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The Band Guestbook, August 2020


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Thank you, BEG. That article on Doug Pringle stirred up some nice memories. CHOM FM was a great station at one time. Wonderful name along with the pioneering spirit. Back when FM radio really mattered and had a lot to do with breaking bands and influencing lives.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Somewhere in Turkey at the moment...

Subject: JQ - Peter Capaldi

JQ - pleased you appreciate Peter Capaldi. The Thick Of It is an amazing series and Peter Capaldi is perfect. He’s modelled on Alastair Campbell - Tony Blair’s director of communications - but is way over the top! His rudeness and creative cursing is breathtaking.

The series aired on mainstream BBC 2 and it’s good to know that the Beeb was in those days happy to insult politicians and their staff without worrying that the government would punish them. It’s not the same now.

Peter Capaldi has a young cousin - Lewis Capaldi, from Glasgow, who is becoming a mega singer songwriter á la Ed Sheeran.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Musician Imagines...Up On Cripple Creek Part 1
Robbie Robertson Part 1

Last 5 Shuffle

Rodney Crowell...Shame On The Moon
Maria McKee...Wheels
Joseph Arthur...In The Sun
Against The Wind...Bob Seger
I'm Into You...Jennifer Lopez featuring Lil Wayne


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Posted by:

Alex

Thanks for getting that link BEG.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

UP ON CRIPPLE CREEK: WHERE, EXACTLY?
6/19/2013

Where the heck is Cripple Creek?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Wild Blueberries

For Alex and Bill M and John D and Kevin J and....

Doug Pringle: The DJ who dropped the needle on CHOM
Pringle played a key role in bringing the free-form FM radio revolution to Montreal. "All I wanted to do was share this incredible music," he recalls.

Brendan Kelly
Montreal Gazette
Aug 28, 2020


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Posted by:

Alex

Location: Pointe-Claire

Bill, if you go to the Montreal Gazette site, you can find a great article about Doug Pringle, who I know that you're acquainted with, as well I would assume John D. Been so long that I have posted on a regular basis, I see that they took the link box out.


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Posted by:

Greg Palkot

With the recent troubles in Lake Charles Louisiana I was of course drawn to think of the Band song set there, Up on Cripple Creek. I google mapped the place and indeed found a Cripple Creek Road there with a very small body of water running parallel. And some homes. Maybe a home one time of "Bessie." I further read the vast amount written about derivations of Cripple Creek, The towns, The songs, The state of mind. Could it not be that Robbie ..and Levon were writing about a real place in Lake Charles? I suppose this theory could be shot down if the we could find out if Cripple Creek Road was a just a real estate developer's way to make some money off of a Band song. The current road and homes look new-ish. Still I would have thought someone would have looked into this angle.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Tying together two great singer-interpreters mentioned here of late, Joe Cocker and Tom Rush, is sandy Konikoff, who was Joe's on the "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" album and tour percussionist, and who was in Tom Rush's group immediately prior to his "Wrong End of the Rainbow" album that b.lee reported listening to. (Good choice!)

My favourite song on the album is "Gnostic Serenade", written by poet and godfather of much of the Canadian folk scene of the '60s, William Hawkins. The song was first recorded by Three's A Crowd, a group founded in Vancouver by Trevor Veitch, Brent Titcomb and Doona Warner. The list of others who passed through the group included David Wiffen, whose "Driving Wheel" was turned into a classic by Tom Rush, and Bruce Cockburn, a couple of whose early original were on the album. Anyway, a lot of Canadian singers, songwriters benefit considerably from the Veitxh-Rush partnership.

I note that the rhythm session on "Wrong End of the Rainbow" was Bob Boucher and Dave Lewis, who played the same role on the first Jesse Winchester LP, on "Dry Your Eyes" and on Bob Carpenter's original version of "Gypsy Boy", which Tom Rush covered on his next album, the standout "Merrimack County". By the way, when Sandy left Ronnie Hawkins in 1965 to join the Hawks on the Dylan tour, Ronnie replaced him with the same Dave Lewis.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Briney Sea

This video is apparently from comments not what it says it is. Not off Cape Horn but off the coast of France. Perhaps where the worlds biggest waves form. The coast of Portugal near where the entire Mediterranean sea pours into the Atlantic thru that little hole and against the wind the sea piles up to over 100 ft. high waves.

This looks real cool tho'. Some of yuz can get sea sick just watching this.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Haul that scurvy dog up the yardarm!!

I'm with you Pat. Do you remember this from Cheech and Chong? Buggery on the high seas. Start listening at 9:12 on this vid.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Fuck them birthdays, Norm.

"All hands on deck, we've run afloat"

I heard the captain cry

"Explore the ship, replace the cook,

let no one leave alive!"


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Don't think twice

Not too many players use steel finger picks to play the guitar this way. This is Billy Strings and as Robbie Robertson does he uses steel finger picks sometimes.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

These days Gray Boy and Midnight come by at around 7:15 daily waiting by the patio doors. I recently found out that they live in the same household. The courtyard is gated and they live in one of the two floor apartments like the one I live in. Their home is easy to remember as there is a canoe displayed against the wall. The restaurant that Corey Joseph and Kawhai had lunch was called Canoe as well. I saw a Toronto blog this morning about Cabbagetown.....Where to eat, drink and be merry. It was a few years old but still the folklore remains......

"It was this hard-knocks version of the neighbourhood that The Band songwriter Robbie Robertson experienced growing up, and helped inform the iconic characters that populate his lyrics. Cabbagetown has become polished yet again, but is still home to the kind of colourful characters that Robertson so wonderfully canonized."

Many thanks to Bill M again who set us all straight that Robbie lived in Riverdale, no Cabbagetown. Bonk lived in Cabbagetown by Riverdale Park/Farm. Yes, the city kidzzz and big kidzzz can see animals in hardcore downtown......more affluent part of Cabbagetown with beautiful Victorian homes. This will be the first time that we won't have our famous Cabbagetown Festival. We also won't be having our Co-Op's yearly yard sale as well because of the Virus.

Bill M again. The other day you mentioned the Parachute Club. I never liked their music but the women's Co-Op I lived in during my undergrad had many gay women and they were very supportive of this group. One of our radio stations had a contest........Yup! Parachute Club won! Another connection is that.....I think their manager or someone they knew just happened to be a friend of one of my brother's at UofW and that's how he got all those catering jobs with the many groups that came through. I think one of the first ones was Alice Cooper.

Norm...Please forgive me.....I also wanted to add in your acrostic birthday message......O for OUTSTANDING SAILOR and MUSICIAN!!!
Next game up for the Canucks! As long as there's another tomorrow. I did not catch the entire game as I was watching some hockey and basketball....really missed not seeing Damian Lillard. I love when someone gives everything they've got and then let the chips fall where they may.......and then I had to watch the end of season of VERA.

Jed...Soon we'll be watching the Raps. Apparently Kyle Lowry will be playing....maybe a cortisone shot? Btw, how come you are so into the Raps?! I thought you'd be a NYC fan, no?

haso...May the best team win today. I cannot talk to you until after the series. ;-D

Kevin....The next time you're at the video store downtown on Bay street.....The beautiful white condos you'll see stand out.....My friend Drake has a home there too. Many moons ago when he lived in a basement apartment with his mom in Forest Hill; I worked at a school at Eglinton and Avenue Road. I only stayed for six months as students were being told that poverty doesn't exist in TO.

I've learned that people will forget what you said
people will forget what you did
but people will never forget how you made them feel.

Maya Angelou


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Old Friends

Thank you Lisa, good to hear from you. Thanks Evangelina, very appropriate.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: HAPPY HEALTHY BIRTHDAY NORM!

Norm's BIRTHDAY today!
Outstanding Band fan
Ready and steady to share country music with GB!
MAGNETIC!\

:-D


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Posted by:

Lisa

Many happy returns, Norm. Cheers!


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Birthdays

Thank you Carl. Having a nice day, sunny finally. Susan's sister Donna and my brother Howie for a steak dinner from our barbecue and a glass of wine makes for a good evening.


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Posted by:

Carl (bonk)

Happy Birthday Norm.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Nights Like This

I haven't racked up any 5 in a row but as well as Jeff Beck I have been listening to some "Willie & The Poor Boys" from the great concerts they did. In particular some Paul Rodgers who I think is one of the great rock and roll vocalists.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

KEVIN J...Sounds like you will have more positive memories than negative ones. I love that you travelled everywhere with your family in Canada.....and twice! Dang! I've been to every province also but not with family...never been to Burton Cummings land or any of our Territories. I guess I travelled more with the people I had relationships as they came from many countries, religions and.....And you had sports and music.........and I'm sure other things that ......Yup people who are well travelled and have a real sense of family.......Of course we have our older brothers in common, eh? While you were listening to MDAE.....I was listening when it came out via of my brother and absolutely loved it!

Will you be watching the Vancouver Canucks with Westcoaster? Huh? Uh, maybe the last five minutes? I will be switching channels between hockey and basketball. I know who will win but I still will see some of it. Some years injuries help a team and some years.....


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Peter Capaldi

PV - I’ve finished with The Thick of It and PC was amazing in that lead role. Is he held in high regard over there? I remembered him as the Danny character in Local Hero and thought he was great in that one; it’s on my personal list of favorite flicks. In a Prime Suspect episode he played a transvestite and, again, I thought it was a remarkable performance. A Iannucci has a new movie coming out, his take on David Copperfield and PC is the Macawber character, likely channeling WC Fields.

Hi Dunc - I believe PC and Iannucci are from your neck of the woods?

Band connection - Malcolm Tucker to Terri: “Take a load off your fucking fanny”.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Last 10 or so

Mostly on disk over headphones while walking or biking over the past few weeks. While working it’s the local Classical radio station.

Currently, Tom Rush - Wrong End of the Rainbow on vinyl . In 1970, you can still get away with covering the relatively unknown James Taylor. James’ Riding on a Railroad and Jesse Winchester’s Biloxi are standouts. I have the songbook for this record somewhere…

Two Rooms, the songs of Elton John & Bernie Taupin – Various Artists. Caught the tail end of the recent Elton biopic the other day. At least the costuming was accurate. All the late ‘80s tribute disk stalwarts are here – Clapton, Sting, Phil Collins, Kate Bush. Love him or hate him, ol’ Reg wrote some good songs, but none are daringly reworked much here. Clapton’s Border Town gives a nod to Our Boys somewhat and might be closest to a revisionist take. Bruce Hornsby lays out a good Deadish Madman Across the Water. You know it’s him before he even opens his mouth. Joe Cocker ably handles Sorry Seems to be the Hardest Word, but Kevin J might not agree. (Really, Kevin, Joe’s Bird is great.) Sinead O’Connor’s Sacrifice the alternately quietly mumbled and belted low point. Odeta Adams (Don’t Let the Sun Go Down on Me) is the sleeper.

Santana - Abraxis. Still fresh and exciting after all these years if you ignore the dated dumb guy lyrics, what few (thankfully) there are. The live bonus tracks point out how essential and perfectly tight the rhythm section and percussionists were. No Sophomore slump here.

Anne Hills & Michael Smith - Paradise Lost & Found. Live duet treatments of mostly Michael’s songs (Spoon River, The Dutchman), a few of Anne’s (Silken Dreams), one from fellow Chicagoan Steve Goodman and the Beatles I Will.

Danko / Fjeld / Andersen. Some good songs here… Driftin’ Away, One More Shot… and a few throwaways, but overall a decent if overall sad record. Maybe its that stab in the heart every time Rick hits one of those “Rickyisms”. But I can’t help feeling this is more of a treading water fun project than a career move.

Tony Rice Sings Gordon Lightfoot. Yes, the consummate new/bluegrass guitarist could sing, quite well, at least early in his career before medical issues silenced him. Tasty selections from Gordo’s catalog, which Tony dipped into at various times previously (Cold on the Shoulder, for instance) gathered here in one 1996 release. Although he does not bring much new to the Edmund Fitzgerald, a quite satisfying collection.

(Larry) Rice, (Tony) Rice, (Chris) Hillman & (Herb) Pederson – Out of the Woodwork (1997), Rice, Rice, Hillman & Pederson (1999), Running Wild (2001). Picked up these three RRH&P titles in package deal a while back. While still quite good, they are frustratingly safe and polished collection of covers, standards and originals, with the base quartet augmented by guests on dobro, fiddle, piano, etc. Keep thinking this “supergroup” would probably be much more fun live without the studio safety net. Tony Rice is all but invisible, sticking mostly to background fills and seldom in the spotlight. Cover highlights include Richard Thompson’s Dimming of the Day, Do Right Woman, Things We Said Today, 4 + 20, Friend of the Devil.

Gary Brewer and the Kentucky Ramblers – Nearing Jordan’s Crossing. Good solid Gospel Bluegrass.

Tish Hinojosa – Sign of the Truth. Great voice, decent original songs in the Mary Chapin Carpenter/Nancy Griffith/Shaun Colvin mold. Sadly never caught the Lilith wave. (I Have No Answers could have been a contender. Then again, Rounder Records was hardly a hit-making machine!)



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Posted by:

Kevin J

Alex.....Interesting link with Once Upon a Time In Hollywood. Like a lot of my music - Mad Dogs was an album my brother had and at a younger age it didn’t really grab me. Of course, I would hear and know about Joe Cocker as I got older ( You’re So Beautiful” being the one always played on FM radio and by Belushi on SNL ) and then he had that remarkable comeback in the 80’s and I purchased some of his music but never went back to Mad Dogs.......and then about 10 years ago at this GB someone mentioned Joe doing The Weight. Anyway, I bought the Mad Dogs Deluxe edition and it is fabulous. Only his “Bird on a Wire” doesn’t work for me but everything else is great, beginning to end. The link to OUAT in Hollywood ? Well, I missed it at the theatre and purchased the DVD. First viewing , I turned it off after 30 minutes. Went back to it a month or two later and loved it. Rare that that happens with a movie for me but it did that one.

BEG....and what a project that would be ! No, my love of travel started with hanging out at airports as a kid waiting for my dad to return from somewhere. Watching planes take off and wondering where everyone was going. Just seemed a so much better way to live than returning to school the next day. By the time I was 10, we had already camped across the country as a family twice visiting every Province. Later, I got to see much of the US and Europe through hockey and school and have tried to figure out a way to wander since.


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Posted by:

Jed

The first thing I did when I got a strat was remove the whammy bar. Never had a clue as to how to use that thing. Pedals,wah wahs,whammies-could never figure out how to use these devices either. Happiness in guitar playing is all in the fingers. And all the sound adjustments one needs can be managed through a decent inexpensive amp. BEG-you make excellent points about NBA. NWC-tune in tonight on YouTube to see Jorma’s quarantine concert #20. The banter and the music are first class


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Jeff Beck's whammy bar - A day in the life

One of the most beautiful pieces of music second only to the Beatles original. After many, many hours of listening I'm convinced Jeff Beck is the most complete guitarist.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Good Morning KEVIN.... :-D

Do you travel because of work or personal explorations of all the women from various countries? ;-D
Rick Danko told us about Bolivia....The two countries my brother had experiences that could have been fatal were in Egypt and Vietnam......He's a history expert, foodie....learned to really cook in Switzerland and sommelier so travelling around the world was like the air he breathed.

Landmark and Ben...Alex Clare is also Jewish. He dated Amy Winehouse. Maybe this song was about her.

Listening mostly to Ray Lamontagne and Justin Townes Earle


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Posted by:

Alex

Location: Pointe-Claire

Ben: Grace Slick is also Jewish, I believe as is David Freiberg. Paul Katner despite his Jewish sounding name was not'

Peter V: Also known as the whammy bar in some circles.

Kevin J: His live version of The Letter has been in my Top 10 since seeing Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Even though the song didn't fit the time frame (Boxtops yes, Cocker no) it sounded great in the sequence it was in.

No last five played as of yet as it was raining and just let the hound run in the yard. I can tell you that I listened to the Beach Boys for ninety minutes during my treatment. They still sound great.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The tremolo arm is really better named a vibrato I think, but I believe Fender used the name tremolo arm and it stuck. British musicians saying whammy bar are trying to sound American. The term was unknown in the days before people started unscrewing them from their Strats.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Last 3:

Joe Cocker - Mad Dogs & Englishmen Deluxe Edition

The Avener - Fade Out Lines

Eddie Money- Eddie Money

......Good Night, BEG......Funny, I was also listening to the Rolling Stones - Black n Blue - album today on a drive and thinking how much they were influenced by the Raggae scene at that time. Has there been a better one-two by anyone to open an album than “Hot-Stuff’ and “Hand of Fate” since then ?


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: High-Stepping Strutters Who Land in the Gutters

Randy Newman sounded better pre-covit for some reason...... and David Bowie sounds better than ever. Escape always wins out. Thank you, Bill M for that link. I think it is a fact that one of the very few but absolutely unique features of being a Canadian of a certain age ( 55-75 ) is knowing stone- stone cold 15-20 Gordon Lightfoot songs. A large part of that might be down to the late great Pierre Juneau ( of which the Canadian Grammy awards “The Juno Awards” are named ) who created “Canadian Content” laws that mandated a set percentage of Canadian music be played on Canadian airways, Ever wonder why so many Canadian artists headed south ? They literally could not get their records played on Canadian radio before such radio stations were forced by law to play local artists! Granted....30% Canadian content as the law dictated was a high bar as introduced in the early 70’s and so those that really were “World Class’ like Lightfoot, Guess Who, Ann Murray were, as a result, granted almost 24/7 play!

Anyhow, if you find yourself in a Bolivian bar late at night with a knife to your throat and your only hope for survival being another Canadian’s ability to immediately recite the lyrics of at least 10 Gordo songs cold - Relax - you’re going home !

Good to see Ben back and Todd - thanks for that Graceland link! He was a bit foggy there but as always there is a light that shines through. That link led me to an interview from Australia in October of 2019 where he is clear eyed, clean cut and straight and it is so great to see. I guess just 3-4 months before the Covid-19 shutdown.......a tough time this shutdown has been for musicians whose livelihoods depended on live shows and in-person lessons.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Thanks & Wiggle Arms

Hey BEG, thanks for the kind words. And by the way, I meant to comment about this the other week, but we also have one of those Himalayan salt lamps. Not sure if there's actually any real health benefit, or if it's just the placebo effect, but they're pretty cool to look at, so there's go to be some sort of benefit there.

Haso, cool that you bought a Larkin Poe shirt. I haven't bought a concert type shirt in years....and most of the shirts that I bought back in the day.....well, they don't quite fit me very well anymore (they must have shrank!) So I passed them down to my college-age daughters, and they enjoy the shirts because they're actually sort of "vintagey" now. One of the benefits of getting older I suppose, all of my hand-me-downs are "seasoned". And they can certainly pull of the concert shirt look better than I can these days!

I do enjoy their music, although I've never seen them live yet. But their talent and joy of making music is very apparent in their informal "tip of the hat" videos that they make, so I appreciate those quite a bit.

Peter V, glad that you enjoyed the Shadows cover by Larkin Poe. Good observation about they way Megan uses the slide to replicate the tremolo from the original. It got me thinking about the various names for tremolo / whammy bar etc.
One time I heard an interview with Paul McCartney, and he was talking about a Bigsby tremolo specifically, and I think he referred to it as a "wiggle arm" which was a new one for me.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Rainy Day Woman

Here's a link to what I think is the "Globe and Mail" article about Cathy Smith that Kevin J referred to. I like that she was also the person that Lightfoot had in mind when he wrote "Rainy Day People" - which are the opposite of 'fair-weather friends'. What was did Dylan in mind when he wrote his Rainy Day Women song?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Friday Fish Fry

KEVIN J...Yes Chris Webber....Oh yeah, very articulate and thoughtful and easy on the brown eyes. Just sayin'. Doc Rivers interview was powerful as well.

"How come we love our country but it doesn't love us?"

Thank you very much for the mantra. I took a Mindfulness Stress Based Meditation program founded by Jon Kabat-Zinn from the University of Massachusetts Medical School...First time work burn out. Second time dealing with grief. Sometimes I also use Online programs like Headspace as well. Since I have been practicing yoga on and off since my teenage years...I brought yoga into the classroom...Hatha, Restorative, Ananda. First time in the nineties one parent took out her son from my classroom as she thought I was teaching Hinduism....She was an Adventist. She detested that we would end every yoga session with a simple OM....I love feeling everyone's collective energy at this time. I told her that I don't even practice my own family's religion and......The cover of Justin Townes Earl's last recording....My family home and everyone in our community had those religious icons around the home. Anyway, I had to provide the child with something to do. Since it wasn't his decision; I told him he could write in his Journal or draw or observe us and report back..... while we were becoming blissful.

WEST COAST GIRL...Just received email. I will reply today. Thank you so much. :-D

JED...Tomorrow hoops will be back. I respect what the players have decided. I would have also respected if they had closed down the playoffs as racism is bigger than basketball. Doesn't matter how wealthy they are, how famous, etc.......You can never change your skin colour and the boyzzzz are especially worried about their children. They've all had the talk.....Comply Comply Comply.


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Posted by:

Bill M

NWC: Good to see you so active! Note that one of Robbie's first groups was the Rhythm Chords, so Bob had he had something else in common.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen. Probably.

Subject: The Golden Chords

Now when Monte Edwardson and Leroy Hoikkala (+ July 2020) are dead, Bob Dylan - or Robert 'Bob' Zimmerman at that time - is the only living member of the high school band 'The Golden Chords' from Hibbing Minnesota.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Jorma and Gettsyburg

Northwestcoaster, I was aware that Jorma was Jewish, but didn't know anything about the Finnish/Russian history. Interesting stuff. I believe that Marty Balin, Jorma's bandmate from the Airplane was also Jewish.

I was in Hershey, Pennsylvania for several days this week. It was a good trip, one day we went to Gettysburg, which was was very interesting. I had the lyrics of Dixie going through my mind the whole day. We took a bus tour and the tour guide said that one of the reasons the Confederate army marched north into Pennsylvania was for food and supplies, which makes Robbie's lyric abut being "hungry, just barely alive" resonate with new meaning to me.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: More about Jorma Kaukonen

'Jorma' is the Finnish form of 'Jeremiah'. - Now I have emptied my skills in Hebrew. I studied Hebrew as a part of Christian theology at University of Helsinki but I quit it after two weeks.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: The same, please.

Subject: Leroy Hoikkala

Leroy Hoikkala played in Bob Dylan's high school band 'Golden Chores'.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen. Probably.

Subject: Thu Aug 7, Jorma Kaukonen by Jed

Thanks JED for mentioning my compatriot JORMA KAUKONEN in this gb. There are many Jews here in this gb and I can tell you that - you may already know this - Jorma has Russian Jewish ancestors from mother's side. This was a common phenomena because Finland was a part of Russia (19th century) and after the October revolution many Jews found a shelter in Finland especially among the Swedish speaking minority. Jorma's family name is another story.

If your passion in life is not fenno-ugric family names so: S-C-R-O-L-L.

- - - - - - - - - -

There are not so many surveys on this because family names which end with "-nen" are not as fine as urban names. These family names are rural names from the Eastern part of Finland - if this was America it would be Appalachians, poor Appalachians. These names simply show that you belong to a clan which have rights to land, creeks and other property in a society where people moved often. KAUKO-NEN means a family who lives far away from the others. My friend NORBERT found this system as pretty much the same as they use in Netherlands with "Van". (Btw where are you?!) Names of animals like wolf, bear, fox and birds were common, too. It is a vital part of your identity. I actually used the family name from mother's side 'Woodlark' in gb in early days.

In western part of Finland the family names ended with "-la". I have one favourite in rock music, LEROY HOIKKALA. Leroy - who??? I give you a few minutes to figure this out. Then I'll post it here. If you knew the right answer I'll buy you a beer. Go to the nearest pub and say that NortWestCoaster pays it, probably...


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Posted by:

Kevin J

“Sundown” Muse Who Injected John Belushi” is how almost all her headlines read.....The Globe and Mail actually provides a fair account of things and The Band boys get lower profile billing which is probably how it always will be should be in this case.....though I couldn’t help thinking about her age 73 and that connection..... Gordon Lightfoot was classy in his remembrance. She certainly inspired a couple of great songs...... That anecdote of hers - I think in her book - about how Robbie was really tender in how he tried to encourage Richard and help him through some of the down times had always stuck with me.

“I can picture every move that a man could make/ Getting lost in her lovin' is your first mistake”


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: lp

Todd: yeah, I echo our friend beg/angelina. And definitely good link for Megan and Rebeccah. Was enough to get me to order a t-shirt of theirs, not normally something I do unless actually at a concert. Of course when that would be again, is strictly guesswork. If you haven't noticed before, Norm and I have been beating the drum for Poe since way before they were included in Robbie's episode of Playing for Change. I can never get enough of their cover of Son House's Preachin' Man Blues and enjoy quite a few of the Tip o' the Hat series, although unfortunately stuff like AC/DC is still lost on me. If you haven't seen it, there's a nice YouTube live of them covering Ophelia, backed by Letterman's old band.


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Posted by:

Bonk

Subject: Cathy Smith

Apparently Cathy has passed away in Maple Ridge BC at the age of 73. Hopefully she now finds peace.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: They’re back

NBA will possibly resume playing on Friday and for certain this weekend. Glad to hear that.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I am on the run but a few things...

Pat B...thank you! and Dag B....what a site you have put together. I have to split in 20 minutes and I just spent 30 minutes getting lost in some of that Band detail heaven you have assembled.

BEG.....Om Namah Shivaya......and thank you. I learned how to properly meditate in the 80’s while spending time in Bali. Even the simplest practices of breathing or chanting for anyone is recommended and can improve life and in many cases save lives. For anyone out there struggling - give it a try.

Watched an interview with former NBA star Chris Weber last night. A beautiful thoughtful guy....nice to see. Meanwhile Tiger Woods is no doubt in the process off clearing his schedule for a game of golf with the President.....what a contrast. Some people develop as life moves forward - some never do.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Recording Contracts Explained
A Guide To Contract Terms (Written By An Entertainment Lawyer)
Industry Talk
Richard Salmon

DAG...Researcher extraordinaire. Many thanks for everything you find and contribute to this site. :-D

Quote of the month displayed at my Chiro's office.

How people treat you is their karma.
How you react is yours.

Wayne Dyer


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Mask Water Music Shades

TODD...Thank you very much for just being you in this GB. I have always appreciated the time you share with us here. :-D

JED...Hey, I was wondering what's been up with you. Yeah, I would really miss the game.......It's strange that I watched basketball at the some time I watched hockey as a child and yet there's something about it that strikes a match in me.

I've linked Getting to Know Rick Danko (Through Notebook Doodles) in case some of you missed it before. I have to keep pulling out everything that is just sheer beauty and love to share with others here.

This morning I went into a store and while I was waiting to be served I took out one of my earbuds so I could be more aware....It's my version of Steph Curry's annoying act of taking out his mouthguard and having it hang out. It bothered me so much when his team was playing with Lebron's team one year that I was cheering for Lebron's team. I have to cheer for a team or I'm not invested in the game. So I guess my music was a little loud in the store....lol....I love Robert Cray's Pardon. Everytime I listen to it I fantasize that I'm playing guitar and Levon is always playing drums. I know, I know......So this very young guy comments on how he likes Robert Cray as well. Well, that's all it took.....lol....Then I started blah, blah, blahing about him as I've seen him a few times and how he never performs my faves......The other one being I Wonder......and somehow our conversation turns to how he's met Sade as he worked at one time.......Shoot.....Cannot recall......However, I was so impressed that this very young guy........I was a cougar once.......South American.....but this guy was really young and yet he was so into music and appreciated the artists that I did as well. I just walked out smiling.....smiling.....smiling.

Last weekend similar interaction around music happened as well in a vintage/used clothing store that I like to check out in the west end but there is also one in the east end and one in a former hood......The Annex. I saw this very young guy wearing a Bob Marley t-shirt and I told him that I liked his shirt. The associate in the store heard me and then started talking to me about music. I always ask if someone has heard about The Band. I was shocked but she knew them! When she mentioned Bowie and many others and I told her that I saw all of them perform she was so mesmerized. Yup....Sometimes being of a certain vintage as Bumbles used to say......certainly has some advantages........When I was about to check out......She said write down some artists for me to check out.........She had never heard of New Wave and some of the current artists who I am listening to who are in their thirties and forties as she knew about the musicians I saw in the seventies and eighties and......I forgot to mention Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival........Next time!


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Jorma Kaukonen/the NBA

Whether in the Airplane,Hot Tuna,solo,acoustic or electric Jorma is unique. His fluid melting electric guitar and his skill fingerpicking is a wonder to behold. Everything he plays has a unique feel to it. It’s old,in fact very old sounding while being crisp and new. His ability to hold back and then to stun you with what he’s playing is special. It makes total sense that he and Rick loved playing together during the years Jorma lived in Woodstock. They each mastered the art of silent notes-leaving space for complete sound. The last night at Uncle Willy’s in Kingston was a good example of their versatility. BEG-I understand why the NBA players wouldn’t want to play. But I’m sad about the situation. Hoops provided a very necessary escape from the pandemic each day. The game will be seriously missed. I hope they play. I know it’s selfish of me.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Apache

What a fascinating cover. I do miss the bass guitar, but she does a brilliant job on slide guitar replacing Hank Marvin's tremelo arm (whammy bar).


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: Facebook group

Welcome, bienvenue, willkommen.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Larkin Poe - Shadows Cover

My apologies if I've previously posted this, but here is a lovely version of Hank Marvin and the Shadows 'Apache' as performed by the gals from Larkin Poe. It really is quite nice.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Latest Five

The Band - Rock Of Ages - Vinyl (2015 Capitol Box Set)

The Beatles - Abbey Road - Vinyl (Apple Records Early 1970's pressing)

The Beatles - Rubber Soul - Vinyl (Capitol Records Purple label late 1970's pressing)

The Beach Boys - 20 Good Vibrations - (Mono singles versions on Capitol CD 1999 release)

Billie Holiday - From The Original Decca Masters - (Remastered by Steve Hoffman 1986 MCA CD)


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Bruce Springsteen

I've been listening to a lot of Bruce Springsteen recently and have a lot more appreciation for him now, than I did when I was younger. When I was coming of age musically, Bruce Springsteen had already become very successful playing arenas and stadiums, and a lot of his hit songs were kind of on the radio constantly. So I sort of took him for granted and for some reason didn't always hold him quite in the same regard as artists like Dylan & The Band etc.
But as I explored his earlier albums and looked at his work through the lens of an artist struggling to become successful and working very hard at it, rather than a mega successful MTV and arena rocker, I've grown in my appreciation of his talent.

There's a fantastic performance from him that most are probably familiar with from 1975 at the Hammersmith Odeon. It was his first time playing in England, Born to Run had recently been released, and he still had a lot to prove. The entire show is quite good, and in particular, I like the stripped down version of 'Thunder Road'. Like Justin Townes Earle's interpretation of Graceland, the stripped down arrangement really allows the lyrics their due prominence.
This line alone from 'Thunder Road' says so much, and really highlights what a great artist Bruce is.

"There were ghosts in the eyes of all the boys you sent away"

So economical and powerful.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Justin Townes Earle - ' Graceland'

This may already be familiar to some folks here, but I recently heard this performance of Justin Townes Earle doing a cover of Paul Simon's 'Graceland'. Check it out at the link above if so inclined. It really is a masterful vocal interpretation.

"She comes back to tell me she's gone
As if I didn't know that
As if I didn't know my own bed
As if I'd never noticed
The way she brushed her hair from her forehead"

His handling of those lyrics really grabbed my attention, and I suppose I always noticed it in Paul Simon's original version, but it really seems to have extra resonance here. Sad but beautiful.



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Posted by:

Rod

Yes, that WB contract raises all sorts of interesting questions - the biggest one being why didn't they see it through? How many albums did TLW vinyl release count for? Three discs is quite a lot.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi KEVIN. Yes I forgive you for not being a basketball fan. I hope you're cheering for the Vancouver Canucks or........I'm not an American football fan even though out of all the sports my brother tackled....He chose this sport not our father's sport of soccer. So our mother's favourite sport was soccer of course and then hockey and then every other sport. I am feeling a lot of anger this week. I tried to push it down with the wrong foods as I don't drink much or do drugs anymore but too much is triggering me. First it was the death of Justin Townes Earle......I love his songwriting as he's so honest, raw, insightful......his voice.....I've dealt with depression as well but since I don't have a substance abuse problem I somehow made it through but the last time I was very aware that I might not. We're living in a Pandemic and I'm not in the least depressed and yet so many of my friends are drinking more......buying frivolously more.....posting more...... ;-D Justin was so young.....He has a daughter......He does have a partner but I can tell you when you're in a bad state all that doesn't matter. It can help but......It's weird that no one in my family ever swore in our household....not Grandpa and not my brother.....My mom occasionally would say shit and chuckle to herself. Grandma was in her own world as three of her children passed at very early ages including my own father so she just smiled and.....wow.....She always called me sweetness in her language. Just one word like the can mean so much to a child. Did Justin not hear any sweet words about himself? Does it even matter when you have a disease? Why can some recover with help and others cannot?He was a very special singer-songwriter. And......He told the truth! He did not shy away from talking about his addictions.......Oh......I just.......Since University I have developed a foul mouth when I am really angry and don't apologize for it. With that Clown.....and the absolute senseless violence of black people......What if I was black? What if you were black? It's by fluke who we are, right? I have some privilege as a white person but I'm also a woman so it becomes more complicated for me as I have to deal with men who objective me or think they can abuse me or...........I don't really know why as racism is learned; we are not born with this......I am very different from my family members and many of my relatives. My brother wasn't born here either but he was an infant so that doesn't count. He's very we'll travelled so he's seen a lot but still; I am the more progressive one. I really don't know why but it's who I am and will continue to be. And yes Kevin......The NBA is probably the most progressive sport right now. And I am so fortunate that it is my favourite sport. During my difficult time it was the only thing that brought some joy. I knew alcohol and other drugs would just exacerbate everything......I feel such immense sadness and anger as well to Steve Earle and his family and all of Justin Townes Earl fans......He made a difference to my life.......He made a difference. Thanks for listening Kevin. And in return.....You know when I said that the sexiest part of a man is his mind. Yes, that's how I feel.......add his humour.......and if you have both.....wow, wow, wow.......I always told my students that it's not enough to be told someone loves you. You have to feeeeeel that love. I better go meditate......


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Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, dated April 25, 1977.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Kevin J, Dag's FB page is fantastic. He continually posts new finds and he links active documents that he's compiling, which includes a Band history of 1977 that contains the contract. 6 albums besides TLW release.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Pat B’s post....

Not sure where the Dag B post/attachment is. I do know Dag made mention of a Facebook page dedicated to the Band in the past but not sure where to go to find the contract information.

BEG.....I am not a big basketball fan but do very much respect many of this current crop of players and league management ( the commissioner in particular ) for their willingness to take stands - especially the Golden State guys and Lebron James and the Raptor players for not going to the Whitehouse after championships to take part in that silly tradition of giving the President a photo-op.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Beat Girl

The 60s retrospectives continue with BEAT GIRL from 1960 (aka Wild for Kicks in the USA). This was said to be the first all-British film with a full-length soundtrack LP, by John Barry with Adam Faith and Shirley Anne Field. The star is Gillian Hills as the truculent sultry teenager in the world of coffee bars and strip clubs in Soho … a surprisingly edgy place in 1960. It’s an early Swinging Sixties London film in effect with a cameo from Oliver Reed. Adam Faith was a major pop star at the time.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Three NBA playoff games postponed as players protest social injustice

"The Bucks franchise has had multiple incidents with police brutality and racial profiling in recent years. Bucks guard Sterling Brown sued the city of Milwaukee after he was injured during an incident with police, and former center John Henson spoke out publicly after he was denied service by a Milwaukee jeweller.

Bucks guard George Hill was among multiple NBA players to question whether games should continue in light of ongoing social justice protests around the country. Hill said Monday that NBA players “shouldn’t have even came to this damn place, to be honest” because playing in the bubble “took all the focal points off what the issues are."

A former poster who lives in Europe told me when we met here that even though her family came from a more affluent background the fact that she was not of the same religion as the rest of the country she was marginalized all the time. The Greek Freak also endured this in the same country because of class and race. His parents were astute to give all the children Greek names but you cannot change your skin colour and this is why racism is so........I do not feel hopeful during my lifetime that racism can be eradicated as it can be so insidious. All of a sudden Greece wants to claim him now. Anyway, Masai says nooooooo! He is not Greek. He is a Nigerian! I am not even black and I am so fucking tired of this shit mentality!!!!!!

”The problem with entitlement is that you don't know when you are wrong.
brown eyed angelina


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Posted by:

Pat B

Dag B's publication of The Band's 6 album deal with WB is quite enlightening. It mortally undercuts all the grousing about how inimical the Band's business had become for certain members since they were more than happy to continue it into the future.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

From the What’s New section of this GB....

An interview was published in a Dutch newspaper in connection with the cinematic premiere in Europe of Once Were Brothers: The Story of Robbie Robertson and The Band. A few quotes from the article translated by Imar K:

*"[Levon Helm and myself] never really reconciled. But I visited him when he was sick. When I arrived, he was already unconscious."

*"I know they tried, twice, with a whole film crew to get [Garth Hudson] to give his side of the story, but his health wouldn't allow it. You have to maintain some respect for a person, otherwise it wouldn't accurately portray him."

*If not for corona, then [Robertson and Martin Scorsese] would now have been finishing Killers of the Flower Moon, Scorcese's most recent movie.

* The second part of [Robertson's] autobiography... should be done at the end of this year.

*[Robertson] will have a Zoom meeting with a scenario writer about a future film on The Band. "No documentary but drama. I really hope I get to see its release."


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rolling Along

It seems that the Vancouver Canucks may be the real deal this time. Knocking off the Golden Knights 5 - 2 in the Knights own "Hood" in the first game of their series is a wakeup call isn't it BEG?? They controlled the game for the most part.

What does this have to do with music you say?? Well I'm singing their praises while you guys discuss some crazy concert that happened way in the last century. You might as well be discussing Shakespeare :-)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Cool Cabbagetown
Web: My link

Hamilton, Ontario's Arkells....
Btw, Toronto Raptor Coach Nick Nurse has also performed with them on stage.

You use a glass mirror to see your face; you use works of art to see your soul.

George Bernard Shaw


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Levon Helm Marker with Anna Lee Amsden


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Listening to When I Go Away Levon and Dixie Hummingbirds
Web: My link

The Band Concerts


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wembley 1974

I have the programme:

Jesse Colin Young 12 - 1 pm

The Band 1.30 - 3.30 pm

Tom Scott & The LA Express & Joni Mitchell 4 - 6 pm

CSNY - 6.30- 10 pm

I recall Tom Scott's solo set before Joni was quite long and a highlight. The Band clearly didn't get near the billed two hours. It was bright and sunny. I have absolutely zero recall of Jesse Colin Young, except that during his set the stadium was filling, people taking seats and milling around. He was mostly ignored, I'd say.

The 30 minute changeovers indicate they hadn't got the Live Aid common PA and amps thing worked out. As the video shows, the Band meander on and fart about with getting noises and adjusting controls. Even four years earlier, the roadies went on and got a level on every instrument and everyone had tuned off stage, so when the group hit the stage there was a degree of impact. Note that this was early- and Robbie had done a session with Neil Young in a studio several miles away and had to get back- traffic jams around Wembley were horrendous, but I assume they had a back route.

Jake Xerxes Fussell - he'd be daft to book a tour. Venues are still not fully open, and I wouldn't go myself, expecting a second spike in the autumn. A few people have played outdoors, but I'd guess he's still at the crowded shoulder to shoulder venue level indoors, rather than (say) a spaced 2 metre distance large concert hall. A pity, I'd love to see him. But then I'd love to see the Royal Shakespeare Company in Stratford and have had eight cancelled shows so far.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: wembley

Thanks, Jan. This linked Wembley, while dicey yet, much improved over anything I've seen of this on YouTube before. Only reasonable record of the event before was the very beginning as released on "A Musical History" box set, seems to me.

2 questions, one perhaps answered further down in the gb. A) this would have been after the Tour 74 w/ BD, right? That was Spring and Summer if memory serves (only time I ever saw them, live). B) Didn't our commissioner (Peter V) once say that this was the 1st time he saw them... at Wembley?

As to how long they played, I'll posit that they never really were that into the live gigs; I mean it's not as if they were the Dead, Allman Bros or (later) Phish or Charlie Daniels. Some groups just seemed to live to play live. And as far as that goes, I imagine for musicians fussy about their sound... is anything worse (other than say WG or Woodstock) than a football/either version stadium or baseball park for a concert? When a symphony sells a concert, this is certainly not what they mean, that's for sure.

Still it's nice to see RM in decent voice and engaged.

Just curious, where were they on the bill? In btw Jesse and Joni, I'm guessing. From the "bounce", Rick seems pretty into it, as well.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Jake X Fussell

PV - I see he has UK tour starting next week. Do you go out for shows?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

OOOps! First it's LET'S GO CANUCKS!!!!!

For those who don't dig sports at this time of year here's......

The Band Plays Barton Hall At Cornell University In 1974
Mar 2, 2018
Scott Bernstein

Setlist Set: Instrumental, Just Another Whistle Stop, Stage Fright, The Weight, The Shape I’m In, Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever, The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, Across The Great Divide

"Maybe that's enlightenment enough: to know that there is no final resting place of the mind, no moment of smug clarity. Perhaps wisdom ... is realizing how small I am, and unwise, and how far I have yet to go."

Anthony Bourdain


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Chocolate Peanut Butter Ice-Cream

"Skills can be taught. Character you either have or you don't have."
Anthony Bourdain

KEVIN J... :-D

"Rick Danko sings and plays with a broken wrist at London’s Wembley Stadium in September 1974."

Cheering for Luka Doncic and the Mavericks tonight.


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Kevin J

Wembley......A bit of an odd review from that guy, BEG as it was Rick that was particularly off on the day - not Richard. As to the rest on the absurdity of taking 5 minutes between each song to dry off, clean glasses, tune up, talk , laugh with all the folks at the side of the stage that Rick was doing throughout, he was right. I would have left within 15 minutes. Where would I have gone though !

I really did enjoy that very tasty guitar Robbie added to White Lines.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I went along as a Band devotee but saw the whole concert.The stage was definitely behind where one of the goals would have been; I think, not sure, at the end where the players came out onto the pitch.

Where I was sitting, in the stand to one side, the sound/acoustics were awful. Jesse Colin Young didn't make much impact on me.

Then my heroes came on. Once introduced The Band spent an age tuning up before launching into their first number. Can't help thinking, that they were simply using up time without playing. They were down to play for two hours but, including their encore, only managed a little over an hour I think. I was disappointed at the time and didn't know why they had delivered so little but I suspect I know now. If you read Levon Helm's autobiography and Barney Hoskyns' book on The Band you'll realise that Richard Manuel must have been in a bad way about this time. The Band had backed Dylan on his enormous 'come back' tour earlier in the year and just listen to his voice on the live recoding of 'I Shall be Released' from that tour - the instrumental playing is gorgeous, especially Garth's organ and Danko's bass but his voice has gone completely. If you listen to his singing on 'Just Another Whistle Stop' and 'Chest Fever,' from this concert, which have been released on The Band: A Musical History, then you'll realise how poor his contribution was. Sitting there in thrall to my heroes I didn't spot it then but now I can see and hear that he cannot hold several notes and his basic technique of even keeping his mouth to the microphone was lacking.

One thing I did notice at the time was that from quite early on in the set Robertson and Helm were talking to one another inbetween songs. I suspect that they were working out how many songs they could get out of Manuel. Luckily for The Band they had three lead singers so they can share the work around to some extent but there are great songs in their repertoire such as King Harvest, Whispering Pines, Rocking Chair, In A Station, Tears of Rage, Sleeping, which do not feature in this concert and a reasonable guess is that that is because Manuel sings the lead on them all (and other songs solo and yet more jointly with his Bandmates) and they feared he wouldn't be able to deliver them. Very sad.

The exclusion of those songs, and others, meant that the instrument swopping for which they were famous never happened. Manuel never played drums (as he would have on Rag Mama Rag if they'd performed it); Helm never came out from the drums to play second guitar or mandolin; Danko never played fiddle. Hudson did step out to play sax on two songs but not accordian. Even as I sat there, honestly, I got the impression that they were doing the minimum necessary to meet their contractual obligations and then get away. From memory, 'Mystery Train' was performed as a four piece with Manuel off stage (he probably needed the break) and when they performed 'The Weight' live Hudson and Manuel usually swop places as Hudson's piano playing is the centre piece of the song, well they didn't bother to swop at Wembley.

I think the crowd, including me I'm sorry to say, wanted them to come back for a second encore but they didn't and someone said from the stage that the concert was running behind and Tom Scott et.al. had to set up so time was pressing...Now I reckon they thought they'd done enough to get paid and had to split - and perhaps Manuel's health meant that they needed to go as well."

Crosby Stills Nash and Young
Joni Mitchell
with
Tom Scott and the L.A Express
The Band
Jesse Colin Young.
Wembley Stadium , London.
9-14-74

Some may come and some may go
S/He will surely pass
When the one that left us here
Returns for us at last
We are but a moment's sunlight
Fading in the grass

Come on people now
Smile on your brother/sister
Everybody get together
Try to love one another right now


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wembley

I watched a few bits. Did they ever do The Weight that fast before or later? Rick's bass part was different too.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Sweltering Humidity and Heat
Web: My link

Subject: Margherita Pizza

Featuring Rick Danko
Home Bass

Live Small Town Magazine
Spring 2018
March 26, 2018

"Live Small Town magazine promotes all the unique experiences, places and people that small towns offer throughout Brantford, County of Brant, Norfolk County, Six Nations of the Grand, New Credit, Oxford County, Haldimand County and the villages around Hamilton. We encourage day tripping, weekend stays, relocation and investment. Highlighting unique shopping, desirable restaurants, quaint atmospheres, breathtaking scenery and much more throughout the pages of our magazine and social media platforms. "


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Memphis magazine
A Lifetime With Levon
Anne Cunningham O’Neill

"Everyone loved Levon, worshipped him really, including all his teachers and schoolmates at the local school. He was very handsome in an all-American way with his blonde slicked-down hair and starched and ironed jeans, and he always dated the prettiest girls — one after the other. He could do no wrong even though he “was always cutting up in class” and pulling jokes on people. Mary says she was forever “trying to make him do right.”

He was no student; getting a “C for him was like getting an A for most people.” Voted “Most Popular” and most everything else, Levon jokingly wondered (ironically in hindsight) why he wasn’t chosen “most likely to succeed.” He was always kind, though, and could laugh at himself.

He loved being on the road and the stories were endless. When speaking of movie sets in particular, he recollected he would have liked bigger trailers so more people could have gathered together and laughed into the night. He loved to eat with a passion, especially Southern cooking washed down with copious amounts of Coke, though he always remained rail thin. After his gigs he loved nothing better than having people back to his room bringing home-cooked food, with Mary furnishing his favorite mandarin orange cake whenever he was in the Memphis area. He and his nearest and dearest would regale themselves with an endless repertoire of funny stories, and according to Philip Vaiden, Mary’s husband, they told the same ones over and over and over again.

A favorite childhood tale was the time when the Helms and Cavettes took cover in the shared storm cellar their Dads had dug. They were in and out of that cellar many times over the years for false alarms, until one day a real live cyclone came roaring down the Delta. All ten of them stayed three days, until finally Arlena got fed up and said, “We are leaving this cellar and never coming back!” She kept her word, because they never did.

Levon’s life was his own. He got the most from every day and he was fun, often frivolous, and could be exasperating because he did exactly what he wanted and didn’t take things seriously. In fact, according to Mary, Levon Helm “gave new meaning to the term happy-go-lucky,” but at the same time he was genuine and intensely loyal."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I'll Be You


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Wembley

Hi Kevin J - I think you’re right about how this stuff opened the door for punk and new wave. Some artists are just better suited to be heard on recordings or in smaller venues.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: JTE

Sad to hear of the passing of Justin Townes Earle. Agree with you Kevin on the greatness of 'Can't Hardly Wait' by The Replacements, which Justin Townes Earle did a fine cover version of. Just listened to 'Harlem River Blues' which he did on the Letterman show some years back. Simply solid songwriting and performance. RIP.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I'll admit I'm lonely
And need someone to hold me
Just to sleep at night
But I'd rather be alone
Rather wake up on my own
Come morning time
The days pass so slowly and it never fades
Evening comes, I'm looking for somebody else
These are things I say only when I'm talking to myself

Despite my best efforts to try and learn to forgive
I find me haunted by the ghosts of all those that I just can't forget
And I know better than to think that it can be fixed
Best that I can do is just to learn to live with this
I'm in a lot of pain and I need some help
I don't dare tell nobody else
These are things I say only when I'm talking to myself

I rarely go out, and when I go
I always hope I don't see anyone I know
'Cause the drinks bring no joy to me, I just can't remember when
All the drugs begin to fail me,
Left me only with a lonely child to fend
I tried to love and I failed
I've put my heart on a shelf
These are things I say only when I'm talking to myself

Justin Townes Earle - Talking To Myself lyrics |


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brown eyed girl

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"We threw a curve ball at Justin Townes Earle. Despite his five albums full of well-loved songs, we asked him to play new material for this Tiny Desk Concert; songs we hadn't yet heard. Earle's new album Single Mothers comes out this week, and here he performs two tracks from that record: "White Gardenias," his nod to Billie Holiday, and "Burning Pictures."Based in Nashville, Earle is a strong lyricist with a father, Steve Earle, who similarly finds strength in perfectly crafted words."--BOB BOILEN

Set List:
"Burning Pictures"
"When The One You Love Loses Faith In You"
"White Gardenias"

Justin Townes Earle: NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert


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Kevin J

Justin Townes Earle’s story is sad in so many ways......I can immediately connect with anyone who loved the Replacements “Can’t Hardly Wait” in the way he did. My favourite song in the last 30 years. He felt the desperate beauty in that composition and managed to write some lovely words in some songs of his own and yet, you just knew he somehow wouldn’t see this life schedule through to the end. A bad stretch we are in.......sincere condolences to his family and loved ones.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sincerest condolences to the Earle Family and to those who knew Justin Townes Earle - "Ahi Esta Mi Nina" [Audio Only]

'Cause there's so much that I want to say to you
So much of which would just do no good
Like I will never ask you to forgive me
'Cause Darling, I just don't think that you should

'Cause you're the only good I've ever done with my life
And I've never done right by you
Might feel as though I owe you an explanation
I think that you already know the truth


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Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Shocked to see the sad news this morning that Justin Townes Earle has died. No word on cause of death.


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Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: White Line (duet version)

White Line. Fabulous Robbie guitar part.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Wembley

I haven't yet watched the video, as my frantic dancing is not a pleasant sight at the best of times. How can you remember an afternoon that long ago? I do recall that Tom Scott & The LA Express sounded way better than anyone else (in sonic quality terms) thus Joni sounded very good. Mrs V's intense dislike of Neil Young started in his solo set which I also remember as excruciatingly bad. Teeth on edge stuff. Graham Nash was on vastly better form solo that any of the other three which was a surprise. I was just so thrilled to see The Band that I couldn't be objective.

Don't forget, White Line … just Neil and Robbie, is on Neil Young's very good 1975 reissue, "Homegrown." Recorded on the morning of the show. Before Neil actually got into the white lines in the afternoon, I should think. CSNY all looked and sounded wasted except for Graham Nash, who probably was but it didn't show.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Wembley

I've only watched the Wembley concert in bits as the video quality is annoying. I thought it was a good show though. Especially enjoyed Mystery Train as they didn't do that one often. From memory Garths playing was inspired. Must watch it again soon.


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Kevin J

A few final thoughts on watching that debacle at Wembley.....Thank goodness for Robbie and Marty as without The Last Waltz, I am certain I never would have met any of you ! Just shocking that this is the same band that sparkled so brightly on the Band/Dylan tour earlier that same year. I almost thought it impossible before seeing this afternoon money grab that Rick Danko could ever sing “Stage Fright” without feeling.

2 hours of that and then Joni and CSN&Y for another 6 hours....Yikes....No wonder Peter V was dancing......rock n roll torture without a jig or a grab from Rick’s bag......Punk Rock was born that afternoon. That’s a certainty...Was there any other choice ?


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Kevin J

Watching The Band at Wembley drives home that The Ramones got one thing right - absolutely right - no matter what else is going right or wrong at a show - Never fu*k around between songs. Go straight to the next song !

Anyone else notice CCR was playing in the stadium before the Band took the stage? Not a surprise as they are always playing everywhere. Quite amazing how just about every restaurant, bar, dive, dancehall, I have been at over the last many decades of travel all over the world, CCR is playing...always. Not even close with any other band or performer. And John Fogerty doesn’t get a cent from any of it.

Yes, BEG. At least in Carey Prices’s case, he does have a gold medal at the Olympics, the world championships and the World Cup of hockey but like McDavid, he’s never had a really good team around him in the NHL.


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brown eyed girl

Location: Raptor Country
Web: My link

Robbie Robertson and his improbable rise to stardom
The legendary guitarist and songwriter of The Band reminisces in this ‘Letter to My Younger Self’

Jane Graham
8 Feb 2020
Street Roots Portland, Oregon's award-winning weekly street newspaper
FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD FREE SPEECH

Robbie Robertson, perhaps best known as musician in The Band, reflects on his younger self in this series for The Big Issue, Street Roots’ sister paper in the United Kingdom.

"Martin Scorsese and I have a completely unique working relationship and friendship (Robertson worked on the score for many Scorsese movies including Raging Bull, King of Comedy and The Irishman). We’re on the same wavelength. A lot of people in our age group run out of ideas, but we’re just getting our groove on. We were talking about this today, the next movie that we’re working on, an American-Indian story based on the book Killers of the Flower Moon. My friendship with Martin is an ongoing thing and I hope it never ends.

If I could have one last conversation with anybody, it would be with my father. He got killed before I was born. (Robertson was 12 when he found out his real father was professional gambler Alexander Klegerman, who died in a hit-and-run accident in 1943.) Everybody has told me that he was a fantastic character. And I’ve lived all my life with the idea that I missed out on that. When I found out about him I was, in my own way, in shock. But it was when I learned (that) I can’t show it. I’ve just got to not let life freak me out. I knew what my calling was and I knew I was going to have to be tough inside."

Did you notice Robbie talks like me again?.....on the same wavelength....getting our groove on.....In another article it was.....If you get or catch my drift......We did have water by the Grand River that didn't taste like chlorine....Maybe it's the water!

Congrats to the Toronto Raptor Coach Nick Nurse...Coach of the Year! Bravo!

"If I'm an advocate for anything, it's to move. As far as you can, as much as you can. Across the ocean, or simply across the river. Walk in someone else's shoes or at least eat their food. It's a plus for everybody."

Anthony Bourdain


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Birthday Robbie Robertson: The Band Plays Live At Wembley In 1974
Jul 5, 2020
JAMBASE
Nate Todd

Better late than never.....
"To celebrate Robbie Robertson’s 77th birthday, watch The Band’s entire set from Wembley in ‘74 below via Vilson Sá for this edition of Sunday Cinema."

KEVIN J...Maybe this Concert will cheer you up? I sent as many positive and encouraging arrows as I could deliver. I bet Carey Price feels like Connor McDavid at times.... :-(


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Pat B

Wembley. Garth on organ on The Weight gives it an entirely different feel. Levon does some fantastic vocal changes on Dixie which evidently had a lot of technical difficulties. Peter V's dancing is still a wonder to behold. Richard sounds great on ISBR. Smoke Signal absolutely burns. Garth's CF intro has a lot of distortion in places but the genius shines through.


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Posted by:

Alex

Location: Pointe-Claire

Bill, we have been here for 2 years. Previous to that, we were in St-Laurent which is a centrally located neighbourhood, no further than 15 minutes from everywhere. Before that, in the downtown-Westmount area, no too far from where we met up. We downsized the house but increased our land.

Last night was the first night that we went out for supper with friends, at a proper restaurant since the pandemic started. It was a nice night to spend outside although I could have done without the traffic noise. Good food and company, can't beat that.


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Bill M

Imar K: Sounds interesting. Thanks for doing the translation. I think you should reach out to our webmaster and site owner Jan Hoiberg by clicking the 'webmaster' link salted through this site.

Alex: have you been in Pointe Claire all along? I spent a couple hours on Thursday with a friend from PC who moved to Toronto with his neighbourhood band in the early '70s. Theodore's Smokeshop, which had evolved from Attic Dust. My friend gave it up and joined the civil service. In later years he did get back to music as a sideline, forming an instrumental jazz trio that turned out a nice exploration of "The Weight". The drummer from the old PC band stayed in music and led Parachute Club to considerable success in the '80s. /n Re Todd Rundgren, I've always loved "We've Got To Get You A Woman", since way before I ever heard "Lonesome Suzie". Their wistful closing lines remind me of each other: "And when we're through with you / We'll get me one too" versus "Why don't we get together / What else can we do"?

Saw live music today, for the first time since March. Essentially neighbourhood karaoke in a park, but sooo nice to be part of. (The vibe, that is, not the singing. Nosiree.)


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Bill M

NWC: Playing the victim is better than being the victim, but is not always the best choice given the propensity of life to imitate art. But that's just me.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Vancouver Canucks

Last Canadian team left standing. The Canucks knocked off the defending Stanley cup champions (St Louis had a few regulars out with injury) still the Canucks look like a hungry group of young guys who believe in each other. Las Vegas is beatable.


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Alex

Location: Pointe-Claire

Good morning all, a lovely day to be out and about here. Walked the hound. Watered the flower and vegetable gardens at stately Landmark manor. Fed the hound and am about to partake in coffee and homemade muffins before starting to handicap today's racing cards at Saratoga and Woodbine.

BEG: No one has ever called me Sasha. A couple have tried Alexander but I never answered, thus Alex it is, was, and always shall be.

Ah Kevin. While you have rotten taste rooting for the Canadiens, you did redeem yourself by choosing Hot Rocks for your listening pleasure. My choice for the day was the Todd Rundgren channel on my Ipod. Today's tunes were:

1) We've Got To Get You A Woman

2) Wolfman Jack

3) Just One Victory

4) Zen Archer 5) You Left Me Sore

Have a great weekend everyone. I may be lurking so behave.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Sex and drugs and rock'n'roll . . . well not sex because we are retired.

The reason I sympathize/hate Mr Manuel, Mr Danko and Mr Helm: alcohol and drug abuse destroyed The Band and their life and Mr. Robertson was not too shy to take the advantage of this. I feel sorry for the kids, though, mainly because my parents died in abuse of pills and boose. (Before I continue I can hear my gb friend Bill M say: "Don't play a role of a victim!").

I try to joke about alcohol and drugs in this gb and in my real life - but no one laughs. My wife's women magazine (which I secretly read) says that it is only a survival strategy... hmmm. Allright, I survived.

Cheers!


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Posted by:

Fred

Kevin: Over the years, when reading Mr. Christagau's writings/ratings I've often wondered if he likes songs that are longer than 2 and a half minutes. ; )


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Trying to drown my sorrows, BEG....but proud of the Habs and the majestic Carey Price.....decided to return to an old high school beauty - “Hot Rocks” by The Rolling Stones......Yes, yes...all the songs were well before my high school time but they were still very much relevant in the mid 70’s....dig the track list:

Time Is On My Side 2:50

Heart Of Stone 2:49

Play With Fire 2:15

(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction 3:45

As Tears Go By 2:45

Get Off Of My Cloud 2:52

Mother's Little Helper 2:40

19th Nervous Breakdown 3:52

Paint It Black 3:20

Under My Thumb 3:20

Ruby Tuesday 3:12

Let's Spend The Night Together 3:29

Jumpin' Jack Flash 3:40

Street Fighting Man 3:10

Sympathy For The Devil 6:14

Honky Tonk Woman 3:03
Gimme Shelter 4:30

Midnight Rambler (Live) 8:23

You Can't Always Get What You Want 7:28

Brown Sugar 3:50

Wild Horses

.......and when you know that Robert Christgau gave this collection a B - , you will know for certain that his opinions weren’t worth a damn......... 20 classic rock n roll songs In 7 years - 1964-1971..Not bad ! A shame they didn’t pack it in after the classic “Some Girls” 7 years later.


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Posted by:

Imar K.

Location: Holland

Subject: Dutch interview with Robbie Robertson

Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while now. My mom sent me an interview with Robbie Robertson that came out today in the Dutch newspaper De Volkskrant. I've made a quick English translation, any ideas who I should should send it to if I want to have it published on this website? Cheers!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Lesson Learned
Web: My link

Subject: Ray Lamontagne

Well the truth it fell so heavy
Like a hammer through the room
That I could choose another over her
You always said I was an actor, baby
Guess in truth you thought me just amateur

Was it you who told me once
Now looking back it seems so real
That all our mistakes are merely grist for the mill
So why is it now after I had my fill
That you steal from me the sorrow that I've earned
Shall we call this a lesson learned?
Shall we call this a lesson learned?

Have a great weekend everyone!
Go Raps!
Go Habs!
Go Canucks!

:-D


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Testimony of a Musical Poet

"I bought my first albums by solo artists in 1967. I was 16 and was introduced to both by Larry McGuire, my Grade 10 English teacher. The first was Lightfoot, released the previous year; the second, The Songs of Leonard Cohen, released in Canada’s Centennial year. I remain deeply grateful.

A year later I bought my first album by a group. It was recommended by my younger brother Steve. It was not by The Beatles or The Dave Clark Five or The Rolling Stones, but by five musicians known simply and audaciously as The Band."

"What are our expectations? Which of the things we desire are within reach? If not now, when? And will there be some left for me?"

Anthony Bourdain


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Frozen Mixed Fruit Power Drink

Rick Danko and all the boyzzz.

"Assume the worst. About everybody. But don't let this poisoned outlook affect your job performance. Let it all roll off your back. Ignore it. Be amused by what you see and suspect. Just because someone you work with is a miserable, treacherous, self-serving, capricious, and corrupt asshole shouldn't prevent you from enjoying their company, working with them, or finding them entertaining."


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

....and another DANKO beer.

"Unfiltered Brewing Releasing Danko Double IPA

HALIFAX, NS

"Danko Double IPA is a 7.5% abv and 100+ IBU “SMaSH” (single malt & single hop) ale brewed using Simcoe hops. Its name has the following origin: Why Danko? Well, “dank” is a common descriptor of Nash’s hop-monsters, and Rick Danko of The Band is from Simcoe, Ontario. We were struggling for a name when Emily came up with that one, more-or-less saving the day."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Danko beer - "Double "The Weight" of Simcoe hops" according to the can. Not bad either."


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Bob Marley and George Harrison

"In fact, there are no audio, visual or news accounts of George Harrison ever playing with Bob Marley. Both artists were in the USA and not London at the time. George Harrison had just finished recording the album Extra Texture at the time of the meeting.

Harrison was in fact a fan of Bob Marley and his music; nothing more. On July 13, 1975, George Harrison was invited backstage before a Bob Marley show at the Roxy in Los Angeles to meet Marley.

Here is the photo of the two men meeting backstage. This is the photo that has been used over the years to create the false impression on the bogus posters that the two collaborated onstage together.

In fact, when Marley was told that George Harrison was coming backstage, he reportedly lit up a joint and exclaimed, “Ras Beatle!” It appears from this next photo that George also got to enjoy a smoke with Bob before the show. "


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Herbs

Hi Jon L! Yes, I've posted the photo of Marley and Rick Danko before. It is indeed so very cool. I would have guessed that Levon would have been the first to meet Marley as they have other things in common.

What was so very disappointing for me was being in Jamaica for the third time and this time I was in Kingston, Jamaica for two days. My friend's family had a home there as well as in Montego Bay.......and......The very day we visit Marley's home on Hope Road which was previously PM's home and after Marley's passing.....became a Museum......It was the one day it was closed!!!!! So close and yet so far away. :-(

Bob Marley And Rick Danko

LOS ANGELES - July 26, 1978: Jamaican singer and songwriter Bob Marley and Bass player Rick Danko, July 26, 1978 at The Daisy In Beverly Hills, California. (Photo by Ginny Winn/Michael Ochs Archives/Getty Images).

There is also a photo of George Harrison and Marley as well but unfortunately not on this site.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Hey BEG, someone on The Band FB page just posted a 1978 shot of Rick Danko with Bob Marley. Did you know they had crossed paths? Too cool!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Latest: "Nashville Tears" by Rumer. Can't stop playing it.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Last five played

The Band by the Band three times yesterday, twice today in a row. Unimprovable.

Unless ‘Get Up Jake’ had been included on the album.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: No Coffee Just Searching

BILL M...A Journal Of Musicial Things
August 20, 2020

Can you solve this Canadian musical mystery...JERRY PENFOUND
[UPDATED!]
August 10, 2020
Alan Cross

"[When I die], I will decidedly not be regretting missed opportunities for a good time. My regrets will be more along the lines of a sad list of people hurt, people let down, assets wasted, and advantages squandered."

Anthony Bourdain


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"The enigmatic song This Wheel’s On Fire was a key element on the hugely influential album “Music From Big Pink,” The Band’s debut album. Even more impressively, the song’s lyrics were penned by the renowned Bob Dylan, with The Band’s bassist, Rick Danko."

Canadian Songwriter's Hall Of Fame
This Wheel’s On Fire
Year Inducted: 2017
Written In: 1967

JED...As Kawhi would say, "We haven't won anything."
And as Kyle would say, "A win's a win." (however ugly)


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Rococoa Almond Milk

...same price as wine!

Did you mean do the FreddIE FRED?

KEVIN...I guess you slept better last night, huh, huh?
Captain Kirk really beamed them up, up, up....
:-D

"I can unload my opinion on anybody at any time."

Anthony Bourdain
brown eyed angelina


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Ooh la la those Southern Ontarian girlz ; )

Bill M: for many Ontarians from the northern/northwestern part of the province, the mysterious allure of girls from the Golden Horseshoe is powerful. : )


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Bill M

Location: Tronno

I don't believe I've seen Paul Shaffer in person, but I know my parents did - in the early '70s when I bought them tickets for the local production of "Godspell". Gilda Radner, Martin Short and Eugene Levy were in the cast, and Shaffer was in the pit playing piano as future Lou Reed sideman (on "Berlin") played guitar. A few years before, Martynec had been in the group Kensington Market with singer-songwriter Keith McKie, a Northern Ontarian whose stories of the young women in Toronto inspired Shaffer to convince his parents to send him to university here. I suspect he masked his real reasons in those discussions.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: That would be Freddie with an “ie” : )

Angelina: Valerie Bertinelli & Paul Shaffer, eh? I never knew that. Plus points to Mr. Shaffer for that (Ms Bertinelli was one of my many teenage crushes). Minus points, though, for not diggin’ the garlic. ; )

From 1967/68 until 1972 we lived across the street from the Shaffers. I may have met/seen/said “hi” to Paul once or twice.....he had already escaped from the friendly confines of then Fort William for the bright lights of Toronto.

I do have a memory of some of his friends coming to pick him up at the house...summer of ‘69 ( I was 6)...2 girls and 2 guys in a convertible. I was on his side of our street. One of the guys in the car asked me where I lived and then he asked “What does your old man do?” to which I blurted out “my Dad’s not old...he’s 44.” which made one of the girls in the back of the car laugh.

one of my English teachers in high school was a friend of Paul Shaffer’s. They also played in a band together. Sometimes during class he’d tell us some stories. These kids and their R&R...


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Todd

Thank you very, very much Todd.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Grey Boy Is Back!

I was walking along Wellington Street yesterday and ran into the restaurant that Kawhi Leonard and former Canadian Rap Corey Joseph from Pickering had lunch. Yup pricey so I'll go to my brother's instead.

Go Raps!

Tonight the Habs will rise over the Philly team.
"Rise, oh, rise, oh, rise, oh, rise, oh, rise, oh
Rise and take your stance again
'Tis s/he who fight and run away
Live to fight another day".
Come on! They are not the Broadside Bullies like days gone by!

Linked...."Cavalcade" host Paul Cavalconte and Robbie Robertson (photo by Nora Doyle, WFUV)

Freddy...Apparently Valerie Bertinelli dated briefly Thunder Bay's Paul Shaffer. He wasn't into garlic!!!! How else do we keep the vampires at bay?! Btw, I had no idea he attended the same UofT as myself and that one of our degrees is in Sociology and we both love music and NYC......He's my soulmate......Nah! He doesn't dig garlic!!

Todd...I have a Himalayan Salt Lamp...Just sayin'.

"I'm very type-A, and many things in my life are about control and domination, but eating should be a submissive experience, where you let down your guard and enjoy the ride."

Anthony Bourdain


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Stagefright Vinyl

John D, I can't speak definitively about the current new vinyl edition of Stagefright, but in the box set from 2015 that I mentioned last week, the fold out picture was included. The reproduction quality is pretty good. I would try to avoid the 2008 vinyl reissues, as I've read about inconsistent quality on those pressings.

If the 2015 is the version that they are still selling for new purchases of the individual album, then it's probably a safe bet that the print is included. For what it's worth, the copy of Moondog Matinee in the same box set also includes the Blackie's Pool Hall / Cabbagetown Cafe illustration, which is also nicely reproduced.

Haso, yes indeed. Bull Moose is a great shop! I wish I could have spent more time shopping there. We used to stay in the Portsmouth area some years back when my daughter had lacrosse tournaments in the region. We always tried to spend some time in Portsmouth during those trips. There was also a funky salt shop in town that my wife really liked that sold Himalayan Crystal Salt. I always enjoyed our visits to Portsmouth, but I frequently seemed to get parking tickets at the street parking meters in those days.


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John D

Subject: Stage Fright Vinyl

Does anyone know if; when I buy a new vinyl copy of Stage fright; if the Great fold out picture is still included? Thank you.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The horror..the horror

Angelina: ketchup on pasta..that’s an excommunicable offense! : 0


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brown eyed girl

Location: Just About To Be Adjusted
Web: My link

Subject: Carob Banana Bread

Let's Go Montreal Canadiens! Allez Allez!!

Celtic Bhoy...Well if it makes you feeeeeel happy and smile.......We will join you!

"As you move through this life and this world, you change things slightly; you leave marks behind, however small. And in return, life--and travel--leaves marks on you. Most of the time, those marks--on your body or on your heart--are beautiful. Often, though, they hurt."

Anthony Bourdain


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Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Party's Over

The latest review in the 60s Retrospective series is THE PARTY’S OVER (linked). It was filmed in 1962 for release in 1963, but after the censors demanded 18 minutes be cut, it was shelved. It was directed by Bond film director Guy Hamilton, with script by Marc Behm (who did Help!). John Barry did the soundtrack. It starred Oliver Reed in one of his first lead roles. Then in 1965, Rank Organization sold the savagely edited film off to a distributor and Hamilton demanded his name be taken off. The BFI (British Film Institute) has restored the pre-censorship version. As well as a review of the film, it is interesting that it was refused an X (18) certificate in 1963, but is now a “12.” It's "early Swinging London".


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Classic albums

I watched for the first time in several years the making of the Band album. I think it is a really good film, perhaps even having more effect ona non musician?I think George Harrison talking about the album being on his jukebox where he keeps the albums he plays all the time, using the word ‘longevity’ is a glowing testimony to the album.

I think in ‘King Harvest (Has Surely Come)’, you get more quality in terms of music - the lyrics, the musicianship, the changing tempos and rhythms, the mood created, the guitar solo, the drumming, the understated, but effective bass, the singing and the two keyboards etc - than you do get in many other bands’ entire albums. But Greil correctly states that you have to listen to the song as a whole, and it’s enduring excellence probably owes a lot to John Simon.

Still the album I would take to a desert island.

Thanks very much Celtic Bhoy. My grandson is in what is called the pre Academy and we are proud as a family. He get great coaching led by another of the McStays, but our feet are firmly on the ground. My son, his uncle, did thirteen years as a part timer, and never got a full time contract, so we know how difficult it is. Still, we are proud of his achievement.Check out the site Toppermost, which I think you will enjoy.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Katja Rieckermann

I got brave enough to watch this again today.........twice before I've had to pick my eye balls up off my desk watching this girl play that sax.......oh my!


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Bill M

Location: Atwood's consort appears in a Band article

Peter V: As a fan of Margaret Atwood, you might be interested in the 1969 article about "The Toronto Sound" that Jan recently posted at What's New. Near the top of the first page of text is the line, "There's a lot of what Ontario novelist Graeme Gibson calls 'this solemn world of uncles' in the Band." Gibson was soon to become Atwood's consort, and remained so until his death last year. A good line anyway, and an accurate one.


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Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: Makes me smile and feel happy....

Ojai, Ray LaMontagne.

Lovely, lovely song.

Had hoped to attach a link, but sadly by tech capabilities have fallen woefully short..... where is my 17 year old daughter when I need her??


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Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: Pizza

Dunc has suggested haggis pizza, the delicacy of Scotland.

Let’s not forget the deep-fried pizza, almost unique to late night burger vans in Glasgow and responsible for the nations exceptional world leading performance when it comes to coronary heart disease!

However, until you’ve tried one at 3 am after exploring all that our splendid hostelries have to offer, don’t knock it!!😳


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Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: Dunc - big congrat’s!,

Dunc, fantastic news about your grandson, you must be proud as punch!

And your grandson must have some serious talent in those feet, the competition for the wee bhoy’s academy is intense and that is some achievement for one so young. As you say, early days but no one can ever take away the fact that he got in when thousands of others haven’t.

What position does he play?

By the time he makes the first team they’ll be going for 23 in a row!!

All good things Dunc. I take it you may have raised a glass of something????


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Kohlrabi Robertson Pizza By The Grand River

"So it turns out I'm not quite a ROBBIE ROBERTSON... but I'd like to think that this pizza, which I'm referring to as Kohlrabi Robertson, is something along the lines of what he is all about, bridging the gap between the traditional and the modern. And in this case that's using a very traditional European vegetable to make a modern pizza.

This pizza then crossed borders from a Europe to East Asia with the addition of bok choy to the base and as a topping. Unsure of what to use a couple heads of bok choy that were getting a bit yellow and wilty I threw them in a pesto along with some kale from the garden. After all, it was Week of Greens and I had to finish on a strong green note.

To compare this pizza -- or myself --- one more time to the great musician who crossed genres and helped contribute to the formation of the types of music known as Americana, Roots Rock, and Country Rock, this pizza crosses genres and blends cultures. Oh man, this is so ridiculous, I should just stop here, but for some reason I keep reaching for comparisons. Time to be honest, the main reason this pizza is called Kohlrabi Robertson is because the name just floated into my head while making it and I like puns. But I really do love The Band and Robbie Robertson so I'm happy to name this pizza after him!"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: politically autocorrect

Peter V: Autocorrect may have been gently suggesting that you ask yourself if 'young woman' would be a better term for the sort of person you're thinking of.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Anybody for Haggis Pizza?


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Peter V

Pizza with potato? I've tried it in Japan out of curiosity. It's nowhere near as bad as Chicken Tikka Masala pizza on sale in British supermarkets. There are those who disagree but I still remember an Italian friend's face the first time she saw a Hawaiian pizza with pineapple which again can be bought in any supermarket. I find that just as disgusting.

I'm busy trying to develop a new site on record collecting, having given up on actually publishing a book. I'm trying to cope with Wordpress's awful new "Block editor". I'm currently doing a film review, and one character is an American girl. Somewhere in auto correction there must be a lot of Tom Petty fans, because it insists on capitalizing 'Girl' every time.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: "The way you make an omelet reveals your character."Anthony Bourdain

LFQ
Literature/Film
Quarterly

"The Beginning of the Beginning of the End of the Beginning": The Last Waltz and/as Adaptation
Thomas Grochowski

Conclusions
"As the field of adaptation studies continues to stake out new territories -- and at times struggle with theoretical and methodological approaches -- I see The Last Waltz as one text that can pave the way for an understanding of the rock and roll film as a genre of adaptation. Indeed in my teaching of the rock and roll film for the last twenty years, the selection of a corpus of films has always led to a syllabus that seems to cut across multiple genres. Working from the idea of the rock film as an adaptation, I am finding a means through which to continue theorizing about the films I screen and study. In his concluding chapter to the Oxford Handbook of Adaptation Studies, Leitch poses a question: What does labeling and reading a text as an adaptation allow it to do that other readings don't? (706). As I examine The Last Waltz, I have been asking myself that question. The film has been examined within the context of the rock concert documentary form; within the context of Martin Scorsese's career; as a calling card for its producer-star Robbie Robertson, and so on. For me, Scorsese's film remains significant for how it calls attention to the entire process of storytelling and history-telling. Because The Band's greatest work has crossed over so many musical and thematic lines, and because their story, too, has been about border crossings, Scorsese encapsulates these elements through the choices he made in the editing room in shooting additional performances on the soundstage. He adapts these themes and the acts of history-writing as part of a commentary on the struggle between a world that makes no sense and a human need to make sense of it."

FRED...and then some of us have friends who actually put ketchup on the pasta sauce I've made.....Hello? There is wine in my sauce.....As I made zucchini mushroom tomato sauce yesterday I thought about this friend...My brother the gourmand will no longer have him over for dinner ever again!.....Or another male friend who will put hot sauce in the home made chicken noodle soup......Sheesh! So one day I asked him.....What's up with the hot sauce on everything you eat? I like hot sauce too but not on everything......Well, sad answer as I grew up with amazing home cooked meals for the most part. He said that his mother.....of course it's always your mum's fault......His mother was a terrible cook as her food was very bland without seasoning.....So he just spiced everything up.

Good Morning KEVIN...Don't worry, be happy. The Habs will rise again!!
And the Canucks and Flames better realize this is playoff time.....the time to step it up a notch.....big notch!
You crack me up everytime Kevin. You are so funny and have such a way with words and images.....A+
And the way you apologize to others shows you have a big heart. :-D
I know you've been riffing for a long time....All I will say is that he made pancakes not a sandwich. I prefer crunchy peanut butter anyway. And as for the Liverpool situation....Ha! He's still trying to crawl back. It must be my home cooking....not true....All the important men in my life are the really good cooks......like Robbie's Ma provided to all the boyzzz in The Hawks.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MARIA McKEE'S BIRTHDAY August 17 (my brother too)
Admired by many fans
Really living her own truth now
Irresistible laugh
A woman who beats to her own musical drum!


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Posted by:

Fred

Kevin J: THE culinary crime against humanity is pizza with mashed potatoes on it. Step forward, hang your head in shame and claim your (dis)honour Japan. :(


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Great article on the Stage Fright album linked on the What's New page... hat tip to Jan.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Nicely put, Lisa. Though, while we can all be glad that Marco Polo nicked pasta from the Chinese and agree that the Italians got it right - the world really would have been better off without the crimes against civilization that is the American versions of Italian and Chinese food.......and run for the hills with both guns drawn if you ever get served Poutine by anyone not named Jean-Guy !


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Posted by:

Lisa

I have a lot of trouble with the whole cultural appropriation thing. I'm not talking about things like black or brown face, which are clearly offensive and should never be tolerated. But when it comes to food, recipes, styles, music and learning from and borrowing from different cultures surely this is a good thing that fosters acceptance - which as our cities become more and more multicultural is more than just a good thing, it really is quite necessary for peaceful living. I can't imagine Vancouver without its blend of cultures and it works for the most part. Those students who boycotted sushi as cultural appropriation - are they crazy??? Too absurd, who takes stuff like that seriously? Well, a lot of people, it seems.

Well, I guess Felix Salten should never have been allowed to write Bambi - he was never a deer, and was profiting from stealing from deer culture! And Shakespeare - sorry, no Hamlet (he wasn't a Dane), Julius Caesar (not a Roman), Othello (certainly not Black) etc. etc. No more imagination, no more creativity, what an impoverished miserable state the world would be in if the powers that be take this to its inevitable conclusion. Fortunately, I think this particular pendulum has swung about as far as it can go, or at least I fervently hope so.


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Kevin J

BEG !!!! I was just riffing on your Anthony Bourdain line....no Miss Sweden but it is going take me years to unpack the doubleheader of a mum turning her good for nothing son away from someone as desirable as you because you sounded nothing like Ringo or even the more unimaginable transgression of a Bulgarian making a peanut butter and banana sandwich. Say it ain’t so.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Watermelon

KEVIN J....As soon as I saw your post Ray LaMontagne's Airwaves came on and Midnight appeared on my patio. Grey Boy is at his home recuperating from an injury....I really miss him.
:-(
Now, it's a Swedish girl this time, huh? I could say something but I will not......except....no I better not. The last time I was offered the same sandwich by a Bulgarian artist....He didn't like to cook but he did one day to impress me. He made it clear that it wouldn't happen again. He never saw me again. A better memory was a Tom Petty lookalike who baked me a birthday cake for my 23rd birthday. I remember the year because it was the very first time I had the number candles on my cake. His mother did not approve of me as I did not come from Liverpool like herself....Six months later he crawled back and by that time too late. From that point on I bought my own candles.
The next one was in construction and he put sparklers on my birthday cake.
Let's Go Habs Tonight!

Levon Helm
DECEMBER 1, 1998
SCOTT JORDAN

"I communicate for a living, but I'm terrible at communicating with people I care about."
Anthony Bourdain
1956-2018

Songs On Repeat

Sweetheart Like You...Jimmy Lafave
I Was Born To Love You...Ray LaMontagne
Airwaves...Ray LaMontagne
DJ Khaled...I'm The One Featuring Bieber, Quavo, Chicago's Chance The Rapper, Lil Wayne...I turn the street lingo back at the boyzzzz....
The Best Of Everthing Alternate Version...Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers
One World, One Prayer...The Wailers featuring Shaggy, Skip Marley, Cedella Marley, Farruco


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Pretty good article from about TNTDODD, written three years before the current political discussions about the song took off.


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Kevin J

BEG.....I once offered Miss Sweden a bite of my peanut butter and banana sandwich. She did turn up her nose and yes, the relationship did change after that ! The late truly great Anthony Bourdain was never wrong.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

CAROLINE HOWE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 09:41 EDT, 11 June 2020 | UPDATED: 12:15 EDT, 11 June 2020

EXCLUSIVE: 'I didn't know if we were playing great music or total bull****.'
How The Band drummer Levon Helm 'couldn't take' playing with Bob Dylan because their sounds were so different and had a number one fan in Bill Clinton

JUNE 8, 2018 ANTHONY BOURDAIN
"When somebody's offering you food, they're telling you a story. They're telling you what they like, who they are... You turn your nose up at that important moment, the whole relationship changes."

Bourdain, who died at 61, traveled the world, sampling local cuisine and meeting people along the way. He told Fresh Air in 2016: "I'm happiest experiencing food in the most purely emotional way."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Blueberry Waffle Pecans Canadian Maple Syrup OJ Extra Pulp

Good Morning haso. It's only basketball...and I like it! Just sayin'. Jed...Tomorrow 4:00 be there or be square. :-D

Alex...Good to see you posting and feeeeeling better? I love your city...especially when Montreal has it's Canada Day weekend Jazz Fest. Just like here it's not by any means all jazz but many genres of music. Anyway, when I was there a few years ago; wow......The musicianship so much better than here. I even had the famous Schwartz experience....Yes! It had been a long time since I had one of their smoked meats. I remember as a child my grandfather was trying to explain to me what exactly was corned beef....I just couldn't wrap my head around it. After having a restaurant and a store he worked at a Country Club and cooked for the people on the other side of the tracks who listened only to folk music and not rock and roll. And then as I was walking on the same street? I ran into a Yoga Studio that is co-owned by a sister of a co-worker. I cannot take the heat so did not book a class. I stayed in an industrial loft and was blessed daily by Mount Royal Cross outside my window. Now Quebec City....Only place in Canada that you can pretend that you are in Europe. For me it's all about the food. Most love the wines.....but my taste buds just don't appreciate all the nuances, but occasionally I like the slow buzz. And.....sports.....baseball the Expos had Vlady's father. The player I keep my eye on is Biggio......of course......no I could keep my eye on one of the other two who all have fathers who were former players......Vladimir Guerrero Jr.....cannot resist grandma's cooking, Bo Bichette who has some of that South American vibe via of his father and.....Cavan Biggio. Keep well Alex....Btw do you also go by Sasha?

Music Minute: John Simon (The Band) Posted on August 11, 2020 by Nichols Memorial Library

Pat B... I made a mistake re name calling of Robbie in some parts. I remember now....He was called the Robster not the Robber as he is referred to in some parts. Meeting this person; like all of us.....well for the most part we're all nice enough but there are some lines you just cannot shift......

Ilkka...If you are still in contact with Kalervooooo.....In case he no longer checks in; since I have lost his email......Please let him know that Calm passed. They kept in touch. And many thanks for introducing him to me. So much fun....Please tell him I wish him and his partner the very best.


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Posted by:

Alex

Location: Pointe-Claire

Kevin, this is how I sign in now. The Landmark title has been retired.

I have never been a Canadien fan. Chicago has always been my club. And yes, I still miss the Expos. When Claude Brochu refused to sign everyone after the 94 strike. They lost me as a fan. I later gravitated back to the Red Sox when Terry Francona was the manager. He was my favourite Expo. Decent talent but a giant heart. You can trace two pennant race collapses to when he blew out his knees. I was happy when he won a couple of Series for Boston.

As for Kamala Harris, I think she would've been too young for the John Boccabella reference although not too young for Claude Mouton. I did live a three iron drive from where she went to high school for many years. My father played gin rummy, every day, in a club across the street from the school.

Last 5 listened to (On my Ipod while walking the dog)

1) The Harder They Fall- Jimmy Cliff

2) Shaking All Over-Guess Who 3) The Rumour-The Band

4) Kansas City Shuffle-Frank Zappa

5) She's So Young-The Pursuit Of Happiness


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: 'Fields Of Gold'

Politically, I am a left wing populist. (That's why I am Boris man, Peter). That's why my favourite music is folk music. I mean _FOLK_ music. This is my favourite 'Fields Of Gold' These are good Christian girls. Just Google "Fields of Gold - The Petersens".

Right wing popularism and left wing popularism have a lot in common: the ordinary people.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: 'Fields Of Gold' - I am mad!

After a delicious Sunday lunch (Norwegian salmon), potatoes from the Danish island of Samsoe and white wine from Australia I picked up my ol' banjo and played 'Fields Of Gold'. I figured out immediately that this is an Applachian mountain hymn from the 19th century, if not earlier. Google says that Sting has composed it. This cannot be true!

What a rotten world the music business is!!!


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Posted by:

Rod

I've only listened to Garths piano intro into Rag Mama Rag a couple of times. Sonically it didn't sound like something from The Band sessions. A bit to well recorded


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: 5 for, Raps

Haven't yet caught up on gb or my emails, but Angie: hoping we see the Raps in the 2nd round. I can understand you didn't want to talk alot after Jaylen put the clamps on Pascal a little while back. Who knows, maybe one of our teams will run into Kawhi in the Finals. That said, LeBron is increasingly hard to really dislike; for a Red Sox fan, kind of like Mariano or Jeter back in the recent past compared to say when Thurman Munson or Billy Martin were one's association w/ the Yankees or actually A-Rod, when you think about it.

But your recent TNTDODD links have been quite enlightening. I'm not quite from Taplin's territory, yet this blind version of the song as totally from a KKK or Lost Cause perspective seems awfully simplistic and non-nuanced. The young Levon, going down for the King Biscuit Boys in W. Helena likely would not recognize that, I don't think.

Last 5: been kind of OQ-based. That's on account of investing in a cd player for my workvan; felt I should indoctrinate it right.

50th of the Brown Album: one reaction, to the add-on version of Rag Mama... Garth's New Orleans-inflected intro piece almost felt like a dry run, in its own way, of when he would later build up the Genetic Method.

50th Brown: Live at Woodstock cd

Garth's Canadian Celebration.

Love for Levon: 1st cd

Norm: I'll get to your cd, soon. Last of 5, The Red Hot Chilli Pipers: self-titled. Changing up, in the process of weeding through my late brother's cds, some of which are duplicates of mine. I can take the extras and get some credit from Bullmoose Records in the nearby port town. (Thanks Todd, for recent shout-out to the local, independent shop; I find I still don't need Netflix as I can go there, buy tunes and also used copies of dvd's for short money and return if they are punky. Almost like Blockbuster years ago w/ an extensive selection of music, vinyl as well, to go along w/ it.) In fact, I'll likely order a copy of OWB for posterity, next time I'm there.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: All Day Breakfast Avocado Toast Chicken Sausage Sundried Tomato Scrambled Eggs Refried Grilled Potatoes

Style[edit]
"LaMontagne has a unique vocal style which he says is created by singing through his gut instead of through his nose.[38] He cites Stephen Stills, Richard Manuel, and Rick Danko as strong musical influences while critics have compared LaMontagne's music to that of The Band, Van Morrison, Nick Drake, and Tim Buckley.[39][failed verification][40] A Rolling Stone review of his album Supernova referred to his voice as an "impeccably weathered tenor croon" and his phrasing as "marble-mouthed."[41]"

Habs Habs Habs Habs Habs!!!!!

On a disappointing note I could not visit my Aunt S this weekend by the Grand River as the Virus had broken out once again.....Her eldest son's cancer returned. My fave relatives and so much........She does not know me anymore.....Although she does seem to connect with one thing.....I told her that Mr. Maximus said that she was a very intriguing woman. I could feeeeel her spirit rise again through the phone as she was no longer saying things I did not want to hear or accept.....Since he's ten years her junior.......Well........I don't know but she seems to connect with that compliment....Who wouldn't? :-D

You're the only one I can talk to
The only one I can really read
I know you give because you want to
Don't you think it's time you learn to let yourself receive?

Could make you smile, could make you sing
Just want to give back a little bit of what you give me
I could sing you a song, play you a tune
I know it's just a little thing, but it's something I can do

I was born to love
I was born to
Born to love
I was born to

I was born to love you
I was born to love you


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Six Five Special

Enjoyed reading the review of the Six Five Special, Peter. Thanks. Although I was really too young for the show, I know many of the acts well.

From a Scottish perspective, Jacky Dennis is important. There was pride in Scotland when he appeared on American tv, I think the Perry Como show. He retired from the music business, when he knew his time was up, and ended as a senior care worker, and always comes across as well balanced, intelligent and happy.

Last Train to San Fernando was huge up here, and Billy Connolly, when he was a folk singer, wrote a great parody of the song, Last Train to Glasgow Central, which was popular.

As for Mike and Bernie Winters, they bombed at the Glasgow Empire, Mike appeared first from the wings as usual, then Bernie appeared, as he did, with his hat, coat, cheesie grin and ‘Eeeee’. And somebody shouted from the audience, ‘Christ! There’s Two of Them.’

Thanks, Peter.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Yes, mainstream TV. If you want to know what can be shown at 9 pm on BBC broadcast TV, check out "Harlots". It was made a few years ago, but has just started running on BBC2 prime time. Incredible cast, set in 1763 London in a fight between two rival brothels. It is extremely good. The F and C word count is off the scale.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Thick of It

PV - We’ve just discovered this. Brilliant Ianucci again! Was that shown on regular TV? Fuck me, I thought our kind of ultimate free speech is what all our brave lads were fighting for!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

A happy Friday - BEG is grooving to Jimmy LaFave and the Habs showed real character by winning one for their hospitalized coach. The legendary sweater alone is usually worth 4 or 5 victories in any playoff year.......and BEG, I know exactly what you mean by having that voice cut straight to the heart. He was a very special singer, songwriter and person who faced his end with great dignity.

Mike Nomad.......I am with you you completely on the position of being out in the cold.....Really, I could LINK but why ? With the exception of a very few - notably BEG, DAG, Peter, Pat and Norm - almost everything is accessible by a simple search for a song. For those that have investigative Band news or more substantial music or entertainment news/reviews then - great - have at it. I enjoy them but what distinguishes this place over the Facebook type sites is the actual content of the posts........It actually irks me when I click on a news story on-line and realize that it is mostly a linked video rather than an actual newspaper type story. In fact, I almost never open such stories.

Claude Raymond......I like to think you are our old GB pal Landmark but either way - thank you for that “Le Grande Orange” reference !


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

BEG, thanks for pointing out that blog post about TNTDODD. Interesting perspective. I also saw an article by Ta-Nehisi Coates on the Atlantic web site which I'd recommend to anyone about Early James or the original song. I think I can't post a link but you could go to atlantic dot com and search for the author. I wouldn't agree with everything he wrote, but I think he's the kind of guy you could have an interesting conversation with, which I take seriously and would prefer to just talking to people I agree with. This GB has been particularly good lately.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Six-Five Special

I’m stretching my 60s Retrospective film reviews back a tad to include SIX-FIVE SPECIAL from 1958, a direct exploitation film based on Britain’s iconic first pop TV show. The outstanding performers are Lonnie Donegan, John Barry Seven and John Dankworth, but there are lots of “earlier” stars on there too. Worth watching, or just look at the photos in the review.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: Mike Nomad

What is this hussle with Mike Nomad? A mellow guy posting balanced posts? I wrote a longer post but got only a _FINGER_. I became mad. If I hadn't been drinking whisky I would have jumped into my car and told my opinion directly to web master.

The moral of this post is simply that you should drink whisky already to your breakfast to keep you out of the trouble the rest of the day. Like Sir Winston Churchill.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Mike N: Whatever, as long as you keep popping in. It's always good to read your contributions.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Panda Sambuca Licorice
Web: My link

Just one more....and then I'll wish all of you a fun filled weekend or maybe you just like to chill.

Very long version of one of my fave Waterboys songs.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Too Steamy Outside
Web: My link

Subject: Grilled Salmon

NOMADIC MIKE... :-D

KEVIN J... I keep playing SLY by JIMMY LAFAVE... His voice, his energy...The very first time I heard it.....It just pierced my heart. It's all about energy that you can't see but you can feel. Song of the month...year....just the guitar playing....right? How can anyone except Robbie improve or replicate Mick Taylor's elegant playing? As for TBOE....Yeah, in the end all we can do is wish the best for everyone we've been either close to or to those we'd like to be close to.....I always say thanks to the time we've shared together.....as it could have been a moment, week, month, year.....or many years and then poof......In our hearts of course they are always there...... :-D

John Simon: The Producer of The Band, Janis and Leonard Cohen “Vitalizes” His Career
Brian Robbins
April 22, 2013

"Do you have a favorite Levon story?

I think one of my favorite memories of Levon was when we both tried raw fish for the first time together. We had sushi out in LA at the Imperial Gardens restaurant next to the Chateau Marmont. He would often joke about that when he saw me: the time we took that courageous step to eat sushi together. (laughter)"

As well as producing The Band’s first two albums, you contributed musically, as well.

Yeah, I played a little bit. Producers come in different stripes; some are engineers, which I am not at all. People will ask me questions about what microphone I used for such and such and I have no idea. I’m a musician; I get off playing and contributing and arranging, you know?

Once I got involved with The Band as a producer, I started contributing my arrangement ideas. I was brought in on piano, say, when Richard Manuel thought the part was a little beyond him … and I was glad to step in."


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Bill M, thanks but . . . how to put this? My enjoyment of the GB comes from being able to share the wisdom and musical thoughts of people like you and a wide cohort of others previously mentioned by me in an earlier post. Flattery unintended. And their passion as well. Angie is a perfect example but there have been many others. You know who they are. For me, it was an early appreciation of the musicianship of the Hawks, of Ronnie Hawkins and numerous other musicians I had the good fortune to hear and see, that has sustained my interest in the Band. So the GB is an obvious place for me to land every morning.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Nomadic M: Did you ever send Jan an email asking, as suggested 2.5 inches above the space I'm typing in now? It's pretty clear from the evidence that bar is no longer high, if it ever was.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Thanks, Angie. I am, along with the GB multitude, one of your greatest fans. But I don’t really mind being out in the cold. In fact I prefer it. Btw, don’t tell Kevin but I actually shared breakfast one somber morning with Levon and Rick. It was a Saturday morning, as I recall, following a beverage-induced frenetic night at the Brass Rail in a city I once lived. I believe a buddy of Peter V’s also lived there. I bumped into the boys at an establishment called The Three Little Pigs, or simply “The Pigs,” as in “I’ll see ya at the Pigs.” L&R had a BLT and a toasted bacon and mushroom sandwich respectively. I could only stomach a coffee. The experience, as they say, was swell.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For Blind Willie McTell...RIP....One of the sweetest guys you'd ever want to meet from this GB. Sometimes the Universe rewards you with beautiful people that you meet really just by fluke. Another poster who was sitting beside me at a gig and we didn't even know that we were both from the GB until the end of the night.....He even gave me some Robbie and The Band CDS that I didn't have from various shows. He was in his fifties....Life is just not fair......as we all know.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Iced Tea

For NOMADIC MIKE... :-D

Can Neil Young Block Trump From Using His Songs? It’s Complicated
Musicians have complained about politicians playing their music at events for years. Now, with Mr. Young suing for copyright infringement, they are trying a new strategy.

Btw I asked after two years of not posting if I could have the key to the magic door. Just say brown eyed girl sent you. Uhhh.....I don't have any more clout but you can sure try, right?
jan h...Nomadic Mike actually saw....The Hawks!!!!!!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Sweetheart Like You

Music Biz Story Time: Garth Hudson, The Last Waltz, Chaos, & Me!
BY: GRAHAM ALEXANDER

KEVIN J... Habs...Rise up fallen fighters
Rise and take your stance again....

The Raps keep rapping along.....Tomorrow afternoon the bench will rise again!


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Neil Young

Interesting story in today’s New York Times about Neil Young suing the Trump campaign regarding the use of his music. I’d link it if I could but am not a member of the privileged few. You may recall that three ago Trump had used Young’s song “Rockin’ in the Free World” when announcing his campaign, thereby pissing off Neil. Young admits he has no legal recourse to stop Trump from using his music this time around but has launched a lawsuit anyway. Interesting read, even more so if you refer back to a 2015 Politico story (linked in the NYT piece above) regarding Reagan’s use of Springsteen songs.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: NY

Subject: The Band on Vinyl

Thanks Todd, I appreciate the feedback. Joe


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Posted by:

Jed

Go Raps. Great comebback from rough start. Kyle is mentally one of the league’s toughest. He’s a heck of a talent too.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Last five played

Laura Marling "Song for Our Daughter" five times through.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Boxed vinyl reissues. At $110 it’s a bargain. I last saw one at £180 in the UK so about double the price.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Latest 5 Albums

The Replacements - 'Don't Tell A Soul'- 2019 Matt Wallace Mix
The Who - 'Tommy'
The Rolling Stones - '12x5'
The Decemberists - 'The King is Dead'
Aretha Franklin - 'The Atlantic Singles Collection'


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: The Band on Vinyl

Hey Joe, I picked up a set of a Band vinyl reissue at Bull Moose records in Portsmouth New Hampshire a few years back. It's the original 8 releases prior to The Last Waltz...so Big Pink through Islands. Now you may not want all of those, but it was actually more economical to buy the set rather than individually. I couldn't find much info about the set at the time, but all the albums are 180 gram, all the original artwork is reproduced fairly nicely, (although the card stock doesn't seem quite as vintage), but they did a pretty nice job overall. I think it was pressed by QRP which has a decent reputation for quality.

A nice touch is that they recreated the Capitol labels for each record, appropriate to how it was released originally...so they used the rainbow label for Big Pink, lime green for The Band album, orange for Stage Fright etc.

I had some of these already, but it's nice to have on new clean vinyl. I don't know what the source for the mastering is, but I suspect it's based on the transfers that they did for the 2000 remasters. Just a hunch. However there are no bonus tracks; just the albums as originally released. Nevertheless, they all sound pretty good to my ears, very natural and warm, and I usually prefer all analog for vinyl.

The records come in a basic slip case style box, no additional books or anything like that, but it's overall a very nice presentation for the price.

It's called "The Band - The Capitol Albums 1968-1977" and came out in 2015. Linked above to the write-up on Jan's site here.

There's another reissue series of The Band albums that came out in 2008 called "From The Vaults". I've seen these in the stores sold individually. As I remember they had a shiny gold sticker on the front of the album. I've never heard any of these, but I've read about quality control issues with that series, so I would probably avoid those and go for the 2015 reissue. I don't know if any of the 2015 reissue albums are sold individually, but I think the pricing works out better for the box. It seems like new vinyl averages about $25 per album these days. You can pick up the box for about $110.00 if you shop around. That's an average price of about $14.00 per album which includes the double disc Rock of Ages. I've seen it listed on Amazon.



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Posted by:

Claude Raymond

I suppose that Kamala Harris is too young to remember the days when 'le Grand Orange' would not have been taken to to be a political reference.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Latest 5

This Here - Bobby Timmons

Pull Up Some Dust and Sit Down - Ry Cooder

Small World Big Band - Jools Holland

The Memphis Record - Elvis

The Benevolence of Sister Mary Ignatius - The Lee Thompson Ska Orchestra


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: More Expos talk

The strike of ‘94....the beginning of the end for the Expos. What might have been....I think I feel a tear running down my cheek. :_ (


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Posted by:

Fred

Hi, Angelina.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: NY

Subject: Thinking about taking the plunge

Ok, I know I raised this before without any comment, but I think I will try again. Just resurrected my turntable from the abyss of storage. Saw The Band's Capitol Albums (vinyl) for a good price and was wondering if the sound added anything to the 2000 remastered cds.

Appreciate any feedback from folks who have traveled down this path. joe


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Posted by:

Kevin J

BEG.....I’ve been listening to The Best of Everything by Tom Petty a lot. I can really relate to that story. I guess we all can in some way.

Fred....Blue Monday. What a sad memory. Quite by accident in looking up some of that Expos history, just realized that today - August 12 - is also a most infamous day in Expos history - perhaps the saddest of all. 1994, baseball went on strike. It ended not just the season for the Expos who had the best record in baseball at the time but broke up what surely would have been a dynasty. By the time they got back to playing the next season, the great roster of Larry Walker, Moises Alou, Marquis Grissom, Pedro Martinez, etc were broken up and sold off. I’ve hardly watched the game since.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Shrimp

Last 10 On Shuffle While Grocery Shopping

It Isn't Going To Be That Way...Steve Forbert
Keep Gettin' It On...Marvin Gaye
Sunshine Reggae...Laid Back (kidzzz know it and performed it!)
Real Good Friend...Greg Brown
Stuck Inside A Cloud...George Harrison
One World, One Prayer...featuring Skip Marley, Farrucco, The Wailers, Shaggy
Streetcar...Joseph Arthur
Airwaves...Ray Lamontagne
Cali Dreamin'...Jose Feliciano
The Best Of Everything (Alternate Version)...Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

KEVIN J... Sweetheart Like You...JIMMY LAFAVE!!!!
Thank you!!!!
:-D

JED...Almost Hoop Time!

Hi FRED!


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Posted by:

Fred

Kevin: well, that does change a lot. I'm re-evaluating my early opinion as I type.

Still, I'd like to know her position regarding Jim Fanning's decision to bring in Steve Rogers to pitch relief in the infamous (and heartbreaking) Blue Monday Game?.

: )


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Fred

Kamala Harris has been telling people that her fondest memory of Montreal is hearing the legendary PA man for the Habs and early years of the Expos - Claude Mouton - introduce JOHHHNNNN BOCK-[extremely long pause]-a-BELLLLLL-a!!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Last 5:

“Walk Away Renee” - Jimmy LaFave

“Sweetheart Like You” - Jimmy LaFave

“Restless Spirits” - Jimmy LaFave

“Romeo’s Tune” - Steve Forbert

“Song For Katrina” - Steve Forbert


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Common Dreams
Tuesday, August 11, 2020
Avengers, Assemble
Abby Zimet
Further columnist

"Okay, maybe Kamala Harris wasn't your first choice, nor was she ours. But the daughter of an Indian scientist and Jamaican economist who's married to a Jewish lawyer is a smart, tough, competent, empathetic, ready-to-go, all-American scrapper who brings what Charlie Pierce calls "hot molten steel" to the Biden campaign. She also brings some complex baggage as a former attorney general who's alternately described herself as a "top cop" and "progressive prosecutor," leading some progressives to wonder how many potential oxymorons you can fit into one C.V. Still, facing an election viewed by many as a possibly last-ditch battle between good and evil, she promises to be a fierce challenge to the scared little man in the White House feebly mewling she's "very, very nasty." As some have noted, he ain't seen nothin' yet."

Enjoy the day! :-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

“The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down”…An Ironic Tale of Diversity Surrounding a Symbol of Division and Hate
August 13, 2017

As a young African-American child growing up around all types of music, I loved the song “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” particularly the pop cover by legendary folk singer Joan Baez.

What kid under the age of eight at the time didn’t?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Spinach Pie

Pat B...No luck finding the Levon link I posted twice and no one said anything at the time. It is not a printed interview but Levon himself speaking re TWOF.

Damian Lillard...61 points!!!!


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Posted by:

Fred

Big effing whoop that the potential VP of the US lived in Montreal...unless she liked the Expos, then that changes everything. ; )

She has centrist appeal...a safe pick... which I guess is a plus for the Democrats in their bid to get back into the White House. But I'm not too fond of former prosecutors running for higher office.

She will wipe the floor with the current VP when (if?) they debate during the campaign. No doubt about that.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

What, FOX News gaining ground in Japan, Fred ? That’s cherry picking and not even accurate... according to the Fact Check records “Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offences.” She is a vey impressive person and an inspired choice. Or maybe a Tim Kaine/Andrew Scheer kind of wet noodle is what you would have wanted.

Besides, spending the formative years of her life in Canada ( and Montreal no less ) should provide great comfort to anyone who cares about a future President. I know Joe will have the title but he won’t be doing much past 2022. I would feel very comfortable having a person of her intelligence and guts in charge of the US government and dealing with issues like pandemics and Putin that take those exact type of qualities.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Joe Biden's choice..just another freakin' criminal lawyer : (

Yeah she admitted to toking up, yet as Californian Attorney General how many people did she send to jail for doing the same thing? Quite a few from what I've read.

I really think that she is an uninspired choice....however that's just my opinion and as not being an American (of the below the 49th parallel kind) it doesn't really matter in the scheme of things.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

KEVIN J!!!!! Uhhhh....I made a mistake sorry....I have no idea why I used that wink. Actually when I saw him I just couldn't believe the size of his chest and how ripped he was.....I can't remember his arms.....and of course he wasn't wearing a speedo......lol......When I used to watch him as a player on an opposing team I had no idea about his height.....I also dated someone who played basketball for Rye High at 6'5" so I'm pretty good about heights.....And Shanahan has three older brothers so he had a lot of practice duking it out. Ohhhh maybe you are right and the media lied to me! Imagine that they lied about his height!! It was Tom Wilson who is 6'4" from the Washington Caps. Anyway, what you were referring to.....I ain't that kind of girl.....I still think the sexiest part of a man is his mind.....Shanny was a fleeting crush......That's all I'm sayin' Kevin..... :-D

Today at VV I found a Nick Hornby book. No it wasn't Juliet Naked or Fidelity but Songbook....."a kind of prose equivalent of a mix-tape."

Rick Danko Video Detective


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Bathing suit you say....

BEG.........Shanny had his skates on ! I’m sure your eyes were elsewhere!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

I started with Circus then Creem and although I had heard much about Rolling Stone, it was always more difficult to find. When I did mid-late 70’s, I thought it was great. Then Bob Guccione started SPIN in the early 80’s and Rolling Stone went from newspaper to glossy magazine and the jig was up. Like Bob Dylan albums though, I never stopped purchasing Rolling Stone and always found myself somewhat caring what they had to say. Guitar Player is the only magazine I have continuously subscribed to over the years. The New Yorker and Conde Nast Traveler are two I also enjoyed for years.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

KEVIN J...Noooo I saw Shanahan in his bathing suit and he's definitely 6'4". The artist from way back was 6'2" so I know. ;-D

I'm even feistier than the Leafs......plus.....ya need DEFENCE......hello?

Pay attention Maple Leafs.......Show some grit and don't let the opposing team get too close to your goalie!! If I can stand my ground on the streetcar to an opposing large opponent........Sheesh!

I was riding on the streetcar and I kinda lost it......a bit.....However I was proud of myself that I wasn't intimidated by this rather large guy who sat on a seat that said you couldn't sit on due to the Virus. So.....I took out my phone and pretended to take a photo of him not following the rules that apply to all of us. The Virus doesn't care what your class background is or whether you were cheering for the Leafs or the Habs.....Right away he gives me the finger right in front of everyone. Without batting an eyelash I showed him my phone as he was sitting across from me and said right out loud, "I'm not even on my camera asshole!!!!! Yiiikes.....I usually don't swear ......in public......The first thing that quickly went through my head was oh nooooooo......There are cameras here.....Bill M will see this on TV and post it on the GB!! Anyway.....I think the brute was surprised that I wasn't afraid of him and called him on his shit.....not caring about himself or others......He just put his finger down and didn't say a word back........I was lucky.........as many downtown in my hood do not take their meds and my antennae has to be up all the time.......As I was getting up to get off the streetcar I wanted to call out, "I've already had the Virus!".......but instead I walked by him as he was no longer looking my way. Just another day on the TTC.

And you forgot to mention that Kamala's Ma taught at McGill! She also admits that she actually inhaled! Ohhh la,la,......I wish I knew now......You know the rest.

TV Shows

Vera
Masterpiece Endeavours
Snowfall

The Leafs have been rebuilding since 1967.

The last time I read Rolling Stone when it was actually a newspaper was in the seventies. One time the headline was about the end of Rickie Lee Jones and Tom Waites relationship. She did not get out of bed for two months? I can always get out of bed....I just don't eat........The other issue was when Jackson Browne's partner took her own life.......So 1971 was not the year it all ended for me. I also used to receive Rolling Stone by the Grand River in the mail.....before I left for the big city.

Last Goldmine I bought and still have....
Cat Stevens Return of the peace train 2000

Aloneness

She was happy
She lived for herself and
Enjoyed her own company
They called it loneliness
She knew it was freedom

F.E. Marie


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Re: Pat B's Rolling Stone escapade..

Why did that not surprise me one bit?

I used to buy the magazine when I was in high school and university (along with Creem).

I started getting a sense of it starting to go downhill sometime around the end of the 80s/beginning of the 90s. I'm sure some people would pinpoint the start of the decline sometime in the 1970s.


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Posted by:

Fred

Bill M: the Leafs are in perpetual rebuilding mode. Reminds me of how every year (where I live) in our neighbourhood the city fixes the same stretch of the street that was fixed the year before.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Yeah ! Kamala Harris

Happy news and being a Westmount girl adds to the charm of the pick. Impressive lady and immediately a massive step up from Hillary and that limpy Tim Kaine. Just imagine a debate between her and the grovelling excuse for a VP currently in the office.

Bravo, Joe.

Thanks, BEG.....nice to see JT mentioned. I think of him often - especially when the Leafs have another fall...note though that Brendan Shanahan is 6 ft 2. Always take an inch or two from all listed NHL heights!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: TV Series

The tv series is called ‘Guilt’.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: the same of whine ...

Fred: Gotta give the Leafs couple more years. They're rebuilding.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Tkachuk....

JT would have loved this new song from Joseph Arthur. He told me that I turned him onto JA. I really liked how open he was to younger artists and would easily applaud them in his posts. He was a physician who taught medical students as well. Meeting him I knew he was out there as he was so loud just being goofy.....standing in front of me in line to see Robbie....not knowing at the time that he was the JT whose father was one of the owners of the Concord Tavern!!

I'm riding on the streetcar
Without you
Lately I've been wondering
What I'm even holding onto
But if I could change things
Baby, you'd still be the one
Sometimes I hear you whisper in the wind

We've only just begun
Yeah-yeah yeah-yeah
We've only just begun
Yeah-yeah yeah-yeah-yeah


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Apricots. Figs, Cherries, Mulberries

Levon and Dr. John

We beat Yannis with Kawahi. So....If The Clippers can't beat the Bucks with Paul George....Yay Montreal's Chris Boucher 25 points!

One year one of my grade two students every morning would check out the + and - of each hockey player. Math was his fave subject. On the darker side...Whenever he thought he made a mistake....He would bang his head against the wall....In general boyzzz would act out their anger whereas girls would internalize it and become depressed.

My brother always referred to the Maple Leafs as the Maple Loafs. Imagine four players earn what 17 players from the opposing team earn in a year. Hmmmmm...In my opinion....Shanahan needs to look in the mirror and see himself many years ago as a player for the St. Louis Blues. Ok not everyone can be 6'4'' but.....He was a power forward who had a strong skill set and who could rough it up if need be and play with passion and pride. Find players like yourself Brendan and no more shenanigans please! So for now I'm cheering for all the remaining Canadian hockey teams and then we'll see who remains if anyone. Every time I see Tzuk from Calgary Flames I can't help think about his father and Roenick....Two American players who had great skill sets and who were feisty on the ice. I really enjoyed Chris Chelios as well...Uhhh I think he was trained in northern Ontario? In honour of him while at the O'Hare Airport I had some Chili.


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Posted by:

Jed

No Giannis easy win for Raps.


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Posted by:

MWLOOK180

Location: Maine

Subject: Detective Series

Hello, A few months ago there was discussion of a Scottish detective series that included references to Rick Danko. Does anybody remember the name of the series and if it is available in the U.S.? Thanks in advance for the help.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: The Song Remains the Same

In this topsy-turvy time of pandemic, social strife, people making ham-fisted attempts at altering song lyrics, it's nice to know that some things haven't changed:

The Maple Leafs and their post-season woes continue. : )


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Posted by:

Kenny Ray

Location: Los Angeles

Subject: The Band

All about the Band. didn't know there was a website analyzing Ferdinand, but it was so thorough i had to see if any other songs got the treatment. oh yeah, Go Lakers, even though they suck at the moment


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

A Few Fine Pop Songs
Immersed in History
Music that connects to history and/or historical myth.
Bob Frost
HistoryAccess.com
2010

Jed...Yes another test for sure. Very difficult situation as we don't even have one superstar. The teams who usually excel have at least two. So Glad the Warriors have come down to earth. Another lesson Kawhi taught the team....one hopes....Never get too high when you're up. Never get too down when you're down....keep an even keel....I did not know that Kawhi wanted the Raps to trade Spicey P and bring in Paul George. I did know that my so called friend Drake lent his Bridal Path home to Paul and Kawhi to make things happen. I like Damian Lillard's feistiness and confidence....He's having a beef with Paul George at the moment. Anyway, I am not rooting for the Clippers if they make it to the finals or Lebron's team if they make it....If the Raps surprise everyone....I will give up ???? My life right now is scheduled around basketball.

The Universe always brings people into our lives to teach us life lessons....

I see that Early James has a song called "Blue Pill Blues"....I had to look it up....could be either Valium or Viagara!


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG-Raps

Huge game today against the Bucks/Greek Freak. This is one of the teams trying to prevent a Raps repeat. I think they have very obvious flaws-sitting ducks for Nick Nurse’s creative mind. But who knows? Hoops always brings surprises. The Clips,Lakers are also gonna be tough if the Raps get to the championship.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Bah. Wasn't it only the English man who called it a sheep? In the subset of songs that rhyme 'lake' and 'snake', I'll go with TMSO.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: No Central Air

Wild Geese

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting 
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.

Mary Oliver
Dream Work
Grove Atlantic Inc.
1986
New and Selected Poems, Beacon Press
1992.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Lemon Yogurt with Organic Dried Cranberries Organic Blueberries Walnuts

"On August 20, 1979, Bob Dylan dropped "Slow Train Coming" on which there was a song, "Man Gave Names to All the Animals." The song was not an allegory; it had no deep, hidden meaning. It simply told of man walking along, observing animals, and naming them."

Next animal that he did meet
Had wool on his back and hooves on his feet
Eating grass on a mountainside so steep
“Ah, think I’ll call it a sheep”

Man gave names to all the animals
In the beginning, in the beginning
Man gave names to all the animals
In the beginning, long time ago

He saw an animal as smooth as glass
Slithering his way through the grass
Saw him disappear by a tree near a lake . . .

I taught Dylan's Man (People) Gave Names To All The Animals to the kidzzz. Good rhyming song that takes you on a journey and then at the end......You decide. I wish I wasn't so hard headed and dogmatic at times...and attended Dylan's concert at Massey Hall in 1979/80. I was a staunch atheist then.

“Is man merely a mistake of God? Or God merely a mistake of man or from my political philosophy class....I remember it as....

Did God create man (people)
Or did man (people) create God?
Nietzsche


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Ha ha, Yes Jon L, I kind of slid that way down in my post to see if anyone was reading my gibberish!

Agreed, cattle and rattle doesn't bother me that much, and since it came from the original songwriter, it's not even a fair comparison for me to make. Robbie should get all the creative liberty that he wants, since it's an original song, and not a re-write. Also, he probably knew that Rick Danko would be the guy to pull it off.
I considered using snake and lake from 'The Moon Struck One' as a rhyming example, but well.....umm....decided not to.



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Posted by:

Jon L

Ack! Meant for you, Todd. Sorry.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Kevin, 'cattle and rattle' are Shakespeare compared to this new stuff. ;)


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

BEG, thanks for posting that article from the Saving Country Music website. Pretty well balanced and makes some salient points, and reinforces much of what Pat B. offered in his excellent analysis of TNTDODD.

I will retract "some" of my earlier criticism of Early James song mangling. I had taken issue with some of his lyrical choices, as they were reported in the original Rolling Stone article. Particularly with his substitution of "Mud" with "Earth", and other clunky sounding choices. It didn't even seem particularly singable. But that may be explained by inaccurate reporting on the part of Rolling Stone, as a more recent article has slightly different lyrics.

This is how some of the new lyrics were reported in the original August 4th Rolling Stone article by Joseph Hudak

"Depraved and powered to enslave
I think it’s time we laid hate in its grave
I swear by the earth beneath my feet
monument won’t stand no matter how much concrete”

This is how they were reported in the follow-up article that John D posted about. This is from the August 6th Rolling Stone article by Simon Vozick-Levinson. The one titled, "Can ‘The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down’ Be Redeemed?"

"Depraved and powered to enslave
I think it’s time we laid hate in its grave
I swear by the mud below my feet
That monument won’t stand, no matter how much concrete"

Those lyrics, although very similar, at least make musical sense, stay closer to the original meter, and keep "Mud"in the equation. Feet and concrete is still a little clumsy, but I'll give him a pass on that. After all we've been living with cattle and rattle all of these years, so we can't always expect perfection, right? ;-)

On balance, I don't begrudge Early James as much as I do Rolling Stone. I get what Mr. James was trying to do by making a statement about his and his father's history growing up in the South, and tying it into current events. I don't think he was necessarily insinuating that the original song was inherently racist, or pro-confederacy. I think he was just using the song and and the opprtunity as his vehicle. But, perhaps a 'The Last Waltz' tribute wasn't the appropriate place to make that statement.

I think the real faux pas is on the part of Rolling Stone, in one article about lyric changes where they misreport the lyrics, and then in a follow-up article, making things worse by casting the original song as something that was inherently racist, or in need of redemption. It's obvious that the writer of the second article either didn't give much though to the meaning of the original song, or was so blinded by his agenda, that he found anyway possible to shoehorn the song into fitting some preconceived notion.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

August 8, 2020
‘The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down’ Needs No Redemption
Trigger Random Notes 86 Comments

I haven't read the article or comments as I'm watching The Raps....

Kevin J... :-D

Jed... :-D

Congrats to The Habs!! I'm actually cheering for all the Canadian Hockey teams and then first choice would be The Leafs and second The Habs in honour of my mother.

If there wasn't any rain there wouldn't be any rainbows.
Unknown


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Posted by:

Bill M

Good attempt at an RS post, Pat B; it's unbelievable that they would declare both it and you unworthy. Re the duality reflected by the 'na na' and 'la la' factions in the choruses, I don't think there's a need move outside the south - the fault line being not north-south but racial. I was going to use the term 'African-American', but realised that I have no idea when US citizenship was bestowed on former slaves, whether newly freed or long freed.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Nice thoughts Kevin. I'm struck how that Robbie quote could also be talking about Straight Down The Line.


Entered at Sun Aug 9 19:45:09 CEST 2020 from (24.114.70.179)

Posted by:

Kevin J

Thanks for the nod in that direction, Ben. I just spent a pleasant time re-reading a number of those articles on Band songs that Peter V put together. The one quote from Robbie that has always stuck with me was when he was talking about writing the song Rockin Chair:

“ Most people are knocked out by younger people. I'm knocked out by older people. Just look at their eyes. Hear them talk. They're not joking. They've seen things you'll never see.”

It is striking how this contrasts with the type of “woe is me” attitude of the Early James types that can look at art and only see themselves rather than the story it may be telling.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

For anyone interested in a detailed article about Dixie, There's a wonderful one in the Library section of this site written by Peter Viney with contributions by Pat and some other gb'ers and relevant quotes by Robbie, Levon, Taplin, Greil Marcus and others.

I don't think I would have had nearly as strong a reaction if someone had altered any other Band song, 'Rag mama rag', 'Up On Cripple creek', 'Chest fever', 'Ophelia'.... No problem. But Dixie is another matter altogether. It is a precisely written song mixing historical references with a fictional narrator. When one starts altering the lyrics in this manner, it destroys the song and makes it a jumbled mess. I don't know Early James from a hole in the ground, but after reading the RS article about him, he seems astonishingly ignorant about the references in and the meaning of the song.

Jed, interesting comments about doctors. My elderly parents live me and I have taken them to many medical appointments with a variety of doctors and find many of them to be unhelpful and contradictory. The worst I have found are neurologists. In my experience if you see three neuroligists you will get 5 or 6 different opinions, and these doctors aren't even Jewish! (that's a joke). So, I am not very impressed by many of the doctors I have been coming into contact with for the last several years.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat B

By the way Pat, that was to read First RATE article.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Rolling Stone? Hunter S. Thompson will be rolling in his grave.


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Posted by:

Jed

Lisa-it would take a book(I’m thinking of writing it) And it’ll take a lot of particular research to turn the massive cruise ship around.(actively involved in doing that) all I can say is it’s been effecting quality of patient care for years. What people learn in school they tend to repeat in practice and if it’s bad stuff in(in certain areas in particular)it gonna be bad stuff out.The USA is a model of horrific healthcare-rather odd given its massive university and medical school system. There ya go-back to the beginning-school.


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Posted by:

Lisa

It's a crazy world we live in - what's been going on in colleges over the last couple years really makes you shake your head and wonder when people are going to come to their senses again, but what's going on in medical schools, Jed? That sounds ominous ...

Pat, I haven't read Rolling Stone in years, but when did they get so reactionary? I can't believe they banned you! Is there another outlet you can post to provide some background? I really have a hard time fathoming the reasoning behind this current ignorant interpretation of Robbie's lyrics. Like I said, just nuts.


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Posted by:

Ben

Pat, It's really outrageous that RS wouldn't allow you to post your rebuttal to their article and then blocked you. Have you thought about forwarding it to Jonathan Taplin?

This whole unfortunate incident makes me think about the statement Taplin made about hearing Dixie for the first time in 1969 and getting an entirely new perspective on the South and the civil war.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Pat

That’s what you get for going overboard! I’m kidding! Actually Pat it figures they’d ban anyone who disagrees-if you’d spoken your opinion it may have led to some folks needing a safe room to be protected from your point of view. Colleges have become even more screwed up. It could be worse-you should see what’s going on in our medical schools. Downright scary.


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Posted by:

Jed

I never went overboard and attacked alot of people here,Kevin. Why are some here permitted to express disagreements strongly and others not? Particularly when I err I apologize or offer clarification. The only person I “attacked”(and will continue to do so if he maintains his never ending attack on dead people)was the one snake lying in wait. That attack will take the form of strong personal disagreement. If that’s overboard so be it. And BEG you are correct that I don’t think Kevin is a pit bull but he was out of line and incorrect. In the scheme of things this is all meaningless and Kevin,no hard feelings-merely a clarification of things! Hope you all have been tuning in to Jorma’s quarantine concerts-tonight is week 17. What a delightful series of music and stories! And there haven’t been any crazy ass lyric alterations either! LOL


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Posted by:

Pat B

As an entertaining update, Rolling Stone not only blocked what I posted here on their site, they have banned me from posting anything.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Little Criminals

The album has Eagles all over it … the two most memorable tracks were Short People and Baltimore but the album holds up as a whole. I like Jolly Coppers on Parade. Actually, I like all Randy Newman.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Subject: Organic Wild Blueberries

Jed...One time you showed empathy when I shared some personal info....very Joni Mitchellish. I annot tell you how much it meant to me. When I go overboard at times.....It only really bothers me when it is actually the truth. Kevin is not a pit bull. One time he told one of his pit bull friends that they were going overboard in their personal attacks towards me. You were triggered the way I am when people say the same about me. If I am making things worse...I am giving up and going on a GB strike. I am alsp giving up dark chocolate until we go back to a place we all look forward to hanging out. Just sayin' ;-D

Pat B...After the Raps were blown out yesterday...Many thanks for sharing your world with us. So great to see you in action. It was also so good to see Cathy Richardson many years later as you know....I saw her in NYC in Love Janis.

Toronto Maple Leafs... :-D


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Jed......If you had only waited until I had gone overboard, I would have recognized the joke and accepted it.....anyhow, I didn’t think I had mocked you earlier and sorry if you were hurt by that. I had just felt you had tarred a lot of people here with a broad brush with that one post and it rankled a bit. Anyhow, all is good. Just ordered “Breslin and Hamill: Deadline Artists” and the Habs are moving on.....life is ok in this lockdown world.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Randy Newman

I thought Short People dipped a bit in quality. But those 3 before that: 12 Songs, Sail Away and Good Ol’ Boys remain brilliant. I’ve never stopped listening and I think they have held up completely, to this day. Those years with RN, Dylan, L Cohen, Van, Paul Simon, Joni Mitchell, John Prine, T Waits, etc were just standout for so many writers. I’m trying not to be the old guy talking about the good old days, but longevity is a marker of timeless quality.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Overboard

Kevin missed my point. “Overboard” was referenced after you mocked me. I merely sent the ball back over the net towards you as a joke and you took it seriously. Whew...this place can get stiff and uptight sometimes.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Randy Newman

First great article Pat. I've had the pleasure of interviewing Randy Newman a number of times. It's interesting to me, more sad than interesting, that some politically correct people just don't get his whit and intelligence. However Randy said he just can't perform Rednecks anymore. Some people think it's racist. Ridiculous! Don't think anyone sees his humour in Short People anymore. Sad times we live in. Although we can't get back to the 70's I guess. Covid 19 is bad enough.


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

When I read about Early James and his rewrite of Dixie, my first reaction was "I thought they'd be coming for Monty Python next, but they got to Dixie first." I think the Band's original performance will outlive this current rewrite, but for curiosity's sake I'll probably see if I can hear this one. I'd like to know if these clunky, tin-eared new lyrics could flow, even a little bit, as a performance. Seems unlikely. I liked the responses I found here.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

Thanks for the kind words. Ben, it's a mitzvah.

On a slightly related note, in one hour Ravinia will broadcast a Janis Joplin special honoring the 50 year anniversary of her concert there. It features the fabulous Cathy Richardson in performance. I played piano in the backup group and was interviewed.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Superb summary, Pat.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Yep, great rebuttal Pat. I'm similarly bewildered by the weird framing of the article, like the song is so offensive and controversial that we've all been somehow wrestling with its content for 50 years. Can't figure out how even a superficial reading of it gets you there.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Mazel tov, Pat! Can you submit that powerful rebuttal to RS. I'm too young to remember when RS was a relevant magazine. My rock mag of choice when I was a budding young music fan was Creem, which I understand is the subject of a new documentary.

I'm glad that you released your wonderful version of Dixie before this mishegas regarding the song broke out.

Norm, I'm not that familiar with Coe's work. I know that he wrote some country standards in the 70's that were made famous by others 'Lay you down in a field of stone' and 'Take this job and shove it'. I'll try to dig out the Tosches book and read up on him.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Brilliant, Pat. Imagine if Rolling Stone published this. There was a time when this was exactly the type of article that would be published. Back when magazines dedicated to rock music employed writers like Lester Bangs, Mikal Gilmore and Pete Hamill.

I keep thinking about Ben’s point on Robbie’s age when he wrote this. Wisdom came early to him.

...and to think some here think reactions to this attack on a Band classic is an example of going overboard. Yeah, sure.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I wrote this response on FB to the article John D posted.

"A vehicle for a harmful, racist myth." Exactly what part of the song is a harmful myth?

1st verse: VC is a soldier assigned to protect the Richmond-Danville train line. He's starving. The war ends. He remembers it well.

Chorus: The war ends. Bells ring. Joy in the North. Despair in the South. People sing. Joy in the North. Despair in the South.

2nd verse: War is over. VC home in TN on his dirt farm. His wife thinks she sees Robert E. Lee. An aside: Lee never went to TN after the war. However people all over the South thought they saw him, a type of mass hysteria. VC bemoans that folks are taking more than they need in the impoverished South and hints that the "best" has been taken from him.

3rd verse: He's a farmer like his father. His 18 yo brother died in the war (the "best"). He swears he and his family can't be "raised up" from defeat.

This song literally strips all the bullshit away from discussions about the Civil War and deals directly with the crushing loss to the poor dirt farmers who got caught up in the terrible flood of history. It also very intelligently describes the duality of the end of the war. Exultant victory bells and joyous songs in the North, funereal bells and grief in the South. Not one word in this song promulgates a harmful myth.

What part is racist? Because he's southern? This makes no sense. Tens of thousands of racist Northern whites volunteered to destroy the Confederacy even though freeing slaves was the last thing on their minds. They fought to preserve the Union, and ending slavery wasn't an official war aim until early 1863, almost two years in. In the same way, tens of thousands of poor white farmers fought for the Confederacy to defend their home states from what they perceived to be an invasion.

The re-write by Early James is laughable. It's entirely about him and his racist father. Was VC "depraved and powered to enslave"? Did VC not "understand" his father? No to both. Early James' father was, however, so James distorts the song to place himself in VC's shoes for dramatic effect. Great. As long as he was violating history and art, why didn't James re-write the whole song while he was at it? I can help.

Master Caine is my name and I whip my slaves with bark wood

I take the women every night 'cause brown sugar tastes so good

Ironic, right? Let's see if Early gets invited to a Rolling Stones tribute.

Robertson has been telling that exact same story about the origins of the song for decades, as has Jon Taplin. The writer of the article is absolutely full of shit to say that quote shows a "distancing." What tripe.

Finally, "an elegy for the Lost Cause." Sorry, the writer similarly has no idea what the "Lost Cause" is, and VC is certainly not the embodiment of it.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Jed: I'm pretty sure it was 1971.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Rednecks and Slavers

Ben considering the redneck songs you have listed you need to add to it David Allen Coe's "My Long Hair Just don't Cover up my Redneck". When we were talking a while back about Nick Tosches book "Country the Biggest Music in America" the red neck attitudes and songs are today not that far removed.

I think one of the most important displays of the slave trade were in Speilberg's movie La Amistad. He has a history of trying to make every scene as bloody realistic as possible and they were. Not a movie that a lot of Americans would cherish. One of the greatest scenes and very long dialogue I was amazed at Anthony Hopkins portrayal of John Quincey Adams. At the end of the movie when the English ship was bombing and destroying the Slave holding pits at Seirra Leone it was a gratifying feeling and would have been wonderful if that was the end of it.........excuse all the spelling mistakes.


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Posted by:

Dan

Gosh, these folks who want to cancel or excommunicate almost never grasp or respect historical context: need only know that The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down was covered by Ritchie Havens. If one really wishes to advance society and learn about history and human nature, make sure that Frederick Douglas's Narrative of a Slave is included in every high school and college curriculum. Robbie Robertson's upcoming soundtrack is based upon a book showing what happened to Native Americans in Oklahoma in the 1920s and also illustrates human nature if left unchecked. I am continually amazed about the lack of attention to history. In Sanford, Florida (just north of Orlando) the middle school displays some African Americans but does not include Jackie Robinson who braved death threats to first integrate MLB baseball 5 minutes away from the school.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Peter V

You are spot on about TNTDODD & about the longstanding demise of Rolling Stone.It's hard to recall when RS was last musically relevant or even interesting.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: RIP Wayne Fontana

Link to his cover of Major Lance's Um Um Um Um Um Um. A very creditable British cover version.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Sade, The Abyssinians - Slave Song (Lovers Live)

[Bridge]
The tears run swift and
Hard and cold as pain
Even, even the comfort of a stone would be a gain
Had I not had the strength and wisdom of a warrior
I would have to give up
But I´m thankful that I´m
Strong as I am and I´ll
Try to do the best I can

[Pre Chorus]
Tears will run swift
And tears will come that fall like rain
I pray that it´s swift though
Tears will fall as cold as pain

[Chorus]
I pray to the almighty
Let us not do as he has unto us
Teach my beloved children I´ve been a slave
But reach for the light continually


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Posted by:

Peter V

Ah, a quick google reveals Early James new lirric (sic) for Sail Away:

In America you’ll find cops who beat

It’s nothing like Africa

Though you’ll feel the heat

You’ll just pick cotton and get raped all day

It’s shameful to be an American

Come away Come away

We will knock down the statues in Charleston Bay


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Sail Away- Etta James

I had this idea of a slave ship and a sea shanty – this guy standing in a clearing, singing to a crowd of natives. These people in my songs don’t know they’re bad. They think they’re fine. I didn’t just want to say, 'Slavery is awful.' It’s too easy. I wasn’t doing 'Roots'. I knew Bobby Darin pretty well. He covered this [in 1972], but he was such a musical guy that he missed the point. He was like, 'Little one, come to America.'

Etta James did it, and I guarantee she knew what it was about, absolutely." -Randy Newman


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'll tell you what, if Early James has a go at Randy Newman's Short People, even his poetic girlfriend may be in trouble with getting 'vertically challenged' into the meter.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Bulldozing Dixie

I hadn't heard of Early James before yesterday and this incident with Dixie. I read the RS article and all I can say is I don't agree with their proposition that Dixie needs to be redeemed. Dixie was written during the anti Vietnam, Civil Rights movement in the late 60's.

It is an anti-war song as Peter pointed out in his spot on assessment. Just think, Robbie wrote the actual song at 25 or 26 which is the same age that this guy altered the lyrics in a clunky, fat fingered, kneejerk fashion.

I enjoy topical songs as much as the next guy, Woody Guthrie, Dylan, Phil Ochs, Billy Bragg were masters at this, Early James, by the example of his skewering of Dixie, clearly is not and should forego the topical material and try some 'moon, june' stuff for awhile.

Good comments about Randy Newman, 'Sail away' and 'Rednecks' I guess are in danger of being banned or re-written next...we're rednecks, rednecks, we don't know our ass from a hole in the ground... I wonder what Early and his girlfriend can do with that one.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen. Probably.

Subject: Peter V's two previous post on slavery.

Thanks Peter. I got your point. - Unfortunately, eve of destruction is waiting for us. At least for us in EU. (BTW 'Eve Of Destruction' still gets me going, as well as 'Are you Going To San Francisco')


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Posted by:

Peter V

Further on that, it follows the kneejerk thought that “All” Southerners are responsible for slavery. The argument adds “All Americans” “All Britons” “All white people.”

I’ll put a paragraph from the article I did on Statues.

I’ll repeat an incident. A West African guy told me that he was descended from a family of chiefs. Later in the conversation, he asked why Britain didn’t compensate Africa for slave trading. I pointed out that if his ancestors were chiefs in West Africa, they were almost certainly slave traders. (Capturing slaves. Selling slaves to Arab wholesalers to transport to the sea where British, American, Spanish, Portuguese ships bought them). My rural poor ancestors, well inland in Dorset had nothing to do with it and if they were foolish enough to poach a rabbit they might be “transported to the colonies” for seven years which was basically slavery, except it had an end point.

This was also a major thing in Ireland and Scotland. I’ll add today that if they were transported to America, they’d have served out their indenture period, then moved west if they could and started small farms. Virgil Kane. There’s a whole thing on Scots-Irish music and the Appalachians we could go into here.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Some good points. Randy Newman … Sail Away … is a brilliant song about slavery. Would some cretin want to change the lyrics?

All Quiet on The Western Front was in my mind too. We can empathize with the German soldier, even if our grandparents were on the opposite side.

Every time I see a Rolling Stone article I shake my head about how far it has fallen since its heyday. This Early James guy is unfortunately terminally dumb, totally lacking in any sense of irony, or that opinions can be nothing other than sledgehammer PC. :

Depraved and powered to enslave

I think it’s time we laid hate in its grave

Feet … concrete?

I would say he knows f*ck all about history too. I won't go into the division of Tennessee between slaveholders and small farmers, like Virgil Kane. Who thinks Virgil's forbears were "depraved and empowered to enslave"? They fought for their state, and I don't think those "dirt farmers" would have identified with slaveholders in mansions. It's another reason why his wife says "There goes Robert E. Lee" and it's NOT the paddle boat, because along the river were slave plantations. I see Virgil up in the hills.

He says he wrote it with his girlfriend who is a costume designer. So I look at his photo with standard denim jacket and jeans. She’s no better as a costume designer than she is as a lyricist, then. And who holds a nice Gibson acoustic over a studded belt? I told he was dumb.


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Posted by:

BWNWILos Angeles

This is the first I'm hearing about the Early James version of "Dixie." I have to say, it doesn't bother me as much as it seems to the rest of you. Yes, the lyrics are totally clunky. But it doesn't strike me as trying to make the song PC but rather to make it topical. I think it's somewhat interesting in that it seems to be trying to recast the song as a celebration of the present-day successes at removing the vestiges of Confederate ideology (the night they finally drove old Dixie completely down being last week, perhaps), instead of its original intent of (I think) lamenting the lost culture (not ideology) of the antebellum south. It's making the song a celebration of finally getting the confederate battle flag off of the Mississippi state flag, for example. The lyrics aren't very good, but it strikes me as a clever way of flipping the song on its head. I don't hear it as a "Lady A" change because the original song is now offensive.

But it was also, apparently, just a lyric change at a concert. That makes it of less significance to me than if he'd, say, released it as a single. It seems like a somewhat easy way to get a roar from the crowd, and not much more than that. Like when Garth Brooks sings his stupid "lost verse" to "Friends in Low Places." The consternation seems a bit of much ado about almost nothing, to me.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

A kind offer, Mike, I’ll e mail you. Upto my neck in football this week. Rushing out.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I agree with Rod that the voices of the vanquished should be heard - maybe not because they lost but certainly because they were involved, in many cases involuntarily. TNTDODD has always reminded me of "All Quiet on the Western Front", where you can't help but feel for the lowly soldiers who who are conscripted and have no say in anything. It's possible to hate war in general, and causes specifically, but still recognise various admirable qualities in the warriors, especially those in the trenches. On another note, but still with TNTDODD, I continue to hear the mixture of 'la la la' and 'na na na' intended to make the point that while many southerners were sad that the war ended the way it did, millions of others were elated beyond words.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Wallsend, you are correct but I can't find it.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Pat, a while back Dag B posted an article containing an interview with Levon I hadn't seen before in which he walked back quite a bit of his book's content. That may be the one you are thinking of.


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Posted by:

Rod

BEG, Randy Newman's Rednecks is another song whose irony not every one may get. I think TNTDODD has suffered in the same way (not that it's ironic) with people not understanding the lyrics or the sentiment. The voice of the vanquished deserves to be heard.


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Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, thanks. There was one where Levon said the co-author made him out to be angrier than he was to sell books.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"Well, I hope Neil Young will remember a southern man don't need him around anyhow"

Thanks to Neil Young, Lynyrd Skynyrd was inspired to write the song "Sweet Home Alabama".

Without Young's songs that were so critical of the South's segregationist and racist attitudes for inspiration, it is doubtful that the band would have produced a song with such a long lasting duration that continues to sell well 30 years after its release.

But the ultimate irony of "Sweet Home Alabama" is that for so many, the song's implied put down of Neil Young was NOT meant as criticism but as support of Young's anti-racism. Thus, for those who think it's so clever to put down Neil Young using the phrase "Hope Neil Young will remember, a southern man don't need him around anyhow" little do they realize that they have the meaning backwards. Every day, someone blogs or tweets the "Neil Young putdown" without comprehending that they've actually praised him. (Or even make implied death threats (note caption).) Similarly, with the State of Alabama using the phrase "Sweet Home Alabama" as an official slogan on license plates, one truly has to wonder what they were thinking the song was about.

Somewhere, Ronnie is still having a good laugh at Alabama officials and Neil Young bashers. Such is the duality of the southern thing.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: NY

Subject: Can TNTDODD be Redeemed?

First of all, I do support BLM and want all Americans to be treated fairly. When the protests started this summer over the killing of George Floyd, it became evident that symbols of racial injustice were being identified and eliminated. Not only the confederate statues but also nicknames like the Washington Redskins football team. A sea change was underway.

At that time, my wife, a huge Band fan, asked if there was ever any backlash regarding TNTDODD. I sent her the link on this site where critics discussed the song over the years.

My own sense of the lyrics and their intent was to support a working man caught up in a life and death struggle. For me, it felt like that RR was identifying the anguish of the common man trying to live through an impossible situation. For me, and only me, the lyrics cry to the tragedy of the South's political and cultural choices, which were depraved and untenable.

Again, for me, there is no need to make the lyrics crystal clear, its already there if you take the time to look. joe


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pat B...And the manuscript from that 1993 interview with Levon.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Hi Pat. Try this interview. It was definitely in 1993 but the actual visual interview in 1993 I haven't been able to locate again.

NOVEMBER 16, 1993
Musician Levon Helm.

"Drummer and lead vocalist for the rock group The Band, Levon Helm. Helm's Arkansas roots gave the Canadian group an American folk sound. In the 1960's The Band, got it's start backing Bob Dylan. They went on their own in 1968 with "Music From Big Pink." The Band is back with a new album, "Jericho," and a tour. Helm's written a book about The Band called "This Wheel's On Fire" (Morrow)."


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Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, I've lost the source on the article where Levon walks back some of his anger in his book. I know you posted it earlier. Could you (or anyone) post it again? Thanks.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Can TNTDODD be Redeemed?

From the pages of Rolling Stone. Comments?


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Posted by:

Lisa

I listened to Summertime, Norm. I thought it was lovely. Special song ...


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Smooth Sailin'

Thanks for the reply Jed. I am of the same mind as you with some of this younger generation that gets "promoted" into being something they are not. But that has always been the way hasn't it.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Norm 2

BTW,you are correct-I am uninformed on a lot of stuff including a lot of stuff smart people around here discuss.Generally,I come here to learn stuff from very informed people.But when it comes to guitar players, past and present,I think I'm pretty informed.We just may have different opinions.But it's fun to learn from you too.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Norm

You make some excellent points.I shouldn't disparage all the young talent. Taj,you are correct,is a huge talent.We differ(thanks BEG-i love Winwood!) on Marcus King who is more of a mini Warren Haynes and with less versatility.But why is he in the mainstream, at least as a blues player? Perhaps what i should have emphasized is that certain people are promoted as the next big thing on guitar or in the blues who may be the wrong people, musically,to promote.Taj is not out there and promoted as a blues "king" whereas Gary Clark jr. is promoted as the next blues great.Taj is a talent and Gary is a distortionist who plays 2-3 chords and is a very limited lead player.I still recall hearing Derek Trucks when he was 10 and the amazement of it all.And think of guys like Jack Pearson who's older, ignored and displaced by the next big thing.But it's still difficult for any new guitarist to approach the levels of Jimi,Duane,Dickey,Harrison,Clapton,B.B.,Albert King,Buddy Guy,Mike Bloomfield,Robbie,Jeff Beck,etc.These 50's-70's guitarists set the bar quite high.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Pickin!

Taj Farrant plays Stevei Ray Vaughn's "Lenny"


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Uninformed??

Jed, I of course can't speak to your knowledge or research of some of these young up and coming musicians however I can for myself. When I see some one who impresses me I like to know all about them.

Marcus King for example. His grandfather was a blues man his entire life. There is a youtube video where Marcus King explains the red "355" Gibson he plays that his grand father played for years and when he was satisfied that Marcus had earned it he gave him that guitar. Marcus father another great musician. Marcus King is earning his bones as many do.

Billy Strings is another. I just linked a video of Billy and Marcus in a guitar store playing "Summertime" together. It seems no one bothers to watch. So don't say they are not particulary good guitar players. I am not but I've played with many greats. These guys are great. A video of Billy Strings playing a duo with a now aging Bela Fleck where they play blistering licks that are true and precise. Tommy Emmanual probably Australia's greatest guitarist who played with Chet Atkins and many of the greats "cutting heads" with Billy Strings.

I put up a video the other day of Carlos Santana and a 10 year old boy from Australia "Taj Farrant". you need to listen to this boy play. They call him the reincarnation of Stevie Ray Vaugh.

It doesn't do to say none of these young folks have the talent of our aging heros............that is nonsense.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Kevin

going overboard never helps and you seem to be doing a lot,etc etc. Sound familiar? LOL!


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: TNTDODD

Here is a comment from YouTube (from a Joan Baez performance of TNTDODD as it turns out). I don't know if it's cool to cut and paste the whole thing here, but it's from a poster named Roli G. I think it's a fair interpretation and a good analysis.

"A good song about the misery of war from the point of view of poor young working man (a small farmer at most, not a plantation owner) who got caught up in it. There is no reason to dislike this song. Like so many good songs, poems, works of art, it calls forth empathy. You may not want to feel sympathy for a Confederate soldier who has lost his world, a world founded on the worst part of ourselves; you may think that he should not have been moved by his teenage brother's death to fight the enemy who killed his brother; you may think he should have taken a moment and thought critically about the evil institution he was defending, questioned the values that underlay his home, family, way of life, but he didn't. He didn't have that moment. He was swept up in passion, loss, and pain. This song asks us to respond to that pain. It does not celebrate the Confederate cause; it does not deny the injustice and cruelty of slavery, or the pain of the enslaved. If the song makes us uncomfortable because it compels us to empathize with a young man who represents something we abhor (as well as things we love, like family, home, loyalty, tradition), then it does something important: it makes us confront the complexity of being human."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"It’s from this that we create beautiful things, that 1+1=3, and that we learn and are exposed to new perspectives. And if this is occasionally done in poor taste or obscenely profitable, well, that’s what we have income tax for. (Elvis, for what it’s worth, paid a tax rate as high as 94% for most of his glory days. One hopes that the profits from Joan Baez’s terrible cover of Dixie went straight to Uncle Sam.)

A music critic would say of “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down” that,

“It is hard for me to comprehend how any Northerner, raised on a very different war than Virgil Kane’s, could listen to this song without finding himself changed. You can’t get out from under the singer’s truth—not the whole truth, but his truth—and the little autobiography closes the gap between us.”

That’s what cultural appropriation is uniquely suited to do. And that’s what we need lots more of. For all issues. Every cause and every community deserves something as good as “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,”—deserves lots of them. Because it’s a wonderful way to close gaps and create empathy, even for people you might not otherwise feel it for (a la people who fought for the South). It’s how we generate understanding and a new, better, shared culture.

If someone can capture the pain of the inner city and communicate it to the world in a way that changes people, if someone can articulate the subtle stabs of systemic oppression or violation, if someone can communicate the hopelessness of aging middle America, if someone can teach us what it feels like to be an outsider or how trauma stays with a person, who the hell cares who the person saying it is?

If they can do it, as the Canadian writer Hal Niedzviecki I mentioned earlier got himself in trouble for suggesting—if they can accomplish this impossible but important task of closing even the smallest of gaps via appropriation—we shouldn’t question their credentials, we should give them a prize."


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Ben, I believe it was Marcus King who hosted/presented The Last Waltz tribute that they did. It was "Early James", who changed the lyrics for the performance.

I have no problem with his social and political commentary, and when he speaks of "pissing off the right people", I think that's fine and dandy, and what an artist can and should do. I don't think that he means us (as fans of The Band) generally speaking.

I think most people here (including myself), who object to his recasting of the lyrics, object because it seems kind of ham-fisted and forced (at least the way it reads on the page). Maybe it sounds better when you hear it, which we haven't, but it doesn't seem as singable as the original, and seems like the meter is totally off with too many words forced into the line. And replacing "Mud" with "Earth" seems like an unnecessary substitution.

I suppose I appreciate Mr. James moxy and determination, and desire to make a change in this world, but I think his execution is a little lacking, in this instance. And when you're going to re-write a classic, the result needs to be as good or better than the original.

Beyond that, I'm not sure that he understand, that at its core, it is really kind of an anti-war song, and sad, as opposed to an anthem whose intent is to prop up slavery and oppression. Which I don't think is a fair characterization of the original song....But I was born and raised in the North and have lived here my entire life, so it's possible that I don't completely understand where he is coming from as a Southerner.

But I do feel that it's the execution of the idea, rather than the idea itself that falls short.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Up on the physically challenged creek she sends me, if I spring a leak she mends me, I don't have to speak, she defends me, an inebriated person's dream if I ever did see one.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Ben, I'm in complete agreement. I was boiling with anger. It's a cretinous change of lyric.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Norm, thanks for the clarification. Sorry, If I got a little hopped up over this, but it seems the latest and a very egregious example of Cancel culture run amok.


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Posted by:

Jed

There’s an odd phenomenon that we endure as music fans. In our hopes that the blues and/or R&R continue to exist we label certain people as young players continuing the established traditions in these genres. We then elevate their status beyond their talent level. Kenny Wayne Shepard,Johnny Lang,Marcus King, etc. . None of these guys are great blues men and none are particularly outstanding guitar players. Yet we all want Rock and blues to continue so the marketing machines churn these guys out and there is an effort to convince us they are great replacements for the greats we all saw in our youth.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Norm and b,lee, Look, I watched the playing for change Weight video which was excellent. I don't think that Marcus King's participation in that gives him the inside track to alter and politicize Dixie.

If he wants to make a political statement about confederate statues, he should do exactly that, make a political statement or write his own song, but he shouldn't hijack a Last Waltz tribute with this desecration.

And for the record, I'm a liberal Democrat, I hate Trump, I am Jew, and I abhor racism and intolerance, but that doesn't give Marcus king (or anyone else) the right to hijack Robbie's song. Just because this was done for a just cause doesn't make it an appropriate thing to do in my opinion.


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Posted by:

NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen. Probably.

Subject: Birthday / Pat Brennan / Chicago

Birthday greetings from NorthWestCoaster kin. Just Google ' Arttu Suuntala Chicago '.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: MK & EJ

Norm, thanks for the reminder about Marcus King and the PFC version of 'The Weight'. He's obviously a talented guy, and I'm thankful that he didn't change the words to 'The Weight'. He did a nice job with that.

But just as a point of clarification (and so Marcus King doesn't get a delivery of wet socks), I believe it was the singer/guitarist named "Early James", that chose to "update" the original version of TNTDODD.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Uninformed

Uninformed that's me. I've never even heard what y'all are fussin' over. I'm bettin' I wouldn't like it either. I'm just fuckin' with ya Ben. It's not even 7:30 am here yet so I'm thinking somebody pissed in yer cornflakes! ROTFLMAO


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Organic Strawberries (treat)

Take 2
Go "behind the song" with us as producer Sebastian Robertson, discusses making "The Weight" around the world along with featured musicians Lukas Nelson, Marcus King, Sherieta Lewis, Roselyn Williams and more.

Yeah Raps! Yeah Habs!


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Norm, the new verse is garbage. Period. It doesn't even make any sense as the monuments that he is railing about were put up decades after the civil war. It is a stupid, kneejerk thing to do in my opinion. Baez's butchering of the song is nothing compared to this.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Dixie

I'm less concerned by the act of temporarily messing with the lyrics, and more concerned by the fact that they are dreadful.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The young generation with dedication

Marcus King and Billy Strings always play with respect and dedication to whoever has gone before on the music they play.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Hold yer Horses Pilgrim "Yosemite Sam"

Ben are you out living in the bush?? Calm down for fuck's sake. You obviously haven't watched the "Playing for Change" video of "The Weight". Marcus King was chosen by Robbie and Sebastian to sing the first verse. He is a major player in blues and rock and roll along with Billie Strings.

So where does some yuppy dude from New Joisey get off yellin' down some of the good old boys from the south. I'm in total Agreement with Bass man Lee. More likely than naught Robbie awready knows about this so I think y'all better "BACK OFF RABBIT"!



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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Mud, Blood, Dixie, Statues and the Folk Process

Without having heard, only read, of the alteration of TNTDODD, which many here obviously regard as Holy Gospel, let us please take a step back. First off, that a group of 'next generation' Nashville folks revere The Band, its history and music enough to gather (perhaps not wisely) in these uncertain times and put on the show in the first place has to count for something. That us mostly old codgers here have not heard of Marcus King or Early James is of little import as we are not plugged into the current Nashville scene, are we.

That one of these young men might take advantage of the spotlight to inject a bit of current cultural/political statement by altering the Sacred Text just suggests that parts of the Canon, Dixie and The Weight at the least, have passed beyond mere songs created by one man and sung by one group of men at one point in time. They have become part of a larger shared musical heritage for many, and as such although not in the Public Domain (capital letters), are fair game in the Folk tradition of changing lyrics, borrowing tunes, satirizing or otherwise bending them in order to make a statement on current events. In American Colonial times I believe these were called Broadsides, created and widely distributed commentary on current events, even Horrors! to admonish and ridicule the King.

Some kudos, then to Mr. James, a Southern white man, to "take a stand" and express his support for the long needed reassessment of our history. Indeed while he may not have achieved his goal, "I hope we piss off the right people" he seems to have succeeded in getting some of y'alls panties in a bind.

BTW, the last time I saw Ms. Baez on the telly, whom I love dearly, she butchered it. Could Mr. James effort be as cringe-worthy?


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Dixie massacre

Who the hell is Marcus King to be desecrating Robbie's lyrics? I hadn't heard of him before yesterday. There's no justification for this awful alteration of the song. He has no artistic or moral right to do this. If he has an issue with the lyrics, he shouldn't perform the song. End of story.

It's just ignorance and knee jerk political correctness run amok. Does King even have a clue what the song is about? Does he think that Virgil is a racist plantation owner or a future klansman. It's just mindboggling. I hope that Robbie or his people take some action on this issue.

I support BLM, but there's no justification for fucking with the lyrics of a masterpiece. And if this desecration stands, will all works of music and literature dealing with the civil war and the South be fair game for revisionist editing and alterations?


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Posted by:

Peter V

The thoughts boil, so I've had to move from my phone to a proper keyboard to say more. Robbie is in an invidious position here.

If a bleach manufacturer re did the song as 'The bleach that removes your toilet's brown' as an advert, or MacDonalds did 'I drove into Nashville, feeling bout half past dead, I just need a Big Mac so I can stuff my head,' he could simply stop them. Just as artists have objected to their songs being used by politicians at rallies.

In this one, if he makes a fuss, he then draws the ire of the BLM crowd (well, the dumb elements of it) and would be held up as some kind of supremacist.

But I'm angry about it. I guess he could get the music publisher or Capitol to do the job for him, and that would be my choice in his place.

Advertisers wishing me to rewrite popular lyrics for them should apply with a large wad of used bills.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Due respect for General Lee

Isn’t that what Levon asked Robbie to do?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Joan Baez didn’t ‘change’ words. She misheard words and sang what she had guessed, not having the lyrics. She has said as much. When I saw her a few years ago, she sang the right words. It’s a different thing. No intent in ‘so much cavalry’ just poor knowledge of history and a guess.


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Posted by:

Rod

changing the lyrics to someone else's song to make some political point is not on. "Hey Mr A&R man go and write your own song"


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Posted by:

Bill M

Re the night they tore the statue down, I wouldn't give it another thought until you hear it again. Joan Baez changed a few words and nobody cared much besides those who already didn't like it for musical reasons.

Does "The Stones I Throw) Will Free All Men)" ever get mentioned in a BLM - or any other political - context?


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The Night They Drove A Great Song Down

Well, I haven't heard the recast version of TNTDODD yet, but based on the reports below, it seems like they went to a lot of trouble to avoid singing MUD (or even Blood if that's your flavor).

"I swear by the EARTH, beneath my feet"?.....That's just sad.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Ben....Spot on. To the extent that they felt it necessary to say anything in support of the “tear it down” movement ( which aspects of I can support ) then it would have been much better to just state a position and if they really understood and appreciated the perspective and artistic beauty of the song TNTDODD - to comment on the brilliance of the song and add for anyone who might be hearing for the first time the distinction between the rights and wrongs with any war and the poor young kids who always are the ones fighting and dying for reasons they know or care little about.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I think when Weird Al or the Barron Knights do it, they need permission. When it's a humorous skit, I don't think people care much. When it's a change of sense, they can object.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'm imagining a conversation between Levon and Mr King.

No, I think you can object to lyrics being altered, though not to musical arrangement changes. The changes are cretinous bilge.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Can you even do that, legally? Although I suppose Weird Al does it, so ... don't like it at all. They should write their own song.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Dixie

Kevin, I just read the RS article. I have real negative feelings about this. In my opinion, if anyone is going to alter the song, it should be Robbie, not Marcus King or Early James (whoever the hell that is). I think it would have been appropriate to say something before singing the song, but I don't think they should alter it with a new, poorly written verse.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Marcus King

Rolling Stone has a nice write-up on a recent concert by Marcus King and friends and how they put their own spin on The Last Waltz - including changing the lyrics to TNTDODD:

“Depraved and powered to enslave, I think it’s time we laid hate in its grave/I swear by the earth beneath my feet, monument won’t stand no matter how much concrete.“

hmmm..


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Posted by:

Pat B

Thanks to everyone for the birthday wishes--especially BEG.


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Posted by:

Jed

Surprise-happy birthday from a guy you least want best wishes. But nonetheless I wish you only a great day and many years of health and contentment.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: A day in the life.

PAT!!!!........Have you caught up to me yet??? Have a good one old kid.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Birthday boys

Happy Birthday Pat Brennan, and though he doesn't visit this site - to my brother-in-law Booker. "You say it's your birthday, well it's my birthday too; I'm glad it's your birthday, Happy Birthday to you!"


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York

Yup, happy birthday Pat!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

PAT BRENNAN'S HAPPY HEALTHY BIRTHDAY TODAY!!!

Adorable

Talented Musician, Writer, Historian, Debater, Father

Bodacious!!!

And when the house is empty
And the lights begin to fade
And there's nothin' to protect you
Except the window shade
And it's hard to put your finger
On the thing that scares you most
And you can't tell the difference
Between an angel and a ghost

Old friends
They shine like diamonds
Old friends
You can always call
Old friends
Lord, you can't buy 'em
You know it's old friends after all

Steve Earle & The Dukes - "Old Friends"
Featuring Rodney Crowell, Emmylou Harris, Jerry Jeff Walker, Terry Allen, Jo Harvey Allen
Songwriters: Guy Clark / Susanna Wallis Clark / Richard J Dobson

Sending love and positive vibes back to you on your special day!
:-D


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Posted by:

Pat B

BEG, I love you, but it's tomorrow.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: My eternal drive to downsize . . . (to be cont’d)

Hi, Dunc. I must try to get back to Scotland someday, although tempus is fugiting fast. My question to you: Might your grandson(s) be interested in a never-worn, preshrunk cotton T-shirt (made in Nicaragua): size large, color (or colour, if you prefer) black, bearing a white “hawk” insignia and white lettering and the words LEVON & THE HAWKS. It’s still in its original wrapper. I meant to wear it but age has interceded. If you like, reach me at dewittcarter at gmail dot com. I’d be happy to ship it, gratis of course.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Come Writers and Critics

The Bob Dylan Paper Site
TLW

Basketball soon. Hope everyone is staying healthy and strong. And enjoy your day off....if you have day off.

"August 3 In 2020 Civic Holiday is on Monday, August 3. The Civic Holiday is celebrated on the first Monday of August and it's a public holiday in some provinces and territories. The civic holiday is not a statutory holiday although it's a day off for many employees across the country."


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Dag B.

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Subject: King Harvest (Chicago 1983)

Richard Manuel on form.


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brown eyed girl

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Good Morning Kevin. The only reason I said that basketball is my favourite sport is because I was such a die-hard hockey fan up until the Gilmour years. I would watch hockey every Wednesday and Saturday night I was such a fan. Even as a teenager when our TV needed to be replaced....I was the one who bought another TV via my part-time jobs as it didn't look like anyone else could afford another one at the time. It was hockey that brought my mother and grandfather and I together in front of the TV. My brother was older and left home at 15 to live with another relative.......Last straw for my mother......I don't think her heart could take much after that.....And grandma was in her own world so just smiled. I always remember that beautiful sweet smile. So.....I finally let hockey sliiiiide. Then when Shanahan came on board.....He had the skill set and was not intimidated by anyone and came from Mimico.....Yeah, he was one of my faves for sure. I always watched him closely, very closely......;-D He finally made it to TO but not as a player but....Little by little I started to get back into hockey.

As for wanting more colour in hockey; I was thinking more about the Canadian and American players in general.......The children of colour in USA and Canada but now I realize hockey is considered or was a working class sport (boxing as you only need your fists and gloves and at the other end Polo as you need a horse) when fighting was a daily occurrence but.....hockey is not a working class sport...It is very expensive and time consuming for families. You were very fortunate and you have photos and videos......Wow Kevin!

Anyway, there are predominately players of colour on other sports. My mother once commented on why there weren't many black players playing hockey.....Oh it's because their calves are too small! Ok mom.....You can see that my own strong opinions and love of sports, especially basketball and hockey probably come from her.....and a love for films. She would have loved to watch westerns with you Kevin....Uhhhh......She may talk throughout.....whereas I differ as I do not talk when I'm watching sports, films or listening to music at Concerts or at home.... :-D


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brown eyed girl

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Good Morning Jed. You are the only American Band Fan who can applauds the Raps....maybe only Canadian Band fan here as well. Well you post about the Raps knowing.....A different perspective on sports....basketball.

I've been watching basketball since I witnessed Kareem Abdul Jabar and Tiny Archibald and It's Miller Time...Reggie Miller. I really do miss Kawhi....He was our only superstar in a very long time. The only other one was Vince Carter. Right now I'm actually rooting for our underdogs like Rondae Hollis-Jefferson who also meditates....and that smile....He just lights up the whole Court and reminds us that everything's going to be ok in this world afterall. I know my projections but that's how I feel when anyone smiles at me....especially strangers on the street or in stores or anywhere. The other day I was having a chiro adjustment and I was told that they could see my smile even though I was wearing a mask via of my eyes.

Terence Davis....so humble....He's fearless out on the court. And of course anyone who talks about their grandparents...I'm drawn to them hands down. He knows this is his one chance and a joy to watch like Rondae. Of course our Chris Boucher from Montreal....He just needs to bulk up as Spicey P did and then there are no limits.

Sure Kyle is the heart of the team...At his best at 6'1"....He's feisty, tenacious and has really improved his three point shot....I think the only dunk I saw was during one of the All-Star games and even Lebron had a huge smile on his face. I think the best thing that happened to him on the team was watching and playing with Kawhi. One lesson learned and hopefully will continue to be observed....The regular season is practice time......for the real event......the playoffs. For me sports......basketball my absolute favourite sport is not just what happens on the court. It's also about the players themselves. They are not robots. They are people who have trials and tribulations on and off the Court. Players like DeRozan and Mike Love's nephew Kevin Love.....who brought attention to depression. In the end helping others will always be more important than their skill sets because you will lose your skills as you will lose those beautiful sculpted arms....but you will never lose your character if you had it in the first place.... :-D


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Jonathan Lyness

Location: NYC

Peter, great Band compilation. You've got me making a mental note to listen to Pepote Rouge... long time since I've heard it! For the record, the OQ did a punchy version of King Harvest live on Tour '74... and the 90s Band did a fun When I Paint My Masterpiece live at the '92 Dylan 30th Anniversary show.


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Peter V

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Subject: 50 Ways To Leave Your Lover

I hadn't thought. Of course it's on YouTube … Rosemary Clooney on 50 Ways.


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Peter V

Subject: American Tunes

I've been listening to the Paul Simon covers CD in the Ace Songwriters series: "American Tunes." Fascinating. The outstanding track REALLY surprised me … Rosemary Clooney doing '50 Ways To Leave Your Lover.' Another is "Long Long Day" by Rumer. After 3 or 4 listens I wonder whether Peaches & Herbs breakneck Sounds of Silence is misguided or brilliant.

I always loved Keep The Customer Satisfied by Marsha Hunt which I bought back in the day.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Passionate about The Band, Keyboards, History, Debating

Analytical

The BODACIOUS BIRTHDAY BOY PAT B!

:-D


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Levon

You probably all know this but the Levon Helm band singing Ophelia at the Newport Folk festival in 2008 is sheer brilliance.


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Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks Fred. I enjoyed my job, but paperwork kept building up. \Ophelia and It Makes No Difference are brilliant songs.I enjoyed Reina Del Cid’s acoustic version of Ophelia.


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Fred

Peter V: agree about kd Lang and IMND. OK. She's the only one allowed to cover it.

I know, I know...very magnanimous of me. : D


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Peter V

Subject: It Makes No Difference

I don't know, Fred. When k.d. lang did 'Hymns of the 49th Parallel" I said that the missing writer was Robbie, ad the perfect song for her was It Makes No Difference. She could do it justice.

Rick and Levon must have liked NLSC to the extent that IMND and Ophelia were virtually permanent fixtures at 90s live shows. Back in 1976 The and were doing Forbidden Fruit well live.

You could compile a fabulous album of songs the Band didn't do live - or at least not after 1971 … Try this:

We Can Talk

Jemima Surrender

Rockin' Chair

Jawbone

King Harvest

Look Out Cleveland

Sleeping

Strawberry Wine

Daniel & The Sacred Harp

The Rumor

When I Paint My Masterpiece

Jupiter Hollow

Hobo Jungle

The Saga of Pepote Rouge

Being old-fashioned I chose fourteen tracks.


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Posted by:

RG

Username: Ray Guy, Facebook group: The Band, Date: 08.02.2020

«Hello Garth Friends..... Garth is out of the hospital. He is home and gaining weight. He and Maud are at their home in Woodstock, and we hope things are going to get better for them. Garth and Maud need help getting Social Security and Medicare. They did not know they qualified for SS Benefits, and never filed for their US benefits. If anyone can help, it will make their lives better.

Happy Birthday to Garth Hudson......

You can send him appreciation to his Facebook page or here on The Band Page.»


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Posted by:

Fred

It Makes No Difference should be one of those songs that is never allowed to be remade or covered by other artists.

Perhaps the powers that be in charge of Rock'n'Roll should decree it.


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Posted by:

Fred

Kevin: To answer you question: "Yes". So endeth the discussion. ;D


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Fred......I love ya, but are you really saying that Cahoots is superior to “Northern Lights - Southern Cross“ ? One of the reasons I can’t take Lucinda Williams is that she once so completely screwed up/messed over “It Makes No Difference” that it was actually painful to watch. I have had a hard time listening to her since.

BEG.....With 50% of NHL players coming from Canada and another 25% from Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic, Russia and Switzerland - finding more colour might be a bit of a challenge.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: From Gord Miller....

“ It’s been several years since I have had to remind myself to put on my mask before getting out of the car and entering a bank”


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Bill M

John D: Thanks John. Love the arrangement. If you'd said when you posted in that it was a cover of "Whispering Pines" I would have opened it in a flash. The prospect of hearing a mystery song for a rainy morning in Toronto, when I'm in rainy Toronto, isn't nearly as enticing.


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Jed

Subject: BEG-Hoops

Toronto’s basketball team is looking incredibly strong early in the bubble season. They are still,despite losing Leonard,contenders. Siakim has risen to elite level and Lowery is a megastar.Along with the most innovative coach in the league. WOW!


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Cahoots

Cahoots is a nice album, though not as good as the first three, but a much better effort than the rest.

Had The Moon Struck One and The River Hymn been left off (maybe Last of the Blacksmiths, too), it would have been a bit better.


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Posted by:

Fred

Jim McKenny!! I remember watching him play (on TV) for the Leafs and also having his hockey card (I remember having quite a few of his hockey cards. Seemed to me I got one in every other pack). Also when he was sports anchor on City TV.


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Fred

Dunc: I can't complain....well...I should say that I try not to complain.

There are times when the red mist descends and invectives are hurled at whatever politician/commentator appears on the television; Or the computer (but that's related to the tele/remote working I've been doing).

For some reason work-related paperwork became significantly more complicated to fill out than in the pre-pandemic age.

Apparently the axiom "Simple is best" is unknown to the people in charge at work.

Regarding your grandson: that's quite the achievement.

Having had a couple of friends and other acquaintances in Italy (in the '70s & '80s) who went through club academies (not any of the big clubs) I know the challenges involved. Fingers crossed.


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brown eyed girl

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Oh brother....Yeah, I'm talking to all my brothers here.....I meant the Leafs will be playing tonight. The hockey season has already started. I was watching The Raps last night. Sometimes I just try too hard....lol

TLW Out-Takes
Fred Gardner
April 26, 2012

Raps tomorrow afternoon for those who like diversity in their sports....Don't ever forget a Canadian invented Basketball!!!! I've been watching basketball and hockey since I was eight years old. Some here were only two years old but in another year or two were already lacing up their skates.
:-D


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

I like mixed music like Shaggy meets Marvin Gaye and New Wave meets Hip Hop and....

Scrambled eggs mixed with bok choy, sundried tomatoes, Pandano cheese and oregano and Chia and Quinoa Pita Crackers.

Favourite drink to crack open...Premium Beer...Ever-Tree Premium Ginger Beer.

HOCKEY needs more COLOUR

RACISM is a VIRUS

A couple of hours before the Hockey season begins. I did not see many hockey games in TO. We're talking way back as the only photos I have are of Jim McKenny.

Last night even Lebron James was singing O Canada...


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Subject: Frozen Strawberries

Happy Birthday, Garth ! And if the lovely man is taking a peek in here, thank you for all of the beautiful music over the years.

Thank you to the Hockey Gods for Carey Price and if there are Gods having anything to do with The Band and this GB, please - really - pretty please ensure that that Australian Broadcasting Corporation article on the prodigy contained no subliminal references to anything even remotely resembling a snake.


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Wallsend

There is an interesting article on the ABC website (the Australia one, not the American one) about the Australian guitarist Nathan Cavaleri ("Nathan Cavaleri reveals how being a 'blues guitar prodigy' shaped his life and music career"). No Band connection but still a good read.


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brown eyed girl

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Hey John D...I forgot to say as I told someone else....As soon as I read your post thunder erupted and Greay Boy was I shook up. He cannot tolerate any loud sounds. He seems to like when I'm playing various reggae artists so he's my boy for sure. As for the song you posted....really haunting and....especially during these surreal and challenging times......Thank you.

It's MARIA McKEE time with LONE JUSTICE
She even has her hair coloured blonde....I prefer when she has her bob cut in her natural colour....Nothing wrong with having a sexual vibe....Have you been to Brazil? I just don't want it to be the very first thing you think about. As women ....It's always the same.....but.....is she hot??? Shhhhhh......Take a look brother....If you didn't have that guitar strapped or that cool sports car....No one would notice you as well......Just sayin'.

Or....What did everyone have for breakfast/brundh/lunch? Your choice.....Huh? Huh?


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Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Sorry, John

It wouldn’t open this side of The Pond.


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John D

Don't worry BEG. No one responded to the great version of Whispering Pines by Boz Scaggs and Lucinda Williams that I posted. I said Happy Birthday to Garth on Facebook.


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brown eyed girl

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I guess I'm the only one who cares about birthdays...even Band members. Take two...

Today it's GARTH HUDSON'S BIRTHDAY!

3 beers = 1 spliff...George Harrison


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Posted by:

Jed

I posted a positive statement about the music. The snake attempted to twist it as he’s done to every post I’ve made over months. I responded these last few times as he has baited for a very long time.


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Jed

Subject: Peter V

Responding is not baiting. And certainly not to you.


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Peter V

Jed, you're baiting. Let it go.


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Jed

Subject: Jon

Good one! Except the snake ain’t in the lake but right on these very pages spewing venom passively yet aggressively.


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brown eyed girl

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HEALTHY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO GARTH HUDSON!!!

You never know how strong you are
until being strong
is your only choice

Bob Marley


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John D

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It's raining here in Toronto on a Sunday Morning. Thought this might be appropriate.


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Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Jed, I think you've been listening to The Moon Struck One too much.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Snakes

Snakes diggen Santana III is perfect symmetry given the symbolism. Ah!


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Fred

Fred, I was actually thinking of you when I posted and was wondering if you would return. Thank you. I knew you would understand the significance of what he has achieved. Only five boys from our huge part of the Glasgow conurbation. But our feet are firmly on the ground. You know it can end at any time. But I was astonished because he is so young. You’ll have gleaned over the years, I spend so much time at kids/youths football. How are you doing Fred?


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Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Ben. John Martyn fanatics and there are many would see London Conversation as a beginners’ album. Get into the classic tracks. I’ve actually got John Martyn Live at the Bottom Line.

Thanks, Norm. I missed that, but did get into Larkin Poe at the time...which maybe explains the miss.

Really enjoyed the film last night, Peter.


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Fred

Subject: Green & white hoops

Dunc: congatulations and all the best to your grandson.


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Jed

The snake lies low suggesting RR recalled good times. I’m sure that’s true particularly when ignoring the obvious joy these guys had,even in 76 when the music was running on all cylinders. All 5 guys!No need for the hisssss.


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Peter V

I wasn’t there. I may have been quoting Lee G. Or we were both in the same issue of Jawbone.


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Wallsend

Ben, I don't think your dislike for Cahoots is all that unreasonable. 'Disdain' seems a little harsh but not everybody has to like everything. The first two tracks were really good but the rest is less than memorable. When Santana III came out I just couldn't get into it but I love it now. I don't know how long that took, definitely less than thirty years I think.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Kevin, nice detective work. I would love to hear a recording from this concert, at least of 'Ophelia'. I checked the tape archive and ther are recordings from 6/19 and 6/21, so it is likely that a tape from 6/20 exists.


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Posted by:

Kevin J

Funny...Bobby O....below is from the John Martin Gig list website:

1996-06-20 UK, London, Forum: guest appearance at The Band concert. "The show was enlivened by a totally drunken John Martyn lurching around during Ophelia." (Peter Viney) And: "Mysteriously, John Martyn wandered onto the stage and richly intoned the chorus of Ophelia, then just as mysteriously vanished again......Levon Helm from behind the safety of his drumkit called for 'Bobby O' to come back on. Then added 'He's called Bobby O in the States. He's just shy.' That was just the first of the euphemisms that seemed to be circling the stage that night. (Julian Moseley).


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Peter V

It was Lee G who was at the Band show where John Martyn appeared. Not a good one apparently.

Did you know that the first commecially released CD single in the UK was Angeline by John Martyn?

Loved Dixie by The Zimmermen. And the What's Going On video. Both a good start to the day.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Talented Youngsters

Hello Dunc. Several years ago I posted a video of Reina Del Cid. Right at the same time I believe Todd posted Larkin Poe. Everyone was so taken with Larkin Poe I don't think anyone bothered to watch Reina.

Now here are sisters, two teenage girls who are outstanding guitarists. They are going to be heard no doubt. (Listen to the southern Y'all accents.

I noticed some where back there Haso had remarked about me call BEG, "Evangalina". He thought I got that from Emmylou at the Last Waltz. I guess he never played the link I put up.

Evangelina is a great song from Hoyt Axton. I guess I'm more of a fan of Hoyt than most here. I played music with him years ago about 1986 or 87.


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Ben

Location: New Jersey

Pat, Excellent version of 'Dixie'. That's my fav Band song and the one I love to sing when I get together my musician friends. It really exemplifies the genius of Robbie's writing. He was working at a remarkable level in 1968/69 with all of the songs he wrote for the brown album.

I'll give 'Cahoots' another spin. I have been periodically listening to it for the last 30 plus years and I'm still waiting for it to grown on me.

Dunc, Wow, you have a big John Martyn collection. I don't have nearly that much. I had maybe 10 or 15 at the most, but downsized my entire collection last year prior to a move. 'London Conversation' is my fav of the studio albums that I've heard, but there are many that I haven't heard yet. I recall reading something about Martyn appearing with the Band at a UK show in 1996. It might have been Peter Viney who wrote about that show. It seemed that they were all very intoxicated and the show was a big mess. Anyway, Martyn was a major talent and I will seek out more of his music.


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Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: How To Build A Girl

HOW TO BUILD A GIRL (linked) has had its release straight to Amazon Prime video in the UK. A shame as in any other year, this would have been a major box office success. Still, you can watch it now, Starring Beanie Feldstein in the screen adaptation of Caitlin Moran’s 2014 novel. It follows the transformation of Johanna, a kid from a Wolverhampton council estate into a young rock journalist named Dolly Wilde. It’s VERY funny. It has an outstanding support cast … some are blink if you miss them (Chris O'Dowd, Emma Thompson, Alexei Sayle). If you liked Almost Famous but wanted a version for females, this is it. Excellent asides on rock, rock journalism and critics.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Reina Del Cid

Later last night, I came across Reina Del Cid playing with different musicians on You Tube. I thought her and her band members with a great young girl lead guitarist were really good at playing acoustic versions of classic songs.

I came across her because I was looking for Stuck In The Middle and her version is really good.

There are very good versions of The Weight, Ophelia with a tuba, When I Paint My Masterpiece, King of the Road, Fly Me To The Moon. Many songs.

Great stuff, well played...and what is great about it, is young people keeping the music alive.

So google Reina Del Cid.

PS Mike. I wish I had been with you at a Hawks’ gig..


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Posted by:

Kevin J

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Standing in the Doorway - Bob Dylan

Standing in the Doorway - Chrissie Hyde

Silver, Blue & Gold - Bad Company

NORM J..... Really nice to see you back along with Mike Nomad on the same day........I’ve been thinking of that period of beautiful isolation I spent all those years ago in your area at Dennis Washington’s island/salmon fishing camp.....it, along with many places in that area would be a perfect place to ride out this madness. You’re lucky - I’m stuck in TO tripping over patios in the middle of Yonge Street !

Goodnight, BEG !


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Jed

And-love the music,Pat. Thank you.


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Jed

The slimy snake still manages to hide in the brush and i feel badly that Ben or Pat were insulted or thought I was ever referring to them. it was never Ben or Pat. This creep now opposes another dead person based on allegations and takes pride in his sneaky asides. He’ll always find a snarky comment to make about Levon sometimes by even bending a positive accomplishment,by omission or out right hostility. Is he trying to compensate against all the venom directed at RR? Who knows?But vilifying Levon won’t even the score for Robbie. He hides in the brush in plain sight and its only his(her?)bland style of writing that leads to missing his venomous existence.


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Posted by:

Jed

Ben? Why not come together with Ben? Never had a reason to be opposed him?


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: WHAT'S GOIN ON???? Marvin Gaye like!

Stayin out on the water....away from people and their dread diseases..but here is one of the finest of "Playin For Change"


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Pat B

Web: My link

This is my Dylan tribute band taking part in Amy Helm's TheBandTogether shelter at home project. This is for Jed and Ben whom I hope will come together over Cahoots.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Wallsend: Robbie has said that, absolutely. But I have the impression his fondest memories are from the earlier days of the group and the first two albums, which is pretty strongly the narrative of Once Were Brothers. (Disclaimer: I haven't finished Testimony yet.) Just musing how even in the fairly 'down' stretches that came later--such as, per Jed's post, the summer of '76--there were likely still some special moments mixed in.


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