The Band Guestbook, January 2018
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Bob FSubject: Last 5
Bob Seeger I Knew You When - I didn't like this at all.
Gregg Allman Southern Blood - Love this record.
Blood Sweat & Tears - Child Is Father To The Man- 50 Years later, still perfect.
Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds Lovely Creatures - I'm very late to the party.
Tom Petty and The HB's Hard Promises - Tom Petty Forever.
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: Not My President A Monthly Show Of Resistance
Jonathan, if you're near Astoria tonight, check out this great comedy show at Q.E.D. It's a benefit for Planned Parenthood. The 12th benefit show in the last year. A different worthy cause each month. Most of the shows have been in Astoria or Brooklyn. No disrespect intended if your political beliefs are in the other direction.
Also, enjoyed your last 5 selections. I wasn't familiar with most of the acts so it gives me some new music to check out. Thanks for that.
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JedSubject: Last 5
Dylan-Basement Tapes Bootleg Series-Disc 3-4;
The Beatles-Eight Days a Week DVD;
Eric Clapton-Blues With Russell;
Jerry Garcia & David Crosby-The Perro Sessions;
Grateful Dead-Dave's Picks Vol.1-5/25/77
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Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
Subject: Last 5
In the blues mood,
Johnny Winter - True to the Blues (4 cd set)
Buddy Guy and Junior Wells Playing the Blues
BTW Peter, finally go a copy of Versatile. I was pleasantly surprised that the the set held together as a nice listening experience. Although I could have gone with one or two less "Broken Record" shout outs. I guess I was most surprised with some of the standards (not all) where I thought Van really added value in his interpretation.
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BONKSubject: Rockin Chair
Norm. Check your Facebook messages.
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Peter VIn spite of the video, I'm sure it's bass guitar not double bass too!
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Bass -ically
Bass playing … I’ve been playing First Aid Kit’s “Ruins” a lot and the songs often sit on straightforward strong bass parts, all well-played. BUT it is very Fleetwood Mac like and it keeps making me realize how good John McVie is. The notes are probably what he would have played, but they lack his special springy tone and amazing sense of rhythm. McVie, by the mid 70s, had a very different style to blues-era Mac, but he was defining a certain bass playing style .
Link to "It's A Shame" - great song
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JonathanLocation: Queens, NYC- Walton, NY
Subject: Last 5
My last 5
Zombies Begin Here
Paul Lansky Folk Images
Destroyer Trouble In Dreams
Caetano Veloso Cateono Veleso (self tales debut)
The Fall Live At The Witch Trials
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Reflections Of My Life is great. And B.Lee, there will at times people in your audience who may be moved because of their links with the Vietnam War. I was moved at some of the comments under videos of stills on YouTube related to this. I think this comes from, in addition to the obvious lyrics, the fact the lyrics were used in'Flying Through Midnight'by John T Halliday, a memoir of a Vietnam war veteran.
B.Lee:You should check out Average White Band (album of that name for sources of music for your band). Alan Gorrie is seen as a great bass player. Before I knew Peter, he had Alan Gorrie in a list of great bass players in a discussion in the GB. (Peter?) I was always into them. The songs really get people moving.
Should be same, Jeff. E mailed you. Thanks.
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Jeff A.Subject: Dunc
Yo Dunc, i tried to forward you something i figure would resonate with you. It's about some one performing with an echoplex. The mail bounced back, looks like you killed that e mail address. If you still have mine, send a smoke signal.
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Hi Bill! how gozit? No sorry Bill, I don't know of Wayne Cardinal. Remember Carl Graham from out your way actually but he lived on Salt Spring Island. He used to be on here a quite a bit called himself, was it Boggs?. He would probably know. Salt Spring Island is the dumping ground, "Cadillac Ranch" for old musicians. Valdy has lived there for years. Gary Fellgaard, I forget his name, the guitar player from Chilliwack, my old drummer Lorne Burns.
There is a band there called "Bog Water". The stand up bass player Dave Roland and I hit it off. One time I stopped there in my fish boat years ago. We got to having a jam sitting around tables in the Ganges Harbour pub.
Marmalade's "Reflections of my Life is right up there with "Whiter Shade of Pale", "The Weight", "Who'll stop the Rain", and others. Some one said the sixties was the greatest decade for rock and roll music. I'm inclined to agree. There was reasons for songs back then that haven't come around again, (although what is happening in the States right now is trying to rear that head again).
In 1974 I owned a big water front home in Sechelt. I had a small house on the back up by the road that I rented out. People who were building a home would rent it for a time. One couple who rented it for about a year, John Pinkster was a stone mason and his wife was a teacher. John was a big fella. I used to watch him hand loading boulders on his flat deck. He weighed about 225 and was a brute, (I played hockey against him). One day a friend and I were having a beer, (Stan also played hockey in our league.) We are watching John out the window loading his truck. Stan says how well do you know John? I said not much. Stan says, he was a green beret. Over time John and I talked a lot and he told me about his adventures??. He taught me things that no one should really know to do to another man.
One of his stories, (it's a wonder he's still here) he bailed out of a plane at 7000 feet. A couple of the strings that go up to the shute ripped off and wrapped around the rest. He came down thru' the roof of a barn, broken leg and hip. I said did you go home, he says no I went back and did it some more...crazy.
Jay Black as I recall sold his band name to the other guys. Last video I saw of him, he was 62 and still had those pipes. I saw a vid from 2012 sounds ok but the guy singing does not have nearly the pipes of Jay Black. Far as I am concerned they are just still making money off Jay's pipes.
Jay of the Tokens last time I saw him in the Do Wop shows could still put it out.
One last comment. It is wonderful to see guys like Jay Black and Gary Brooker (who are both real gentlemen), still have the health and be able to perform. The video of Procul Harum's concert in the out door theater in Denmark with a big orchestra behind them is wonderful. I never tyer of listening to Gary sing that song.
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Jeff A.Eddie Shaw died todsy. He was eighty. Eddie joined Muddy Waters band on sax when he was twenty. In 72 he joined Howlin wolf's band and was the bandleader of the Wolf Gang till Wolf died, then kept it going. He began playing in bands & gaining notoriety as a early teen in Mississippi. I saw his band in Kingston NY, and several times in St Louis. Some of those were great shows...
One of his sons, Eddie Shaw JR, also known as Vaan Shaw, is a helluva guitar player. Not a sound you;d associate with Chicago Blues, but it sure as hell worked.
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b.leeLocation: DE, USA
Subject: Beatles covers
There have been many, many Beatles covers, both good, bad, and fantastically ill-advised. My favorite is Andy Fairweather-Low's 'Rocky Racoon'. Not far from the source, but somehow a bit more world-weary.
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Bill MLocation: Tronto
b.lee / Dunc / Peter V: I loved "Reflections Of My Life" at the time and still do - and retain the 45 in my sacred box of keepers. But it's the only thing of theirs that did anything at all, chartwise. I can't even imagine why anyone would cover "Ob-La-Di", but who can argue with the British voting public?
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Peter VI saw Marmalade in the early 70s. Brilliant vocals, very tight band. It was in a smallish venue too, on their way slightly down For North Americans, they had a #1 UK hit with their cover of Ob-Di-Li-Ob-Di-La.
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b.leeLocation: DE, USA
Dunc, I had no recollection of Marmalade, or so I thought. One of the guys in my band (small b) brought in a lyric/chord chart for Reflections and I said I had never heard of it. By the chorus I was singing the harmonies. I guess I had heard it! Somehow I thought "Marmalade" was a soul band. Reflections is now in the set list. The harmonies are gorgeous.
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Enjoying last five albums played.
I'm in Scottish mode just now. All very different.
Fine Cuts :The Best of Marmalade - The Sixties. Back to my dancehall days, but containing 'Reflections of my Life' - links with Vietnam War, brilliant understated guitar solo. Great players - once house band at the Marquee.
'White Album' - Average White Band. Six Scots and one of the great soul albums.
'The Lasses Fashion' by Jock Tamson's Bairns. This is the album, which is always described now as being on Richard Thompson's best ten for Q magazine. Brilliant folk.
'Posted Sober' by Michael Marra. Brilliant. Revered by thinking Scots.
'Sunday's Child' by John Martyn. Contains maybe the greatest rendition of a great English(?) song, 'Spencer The Rover'. I noticed Kirsten Scott Thomas chose this in her desert island discs.
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Bill MRockin Chair: Do you know bassist Will (or Wayne) Cardinal? Around 70, lives on the island. He came to mind because you mentioned Jay and the Americans. Around '65 the Americans offered their vacant bassist spot to Alex Darou of a northern Ontario band, the Vendettas. Unfortunately for Alex, US immigration wouldn't let him take the job, so he had to sit on the sidelines for awhile. The Vendettas were signed to the Ronnie Hawkins agency, which was co-run by Robbie Robertson's former Suede and Hawk bandmate, Scott Cushnie, who liked the Vendettas so much that he signed on as keyboardist. And when Scott rejoined the Hawkins band in the late '60s, he brought Cardinal with him.
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Jeff A.Norm, there's a version of Jay 8 the Americans touring... At least two of the members are originals possibly more. But Sandy Yaguda and Marty Kupersmith are in the band for sure. Jay Siegel, of the Tokens, tours too, it's called Jay Siegel's Tokens. He still hits those real high notes. Siegel and i believe Yaguda live in Jersey, Kupersmith lives in Orange County or sullivan County about 60- 90 minutes outside NYC, depending upon traffic. All Brooklyn Boys.
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: Sometimes.......it takes some explaining
We are leaving for 2 weeks in Mexico Feb 24. I was rummaging thru' a drawer in my desk looking for my gawd damn passport. There is the Bob Dylan Bootleg series set of CD. I don't know why it was in there....so that is number one I started to listen to.
Bob Dylan - Bootleg Series
Often when I'm cooking breakfast I put the living room tv on my favourite music channel, "Jukebox Oldies", (our house is open space living, kitchen, dining, living room all one big room.)
The great voice of Jay Black, (Jay & The Americans) singing "Cara Mia" got me into them again. Then on came "Chicago" so I got into the original Chicago lineup, "25 or 6 to 4". There is a youtube video where Terry Kath is just running thru' some riffs while the drummer is fine tuning his kit. Then Terry starts a heavy rythmn... the band comes in BANG, 25 OR 6 TO 4 it's great.
That was such a terrible thing the way Terry died, messing with a gun he didn't think was loaded and shot himself. As all the super pickers said, Terry was one of the guitar greats. What an amazing band when you look at their stats for record sales etc.
While driving home I grabbed a CD out of my built in case, Van Morrison, "Pay The Devil", then Waylon, "I've Always Been Crazy".
That's about 5 ....isn't it??
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b.leeSubject: albums, friday and today
Theolonius Monk - Les Liaisons Dangereuses 1960
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Peter VGreat minds … I have all six mentioned albums.
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joe jLocation: Southside Twillingate
Leonard: I'm Your Man
Leonard: Old Ideas (A Leonard night)
Cash: At Folsom Prison
Eva Cassidy: Blues Alley (Sat. night)
Miles Davis: Kind of Blue (because it's Sunday)
Also played a little Bowie one night, would you believe 'Ziggy Stardust'
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jhWeb: My link
Subject: «A Terminator, a Killer and a Cashmere Cat»
If any of our friends in Toronto are up for something completely different music-wise tomorrow... it may be sold out, though. And, if you go, you may find yourself contributing significantly to the average age of the audience :-)
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John DSubject: Van
Boy Peter he's on a roll. Van feeling OK?
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Peter VSubject: Van #3
Van Morrison announces THIRD release within a few months … Live at The BBC on DVD / blu-ray, due mid-February.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Randy Newman,backed by the Vivino Brothers with Larry Campbell & Rob Paparozzi om harmonica. Rob is a Jersey Boy, & one of the frontmen for the Blues Brothers. the other two are Tommy McDonnell, from Da Bronx, and Bobby Harden, from Ohio. Tommy replaced Larry Thurston, nack in 94, and has come and gone and retuened to the band since. He also worked extensively with Eileen Ivers...the three frontmen work all over NYC, JErsey, and threabouts, running all over the place,all over the country, releasin solo work, playing clubs, even small bars and restaurants, keepin busy between Blues Brothers tours. PAparozzi works alot with bernard Purdi, and also fronted Blood Sweat and Tears fo several years in the past.
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JQSubject: Recent 5
Luka Nelson & The Promise of The Real - Jury’s out.
Otis R Live in Europe - Can’t stop playing it!
Led Zep 1 - Nostalgic cheese; haven’t heard it in years.
Jake Fussell - Self titled first record.
Townes Van Zandt - In Pain - Live Album, Brilliant!
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Jon LynessLocation: NYC
Peter, I meant to post a few weeks back that I've been loving the Imelda May album. Thanks for the recommend!
One set I've been listening to a lot lately is the American Epic 2CD set... not sure if it was discussed here when it came out last year. An eclectic group of current musicians performing songs of the 1920s/30s, newly recorded on actual recording equipment from the 1920s. No direct Dylan/Band links come to mind, but the blues/folk/gospel material echoes The Anthology of American Folk Music songs that likely inspired some of Dylan's Basement Tapes covers, and the performances and the sound are terrific. Do a search for "Music from the American Epic Sessions Deluxe" on Amazon.
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glenn tSubject: last 5
i like Peter's idea: maybe we could have a "Last 5 Friday." Folks could share the last 5 or so albums. I know I've got to check out that Otis Live in Europe. There's so much great music; I love hearing someone plug an album or group I'm not familiar with.
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Jeff A.I listened to two recordings yesterday. Brothers & Sisters, by the Allmans, & Losing Game , by Lonnie Johnson. Earlier in the week Secret Handshake, by Geoff Muldaur, the Live Dead from the Fillmore around 70 or 71, the one that had the bear dancing in a circle on the cover, & Zim Zam Zoom by Ron Levy's wild Kingdom- a killer recording that i'm sure you can get from Ron, just look him up... for credentials, hit his allmusic page, Levy was Albert Kings hammond organist and pianist at 17, then BBKings at 19, toured with you name em, he toured with em, , and he produced & played on piles of heavy blues and jazz recordings.... was married to the gal who owned Bullesye Blues & Jazz, that helped . I';d describe his Wild Kingdom band as Acid Soul JAzz Blues. i caught them twice in StLousi ina clun titled Generations, late 90s, early 200s... The selection of cds i listened to lately was influenced by dusting two piles of cds and the night table they were located in the shelf of...... the technique might be called shuffle dusting or some such.
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Peter VSubject: Last Five Albums
We should maintain this regular "last five albums you listen to" thread. Here's mine for today (one the same as last week):
The Magnificent Moodies - The Moody Blues, 1965. Just found the original vinyl. With Denny Laine when they were still thinking of themselves as a soul band, covering James Brown, Chris Kenner, Sonny Boy Williamson II … and of course and most famously, Bessie Banks. Surprisingly good.
Folk - The Kronos Quartet with guests. Natalie Merchant's two tracks are easily the best. Instrumentals too.
Ruins - First Aid Kit. So popular this week in the UK, it's in the supermarket Top 10 CDs. Extremely good if you like Fleetwood Mac (Buckingham-Nicks era).
Live in Europe - Otis Redding. As last week.
Life, Love, Flesh, Blood - Imelda May.
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Walking The Dog
Link to Walking The Dog, Zoot Money, 1964. Live recording too.
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Peter VSubject: Zoot Money
A four CD box set of Zoot Money & The Big Roll Band came out on Friday. A whole CD of previously unknown BBC live recordings is included too. Jerry used to tell us that his first experience of live music was The Hawks. Mine was Zoot Money at Bournemouth Pavilion. Zoot was professionally recorded live in 1965, a major advantage but the 1965 Zoot sounds easily as competent as the few Hawks bootlegs, and way better recorded. His band included Andy Summers on guitar (The Police), Colin Allen on drums (Bob Dylan, John Mayall, Rod Stewart) and Johnny Almond on sax (John Mayall, Mark-Almond).
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Peter VOur school uniform (Roger and me) was a grey suit with white shirt, brown, blue and white tie and cap. In the first two years (age 11-13) it had to be light grey with shorts. Third year (age 14) was a mix of shorts and long trousers. From the fourth year (15) it could transition to charcoal grey. Until the year before me, it had been brown blazers with blue and white trim. Some older kids still wore those and in retrospect they looked better than the suits. I think the suits were a mark that the school regarded us having two routes: university, or bank clerks. They thought the suits would mark us out as bank clerks. I remember just two kids were still wearing short trousers and light grey at 16, 17 and 18 years old. Both had fathers who were surgeons. Odd. I would have been excruciatingly embarrassed. The banking obsession was very 1960s. “A secure job for life.” Little did my friends who got led down that road know they’d all be made redundant at fifty or before. Still some made very good and rewarding life changing career switches.
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Bill MSubject: amid the mud and the blood and the beer
Dunc: Good story. I remember an American singer telling how in his day toughness was achieved by giving boys cissy names like Sue. So you may have gotten off easy.
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Jeff A.Pete, the lectures you attended were with good intent.And apparently authors are satisfied with paying something reasonable for use. I wasn;t specific previously but wording of the promo of the BRIC lecture BRIC seemed to mostly be about how to safely digitally hijack copyrighted works, or portions thereof) in video & musical new "works."
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Subject: Roger, Peter, Al - caps
Roger, Peter, Al - I'm catching up with hats. I think there was a reason why us gifted children, who passed the qualifying exam and went to grammar schools(academies up here) had to wear caps and garish uniforms - it was to toughen us up.
By the time I got to the academy, caps had been phased out, but I had to wear a bright maroon blazer with three coloured braid, maroon, yellow and black striped tie, pristine white shirt, grey flannels, SHINING SHOES and always have a fresh handkerchief. Still can't leave the house, if I don't have one. Also, carrying hockey sticks and tennis rackets. And, as Peter says, having to pass the secondary modern plebs every day, no uniform, fags at the mouth etc., and only carrying football boots.
Okay, if you lived in a leafy suburb, but I lived in an area which I loved called a scheme - many lovely people, many brilliant people, but more than a handful of nutters and an active gang. I don't think it would be as bad as a project.
The abuse I took for wearing this uniform was quite strong and was suffering the normal occasional pushes, slaps, bootings etc.
I am a kind person, brought up in a strong socialist family, but I am not soft. Never mistake kindness with softness. So I developed a strategy. If I was 'challenged' by any ned and they were the same age or younger than me (I had to be realistic), I used to wait until I saw the person on their own, then attack them often using my hockey stick. As I got older, every day, the abuse disappeared. Borstal boys, gang members, approved schoolers - all were fair game. You would be alright in the Liverpool schoolboy enclosure with me, Al.
So Al, Peter, Roger there was a reason for wearing the hideous uniforms of grammar schools. It's the same sentiment as 'A Boy Named Sue'. The real reason was to toughen us gifted children up.
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Peter VSubject: Copyright
I’ve attended several lectures on copyright. Authors should. It is complex. In some areas such as term of copyright, the USA offers better protection than the UK. Others, such as limiting the extent of “fair use” the UK offers better protection than the USA.
For example, on art. Technically to reproduce an LP sleeve you might need permission from the artist, the record label whose logo is shown, the subject of the cover photo, the photographer, the designer who assembled it and the illustrator if it’s an illustration … and the lettering might be an illustration. In practice, I’m told no music magazine has ever asked permission to reproduce a sleeve, and everyone’s OK with that but all would come down like a ton of bricks on someone who used the sleeve on a pirate or bootleg. Pastiche sleeves are an art form of their own from We’re Only In It For The Money to Sound Effects (reproduces a BBC sleeve) to London Calling.
You have to know the edges, For example if I put (say) a book or record on a table with a catching sleeve design, then put a pen lying across it and a coffee cup next to it, and the corner of the sleeve was out of shot (so it was not complete) I have a collage and do not need permission. If I take a photo of a Starbucks coffee shop, I technically need their permission to reproduce their logo if it is the dominant feature in the photo,. However, if it’s a street with Starbucks next to MacDonalds and people walking, I don’t need permission from either.
No one would bother about a couplet from a song lyric. A whole verse? In a critical article or review, that’s fair use. Whole lyric? Not fair use.
It’s a minefield. We were filming outside an Oxford college and the bursar charged out telling us they wanted thousands to have the college in the background of the film. Speilberg had been filming there a month earlier. The director pointed out we were standing in a public street, therefore it was legal, and if he didn’t like it he could move his college.
It is all complicated by ambulance chasing lawyers. Musician friends tell me they regularly get contacted by lawyers saying “A line from your song is quoted in this book” or “your record sleeve can be seen in this picture”. Do you want us to sue (for a percentage)?
We need more clear advice on the edges of copyright, but we also need common sense.
Many years ago, we used short extracts from novels in our text books. The standard fee was £60, which was fine for Douglas Adams, Graham Greene and Keith Waterhouse. Then we asked to use the lyric of Summertime Blues. They asked for £2000 plus a percentage of the entire work. We didn’t use it. A year later another book used it for £60. In contrast, we asked for permission to use four Gary Larson cartoons, and got permission. A rival author said he had been asking for years and was always refused.
The trouble is that the decision is made by a lowly employee of the agency or publisher and never gets to the artist or author. It’s also irritating that the easiest route for the lowly employee is simply to say “no” to everything.
BTW, there is no copyright on titles of songs, books or albums, except in Mexico.
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glenn tSubject: Bob F
Thanks for link to Bowie video - was not aware. Will have to check it out. Have a great weekend everyone!
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Jeff A.Bill, while there has always been infringement, and always been people benefitting from infringemnt, the digital world has made it practically acceptable. I agree, what Indio is doing is morally bereft. they may feel they have to do everything they can to draw attention to their act and gigs, andf i guess they come from Indio too.... So to them, this is all okay.
Today, you can steal with a computer and a mouse. And it is becoming very okay. BRIC, is big media and arts organization in Brooklyn, it is part of the Brooklyn Academy of Music. Among other things, they offer classes in all sorts of things. I saw that they had an attorney giving a lecture on how to legally use copyrighted materials, and also what you can;t get away with. What you could do, and what you coudn;t do. but the empahasis was on the what you could get away with using copyrighted original works in your own " art". I sent a few emails to various departments and people there really coming down hard on em, and i posted about it on their FB page too. OF course, there was no response.
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Bill MWeb: My link
Looking at the group's own Facebook entry, I'd say that while a copyright suit against the group known as Indio is unlikely to succeed, they've chosen to skate on morally thin ice. While their handle, if that's the word, may be 'indioclassicrockband', it appears to be them and not some concert promoter that chose to publicize themselves in their home area as "INDIO "The Band"", when they could have chosen, for example, "INDIO, the band" or "the band Indio" or - as caps are important to them, "INDIO THE BAND". I note that Indio "The Singer" -- of "Big Hard Sun", most famously - is from southern Ontario (just like the non-INDIO "The Band") and has Joni Mitchell singing along (just like the ditto).
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: Bowie The Last Five Years
Glenn, speaking of Bowie, have you see the HBO Documentary The Last Five Years? It's really something special.
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Peter VI've been annoyed often by Bob Dylan concert adverts in recent years for BOB DYLAN AND his BAND" getting over-excited before I realize it is "his" not "the". I think Bob's "passing off" his bscking group.
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b.leeSubject: What's in a name
Apologies to Shakespeare...
I would agree with Jeff. The issue is that the words "The Band" are generic and descriptive. What kind of band? Rock band? Marching band? Mariachi band? Band of brothers? Wedding band? (OK, enough). It is obvious that he Indio boys are not trying to pass themselves off as decedents of or inheritors of the Band legacy. (Maybe they do The Weight, but what classic rock cover band does not?) The capitalization and use of quotes around "The Band" might be considered gratuitous and in bad taste, but in my layman's opinion, any copyright infringement case would be thrown out on it's ear. Kind of like General Motors suing Chevy Chase for his name.
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N©RBERTLocation: who knows
There was a band called “and the b” once, but they got sued in the circle.
In France there is a used car dealer called “La Bande” (depuis 1998).
In Germany a firm called “Die Band” is polishing questionable stocks.
In the UK a black tied man, called “The Band”, allegedly attended the Presidents Club Charity Dinner last Thursday, groping all over the place.
.... a chaotic world unfolds up on us. …there even seems to be more than one Norbert .... so is this really me? ...
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Jeff A.Elwood, If "The Band" is registered, there may be trademark infringement, but, you are off the mark Elwood. The band you refernmce titles itself: Indio "The band." The reason they don't use Indio is there is a Gordon Peterson who uses the stage name Indio. I'm not defendng them,just stating the actual situation as it stands.
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Elwood ReppertLocation: Desert Hot springs, Ca.
There is a group of musicians who have decided to take your name for their act in Indio, Ca. they are promoting themselves as "The Band". Maybe I'm being petty but I happen to hold your music dear & find this flagrant misrepresentation a fraud of insulting proportions. I'd love to call my band Tex Beneke & the Modernaires, but it's already been taken. Even if all the members have passed that doesn't give me the right to just latch onto the name. Just thought I'd make you aware that someone has decided to cash in on the name you all made world famous. What's even more shameful is that I know , judging by the age of the bandmembers in the promo pic, that they are quite aware of your legacy, but have decided to perpetrate this fraud anyway.
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glenn tSubject: one more...
I forgot: Los Lobos "Disconnected in NYC"
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glenn tSubject: back to the music...
Here are the albums I've listened to most recently: Pete Townshend & Ronnie Lane "Rough Mix", Van Morrison & The Chieftains "Irish Heartbeat", Traffic "John Barleycorn", David Bowie "Live Nassau 1976", David Bowie The Next Day". What do GBers think of new Mavis Staples? new U2?
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: The true feelings
Glenn your candidness in letting us in on your hardest times shows the true value of this "Community" as you aptly put it. I know it isn't easy to tell people of your most personal feelings. I as I am sure everyone feels closer knit as friends supporting each other.
I thankfully haven't lost a child, however many friends close to me have passed over the years from mostly that dreaded cancer. The most difficult to me was the loss of my brother, the one just younger and next to me. Killed in a logging accident at only age 21. His life was just beginning. I have never stopped thinking about him. I confided in my wife just the other day, (for the first time to anyone.) I have never gotten over this and what happens to me to often. I may drop something, or something may happen and I think to myself, I can change this or do it over, but I can't bring back my brother. It probably sounds odd but it is something that has never gone away.\
Now at 73 I still feel the same way. My youngest brother and I play a lot of music together. We love a lot of old John Fogerty songs. I still choke up when I play, "Who'll stop the rain." That was Craig's favourite song.
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Al EdgeHad no idea about your losses Glenn till reading it just now.
Can only echo everybody's heartfelt sympathies to yourself and your loved ones. As a father and grandfather I cannot begin to imagine the unbearable heartache you and your family have been forced to endure. Our thoughts are with you mate. God Bless.
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Bob FGlenn, so sorry to hear about your son and grandson.
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Jeff A.Hugh Masakela died, seemingly after a long battle with prostate cancer.
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Jeff A.One of the mostly unknown but great soul and blues singers died on Saturday. Terry Evans. He's been discussed in here over the years, mostly for his work backing Ry Cooder live and in the studio. Terry had a solo career, and was part of a duo with bobby King, though it was really many years till he made solo records or record with King. He was one helluva singer. i caught him live in St Louis, in a small club, took Johnnie;s wife to see him, timewise all i recall is that it had to be after Johnnie died. Great voice, great show, he tooka lot of blues and soul standards and just changed one or two changes, to suit him. Not whole new arrangements, justa subtle change... Helluva nice guy, hung out with us, looked like Carl Weathers and was really tall, had a scar or two on his head that no way could've got there easy.
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NorbertGlenn, sorry to hear man.
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NorbertSubject: Ben Ali Libi
Not even 10 miles from our home lived a great man and a wonderful poet; Willem Wilmink.
He wrote this poem (translation Dirk de Klein):
"Ben Ali Libi
On a list of artists who were killed in the war.
With a smile, a fib and a magic box.
Then the friends of Widow Rost* figured,
Who had so oft hid a flower or a pigeon,
In the concentration camp perhaps,
And always when I hear a loudmouth.
For Ben Ali Libi, the little schmuck
[*Rost van Tonningen was a Dutch Nazi during WWII, N]
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: Swampers Release: Muscle Shoals Has Got The Swampers
Perfect name for the record.
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Charlie Y.Location: Down in Old Virginny
Good to see this place is still here. I made it to Beale Street for some live music for the first time tonight, saw a place with a "Juke Joint" sign and, of course, thought of The Band and this page. Rock on my friends...
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Bill MGlenn T: Well said. So often it's the small stuff you're talking about that really helps - those around us and ourselves.
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John DSubject: Glenn t
Wonderful advice all around glenn. Thank you.
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glenn tSubject: Thanks
Thanks everybody for the kind words. Would not wish this experience on anyone. You never know what challenges may come your way, but one has to keep moving forward, and to find & keep your joy and peace, otherwise the sadness could consume you. We lost our youngest grandson the following year and my dad (he was nearly 90), so we had a tough stretch, but I am so grateful for my wonderful wife, and all our family that help keep me going every day. We need each other folks, and I do hope that people learn sooner rather than later, and definitely before a loved one passes, to be more joyful, to share and spread peace and happiness, rather than anger and hatred, to every one. Every one. Doesn't matter their age, their religion, their color, their economic standing, whatever. We all win when we can learn to cherish everybody, every individual. But nobody wins when we justify our anger and disparagement of some one or some people. So hug those closest to you; smile at the folks you see at the market; let the driver cut into your lane without cussing under your breath. I believe the more we find and cherish the good we see around us, the more of that we see and experience every day. There's a lot of good that happens in this guestbook. Thank you all for sharing your stories, your love of music, your thoughts and dreams, for your camraderie...truly we have a great little community here -- let's keep it going as long as possible!
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LisaI'm so sorry for your loss, Glenn. It's a terrible problem, huge where I live where it has reached epidemic proportions. Deepest sympathies to you and your family.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: Voices. Lives. Personalities. Memories
Charlie Ingui, of the Soul Survivors ( ANYC band that moved to Philly in 1965) came from Philly to angel's Memorial yesterday. He led the performance ofExpressway To Your Heart the first Gamble Huff hit, that the Soul Survivors joy with. 73 or 74 years old, the guy still has it, the energy, the pipes,da moves, da works. HE told us that his brother died in January , also of cancer. As sick as he was, Angel and Johnny Gale drove to Philly when they had a memorial show for Richie, this past June.
I linked a recent version of Backstabbers Richie & charlie they sing on, by In The Pocket, a Philly band led by the Hooters drummer.It's at the bottom of the article... Richie had the smoother, mellower voice, charlie is the more energetic guy. Still has great pipes, generates teenage likeability on stage.
Joey Spampinato, of NRBQ, and Keith richards's bands, sent a video. What a smile and great way of speaking this guys hAS...Joey and Angel grew up together in da Bronx.. In school. they liked the same girl, and had a fistfight over her.the last time they met, Angel reminded him and claimed to win.Their careers kinda each others , both were in acapella groups, both played bass and they were in competing ( friendly) bands all through school. Both moved to FLorida with their bands while at a young age. And, both were diagnosed with cancer right around the same time. Joey is still undergoing treatment.
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jhWeb: My link
This is pretty good!
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John DSubject: glenn t
I can't imagine the pain glenn. As a parent it's a nightmare for all of us; at the thought of it happening.
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Peter VCan't even start to imagine the pain, Glenn. So sorry.
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A moving tribute, Jeff. The piano playing on the song, even on this laptop, is beautiful.
So sorry, Glenn. A terrible loss.
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Jeff A.Glenn, there's no words. The loss of a child, gotta be rougher than losing a limb.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: You're Gonna Cry. Listen To Morphine
Wanna have a nervous breakdown? This, Morphine.the song i linked is raw. It was more raw live tonight. I wrote something here when my friend & occasional musical collaborator Angel Rissoff died on Nov 9. Tonight there was a musical memorial/ tribute to him at The Cutting Room. The song i linked is by his daughter Emily. She released the song today..Emily lived with Angel, went away to college, finished with a degree in music, moved back home about a year ago i guess. She wrote the song about him dying of liver cancer and him being dead. Emily opened tonight with three songs of hers, this was the last. All of 22 years old i guess, how she held it together i don't know.It was raw. the song was more powerful, a little less innocent in sound,, and more hurtful but wondrously so live. Wondrously , cause you hadda wonder how she could sing it without losing it.... There's a line, you'll know it when you hear it, i don't think there was a dry eye or face left in the room of two hundred or so people when Emily got to that line. I know i had tears streaming down my face, the first time in 59 years of living that i cried in public like that.
Some of the best musicians in the world came out to remember Angel. Far as household names go,Gene Cornish & Eddie Brigati from the Young Rascals were there, spoke and performed. The rest were names music lovers and music people know, some were Jon Cobert, the keyboardist form John Lennon's NYC band, Seth Glassman, Johnny Gale, Frank Vilardi, George Naha and more, the Uptown Horns, the two most recognizable name sof w hich are Arno hecht, and crispin cioe. also Lou Marini .. Stew Cutler...all, and many more performed...... guys and gals who have performed and recorded with the biggest names in music for 30-40 years now. Many more peopel too some fo the vocalists were Elaine Caswell, and christine ohlman, again, top of the heap. And the music was powerful and gorgeous. ..
Home now, i listened to that song again, and of course, couldn't help but cry. The man was my friend, this is his daughter singing , so it's personal for me. but, i think this is one of those songs that could give anyone a nervous breakdown. Whaddya think?
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glenn tSubject: Compared To What
Jeff A - thanks for link to that video. Have always enjoyed that tune and "Cold Duck Time" from Swiss Movement album - great stuff!
Haso (responding to question of a few days back) - I never attended the St. Louis campus; just College.
So sorry to hear Tom Petty was lost to accidental overdose; it's a huge problem obviously, and America in particular needs to address its dependence on over the counter and off the street drugs. Coroner's report said my son's overdose was accidental. That's no comfort for losing my 26 year old boy. It's been over 4 years, and I miss him dearly. Too Soon Gone indeed.
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jhSubject: Posting links in the GB
Mr WD, please send us an e-mail ASAP, and we’ll lead you through the «secret entrance» here, from where you can post links and mostly avoid the wrath of Mr Cash.
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Thanks, Bill M. 'Let's Frolic Again' is a great album for me. 'Down By The Henry Moore' is a real improvement on the original. Really enjoyed the Bobby George track. Thanks. Playing Garth's accordion on the last John Martyn album. A critic described it as a'drunken accordion'...I know what he means. Brilliant.
I've had enough of winter, dark, winter, dark.
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Warbling DankoLocation: Alabama
Whispering Danko isn't so bad. Then again, I think maybe that ought to be Whispering Manuel. Maybe I'm Danko the Imposter.
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Jeff A.Bling Danko. There ya go Warbler. Another variation.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: Compared To What
Not alot of bands try this one. I know one performer for whom it's a standard.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
The cause of Tom Petty's death is essentially an accidental overdose: " “multisystem organ failure due to resuscitated cardiopulmonary arrest due to mixed drug toxicity.”
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Jeff A.Y' know Warbler, Warbling Danko is a good name, & reasonable choice. Should you ever tire of it, you might give Whispering Danko a whirl. It's a little more adventurious....mysterious even...that outa place i works so I'm leaving it.
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Jeff A.Warbler, just put the address in the body of the post and write - dot com. Peopel will understand
When Amy wants to play blues, she's a real humdinger of a uptempo blues singer. She can belt em out. I've not witnesses enough of it in the two of her band shows i saw, but don't know what to tell you to expect from her at a blues festival. I saw her sing some blues with Levon;s band at Rambles, and with The Barnburners. sh;es right at home, and excellent when she does..
Alvin Youngblood Hart is a badass at any kind of music. Blues, any kind of Rock and roll, or country. I've seen him solo in St Louis, acoustic, at one of Henry Townsend's birthday parties, and later on, i caught him at a Merle Haggard Tribute at Lincoln Center in the winter/spring of 2005 i tihnk. it voulda been 2007 thought, i doubt it. The lineup was Larry Campbell, Teresa Wiliams, Jorma Kauhonene, Alvin, & Jim Lauderdale, with tony Leoone on drums, Lincoln schleiffer on bass, and Barry Mitterhoff i tihnk played some mandolin. In any event, Jorma didntl; have one f his best vocal nightss, and ALvin, much younger, really stole the show. vocally, on guitar, & in terms of presence. ( imho). but, everyone was suprerb, Teresa really shone on vocals too,
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Warbling DankoSo I just found out Amy Helm will be playing at the Blind Willie McTell festival in Thomson, GA this May. I went last year and wasn't overly impressed with the lineup (with the noteworthy exception of Alvin Youngblood Hart), but this year might be different. Who here has seen Amy Helm play? What should I expect? Just how "bluesy" would you say she is?
I tried to link the festival homepage, but I keep getting flicked off by Johnny Cash...
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Warbling DankoLocation: Alabama
My personal opinion about the Roy Moore v. Doug Jones outcome is that it's a temporary upset and not necessarily an indication of a sweeping shift in demographics. If such a change is occurring, it's all going to be very gradual. Roy Moore was accused of some awful things and wasn't even very popular with Republicans, but it was still closer than a lot of people want to think about. I live in a university town, which often feels like a political bubble, so it can be a tricky vantage from which to judge trends across the rest of the state.
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jhWeb: My link
Subject: «Miss You»
Linked photo: The rather international crew behind soon-to-be-major-hit «Miss You», released this week. L-r: The trio Major Lazer — Jillionaire (Trinidad), Diplo (USA) & Walshy Fire (Jamiaca) — Cashmere Cat (Norway) and Tory Lanez (Canada). CC visited Levon’s barn with us a couple of years ago, and seriously enjoyed the top quality performances and the vibes of Woodstock. Music, the universal language.
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Peter VSubject: serrez a gauche
Driving on the left … here in Poole as a Channel ferry port we have some multilingual keep to the left” signs. A friend lived in West Africa. The problem is that English-speaking countries drive on the left, French ones drive on the right. There were long land borders with no marker of the border when he lived there in the early 70s. He said cars would be driving on the left, see others cars coming towards them driving on the right … assume they’d crossed the border and switch sides. The car coming the other way would make the same assumption and so both would crash, but on the other side of the road. Then comes the question of which country they were in at the time. He thought it was a good test case for training car insurance people.
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Peter VWhile I normally steer insects, even wasps, towards doors or windows, it is a good thing to kill false black widow spiders. They're spreading quite fast in the UK, especially in the south … cold weather kills them apparently. and the much milder winters of the last twenty years have caused the spread. They wouldn't kill anyone, but a bite is painful and can add a fever. Even if we see one in the garden shed, and we frequently do, we'll squash it.
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LisaI meant the noodling not Bill's lucky escape, but true, Australia seems to have more than its fair share alarming insects, snakes, etc. My sister-in-law just sent a picture of a huntsman spider she caught in her house. Personally, I never kill spiders. Always trap them and take them out, but I wouldn't want to tangle with one of those guys.
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WallsendA lot of visitors to Australia don't realise how dangerous things can be here. People start drinking and they think they will go for a swim not realising that there are crocs in the water. Of course you cannot see them at night. Another danger is the heat. Someone died a few days back after they got lost on a hiking track. They were only lost for a couple of hours but that was all it took. Still, you are much more likely to die of a road accident than a croc. Tourists often drift over to the wrong side of the road because they are not used to driving on the left. Same in New Zealand.
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LisaSounds to me like that jolly old combination, alcohol and testosterone.
Good grief Bill - glad you were spared a gruesome end, yikes!
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Bill MThe next time I hear people wondering why today's not-quite-adults can be so brainless as to munch into a Tide biscuit, I'll tell them about stump-fishing / noodling / handfishing. Sometimes I wonder how so many of us got this far.
Wallsend: Odd timing, you bringing up dangerous Australian wildlife. Just yesterday I replied to an email from Rockin Chair, who'd sent along some pictures of his boat. Nice looking, so I said nice things and added that I'd hitched a lift on one like it in northeast Queensland long ago. I told him that I'd waded to shore in the dark because the boat was falling apart, but I didn't add the detail that I started in chest-high water, walked up, over and down the other side of a big sandbar a couple hundred yards offshore, then continued to the beach where I spent the night. Next morning some locals. Making conversation, mentioned some things in passing that indicated that the sandbar id crossed was the nightly stomping grounds of the local 12-footer (meaning croc). I still sometimes get a bit of a shiver thinking about how my story could have ended.
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JQSubject: Roy Moore
Hi and welcome Warbling Danko - Do you think that left turn in the recent ‘Bama election is indicative of anything permanent or will see an equal and opposite turn in this November’s congressional election?
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Warbling DankoLocation: Alabama
That's called noodling or handfishing in my experience but I wouldn't be surprised if Ronnie and Levon had their own terminology over in Arkansas. Can't say I've ever tried this.
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LisaSpeaking of swamps, didn't Ronnie Hawkins and Levon talk about some bizarre and dangerous nighttime practice involving old water-logged tree stumps in swamps and snakes? Or was it snakes? Called something like catfish-dogging? Where you reach down into the rotted tree stump in the dark, but you're not sure what exactly you're going to be grabbing? Possibility 1 - fish; possibility 2 - poisonous snake?
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WallsendThere is a video of Okefenokee Joe on youtube singing the song about his dog. Seems like a good guy. He would fit in well in Australia. We have heaps of dangerous animals. When I went on holiday in north Queensland there were lots of signs along the beach saying 'Beware of crocodiles'. I wasn't keen on taking my chances so I stayed out the water.
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Peter VJust checked online … MacKenzie Crook said in November that Series III would be the last. The "Series IV in 2018" may just have been an announcer on autopilot. But who knows? The last "EPISODES" aired in the USA in August and still hasn't been shown here.
You enquired last month about Toby Jones on stage. Well … We now have tickets to see Toby Jones (Detectorists) with Stephen Mangan (Episodes) in Harold Pinter's "The Birthday Party" in March.
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Peter VSubject: Detectorists
We're watching Season 3 through again (BBC4 broadcast the whole series in one evening just after Christmas and we recorded it). After the last episode, the announcer said "Watch out for Series IV in 2018."
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Warbling DankoLocation: Alabama
Bill F here. I'll be posting under this name from now on for several reasons, but primarily because there are several names here similar to Bill F and I don't want to cause any confusion.
Jeff A. - I don't have any real close calls with alligators per se. I've been on enough swamps and rivers that I've been around them and even had them come mere inches from my canoe, but I never felt like I was in any danger. I've come a lot closer to being bitten by a copperhead.
I actually grew up in Georgia and we had an old swamp man named Okefenokee Joe who would come out to the schools, showing off snakes and preaching a message of outdoor competency he called being "Swampwise." He was sort of our local equivalent to the Crocodile Hunter—a living folkloric character. I remember him playing his guitar to us and singing a ballad about his dog Swampy who got eaten by an alligator. I'm pretty sure Okefenokee Joe is still around but it's probably been over 15 years since I've seen him.
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JQSubject: The Detectorists
PV - Did you say there was a season 4? Season 3 started here yesterday on Acorn TV. I’m trying to watch it slowly..
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: The Greatest Showman
Cinema reviews continue with The Greatest Showman. It is the Academy season.
Entered at Tue Jan 16 17:56:58 CET 2018 from (184.108.40.206)Posted by:
Francesco SinibaldiLe sourire et le conte du cœur. ( other version ) Quand les ombres de la nuit reviennent sur les roses pour donner une chanson le soupir mystérieux m'invite à traduire le chant de la mort et alors le sourire devient le manteau d'un sonnet délicat. Francesco Sinibaldi
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: Abraham, Martin & John
Bob Dylan and Clyde King's beautiful version of Abraham, Martin & John from Trouble No More.
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Jeff A.Subject: Larkin & Poe
Editing photos and graphics for a video with the TV on the background, I overheard the names Larkin and Poe in close proximity. Sure enough, Larkin is the John Cusack character, and Poe is the Nicholas Cage character , in Con air. I've seen the flick or parts of it several times over the years, but never made the connection.
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Jeff A.Bill F, since you're from down AlaBbma way, do you have any alligator tales to tell?
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: Long Years of Music
I'm a long time fan of Ray Materick Bill. I remember mentioning him long ways back. I guess my favourite song of Otis Redding should be "Dock of the Bay" but I have a real soft spot for "Try A Little Tenderness".
In todays music, the young man who impresses me by far the most is the Australian boy, "Keith Urban". Many hear may not listen to him because he is deemed Country.
I've just been watching his new years show where he pays tribute to all the musicians who died last year. He is quite incredible no matter what music he plays. Give him a listen on this youtube new years show it is worth it.
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Bill MWeb: My link
Dunc again: Lost on YouTube (you know how it goes), I was led to Ray Materick's mid '70s Daniel Lanois produced hit, "Linda Put The Coffee On", which caused me to seek out Materick's absolutely stunning first release, a tiny but forgotten hit, "Seasons Of Plenty" - see link. (He's from Hamilton, Ontario, though recently retired to the Gulf Islands of British Columbia, I've heard.)
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Bill MWeb: My link
Dunc: You're right about "Old Hotel" by Blackie and the Rodeo Kings. Garth's accordion creates a similar magical languor on "Tennessee Blues" by Bobby Charles (just Bobby, Garth and Amos Garrett). As a friend said when I played it for him ages ago, "I could listen to this all day." Come to think of it, when I introduced him to Robbie's solo on Ronnie Hawkins' "Who Do You Love" on the same evening (he's English and maybe five years younger than me, so came to the Band via TLW), his eyes popped out of his head and he said, "Bill - I must have this!) So a good judge of music.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: Thirty plus minutes of Nilsson live from 71
Linked ......Nilsson was a Bed Stuy Brooklyn native who moved to L.A. as a teen.
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Lisa you are right. In the 60's Pea Coats were a fad. Also Greek fishermen's hats. Also in the late 80's, (at least out here in our country). In the eighties I think some people got tired of being cowboys.
Greek fishermen's hats were the only hat I ever wore much. They are wool, comfortable and the reason I wore them. When I was a fisherman. Gillnetting, when you are hauling your net in a howling south east wind, rain blowing in your eyes so hard you can hardly see you understand the value of those hats.
30 years and more ago we fished the "fall fishing" in October, November. We fished for "chum" salmon, also known as "dog salmon", so named because the Indians used to feed them to their dogs. This time of year the weather gets really bitter out here.
My mum always used to knit us Indian Sweaters. I don't know if you know of the very famous "Cowichan" sweaters the indian women knit. You can find them on the internet. Anyway many years ago I begged my mum to knit me a pullover one. She did, a black one. I still have it tho' it is worn thru' in places.
I would have on just a T shirt and that sweater and my rain gear. Out in that cold howling wind it was like my mum always had her arms wrapped around me. I was warm and comfortable. One night about the mid eighties there was a fleet of us fishing off the north shore of Malcolm Island. By the morning the wind was over 50 knots. I went out to pick up my morning set. The wind was so hard I had to keep putting my boat in reverse to get enough slack to get the fish out. These fish average 15 pounds. I had 110. By the time I got my net aboard I could hardly lift my arms. Wrapped in that sweater I leaned back against my net drum for a few minutes and rested. I then got inside, headed my boat for Port Hardy and put the auto pilot on. I got some coffee going. One of my friends called me on the vhf phone. He said where in hell have you been we were worried about you. I said I was picking my gawd damn net. He says did you get fish? I said I got 110........he had 9...:-)
Entered at Mon Jan 15 14:39:11 CET 2018 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
Bill MWeb: My link
Subject: Steel Men / Google / BaRK
I had a chance to test a friend's new Google toy - a wireless music box that will play what you ask it to play. The first test was "Google, play Blackie and the Rodeo Kings". It did, second album, first song. The second test was "Google, play 'Steel Men'". It did, a version by an Andy Lang, who I hadn't heard of. Old-style googling turned-up the facts that it was really Andy Lee Lang, an Austrian (not Australian) C&W singer whose version of 'Steel Men' is, amazingly, from this millennium - 2010. It owes much to the Jimmy Dean version.
I also learned that the earliest cover of the Debonairs' original was by Roger Whittaker, his second 45 when he was still going as Rog Whittaker, June 1962. As it was done before the Jimmy Dean, it's closer to the Debonairs - see link.
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hasoLocation: Seacoast NH
Subject: gb, pencils, maybe even music
Yeah, Lisa I remember pea coats as well. I might give Bill F similar advice as you did. My introduction to Jan's site, perhaps 8 or 9 years back maybe, was I read every article in the Library. In fact I think I did that before reading TW'soF and B. Hoskyn's 1st book. I actually thought that one preferable to Small Town, which seemed more interested in name-dropping than anything else. Either way, Bill, keep writing.
To the aside-sort of comment about clothing etc. I actually find that other topics keep a certain amount of vitality here. You definitely need to keep Norm dropping in his nuggets, and we can't all speak intelligently about seafarin'.
Peter: you're tale of troubles w/ headgear and presumably, headmasters (the old term here for heads of private schools), put me in mind of our prep school. In those days you had to wear a coat & tie for classes; take off the coat if the temperature got above 80F; (glenn t, did you ever go over to St. Louis?). We had, I think 6 or 7 different dress regs, but I recall guys stretching the idea of a tie by tying a shoelace around their collared shirt. That and ripping the patch pockets off your grubbiest Levi cords to fit under the no-patch-pocket regime were certain ways to earn demerits.
Jeff: I'm more of a wood guy, but my roofer's got a good brake as he does tons of sheetmetal. I actually put a couple of rubber bands around my #3 Ticonderogas & they stay above my ear/in the ball cap in pretty good fashion. Heights: I worked for one guy that couldn't countenance even pump jacks; we had to pipe stage everything. Of course, that said I can barely move my 24"/24' aluminum pick on my own these days. I'll leave most of the political stuff to you, although I'll admit I've come up w/ a better way to reference Twitler than my previous "La Naranja", which doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. When you had a new guy, were they the "FNG", or is that particular to New England? But in that vein, for me, he's now the "SFG", stable f genius.
Peter: I look forward to your 3 Billboards review. What I've read so far elsewhere seems to call to mind "Nebraska", from a few years ago or that northland mining flick w/ Ms McDormand and Charlize Theron or even further back, a Paul Newman movie w/ Melanie Griffith set in an old upstate NY rust-belt sort of place.
Todd: thanks for your links.
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JQSubject: Otis Redding - Live in Europe
Whew, thanks for the reminder! Nobody’s home except me and I’ve been blasting it. The best record by the King of Soul is quite a thing. December marked the 50th anniversary of his death, I still remember that news. I’ve been listening to Eddie Hinton recently and I can hear him creeping into Otis, strictly homage and not copy-cat in my opinion.
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LisaI remember pea coats or jackets from the 60s. Weren't they popular then just as regular winter coats?
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: Blow the man down boys!
In reference to John and Peter's resent comments regarding great coats. I have a real fine great coat. I've had it so many years I don't remember where I bought it. It has no tags or identification on it. It is black and has the shoulder straps to stow a hat so I may have got it at the Army - Navy surplus second hand store. Mine doesn't get much use as I use it over blazer and slacks or a suit, clothes I seldom wear. What I am coming to is Pea Coats.
I expect that some of you know what pea coats are. What brought this to mind, I went down to the store here the other day. The south east was howling and it was raining. An old fellow in the store said to me. "That looks like a warm comfortable coat". I said it is a pea coat. I was surprised he didn't know what that was.
I have a fairly new pea coat I got from Wal-Mart a while back. My daughter commented on it one day. I told her it was a pea coat. What's that she says. I said it's what sailors wear I've had them all thru your life. I looked them up for her on the internet. I was surprised to find the controversy of their origin. Now Peter and Dunc may have some history of this. Some are saying the Netherlands, some England amoungst other places. I used to get the real good wool pea coats used from the surplus store but can't find them any more.
Post Script - It would seem the senile character from the Scandinavian quarter who had to hack my name way back there has finally lost his marbles, or is looking for attention. Championing Trump, I suppose because Trump as Hitler chooses the light skinned blonde homosapians over the dark. Remember we all bleed red, see with our eyes, talk out of our mouths. Show me a difference.
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Jeff A.NWC. My sincere answer to you is to seek daily psychiatric help ( you can take weekends off, give the poor healer a break) or just end your misery :-). If neither appeal to you, well, there's always the needle.
Entered at Sun Jan 14 16:33:45 CET 2018 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
Peter VSubject: Live in Europe
Absolutely, John D. What I wrote in my "Best of 2017" on my blog (BEST REISSUE):
Reissued on vinyl, Black Friday 2017. I was pondering the vinyl at £17.99 and I was directed to the remastered CD version, a Japanese import at £3.99. This stands with The Last Waltz and Bob Marley & The Wailers: Live At The Lyceum as a contender for best live album of all time. Just a few days before, I’d bought Sam Cooke One Night Stand! Live at The Harlem Square Cub(1963) which Rod Stewart rates as his favourite live album.
In spite of having a pile of Sam Cooke records, and knowing that Otis Redding regarded him as his ultimate musical guide and inspiration, I hadn’t realised that live Sam Cooke sounds way more like later Otis than Sam Cooke’s studio versions. However, then you put on Live in Europe. Otis’s band : Booker T and The MGs plus The Mar-Kays / Memphis Horns. Otis’s band would have blown Sam Cooke’s band off any stage anywhere. Duck Dunn’s bass playing is even better than on the studio stuff, the drums are rock solid and it is the ultimate soul horn section. Above all, the whole band are totally into what they’re doing, caught up in the excitement. It’s the difference between backing (on the Sam Cooke, a band that included King Curtis) and participating wholeheartedly in the excitement (Otis’s band). One of the three best live albums of all time. Wikipedia says it was Paris. I hear English voices in the audience. I know Otis Blue backwards, and he brings something new to every song.
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John DSubject: Otis Redding : Live in Europe
One of Peter's top 5. In my opinion of my favourite live albums of all time.
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Peter VMy last five albums played:
California Stop Over: Johnnie Darrell - Japanese CD, arrived yesterday … the one with the first ever recording of "Willin'"
Otis Redding : Live in Europe (my most played album of recent weeks)
"A Brand New Me" Aretha Franklin & Royal Philharmonic
What In The Natural World - Jake Xerxes Fussell (GB recommended)
"A Love So Beautiful" Roy Orbison & Royal Philharmonic (bought because I liked the Aretha and it was only £6 in the supermarket)
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Subject: 'She was common, flirty, she looked about thirty'
Last five albums I have played.
'The Rolling Stones On Air' -absolute must for any record collection, took me back to sitting through 'The Joe Loss Show' waiting for the featured group to come on. I love British rhythm and blues. The Stones are brilliant.
Dr Feelgood 'Down By The Jetty' - really good band.
Blackie and The Rodeo Kings 'Let's Frolic Again'. Great album. 'Old Hotel' has the brilliant Garth on accordion and Richard Bell on piano. Reeechard. I could listen to this song over and over again.
John Martyn's posthumous album 'Heaven and Earth'. Garth plays a great accordion on 'Stand Amazed'. Unlike anything else I heard him play? Jimmy Weider and Levon helped finish the album also, but Levon is not credited.
Lighthouse Family 'Ocean Drive'. A gift, but I still enjoy pop.
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Subject: Seeing the light?
NWC - I’m just staggered. Not that you support a lying, ignorant, anti-intellectual dummy with a self-confessed history of molesting other people but that you anticipate showing the GB the light!
Entered at Sun Jan 14 12:56:07 CET 2018 from (18.104.22.168)Posted by:
NorthWestCoasterLocation: Greater Copenhagen
Subject: Politics (a subject which is OK for Mr. Hoiberg in Jeff A's posts, apparently).
Jeff A, I am a straight shooter: Donald Trump is the best thing which has happened for the USA after Elvis.
With that said; I wonder why he is so unpopular among some Jews when he is the most positive President to the State of Israel for decades? I don't get it. DONT POST AN ANSWER HERE! Jan will be mad. Just post a link or a furious Jewish clarification to my emailaddress lastname(Danish pastry)spray.se. If you don't have the access to my car-site you might to get the lastname from Jan or ever from equally so politically correct Peter V.
You see, I am contributing in a political (white middle-aged, western, academic, mostly men) site with ten thousands of daily visitors in my own language and I would like to be The Man Who Will Show The Light.
Entered at Sun Jan 14 12:53:05 CET 2018 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
Subject: Catching Up
Some really good posts lately. Thanks.
Welcome Bill F. I've seen two Alabamian musicians, both brilliant - Spooner Oldham and Emmylou Harris. Songwriters from the south. Glad you found the Band. We may even be distantly related.
Bob F - Enjoyed the article on 'This Old Porch'. Great song. Bob was only one of many musicians for me during these years. But, three great albums I value.
Bill M - really like 'Black Sheep' on the album. May be stand out track for me. But that is all I know of Serena Ryder - a really emotional performance, a different voice.
Jeff. This is not a classic time for British politics either.
Peter - enjoyed review of KT Tunstall. Was on telly at Xmas. Really good. Will have to get something of hers.
Entered at Sun Jan 14 12:37:15 CET 2018 from (126.96.36.199)Posted by:
Subject: Paul Jones
Well that's me been at Tiny's football, Tae-Kwan Do and Swimming this weekend. Now free.
Peter, I've been back in the sixties looking at what bands played Scotland. Found Scots of St James, Mogul Thrash and Forever More gigs.
But what was really interesting was when Manfred Mann played a hall in Larbert. They were booed and had pennies thrown at them because the Sound System wouldn't work at first. Paul Jones did cartwheels across the stage at one point until they sorted it out. His eternal youth must be in the genes. But quite an extreme way to dodge the pennies!
Incidentally, I bought 'The Manfreds' album a few years back after your first review. Really pleased they rerecorded the songs - a good album.
Entered at Sun Jan 14 07:26:27 CET 2018 from (188.8.131.52)Posted by:
Web: My link
Subject: And I never met girls who could sing so sweet, Like the angels that live in Houston
Link above is to an Amy Helm performance of Little Feat's 'Roll Um Easy' from Ohio last year. I've never heard her do this in any of the shows I've been to, but she really gets inside of the song, and I'd really love to hear it someday. Wonderful fretless bass playing by the fellow on the bass as well.
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Web: My link
Subject: Atlantic City - Amy Helm
Link above is a recent live performance of Amy Helm with the Cris Jacobs Band doing a nice version of 'Atlantic City'. Bound to put a smile on the face of anyone who saw The Band live in the 1990's.
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Web: My link
Subject: Larkin Poe With Elvis Costello
Here's a clip of Elvis Costello performing 'Blame It On Cain' with Larkin Poe from a few years ago.
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Web: My link
Subject: Forever Young - Larkin Poe
Hey folks, been quite tardy again. Hope everyone is having a good 2018 so far.
Link above is a video that the gals known as Larkin Poe posted on November 12, which was Neil Young's birthday. It's not the Dylan / The Band version of 'Forever Young', but a cover of a song by a group named "Alphaville". Never heard of that group, but it's a lovely performance and touching that they thought of Mr. Young on his birthday. They even threw in a couple of bars of 'Helpless' at the the end.
Always impressed by these young ladies, and appreciate their commitment to the music. If nothing else they've very earnest. And I love their harmonies...simple yet effective.
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Jeff A.Bill F. You're a young whippersnapper.
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Bill F-Jeff A.
I'm in my early 30s, so I guess you could call me a younger guy even if I don't always feel that way these days. And the Warbling Danko definitely sounds like a bird. It's actually from a song I was working on a while back as a tribute to Rick. It never amounted to much, but I still like the image of the bird with the lonely song. I'm playing and singing a lot more now, so maybe I'll revisit that material.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll dig through the archives some, especially if I can search it by topic. I've already noticed how much activity the site had back in late 1999 right after Danko passed. It's pretty surreal to dig through that.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
It's a fascinating story Norm. Yes, most, the great majority, of those Mohawks were from Canada, not all. One reservation they came from, Akwesasne, was in New York. And way back early in the century, some Mohawks had their families living in Brooklyn.
That's serious work, man. I worked my way up to being able to run around on a 12" plank close to 40' up, but after my injuries really started effecting my balance, i lost all my nerve for heights. But even in my prime, i'd say my limit for daredeviling maxed out around 35 -40'. I've no idea how those guys can do that.....
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: The Steel Men
Lisa, you may have meant "North American Indians" because all those Mohawks who build those sky scrapers are Canadian. There are many great stories about the heritage of families who generations of build those buildings.
If you google the Iron Workers Bridge there are some fantastic pictures of the bridge with that beautiful view. Also googling the Mohawk steel workers, there are tons of pictures of them on high and the buildings they have built.
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LisaThanks Norm, that's a different way of looking at it. I remember seeing a program some years ago on PBS about the link between the Native Americans and skyscrapers. As a person who gets edgy and dizzy on a stepladder I can't even begin to imagine that kind of courage.
Hi Bill F - may I recommend the GB archives to you? When I first found this site over five years ago I started reading my way through them. The sheer volume is truly incredible, and in a way it almost mirrors all the ups and downs, ins and outs and huge personalities of the whole development of the internet today. It's quite a trip. Jan's site has been host to a Heinz-like variety of amazing people, some now gone, and just about every aspect of The Band and all the members has been debated many many times. Some terrific writers here too, so I hope you'll have a look.
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Jeff A.Subject: Da Troof
The truth is in Garth.
Anyone can doubt anything else i ascertain all they want. But that statement is beyond doubt.
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RodBill F, reading those Band books is a bit like triangulating cell phone locations. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. Small Town Talk is worth a read as well - though it often paints a more negative picture.
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Darkest Hour
It's that time of the year when all the good movies come out together for Awards. My second in two days … Darkest Hour, yet another about Dunkirk and May 1940, this time featuring Gary Oldman as Churchill.
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
I think I was still half asleep. The name of the bridge is "The Iron Workers Memorial Bridge."
Entered at Sat Jan 13 17:37:23 CET 2018 from (184.108.40.206)Posted by:
Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: White Wolf Pack - from a different perspective.
Thinking of those native fellows, and I've read much and love to look at the pictures of the things they, caused me to google just now.
I found this article some of you may be interested to read. It is called "White Wolf Pack" the Mohawks who built Manhattan. The way the article begins is startling. A crew is setting girders way up on a building. Suddenly they hear a noise like thunder. They look up, and as told by one worker. A plane is coming. It is so low I can see the rivets on the joints, I can read the serial numbers. I thought what is he doing? Then when the plane hit the trade center I knew something must be wrong. But as the second plane came and hit the other building I knew it must be planned.
As many of these men had worked on those building 30 years before and knew them very well, they went down with all haste to help. This account of this disaster is something I hadn't heard and considered. It is astonishing.
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Bill MLocation: Tronto
Bill F: Welcome.
Peter V: Thanks for the extra info on Jimmy Dean. Some of dean's earliest recordings (mid '50s were done for washington-based DC label, backed by DC's houseband, Frank Motley and the Motley Crew, who would soon relocate to Toronto as one of the principal Yonge Street groups. The Debonairs were also a Yonge Street band, part of a flowering calypso scene. Oddly enough, another guy playing calypso on Yonge in the early '60s was Will Millar, who would go on to success with another Toronto group of immigrants, the Irish Rovers.
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Subject: The Bridge
I remember the day it happened. It was frightening..........and then so sad.
Lisa, just the name of the song and then think of the "Steel Men" and what they do. Something melancholy would not do. The song had to sound hard and tough and stand out. That is what Jimmy Dean made of it. It worked, that song made many people feel better.
It was a long time of lobbying to have the name changed from "The Second Narrows" bridge to the "Steel workers Bridge" which is much more fitting. Thru' the years I have listened to first hand accounts of workers who survived it and witnesses. People who couldn't believe what they were seeing.
There are stories and people have tried to discover what it is with those Indian fellows from back east who are "Steel Men". They build "Sky Scrapers" and for some reason in their DNA, they have no fear of heights at all.
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Jeff A.Bill, since you're just reading This Wheel's On Fire I'm inclined to ask if you are a young guy?
A Warbling Danko sounds like a type of bird.
Entered at Sat Jan 13 12:11:30 CET 2018 from (126.96.36.199)Posted by:
Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Steel Men
Welcome to Bill F
Steel Men - I remember the Jimmy Dean version (LINKED) which I'd say is superior, very well. It was the follow up to P.T. 109, and in the UK, the one before that was Big Bad John. That was when CBS (American Columbia) had just opened up on the UK as "the 5th major label" and had their own Radio Luxembourg promo show, on which Jimmy Dean featured heavily. Given their very middle of the road catalogue in 1962, Jimmy Dean stood out. They had to be CBS in much of the world, as EMI's Columbia label already had that name. Eventually, decades later, CBS bought the name from EMI.
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Bill F-Jeff A.
Maybe Funkadelic. I didn't know if I should use a real name or a screen name for the Guest Book. I might post under the name Warbling Danko in the future.
I'm on a major band kick right now since I'm half way through Levon's "This Wheel's on Fire." Unfortunately, they've gotten through the first first three albums at this point and things are looking pretty grim. It always bums me out to read about The Band's decline and dissolution. Their was never really anyone else like them.
I got Levon's and Robbie's books at the same time, so I'll have to read them side by side and watch the sparks fly. I've already read "A Musical History" but it seemed to stay pretty neutral if I remember right.
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RodJohn D, I have been tempted. I have one of their summer hats made from Coffee bean sacks. Real Cool (but not so much on me)
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Jeff A.Bill F. Welcome. Is that F for Fedora, Fender.........Fuzz-Tone?
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Bill FLocation: Alabama
I've been using this site for a long time now for chords and lyrics, but would love to connect more with other people who love The Band and everything they were all about. I tried the chatroom a few times with no success, so it looks like the guestbook is the place to go. I imagine you've exhausted so many Band related topics that it's hard to know what to say (it looks like hats are the thing now?). So why don't I just start with "hello"? We'll see where we can go from there.
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Bill MLisa: I certainly see what you mean, but that's popular music for you. I find the discrepancy between topic and mood in this case much less troubling than in, say, "Run For Your Life" by the Beatles.
Entered at Fri Jan 12 20:58:59 CET 2018 from (126.96.36.199)Posted by:
LisaSubject: Steel Men
What a curious song! No, I never heard it before, although my husband recognized it right away. We didn't move up here till 1960 though, so I missed that event. Doesn't it sound oddly upbeat for a song about a tragedy to you? That sort of dance rhythm - you almost expect a couple "Yee-haws" in there ...
Some years ago that bridge was renamed The Ironworkers' Memorial Bridge in honor of the men who died there, and it is one of the very worst traffic clogs in the Lower Mainland when there's an accident, which there invariably is.
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Bill MWeb: My link
Townes V generally makes me think of Fred E - and the linked "I Like Trains" mentions Texas in the very first line. Mandolin by Willie P Bennett.
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Buckskin Stallion Blues
Link to the great cover of Buckskin Stallion Blues used in "Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri."
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri
My review of "Three Billboard outside Ebbing, Missouri" added. It did well in the Golden Globes, hopefully even better in the Oscars. A major sequence is played to The Night They Drove Old Dixie down, though they play the Joan Baez version not The Band version. Should be a decent payday for Robbie though. I think there is good artistic reason in the context of the film for choosing Joanie's version. Great Townes van Zandt too.
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Bill MWeb: My link
Subject: singing / Caribbean / Serena Ryder / BaRK
Lisa: The other night I attended a talk+ on the Caribbean influence on the Toronto music scene. The speakers mentioned a bunch of old local groups with West Indies roots and asked if they'd missed anyone. So I mentioned Debonairs, and the fact that they're only record, "Steel Men" - about a construction tragedy in the Vancouver area in '58 - was a big local hit in '62. And since then I've been singing it to myself. Do you remember it - see link? (Jimmy Dean covered it - more C&W but still much the same 'mento' feel.)
An alumnus of the Debonairs, Glen Solzano, later fathered singer Serena Ryder, who is likely known to most Canadians here, and maybe some others - perhaps Dunc if he's picked up BaRK's "Kings and Queens" album. Their duet with Serena, "Black Sheep", can also be found on YouTube.
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: Forth Worth Blues
B.Lee, right on, Townes and Guy Clark, two great Texas songwriters. I've always loved Steve Earle's song to Townes, Forth Worth Blues. Link is to his performance of song at Townes tribute show. Nanci Griffith's reaction to the song is so pure and beautiful. Two more great Texas songwriters, Steve Earle and Nanci Griffith.
Entered at Fri Jan 12 19:01:44 CET 2018 from (126.96.36.199)Posted by:
Jeff A.Dunc, the only appropriate places for Twitler are either in the ground or in a internet free padded cell with multiple secured doors. He is an abomination upon the earth.
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Peter vSubject: Embassy
The controversial embassy location is a fast growing area, but was until a few years ago, industrial wasteland. While so much of the interesting stuff in London is now on the Soyuth Bank, the new Embassy is about a mile west of the more interesting bits. Still, I would think it would hasten the spread of interesting bitsalong the south bank.
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That story has not had a big impact over here yet, Jeff, because it has been overshadowed by Trump's decision not to visit Britain to open the new American embassy. Trump is not coming because he said he doesn't like it.
A professor from Birmingham University, an American who has lived in the UK for 30 years, mentioned the news you allude to when questioned about the impact in the US of his decision not to visit the UK. The professor said that his decision not to visit the UK has had little impact in the States because of the story you mention.
Incidentally, I have never heard an American academic speak so negatively about an American president in my life. He talked about Trump being like the loudmouth in the pub. Talked about tantrums etc.
There is one thing quite sad about this for Scots. Normally we would be very pleased that the President's background was Scottish. But he is an embarrassment.
On a lighter note enjoyed stories about hats and weddings.Thanks.
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Jeff A.I imagine you folk saw today's happening in the u.S. Twitler put us closer to bloodshed in the streets. My opinion has always been that is what he wants, and that he expected to lose the election, but to create mayhem after he lost.....
His remarks about Haiti, El Salvador, and shithole countries today- well, , he ls getting us closer to blodshed here.....There's no way he is going to let us get to midterm elections next November without mayhem.....He's gonna push it the whole way....
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Jeff A.Haso, i always kept my pencils in my tool belt,and often left one on my brake. I had em buried in my truck too. (For those of you unfamiliar, a brake is a metal brake, mine were always the 10'6" Tapco Pro models. Today they go for 1800 and up, i think the last one i bought was in 1996, for just under a grand. and i thought that was minor robbery.
Unless i was working alone,I never had enough pencils. I used carpenters pencils in marking to cut and bend sheet metal, siding, headers on windows,..... though i did alot of window jobs alone, maybe 5 % of my work, but usually i took my helper, and at least half the time, had another ace sheet metal mechanic with me. If so, he did most of the metal bending and capping, i installed & we both caulked.. the helper also did a lot of the metal cutting and bending...But, no one but me could ever hold on to the damn pencils. And of course i lost some myself.. I used to keep two or three in my tool belt., by the end of the day, i was usually robbed of em. I ad stashes in my truck and garage, but , they went........
Siding, i went through more pencils...there could be two to four of us, and we all used pencils all day long. Marking , cutting....again, my guys lost & grabbed pencils all day long. And thirty feet , forty feet up in the air, and you drop your pencil. It sucks. The moral is, have way too many pencils, it's never enough.
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Jeff A.Subject: Remind you of someone?
"A man comes home from work late, his wife inquires: 'A lot of traffic?' He replies, 'no cheating, no cheating, absolutely no cheating, everyone agrees, no cheating, even my co-workers have said, no cheating, absolutely no cheating..'"
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John DWeb: My link
Subject: Rod & Kingsmen Hats
Rod, for a mere $237.50 American that hat can be yours.
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Jeff A.Roger, thanks to Haso we can divert to the next subject: Carpenter's Pencils.
A siding crew can never have enough carpenter's pencils. I'll expound when i have more time.
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Check out Hatmosphere by Danny Thompson.
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Peter VTalking of oldie but goldie, or rather "heritage artists, I was appalled to read today that the BBC is engaging in a sweep of male DJs, to be replaced by females, and the most prominent one to go is Paul Jones. Paul Jones has done The Blues Show for years on Radio Two, and no one is more erudite on the subject. More to the point, the live artists on the show, like Van Morrison, are delighted to be accompanied by Paul Jones on harmonica. He is at least being replaced by a musician, Cerys Matthews, ex-Catatonia, but good as she is, she does not have the gravitas or steeping in the blues of Paul Jones. Mind you, she did a stunning version of Baby It's Cold Outside with Tom Jones a few years ago. Paul Jones is 75 (and looks about 50) so maybe he's happy to call it a day, but there's a whole generation of blues fans devoted to that show because of Paul Jones.
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: The Full Monty
I'd say the best-known version of "You can Leave Your Hat On" is the Tom Jones cover version used in The Full Monty film, and it's a song he always does live. Link is a more recent live version on "The Voice."
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Remember guys, from the 50's Gene Vincent and the "Blue Caps". They wore baby blue, what we called skimmers. When they sang "Bee Bop-a-lula" in Jane Mansfield's movie, "The girl can't help it". At a certain part of the song they would throw their heads back tossing off their caps.
There is a song, I can't remember who did it. "I'm not a real cowboy, I just found this hat."
Never could wear hats, my hair is so thick I'm insulated. Now it is just starting to thin to where it's reasonable. I wear a touke sometimes in winter. Got to be real cold tho'!
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Bill MLocation: Tronna
Haso: "You Can Leave Your Hat On" was written and first recorded by Randy Newman, I believe, though BB Bland may well have recorded a version. Joe Cocker did, and Robbie Lane and the Disciples (who took over for our guys on the Hawkins bandstand, have been playing it live since the '80s, if not before.
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RogerLocation: Hatsville, Barbour Co.
Subject: Which site have I landed on?
I haven't looked in for a couple of days and when I do look in I find we've turned into hats and fashion central.
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RodI loved Robbie's hat in the "Don't Do It" segment from TLW. Hard to get these days though there is a local hat maker here who makes one - called a Kingsman I think. Reasonably expensive. Rick seemed to be the hat guy in The Band. I'm not a trend setter but I'd wear one if they came back into fashion.
Peter, you're admission about the scrooge hat was probably too much information. :-)
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hasoLocation: Seacoast NH
I'd always noted how the OQ seemed pretty fond of hats. Plus isn't there some story that Roger Waters told at Love for Levon about a ballcap that L gave him?
Isn't there a Bobby Blue Bland song about "you can leave your hat on". Always thought it one very sexy blues tune. Of course, there's probably more to the story.
Peter, I'm in your league, the very follically-challenged; so, have been wearing hats for years. Plus, being a carpenter, they help hold the pencil up there, way better than just your ear. Here in the States, I find a good hoodie even more critical; even usu sleep w/ one pulled up over my head at night. A pullover though, not a zip-up.
Yeah, spots on the head or not, just once getting sunburned up on top... the aftermath (ouch) cured me of ever being out in the sun w/out covering. Then again, there's the saying about such as Peter (& moi): "grass doesn't grow where it's active".
Now, wellies, that's another topic. In Central America, almost all the campesinos y cabballeros wear green wellies (w/ spurs slid down over them if they are on horseback). Good jungle and coffee-harvesting wear. Although you do see spurs over sandals on riders as well.
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Peter VYou used to be able to get imitation Barbour jackets. I had one years ago. Then they became part of the "Young Fogie" country gent look along with green wellies. I once saw a couple in Barbours and green wellies spraying aerosol mud on their Land Rover before posing through Chelsea. Bucolic LAND Rover obviously, not Range Rover.
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Jeff A.Barbour coats. Talk about a coat of wax....
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Jeff A.You couldn't get me in a hat when i was a kid or teen. I wouldn't dream of wearing one till i started working out doors all day all year long, i was already twenty five.Even then, i'd only wear one in winter, cold weather, or the rain , and only began wearing one occasionally in the summer about ten years ago. Now it's constant, cause the risk is profound for me.
This past June or July i attended my cousin's daughter's wedding. She is becoming a reform rabbi, and married a guy who grew up in but left Chabad. which is a wing of Chasidism. Since his family is Lubavitch, Chasidic, there was lot of negotiation to this wedding, and it was hybrid of sorts. With the main reception room being secular, and the Chasidim having two rooms of their own, one for men, one for women... The ceremonies ahead were very very Chasidic.
About a week before i had made my first visit to a dermatologist, regarding spots on my head. He froze off a lot of spots and asa result i had brown welts on my head. so, a few days before the wedding i went to a Judaica store and asked for the largest black yarmulke they had. It's black velvet, and i think a six inch kippah (pronounced keepah). In any event, as large and well constructed as it is, it's almost as effective as a insulated ski cap.
Miracle of miracles, that kippah also made me pass for pious. At that wedding it also made the groom's father and another very Chasidic man both ask if i was a rebbe. My friend's crowd was far more astute, not that easily fooled.
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Jeff A.Pete, other than possibly being kinda beat up, the hats Levon and Robbie are wearing that photo you linked are of the general type the Orthodox were wearing at the wedding. The quality they had was amazing. These were really sharp, really well made hats. I've seen other pictures where Band members were wearing hats of the general ilk.
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John DWeb: My link
Subject: Barbour Prices. Wow!
Just saw the price list on Amazon. Boy they better be a good coat!
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John DSubject: Peter
Should have gone to "Sunday Morning" show first. The company is called Barbour. Wondering if they sell them in Canada. I'll look.
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John DSubject: British Clothing
Peter, they did a special on a British clothing company that makes great coats for inclement weather on TV Sunday morning. Stars with the letter "B." People love them so much they send them back to the company from time to time for restitching. People just don't want to get rid of them. Apparently they are waxed on the surface. Wish I could remember.
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Not up to date on the band you mentioned or informed about any current music in that genre. I’m kinda stuck in all the other music I enjoy and the occasional dip into Lubavitcher tunes is where I land these days.But,with NO HAT!
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: If you want to get ahead, get a hat
My first proper hat was dull green, bought in 1969, and based on the one Levon is wearing in the linked photo. Such hats were rare in Norwich at the time, unless you were an elderly farmer. People recognised it as a Band style hat and thought of the Band as wearing hats because of the photo.
As our British friends know, we had to wear caps at school. It was a serious offence to be seen out in school uniform, which in our case was a grey suit and school tie, without a cap. Of course by the time you were 14 or 15, a colourful school cap was deeply embarrassing, and also caused ribald comments when we grammar school (selective state school) boys cycled past the rougher secondary modern school lads on the way home. When we were 16, and bought our Vespa and Lambretta scooters we were hauled before the headmaster for the offence of wearing crash helmets instead of school caps … five or six of us. One lad's dad was a police inspector and went to the school in fury at the headmaster forbidding us effectively to wear crash helmets. Of course he did not apologise, though our detentions were cancelled. He simply made it an offence not to wear a crash helmet (wisely). Then we got detentions because we had found it amusing to tape our school caps on top of the crash helmets. Not an offence on any statute book, so to speak, but they could make up rules and offences as they chose in those days.
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Jeff A.Web: My link
It's stronger than recognition.
Hal Blaine getting a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award.
Some others too, Emmylou, Tina T...........
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Jeff A.Bill, isn't RR's own publishing under the name Medicine Hat?
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Bill MSubject: no cat in hat
Offhand, I can't think of a Band song with a hat in it, unless you count capless (and batless) Ferdinand. Even then I think 'capless' meant 'naked' (and 'batless' 'flaccid').
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Jeff A.Subject: Just a slight bissell more bass, bubbela. And perhaps a half a db up on the piano. :-)
Jed, I checked with my friend, who is recuperating from the night's festivities. It was the Aaron Teitelbaum Orchestra with Schlomi Gaskall fronting.
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Jeff A.Pete, the two hat makers i know in Brooklyn are Goorin Brothers in Park Slope and Williamsburg, and Bencraft in Sunset Park. I used to get great hats in Kenco, both when they were in Woodstock, and in the newer location in Hurley. Kenco was my favorite place to buy hats. They often had the best winter wool hats, iconic old brands, top qaulity while it was still available, Yukon warm winter hats. And great hats for any season, every type, berets, safari, you name it..... All of those hats met various known and unknown dire fates, in any event i miss em. But like you i stay hatted most of the time out of doors, warmth and uv protection, i got two flat hats and a bunch of ski caps... but i need me one of the Orthodox black hats, there's wide brim with various height & shaped chimney stacks on em, and there's also gangster style.
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Peter VJeff may know … I recall a very good hat shop in Smith Street in Brooklyn. Bought a couple there. Also Bridport in Dorset has THREE hat shops in the High Street and has a "Hat weekend" once a year.
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Peter VSubject: Van the Hat
Van the Man is never seen without a hat. Nor am I. Shaven head … hat needed in winter for cold. Hat needed in summer for sun. I even have a Scrooge nightcap. There may be the odd hatless October day or April day.
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John DLocation: Toronto, Canada
Web: My link
Subject: Meyer The Hatter New Orleans
When I really want a hat; it's off to Meyer The Hatter in New Orleans. The greatest assortment of hats that any man would want. Ask Dr. John. That's where the Dr. buys his hats. I now only buy them; when I am in New Orleans.
I ordered one once; from Toronto and the hat price was fine. However the U.S. Postal service has become horrible. They wanted as much to send a light hat to Toronto as it was costing me to actually buy the Hat. The same for First Edition books that I send for in Jackson Mississippi. The Postal Service there is not cost effective. Oh, did I order the hat anyway? Yes!!! I really wanted that hat.
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b.leeLocation: DE, USA
Subject: Hats and such
Hats. Yes, at times a necessary evil, though they do pile up. Lots of baseball style caps, some of them even for baseball teams...or team (Phillies). Always worn outside when gardening. There is a ridiculous hat with neck cover for same, sadly so worn it is seldom...worn. Straw wide brim hats in summer for outdoor occasions. One basal cell removed, more on the way we suppose. Wide brim hats look cool, but can't be worn while driving. Damn you, headrests! Lyle Lovett has a song about hats. You can have his girl, but "Don't Touch My Hat"
Which brings us back to the Texas songwriters, thread originated by dunc I think, I would recommend the dean (IMHO) of Texas songwriters Guy Clark. There is a two-disk set 'Craftsman' which neatly summarizes his early to mid periods. Also a two-fer of his first two albums 'Old No. 1' & 'Texas Cooking' is/was available. Of his later work I would recommend 'Workbench Songs'. Mr. Clark was not only a wise and prolific writer, but a guitar technician and repairman who wrote many of his songs AT the workbench in his basement. I believe there is a scene in the Townes Van Zant biopic 'Be Here To Love Me' in which Mr. Clark is interviewed while deconstructing and rebuilding a guitar neck. Oh, and Townes is another avenue, more like a mine shaft, you will want to fall into.
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Never been a hat guy myself.Those kind.Baseball hats on occasion and wool hats in season,but generally I look dumb in hats.Or dumber.
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Jeff A.And the hats! Mind you, i walk amongst Orthodox & Chasidim daily, & have been to one Chasidic wedding. But my friend & his shul mates had the best hats I've seen yet. When i have a few hundred to burn, I'm gonna have him take me wherever he gets his hats.There's a few Yidlach hat shops a couple miles from me, but i wanna go wherever he got his. Hats like these, you never saw such hats.
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Jeff A.Btw Jed, they had the sound down pat. I was in shock. I actually was able to converse with people on the opposite side of the table. PA systems were really good, levels ,mix, vocal quality. Better than most clubs these days.
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Jeff A.Jed, you guessed the venue. A friend said the band was named the Eric Teitelbaum Orchestra, but i wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg or not. I'll ask the groom's father & get back to you. Honestly, I'm surprised I didn't get it myself....
Off to the glaucoma doc on an hour of sleep. Unless I cawfee up well, think I may return another day for the field of vision test.Or they may just tape my eyelids up to get me through it.
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JedSubject: Jeff-orthodox weddings
Been to many orthodox Jewish weddings.Love them.But the music-generally terrible,too loud,and lousy PA systems.Do you recall the name of the band? As an aside,in the 60’s and 70’s there were some great bands and some excellent musicians like Yehuda Issacs(drums),David Nulman(keys,guitar),the late great Yossie Piamenta(lead guitar),and Mickey Lane(bass).These days the bands are awful.BTW was the wedding at Terrace on the Park?
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Jeff A.I just returned from the wedding one of my oldest friend's son & new bride. My friend was a wild man in high school, in college, & after, then.... he & his wife became very orthodox before they got married, about thirty years ago. If i recallit started with kabala classes... In any event, I've been to a couple of NYC high society weddings. This Orthodox Jewish wedding in Queens was more tasteful and more enjoyable than any wedding I've been to yet. The Orchestra was amazing. The string led orchestra pefrormed for about an hour & a half before the reception and through the ceremony... When the orchestra came on for the reception we were eating our soup. I gottsa tell ya,all of a sudden it sounded like we were in Hell's Kitchen and a wild Irish fiddle led band with a serious drummer and bassist had invaded. This was no klezmer fiddle up front. Killer band, i didn't count, but I'd say 14 or 15 pieces....
About thirty minutes later I was thinking for a way to describe the band at the table , & surprised a few people by declaring: The only way to describe this band is "Heavy Yid."
Dunc, I saw John Martyn open for some one once. It might have been in the 70s, maybe the 80sa. but most likely the 70s. I say that cause i have far better recollection of shows i saw in the 80s than in the 70s. There may even have been more tham two acts on the bill. If he opened for someone at brooklyn College, it woulda been a show i saw between 72 & 75, when ii went to high school next door. If it was at The Bottom Line, it woulda been pre Aug 1981, or after Jan 1985. I remeber being very imprEssed by his playing and his sounds, and his singing.
yes Martyn was great, & certainly put that echoplex to use..
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Subject: New York, Jeff
Jeff, I have three tracks of John Martyn recorded at Kennys Castaways, New York in 1977, including the echoplex, 'Outside In'.
And 'Live at the Bottom Line' New York, 1983.
Never made New York, Jeff.
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Rod, the person credited in the UK with developing the use of the echoplex is John Martyn.
The first time I saw it done it was amazing, I couldn't believe it. All that brilliant sound coming out of an 'electrified acoustic guitar' with only one person on stage.
If you go to YouTube and google 'Inside Out' or 'Outside In' (especially this version), you'll get the idea.
There is a good example of playing electric guitar unusually on 'One World' with David Gilmour on YouTube too.
Brilliant musician, cult status and his biography is aptly named 'Some People Are Crazy'.
Links with the Band and I love his two duets with Levon on 'No Little Boy'.
For me, 'Solid Air' would be in my top ten albums of all time.
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Ian WSubject: Planes again - for NWC [apologies to the rest of you]
Thanks for your comment, NWC. I've only flown once in a DC-3(Dakota)and that was limited to a 'joy ride' over Edinburgh but it was a 'bucket list' notion on my part and I'm really glad I did it. My first flight was across the English Channel in a Vickers Viking (more or less the British equivalent to a Dakota. I don't recall either being particularly noisy but maybe that was just the circumstances (first flight, in one case, and a much-desired flight in the other). My second flight, the return journey was in a Bristol Wayfarer, a freight plane converted for passenger use, and it till had fixed undercarriage, unusual for a largish transport plane even then. You could see the wheels going round in the wind as you flew along.
I have never flown in an Avro York (a post-war British transport plane based on the Lancaster bomber, with a similar wing and those four Merlin engines) but my memory of it is its noise - but it was noisy, not in its decibel level as much as the way the sound it made penetrated the atmosphere. In my youth, I lived near Heathrow Airport and, really late on clear and really still nights, you could hear an Avro York coming in to land while it was still way, way out. I think it was a mail service or the like. Some nights, I got out of bed just to look and, though you could hear it distinctly, its lights seemed to be far away. Not an attractive-looking plane, its approach, as it came closer and closer and got lower and lower, seemed more lumbering than graceful - but it's thw sound of it that I really remember. [NOTE: my bedroom was on the 'right' side of the house, which lay parallel to the line of approach, about 750 metres south of it, and about 3000 metres from touchdown]
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jhWeb: My link
Subject: Reverb systems
As a very young man/party animal, me and some «friends» once ended up sleeping it off on the floor of an old recording studio in Sweden. I crashed next to this old-style massive, ultra-sensitive 500-pound plate-reverb system (probably a German EMT like the one linked above, they were quite common), that made weird noises all through the night. And woke us all up in the morning when someone crashed into it while trying to find a bathroom.
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Another good version of Willin' is by a guy named Chris Jones, who has since passed on. Worth a look. He actually did it twice, once by himself (guitar and vocal) and once with a harmonica player named Steve Baker. I'll leave off posting a link, but the second one is better, not because there's anything lacking in the first, but Baker's harp solo and backing vocal carry it home.
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Jeff A.Rod, an echoplex is a delay, a reverb effect. They started as tape delays, made with vacuum tubes and tapes in the contraptions..
There's plenty on their history
and use on reverb dot com, and there's you tubes that get into echoplexs & fulltones too
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jhWeb: My link
Rick and Terry Danko, and Levon Helm, school photos.
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RodBeen away for a few days catching a Bryan Adams concert. A seriously good act. What is a echoplex Jeff?
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Jeff A.But in the article Berger does seem to confuse or entangle vocal sounds with vocal performances.Minimally he ignores the importance of gettign a great recording... You do have to get that great performance to be able to record it...but getting a great performance captured in a poor or mediocre recording is not going to do that great performance justice. And Ramone was a master of sound....So, you need the great vocal performance and the great vocal sound recording, to have a great vocal production...
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: You guys should enjoy this link.
I generally agree...yet it ain't necessarily so simple. But in the case of a production for a particular artist at a particular moment, maybe it is..
(In the case of vocalists interpreting songs they haven't written) Connection to the song is also ultra important. though there really is no order, that may not be possible till the other conditions Berger writes about are met, but it is super important. And it's often a beautiful thing to see happen.... Some vocalists come prepared, some don't. Sometimes the prep doesn't mean anything anyway.
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Jeff A.Of course, that comment was in response to Bob's most recent post.
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Jeff A.New records and live shows were a big part of what we looked forward to back in the 70s. And in the 80s, 90s, new recordings to a much less frequent degree, but live shows, really more. As many shows as I went to in the 70s, it pales in comparison to how many in the 80s, 90s, and though less than in the two just noted decades, even in the 2000s. The drop off for me really was in this decade. there's just less i want to catch, and i'm also not willing to drive three hours for a great show. It used to be like going around the corner, grab friends and go, but not no more.
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JQSubject: Hostiles review
PV - Thanks for that - do you do criticism professionally? It was a tome for me but very well penned, presented and informative.
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Bill MJohn D has nailed it, folks. Even if you're not particular to the song, you can hold your hands over the spinning vinyl and make use of the warmth caused by it rubbing against the stylus. This is a benefit you can't get from a CD, much less a digital download.
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Peter VWeb: My link
Subject: Hostiles reviewed
My review is linked of "Hostiles" which opened today in the UK. A very good attempt at that grail: the revival of the Classic Western.
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Bob FSubject: Mr. January
How great was Bob Dylan's mid 70's January Releases!
1974 - Planet Waves
1975 - Blood On The Tracks
1976 - Desire
I can remember everyone of those release dates. Where we purchased the record and the level of excitement and wonderment. Best of times.
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NorthWestCoasterLocation: Greater Copenhagen
Thanks Ian W for commenting my post on Bombardier aircraft (January 1st). You didn't enjoy your flight because of the noice as much as I did. Let me explain: Bombardier reminds me of an ancient Douglas DC-3 (known even as Dakota). The noice, for sure, limited space, bumpy ride and slow landing/takeoff. European companies like Finnish company Aero used DC-3 planes which had taken part in WW2, especially in Normandie. As a very young boy I had the chance to sit on the pilot's knee and "fly" this iconic aircraft. So, to be inside a turbo-prop is like to listen to my first LP again.
Band connection: "... as bumpy that I almost cried..."
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John DWeb: My link
Wishing everyone in 2018 that Life will be indeed....A Carnival.
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JOHN DSubject: BILL M
Bill, time to play Bruce Cockburn's "Coldest Night Of The Year"; over and over again.
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: West Texas Highway
Dunc, I love West Texas Highway from Step Inside This House. Great story about a rich guy picking up an old rodeo bum hitchhiking and by the time the ride is over is envying the hitchhiker a bit.
I love Neil forever but I feel sad when I hear his brand new music. Something isn't right.
We finally got around to watching an Al Edge recommendation, Peaky Blinders. Really really good especially early seasons(Thanks Al!). Never got into Nick Cave until I heard his songs in this show. Now I'm ordering a bunch of his records. It never ends! Have you seen this show?
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Subject: Forgot, Bob
Really enjoying Neil's 'Hitchhiker'. Would have missed it, if you hadn't flagged it up. I don't keep up. We have similar thoughts on Neil.
The version of 'Powderfinger' is worth the price of the album alone. Many thanks.
Rolling Stones at BBC is brilliant, Peter. Thanks.
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Subject: Thanks, Bob F
Thanks, Bob F. I play that song too.
I always thought about the Dundonian, who left my home town and ended up in the middle of nowhere and called the place Dundee.
In 1896, the population was 199 - two livestock dealers, a clothier, a general store, a seller of notions, and a Mr Biffle, who sold organs. In 1909 a bank was opened by Alex Albright, who became the owner of the biggest Karakul sheep ranch in the world.
So the guy in Townes's song was probably a sheep man, not a cowboy. I wanted him to be a cowboy, Bob.
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Peter VSubject: Washington DC
It could certainly make a good Oxford American CD. As well as Marvin Gaye, and Billy Stewart, you have Duke Ellington, John Fahey, The Country Gentlemen, Eva Cassidy, Chuck Brown. That's enough famous ones on which to build the usual eclectic and surprising Oxford mix.
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Jeff A.Subject: Ivory or Ivery
Yes. It was his birth name JQ. There's a Brooklyn born and still living here singer named Ivery Bell. He has fronted in versions ( not original bands) of the Delfonics & Blue Magic, and worked in the O Jays, Stylistics, on and on...These days he';s singing a lot of gospel. He's got a great voice but he's really up there in that Frankie Valle range.
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JQSubject: Ivory Joe Hunter
His “Cold Gray Light Of Dawn” is a favorite one I first heard as a Nick Lowe cover version. I heard that take awhile back on a TV show. No idea which one. I recall reading that Ivory was his real name and not a piano player’s moniker. Lots of good stuff -
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Jeff A.YOu all know the song Since I met you Baby-- One of the great texas songwriters was Ivory Joe Hunter. Known in blues and r& b, he also may have been the first or one of the first black singers or songwriters with country hits. Was a performer at the Opry as well
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Jeff A.D.C. had a real solid local funk scene (Virginia had one too). More relative to that in the future. Not funk, but Larry Burnett of Firefall is a D.C. native. r
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Bill MPeter V: Washington,whether technically north or south, spawned Marvin Gaye and Billy Stewart. And no doubt many more.
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Bob FWeb: My link
JQ, I do. Check out this great article on how they came to write this song.
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JQSubject: This Old Porch
Bob - Through the years I ’ve taken some poetic license and called this great song the story of Texas. You think it is too?
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: This Old Porch
Link to one of the all time great Texas songs. This Old Porch, written by Lyle Lovett and Robert Earl Keen. From Lyle's nearly perfect first record. I've listened to this on continuous repeats thru the years.
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Peter VI would guess they'd count West Virginia and Oklahoma, and do the Carolinas as two years. Plus Virginia. I hope so. What about DC? The old question, is Washington a Southern city? Have they done Florida? I must have missed that one,
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JQSubject: Oxford Southern music- what's left?
Peter - I believe, not certain, that Virginia and the Carolinas are all that's left. I don't know if they'll consider West Virginia and Oklahoma as Southern states for their purposes. Ae they Southern? Dead red if that counts.
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Peter VYou could spend many interesting hours comparing states. Tennessee with its two very different centres definitely punches well above its population size, as do Mississippi and Louisiana. You would expect New York, California and Illinois to be huge contenders on sheer size of population.
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Peter VSubject: Raggy Levy
JQ: Playing it now. At the time (2016) he was one of the many artists I didn't know on the Georgia disc. I'd forgotten the track. A great compilation … James Brown, Larry Jon Wilson, Sharon Jones, Allmans, Otis Redding, Gram Parsons and … yes … Henry Mancini. That's how eclectic they are.
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Bob FSubject: Lyle Lovett
Dunc, great post. I love Step Inside This House and almost everything else Lyle has done. He's also a great live performer with a great band.
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PV - The first song I heard by Jake Fussell was on an Oxford disc; he’s from Georgia so likely that one, a few years back. It was Raggy Levi from his first LP, very catchy and there's a number of live versions on YouTube. I thought he was ancient when I first heard it.
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Jeff A.An interesting thought brought about by this current conversation, that also ties to the discussion around JQs original mention of a week ago about soul music...On the subject of music(s) and influences on it (them)....... Everything in a writers or artist's life, is what ends up in the music. Some things will be the strongest, and it will vary from writer to writer. The various origins a writer has MAY be the the strongest,and birth/raising can be very strong in there, but where a writer goes, physically, geographically & musically , sure is gonna come into play too. Music itself knows no bounds, and it;s all over, and the mix is quite something. But geography, timing, exposures to WHOMS too, all that gets in there.
Dave Alvin for example. There's no separating Alvin from California....Yet his exposures in Downey and surrounding California were to multiple kinds of music, and even locally for him, witnessing and therefore studying at the feet of the great old blues artists. He had powerful exposure to the blues, right there at home as a kid. But also, country, rock.. ...Yet...California lives in Alvin;s writings and who he is.......
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Jeff A.Just for the record, though associated with Texas, Ray Benson is a Phillydelphia Yid. He moved Asleep AT The Wheel to Texas in the 70s.
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Jeff A.Pete, Bill. I think you guys might have lost sight of Bob's point. Bob's statement was about the state that songwriters came from: "Amazing how many great songwriters come out of Texas. Probably more then any other state."
In any event, there is an exchange of information.
I dunno if Bob realizes he may be encouraging Texas to cecede, build a wall around the state.
Just an aside. In the storm restoration business, the biggest, most, and worst lowlife & criminal contractors came from two places: the state of Texas, and the general Chicago area,
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Bill MPeter V: Detroit minus Motown still leaves Fascination and Check-Mate, both of which released 45s by Paul London and the Capers / Kapers - both with Garth Hudson.
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Peter VTennessee ran to a 2 CD set from Oxford American … I mean, it does have Memphis AND Nashville to contrast. There have been a few localized sets, but I'd say New Orleans generated the most "One city" sets on my shelves, I guess there's a coherent feel. Charlie Gillett's "Sounds of The City" series ran to five fine double CD sets … New York, New Orleans, Chicago, Los Angeles, Memphis. All worth having. Then I guess the huge series of Motown box sets does Detroit forwards,backwards and sideways … but I do have a Detroit compilation somewhere with no Motown tracks.
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Jeff A.Pete. Obviously, there's a wealth of talent in every state. I really thought Bob's statement was either just off hand, or he mighta been looking to get a conversation going. Cause Bob gotta know, the Five Boroughs birthed the mother lode.
Actually, it's a futile & pointless pursuit to start counting heads...& as sated, enormous talent is everywhere ...... my first thought reading the statement was Bob was just pulling our collective string :-)
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Peter VSubject: State by state
This year Oxford American did Kentucky, ranging from 1927 to 2017. I’ve missed some (you can’t buy it in the UK), but I have Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia. It’s an unmissable annual treat.
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Jeff A.Pete, i was thinking along your lines. Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, and likely every other southern state, you could spend years. Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, probably Kentucky, Georgia, Alabama too, you could spend years on the songwriters.... Same for New york, Michigan, Massachusets, California, probably Illinois, Ohio... most sates is what I'm thinking... Arizona, New Mexico, Idaho, Alaska, Montana, an The Dakotas might be thinnish,,, but start thinking bout Oklahoma and there's a treasure chest full, Woody Guthrie and JJ Cale, Leon Russell just for starters....
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Subject: Texas songs
I play Lyle Lovett and really like 'Step Inside This House', which took me into Townes Van Zandt and I bought a two CD set.
I think his songs are well crafted and thoughtful. I became intrigued by 'Snake Mountain Blues', where the cowboy's yellow headed wayward girl goes down to Dundee 'And Have Her A Time'. It's in the classic song writing genre of who's going to notice me when I'm dead, but where it is different is the pace of the song and also good harmonica playing and the guitar playing around the melody is brilliant. I always stopped what I was doing and listened to the song when it came on.
The fact that she went down to Dundee always intrigued me for obvious reasons.
So having some time in retirement (in between active babysitting), I was googling Texas maps. Dundee is now a very small place in Texas, but I know why she went down to Dundee. There was a hotel in Dundee related to the building of the railway. That's why she chose to visit Dundee with 'Mr Ten Dollar Man' - because of the presence of the hotel and what it had to offer.
I wondered if 'Mr Ten Dollar Man' is a Texan phrase to signify a big shot or was just thought up by Townes Van Zandt.
But be warned, I was once playing the CD when my daughter came in. 'That's really cheery music,' she said.
But I have also liked Western Swing for a long time. I'm a new convert to Asleep At The Wheel. They swing. The brilliant 'Roly Poly' is playing just now with lines such as Roly Poly, Eating Corn and Tatoes'. Great playing and singing.
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Peter VSubject: T for Texas
I treasure the Oxford American annual covermount discs with the music issue. They take a (Southern) state each year now. They're very eclectic discs. The concept works. Well, it does with the South. You might have a problem with some states, but all the Southern ones have more than enough stuff.
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Hi Bob - You are so right about how much great music and great poetry set to music, has come from there. Recently I did a 2 hour show where I played only Texas music and left out a mountain of great stuff - my bad. I believe one could do a 2-hour weekly show with great, hand-picked, Texas music only and have 0 repeats, if that was the format. And the stories about the Texas artists would give any programmer loads of interesting stories to talk about.
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Bill MRockin C: Interesting timing, as I was just thinking of you. I was stuck on hold, killing time by reading some magazine articles on artificial intelligence. One on autonomous cars said that eventually driver's licences will be as scarce as "doctorates in Latin or tugboat captaincies." I had no idea you knew Latin!
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Rockin ChairLocation: Pacific Northwest
Have you ever looked to see how many people have covered that gawd damn song. Many terribly. The best in my mind was Lowell George with "Little Feat".
In 76' 77' you cold walk in just about any bar in Vancouver and hear that song. The best around was a group I first met at the old American Hotel down on Main Street...pun intended. They were called "6 Cylinder" a few years later Lorne Burns the drummer played in my band, as did Danny Smith the lead guitar.
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Bill MSpeaking of MoI and the original LF, was Don Preston among the Leon Russell crowd that Levon gigged with in LA in '66 post Dylan?
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Bob FSubject: James McMurtry
JQ, this country could use a lot more radio shows playing McMurtry. He's always been a favorite of mine. Amazing how many great songwriters come out of Texas. Probably more then any other state.
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Bill MWeb: My link
Thanks for the education re "Willin'" guys. I've listened to five versions (3 Little Feat, 1 Seatrain, 1 Byrds) and can't decide between Seatrain and Sailin' Shoes. Seatrain wins on spirit, Sailin' Shoes on, oh, honesty. Interesting how the first LF version still has the scent of MoI in the vocal.
The links to none of the above, but to something I can't hear enough: "Biscuit's Boogie", with Richard Bell (soon of Full Tilt) on piano, Richard Newell on vocals and harp (soon to play on Electric Flag's reunion album), and Larry Atamanuik (soon to join Seatrain) on drums. Plus the great Doug Riley on organ, Rheal Lanthier and John Gibbard on guitars, and Roly Greenway on bass.
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Bill MPeter V: I would have placed "Me and Bobby McGee" in the #3 spot. That said, I can't recall witnessing anyone performing "Proud Mary" or "Bobby McGee" - and certainly not "Willin'" - and only a few times have I seen a group attempt "The Weight" - and almost all of those would have been a) the Band themselves, b) Levon with the Cates, or c) a Band, Levon or TLW tribute. I have, however, listened to veteran bar musicians complaining about having had to play "Mary" and "Bobby" all the time back in the day (i.e., the early '70s, before I started doing the rounds myself). But it was "Knock On Wood" that guys seemed to be the most sick of playing.
In my experience, "Knock On Wood" still gets played often (too often, IMO), and if a single Band song is on somebody's setlist, it's most likely going to be "The Shape I'm In".
Does anyone else hear CCR's "Lodi" as a sequel to "The Weight"? Or that "Willin'" has something to do with "Up On Cripple Creek"?
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Peter VSubject: MoI
I had a good Google. Others have wondered the same … did the Mothers ever play "Willin'". Almost certainly not by the comments.
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Peter VSubject: Jake Xerxes Fussell
Thanks for the suggestion. I've been playing it today. Excellent. I don't hear The Band at all though. A bit of Ry Cooder though, but in a way it reminds me more of late 60s British artists like Bert Jansch and John Renbourn.
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Gregg Allmän covered it on his final album,Southern Blood.
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Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
Thanks for the history lesson. I had no idea that it dated back to the MOI.
I wonder if a live version of that exists or if FZ just refused to play it at all.
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Peter VI'm Willing' ranks with The Weight and Proud Mary as songs every self-respecting bar band should know. I'd say they're the top three for me. The "Sailin' Shoes" version is my favourite too, but it took me a few years to get it familiar enough to surplant the Seatrain. Of course it is so often the first one you hear and it seems that was Seatrain.
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Peter VSubject: Warped by the rain
Joe got me researching.
The first Little Feat album was released January 1971, recorded August-September 1970. That had their first version of Willin’ which has Ry Cooder guesting on guitar as Lowell George had injured his hand. The classic version, also the one I think is best, is from Sailin’ Shoes, released in May 1972.
The first Seatrain album is two words “Sea Train” and 1969. The second is listed as 1970 everywhere. According to Discogs it was “Canada 1970”, “US unknown” and “UK 1971”. The latter matches my memory. I definitely knew Mrs V when I bought it, and we met in May 1971. Is the US date correct? Billboard reviewed it in January 1971.
Whatever, they seem to have been at least equal first if not first. The song was known from Lowell George’s time in the Mothers of Invention apparently, November 1968 to May 1969, as Lowell later claimed Zappa fired him because the song was about dope and it was unsuitable for the Mothers (what with having a beginning, middle and end, perhaps!)
Ah, a bit more from Wiki:
Lowell George’s signature piece was first released on lesser known country great Johnny Darrell’s 1970 album California Stop Over. Darrell’s version is a crisp honky-tonk and may reflect George’s initial vision for the piece. The original Little Feat recording of “Willin’” features similar up-tempo Lowell George vocals over a sparse but high-spirited Ry Cooder slide guitar. Cooder was filling in on slide due to a hand injury George had sustained on the propeller of a model airplane. Little Feat re-recorded the more well known road-weary version of the song for their 1972 release.
So yes, the Seatrain Willin’ does re-date the Little Feat release
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Jeff A.Web: My link
Subject: Another lawsuit against Spotify, 1.6 billion
There's a pile of em. What feels like 4 months ago or so, i got notification of one that might or might not mean something to me.. But, it will be another month or two til they're even set up for me to check if i was infringed up on or not. i check occasionally, and it;s always in the future...School for Fools i didn't license for digital streaming till the Johnnie record, when i licensed em both for streaming . But,apparently there's also the question of whether the licenses granted were adequate... the lawyers will be duking this out for a while, and apparently the idea is to get proper compensation.... I think it;s quite some time now, maybe 5 or 6 years, but there was a settlement on a class action lawsuit against XM Sirius, that redirected some funds my way. The funny thing is, the most royalties i had ever received were from Sirius and XM airplay. ..
Right now i'm leaning towards not licensing the next2 projects for streaming. I'll have to find out if it's possible to permit iTunes downloads but prevent iTunes streaming, iTunes match, any Apple stuff. Apparently Bandcamp has the highest quality downloads available, and no streaming.
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Jeff A.Bill, it's possible, but keep in mind, musicians only get to shows or to hang when they ain't working..... Gigs, recording sessions, always come first.
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Bill MIt would make perfect sense for Andy Kulberg to have been the 'boss', as he was the only holdover from the original group (i.e., Blues Project) once Roy Blumenfeld left.
My guess is that Kulberg attended the Mad Dogs and Englishmen tour date in NYC, as did Band members - maybe to see Joe Cocker, maybe to see their old bandmate Sandy Konikoff drumming for Cocker, maybe to see Leon Russell and the other Oklahomans that Levon had played with years earlier in LA, or maybe to see the opening act, Ronnie Hawkins And Many Others (later known as Crowbar). Larry Atamanuik was Ronnie's drummer at the time, and wouldn't have failed to impress a bassist.
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Jeff A.Rod, that occurrence was in between Rick's death and Kulberg's in 02. I was living in St Louis, so I'm pretty sure it was sometime between early January and early May, 2001, when i was in NY.I'm not certain, but unless something reminds me of being there, i don't think i was in NYC during the winter of 2000.
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Joe FreyLocation: Saratoga Springs, NY
I am not sure that Seatrain would have heard the Salin' Shoes version of Willin' if Allmusicdotcom's timeline is accurate. If they did, it would have been interesting to hear if that would have changed their version of the song.
I bought that album while in college because of the RS review. I just could not get into it - - not sure why. It reminds me how intensely personal music can be.
I hate to disagree with Mrs. V, but Little Feat's version sounds like a truck driver is singing the song and has been on the road for too many miles. Personal again.
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John DSubject: Rick Hall
I was trying to set up an interview with Rick Hall a few weeks back; but his son said he was not well. I had no idea how sick he was. A true iconic figure in popular music and what a producer. R.I.P. Rick Hall.
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Jeff A.Rod. Andy Kulberg was somewhat kinda close to Danko in stance, the way he stood onstage, even some sonic.... The resemblance, well....
I caught a good amount of Blues Project shows in the 90s & maybe the early 2000s in NYC, possibly some in the late 80s- if they were doing em, i was there. Well over a dozen. All in NYC in the Bottom Line. Some were Blues Project alone, some were The Blues Project opening for another act of Kooper's..
At one show i was standing at the bar, turn to my right, Elliott Randall was next to me. We were kibbizing, I mentioned to him that the way Kulberg stood on stage, even his build & face to a degree,& some of the sonics reminded me of Rick. Elliott smiled wide, & said -Yes,& Rick also played both play through an echoplex.
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RodThere is a Dutch TV performance by Seatrain on YouTube that gives an idea of who sung what songs (mostly from Seatrain and MM). Baskin and Peter Rowan do all the leads. There's a few interviews on YT as well. Andy Kulberg comes across as the leader. A funky bass player as well.
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Jeff A.Rick Hall died.
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Bill MRod: An interesting thought. I don't know who sings what on the Seatrain songs I know, but I don't recall anything sounding like Richard. Nevertheless, the success of the Band, with their rural / old-mannish vocals, made it acceptable for others (like Seatrain) to sing like that. Still, Seatrain must've recognised that they lacked a more traditional big voice or they wouldn't've gone after Luke Gibson. (You can find Luke and the Apostles on Youtube; I highly recommend the a-sides of their two 45s - "Been Burnt" from '66/'67 and "You Make Me High" from '70.)
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RodI love that 2nd Seatrain album. The following two were a bit patchy but North Coast is a stand out. If The Band had have kicked Richard out of the group (as Robbie alluded to in his book) then Lloyd Baskin might have been an incredible replacement. From what I've read around the net I get the impression that he might be quite religous.
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WallsendI am somewhat belatedly working my way through the 10 cd boot of the soundboard recordings of the 74 tour. The uneven mix throws up some interesting aspects of the songs. Definitely worth revisiting.
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LisaHey Bill, go for it! Happy New Year everybody!
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Ian WSubject: Seatrain LP
It was indeed the 'Marblehead Messenger' LP to which I referred. It was recorded in Marblehead, Mass. and, many, many years later, we got to visit Marblehead itself very briefly. It was towards the end of a day. A space in its very small central parking lot was yielded up as we arrived. There was a group of musicians playing on the sea wall nearby. Though the nearest restaurant was unable to take us, a local advised somewhere a short walk away. We ate overlooking the rough and tumble of the sea. And we ended up chatting a shop owner with British connections. Despite my reaction to that particular Seatrain LP, I have fond memories of the place that 'inspired' it.
Yes, some planes can be remarkably noisy inside, particularly those originally developed for use by the military, such as the CASA C-212. On my first visit to Spain in the very early 1960s, the Spanish military were still flying aircraft that were, essentially, from the WWII era or earlier. I can quite clearly recall their equivalent of the Messerschmitt Bf 109 fighter and of the Heinkel He 111 bomber! I even saw a Dornier Do 24 flying boat land in the harbour one evening. The reason I mention this is that I can also recall their Junkers Ju 52 three-engined transport planes, the type that the CASA C-212 was designed to replace. I've not flown in either but I imagine the Ju 52 was pretty noisy inside, so maybe the CASA C-212 didn't seem too bad to them.
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JQSubject: James McMurtry
Hi Bob - I posted here that I recently read that Cocktaw Bingo is our new national anthem. Plus I had just played it on the air seconds before I read your note. A sign??
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Bob FWeb: My link
Subject: New James McMurtry Protest Song
James McMurtry has a new protest song called State Of The Union. McMurtry is responsible for the last great protest song, his 2005's heart wrenching masterpiece We Can't Make It Here Anymore. He's going on tour this month opening for Jason Isbell. Now that will be a great show.
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Jeff A.Bill, put some slide on it change a few words--willin to travel ten miles - you're Lowell George low on gas. I'
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Bill MSubject: Willin'
John D: thanks for the link. I thing Lloyd's line (with your added word), "Will travel up to ten miles really", will make a dilly of an opening for my planned contribution to the Great American Songbook (which is mentioned yet again by Lloyd).
Lisa: I just sang that line to myself and I hear a new "Macarena" coming on.
Entered at Mon Jan 1 15:47:47 CET 2018 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
John DSubject: Lloyd Baskin
"Will travel up to 10 miles." Really.
Entered at Mon Jan 1 15:46:33 CET 2018 from (126.96.36.199)Posted by:
John DWeb: My link
Subject: Seatrain & singer Lloyd Baskin
I admit that I ordered Marblehead to complete their catalog. I have to agree with Peter that the "Seatrain" album prior to Marblehead, I believe to be their best. I do want to say that Bloodshot Eyes and the cover of Watching The River Flow was the reason I purchased Watch a long time ago. Like to find out what happened to singer Lloyd Baskin. Always thought he had a Bandish sound to his voice. Whatever happened to Lloyd Baskin? The link might surprise you.
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Peter VMarblehead Messenger was the dull one. The middle "Seatrain" produced by George Martin remains a favourite, and Mrs V swears that their high-speed Willin' is better than either Little Feat studio version.
Ian, For a passenger plane and noise, it's hard to beat the Casa C-212 Aviocar, much used in Spanish internal flights. It was high wing, 20 odd seats, and if you got a seat right by the engine (as I did twice) you could neither hear anything nor see anything. One flight to La Coruna deafened me for a day, plus I could barely speak after trying to converse during the flight.
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Ian WSubject: Happy New Year etc etc
While I've not been 'obvious' in recent months, I ahve been checking in from time to time and just wanted to wish all a "very Happy New Year!".
To pick a few recent themes;
I had a green card in the mid-1960s and this was indeed sufficient for one to be drafted (or so I was told at the time).
Like Peter, I found the Seatrain album I once owned 'a tad dull'. When circumstances required that I divest myself of some of my LPs, it was one of those that just had to go.
Someone, some time way back, mentioned having flown in a DHC-8 (now known as a Bombardier Dash 8). In the last 6 months, family circumstances have seen me make 12 flights to and from Scotland, all of them in this type of aircraft. Technically, these were the in the "Q" series, the 'Q' standing for 'quiet' apparently - they are not particulalrly. For ecologically-minded folk, a turboprop aircraft will use roughly 50% less fuel (plus or minus 10%) than a regional jet.
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glenn tSubject: happy new year!
greeting Band fans! have we/are we/will we (depending on your time zone) be listening to that new year's eve concert from long ago? The Band rocking the Academy of Music? Garth's incredible Chest Fever intro? The best way to ring in the New Year! No no, I don't want to hang up my Rock 'N Roll shoes!
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FredSubject: A distant voice from the near future.
Bill M: No flying cars, yet.
Entered at Mon Jan 1 00:09:24 CET 2018 from (22.214.171.124)Posted by:
Bill MThanks Fred. You too. As you've already spent time there, do you have any tips on what we might look out for?