The Band Guestbook, December 2019
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: A new New Year Story
The last few years I've linked the story "New Year's Rag" set in 1964 from "I'll Tell Everything I Know." This year I've linked another one from the second set of short stories, "Rolling Down The Road." This one is called "The Three (Wired) Weird Sister" and takes place on New Year's Eve 1967.
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Posted by:Peter V
Norm, I also struggle up the steep stairs every morning bearing a pot of tea for Karen.A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: The Chase
Great review Peter. Setting aside the location for shooting and the bad job of Texas accents, I loved the film for how bad it was but really showing the Texas red neck behaviour of that time. Maybe a little over done, (example) Robert Duvall's wife's comment during that "party" "shoot somebody for screwin' his wife! half the town would be wiped out". The thing about copying Texas accents is most those people talk to fast and can't slow themselves down enough to sound Texas.
My next favourite, a 1971 flick but better I guess as it won awards was "The Last Picture Show" about 1950's Texas.
By the way adding to our last conversation, tell Karen that Susan always gets her morning coffee delivered in bed. :-)
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: The Chase (1966)
Another in my "1960s Films revisited" series. This time by request … THE CHASE (1966) directed by Arthur Penn, starring Marlon Brando, Jane Fonda and Robert Redford.
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Posted by:Bill M
Subject: addendum
... not to mention that five of the nine of them hailed from the big pink blob to the north.
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Posted by:Bill M
Thanks for that Rascals link, Pat. Not only were the two camps linked by skin tone, musical style and club circuit, they both had strong links to Roulette Records and producer Henry Glover. Glover produced Gene, Felix and Eddie as members of Joey Dee and the Starlights, and our guys as members of Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks and the Canadian Squires.
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Posted by:Pat B
Many years ago I compared the Rascals to The Band and wondered if they crossed paths back in the day since they played the same circuit. From a 2007 interview with Rascals guitarist Gene Cornish: “We were elitist on our minds. We knew we played better than the other bands. We were hot. The only other band that could play like us was The Band themselves. The Band at the time were just starting to play with Bob Dylan. Before that, they were in the same circle we were. They were a white R&B band; we were products of that environment.”
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandJoni Mitchell’s River sung by Ellie Goulding is number one in the charts over here. It’s amazing that a song is top of the hit parade so many years after it was written.
For XMAS, I got three remastered albums.
Love Forever Changes
Gene Clark Roadmaster
Paul McCartney Pipes of Peace, which is remastered.
I watched the Gene Clark documentary on the I player over Christmas. I think it is really well done.
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Posted by:Peter V
Subject: Brown Album
Release date 22nd September 1969. I have described HMV's December 1969 Xmas display in Oxford St - three albums, The Band, Abbey Road, Let It Bleed.
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Posted by:John D
Subject: Bill M
Bill. Thank you for the mention. Who was it you talked to at Wilson & Lee? One of the brothers? The Rainbow was my best friend Bob and I's favourite hangout once a week. We would walk down Simcoe Street; from O.C.V.I. (our high school) and sit at our favourite table in the window in the corner. Chips & Gravy & a Coke. It was the best of times. One Friday afternoon we played hooky. Went into Wilson & Lee and blew the budget. Bob Dylan's "Another Side of Bob Dylan". It was the best of times.
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Posted by:haso
Location: seacoast NHSubject: brown and stage
Ok, Roger, Brown Album out in Winter '70... then that's when I woulda bought it. It was probably that Christmas of 1969 that I got this Sears record player for a present. It was the kind that folded up, almost like a suitcase, the little vertical-in-tendency speakers hung on the side. I guess that would have made me 15/soph. year in high school. I know I just about wore that needle out playing Brown. Had no idea who was singing I don't think but could tell (by the photos) that it was Levon (Lavon) playing the drums. As he said, it looked like the drummer had "the most fun in the outfit". My friends were musicians, unfortunately I didn't have anything in that direction.
Stage Fright would definitely be interesting, expanded. I remember the lp came w/ a photo that wrapped part-way around the edge of the jacket, kind of a mini-poster. I liked it up in the corner of the wall, taped to perpendicular surfaces (as an aside, long before I encountered F.L.Wright & Le Corbusier jamming window fenestration into corners like that in architecture school).
Jan: does Sebastian ever visit here anymore? I would imagine he'd have some good 1st-hand conversation on the Playing for Change process that Norm & I keep bringing up, perhaps over & above what he says on their Behind the Music deal.
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Posted by:Bill M
As far as I'm concerned, do-overs in the mixing department should not be encouraged except in cases where clowns were in charge of the original attempt. I don't like the brittle sound of "Cahoots", but clowns were not involved and the artists themselves gave it the thumbs-up - and that's good enough for me. Fwiw, I've long called for a deluxe rerelease of the two or three "Stage Fright" mixes - the Todd, the Glyn and the rough one that both were sent.
John D: Your name came up in conversation on Friday. We went for a drive and found ourselves in Oshawa at lunchtime. Nothing decent open but the Rainbow. Noticed the Wilson and Lee Music store across the street. There was a gone-for-good sign on the door but a guy was doing paperwork inside. So I knocked, and he opened the door. The same guy had been there the only other time I'd been in the store - in 1981. I'd gone in '81 because I'd been told that Billy Dalziel worked there and I wanted to talk to Billy about his days with Larry Lee and the Leesures and subsequently with Quorum (which he joined to take over from the departing Jerry Penfound. This time I went to see if they still had the 1964 promo photo of the original jack London and tthe Sparrows with CJ Feeny and Bruce Palmer (before Bruce got traded to the Mynah Birds for Nick St Nicholas). They didn't, but the guy listed the names of some of the notables who'd been by recently to see the photo wall. Your name was mentioned between Steve Macko and Greg Godovitz. You shoulda been mentioned first! (I left with two shots of Jack Bailey and the Naturals and one of the 'Oshawa' Linconaires.)
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Posted by:Rod
The very first stage fright CD I bought had some of the alternative mixes. That was way before the re-issues came out.
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Posted by:Peter V
Subject: Stage Fright
John D: Absolutely right- let Giles Martin have a go. Giles is the ultimate choice.
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Posted by:John D
Location: TorontoWeb: My link
SWEET SUMMER FUN - ROLLING STONES LIVE AT HYDE PARK 2013.
I own just about every Rolling Stones DVD there is. Every once in awhile I think it's the best one I've ever seen. Shine A Light was like that for me; But; after waiting two days; with my Prime Membership, Sweet Summer Fun - Hyde Park Live (Blu-Ray) arrived.
Well I think it may be the most exciting concert I've ever seen the Stones do. It had been 44 years since they first played Hyde Park and it was also Mick Taylor's first concert with them at the time. Well as they are about to do Midnight Rambler, Mick Jagger reminisces about how Mick Taylor made the song so special. WELL, out comes Mick Taylor. He's gained a few pounds; but his guitar playing is better than ever. Also Bobby Keyes was still with us for this concert. The quality of the Blu-Ray in just perfect and the DTS sound is magnificent. Charlie also does a great change up on Midnight Rambler. I could go on and on. Thanks Amazon for getting it to me quickly. It was shot in 2013 so my expectations weren't really high. Well it was over the top for me today.
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Posted by:John D
Location: TorontoRegarding Stage Fright being remastered. My wish is that Robbie would stretch out his arms across the big pond and ask Giles Martin to participate. For my ears Giles could do nothing wrong; but really improve the original album. However I'm hoping Giles will concentrate on Norwegian Wood first.
I say this in all due respect to John Simon & Tod Rundgren.
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Posted by:Peter V
Bill, pay attention, they already did the brown album remaster! Actually as you move on in time, more multi tracks mean more opportunities for fiddling with the mix. The interesting thing about Stage Fright is two mixes already exist … Glyn Johns and Todd Rundgren. They used some of each. So a new stereo mix plus a 5.1 mix would be a chance to get the best of everything.
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Posted by:Bill M
Subject: will 2020 be the Brown Album?
NwC: 2019 has its advocates, as does MFBP, but even they would admit that there was room for improvement. The big question is 2021: Do we leave it to Robbie to improve on perfection, or will the powers that be call in Giles Martin?
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: Brown Album
I purchased The Brown because i had heard 'The Weight' in 1970 in my grandma's kitchen and believed that it was one of the songs. - No harm done.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: 2019 / Wallsend
"Happy New Year to all GB posters - lets hope 2020 will be better than 2019 ..." that is what my gb friend WALLSEND (*) posted the other day. I wonder, what's wrong with 2019? It was a fabulous year!
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(*) Footnote: WALLSEND took my part against American Northwestern Band Maffia back then. "KIITOS" in Finnish, that is :-)
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Posted by:Peter v
Subject: Upstart CrowWe have all three series on DVD and better, tickets for the stage version in 2020. The original cast too. Looking forward to it. David Mitchell is brilliant as Shakespeare. It is also erudite in some of the tiny details thrown in about plays,
The TV that irritates is the new stuff for Christmas. Only A Christmas Carol as original drama over three days 22nd to 24th and it was beyond dire. No big drama for Christmas Day either, though the Gavin and Stacey sitcom 10 year reunion was very good- James Cordern of course.
Tonight the 6 part Trial of Christine Keebler begins. One of the big UK events of the early 60s. Looks promising.
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Posted by:Wallsend
Just came across an interesting interview with Bill Graham on Youtube: Bill Graham - Interview - 8/4/1974 - KQED (Official)
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Posted by:Wallsend
I have been binge watching TV over the Christmas break. Finally got to watch Guilty. I appreciate the Rick Danko reference but the complicated story and thick Scottish accents made it a bit hard to understand. I have also been watching Upstart Crow which I think is hilarious although very typical of Ben Elton. Peter, I would have thought that would be something you would enjoy. As for a boxed set of Cahoots, I am afraid The Moon Struck One in 5.1 sound may be something we will only ever be able to dream of. Stage Fright was the first Band album I got as Big Pink and the Brown album were unavailable in NZ at the time. When I first heard it, I was a little disappointed but it grew on me over the years. The album I was most impressed with on first hearing was Band of Gypsies although I have come to find Buddy Miles drumming and singing a little irritating. Happy New Year to all GB posters - lets hope 2020 will be better than 2019. It will be interesting to see how the UK gets on with Brexit and what happens in the US elections. As for Australia, we will continue to burn and cough out copious quantities of CO2.
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Posted by:Peter V
TV this Christmas must be the worst ever. Tonight Mrs V insisted on a Michael Hutchence documentary, proving my point is that he might be the only singer even less talented than Jim Morrison. Awful derivative posing.
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Posted by:Ben Pike
Location: Cleveland TxSubject: Super
I was aware of the Brown Album because I thought it was something strange my older brother was into. I went to EJ Korvettes with my parents. First I noticed some guy with a record player was playing an album in the store (weird), but even though it sounded like The Beatles surely I would have known if a new Beatles was out. Then I turned the corner and there was the iconic cover or crossing the street. Wow. But! I also remember they had a Brown Album sign up "The Band plays THE music!!!" Well, they weren't easy to promote. Later my brother gave me Big Pink and Brown. Thought they were interesting but it wasn't until I bought "Rock of Ages" in High School that I went round the bend. I have both supersets, of course.
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Posted by:Roger
Location: Birmingham UKSubject: The Brown album’s release
Haso - the brown album was issued in winter’69. Not sure when. I bought it in a December. I was living on OxfordStreet so probably bought it in Dobells on Charing Cross Road. I would have bought it pretty soon after it came out. I remember going home to my student room and putting it on my Dansette. I was stunned. It’s never happened before or since. Each track seemed to me to be a masterpiece on first play. We had a cooperative on our rooming house corridor so we had albums all over the place. That autumn had already produced Abbey Road, Let it Bleed and several other great, though lesser, albums. A Salty Dog was worth buying just for the cover!
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Do me a favour, hon …
Jackie Deshannon's version of The Weight came up in my "Americana" playlist in the car today and I listened through a couple of times. It's a very early cover. Was she the first to see the potential for "soul" backing voices in the chorus? The link is miming. The gender issue causes her a couple of scanning issues "where I can find a bed" is hard but "do me a favour, hon" is not a problem. It's a very good version, especially the male backing voice. YouTube says it's Barry White.
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Posted by:Peter V
I'll take any box set of any of the albums, even Cahoots.
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Posted by:Rod
I'd love to see an Islands box set (not joking) that contained all the studio doodlings that are rumored to exist from the Shangri-La days. Maybe not a huge commercial success though.
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Posted by:haso
Location: seacoast NHSubject: JQ & Stan L/brown
I'm not as sure of the date as you 2 are (buying the Brown Album). Was it out in the Fall of 1969? I may have bought it then, but certainly Winter or Spring of '70; at the bookstore of the little prep school (freshman year) that I attended in St.L. If memory serves, 1st ever album bought was Steppenwolf:the 2nd or CCR:Green River. Right in there would have been the Brown Album and Chicago:CTA. That all said, I vaguely remember some flower power album maybe earlier; w/ a song something like "Here come's the Sun" or a similar name... not the Beatles. Might have been Strawberry Alarmclock or some other L.A. one-(not really a)hit wonder.
I've had the sense from what Peter has written, that barring a serious upgrade in my audio equipment (not likely), I'm best off w/ just the 2-cd version of the Brown Album at 50.
Agree that it would also be interesting if they superset Stage Fright. Unlike others, it actually took me a few years to get back to MFBP, probably after the original Rock of Ages lp, at the earliest.
Glad to see you're still on Playing for Change, Norm. 2 things of interest: 1) comment just recently that puts Mark Johnson as Keb Mo's producer and 2) in possible answer to a ? about PfC funding... there's a woman named Whitney (can't recall her last name) that was pretty involved right off. I couldn't tell if she had some relation to Mr. Johnson, but did see early-on that she was a granddaughter of Walmart's Sam Walton. If that is the case, nice to see some of those beaucoup $'s going into something good for the world.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Imus and Levon
I think the Imus appearances were sort of a bridge between the Barnburner era and the Midnight Ramble, when Levon got his voice back. I saw Levon there a couple times and he had a larger group then than the Barnburners with horns and a guitarist named Fred Scrivener (?) and then Larry Campbell the second time. I’d place it around 2006. Imus was a big fan, fairly knowledgeable and made it a showy point to call Levon - Lavon.
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Posted by:John D
Subject: Don Imus
Don Imus died today; in Texas at the age of 79. No cause was mentioned. His link to The Band was his close relationship with Levon Helm.
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Posted by:Jon Lyness
Location: NYC
I'm still waiting for my High on the Hog superset. That cigar-chomping pig would emboss nicely on a gold foil cover.
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Posted by:Peter V
I'd hope for a StageFright superset. They did better on Brown than Big Pink - they're working into a system maybe. They already did the Rock of Ages and Last Waltz super sets(though they might re-do them).Super sets need to rely on either a major hit OR a major later reappraisal …like The Kinks last two super boxes, or Hot Rats, which can't have been a mega seller, surely? Every musician I knew had it though. I can't see buying the 6x CD version myself. Then there was The Velvet Underground & Nico album. Was it John Cale who said something like "Only 1000 people bought it but they all went out and started a band."
I personally would place Stage Fright as "super box set" material … but Cahoots won't be, nor Islands. Northern Lights Southern Cross works for me, but I'd rate it unlikely.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Brown purchase
My date was May 12, 1970. I had been away saving the country from commies and that was date I came home. I bought it immediately at the PX in Long Beach but I don’t know how I knew about it. I know I had read Time magazine article, so that was the likely incentive. I think, like a lot of people, I started with Brown and then got MFBP.
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Posted by:Stan L,
Location: Toronto
Fifty years ago today I bought the brown album at Sam the Record Man’s annual Boxing Day sale for $3,.79. I still have it but no longer have a turntable...
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Posted by:Ben Pike
Location: Cleveland TxSubject: Christmas must be last night
Hey, nice to see the GB up for Christmas.
Well, got the Brown Album superset. Listening to the full Woodstock set for
the first time as I write. Funny to think that when
I saw them on the last tour, they only did 3 Brown Album
songs. Wonder if they will do one of these supersets
on Stage fright.
Well, have a great year. And please, anybody who
wants change for it's own sake, put your hand down the
sink and turn on the garbage disposal. You will get what
you want, and you won't be able to vote.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: Play For Change? (Politics. Scroll!)
I would vote for Trump even if I am really Bernie Sanders man. I would voted for Boris even if I am glad that Northern Sea is between us. This happens now in many Western democracies. People like me want a change. Irrationally. Probably.
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Posted by:NWC
Subject: Ahhh....
"Playing For Change", that is.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: Playing For Peace
Thanks WESTCOASTER for responding. You wrote: "Playing music together to change the world so that uniting people through music will change how people see each other and bring people together no matter what colour or religion. (it's very simple).
No WESTCOASTER. It is not that simple. Sorry for being political, but Jesus Christ was a political person, too... or they made him to a political person. - Good music, for sure. Merry Christmas!
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Posted by:Rod
Then the Baron yelled out "Melly Clistmas My Fliends"
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Best albums & songs of 2019
Link to my round up of my favourite albums and songs of 2019.Happy Christmas everyone!
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Posted by:Lisa
Merry Christmas to everybody who posts and reads here! I hope the next year has a little less turmoil and a little more peace and good will towards all of us. May your wishes come true ... Love, Lisa
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Posted by:henrik ibsen
Location: skienSubject: jeg er
en gjøk !
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Posted by:Rod
thanks John D, better than Rodney's Song. That's for damn sure.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Fresh New Sounds
What I'm listening to these days as well as the Playing for Change music I enjoy, are "The Classic Rock Show" band in England. To hear young folks who want to play classic rock music and play it almost exactly as the original is so much more interesting than a lot of the top 40 stuff of today.
This guitar player with the classic rock show (Howie) plays All Along the Watch Tower exactly like Hendricks and even sings like him. They do a ton of old music with a fresh sound.
As well I am impressed with the "School of Rock". There are groups of "kids" that are very talented. One group who play "My Girl" and sound as good or better than the Temptations of 1964. Another 4 piece with a girl bass player and a girl singer play Cheap Trick's "I want you to want me" better than Cheap Trick do. The little blonde playing bass is killer. These young folks show a love of classic rock and can they ever play it.
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Posted by:Bill M
Fwiw, Roy Buchanan's drummer on several LPs, possibly including "Sweet Dreams" was a Montrealer named Jerry Mercer, who I saw playing at the CNE in the summer of '70 or '71 as part of Mashmakhan, who at the time had recently had a huge international hit with "As The Years Go By". He subsequently spent 20 years back in Canada with the ever-popular April Wine.
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: Scotland
Don’t know that one, Peter. I only really knew the Roy Buchanan album then the two after that. I think there was a flurry of Roy Buchanan at that time over here.
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Posted by:Peter V
Sweet Dreams was a lot better than Hot Wires. Hot Wires was also on Sonet, not a major label.
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandSubject: Roy Buchanan
Sweet Dreams got a lot of plays in 1973 here in the UK. It takes me back to living in a tent in a country town and working 12 to 15 hour shifts through the night in a canning factory. We played it on cassette on one of these small black players over and over. I thought it was absolutely brilliant and still do. I have a two CD collection of Roy Buchanan’s work, which I play for the few outstanding tracks, and the absolutely brilliant guitar playing.
Roy Buchanan wasn’t happy with his own volume of work. However, I remember on this site - a description of Robbie and Sebastian listening and marvelling at his guitar playing.
But I also read about the no shows and self humiliating behaviour, which sadly would be due to alcoholism.
I wish I had seen him, Bill.
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Posted by:Bill M
Location: TrontoI agree with Rod that a Roy Buchanan had a few standout tracks, "The Messiah Will Surely Come Again" being the ultimate. I will say that he was great live, or at least was the one time I saw him - in the '80s in a small indoor venue here at Harbourfront. Apparently Robbie was in the audience (of 200?) my memory is that Roy came out onto the floor, wailing away while people clustered around him in a fashion that was both encouraging and, oddly, protective.
I saw a similar phenomenon in the late '90s, when another of Robbie's sorta-associates, Dominic Troiano, closed a giant reunion of old Toronto bands. It'd been a long evening and most of the audience had left, but those that remained clustered around Dominic as he and his band motored through a spruced-up "Peter Gunn". Encouraging, but with more emphasis on protectiveness, as almost everyone there would have known that he (Dom) was dying.
Guitarist brotherhoods can be long and winding; I remember Robbie Lane calling me at home in'80 to say that both Robbie Robertson and Dominic Troiano had shown up his Robbie Lane and the Disciples gig the night before, and spent some quality time together with diciples guitarist Terry Bush. (Troiano had taken Robertson's place on the hbawkins bandstand in '64, and Bush had taken over from Troiano in '65. But long before that, the book "Young Neil" tells us that Bush had been an early idol / mentor of the 14-year-old Neil Young.)
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Posted by:John D
Subject: Rod
Rod try "Home Is Where I Lost Her" from the album That's What I Am Here For. One of my favs.
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Posted by:Wallsend
For me, the thing that really separated Robbie from guys like Roy Buchanan, Mike Bloomfield and Rory Gallagher was the quality of his song writing. Robbie could play killer lead guitar but his songs were finely crafted and not dominated by guitar. Of course, one reason for this was that the other guys in the Band really contributed a lot to the arrangements. I also think it reflects the fact that he evolved and developed as a musician especially under the influence of Dylan.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Roy Buchanan
The first time I heard of and heard Roy Buchanan was on a 1971 PBS special; it might have just been an LA KCET (UHF educational TV, pre simulcasts) thing. I was really into guitar players then and I was gobsmacked. Shortly after that he was coming to the Santa Monica Civic, so I jumped and got 10 second row seats and found enough friends that trusted my taste.
I kept talking him up and away we went. But.. he no-showed. There was no advance notice but the money was returned. Since then I saw him once and viewed some YouTube and agree that he was a real snooze. I think that PBS deal is available on line and I believe remains impressive. There’s a bit with Merle Haggard with Roy & Roy Nichols in Bakersfield and I think maybe Shuggie Otis that are still worth a look. I’m heading there now -
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Posted by:Rod
I agree about Roy Buchanan. I've tried many times to get into his music but have only found a few tracks I could get into - Sweet Dreams and The Messiah Will Come Again.
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandSubject: Concerts and year buys.
Poorest year in terms of the number of concerts I saw.
But I saw two great concerts at the start of the year. Graham Nash accompanied by a guitarist and key board player. Brilliant.
And Blue Rose Code, a younger guy, who played a selection of Scottish soul classics with Scottish stars such as Eddi Reader and Hamish Stewart. Highlight of the show for me was the finale of Pick Up The Pieces and Here We Go Round Again. Brilliant.
Quite a lot of new additions to the collection, which I maintain about the same size.
Finished collecting the Tony McManus guitar albums.
Collecting the re mastered Paul McCartney and Wings albums. Bought all but a couple of copies.
Graham Nash Songs for Beginners and Over the Years
Nic Jones Penguin Eggs
Completed the Tom Waits studio albums by buying a couple.
Karine Polwart Fault Lines.
Bought five of the first eight JJ Cale albums.
Returned to the Eagles and bought four of the first six Eagles albums.
Bought two Camera Obscura albums.
Rebought Eric Clapton From Cradle to the Grave. My first copy seemed to have worn out.
Bought a couple of Kevin Coyne albums.
The later two Steely Dan albums.
And a few more.
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Posted by:Peter V
Subject: Last FiveLast five:
Mad Lads: A Tribute to Chuck Berry- Ronnie Wood. Tremendous live covers. CD.
White Hymnals- Mojo February 2020 cover disc.CD. Various artists but it maintains a mood. Excellent.
Norwegian Wood – Stephane Grapelli. Covers of Beatles songs. Nice sleeve. £3 yesterday, Most pleasant.
Hot Wires- Roy Buchanan, thinking of early Hawks. To be honest he is generic and dull, good playing, but not creative, merely “fast.” No wonder Ronnie preferred Robbie. Vinyl. Boring.
Reflections in A Crystal Mind- Richard & Mimi Farina. Fabulous. Vinyl.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Playing For Change
Playing music together to change the world so that uniting people through music will change how people see each other and bring people together no matter what colour or religion. (it's very simple).
It is all explained and you can join the movement with a small donation. Some of the videos of songs take you to schools throughout the world that have been built with money from sales of these CD'S and videos. Particularly in Africa. You just need to look a little. The man who started the movement is Mark Johnson.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: Playing For The Change
Thanks WESTCOASTER for mentioning this video. Great music, Polar Prize winners. - However, it raised many questions in my mind: who are these people financing this? why the music which seems to be uniting the world is _American_ (well, Canadian)? what is the real purpose?
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: The Irishman
A pretty good review Peter. I wasn't that taken with the historical aspect of the film that much. The aging work was interesting to see. I liked "Hoffa" with Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito more as a story.
Mentioning the history of mob activity in America, one movie with Deniro that I really thought was a day to day life account of that sort of life was "A Bronx Tale". I thought that was a good movie. It wasn't as sensational as the big ticket stuff like Frances Ford Coppola but it was believable.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: The Irishman
Full review of Martin Scorsese’s THE IRISHMAN (Follow link). On Netflix too, with Robert De Niro, Joe Pesci and Al Pacino and CGI “de-ageing.” Marvellous stuff and it continues Netflix's major "assault" on the film industry.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: The Weight Playing For Change
Just spending some time with the videos of the making of this historic performance by all these folks. If you haven't watched the videos of the behind the scenes, do so. It is wonderful to watch Sebastian with his enthusiasm for this project for his Dad explaining the process of choosing who will sing which part and who will play. Also the input of the people who took part and expressing their feeling for this song and the deep respect for the band.
Sebastian's explaining having young Marcus King a deep south boy sing that first verse for the respect of Levon. This whole project is one of the most historic events they have undertaken. Right up there with Otis Reddings "Sittin on the Dock of the Bay". Just loved that they showed us these clips.
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Posted by:Mike Nomad
Hi, Ray. Good to hear from you. Are you still at the same email address? If so, I’ll drop you a note. If not, Merry Christmas to you and your family. (I still have your family Christmas photo from several years back, which includes Elvis.)
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Posted by:Peter V
Just got tickets for Judy Collins in January - with JONAS FJELD. Jonas is the support act and plays with Judy Collins on joint new material. Worth checking out the tour. Wimborne was nearly sold out (and starts at 5 pm, on a Sunday unusually!)
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Posted by:Peter V
Hmm. I've been working through the late 60s movies to re-review. I might turn my attention to the early 60s. I have a lot on DVD - in the brief "cover-mount" DVD era, several British newspapers started giving away classic 50s and 60s films. I have two boxes filled with such free DVDs. I think most of the classic sare in there … The Servant is a particularly fine one.
Not "Morgan - A Suitable Case for Treatment" though. When there was a lot of publicity in the 60s about the Irish rebel hero of 1916, Sir Roger Casement, who was gay,"Private Eye" did a cover with "Morgan - A Suitable Treat for Casement" which has remained the title in my head. I saw it when it came out, then actually met a girlfriend (of the next year) when queuing to watch it again at a late night showing at university. We met standing in line, then sat together- very chastely, I might add.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Victim
Thanks Lisa - This one was on today too. It’s heavy-handed in today’s context, but then (1961) and there it was daring and brave. Dirk Bogarde, a gay man, playing a closeted gay man in a place where that behavior was still illegal and subject to penalties in dark ages style, was particularly courageous.
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Posted by:Lisa
JQ, if you're not familiar with the 60s British films you're in for a real treat. There were any number of really outstanding movies made during this period, lots by directors starting out who later went on to big careers. Also many interesting sound tracks by composers like John Addison, which are just as unique to the era as the movies themselves. Very identifiable somehow. Two favorites of mine are The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner and Darling, but there are lots to choose from. TCM runs them from time to time.Some probably don't age too well, though. A movie I used to like, Morgan - A Suitable Case for Treatment, might be a little cringy to watch these days.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Shirley Ann Field not Sally
PV - My error on that. Like a real deviant I’ve looked through pictures of her and fuck me she was sexy back then, eh? She’s still alive and appears to have had a lot of work done. Is Saturday Night & Sunday Morning highly regarded and considered authentic to the era? I thought it was very good.
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Posted by:Ray
Mike Nomad Just want to wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy 2020. Long time no speak... hoping all is well.
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Posted by:Peter V
Christine Keeler will be the subject of a Christmas TV drama … she was only 19. I never thought of her as particularly attractive or unattractive. What is clear is that no one said, 'HEY! This is a 19 year old girl not a major spy or security risk…" at the time. Apparently the forthcoming TV drama makes it explicit.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Christine Keeler vs Sally Ann Field
Hi Peter V - TCM (our classic movie network) is showing 60’s Brit films today - right now it’s Saturday Night & Sunday Morning, so dam bleak looking. Sally Ann Field is very sexy. I was wondering between these 2 which was considered the most appealing by teenagers back then?
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Best of 2019- Concerts
This year I’m separating my “Best of 2019 Concerts” (FOLLOW LINK) from “Best of 2019 Recorded Music.” So here you go, a summary of the live acts I’ve seen this year with links to the original reviews (extracts are on the article.) And the Best Is …
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Posted by:Peter V
Subject: Kenny LynchRIP, Kenny Lynch. The first person ever to cover a Lennon-McCartney song, "Misery." He also had a major British hit with Up On The Roof and You Can Never Stop Me loving You. He appears on the "Band On The Run" LP cover too.
Kenny was famous as one of the first black British singers, with a definite cockney accent.
I'll share a personal memory. Late 1970, we stopped with other group vans on the motorway services in the middle of the night, heading back to London. We got our food and I went over to the juke box and did the 3 plays for a shilling … two were The Weight ad I Shall Be Released. As The Weight started, a voice boomed out from the food line, 'Who put this on?' I looked up … Kenny Lynch and his driver. "I did," I said. "In that case we'll sit with you," said Kenny and brought his drink over. He sang along to both sides.
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Posted by:Dag B.
Web: My linkSubject: The Band in 1983-86
Thanks, Greg!
Here's a new version of the latest file, I had forgotten to include the reunion tour dates and some other stuff.
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Posted by:GregD
Subject: reunion tour
Dag: The Hamilton concert venue was Hamilton Place, and Kitchener was Centre-in-the Square. Both could be considered proper mid-sized concert halls. Still have my signed ticket stubs after all these years. Am enjoying all your historical works on the various years and eras of the Band!
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Posted by:Dag B.
The Band's reunion tour started with a trip across Canada.Halifax, Montreal (July 2), Camp Fortune (July 3), Toronto (July 4), Hamilton (July 7), Kitchener (July 8), London (July 9), Regina (July 13), Calgary (July 14), Edmonton (July 16), Vancouver (July 18)
Does anyone know the date of the Halifax show and the venues for Hamilton and Kitchener?
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandSubject: Haso
It’s complicated, Haso. There seems to be a nationalist rally every weekend. They’re colourful with the rampant lion and St Andrews flags.
However it looks as if it is still 55 per cent for the union and 45 per cent independence.
Some people voted for the SNP because they are seen as the social Democratic Party, taking on the role that Labour used to play or seen as the party of remain. The vast majority here are strongly remain.
Labour’s demise up here happened long before Jeremy Corbyn and is hard to fathom. They used to weigh the votes.
This is all set against a background of contempt for politicians, which is only going to get worse with Alex Salmond’s upcoming trial.
Personally, I’m fed up with constitutional affairs. I wish our highly paid representatives would get on with solving problems, for example homelessness or our horrendous drug problem or children living in poverty. The gap between rich and poor is too great.
But I love living in a small, beautiful country, if you can tolerate rain. So I’m not sure what’s going to happen. Take care, Haso mate.
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Posted by:Jon Lyness
Location: NYCSubject: Re: Christmas Must Be Tonight
Real glad Hank is still out there performing! That’s a very nice cover.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: North western coastSubject: Hank Wedel / More of The Best of Best in gb
GOOD TO SEE OL' HANK MENTIONED HERE. He is (was) from Cork, Ireland. I had a nice chat with him back then. He was "amused" that - when playing in Scandinavia - people didn't ask about his fabulous Band versions. They asked only about Irish beer-drinking whisky-drinking Irish pub songs. Nothing wrong with it, I have been drinking a half of a bottle of Irish whisky on this stormy morning before lunch here on the coast.
On a serious side: people (he himself?) told that he is dead. I mean REALLY dead. DEAD!!! I was sad, really sad. He seems to be alive and kicking. DON'T DO THIS IN GB!!!
BTW I died for eight minutes ago after eating too many Swedish meat balls. Hallelujah!
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Hank W
That’s great news Jan; I thought he was another good one here one that had passed!
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Posted by:jh
Web: My linkSubject: Hank's "Christmas"
This is indeed our old GB'er Hank from the sweet cove of Cork! Link to the YouTube release of the CMBT cover.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Hank Wedel
Is that Hank from Cork that used to post here? He had great insights, not unlike David P.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Hank Wedel
It comes up on youtube too Jan. Really nice job of the song.
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Posted by:jh
Web: My link
New EP from lovely Irishman Hank Wedel and friends, with a beautiful cover of "Christmas Must Be Tonight"! (link goes to Spotify)
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Mistake
Hi Haso. Just realized I made a mistake. It was the band Great White not White Snake. I should have realized there are videos on youtube of that fire. Makes you sick to watch it.
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Posted by:Wallsend
In the last Australian election, Labour lost when they should have easily won. The leader of the party was so unpopular he was simply unelectable. After the loss, he resigned but was replaced by a virtual clone. The problem is that the only people that can work their way to the top through the party machine are people with no popular appeal. It seems Corbyn is similar. In the US as well, none of the Democratic candidates look very appealing. Nowadays you need people who look good on social media. Trump and Johnson may be idiots but they fit in with the trend of the times.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: More politics
Read this Guardian article by Polly Toynbee. She is considered very left wing and she's tougher against Corbyn than I was.
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Posted by:haso
Location: seacoast NHSubject: white snake
Yeah, Norm I remember that club fire. I think it was called The Station. I believe they finally settled on the make-up of the ceiling panels as the most egregious cause (along w/ the pyrotechnics being too close to those surfaces. If memory serves, I visited an aunt who lived quite close (in Warwick, RI), maybe a year or 2 later. The burned-out hulk was still there. I imagine it remained a crime scene for a while and an insurance nightmare as well. The owners went bankrupt and I believe spent time in jail from the fallout. Something north of 100 concertgoers perished. Also, I believe a cousin from the same part of my family had friends amongst the victims.
Anyway, wishing you British Isle folk the best. Dunc, do you think this will finally tip the scales in faire Scotland to cast your lot w/ the continent?
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: PV’s election analysis
Great work Peter. Here, the extremely close calls since our 2000 election of W have been so pivotal in regard to what could have been, but for mere handfuls of votes. Ah Bartelby, Ah humanity.
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Posted by:Pat B
Web: My link
Osaka show from 1983.
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Posted by:Mike Nomad
Subject: UK elxn
A swotty analysis, to be sure.
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Posted by:Jon Lyness
Location: NYC
Peter, Roger, I grieve with you. Tough outcome for sure.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: About Boris... to my internet friend Peter
"Lay down your weary tune, lay down." This will be just great, wait and see.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Politics (scroll by)
Instant morning after reaction to the election results (FOLLOW LINK) written right off without stopping. I was up till 5 a.m. Rash? Harsh? Judgemental? All of the above.
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Posted by:Wallsend
I only just got my copy of the Brown album. I had to order it online as they are not selling it in shops in Australia. I really like it a lot. Sound is crystal clear and the outtakes are good. They really seemed out of place at the Woodstock festival. Great playing but not the kind of thing people wanted to hear I think. I am not surprised it hasn't been released until now.
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Posted by:Roger
Location: Birmingham UKSubject: The moron count
JQ - naahh - our moron count looks like it matches yours...
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Kissing the Mike
I have done it more than once and actually saw a big spark arc there. It is scarey. Saw many electric shocks light people up. I also knew a guy who walked right in front of the front end speakers when the guitar player peeled off a couple of high note licks and ruptured his ear drum. There has been many sad lessons learned messing with this technical stuff.
I just noted looking around at this stuff, real time analizers can be just computer soft ware now.
I expect many remember the fire caused by the pyrotechnics of "White Snake" quite a few years back. I don't care how safe some think that stuff can be, I would never be on a stage with any of it.
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandSubject: Correction
John Lennon and Alma Cogan
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandI remember the matchsticks in the sockets, Peter, when I worked in the docks.
Peter’s trilogy documents the sixties well from variety to dancing to concerts in the university years to the band scene. I never had any experience of working in bands, which features in the third book, but the amount of concerts I attended was huge.
I loved going dancing and if there was a Scottish variant from the UK scene, concerts in Scotland often broke out into dancing. I remember a Jethro Tull concert with hundreds around the stage bopping away. I remember the band responding and playing dance music.
Variety was important, but disappeared. I noticed that John Wetton was in Helen Shapiro’s band and she was definitely variety. I remember the supposed affair between John Lennon and Helen Shapiro.
A sad footnote. Last week Ian Sutherland of Sutherland Brothers died. I still play the first two albums. It would be his brother, who made the big money from Sailing.
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Posted by:Pat B
I was onstage at an outdoor festival in 1971 and our singer got zapped by his mic after a slight sprinkle. It knocked him flat on his back.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Music To Watch Girls By
Link to my novel about 1967, Music To Wtch Girls By. This describes the set breaking. The people are fictional, but the stuff about the show is real.
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Posted by:Peter V
I had that discussion this week. e.g. In 1975 Gary Thain of Uriah Heep "kissed the mic" as they said and never really recovered. It is very basic … earthing. Today, bands travel with qualified electricians. Back in the 60s (as in my short story) you might use two matchsticks to put wires in an unfamiliar socket, and yes, people died. When I was working in 1970, there were four different plug and socket varieties. We travelled with a box full of 13 and 15 amp and 5 amp plugs, but short cuts happened. Wrong. But they did.
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Posted by:Dunc
Location: ScotlandSubject: Interesting posts
Interesting posts Bill, Pat, Peter and Norm.
I felt I learned something new. I’m still involved in my retirement journey through Scottish music.
I didn’t realise until I reading about Alex Harvey how recent the introduction of the electric bass was and how difficult it was to get one in the UK.
But what is really sad was that Alex Harvey’s brother, Les Harvey was electrocuted on stage when playing with Stone The Crows in the early seventies. I saw Stone the Crows and they were a good band. A couple of times in the early seventies, I did see members of bands receiving shocks on stage.
So here’s the question, how dangerous would electric concerts be in the early sixties and seventies?
Sorry to hear of your loss Critter. I hope you get some rest and peace.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Some things are the same
Haven't looked at sound equipment in years. Looking on the net I found a page with Brock bins. The ones like I had a shown. They have wheels in the back end so you can tip them up and roll them. The Peavey page shows the SP2's I had look about the same. However the amplifiers are much different than in the 80's.
The rack I had on wheels containing the amplifiers, eq and effects was on wheels and took 2 guys to lift it. I was mistaken the amplifying was 600 watts on the bottom 400 on the mids and 200 on the high end and 400 for stage monitors. I could just get all that stuff in my truck. Not being in a financial position to have paid any road people we did all the moving and setup our selves. A lot of work.
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Posted by:Bill M
Pat B: Thanks - even the weedy is interesting when it comes from you. I gather that Bob did BTM from Richard's piano, even though that took him farther from Garth and entailed a daily redirection of the spotlight.
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Posted by:Peter V
Transporting a grand piano must have been a nightmare. Did they ever fly it? I would assume it confined the crew to road in North America. Surely in Europe they must have rented / used the hall Steinway? (They all had Steinways).When I was working on stage shows, we had to break the Variety Show set on Saturday night, and set up the concert hall set for Sunday’s symphony orchestra concert. We all signed out at 11 pm, and signed back in at 11.05 as “casual labour” for cash. One job was rolling the variety show Steinway into the wings, and rolling on the symphony Steinway. They were identical and I assumed it was some sort of attitude about the regular band bashing the keys.
We had a piano tuner who spent the 1950s playing in Glasgow dance bands. He also did the symphony orchestra piano. He explained that the symphony piano was at concert pitch (i.e. UK concert pitch, which differs from German concert pitch). The piano for the main show was tuned to “dance band pitch” as he called it. This was very slightly sharp to make it sound brighter. He tuned the piano our kids used and if you provided good coffee and chocolate biscuits, he would play for 15 minutes or so while simultaneously telling me dirty jokes and dance band tales. Brilliant man. RIP.
Back to the 1960s shows, just rolling the Steinways a few yards into the wings meant the tuning had to be checked. I assume that transporting a piano by truck meant a full tuning job daily.
A few years ago we saw a lunchtime harpsichord recital. The player had five harpsichords of various vintages (all very old) on stage to demonstrate the evolution. He said that it took him most of the morning to tune all five when he unloaded them.
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Posted by:Rod
Thanks Pat. Nice to see that Piano is still being used. Payne also said that the Piano was sold about the time The Band moved out of Shangri-La - 79 I think.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Brexit
Good luck Peter V; hopefully your moron class isn’t as powerful as ours..
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Posted by:Pat B
Web: My link
At :58 you can see and hear Richard's Steinway. It still sounds great.
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Posted by:Pat B
Firstly, Richard got his own Steinway in the late 60's. Bill Payne does have a nice article online (referenced earlier) that describes that process. Notice in all the photos of the Hawks and The Band up to 1973 that the lid of the piano is open. That tells me that the piano is being mic'ed from just above the strings and the soundboard (two, maybe three mic's). The soundman would then distribute his signal into the stage monitors so everyone could hear him. Recall here that they spent a lot of time sound checking to get the balance just right (sometimes longer than the actual show!). However you will also notice that some time after 1974 (still open on the Dylan 74 tour and summer 74 shows), the piano's top is down and the piano is covered by what appears to be a moving blanket--see photos of the 76 tour and the Last Waltz. Probable explanation: a company called Helpinstill created an electromagnetic pickup system for pianos in 1972. Bill Payne says that Richard's Steinway had the markings on the soundboard that that very system had been installed. To isolate the piano from outside vibrations (especially bass amps--Rick's was nearby) they would encase the piano in a sound deadening cover. It's quite evident in the Last Waltz. Richard could then control the level of the three pickups which were placed on the soundboard to cover the low, mid-range, and high strings and put that summed signal through his onstage amp--the same one he used for his Hohner clavinette and (later) his ARP synthesizer. Richard later used a Kawai electric grand, basically a mini grand piano with a similar pickup system that was lighter and easier to transport. His Steinway is now in Ultratone Studios in Studio City, CA.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: Sound!
Glad I just stopped by here. Pretty interesting to hear what Pat and Peter have to say. I'm very sure you know far more than me about sound Pat so I'm interested to know your thoughts on what I have to say.
When I was playing pretty large clubs, (not show rooms or auditoriums) just pretty big, what we call cabarette clubs out here. I wouldn't really know the sq. foot of the rooms but they hold about 600 people. Anyway my sound system was 1200 watts up front. 800 on the bass bins, 200 on the mids and 200 on the high. We had 600 on the on stage monitors. We had a sound man would come in the day we were setting up in a club. He would blow "Pink sound" and set the eq graph. As we started to play we would then tweak the graph on a 24 channel board.
I am wondering if you have ever heard of "Ralph Brock" he is a guy in Vancouver BC who builds these bass bins. They are huge! I bought a set for these big rooms we played. Not kidding. If you stood in front of one and the drummer was setting his kick drum sound it hits you in the chest so hard it was like a hand hitting you.
We could be so loud it was uncomfortable. Thank fully this sound man Ruddy taught me how to control that. However I am very interested in how you guys explain miking pianos.
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Posted by:Rod
Read an article by Bill Payne discussing Richard's grand from The Band days. Evidentially they used a system called the "hedgehog" (I think) to mic it up. It invloved alot of screws inside the piano.
Something I often wondered about is who owned the groups instruments. The keyboards would have been alot more expensive than the guitars. I think Rick's Rippers and Ampegs were donated by the manufacturers anyway.
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Posted by:Pat B
Not to get too into the weeds, but Alderson used Electro Voice 666's for the amps and the piano. I'm guessing he used two mic's on the piano because one would have given him an unbalanced sound. In the footage of the time you can see at least one mic on the piano. It also sounds like he used two mic's on Garth's Leslie. Hard to mic one of those with just one mic, but now you are running into the limitations of 10 mixing channels.
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Posted by:Peter V
Fascinating insights, Pat. Presumably they would have used a dedicated piano mic? Did they exist back then? I recall using two (or maybe three) ordinary mics for acoustic piano circa 1970. Certainly two mics on our mid 70s shows with Steinway baby Grand.Fast forwards to 2019 (and the gig I organized for the palmer james group) we were told to put the Yamaha keyboard through the PA, as straight guitar amps couldn't handle the left hand of piano well. Our keyboard player dated back to having twin Leslie speakers. We had a separate monitor for piano so he could hear himself.
I do recall that acoustic piano was always a bastard to mic up, plus inevitably out of tune unless tuned directly before the show.
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Posted by:Pat B
Bill M makes an interesting observation which begs the question: what did Dylan/Hawks sound like onstage to the musicians? First off, despite the crowd memories of intense volume, the group did not use a lot of amplification. Dylan and RR look like they are using Fender Bandmasters which included two 12" speakers driven by a 40 watt amp. Looks like Rick was using a Fender Bassman, a 50 watt amp driving a combo of either 12" or 15" speakers. Garth's Lowrey ran through a 40 watt Leslie. By today's standards, that is not a lot of power.Richard Alderson did the live mixes. He had each amp mic'ed and what looks like two mic's on the drums and piano. For a mixing board he used two Altec 1567A's which gave him ten channels. For power he used 3 Macintosh 275's which delivered two channels of 75 watts a piece. The PA was an Altec speaker system, possibly the Voice of the Theater system. Crucially, there were no stage monitors.
Now we know The Hawks could get a good stage mix but a mic'ed piano with no monitors is going to be a continuing problem. They certainly didn't play quiet enough to hear the piano by itself. There is also footage of Dylan during soundcheck complaining to Alderson that he couldn't hear his vocals very well from the stage, which means he was relying on the sound of his voice coming back to him after being amplified into the hall--remember, no stage monitors. Given all these factors, the stage sound would have been very different depending where you were onstage. Dylan and RR would have been in the best stage positions. They could hear Garth, RR's amp, the drums and Rick's amp clearly by balancing the sound with their own controls. Dylan's voice would have been the room/hall sound and subject to vagaries, and the piano would be the least heard instrument with only two mic's and no monitors. Rick would have heard the piano better since he was right next to it, but the difference in impact between an acoustic instrument and an amplifier is massive. Sitting at the piano would have been problematic. No monitor to hear yourself, a long way from Garth, a bit closer to RR but well within audio reach of Rick and the drums. The only benefit is that you are closer to the PA on stage left, but the PA would sound pretty muffled if you were behind it because of the physical properties of speaker enclosures.
Alderson got really good mixing live and making his recordings of the mixes. The musicians listened to them and knew they sounded good even though it probably didn't sound as good onstage. Many audience members complained that they couldn't hear Dylan's voice during the electric part of the show. The combo of the four amps and live drums probably overwhelmed the PA, but those tapes show that Dylan and the Hawks delivered under some pretty trying technical circumstances.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: The Best of The Best on gb
I continue my serie on fabulous gb regulars (and today even lurkers.)
To all you playgirls here in gb: today's cute guy is NORBERT. "Norbert is a gem" like the famous gb lurker Zimmy once wrote, cryptically. (More of Zimmy in this serie later on, stay tuned. BTW I have his permission to call him for Zimmy.)
Norbert "fooled" me to to act as a debuty moderator in the Legacy of The Band Guestbook. As always, it was me who fooled myself. I was falattered. I had to pay for it (not money, it was actually Norbert himself who payd to have this gb in the server!). The hacking activity made me (and my wife) to contact Swedish Internet Police. They were interested in this gb: it was a "perfect" forum for middle aged pedos. I - for myself - learned that there is nothing to do.
I have spoken with Norbert's mother in telephone. Being Bob Dylan I probably could write a song of it.
With that said: the guy should be hanged. Slowly.
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Posted by:Mike Nomad
Subject: Cabbagetown person
Wishing you cupcakes today.
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Posted by:Bill M
Rod: I think Garth's amazing on BTM at every show, which is why I wondered if Bob wanted a ringside seat - facing Garth from a piano bench.
Speaking of which, did Dylan simply take over Richard's piano, or was there always a second piano nearer centre stage for him to play. And what did Richard do with his free time - play maracas?
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Posted by:Rod
Subject: Thin Man
I'm picking Bob wrote it on piano. The progression is very effective and relatively easy to play. It could be quite difficult on guitar unless you are in Am or Bm (or using a capo). Not one you can just strum chords to. Even so on some of those 66 clips he doesn't always do much on guitar so perhaps he just liked a change. Garth's parts on BTF are amazing.
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Posted by:Bill M
Thanks all. I still wonder why just that song of all songs. I would say Dylan adds anything in particular to the sound (not forgetting that he wrote it).
In other news, I opened up the listings just now and see that Cashmere Magnus plays down the street in an hour and a bit.
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Posted by:Dave H
The funny thing is that Dylan now mostly plays piano on stage (supposedly he has arthritis which makes a full set of guitar-playing painful) but "Thin Man" is one of the few songs he performs with guitar...
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Posted by:Pat B
Lots of footage from 66 of Dylan playing piano on Thin Man.
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Posted by:Dag B.
Subject: Thin Man
Dylan also played piano on the song at the Forest Hills and Hollywood Bowl concerts in 1965, before the tour with the Hawks. And again on the 1974 tour.
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Posted by:Dave H
Bill M: Don't know for sure, but Dylan played piano on the studio version of "Thin Man" too...he probably just wanted to accompany himself the same way he did on the album.
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Posted by:Bill M
I have a question. The background is that I'm still working through the Dylan / Hawks shows in the UK in '66. It wasn't until the Cardiff show, when Dylan talked a bit about the piano, that I realised that he'd gotten into the habit of taking over for Richard for "Ballad Of A Thin Man". Since Richard seems to me to have been a much better pianist, and clearly enjoyed the role on that tour, I'm wondering why. Did Dylan wish to commune more directly with Sir Garth, whose big song this was? Something of a call-and-response thing.
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Posted by:John D
Web: My linkSubject: Rick Danko
What a voice. What a bass player. What a wonderful man.
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Posted by:John D
Subject: Simcoe
Yes Bill, all 3 hailed from Simcoe Ontario; in the tobacco belt.
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Posted by:Peter V
Subject: Simcoe
That one had never occurred to me, Bill. Good point.
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Posted by:Bill M
Andy: I've always thought it was Rick having fun, riffing on the fact that he and his band-mate brother Terry hailed from Simcoe. Quite possibly Jim Atkinson did too.
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Posted by:Andy M70
Location: London, EnglandSubject: Rick Danko ‘New Mexicoe / Mexico’
I wonder if anyone can settle a debate for me?
The track ‘New Mexicoe’ on Rick Danko’s 1977 debut studio album is listed as ‘New Mexicoe’ on the original vinyl release, and most CD reissues.
I’ve also seen the song listed as ‘New Mexico’ (as on the 2000 European EMI release).
Does anyone know which is the correct spelling? I’m wondering if ‘New Mexicoe’ is a typo, or if that is the actual title of the track!
Thanks in advance, Andy
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Posted by:Bill M
Calm: Deepest condolences on your loss. Thanks for taking the time to post.
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Posted by:Rod
Thanks Dag. I love reading those old articles
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Posted by:critter
Subject: CalmTo all former friends of Calm (Gail), I'm sorry to tell you that she lost her battle with cancer last night. All of your contact information is in her computer, which hasn't worked for awhile. My email address is still the same, if you need it. I am able to get to the online version of her email account, but it doesn't contain the contact info.
To the regular Guestbook members, please forgive me for this intrusion. The chat room and friends here were always special, and this was the meeting place.
All of you, please take care.
critter
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Posted by:Dag B.
Web: My linkSubject: The Band in 1983-86
Another one...
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Australian Pink Floyd Show
Review added of The Australian Pink Floyd Show, at Bournemouth International Centre, 7 December 2019. They vie with The Bootleg Beatles as the most elaborate and popular of tribute bands, easily filling large halls a year ahead. They have a massive light show and sound like the real thing, but … well., I was critical. Read the review.
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Posted by:Bill M
Peter V, jh: Thanks for the "Driftin' Away" and Chambers Bros videos. Rick was brilliant on vocals; I wish he'd sung the whole song. As for the Chambers, I wonder if drummer Brian Keenan pushed for them to give it a try, since he would have known the Hawks from their days in NJ.
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Posted by:NorthWestCoaster
Location: Greater CopenhagenSubject: The Best of The Best of gb profiles
Next person in my serie "The Best Of The Best of gb profiles" is Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran.
He is a strange guy (in positive meaning) in the history of gb. Hosting once a rock music show in Wisconsin, being a hippie and a Grateful Dead fan with psychedelic homesite in Geocities. I told him that the legendary mountain bike rider Gary Fisher from Marin County was Dead's light show manager. (I know at least SOMETHING!) By that time i rode mountain bike races with a Gary Fisher bike and "everybody" knew that. Not SUNDOG, though.
"Last time I saw Tim was in Vegas". No, this is not true but it sounds like ROCK'N'ROLL, does it.
What makes Tim so special is that he is probably the last person in gb who saw Rick Danko performing live. He posted selfies from that show which were a pain to see for people who were close to him. I understand. But I found peace in those photos. Rick was .... Rick.
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Posted by:Rod
Love that Driftin' Away video. Nice vocals and bass from Rick.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: palmer james group
I've been tied up in an unusual role promoting a private gig by my oldest and best friends,the palmer james group, who disbanded 51years ago. After stellar careers they re-assembled from England, Germany and the USA for this special performance. Follow the link to see lots of pictures and review.
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: These Days
To see a real wonderful and emotional video, search on youtube. Gregg Alman & Jackson Browne "segment". There is some real good interview segment including with Don Was. Jackson Browne wrote this song, however Gregg Allman recorded it first. They became very good friends and this is a video of them singing it together on stage........beautiful.
Well watching the video Peter posted, on my sidebar was another video I put up and watched. Rick Danko and Garth, "Twilight".....the best.
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Posted by:Jon Lyness
Location: NYCSubject: DFA live 1991...
Thanks Peter, that's just lovely. I saw Rick live a number of times in the 90s and as much as I enjoyed the performances I didn't often see that level of focus.
As a related point of interest, Jonas Fjeld has collaborated with Judy Collins on a new album called Winter Stories. They've been touring together on it and just wrapped up a NYC residency.
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Posted by:Peter V
Web: My linkSubject: Driftin' Away
Rick Danko on "Driftin' Away" - Norwegian TV 1991. From Terry Danko's Facebook page. Incredible!
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Posted by:Solomon
Subject: Nick LoweAmazon are selling Cruel To Be Kind: The Life and Music of Nick Lowe for nearly half price as a limited time deal. The Convincer is one of my top ten albums of all time.
Beautiful version of The Weight by The Chambers Brothers. It reminded me of The Holmes Brothers great version of Nick's (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding.
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Posted by:jh
Web: My link
Silky smooth cover of "The Weight", recorded 45 years ago by the amazing Chambers Brothers. Enjoy.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Nick Lowe bio
There’s a number of Band references in the book. NL and Brinsley Schwartz were big fans. When The Band came over for the Wimbley performance they set up and rehearsed at the Brinsley’s music place and borrowed their gear, except for Garth. NL commented that their instruments had never sounded so good!
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: New Nick Lowe bio
PV - I just finished this and thought it was great. The writer is Will Branch. He’s obviously a big fan but I thought he was also objective. There’s loads of info on the English music scene from the 50’s right up to the present; history and people you’d likely be much more familiar with than me. I haven’t been overly impressed with all the music biographies out these days; some are very poorly written, including typos and spelling errors. This one is top notch I’d say.
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Posted by:JQ
Subject: Lovely England
It seems to be a thing on Brit TV to set some programs in stunning places: The Detectorists, Vera, George Gently, Shetland, Father John?, one with a Scottish detective looking for a child killer in a beachy resort place, etc. There was one with a rich woman from London who settles into a bucolic Cotswolds (sp?) village and solves murders there. I’ve never been outside London but some of those places depicted look quite appealing. We have a thanksgiving tradition of watching Local Hero and that Scotty place has great appeal too - it’s a very well written movie and we can now do most of the dialog ourselves with the sound off; any newcomer guests just think we (me mostly) are wankers showing off!
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Posted by:Norm J
Location: Pacific NorthwestSubject: The Beauty of the UK
This post is for any one who is interested, but particularly for Peter, Dunc and any of our other UK friends. Since retiring in the last couple years I have very much enjoyed being able just to lay back with no pressure of business on my mind and enjoy a lot of really great movies.
One of the things I most enjoy is being able to get over to my desk and look up where the film locations are. Example is the beauty of New Zealand in the "Lord of the Ring" series.
I am just watching "Snow White and the Huntsman" as I am a fan of both Charlise Theron and Chris Hemsworth. It is filmed in places in the UK I know little about and there is so much to see. Also the Rob Roy with Liam Neeson in the Highlands was wonderful. It is making me enthusiastic to see some of that country. I so much enjoyed the out back of Australia and also Tasmania.
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Posted by:ray mizumura
Subject: The IrishmanI enjoyed the picture and found it quite moving as well as witty in places.
The pace and tone contrasted with previous examples of the genre directed by Mr. Scorsese, confirming his artistry and range once again. Fine work by all involved. I am glad to be around during his career, and the same goes for those of DeNiro, Pacino, and Robbie Robertson.
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Posted by:Rod
Just finished the Irishman. It was ok.my teenagers really enjoyed it. They're into Italian gangster movies.
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Posted by:Kevin J
Subject: The Irishman & Shag Time WillyMarty lost a lot off his fastball a long long time ago........everything he does contains some bits of brilliance but only bits. There was a feeling in the film community dating back decades that the "Director's Cut" of a film was always the best version of any film........it almost never was ! The Irishman demonstrates why the studios ussualy knew what they were doing.........no one has better ears on the selection of music to put in films than RR, though.......still the case.
Once Were Brothers is playing at the Hot Docs theatre Bloor and Bathurst
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