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The Band Guestbook, December 2020


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: addendum to previous post

In legend and myth, Lilith seems to have started out as a prototypical strong, independent woman (and as such was the namesake of Sarah McLachlan's Lilith Fair concerts). However, male society did its usual thing and turned her into a devious temptress in league with the devil - as in the Hasidic fable. I understand that the operatic Carmen was a strong, independent temptress, while the Weight-y Carmen was both independent and in league with the devil. So Robbie seems to have stuck with the Hasidic script as far as the second verse, though changing the woman's name. Then things get murky: the narrator does go 'down', where 'down' seems more likely to be hell (meaning he took Carmen's advice and teamed up with the devil) than just downtown. What and where his old friend Luke was, and what Luke was proposing the narrator do with 'young Annalee', is open to interpretation. The business with Chester and his pooch is totally off the Lilith script.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I just reread your D&tSH article after a good number of years. A very fine piece of work. The other day I was struck by the obvious fact that Miss Fanny and the narrator of "The Weight" (let's call him Levon) were former residents (and possibly natives) of Nazareth. So when I got to your mention of narrator Levon having heard of the harp back in his hometown, I again thought of Nazareth.

This might suggest that Daniel hailed from "down the line" from Nazareth, wherever Levon and Miss Fanny lived at the time of "The Weight". Me, I think Nazareth PA is Robbie BS. Nazareth in Palestine also seems unlikely, even if the Sea of Galilee is temptingly close. I see it as an adaptation of Nezkhizh, the hometown of Rabbi Mordecai, an early Hasidic master, and that Robbie got his opening verse from the "Lilith" fable that he'd read in Bob Dylan's copy of Martin Buber's "Tales of the Hasidim". Grossman had given Dylan the book years earlier, but it seems that Dylan didn't really look at it until the Basement period.

A shared awareness of the source is reflected, I think, in both Dylan's pastiche of the opening lines of "The Weight" in "Lo And Behold" and in Dylan's proud response to Robbie's finished product (as described in "Testimony").


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York

Started reading a Jambase article about Rick Danko and came to a quote from... *myself*, from a review on this site, twenty years ago. LOL. I think I've reached the end of the internet.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York

YouTube has a great performance of The Weight made by a largish group of young people in 2015. It's got over a million views, so not sure how I missed it! Search "The Weight (A Thank You)" on YouTube and it's the first hit. Sweet soulful version with some inventive touches.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Celebrating The Oft-Overlooked Talent Of Rick Danko On His Belated Birthday [Videos]

Michael Broerman
Tuesday, December 29th, 2020

"Born on December 29th, 1943 in Blayney, Ontario, Danko grew up in a musical household of Ukrainian immigrants. At night his mother would let him stay up late to listen to the Grand Ole Opry broadcasts out of Nashville, where he developed a musical palette consisting of Hank Williams, the Carter Family, and, later, Sam Cooke.

Though he wasn’t the face of the operation like Robbie Robertson or Helm, Danko’s bass and vocal work laid the foundation for The Band’s success. Today, for what would have been Richard Clare Danko’s 78th birthday, take a look back at his contribution to The Band’s celebrated American rock and roll songbook."

Remembering Rick Danko celebrating his (belated) BIRTHDAY up in heaven

Irresistible with immeasurable musical talent

Caring person who helped a Band friend/fan/poster and who cared about his hood

Kept the faith at all times


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JANUARY 23, 2014
NICK DERISO
The Band, “Daniel and the Sacred Harp” from Stage Fright (1970): Across the Great Divide

“Daniel and the Sacred Harp” is the Robert Johnson narrative, but from another, even more mystical time — an Old Testament time. And, this being the Band, it’s presented with a series of twists: Not as a shotgun-shack rattling blues, but as a kind of Appalachian lament, made complete by Rick Danko’s sawing fiddle and a turn on this old-timey pump organ by Garth Hudson. It’s not focused on an old guitar, either, but with something that recalls a dog-eared Deep South songbook from a lost era, The Sacred Harp by B.F. White.

That there is more at stake here than a musician and his soul, of course, is obvious. We hear whispers of a larger innocence lost, something that must have rung true for a generation then leaving the 1960s. Still, the crossroads at which the Band then stood, somewhere between stardom and an abyss, looms over this Robbie Robertson lyric like a purpled storm cloud.

Levon Helm, singing with a heart-splashing openness, plays the role of the narrator — offering, in yet another deft move, the chorus as a parenthetical on either end of this song — while Richard Manuel is the desperate Daniel, willing to do anything for a chance to play the sacred instrument. (He also plays drums, while Helm adds acoustic guitar.) They share a tale of sad inevitability for most bands, as they endure bad management deals, bad choices made at a too-late hour out on the road, inter-group squabbles, so on. They get to be famous, but make no mistake, it doesn’t come free. And, in the end, the Band was no different, away from the hagiography of those sepia-toned early album covers. The price that Daniel had paid, he didn’t even know,” Helm cries, as the main character’s fate is sealed. “When he looked to the ground,” Helm adds, “he noticed no shadow did he cast.” Knowing what we know, not just about Manuel’s sad fate but ultimately about the Band itself, that line remains a shattering, goose-pimpled moment.

It wasn’t just that Manuel, though he had a number of important subsequent performances ahead of him, would never write another song after those found on Stage Fright. It was that the Band itself was nearing the end of a sustained period of greatness — and, ultimately, they would never be quite the same again. Somehow, after putting out three brilliant recordings between 1968-70, the Band would manage just three more studio releases through Robertson’s departure in 1977."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Happy Belated Birthday Rick Danko
Dec 29, 2020
Performing Live With The Band In 1973
Nate Todd

"Read an excerpt from The Band’s website penned by JON LYNESS detailing the show below:

"The 2nd show blows away the first in every way, tying or surpassing Watkins Glen as the definitive show from that middle period of the original group. The sound is phenomenal, with all of the instruments sounding crisp and in-your-face, and the Band sounds like they are at the top of their game. A fairly pedestrian setlist (for the time) is elevated by smoking, confident performances by each and every member. Robbie’s guitar in particular stands out…but they all really outdo themselves on this one. Several of the songs (“Back to Memphis”, “Chest Fever”, & others) even feature extended instrumental verses which are breathtaking…I’ve never heard the original lineup jam so much!"

To celebrate Rick Danko’s birthday, listen to the band’s August 1, 1973 concert from Roosevelt Stadium in New Jersey." (Linked)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: I Heard the Owl Call My Name

Thanks Norm. I was aware of the TV movie, but not of the author of the book it was based on, Margaret Craven.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Tony Rice

I looked pretty far and I may have missed but I don't think so. There are not a great many folks around just now, however it must be mentioned that we have just lost one of the greatest flat top guitar pickers who ever lived. No one seems to have noticed. Tony Rice has passed. As Ricky Skaggs has just posted many, many guitar super pickers have cut their teeth learning to play Tony's licks and they all worship him.

Tony Rice is a tattoo left on country and blue grass music.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Margaret Craven

No sorry Bill it was Margaret Craven. She was from Montana. I'd have to look up the town. She spent time up here along the coast. I thought I had read this "novel" of hers was based on a true story but I'm not sure.

An American publisher picked up the book in 1973. It became a New York Times number 1 best seller then CBS made the TV movie out of it. I recall when it was being filmed, because Kingcome Inlet was so remote they did the filming in Barkley Sound out of Port Alberni.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norm: Are you thinking of Margaret Laurence? Great writer. Another of hers was "A Bird In the House", which is about what you might expect.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Greetings Records

Section added on AROUND AND AROUND on Greetings Records. Planned for Xmas Eve but it got delayed by life. The arcane world of greetings cards as records … and not just Christmas either.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: End of year listenings

* The Chi-Lites - Particularly Oh Girl & Have You Seen Her

* Larry Campbell/Theresa Williams’ Contraband Love, 2017

* Swan Silvertones - Everything they did. I think if Claude Jeter had gone secular he would have been the greatest soul singer of ever; he probably was anyway!

* Mothers of Invention - Freak Out, 1966. I think it’s his most accessible LP. Trouble Every Day is remarkably prescient for ‘66.

* John Fahey - Best Of.


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Posted by:

Rod

During lock down a fantail flew into my house. Fortunately it flew straight out again. Must have had the wrong house.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The association of birds with death is pretty much worldwide, I think. When my mother died in 1995, they phoned me at 1 a.m. A few minutes later we heard birdsong right outside. Five of us in the house sat and listened to it. So what birds sing at 1 a.m. on a pitch dark night in February in the rain?


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: I Heard The Owl Call My Name

Your whipporwill story is true however. This native legend is real. In 1967 Margaret (whats-er-name) wrote the book about Mark Brian an Anglican vicar who came to Kingcome native village here in Kingcome Inlet. Not long after he arrived he found he had not long to live. The old native chief on finding of Mark's trouble told him the story of the owl.

The native people came to love him so much they asked him to stay so they could look after him. He is buried in the little cemetary at the village. When it happened he came to the chief and told him, "I heard the owl call my name".

In 1973 it was made to a made for tv movie starring Tom Courtenay. It is a good movie.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Chocolate Orange Rustic French Toast Yum!
Web: My link

Subject: What does it mean when you hear a whippoorwill?

"Whippoorwills singing near a house were an omen of death, or at least of bad luck. ... If an Omaha tribe Native American heard a whippoorwill's called invitation, he or she was advised to decline it. If the bird then stopped calling, a person who had answered would die."

PETER...You had me at.....when I saw the stamp of The Clash!!

LISA...Uhhh....Did you put a return address on the card?! Yiiiiikes!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: You know Hank done it first

I'm So Lonseome I Could Cry:

Hear that lonesome whippoorwill,

He sounds too blue to fly.

The midnight train is whining low,

I'm so lonesome I could cry

Robbie would have known that. One of two Hank Williams songs which mention whipporwills.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Ben: Growing up in Scarborough, an underdeveloped suberb in the late '40s and early '50s, Robbie's childhood would have involved daily encounters with lots and lots of clover - the purple ones that taste like cucumber, the little yellow ones that just sit there and the white ones that grow tall and spindly and can be tunnelled through by little boys. Whippoorwills would have been a known commodity too - one of a number of birds named for their calls (e.g., chickadee, bobolink, killdeer).


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Posted by:

Rod

One more thing...I never liked how the vocals were panned on those songs. Made them sound too thin and isolated


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Posted by:

Rod

Ben, I agree about Daniel.i preferred the out take on the previous SF release as its less polished production and more uptempo feel seemed to suite it better.not a big fan of the rumour either.great lyrics but the performance feels forced. May have worked better as a RM solo vocal


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Daniel

The issues I found with the song yesterday were primarily the lyrics and Levon's voice. This was a very unusual song for Robbie and the choice of words used just struck a discordant tone with me. Some of the unusual words that stuck out to me are clover, procession, whipporwhill and the line near the end of the song 'no shadow did he cast' with cast used to rhyme with pass. This language really seems forced and very unusual compared to Robbie's other songs. And the sound of these words coming out of Levon's voice really left me feeling that something is amiss.

Maybe if Rick or Richard had taken the lead vocal, I would have had a different reaction to it. I don't know. But, I honestly never gave this song that much thought one way or the other prior to yesterday. I did listen to the Steve Hoffman DCC cd, so I wonder if that had anything to do with it. When I get a chance I will listen to a different version of the album.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Daniel & The Sacred Harp

As I mentioned in the article, Levon doing the narrative then Richard coming in as the character. Loved it the first time I heard it.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Daniel, Daniel...

I'd be interested, Ben, why you are so sour on Daniel. When I first heard it it I was wowed by it in many ways. Its concise narrative, its balance of between contemporary tone and ancient mythology. Like, Dan, WTF? This YOUR harp? Riiight! Where'd ja get it? Then Daniel tells his Old Testament tale of triumph and woe. All this and an accordion and fiddle breakdown! Brilliant.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I'm on Peter V's side of the fence on D&TSH - it's a terrific song. One of Robbie's relatively few narrative, where C follows B follows A - certainly not up there with "The Weight", TNTDODD, "Shootout in Chinatown" or "Acadian Driftwood", but far better than TMSO. None of them is totally scruitable, but D&TSH and "The Weight" are in a class by themselves.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Daniel & The Sacred Harp

One of my all time favourite Band songs. Link to the article I did on this site … must be 20 years ago! I don't know that many long words anymore.


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Posted by:

Bob

Location: Arkansas

Subject: Christmas Must Be Tonight

We always play Christmas Must be Tonight at Christmas time. We also play it in July or whenever the mood strikes us. What the hey. Great song.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Stage Fright and Cahoots

I've been in the house today without anything on the schedule so I played the Band's 3rd and 4th albums back to back. So, I have some fresh observations on these albums. First off, both albums are a step or (steps) down from the first two albums. Stage Fright is good, very good even. But, it's short, quite a bit shorter than the brown album. And the song that really sticks out as a clunker is 'Daniel and the sacred harp'. Maybe I never payed that much attention to the lyrics before, but this stood out as the weakest song on a fine album. There are a number of highlights 'Sleeping', 'Time to kill', 'Just another whistle stop', 'The shape I'm in', 'W.S. Walcott medicine show' and of course 'Stage fright'.

Then I listened to Cahoots, and I actually enjoyed it more than I have in the past. The album starts strongly with 'Life is a Carnival' and 'When I paint my masterpiece'. There are several songs that are a mixed bag. They are enjoyable on a certain level, but are all flawed, primarily in terms of the lyrics. These songs are the meat of the album. The songs I would put in this category are 'Last of the blacksmiths', 'Where do we go from here', 'Shootout in Chinatown', 'Thinkin out loud' and 'Smoke signal'. And then there are two dreadful songs, songs that should never have made the album, these are 'The moon struck one' and 'Volcano'. Those songs are the real stinkers, they weigh the album down. If they would have been left off and replaced by 'Endless highway' and 'Get up Jake', the album would have been far better.

So, in short my opinion of Stage Fright is largely unchanged, although I recognize that 'Daniel and the sacred harp' is a pretty bad song and my view of Cahoots has improved a bit. It's still a step down from Stage Fright (which in turn was a step down from the brown album) but it's not the disaster that I've long believed it to be.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Peter V: I've never wet for a song, not even "Oh What A Feeling" - but to each their own.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: I Want To Stay Here

While we’re putting up these In English Book 3 songs from 15 years ago, we might as well do more. This is Gerry Goffin & Carole King’s “I Want To Stay Here” (LINKED) – it was a big hit back in the day, but doesn’t appear on any Goffin-King compilations. Audio is here. We wet for a facsimile cover version. I always loved the song.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Me too, Bill. I love that song. And it was featured in one of my favorite episodes of due South, a quirky Canadian TV series about a Mountie that really featured a lot of Canadian groups and musicians. To this day the program has very devoted fans. Something about this song just makes you want to jump up!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Roly Greenway, RIP

Roly's name will mean nothing to most, but he co-wrote and sang the first verse of Crowbar's epic and timeless "Oh What A Feeling" (at link). Can't get enough of that song.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Stay

Just put up the first audio file on my blog. STAY from In English-Book 3, our cover of Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs classic (as also done by The Four Seasons, The Hollies, Jackson Browne). This was specially recorded for IN ENGLISH (now out of print). Follow the link to the page.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Oh, Christmas LP was 'Secrets and Lies' by Jakko Jakszyk of King Crimson. A good idea, vinyl LP with a CD slipped inside.

My ear worm this week is continual … Dazzling Blue by Paul Simon. It just hasn't stopped playing in my head for days.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Soi this is Christmas …

(I posted this on my FB page too) Count your blessings. We saw our six English grandkids out of doors on a bright sunny but very cold day. We had a fourth birthday on Christmas Day plus a first Christmas too for his baby brother. So we did cake, candles and some outdoor games (What’s the time, Mr Wolf?) The most successful Christmas present was a traditional Jack In The Box which played Pop Goes The weasel with a pop up clown. It had the 11 month old laughing so he couldn’t stop.

So we had Xmas dinner in the evening, unusually. Just the two of us, for the first time since 1974 in Istanbul. When you do dinner for ten or twelve, food is lukewarm at best by the time it’s on the table. Brussels sprouts are much nicer hot. I’d never realized. We always look forward to cold turkey with bubble and squeak on Boxing Day, but just realized … we’ll have to roast some potatoes and cook some sprouts first When you have a dozen you have bowls of leftovers for bubble and squeak. For two, you just cook enough and plate it.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Not surprisingly, music appeared under the Xmas tree overnight - in the form of the Blind Faith album, a Mingus album and an Impulse boxed set. Listening to Blind Faith (if any LP needs remastering, it's this one), it struck me that the two masterpieces, Clapton's "In The Presence Of The Lord" and Winwood's "Can't Find My Way Home", can both be heard as worthy attempts to deal with the plot and morality of "The Weight". Ditto "Carry That Weight" and "In The End" by the Beatles, and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and possibly "No Expectations" by the Stones. I wonder to what degree these people exchanged notes, pre-internet?


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Soldier's Christmas Poem

This morning as I had my coffee I put on head phones and searched on youtube for my favourite Christmas song "Silver Bells" found my real favorite, Michael Buble and a group of black fellows. It's wonderful.

I came across this Soldiers poem. When thinking of folks who are alone please listen to this poem. Last night Susan and I curled up in front of our tv after a nice dinner of alfredo shrimp I made and watched this new production of "The Christmas Chronicles" with Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn. It's a wonderful movie and we were wishing we had some of the kids to share it with. However we are safe and warm with plenty to eat so we gave thanks.

Kurt Russell and Goldie Hawn are a good example of folks who stick together. Merry Christmas to all of you with hopes we have happier and more positive things to discuss in the new year.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Jon

You're very welcome Jon. Rick's brother Terry sent me that link awhile back.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

John D, love that live Christmas Must Be Tonight from Rick! Thanks. :)


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Posted by:

Carl (Bonk)

Subject: Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to everyone on the Guestbook.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: OK Skipper

Hey Norm, no problem. We all forget to put on our reading glasses from time to time. And then there's the eggnog.....

If anyone's afraid of hard work, it's me! That's why I don't work on (or under) boats anymore. Yankee Clipper would be a pretty good handle though, so thanks for that!


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Oops

Y'know Todd I just re read that post and realized it was me who made the mistake (cringing in a corner).........:-)


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: TODD!!!

How our little mind bends cause us to make a little slip here and there. Todd read your post again. You said "I know how Norm is afraid of hard work". Of course I know what you meant so I'm not going to start.

Todd!! you no good low down yankee clipper dot dot de dot dot:-)


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: "Another worthwhile Canadian initiative"*

Thanks Lisa. I second that emotion!

* Voted the most boring headline of all time.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Zen and the Art of Boat Maintenance

Haso, the only wood butchering that I do is when I cut firewood! I can really make of mess of it, and never seem to get the logs the same length. So I can't lay claim to be any kind of carpentry tradesman. I make my living as a commercial photographer, mainly shooting products for marketing and advertising usage, although over the years I've done a variety of photography, everything from food, television personalities, architecture and things like that.

In my younger days, I worked at a marina / boatyard doing boat maintenance, cleaning, waxing, painting, finishing brightwork etc, so you may be remembering that. I recall when Norm bought his wooden boat, and being happy for him, as well as nervous, knowing how much work is involved in taking care of a wooden boat. They do look beautiful though, and it doesn't seem like Norm is afraid of hard work, so who am I to tell him how to spend his retirement! But good golly, it was hard enough work to do at the tender age of 16 years old. I can't imagine doing it now!

I do have a lot of respect for skilled carpenters and furniture makers, anyone who works with their hands really, and is good at it.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays to everyone. Gotta go get ready for Santa.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Years ago, CBC radio personality Peter Gzowski ran a contest - complete the sentence "As Canadian as ..." along the line of "As American as apple pie". The winner was "As Canadian as possible, under the circumstances" :-D

I'd like to wish all the dear people on the GB and Jan the very merriest Christmas possible under the circumstances. Love and best wishes to you all!


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Shape I'm In has been fiddled with quite a bit. Robbie's guitar is louder, but to me, also further left on the left speaker on the stereo mix - sort of pushed to the edge of the stage!


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Just in time for Christmas

Rick Danko Band. Uptempo Christmas Must Be Tonight.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Interesting comments about Clearmountain and recording engineers. I have very modest listening equipment and am far from an audiophile. However, I do spend some time on Steve Hoffman's music forums and know that he is considered one of the best in the business. He did the 'Stage Fright' DCC gold disc, which I have, but haven't listened to in quite some time.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Thanks Nux. Clearmountain's finest hour was Springsteen and The Stones, I guess, and a very fine hour Born in The USA was but it's bombastic in a way the Band never were. Looking on Wiki, an awful lot of people used him just once. You remember Keith Richard's comment when asked about the vast number of women Bill Wyman had had sex with. 'Yeah, but not one of them a second time.' I enjoy the Band box sets, but the Sgt Pepper, Abbey Road and White Album boxes reveal new things and also have subtlety, which The Band needs - especially on the Brown Album. "Live at the Academy" indeed showed the way to go. I agree.


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Posted by:

Rod

Nux, I've only listened to The shape I'm in once but enjoyed listening to new things in the mix. I sort of get what your saying. I enjoyed MFBP reissue as it made the album sound more consistent across the various tracks. I didn't like the Brown ALBUM reissue at all as it lost that bottom thud and the drums sounded aweful. Same can be said for the symbols on The shape I'm in but something has to give. Agree about the bass on cahoots. It does sound clearer and sharper.


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Posted by:

NUX

Location: Durban,South Africa

Subject: STAGE FRIGHT

Hi there all you wonderful "Band" people

I have been suffering from chronic depression stemming from my denial of having been retrenched, hence my slightly grumpy aura...let's not dwell on that though...

I have always thought that the production on'Cahoots',though different from their first three albums,was not bad at all.What I like about the production on Cahoots are the clear vocals and Rick Danko's bass. The secret to the first three albums sonically is that woody kick drum sitting so nicely with the round bass sound.I to this day still try and emulate that rhythm section sound.On the original Stagefright release the kick drum had even more "woodiness" to it...almost cheap sounding,but it worked with the bass guitar.This brings me to the Bob Clearmountain remix of "The Shape I'm In" In my opinion it is quite frankly, shockingly bad.

What I hear with my average engineering ears is absolutely no definition in the bottom or high end even though frequencies have obviously been boosted.I think the kick-drum has been notched up and over compressed dramatically by what I think might be a multiband compressor or plugin of some kind.While that is "whoofing" away,Rick Danko's bass gets swamped by all this muddy bottom end and disappears for that matter.The punch is gone...in a big way.Also noticed a kind of "slap back'-delay spread over the entire mix(not in time to the groove) It could be that the delay was there already and has just been boosted,but I doubt it.Awful.

I'm sure Sebastian Robertson would have done a stellar job by keeping it simple.I can confidently say that if they were to send me the separates(stems),I would do a far superior job and trust me,there are far better engineers than me out there.

Shoe...glad I got rid of that rant.Take care guys,I like all of ye!!!


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: Todd, Norm & Peter on live

Todd and Norm: some very interesting threads you both weave, in reply. I don't think I could agree more w/ your sense of what we're leaving for the future generations, Todd. Must come from being "wood butchers", if memory serves that was your stock-in-trade. Residential, commercial, shop, furniture, or boat-type carpentry?

Jeez Norm, wish I could have asked some of those questions/gotten some of that info you managed from the ancestors. Oh well. Don't know if either of my grandpa/dad's had time in the 1st war. My mom was born in 1914, oldest of 3 and my dad in 1915, only one 1/2 sibling 20 years younger. And nevermind the generation before them... everyone in our parents' generation have "gone on". I'm still barely getting to figure out what part of Scotland my dad's people came from.

Peter: your comments on King Crimson vis-a-vis the Band brings to mind what EC said after he 1st got to Woodstock. The boys weren't into jamming. Maybe he thought he could just sit in, ala Duane Allman later in the Layla days. They clearly were about "getting the songs right" as Garth said. No doubt they had the chops to improvise if they wished; anybody else capable of backing up that many people at TLW? Probably not. I've always wondered if Levon had the say-so, would they have played a lot more live than they did. Times I've thought SF pretty defined the basic personalities of all 4 Canadians, but less so Levon. Kind of like, maybe he got a double dose of Ronnie that didn't totally rub off on the rest.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Pat B

Pat your statistic regarding Stage Fright really surprised me. Here's your quote "Stage Fright was their best selling album of the first 3." Seriously; after all these years and not seeing any stats, I've always thought it was the brown album. Thanks for that.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: 2020 remix of The Shape I’m In

Peter, the remix I listened to was not, in my opinion, simply turning up the dials. Joe


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Posted by:

Rod

So no Clearmountain for Cahoots?


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Posted by:

Peter V

The good news - The Let It Be stuff must be just about done and dusted. Giles Martin will be available soon. Never fond of Clearmountain - I can whack up treble and bass on the amplifier without calling it a remix.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Back in the day I saw the sales figures for the remasters. Only their second album had a million in sales (platinum) and that wasn't until the remasters. MFBP did not go gold (Half a million) until the remasters. Stage Fright went gold a month after its release, but remasters sales were not strong enough to boost it to platinum. Cahoots, MM, NLSC, and Islands have not sold enough to rank.

Stage Fright was their best selling album of the first 3. It reached #5 on Billboard. Cahoots charted much lower and fell off the charts quickly. You simply cannot compare SF and Cahoots in commercial terms.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs

Subject: The Shape I'm In

Just listened to the 2020 remix with headphones with my Iphone. Wow, really looking forward to this remix. I was originally only thinking about the 2cd set, but now I am considering the deluxe edition. The high rez stereo remix on blue ray must be terrific. I still think the price is still a bit high, but what the heck...


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Posted by:

Rod

I never bought the Island's reissue as I didn't think it would be worth it in terms of the difference in quality. I have been trying to find locally more recently just to get the liner notes. If they're prepared to release some jams from a hotel room for Stage Fright there must be plenty off doodlings from NLSC and Islands worth releasing. Sort of like "The Mad Waltz". Terry Danko did say that there was a fire at Shangri La in the early 80s that destroyed some of his stuff. Hopefully The Band had removed their tapes (and didn't store them at Garth's ranch).

Cahoots would be interesting as a re-master/re-mix may improve it alot. Even Robbie complained that it had too much high end.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Pat, I vaguely recall a comment in an interview about the low number of sales of one of the remasters. However, I don't recall the comment being that there was a significant drop from Stage Fright to Cahoots. I seem to remember that it was more along the lines that one or more of the later albums, Either Moondog Matinee or Islands sold a just a few hundred copies.

The music industry is working in an entirely different model now with regards to catalog items. The releases are now done in multiple formats, with multiple price points, $100+ box sets and $25-$30 vinyl and lower prices for cd and downloads. So, these new versions have the capacity to bring in a lot more coin to Capital than the previous $10-$15 cd

I certainly am not a fan of Cahoots, I think it's a mess and a tremendous drop in quality from Stage Fright, however, there is a fervent contingent of Band fans who seem to love the album and feel that it's the equal to the first 3. So, I really think that a Cahoots box would sell probably just as well as a Stage Fright box.


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Posted by:

Rod

I think we discussed the remasters a long long time ago and someone made the point that the later albums benefited less due to their better production. I still like to see them done again though


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Posted by:

Pat B

Giles Martin is probably a bit busy with the Peter Jackson project.


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Posted by:

Bill M

My priority is still a full Rundgren and a full Johns. After that I don't really care, as long as they don't use a '90s-era idiot who thinks that all guitars should sound like saws - buzz or band. Come to think of it, I do care - call in Peter Moore.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Could we have a Giles Martin remix rather than a Clearmountain mix? Applies to all of them !


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Pat, very cool!


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ben, if you do a little digging you'll find sales of the remasters fell sharply after Stage Fright. Now I don't discount the Paul Allen "guardian angel" effect in TLW releases and how that may impact present day Band product. More likely a Clearmountain remix of the multitrack of Cahoots would offer a new product with some market value.

btw I was at that Chicago show that is enshrined on YT where they did WDWGFH.


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Posted by:

Alex

Subject: Stage Fright

I was looking at the review of Stage Fright on this site from Creem magazine, July 1972. I liked The Clive James Show and his Postcards From TV series back in the day and found the guy fair minded in general. I don't understand why he never mentions Band classics like Stage Fright or Sleeping in the not very complimentary review.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

I mean, you wouldn't build a box set around it, but there was a live 1971 version of Where Do We Go From Here on Youtube that I thought had surprising punch to it. I'd be "curious" at least what improved sound could do for the studio album.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Cahoots

I seem to be in the minority here (which is fine by me). But, I don't see any reason to assume that there won't be a Cahoots box set. The Band have a small catalogue, just 7 studio albums, and all of them have been included in the previous cd releases. The original cd versions were done in the 80's with all of the albums included. The expanded remasters were done about 15 years later with all of the albums included.

There have been separate audiophile versions along the way, the DCC Stage fright, the MFSl Big Pink and and another round of hybrid SACD discs for several of the albums. I have several of these, including the SACD of Cahoots. Yes, this exists and it doesn't really improve the album to my ears.

So, I have no reason to think that a box set of Cahoots won't be coming down the pike, followed by MM and NL-SC.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The thing is The Band didn’t have a lot of outtakes and used them up mostly on the 2001 remasters. Also, they don’t have the “live versions” appeal of say King Crimson. Their latest box set has 26 discs (The Complete 1969 Recordings) including every known live recording … covering 13 CDs. Their mega sets sell out very rapidly on their own site. That’s because every show was different in improvisation.

At record fairs you see dozens and dozens of Led Zeppelin bootlegs, and presumably they must differ. When I started getting Band cassettes in the 1990s, any two shows had much the same set lists, and much the same arrangements and solos (apart from Genetic Method). There never seemed much point in multiple versions from different shows.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I would think a Cahoots box set would be the opposite of a money grab. If TLW box set needed a guardian angel to get it made, I can't imagine Cahoots stirring much interest.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The truce.

Hi Haso. It is on youtube. I have watched that many times before. It is hard. The difficult part for me was when my Mum told me the story of my grandfather (her Dad) and his coming to Canada.

Him and his brother Donald were raise in the boarding school "Dollar Academy" in Scotland. I have discussed this with Dunc as he knows the place very well. (Actually just a couple of days ago I found on the Australian war memorial site the obituary of my grand dad's brother my great uncle Sergeant Donald Culbard from Scotland). Emigrated to Australia from Scotland. Enlisted April 6/1915. Killed in action in the Somme, France August 28/1917).

These two boys ran away from the school Donald going to Australia and my Grandfather Francis to Canada. They somehow were able to communicate and find each other during this war. They had arranged to meet somewhere in France. Unfortunately Donald was killed 3 days before they were to meet.

I suppose the close feeling of our mother for her family drew us in to these events and I have I suppose paid a lot of attention to what these young men went through along with many people I have met who have lost family in the same way. It is really hard to come to grips with what these people endured and went through and how many of them died. So to watch the complaints of people now and what they complain about is..........what is the word for it? Futile?


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Better than 6 feet under

Haso, perspective is everything eh? Along those same lines, I've always liked the adage that "Any day above ground is a good day."

Even though we are going through some tough times now, I feel that the generation that is coming of age now will have an appreciation of many things that we've been able to take for granted for many years, including freedom to travel & congregate, and the assumption of good health for the most part. It's definitely an adjustment, and an eye opener to many of us who have maybe gotten a little soft over the past 30 or 40 years.

I think that I finally understand a little better, my late grandmother who was born before 1918 and was always nervous around cold and flu season.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: 1914

I'll take any arrangement of Stage Fright, so long as we get additional stuff (RAH, photos, commentary, etc.). Agree otherwise... think I'd take a good bet on there never being a 50th of Cahoots/might be the ultimate moneygrub, if they did. Almost like the Allman Bros putting out a bunch of retread stuff after "Win, Lose or Draw", which itself was a bit of a stretch. No offense, but would anyone need to hear more of the Toler bros playing guitar & drums & Dicky at his bossiest self?

Anyway, Norm we just caught a piece of a 2005 movie that dramatized that Christmas truce for about 12 or 13 minutes of screen time. I'll go in my youtube history and see if I can find it. Nope, sorry can't come up w/ it. Has a bunch of Scotsmen playing bagpipes that night in the trenches.

It is a different holiday this year, but, yeah, enjoy it. Better than "6' under", as folks hereabout say. If you can find it (seen it live and have a cd), there's a really cool show put on by an all male, acapella chorus called "Cantus" where they do a bunch of songs from that period, around the Christmas truce and some spoken word parts of letters written from the front (both sides of the conflict). I don't know if it's on youtube, but is incredibly effecting.


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Posted by:

Bill M

If it's just a case of sides 1 and 2 swapping places, I'd rather things were left as they are. Why would you choose to steal the thunder of "Stage Fright" and "The Rumour" by following up with ditties? If change we must, I'd move "Sleeping and "Whistle Stop" to side 2 and "Walcott" and "Daniel" to side 1. Otherwise, the songs could be organised chronologically, which would put "Whistle Stop" last.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Good point, Norm. My dad had to leave my mum and sister, then a newborn, for five years in World War II. I was born in 1947 and nearly everyone I knew had a sibling 5 or 6 years older. That’s how it was.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: Stage Fright

Just as many of you, I have been listening to this record since 1970. The song sequence has always worked for me. I just really liked starting the record with Strawberry Wine and then moving into a wholly different vibe with Sleeping. Sort of gave you the sense that these guys were clearly not one trick ponies.

If Robbie's original intent was to highlight the effectiveness of these two songs and the scope of The Band's music, I think he was very successful.

The second side, for me, is terrific, but for my $7.99 (back in the day), it should remain the second side...


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Pat, makes sense. I remember a scene from the original Let It Be film (I think? I'm not sure where else I would have seen it) where Billy Preston enters the studio, and suddenly the Beatles seem delighted and are joking and clowning around like it's 1964. A fascinating moment in band dynamics.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: The Fifth Beatle

Agreed Pat, they tended to be on their best behavior when they had guests, and I think that Billy Preston was a great addition at that time. And the environment of the Apple studio must have been more comfortable and homey as compared to a large sterile sound-stage environment.


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Posted by:

Pat B

I think you will notice that most of the carefree Beatles scenes have Billy Preston about at their makeshift Apple studio. He acted as a balm after their darker, angrier Twickenham stuff.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: The Beatles - Get Back Documentary

At the link above is a sneak peek of the documentary that Peter Jackson is putting together from over 56 hours of footage, much or most of it never seen.

It's a pretty exciting project that any Beatles fan will be looking forward to. In contrast to the original 'Let It Be Movie' (that was kind of a downer in many ways), this film looks to capture a more upbeat side of things. Even the short clip at the link above, seems to capture a lot of joy and the close relationship between these guys. The restoration of the footage looks very good as well.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: A bird in the hand

Well I'm not sure if we'll ever get a Cahoots box, so I'll take the Royal Albert Hall show on the 'Stagefright' Box, as we'll get it sooner rather than later!

I'd also be interested in a complete version of each of the Glyn Johns mixes and the Todd Rundgren versions, as I can never keep it straight which versions were used on the various releases that I have.

Will be interesting to hear the different running order of the album proper, although I'm not sure if it will ever sound right for any of us who have developed a muscle memory of the original album sequence after all these years.

Kind of like when the Beatles albums came out on CD in 1987 using the UK releases original song running order. Many of us Americans who grew up with the Capitol albums sequencing, had to get used to hearing different songs in different places. Your brain just gets conditioned to whatever it grew up with.

Bill M, I've never actually heard the Brinsley Schwartz original version of '(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding', although I have heard Nick Lowe do it as a solo artist in more recent years, as well as Elvis Costello. I'll have to seek that out.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Stage Fright 50th Anniversary Deluxe

Amazon.ca will sell for $189.00.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Christmas

As the day draws near I am amazed at the amount of people who complain about problems with not being able to travel etc.

I stay at home with my wife and we give thanks that this terrible pandemic has not come to us and we are still healthy. Thinking of the loss of life many folks have to endure this Christmas.

One of my friends on Facebook posted a picture of Christmas Day in the trenches in Europe 1914. Most folks who have managed to stay healthy along with all family members have little to complain about.

Lets be thankful for what we have this Christmas. Best wishes to all remembering those folks in the trenches who kept our world free.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Band Aid - Do they know it's christmas 1984


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Band Aid 30 - Do They Know It's Christmas? (2014)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

RICK DANKO’S STAGE FRIGHT: LIVE COLLECTION
Posted on 11th May 2016


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Cahoots 50th anniversary Box set!!!!!!

Peter and Pat, If Robbie and other suits from Capitol spend any time on social media, they would find that 'Cahoots' has quite a fervent following and plenty of folks who would jump at at the chance to buy a box set devoted to it. I don't know if the boxes devoted to the first three album albums would be big enough to satisfy them. I'm thinking that a 10 to 15 disc set would be in order. A set featuring every scrap of material related to 'Cahoots', rehearsals, alternate takes, a couple of discs of Levon snoring or Rick and Richard playing cards or shooting pool. The highlight would surely be the unedited '4% Pantomine' session with Richard and Van drinking and kibbitzing. That deserves a minimum of 3 discs or even better a separate, stand alone release.

In all seriousness, I was basing my comments on the assumption that all of the studio albums would receive a deluxe anniversary expanded release. I'm not a fan of 'Cahoots', so if they skip this one, I'm okay with it. I would like to see box sets for 'Moondog Matinee' and 'NL-SC'. The second Roosevelt Stadium concert from 8/1/73 could be included with MM and either the Carter Baron or Palladium show could be included with NL-SC.

Of course, I would also love to see something done with the 90's albums. And expanded release of 'Jericho' including the Jules Shear material that was booted on 'Tombstone' and a live recording from 93 or 94 and 'High on the Hog' with a live recording from '96 would be most welcome.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ben, RAH is directly linked to Stage Fright with 5 songs from the album in the set list. It's about the 20th show they played since Stage Fright had been released nine months before. It was also recorded on a multitrack unlike the other shows you mentioned, none of which were professionally recorded. It's probably the only time since Woodstock that they did a pro live recording. Also I'd wager the odds of a Cahoots boxed set are pretty long. A Clearmountain re-mix is a long shot possibility, especially since no one liked the way the album sounded, but I can't imagine there's much demand for the typical extras. Planet Waves/Before The Flood will probably be the next major release a few years from now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Much as I would immediately order a copy, I fear a "Cahoots Anniversary" big box set is considerably less commercially appealing than the first three albums. Given that they already did Academy of Music- Live 1971, it would be hard to see what would go on there as the essential extra CD. They were about to take a long break.

Best hope would be Dylan doing another box based around Planet Waves … if there is anything much.


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Pat, The Band only played a handful of shows in support of 'Cahoots' and that period has already been thoroughly documented on 'Rock of Ages' and 'Live at The Academy of Music' sets.

There are quality shows from 1970 featuring material from 'Stage Fright', so you put a 1970 show, either Syria Mosque or one of the shows from Festival Express or the Hollywood Bowl show (if there's a better source than the bootleg).

This would have left the RAH show from 1971 for the 'Cahoots' 50th anniversary set. This seems logical to me, especially when you consider that a similar approach was used on the Brown album 50th anniversary set. The Band's Woodstock performance was included on that set although it didn't include any material from that album.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Ben, why would you put a Band springtime 1971 concert on Cahoots? They hadn't recorded a single song for Cahoots at that point.


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Posted by:

Rod

Not so sure about the running order. Personally I mostly skip over Daniel and The Sacred Harp and The Rumor. The remix of The Shape I'm In sounds good though


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Posted by:

Peter V

I pondered the new running order for Stage Fright - Robbie is right, it's better. It relegates the three weaker tracks to Side 2 and ends with Sleeping, a brilliant ender.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

And the other side of Christmas.

Shaggy Is Spreading Caribbean Christmas Cheer in Jamaica and Beyond

Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas...reggae style. I was there in 1987 for the first time. I did not miss the snow. I was mesmerized at how clear the water was in Montego Bay, Jamaica. I was mesmerized at the 20 black rum holiday cakes that were all around my friend's family's home. She even gave me one to take home. I was mesmerized by the entire island as they took me also to Kingston, Savannah La Mar, Ocho Rios and Negril Beach as I was there for two weeks. Other years I was in NYC and in South Africa at this time as I had two weeks of holidays. The last time I saw my mother was at Christmas time so like many people here it's not an easy time...and....the pandemic and all......You just do the best you can and do whatever you need to do to uplift your spirit as high, high, high as it can go and.....turn up the light!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Watkins Glen

My recent find of the Watkins Glen 1973 bootleg LP prompted an article on AROUND AND AROUND. It includes Pat B's definitive piece of music archaeology from this site, with additional stuff around it.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

There are two sides of Christmas. One side is Joni Mitchell and the Melancholy of Christmas.

Dec 17, 2020


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JON L..."For the 50th Anniversary collection, the sequence has been changed to present Stage Fright with the originally planned song order. “On the album, we used a different sequence to feature and encourage Richard and Levon’s songwriting participation,” Robertson reveals. “Over time, I pined for our first song order, because it pulls you right into the Stage Fright scenario.”


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Paul McCartney on creating his new solo album "McCartney III"

CBS Sunday Morning
December 20/20


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Posted by:

Ben

Location: New Jersey

Subject: Stage Fright

The Stage fright set looks very promising. I will definitely be going for the 2 cd version. I do have one minor quibble, and that is the selection of the 1971 RAH concert for disc 2. I'm certainly looking forward to listening to a professional quality recording of this show, the 'Royal Albert Rags' boot is pretty rough. But, I would have preferred if they put a 1970 concert on this release and saved the RAH concert for the 'Cahoots' 50th anniversary set. To my mind, that would have been the logical choice, with the assumption that each succeeding album would receive an expanded 50th anniversary set. But, regardless of that, this looks like a fine set.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Ma Rainey's Black Bottom

Christmas and the Oscar season means new films are coming thick and fast, and this year that’s on Netflix. MA RAINEY’S BLACK BOTTOM (linked) is a predicted Best actor / Best actress for Chadwick Boseman and Viola Davis. They may be right. It’s based on August Wilson’s stage play and is a snapshot, a day in the life, not a bio-pic. A must-see, though it has some issues.

Ma Rainey leads to at least three Band links … all mentioned.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveand Tx

Subject: supersets

Hey I called it on the Stage fright........Happy Christmas Everyone....!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: The Prom

Review added of Netflix musical THE PROM (linked) … with a stellar cast, Meryl Streep, James Corden, Nicole Kidman, Andrew Rannells. A major 2020 version of the 2018 Broadway Musical. No plot spoilers or joke giveaways at all, as it’s on now.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Stray Cats....40th Anniversary

This video is a in the studio interview of the 3 plus the production guys. These 3 guys had the biggest greatest sound of just about any trio you can name.

Dave Edmunds who I recently posted of produced and played with these guys. Carl Perkins and any number of the Rock-a- Billy community played with, respected and enjoyed these guys. This is worth a look.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Re "Stage Fright", what I would like to see is a package that includes the whole set of Rundgren mixes followed by the whole set of Johns mixes (or vice versa).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Stage Fright

Just ordered it froim Back to Black. Amazon.uk doesn't have it yet. Greatly looking forward to it!


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Thanks BEG. “For the first time, the album is being presented in the originally planned song order." At a glance, looks like the darker, heavier Side 2 stuff gets moved up front. Anyone know what the story is for why it originally got changed?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

For JON L and....February 12 release of The Band's 50th Anniversary Deluxe Stage Fright album reissue.

Thank you TODD....Birthdays are my favourite celebration.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Stage Fright Deluxe Set

Try 'the band stage fright deluxe' on amazon to see track listing and hear a sample of The Shape I'm In '2020 Remix'. Sounds fantastic on first listen!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Best of 2020

My annual review of reviews BEST OF 2020 is linked. I usually do three, but I’ll do two this year. Recorded music to follow, as I’m waiting for more to arrive. This is different. Very different. Theatre? Up to the end of February. Film? All except one was seen at home. Only two concerts … and lots of 60s Retrospective reviews. Take a look … some novel categories.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Subject: Stage Fright Deluxe Set

A post on Robbie's Facebook feed says the release date is set for February 12th.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Peace, Love And Understanding

Todd: Great song that. Especially the Brinsley Schwartz original, a copy of which I picked up on spec in the first junk store I'd ever encountered, in the summer of '73 after a summer school calculus class. Picked up three great 45s there that day: PL&U, "Psycho Daisies" by the Yardbirds, and - the big one for me - the only record done by the original lineup of the Consuls. Recorded in NYC in Feb '59, shortly before Robbie Robertson joined the group. Presumably Robbie played the two songs onstage many time - "I'm Happy" and "Runaway", at least one of which can be found on YouTube.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding

BEG, Happy Belated Birthday! Hope that you enjoyed your day. In your playlist I see that you included 'Cruel to Be Kind'. Was a big radio hit when I was a kid, and I enjoyed it then, but really grew to appreciate it over time. Brother Nick has got a gift, that's for sure.

Good to see you checking in Kevin J.

Haso, and any other Larkin Poe fans. I just found this video of Elvis Costello doing the Nick Lowe song '(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding'.
Joining him (remotely) are a bunch of others, including Larkin Poe. Rebecca is coincidentally playing the silver Tele from the unboxing video that I linked to last week. I see a couple of other familiar faces including Larry Campbell and also the trombone player, who looks a lot like Clark Gayton from Levon's Midnight Ramble Band. The semi-surprising thing is that Larry Campbell appears to be playing mostly rhythm guitar, and both Rebecca and Meghan get to peel off some tasty solos. Pretty wild.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Track

Nice piece of work, Peter. I had no idea that, oh, Art Brown, Golden Earring and Parliament were on that label. What great taste they had in what they released. I used to have "Desdemona", but I think it was on a comp that and I culled ages ago. I do still have "Something In The Air" on Track, and the Parliaments' "Testify" - but on the US label.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Track

Still ploughing on with "Around and Around." Just added TRACK to the Manager labels section - a comprehensive account of The Who and Hendrix's label.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Guest Book

I'm looking at it right now.


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Posted by:

JCF

Location: Walon, NY

Subject: chatroom

Sorry. I meant does anyone know when the chatroom will be restored?


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Posted by:

JCF

Location: Walton, NY

Subject: guestbook

Does anyone know when the guestbook will be restored?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Cooking Listening to Mixed CD
Web: My link

Subject: Most Of The Time

The other day I was listening to the Number 1's of The Beatles. I asked JM if he liked them and The Rolling Stones. "They're ok.........
for background music." LOL

Mixed CD....

Sunshine Reggae...Laid Back via of Much Music...Kidzzz performed this song! This song instantly brings light into my life.
Secret (Club Mix)...Madonna via of Much Music...good dance groove here.
Everything Is Broken...Bob Dylan...I have all his CDs until....
Light My Fire...Jose Feliciano via of many Variety Shows.
Mama Told Me Not To Come...Three Dog Night....I was aware of drugs at this time only.
Tweeter and The Monkey Man...Travelling Wilburys via of Much More Music.
Operator via of the radio...Jim Croce
Out Of The Blue...Joe Cocker via of Robbie Robertson.
Cracking Up...Nick Lowe...I saw him with Rockpile at the Heat Wave Concert in 1980 and at Massey Hall with Mink De Ville and Elvis Costello. Yes, I am very blessed when it comes to being at many concerts but not in other areas of life.
Cruel To Be Kind...Nick Lowe
Inside Out...Bryan Adams via of Much More Music
Stop That Rain (live)...The Wailers...I have all of Marley's CDS.
Love That Kills...The Waterboys...I still cannot remember if I found them or if my brother discovered them first. No six course gourmet dinner at his home for my birthday this year due to social distancing.
Miss You (Concert for NYC)...The Rolling Stones via of TV Special for 9/11.

Most of the time
It's well understood
Most of the time
I wouldn't change it if I could
I can't make it all match up
I can hold my own
I can deal with the situation
Right down to the bone
I can survive,
And I can endure
And I don't even think
About her
Most of the time


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The East Rock

Well hello Joe. I just looked in here after quite sometime. There you are old son. Glad things are well on your rock. Stay healthy and may I wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and hopes for a happier New Year.

Tell some of 'em over there to play Sonny's Dream for me.


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Posted by:

joe j

Subject: Evangenitals

Can we say a somewhat reverent take on a decidedly irreverent song? Loved it.

Be safe all. Here on the island we're kind of removed from all the COVID fears. I'd love to welcome you all down here but you're not allowed to come. There will be better days.

Listening to a little Charley Pride. "Rain dripping from the brim of my hat...". I've waltzed across the dance floor to so many of his songs. "The only gold I have for you is in this wedding band...".


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

The Band’s Robbie Robertson ‘proud’ to highlight Boulder International Film Festival.

Photos by Randall Malone.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Healthy Happy Hanukkah to all who celebrate.

Never too late to wish.....

"May this season of celebration bring you light and joy out of darkness."


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Posted by:

Bill M

Thanks Lisa. I checked out the kitsilano.ca article. I can say truthfully that I also saw Hans Staymer at Rossini's, but only because he was sitting at the bar the evening we saw Linton Garner. I've always liked his music, and in other circumstances would have wandered over to talk about it, but that would hardly have been fair to Linton. Coincidentally, I was thinking of posting about Hans last week, because I was going to post a link to one of his bandmates from the '60s in Edmonton, the great rock and flamenco guitarist Gabriel Delorme. He too held down a regular spot in a fancy Vancouver restaurant for a few years before his passing earlier this millenium. He was a veteran of the Elegant Parlour, which you and I posted about a few weeks ago, and his resulting friendship with co-ownwer Tommy Chong served him well, as he got a co-write credit and played the wrangy guitar solo on Cheech and Chong's biggest single, "Earache My Eye".


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Posted by:

Lisa

Google it - "it" being Rossini's, not their FB page. Context, context ...


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Posted by:

Lisa

Sorry Bill, I must have missed your question. I'm assuming you're talking about Rossini's Jazz Club and Restaurant on Yew Street? Apparently they closed in 2010 after eighteen years in the business, so even though we lived at 5th and Yew for years they opened after we had left. In other words, no, I never did go there. They do have an active Facebook page though, and if you Google it there is an article from Kitsilano.ca with a farewell letter from the owners mentioning the Garners, among others.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Lisa: Did you see my question to you about Rossini's. In any case, good of you (and now BEG) to welcome Theo. I will too - welcome Theo!

Peter V: That IS a good line in the 'Sunday Times'. I'm sure I'll apply to someone else somewhere along the line.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Guts For Love

JON L...I only saw you two times in NYC so not sure if you're the romantic type like Garland Jeffreys....but here's one from a recording hard to find. Belated wishes...absolutely......Thank you.

THEO...My high school math teacher was from Austria. Would you believe that was the only subject I had to write exams for? Sheesh! I have no debt....and yet I had to.....Welcome to the Band Bar. You won't see me just for a drink. I'm only in bars and this one because of the music, the music, the music....and all the beautiful souls who honour us with their presence.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Happy (belated) birthday, BEG! I'm still enjoying Garland Jeffreys so much; don't know what took me so long. Thanks again. :)


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

JED...Thanks kindly for your thoughts and wishes.

Song via GB Tiny Montgomery?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

KEVIN J......Thank you very much for your thoughts and wishes.
:-D


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

PETER...You know that I'm not Italian but still........Thank you for the wishes.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: You Sexy Thing

You Sexy Thing by The Groove shakers actually annoys me. The backing track is a total rip off of the original by Hot Chocolate, and the vocalist isn't as good as Errol Brown, who wrote it. We saw them do it live … brilliant band. Why didn't the film makers just pay to use the original? Ranks with Smiht's version of The weight!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Amusing line in today's Sunday Times:

With Van Morrison, there are two sorts of people. Those that like him. And those who have met him.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: BEG

BEG-May you have the happiest of birthdays. And a full recovery. You kindness and friendliness shine on this place!


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Posted by:

Kevin J

“Tilt your head back, Angelina”......I hope you have had the kind of cheerful and perfect day you deserve as belated as these wishes are......In this world of mad kings, social non-distancers and maskless lunatics, I am comforted to know that there are souls as special and musical as you around and in my town.......and a special thank you for remembering John Lennon and Rick Danko in the way you did......the love I have for both is immeasurable.

Last 3:

1. To Love Somebody - Bobby Bazini

2. You Sexy Thing - The Groove Shakers ( even diehard rockers will admit to loving this after 6 drinks )

3. Here Comes a Regular -The Replacements ( listen to this and never again question who the best band of the 80’s was )


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Posted by:

Lisa

I love the way this site looks. It's like a friend I check in on every day. I know I don't post a lot, but I'm sorry I didn't welcome Theo, who obviously has excellent taste in music!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno

jh: Thank you for this museum. Living proof that nostalgia for the old days can be totally justified. This site IS what the internet WAS in 1995 - constant, clean, uncluttered, and focused on content rather than techno-pizzaz. No need to trade your personal info in return for access. Plus you find real people. Thank you, thank you thank you!

Haso: My last three includes the first Buena Vista Social Club CD.

After that was the third and last CD by Bent Roots, a local band with two killer keyboardists from the '60s - Ed Roth, who'd done tons of work with Neil Merryweather, Rick James and Daniel Lanois, and Michael Fonfara who was in the original Electric Flag before signing on with Rhinoceros. And the band's leader, Nick Balkou, was on an LP in '72 with one of the Rick James and Ed Roth groups, Great White Cane.

And now we're onto a calming lounge jazz piano CD by Errol Garner's older brother, Linton. I bought it from him 15 years ago at his home base, a nice restaurant in Vancouver called Rossini's. A lovely person, who sat with us between sets and shared stories of his days in Montreal (1960-1980 ish) and then moving west. Lisa, did you go to Rossini's? Is it still around?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Like The Band, the classic look of this website exceeds anything more modern that is around. Thank you, Jan.


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Posted by:

jh

Thanks for stopping by, young Theo from Austria. Did you know this web site is 9 years older than yourself? We started it in 1994, and the design has been kept like it was way-back-when. Partly because the web master is lazy, and partly because we at one point decided to preserve the site as a sort of internet museum.

You refer to some navigation problems? The only tools for navigating here are the graphical meny sidebar on the left side of (most of) the pages, and an equivalent «text bar» at the bottom of every page. There is a search tool included in the menus. that is just a link to a site-limited Google search.

If anyone else also experiences navigation problems/errors here, then please let us know about it — we may even do something to correct it :-)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Happy birthday to BEG!

I've often mentioned seeing the Watkins Glen jam bootleg in Virgin Records back in 1974, and not buying it because it was too expensive. I bought Abandoned Luncheonette instead. Anyway, I went to my local record shop today and there it was! Same sleeve, white label. Original 1973 bootleg. It is playing now. No, it's not fantastic, but it's here! They also had a new 2LP vinyl of The Band, Chicago 1983. I didn't buy it. I might go back.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Good morning haso. Thanks very much for the birthday wishes. And thanks for asking....so far no more symptoms. I know at the time I was not sleeping well so maybe my immune system was really down. Also, the store where I may have contracted the virus that alerted me to possible infection....The one day I did not wear a mask. One of the staff was talking to me very closely. I have not seen him since........ JM did not contract virus maybe because we have two floors so we kept our distance. Unfortunately he had to self-iso for four weeks whereas I only had to for two weeks. Let's just say he wasn't a happy camper and he loves to go camping. ;-(
My favourite cover of my name is linked.


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Posted by:

haso

Location: seacoast NH

Subject: b-day for beg, PfC, last 5

Also a happy birthday from down New England to you, Angelina. And many more to come. Especially now as you've gotten past Covid. Have there been any lingering issues? I catch Mara Gay quite often on the tv, she speaks often (when asked) about how long issues hang around; she 1st got Covid in mid-April and is still not back to full strength and was evidently in great health beforehand. She's a 30ish woman of color, evidently a frequent runner of many miles, who serves on the editorial board of the New York Times. Excellent commentator, on many topics.

Promise Todd, that I'll check your Larkin Poe link before bed. Good to have another body here on their bandwagon (Norm and I, maybe Angie have been talking them up for awhile). Being selfish, I'm hoping they'll do some more RR songs on their Tip 'o' the Hat series, to go w/ their Ophelia I've already listened to/watched a couple of dozen times.

For those inclined, there's a new social justice educating/fundraiser from Playing for Change that features their rehash of The Weight, quite prominently. I quite enjoy the sly little smile on Robbie's face at the end of the PfC version; kind of think that Mark Johnson and Sebastian managed to throw him some little surprises there.

last 5

Stage Fright... also looking forward to the 50th.

The Red Hot Chilli Pipers: "Blast, live at the Old Fruit Market".

Rani Arbo & daisy mayhem: "Big Old Life"... especially track 9 (for beg), their cover of BD's Farewell Angelina.

Live at The Academy: both disc 1 and 3... particularly noticed the 3 voices on "The Rumor"/ the lyric "vigilantes want to make a move" takes me right back to the 1st Biden/agent orange debate when a.o. let stand the reference to the Proud Boys. Vigilantes indeed! Also, Garth seemed like he was just about "standing on his head" all 4 nights. Such a variety of fills on his part.

The Buena Vista Social Club: "presents Ibrahim Ferrer".

Be good, be safe; all.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Days Like These

Many thanks to the perfect stranger from Illinois....PAT B.
Many thanks also to those who sent birthday wishes by email. :-D


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Posted by:

Pat B

Happy Boitday day, BEG, from Chicagah.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Thank you for the birthday wishes NOMADIC MIKE.....and for letting me be myself.....again.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Cabbagetown Ms.

Gee, another birthday, Angie. Let us rejoice!


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Posted by:

Theo

Location: Austria

Subject: I Love your Website

Hello. I Love the Band, but I found it hard to find Reliable Information about them till i found this Website, it is also very good to see, that the Fan Club of the Band hasn't died. With me being only 17 Years old, I find it hard to find someone who knows the Band and could speak and discuss about them with me. So I was very pleased to at least find someone who is fascinated by them as much as I am. Again thank you for this brilliant Website. P.S. I can't help but to tell you that I would be very happy seiing a slight refresh of the Website, because on My Computer (Mac) the Website looks kind off Ott. I find it very hard to navigate through your Website, and I Miss a search Tab. Butt all in all, Thank you, and I hope that there will be new Posts on this Website soon. Hope to get down to the Mississippi and to the Golf of Mexico soon. Theo


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

ROBBIE ROBERTSON Wants HARRY STYLES To Play Him In A Movie

"While chatting with ET Canada's Sangita Patel in the Festival Central Lounge, rock legend Robbie Robertson reveals that he would love to have Harry Styles play him in a movie. Plus, he shares if he plans on making more music in the future."

03:05


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: New The Band Fan! First Time Hearing It Makes No Difference


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Home Cookin'

Remembering Rick Clare Danko, Dec. 29 1943 - Dec. 10 1999. Lead singer. Instrument: Bass, violin, guitar

It Makes No Difference

Cared about helping the neighbourhood

Kind hearted


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Justin Johnson - Shovel Guitar

Here's Justin Johnson playing a guitar that he made out of a shovel, proving that you don't need a fancy instrument to make good music. Can you "dig" it? This dude is pretty amazing!


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Justin Johnson - Purple Rain

Pretty nice instrumental version of 'Purple Rain' by Justin Johnson.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen

Just stumbled across this guy recently. A guitarist named Justin Johnson. He's a pretty talented dude. At the link is him doing a fingerstyle version of 'God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen'.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT
Web: My link

Subject: Guitar Nerds

Hey guitar nerds. At the link is Rebecca Lovell (from Larkin Poe) unboxing a new Telecaster from the Fender custom shop. It's 50's style with some sort of silver crackle finish. Anyway, after she opens the thing up, she plays it like a boss for a minute or so. Fast forward to about the two minute mark if you're impatient.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Cat Power

Hey Ben Pike, I didn't buy the Cat Stevens superset, but I did buy the single CD version in early October.

Listened to it twice so far, both times in full on long car trips. I think it's pretty well done, and Cat Stevens voice is still in pretty good shape, and the musicians are very capable. But it does feel a bit slower and more mellow than the original. My general reaction was that it was well done, but I found myself craving the original. Not sure if I liked the rearrangement of 'Wild World' but I haven't done a direct comparison. I think the single CD is fine, but I persoanlly wouldn't spend extra for a superset.

FYI, for anyone trying to find it in a store, it was not in the "S' section for Cat Stevens. This was in a Barnes and Noble. It was filed in the "Y" section for Yusuf Islam, which is the name he has been going by for quite a while now.


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Up On Cripple Creek

Gawd, there's some vids you shouldn't watch on a work laptop


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Subject: Mona bone Tillerman

So, anyone gong for those Cat Stevens supersets?


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Bob's Bucks

Thanks Dave H for those detailed answers. That clears a lot of things up.
And thanks to Dag B for the Rolling Stone article about 'The Weight'. Some pretty good explanations there too.


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: Wait, Bob Dylan Owned ‘The Weight’? An Explainer

Rolling Stone article


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: The Who.......Squeeze Box

The rock and roll song that has everything.........just rock it!


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Posted by:

Dave H

And to answer your other questions, Sony/Columbia retains the rights to Dylan's recordings, and any collaborators, like the Levy or Danko estates, would continue to receive songwriting royalties as before. These things aren't Dylan's to sell.


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Posted by:

Dave H

Todd: There's a difference between songwriting royalties, performance royalties, and publishing royalties. From what I understand, the deal with Universal doesn't cover performance royalties, so Dylan still makes money every time someone buys an album of his. It covers Dylan's songwriting and his publishing—nearly all of Dylan's compositions were published through his own publishing company, so he had been getting both types of royalties on them up until now. Dylan owns the publishing on "The Weight" too (supposedly given to him by The Band back in '68 as a thank-you for him keeping them on the payroll throughout '67) so he was also getting paid publishing royalties on that (and now Universal will get that money) but Robbie would still be getting songwriting royalties unless he's sold his own rights off (which I don't believe he has).


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Mank

This year, it’s a question of Netflix or Amazon Prime rather than Odeon v Cineworld. The latest review is MANK on Netflix, (SEE LINK) the “Citizen Kane” prequel or how Citizen Kane was written by Herman Makiewicz (and not by Orson Welles). Gary Oldman, Tom Burke, Charles Dance … hold on, they’re all British. See the review.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Norm, wrestling is out but I'd love to meet her.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Juli Crockett

She scares me Pat. I wouldn't want to wrestle her. She's Janis Joplin reborn.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Norm, read deeper. The woman is one badass renaissance human. However she does do sultry well.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Evangenitals???

That's bullshit Pat. You just want tuh' take a scrub with that rig in the tub.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Whatever Gets You Through The Night
Web: My link

Subject: John Winston Lennon 9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

An LA band called The Evangenitals do a super, almost reverent cover of Up On Cripple Creek. However they do add certain, uhh, aspects that are appealing on their own.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Bobby's Big Bonanza

Thanks John L, and Si. I'll stay tuned, and let you know if I discover any new info about the Stage Fright release.

The news about Dylan selling his songwriting catalog is interesting. I do have a few questions about it. This sale transfers the copyright and publishing to Universal Music. So as I understand it, Universal will collect royalties and licensing fees any time Dylan's songs are sold, streamed, broadcast on the radio or used in a movie or commercial. That all seems pretty clear. But does that also extend to physical purchases of product such as CD's or vinyl LP's? Will Universal now be the ones doing physical product releases, re-releases etc. I would assume they would get any mechanical royalties from those sales, but do they get ALL of the mechanical royalties, or will Bob (or his estate) still receive any payment if someone buys a copy of 'Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits' or 'Blonde on Blonde' on CD 5 years from now.

What about songs that Bob has co-written with other people like Jacques Levy who co-wrote many of the songs on Desire? Does the Jacques Levy estate still get paid, or does that only go to Universal now? Or even songs like 'Tears of Rage' (co-written with Richard Manuel) or 'This Wheel's on Fire' (co-written with Rick Danko)?

And finally, regarding songs like 'The Weight', which has been mentioned; I know that Dylan has had the publishing on that since the beginning, as it went through Dwarf Music originally, but does that mean that Universal will make all money from 'The Weight' now? Or will Robbie still get a cut. Surely that song can't be considered part of Bob Dylan's "songwriting" catalog, as Robbie is listed as the sole writer of that song. So in that case is it only the publishing from which Universal will receive royalties from 'The Weight'? Or does Robbie still have some control over that song; not only from an income perspective, but also regarding how and when the song can be used for licensing?


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Posted by:

Si

Subject: Stage Fright reissue

Todd/Jon - There is a thread about the Stage Fright release over at the Steve Hoffman forum. Someone over there claims a bit of insider knowledge, namely that it was due to be released this week or next week but has been put back to February. Someone else claims to have seen a trackliisting on a French music site (since removed) that had a different running order to the album (starting with W.S. Walcott Medicine Show and ending with Sleeping) so perhaps this might account for the delay? Maybe this was done in error and needed to revert to the original order or perhaps vice versa?. There are a couple of photos - one of the deluxe edition and one of a multicoloured vinyl - on the thread also. You can also see the artwork for the RAH disc on the first photo. That is all I could glean from the thread. Also I do remember reading that over the two nights "The Weight" was only played once, perhaps as an encore. I assume both nights were recorded.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

New Anti-Lockdown Songs from Eric Clapton & Van Morrison...

No More Lockdown
As I Walked Out
Born To Be Free

ROCK CELLAR MAGAZINE STAFF
DECEMBER 4, 2020

“Eric’s recording is fantastic and will clearly resonate with the many who share our frustrations. It is heart-breaking to see so many talented musicians lack any meaningful support from the government, but we want to reassure them that we are working hard every day to lobby for the return of live music, and to save our industry."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pat B...What's 20 million anyway, huh?

Stevie Nicks sells majority of her song catalog for $100 million

Anne Stych
Staff Writer
Bizwomen
Dec 7, 2020


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

10 Reasons Why Musicians Should Consider Selling Publishing & Masters

Peter Csathy
Forbes
Feb 10, 2020

I saw one article claiming Stevie Nicks received 100 million.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Dylan probably wants to sort it now rather than leave it to lawyers and disputes after he’s gone. Though the rights to Blowing In The Wind would go on earning for decades.


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Posted by:

Pat B

We've discussed Dylan owning the publishing on MFBP any number of times. It seems The Weight is the only song from there that Dylan retained. Dag has published a number of interesting docs concerning this on his FB page.

Dylan is nearing 80 years old. He has a lot of kids and a number of ex-wives. I don't know his reasons for doing this, but turning his assets into cash is a good way to avoid inheritance hassles.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Bob Dylan's sale of 600 songs for a reported $300 million seems odd, as Stevie Nicks in the same report got $80 million for hers. No disrespect to Stevie but Bob has a whole lot more. At 79 it seems a weird move in UK terms. In the UK, if he has that in cash, inheritance tax will hoover up over half of it. If he gives it to dependents, he then has to liveseven years before it's tax free. Yet if he retained copyrights in the company, and left shares in the company to his dependents, there would be no tax event. The company would continue. However, i'm sure he is extremely well-advised and has a purpose.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Dave Edmunds & Mickey Gee 1987

Here they are playing "Blue Moon of Kentucky" Elvis style. Just love Mickey's style of picking. One of his motivators was James Burton. We were playing all this music at the same time as them except of course they did much better at it.

There is a really good interview with Dave on youtube about the two times he played with Chuck Berry. Really funny.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Geoff Edmunds

I remember hearing of Geoff as well Bill but never crossed paths. He sure could play and did well with his recording here in Canada. Still Dave and what he accomplished stood out more I guess. This is Geoff he could play anything pretty well like Dave.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: The Weight

Per Rolling Stone, Bob Dylan owns the copyright for The Weight. Which now has been sold. I did not know that. joe


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Posted by:

Paul

Location: Chicago

Thanks for mentioning Dave Edmunds, I listened to I Hear You Knocking, for the first time in quite a while. Will be digging out my DE LPs tonight. I Hear You Knocking will always fit, for me, on that list of "Great songs that I was surprised were hits." I love it, but if you asked me what would be commercial in the early 70s, this wouldn't have been an obvious choice.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

Subject: Geoff Edmunds - brother of Dave

Norm: As a gigging musician based in BC between '67 and 2000, you may even have crossed paths with BC-based Geoff Edmunds, Dave's older brother. I had a couple of his albums (which were released on the Pacemaker label - see canadiancds dot com). Dave was on one.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Todd, I'd say their marketing department has a bit of stage fright. I can't find a release date anywhere.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Dave Edmunds

Bill, Dave Edmunds is one of the guys I would dearly have liked to play music with.We are the same age and I shared all the same music he liked to play. He was somewhat of a genius in the way he produced his music. His vocal on "I Hear You Knockin" he piped in on a phone line to record and got that sound like he was singing over the radio......cool.

I was just watching a video of him playing country music with Carlene Carter. They sound great together.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Pat Brennan

Well Pat, further to your comments I see on the news this morning that Dylan has sold his entire catalogue to Universal Music. What now??


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norm: My favourite Dave Edmunds, and one of my favourite albums period, is Love Sculpture's "Forms and Feelings". I also like his "Subtle as a Flying Mallet" solo LP, and was just shocked to find the E section of my record collection empty - nothing between Willie Dunn and Five Man Electrical Band.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest
Web: My link

Subject: Mickey Gee

I got to this in a round a bout way. I got to watching a series on Netflix "Hinterland" filmed in Wales with many Welsh actors. As I have heritage there I am quite taken with the landscape, harbour and industries. In researching on Wikipedia it mentions bands from Wales which brought me to a couple of my all time favorites Mickey Gee and Geraint Watkins. So remembering that Mickey played on this recording with Edmunds I had to play it. Remember the odd sound the way his voice is recorded, but what a funky recording.


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Stage Fright

John L, Did the Stage Fright info in Uncut mention a release date for the new Stage Fright Box? I don't see it for sale anywhere yet and was wondering if it would be out in time for Christmas......ummm....so I can tell Santa about it.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: EPs and genres

The latest on AROUND AND AROUND is in the EPs sections. EPs and Genres … kids, comedy, sound effects, spoken voice, education, holidays, stereo. There are some weird and wonderful EPs there, and illustration rules again.


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Posted by:

Rod

Wow...looking forward to that stage fright release. There is still stuff out there


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Posted by:

Todd

Subject: Correction

In my excitement, I mistakenly placed the Woodstock set on the MFBP Box. The Woodstock set is on the Brown album reissue, which I also have, but am in some sort of pre-holiday brain fog.

Totally agree Pat. I’ve been hoping for a release of this for a long time.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Todd, yes, the group at its height. The song list alone is staggering. The cream of the first three albums. Rocking Chair (before they got rid of acoustic performances) and We Can Talk. All in great voice and stellar performances. Although the boot is middling quality, I always thought this show is something of a holy grail. Interesting to see if they performed The Weight (not on the boot).


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Stage Fright Box

Thanks John L! I had heard that a Stage Fright Box was in the works, but didn't know that the Royal Albert Hall show from 1971 was going to be part of it. That's great news! The four tracks that were on A Musical History whetted our appetite, and we've been very patient for 15 years for the rest of it. It's a good day indeed!

I think that I'm looking forward to this even more than the Woodstock set that was on the Music From Big Pink Box.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Well, we've been begging for RAH 1971 and now we get it. It's a good day.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Stage Fright Deluxe Set

This is likely old news, but new to me! New blurb in Uncut that a Stage Fright 50th Anniversary Edition is on the way. Bonus tracks include "Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu", "Before You Accuse Me" and studio outtakes, and (yes!) a second CD with the 1971 Royal Albert Hall performance.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe J: Belated welcome back, and congratulations on the new grandfatherhood. Make sure the little one knows that 2020 was NOT the norm and that things will get better.


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Posted by:

Celtic Bhoy Scotland

Location: Scotland

Subject: The orange narcissist

P.s. nothing’s changed, Trump is still a complete fud, is he not? Duncan will elaborate on the Glasgow nuances here.....


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Posted by:

Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: BEG

Hi BEG.

Great respect for the synopsis of The Clash gig! I know you’ve hinted at it before, the sensational array of wonderful gigs you have attended. One of these days it would be lovely to see a list of who we have all seen at one time or another don’t you think?

I am always just so mightily impressed by a persons gig catalogue which I think says so much about them as a person.... both good and bad!

Your Danko article was great and got me thinking of Steve Forberts tribute song, Wild as the Wind. If some bugger would tell me how I could link it here for your convenience!!!!

The Luddite from Escocia!


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Posted by:

Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: Pat B

Pat, many thanks for bringing Before the Flood back to the forefront of my mind, great timing as outlined below. Wonderful album which I am going to treat myself to tomorrow in the vinyl state footprint the first time in many years...... can’t think of a better suggestion despite having spent a fair few hours deliberating over the past few days!


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Posted by:

Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: Duncan

Hi Duncan, lovely to hear from you my good man. And clearly, I’m not the only one, I hope you have a warm fuzzy feeling inside from the warmth that has been vested upon you by many other guest bookers. What a lovely outpouring of goodwill towards you Duncan. Kinda proves you are just a really good guy.

So sorry to hear your wife is struggling a bit, I wish you all good things Dunc, and every blessing for her quick recovery.

A strange year indeed and I’m delighted your grandson is still where the action is. Let’s hope better times lie ahead.

Steelers Wheel, now you’re talking! I didn’t realise there was a Paisley connection, my birthplace by the way. But absolutely, positively the sound track to one of my favourite scenes from one of my favourite movies (Reservoir Dogs) of all time! Ear! Ear!

I haven’t sent on my e mail address although more than happy to do so, I just don’t know what the protocols are and how to go about it.

All good things Duncan.


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Posted by:

Celtic Bhoy

Location: Scotland

Subject: BEG

Beg, thank you so much for the links. Loved the Richard Manuel piano links but especially the Before the Flood info, one of my favourite all time albums!! I remember when I bought that album which was back in the day when you had to save up to buy something!

I saved for a while and decided this album should be my reward...... and what a reward it was!! In fact I have just got my turntable back into action and bought some new speakers last weekend which sound sensational!. The kids are asking for ideas of Christmas gifts and I thought, I would love some vinyl, my first in some years. I had in mind asking you guys for suggestions, but I think I’m going to just cut to the chase and go straight to Before The Flood. At least that will do for my son, which leaves my daughter. Suggestions and answers on a postcard please!!


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Posted by:

Lisa

That was a great article on Richard's piano. Really interesting about how different tones are achieved up and down the keyboard.


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Posted by:

Bill M

I really like Bill Payne's article at BEGs magic-piano link. What was Richard using when he was sounding so brilliant on the UK tour with Dylan in '66? I'm sure that most of it was talent, bolstered on the best days by sympathetic miking, but a good piano has got to help.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Larry Campbell & Teresa Williams just released the It Was The Music soundtrack in their online store. It's kind of a quasi-Midnight Ramble album, with covers of Cripple Creek (Buddy Miller vocals/guitar), Chest Fever, Poor Old Dirt Farmer from Levon's album and other fun stuff.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Richard Manuel's Piano

"I also believe an instrument should challenge the musician, leaving room for growth through exploration, trial and error, while keeping an open mind and making the most of a potent imagination, all of which form a vital link to what is literally one’s relationship with the instrument, a relationship that can last for many, many years. Richard Manuel was looking for and found the “handshake,” which formed his relationship with this wonderful, and in my mind, “magic” piano."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: 1974 The World Came Around Photo


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: DAG Dylan The Band 1974


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1974 Tour

Thanks for the link, BEG. Yes, forty shows in thirty places. Also, it takes 2 CDs to get each show on. An 80 CD box set? If they taped everything. It would be a tad repetitive.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Born To Listen To Music

"This was a high-profile comeback for both acts. While virtually all the songs here were familiar and might be considered “hits,” few of them sound similar to their original versions; Dylan’s songs in particular are re-arranged and sung with a ferocity not found on the originals, while Garth Hudson’s experiments with the Lowery String Symphonizer (an early synthesizer embedded in the Lowrey H25-3 organ that was adapted from the Freeman String Symphonizer) greatly enriched The Band’s timbral palette."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 1974

Actually it would make more sense to do a 1974 Bootleg Series like 1966 and put absolutely everything they have in a box set and sell it properly. As we know, Chicago, the starting date, is the one of greatest interest. Apart from the different track list, didn't Dylan stay on through The Band set?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: 2024

True, they will have to release them all in 2024, but they only have to release a few hundred copies and in one store. The Harrison set was one store in the Uk. I assume another in the US.


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Posted by:

Pat B

From a Rolling Stone article about the short run Dylan 1970 release (with all the George Harrison stuff): "Things will get real interesting in 2024 when they’ll have to release every recording in the vault from Dylan’s Before The Flood tour with the Band."


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Posted by:

Todd

Location: CT

Subject: Time is a jet plane, it moves too fast

Thanks for posting that BEG. Yes indeed, Happy Birthday to Amy Helm! She's doing a great job carrying on the Helm musical legacy and just being an all-around great person.

That 'Blood on the Tracks' 3oth anniversary show is one that I missed, that sure would have been great to see. Glad that you got to go BEG!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Blood On The Tracks Revisited
Web: My link

Subject: Crab and I were there Amy.

AMY HELM'S BIRTHDAY TODAY!

Mesmermizes audiences

Yearns to sing for herself and in honour of her father Levon Helm

Love is so simple, to quote a phrase
You've known it all the time, I'm learnin' it these days
Oh, I know where I can find you, oh, oh
In somebody's room
It's a price I have to pay
You're a big girl all the way

A change in the weather is known to be extreme
But what's the sense of changing horses in midstream?
I'm going out of my mind, oh, oh
With a pain that stops and starts
Like a corkscrew to my heart
Ever since we've been apart


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Pop Life Podcast with Richard Crouse and Robbie Robertson

Also scroll down for interview with Gordon Lightfoot and many more.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Love Surprises
Web: My link

Subject: Peter Stone Brown Interviews Rick Danko Garland Jeffreys Levon Helm

The first time I saw Rick Danko


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Subject: Saw Richard Crouse Fran's Restaurant

Robbie Robertson and Pop Life with Richard Crouse


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Posted by:

Rod

Levon could have worn the same clothes he wore at TLW today and not looked out of place at all. I think he wore that same shirt on Tour 74.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

No Man Walks Alone

Style On Film The Last Waltz
David Isle

"But the pinnacle of the show, both musically and sartorially, is Robertson. He wears a simple dark suit, but with a polyester shirt that’s soaked in sweat by the second verse of “Up On Cripple Creek,” its 6-inch collar petting his clavicles with every beat. Around his neck is a tongue-red silk scarf, somewhere between priest’s robe and ready tourniquet. The scarf stays for the whole concert, even though the jacket is gone by the time everyone’s on stage together for “Forever Young.”

It might all look just sleazy if the music weren’t so damn good. The force and honesty of the music is what makes you realize that the clothing is kind of half a joke, but the people are definitely not. By the ‘80s, the clothes were superficially the same in some ways - Bon Jovi wore scarves on stage, Marvin Gaye wore sleazy-looking tuxedos - but by then it was all show, with none of The Band’s vitality."


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Location: Snowy Winter Wonderland
Web: My link

'The Last Waltz' is the Best Thanksgiving Movie Ever Made

STEVEN HYDEN
November 25, 2020


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Posted by:

Bill M

Fred: As they say, with age comes wisdom. Meaning it just keeps getting better!


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: My prowess with a computer knows no limits ; )

Bill M: happy to oblige. Actually I am surprised that (1) I was able to figure that out (2) that it worked and (3) I was able to figure that out!!!


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