The Band Guestbook, January 2019

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brown eyed girl

Peter/Bill M/JQ/ and many others on this site who have similar issues....Chiropractor's office product similar to Traumeel....Traumacare Cream or Tablets.

"Traumacare works directly at the root of muscle pain, backaches, sports and repetitive stress injuries, minor joint pain and post-operative inflammation to accelerate the healing process."
Partner uses Arnica Salve from Acupuncture Clinic and Liniment. I sometimes use Infrared Patches or Salonpass Patches.

JQ...Really sorry to hear about your surgery. Mobility is everything. For some people like Jane Fonda who had two knee replacements and one hip surgery or is it the other way around...Allowed her to do everything in her life with ease except running, etc. Mr. Maximus who is almost 69 refuses to have knee surgery so walks with a cane and a knee brace. Very difficult to see him like this as he was always the one in our group who would say, "Shall we go for a walk?" When I emailed JT about knee issues he suggested laser treatments. I find in general when your weight doesn't go up; inflammation and pain not as much an issue.

Music Connections...Remedy...The Band. First song to come to mind but about different kind of pain...I Don't Need No Doctor...Humble Pie

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JQ

PV - I had this done 2 years ago today and it’s still not better than it was pre-surgery. And the thing was terrible pre-surgery. I’ve no advice except to work through the pain and getting it to lay flat and and bend far back. I was there in PT watching 90 year old women dance around with glee 2 weeks after their surgery, likely laughing at me. I see the knee doc next week and hopefully he’ll have an answer; the pain and swelling hasn’t changed much since I had the dam thing done. And woe is me..

I think Bassman has got this Americana thing figured out. That said, and without that genre title, there’s loads of really good rootsy type stuff being made here now by many, well accomplished, young artists. I’m told that Julluard and Berkeley both offer ancient American music, blues, banjo, etc majors for those wunderkinds that attend.

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Peter V

Thanks, Bill. Traumeel has disappeared from the shops here too. We used to get it. Atrogel, which is arnica gel is good, and claims to be more effective than most painkilling gel in blind tests,

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brown eyed girl

b. lee...Yes Punk and New Wave resonated with me. Maybe because the music was of my time. Any genre of music has timeless music and any genre has tissue music.

JD and others...As for Anglicana...I simply I understood it's meaning as English roots music. As for Americana...Robbie sometimes referred to The Band's music as actually being North Americana.

This weekend I am going to see the Alvin Ailey Dance Theatre for probably the fifth time. First time was in NYC in 1991 and one other time. The other times in TO.

"Using African-American spirituals, song-sermons, gospel songs and holy blues, Alvin Ailey’s Revelations fervently explores the places of deepest grief and holiest joy in the soul." I have to repeat it again.... "explores the places of deepest grief and holiest joy in the soul." Most moving for myself is Fix Me Jesus and Donny Hathaway's A Song For You...most joyful Rocka My Soul In The Bosom Of Abraham. The music with the dance performances are always an other worldly experience which I am always thankful for.

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b.lee

Subject: What's in a name...

Isn't the term "Americana" just a pigeon hole invented by the music industry/press to lump together anything that contains some point of reference to music of a bygone era, especially 'folk' or people's music - bluegrass, blues, old time country, pre-big band or pre-bob jazz, etc. Anything contemporary that has a banjo, a dobro or fiddle in it, definitely. Kind of a copout IMHO. Would the Band debut today, they would definitely get plastered with the Americana label.

Is this Anglicana term the same idea? In the day, there were those who 'got' the British bands and artists - Renaissance, Steeleye Span on one end, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Genesis on the other - not to mention Monty Python and the Bonzos - things that were quintessentially British Isles, and those who simply did not. (Devotees of things British being termed 'Anglophiles'.) Similarly the New Wave and Punk of the 70s-80s resonated with some here and did not with many. Examples abound across the spectrum, certainly including the Kinks, but also Ian Dury, the whole pub rock scene (Brinsley Shwartz, Nick Lowe, Dave Edmunds) and the hardcore prog-rockers (Hatfield and the North, National Health, and the like)

Is there a point to this? Not really.

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Bill M

Peter V: Stuck in hospital and having to lie on your own laptop. NHS cuts again, I assume. Re arnica, I highly recommend Traumeel - a German made miracle-working cream or gel. Not longer sold in Canada, but an expat friend brings us a tube when we remember to ask ad he remembers to buy.

As for the interesting Anglicana discussion, I was gutted to read here that Gentle Giant is Scottish at its core, but then realised that the music is as Americana in style as Sparks. There's a cleverness and bounce to the music, and generally a debt owed to stellar - and often daring - production. /n I was also disheartened to see the rush to include traditional folk (and pure C&W and blues) in the -cana genres. I'd see some Kinks - "Waterloo Sunset", "Victoria - fitting the bill, but not all. Nor all Beatles (not even all Sarge Pep). Much Tull, a God bit of Traffic, "Stairway To Heaven", much Genesis with Gabriel, "Video Killed The Radio Stars", "Ogden's Nut Gone Flake" and and more the the Small Faces". All very English-seeming, and all evolved way beyond its folk and or music-hall roots.

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brown eyed girl

Robbie's grandson...Donovan Robertson...Computers For Homeless Shelters Go Fund Me.

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brown eyed girl

Eastman Guitars...Robbie Robertson

Peter...Hope your healing has begun. FYI...Most people take with a grain of salt as some refer her to be a new ageist. I have Louise Hay's book You Can Heal Your Life and the section with physical/body ailments and psych/emotional connections are very plausible in my books.

"Louise Hay also suggests that Knees represent Pride and the Ego. ... Knees problems are related to the inability to bend, stubborn ego and pride, fear, inflexibility, and possible kidney issues. Healing Tips for the Knee. Acupuncture to build Kidney function and stimulate the flow of Qi and blood."

I have some knee issues...osteo-arthritis due to falling twice badly at work...I am active with yoga and walking but no longer high-impact activities...only low-impact. Anyway, I didn't see water in the hallway and went for a ride without my permission by the water fountains. Another time I was in the gym with the kidzzz teaching them various ball skills and somehow...I ended up on the floor face down. Funny now. I think I was showing them how to stop the ball in soccer/football and yet couldn't stop myself from falling. On the floor I looked up and witnessed silence. I was teaching that day grade 1/2. They weren't sure if they had lost their teacher that day. Kindergarten to grade two...Teachers mean a lot to them. Grade three to six...Peers rule. Also, probably using incorrectly weight machines for legs....but mostly skipping with my training rope days gone by was another reason for my cartilage to slowly deteriorate....very good for fitness but not for your knees. The first time I organized a Jump Rope For Heart Fundraiser at school; my Principal had warned me about skipping and knees but I was in my thirties and of course heard him but didn't listen. Btw, that year I even had a complete sound system outside while the kidzzz were in their groups going to station do station where they explored various skipping skills and I brought my own music. It had nothing to do with skipping. At one point Steppenwolf's Magic Carpet Ride was starting to play. One of my younger co-workers by five years had a quizzical look on her face like what the heck is she playing now...As soon as John Kaye began singing...huge smile on her face. As for the emotional/psych ramifications of knee issues...right on.

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Peter V

These two are relAted in that both started out with fake American accents but switched to English accents though My Old man’s A dustman fits in novelty as does Little White Bull. Lonnie was more likely to use fake American on some songs. Tommy wS the full Cockey

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Peter v

A much better example that John Barleycorn which misled me because it is a traditional song, missing that music hall quality which creeps into hole in my shoe. I will be doing an adapted version as soon as I can sit up straight enough to type on the iPad keypad. Am in a warm glow of gratitude to all the professionals here in the hospital - and Bournemouth slaughtered Chelsea 4-0 last night!.

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Norm

Subject: Anglicana

OK Thanks John. I got it. So Dunc where do you figure Nic Jones Penguin Eggs fits into this?

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Pat B

The first two Traffic albums are loaded with Anglicana, with Hole In My Shoe being a prime example. Kevin Coyne is another singer who fits the bill.

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John D

Subject: Dunc

A thorough and great explanation Dunc. Thank you very, very much. This is going to be interesting to follow.

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JQ

If we were to look for similarities of these two, perhaps it would be in the essentially rootsy aspects of Americana. So Anglicana could go with Lonnie Donegan and other skiffle guys. Then that might have then split into neo renaissance like Pentangle and Fairport. And then, simultaneously, early Brit blues like Mayall, Korner and C Davis? I think those 2 genres had uniquely Brit aspects but we’re still derivative. Whereas The Beatles seemed to have been invented out of whole cloth; or did they come out of the Brit music hall stuff?

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Peter V

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Peter v

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brown eyed girl

Peter...Oops two posts got scrambled. Anyway, I would recommend Arnica and Acupuncture in your recovery as well. I had a part-time job working in a Clinic and many patients came in to listen to some tunes or they brought their own music and relaxed in comfy recliners while communal healing took place.

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brown eyed girl

Peter V... :-D

Naomi Shihab Nye, Words Under the Words, Eighth Mountain Press, 1995.

Loving-kindness meditation

May I be safe from harm May I find peace and ease May I feel strength in my body as it is May I take care of myself with joy

Peter...Wishing I saw The Clash and Black Uluru (Black Freedom) as well as New Order in the early eighties. I would have preferred smaller venue as was the case with New Order. Still remember checking out the gay clubs with my close buddy and New Order was in order. Fun times. Wasn't into the hard drugs so it was really fun times.

"I don't want to change the world
I'm not looking for a new England
I'm just looking for another girl

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Dunc

Subject: Roast beef for Sunday alright.

I was trying to, John D. I think the term is a response to Americana, which is now used as a description for certain artists across here.

I think Peter is meaning songs which have English themes, sung by English people and this is the hard bit to define - sung using English music.

I think the Kinks are the shining example, but I do think in their latter days they lost their way.Interestingly there were news reports up here on Monday that 'Kinks Escaped Dylan Influence'. The newspaper article goes on to say that an academic named Tudor Jones has written and I quote:

'Bob Dylan had a big influence on every major British popular songwriter of the 1960s apart from Ray Davies. Jones says Dylan's songwriting influenced the work of John Lennon and George Harrison, Mick Jagger and Pete Townshend. But Jones argues in his book, Bob Dylan and the British Sixties, that Davies was probably the least influenced. He highlights Davies' 1965 song A Well Respected Man and says that marked a shift in the style, but suggests the song owes more of a debt to Noel Coward, Somerset Maugham or Peter Cook.

I feel that Ray Davies has for the most part written about English themes. Also, I think the Beatles' Taste of Honey, related to the kitchen sink film of 1961, Paperback Writer and Lovely Rita are Anglicana songs because of the English themes, English words, English music and sung in English accents - not false American accents. When I'm sixty four is a brilliant example, although Paul puts on a Scottish accent at one point...but it is Anglicana, with the music owing much to the influence of variety theatre, and the lyrics very English with references to knitting by the fireside and a special holiday in the Isle of Wight.

Also the music.The great folk albums Penguin Feet by Nic Jones and Liege and Lief by Fairport Convention are clearly English. Definitely English. As soon as I play them I know they are not Scottish or Irish.

Peter mentions Richard Thompson. His great English motor bike song refers to a Vincent Black Lightning - a classic English bike and the story is definitely English, whereas if he had been writing Americana the bike might have been a Harley Davison.

So to sum up John, Anglicana refers to songs which can only be English in all ways - English music, English themes, have English narratives, sung in English accents not false American ones, English references and English influences.

How am I doing, John? You're the professional.

But maybe Peter thinks I'm havering. Now there's a great word.

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John D

I wouldn't call Gentle Giant Anglicana; however I would put Fotheringay; in that category.

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John D

I guess you have to go to Peter's website; which I just did Norm. So here we go.

Anglicana … Peter writes, "My category. It’s not “British” but English.

As Americana can drift into straight country, much Anglicana drifts into straight English folk. The word has been used before. Show of Hands named an album Anglicana in 2000. Eliza Carthy’s 2010 album used it, and she described Anglicana as “Englishness as I feel it.”

So there you go Norm. I didn't go back far enough in threads to figure it out. Interesting.

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Peter v

I am in hospital on my iPad, having had a right knee replacement - came round three hours ago and am full of tubes and wires but have eaten. Anglicana is more than classic English rock. It needs to cross genres and there are elements like lyrics, singer accent, style often referring vaudeville or brass bands in a rock context. A big dose of folk, but as I say in the article, folk Anglicana is a separate category.

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Norm

Subject: I DUNNO!!

I called out to Peter a way back there John. I think it's something he made up. Writers think they have this licence for a play on words. Just like you John I looked it up and I can't find it..........I think Peter is sitting back there some where snickering!

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John D

OK. So nobody tell me what it means. You're going to make me guess? Is it a play on the word Anglophone? Dunc you saw me ask the meaning of the word. Do you know what it means.

Norm HELP!

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Dunc

Subject: Graham Nash + Anglicana

I saw Graham Nash last night. It was a great concert. There were three on stage - Graham Nash, an outstanding lead guitarist and a keyboard player sitting at right angled keyboards, who held it all together. The musicianship was brilliant. Graham Nash was the consummate professional. He spoke clearly and interestingly between songs and is a really good singer, singing beautifully and you could hear every word. There seemed no sign of aging in his voice, so pure. The concert began with 'Bus Stop' and finished with 'Teach Your Children'. The three musicians kept the songs fresh, the lead guitarist unbelievable. He mentioned the hard time Joni Mitchell has had recently. Guest songs included 'A Day In The Life', Stephen Stills '4+20' (I think), and 'Everyday' as part of the encore. He spoke very highly about Stephen Stills, saying he was an underrated lead guitarist. An hour and half on stage.

I think you've hit upon something, Peter. There is definitely Anglicana. Absolutely...and the Kinks are a perfect example. Waterloo Sunset must be one of the great Anglicana songs. After reading your article Peter, I think Anglicana can come from a variety of genres - pop, variety, folk, classical, punk and rock.

And last night's concert began with another great example of Anglicana, 'Bus Stop' written by Philip Gouldman. I'm not going to criticise this concert, but maybe I would have liked an Anglicanan Nash, Clarke, Hicks song such as Carrie Anne or Jennifer Eccles. Surely a big part of English (and Scottish) lives is when you have walked the girl home from school and her dad wouldn't let you in the house.

Several of the Beatles' songs are Anglicana - a shining example being 'Lovely Rita'. The words are important. What English boy has not taken his girlfriend home and spent the night 'sitting on a sofa with a sister or two'? This is leading me into the great English film 'Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush' and the brilliant Anglicanan song by Traffic.

First time I have heard of the term Anglicana, Peter, but absolutely correct. What's that song by Sham '69? 'Hurry Up Harry, We're Going Down The Pub'. Anglicana's greatest punk song. I love that song.

You need to get it out there, Peter...before anybody else discovers it.

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John D

Subject: Anglicana

BEG that doesn't answer my question, I see the name of her album is Anglicana. What does this have to do with Gentle Giant? Peter maybe you can answer this. Is this a new word you are now using for some of my favourite British Bands of the seventies? Sorry if the question is confusing; but honesty I am confused. Thank you all. Love the name though.

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brown eyed girl

Eliza Carthy – Anglicana

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John D

Subject: Anglicana

I see by the groups mentioned what the term "Anglicana "means; but is this a word made up for this site instead of using Classic British Rock? Just wondering. I've Googled the name and it doesn't come up anywhere.

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brown eyed girl

1990 England

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brown eyed girl

Selling England By The Pound

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Bill M

Pat B: Great call. Here's a brilliant close cousin, "England" by Sparks - England-based Americans happily doing Anglicana.

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Pat B

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Norm

Subject: C'mon Peter. What in hell is anglicana

Is this something you made up? I can't even find it. What I can tell you is I found this band on youtube. Apparently from Brazil I think. "Milk & Blues" Guitar player and great singer. Bass, Drums and 3 girls. Drop dead gorgeous, singing backup. One with tambourine, one is a super harp player and the other has the greatest hooters in south or north America and she's showin' them and she's big enough to burn diesel! Watch them do "The Thrill is gone" on youtube.

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JQ

I’m into George Gently 1966, but they never use music to set the timeframe. I’d guess ‘66 would be around the outset of the genre you speak of?

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Americana & "Anglicana"

A new page added to music discussing Americana, and whether ANGLICANA exists (follow link) and how to define it. I suggests twenty classic examples and there’s a comments box on the page so you can argue the toss or add more … from Anthony Newley and David Bowie via The Kinks and Richard & Linda Thompson to to Bellowhead.

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Dunc

Subject: Catching Up

Thanks Bill M.Really enjoyed the BARK. Good quality productions. I’m going to return to them. It’s a while since I looked at BARK on You Tube because I felt the clips were not great quality before. I think an artist’s YouTube has to be good now. Enjoyed African music clip too, loved it at the concert, but I’m not an expert.

Very similar, Peter. I don’t know Nick Lowe’s work well but the three Brentford trilogy albums get a regular play.

Norway is incredibly expensive, Norm.

Never got prawn sandwiches with the prawn sandwich brigade, but a beautiful meal of smoked duck, chicken stuffed with haggis and accompaniments and a gorgeous cheese cake. The meal was better than the football. We now sit bottom of the league.

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Bill M

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haso

Subject: rumble

Just watched the whole of "Rumble". Mentioned here a good bit... contributions of Indians to r 'n' r, etc.; Link Wray, Charley Patton, RR, Jesse Ed Davis, many others. Makes the case for a lot more influence on what we all listen to than I certainly would have ever thought. Anyway, it was recently on public tv here stateside and can be watched at pbs dot org slash independent lens. Well worth the almost 90 minutes. Sorry for the north country and other continents, I'm not well-versed in whether our "public tv" travels on your webs.

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Wallsend

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Lisa

Recently I heard Kashtin's Akua Tuta, and was reminded of how great they were. They were part of the 1993 Music West conference Robbie was keynote speaker at, and they played a fantastic concert at the Commodore - they were on fire, probably because Robbie was reputed to have been there (not visibly, and believe me, I looked!). I know this is pretty obscure, but does anybody know who their lead guitarist was? Most of their band was aboriginal, but he was a white guy with very blond hair. I've looked around from time to time but never succeeded in finding out who he was.

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Peter V

Subject: Soundalike 2

And here's Rex Bob Lowenstein by Mark Germino. As far as I can see Nick was 1984 and Mark was 1989.

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Peter V

Subject: Soundalikes?

I just realized while humming Nick Lowe's "Rose of England" (lionked) that I was veering into another favourite, Mark Germino's "Rex Bob Lowenstein" which Garth recorded with Burrito De Luxe. How close are they? This link is THE ROSE OF ENGLAND

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Peter V

" I for one prefer the tried and tested recipes, like speaking well of each other and respecting different points of view; coming together to seek out the common ground; and never losing sight of the bigger picture."

She may have been thinking of Brexit, but also of Robertsonians and Levonistas.

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Bill M

Dunc: I take back everything I said about that Neil Young Tribute collection, "Borrowed Tunes 2", and in particular Blackie and the Rodeo Kings' cover of "Unknown Legend". After repeated listening, I'll now say it's a gorgeous piece of work, gorgeous. And there's lots of nice stuff by other artists too. I looked around YouTube to find a link to the BaRK version of the song, but no such luck. I was going to link to the impressive cover of Bruce Cockburn's angriest classic, "If I Had A Rocket Launcher", but then came upon this three-song set from BaRK's appearance at the Shrewsbury Folk Festival in 2014. The second song is Colin Linden's "Remedy", and he says nice things about our guys in the intro.

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Norm

Subject: A perfect Stranger??

I suppose then calling Robbie Robertson a "mish mouthed puke" must mean you are a close acquaintance of his.

As defined by the web master this site is dedicated to celebrating the music of the Band. Calling Robbie or Levon or any other Band member names like that on this site is done by some one who is too simple minded to be respectful.

Do you really think that every one else is going to respect you for that kind of talk? Give your head a shake.

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Norm

Subject: Careful what you wish for

Well JQ you were wanting more input. Is this what we want some simple minded fool starting to bad mouth one or the other all over again. Real friendly.

Peter and Dunc, fresh prawns and crabs and spinach salad for supper right out of the water two hours ago.

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Eulalie

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Peter V

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JQ

Hi Jan - I was a bit surprised at how many, seemingly everyday type, fans JRR has on Twitter. Perhaps consider weighing in there and making them aware of this site/guestbook. I can’t say with any certainty at all but maybe they don’t know and could be interesting contributors here.

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jh

Subject: JRR: New book and album!

Robbie on twitter today:

«mixing the new album, editing the new book. good combo.»

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Bill M

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Eulalie

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brown eyed girl

Robbie and Levon...Happy Weekend to the GB....Brrrrr

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Peter V

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Norm

Subject: Prawns & Ferrys & Shetland Islands

Peter & Dunc, it's funny. I get back home yesterday from setting my prawn and crab traps and you guys are talking about prawn sandwiches. In Prince Rupert in the summer time a couple of the cafes serve shrimp sandwiches. Now the shrimp up there are huge and they pile so many in they just cover the plate with shrimp. People just love it because it is so generous.

I'm going to research that Dunc. Problem is if I get to the Shetland Islands I'll never want to leave. I love that place. I spend hours at night when this damn arthritis keeps me awake travelling the world on google earth. Another place I'd like to visit is the Faroe Islands. Fishing villages.

I was very surprized looking at hotels in Aberdeen. Some really nice places for half what you pay here. I forget the name of a particular one I looked at in Aberdeen, beautiful big room, and nice bar and café for $71 Canadian. A compareable place in Courtenay here on the island "The Westerly Hotel" (one of the Best Western chain) is $140 a night. But Lars tells me Norway is very expensive. $10 for a glass of beer. That's like Australia really expensive.

I just find out from Susan yesterday our young folks are coming from Australia right about the time I need to go and meet up with Lars. I hope I can figure this out. If I was to leave when they are coming I might as well never come back!

Back on the thread of George Harrison. Any one who hasn't watched that video Bill put up there for me should. All those folks in that bar in northern Italy playing "My Sweet Lord" is very worth listening to. One thing to notice as well as the great sound and the music, the camera man has done a wonderful job.

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Bill M

I was in Oslo for a few days for a conference, but took what I believe was Jan's advice and booked myself on a 24-hour outing called Norway in a Nutshell, which everyone there seems to know all about. You get on a mainline train in Oslo at 7:00 AM, climb fairly high in some mountain range, get out at the top of a ridge and switch to a old steam train that takes you down a very steep grade to the head of fjord, where you load onto a boat (or is it a ship?) and travel slowly out towards the mouth of the fjord - absolutely stunning scenery along the way - then get on another mainline train to Bergen. At the time, there were a bunch of young British people romping around downtown Bergen after having gotten off a ferry (I was told). Anyway, from Bergen, some people flew back to Oslo or wherever and a few, me among them, took an overnight train back to Oslo, arriving at 7:00 AM.

Looking at Dylan's Neverending Tour dates at Wikipedia, it looks like this happened in 2005 or 2013 (because I remember it being early October). 2005 seems too long ago and 2013 too recent, but of the two I'd bet on 2005.

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brown eyed girl

If Not For You...Bryan Ferry via Bob Dylan. Long live Bryan Ferry's music!

I have seen him solo twice and once with Roxy Music. Always great shows. Even older brother is a huge fan. He told me he saw Ferry in Japan while going up and Ferry going down a see through glass elevator? Fred? They have similar sensibilities in looks and idiosyncrasies. Not sure if he exposed me to his music or if I discovered him on my own.

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brown eyed girl

Hi Ilkka. "Top Of The Pops" Show (1965) Gerry & The Pacemakers - Ferry Cross The Mersey
6,725,633 views...Don't let the sun catch you crying but cry, cry baby, cry baby, cry baby, honey, welcome back home.

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Dunc

Flights from Bergen to Shetland take an hour and you can get them on a Wednesday or a Saturday. Look at Shetland website, Norm.

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Dunc

Subject: Flights

I think that I have found regular Summer flights from Bergen to Shetland. I’ve still to get to Shetland, but it is unique. I’m as far north as Orkney. Shetland would be really interesting.

From there regular ferries to Aberdeen. From there to Edinburgh or Glasgow or other parts of Scotland.

But if you were in Scotland you should explore how to get to Orkney. Unusual again with the most archaeological sites in this section of the world next to Egypt.

So flight from Bergen to Shetland is a possibility and takes use into Scottish/British transport system....if the flights are going this summer.

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Dunc

Subject: Ferries

Norm, it is a source of frustration that there are not ferries from Aberdeen or Newcastle, but Peter is correct.

No direct flights to Scotland also. Two flights needed.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Ferries again

Yes, yes, there is a Band connection, don't get upset. - When Bob Dylan (lead singer of The Band) received his Polar Music Prize in Stockholm Brian _Ferry_ sang a few Dylan songs.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Ferries to Scandinavia

Norm, forget Scandinavia, go to Greenland instead if it might be misery and pedofilie and alcoholism. You can fly to some ancient American flight bases first and then got to the most strange places in the world. - When in Kastrup (Copenhagen's airport) I always go to passengers lounge bound to Greenland. . . hunters and fishermen, school classes with the teachers, tired byrocrats, optimistic US citicents who wonder if they are being served STAKES(!) in the flight.

Actually, we are planning our 50th Anniversary trip to Greenland. Our favorite Danish supermarket is presented there so we will survey by eating the fish rissoles. (BTW thanks for signing our 30th Anniversary guestbook in 1999. I believe Norbert, Brown Eyed Girl and Peter V are still here. Please forgive me if I have forgotten anyone. The file is missing :-(

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Ferries

What a thread! - Some of the biggest ferries driven by batteries sail between Sweden and Denmark. They make a big deal of it! As a regular passenger I enjoy the quiet crossing, though. On the other hand, I am not as dumm as I seem to be here in GB ;-) I know that the electricity comes from cheap German charcoal. It's OK for me. It comes from the sun, after all. Even if it is from millions and billions and trillions of years ago it comes from the sun.

I have noticed some posts about George Harrison. 'Here Comes The Sun' was my favourite as a bass player in schoolboy/college student band. Even the big aggressive gorgeous blond stood in the front of the school and forced me to sign a document to a local radio station in favor of George Harrison.

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Norm

Subject: Ferries

Thanks Peter. I spent a lot of time on the internet last night. I guess Bill was there way back. There has been no service from Bergen to Aberdeen or Newcastle for many years and people are still angry and bemoaning the problem.

Too bad it would have been a great trip although pretty long and quite expensive.

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Peter V

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Peter V

Norm, Many years ago, half a century (shit!), when I lived in Hull there were regular ferries to Scandinavia. So strong was the link that the department stores had flag stickers with “Swedish spoken here” and “Norwegian spoken here.” The university had a department of Swedish and actually paid students to study it as a first year option. (Jan, obviously if it had been Norwegian, we would have done). When I was in Hull last year they were bemoaning that that link had all gone. I just Googled and it looks as if all the ferries now go to Immingham on the other side of the River Humber. They say “freight only” and even “we no longer take leisure passengers” but Google.

The best guy to ask is our host, of course. Actually if you rent a car, Immingham is an easy drive to York or Lincoln, both worth seeing. York is almost a "must see" town.

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STEVE

harrisonstories: “ George Harrison and David Boyle at Albert Grossman’s house in Woodstock [x] Robbie Robertson’s (The Band) autobiography, Testimony Excerpt #2: George and Pattie visit Woodstock in November 1968. “A few weeks later George Harrison... harrisonstories: George Harrison and David Boyle at Albert Grossman’s house in Woodstock [x]

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STEVE

harrisonstories: “ George Harrison and David Boyle at Albert Grossman’s house in Woodstock [x] Robbie Robertson’s (The Band) autobiography, Testimony Excerpt #2: George and Pattie visit Woodstock in November 1968. “A few weeks later George Harrison... harrisonstories: George Harrison and David Boyle at Albert Grossman’s house in Woodstock [x]

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Norm

Subject: On the other hand..........

Thanks for that Bill, I should have thought about all the ferries in that part of the world. A ferry across the north sea would be great.

I guess the curiosity just really gets some guys they got to know! Was George at the last waltz or not! I just don't get into that kind of stuff that much. Now on the other hand what would George be doing out hitch hiking fer Chris-sake? He sure has enough sheckles to go first class where ever he wants. Well..........consider Forrest Gump was a gawd damn multimillionaire from selling fucking Bubba-Gump shrimp, but........"He just felt like running". Maybe one day George thinks, I wonder what it would be like to be out on that open road without a care just seeing where it takes you .......who knows.

George has been gone a while now.....what the fuck does it matter.

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jackmydog

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Bill M

Dunc: Thanks for pointing me towards Seckou Keita, who I checked out and liked. In return I give you Abdelli - see link. Similar sound in some ways.

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Peter V

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jackmydog

Subject: ain't in it for my health

bit random but does anyone know how one might acquire a UK watchable copy of Levon's biopic, there are only NTSC DVDs for sale

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Peter V

Dunc: I'm sure I've told you the story of watching football from the air conditioned and silent executive box with prawn sandwiches and prosecco. It was a corporate invitation. I was the only one watching the match. One woman tried watching and said, 'I don't understand it. Why has the team in black only got three players." (She meant the referee and linesmen).

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Bill M

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Dunc

Subject: Concerts

Thanks Roger and Todd. Over two thousand musicians in the city over the next two weeks. Sadly, I'll not see Amy because it's a football weekend culminating with champagne and lunch before the match against Hibs on Sunday. I have joined the prawn sandwich brigade(for one match).

But I saw a great concert on Saturday if you scroll down below. Absolutely brilliant.

And on Tuesday I saw another great concert. Firstly I saw the traditional Usher’s Island – comprising Planxty/Bothy Band veterans Andy Irvine, Dónal Lunny and Paddy Glackin, plus Michael McGoldrick and John Doyle. Great acoustic work and interplay from leading players on the folk scene. Pretty sure Roger, Peter, Norman and Landmark would have enjoyed it.

Second half was the ex Waterboy, Sharon Shannon and guests. The leading guest was Senegalese kora virtuoso Seckou Keita and hotly-tipped Irish singer-songwriter and multi-instrumentalist Susan O Neill, a great singer. They played a wide variety of music. Susan was a brilliant singer and I loved her versions of Jolene and First Cut Is The Deepest done in an Irish way with accordion, guitar and fiddle. Seckou Keita was new to me and I had never seen the kora played before, but he is an outstanding musician. All the Waterboys' fans would have thought this part of the concert was great, and Bill M would have appreciated the kora part of the concert.

A great Irish(mainly) night.

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Norm

Subject: The Bucket List

Well Peter and Dunc and Norbert, looks like I may come over that way in mid July. My old friend Lars from the guest book here in upstate New York is going to Bergen, Norway in July. Unfortunately Lars has a very debilitating disease and he wants to see a little more while he can.

I think I'll go and meet up with him in Bergen for a bit. Bergen isn't that far above Scotland. Right across from the Shetlands actually. So Dunc I'll have to figure out where to fly to from Bergen. Then I guess I can do Scotland, England, Netherlands and home. I got one more guy I should see in Cape Town, South Africa but that is a hell of a long ways.

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Bill M

George also seems to have contributed to Bob's fashion sense - see for instance the "Desire" cover. I wonder if Bob, like I, loved the way that George (and George alone in my experience) pronounced the word "guitar". Judging from the photos, they didn't want to be without one, even when touring the property.

Re hitchhiking, we could see George as the Child of God in Joni's great song.

Still on George, the Reggie Young obit that ran in today's paper mentions him opening the Beatles' 1964 American tour as part of the Bill Black Combo. George liked his R&B / blues playing and asked him how he got his sound. Reggie suggested George switch to lighter strings, which George did.

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brown eyed girl

George Harrison Visits Bob Dylan, Byrdcliffe, Woodstock, New York. November 1968.
6 pages Photos and info.

“I liked I’d Have You Anytime because of Bob Dylan. I was with Bob and he had gone through his broken neck period and was being very quiet, and he didn’t have much confidence. That’s the feeling I got with him in Woodstock. He hardly said a word for a couple of days. Anyway, we finally got the guitars out and it loosened things up a bit. It was really a nice time with all his kids around, and we were just playing. It was near Thanksgiving. He sang me that song and he was very nervous and shy and he said, ‘What do you think about this song?’ And I had felt strongly about Bob when I had been in India years before, the only record I took with me along with all my Indian records was Blonde On Blonde. I somehow got very close to him, you know, because he was so great, so heavy and so observant about everything. And yet, to find him later very nervous and with no confidence. But the thing he said on Blonde On Blonde about what price you have to pay to get out of going through all these things twice, ‘Oh mama, can this really be the end?’ And I thought, ‘Isn’t it great?’ because I know people are going to think, ‘Shit, what’s Dylan doing?’ But as far as I was concerned, it was great for him to realise his own peace and it meant something. You know, he had always been so hard and I thought, ‘A lot of people are not going to like this,’ but I think it’s fantastic because Bob has obviously had the experience.” (George Harrison in his book I, Me, Mine) Harrison, George. I, Me, Mine. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1981, 0671427873

"But why did Dylan collaborate only with this particular Beatle? What did George Harrison offer that John Lennon or Paul McCartney didn’t? In 1968, George had no illusions about his skills, and no pretensions to be considered a genius. He wasn’t competitive at all and was happy to share his harmonic knowledge. By all accounts, this is what Bob was most interested in: Harrison’s knowledge of harmony and chords, which, objectively, exceeded Dylan’s at this time. Harrison was also a lead guitarist, something Dylan didn’t have time to be!"

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John D

Not that I'm aware of Steve. Don't think GH woud have to hitchhike.

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brown eyed girl

"Just like The Velvet Underground & Nico, The Band’sBig Pink and Richard Manuel’s influence inspired legions of would rockers to start their own bands. But even more impressive than V.U.’s genius was that The Band single–handedly changed the sound of music with one single album. So influential that both Eric Clapton and George Harrison wanted to leave their bands, Cream and The Beatles, to become full-time members of The Band. Manuel’s “In a Station” was the leader of that spiritual shift away from the “chocolate subway” sounds of Psychedelia into a more American country rock sound found on Big Pink."

Inside the spiritual genesis of Richard Manuel’s “George Harrison-type song” that is Music from Big Pink’s “In a Station”

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brown eyed girl

Many thanks Dag for your contributions of The Band 1971 and 1974.
Hei Norbert. Here are 22 pages not 26 of Getty The Band photos throughout many years including The Band in Amsterdam.
The photo of The Band at the bottom of the first page was the very first photo Rollie sent my way. Back when I first started posting I was like how did you find that photo Rollie? lol

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Peter V

Amazing Dag. I immediately saw those Geffen birthday party shots with Cher and Dylan. It confirmsthe Dako / Cher duet on Mockingbird too!

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Dag B.

Subject: The band in Concert 1974

Another volume.

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STEVE

My post question was Rumour states: George Harrison was HITCHHIKING at the time in Woodstock 11/'68 during his stay with Bob Dylan then HITCHHIKING to visit Albert Grossman. Is this true? John D - I know of George's Bob Dylan visit in Woodstock in 11/'68. My question is the HITCHHIKING in Woodstock (possibly Route 212) to visit Albert Grossman / Bearsville estate) during that time 11/'68. Again is this true?? I find it hard to believe George Harrison HITCHHIKING in Woodstock Steve

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Pat B

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Bill M

Here's an article about efforts to save what I suppose is the dying dialect of Robbie Robertson's Mohawk forebears, Kanien'keha. I like to think that's the language used by the rivet-driving Sadie Buck and her fellow Six Nation Women Singers on my favourite RedBoy track, "Stomp Dance (Unity)". Am listening to the album now.

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Peter V

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

George Harrison, Pattie Boyd & Eric Clapton
DECEMBER 1, 2017
By Mahlia Lone

Many photos, excerpts from Pattie Boyd's Wonderful Tonight, etc.

"Pattie Boyd inspired such classic George Harrison-written Beatles songs as “Something,” “I Need You,” “If I Needed Someone,” “You Like Me Too Much,” “I Want To Tell You,” “It’s All Too Much,” “Old Brown Shoe,” and “For You Blue.”

Eric Clapton’s work on Derek & The Dominoes’ 1970 album Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs was directly inspired by Boyd, including the classic title track, “I Looked Away,” “Bell Bottom Blues,” “Anyday,” “Keep On Growing,” “I Am Yours,” “Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad?,” and nearly every other track on the album. Later on, Clapton wrote “Wonderful Tonight” about Boyd."

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John D

It was not a rumour Steve. He did visit The Band in Woodstock. Whether he asked Robbie if he could join the Band; or not I'm not sure of. They say he did ask. George was one of the first to hear MFBP; along with Clapton. The album blew both of them away.

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Peter V

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STEVE

Thank you all for posting to my subject matter. There is a photo by Patti Boyd from 1976 of George Harrison & Eric Clapton sitting together in England. To view go to morrison gallery hotel com . This now eliminates of the Boyd Clapton Vs Harrison no show! If so, George Harrison would sit somewhere else with Olivia at the Last Waltz. At that time, there was a minor lawsuit with George Harrison vs Ringo Starr regarding the song I'll Still Love You written by Harrison recorded by Ringo Starr with the recording agreement. I also don't think that was the issue why George did not attend the Last Waltz. Maybe Ringo Starr might remember why George did not attend the Last Waltz? I find it hard to imagine, George being big on Bob Dylan & The Band wasn't present?

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STEVE

I saw, heard this mentioned as a rumor, that George Harrison while up in Woodstock in 1968 was hitchhiking possibly to Albert Grossman estate after spending time with Bob Dylan. please confirm if this is true, I find it hard to believe?

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brown eyed girl

"Patti and Eric arrived a few days early for rehearsals..." She took some photos.

I found Patti's book at a yard sale for a 1.00. I really enjoyed reading about her journey with both George and Eric. More importantly she seemed to have found herself without both of them. However, when she needed some initial help Eric did help her out financially. Her main heartache in the end may have been not having any children of her own.

Hi haso...Always good to see you around. Yes, terrible game the Raps played against the Celtics and all the basketball fans witnessed it in the US.

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haso

Subject: PfC, lists and g. marcus

I agree Norm; anybody covering Rockin' Chair is good by me. I could see PfC maybe deep cutting to All La Glory.

Todd, thanks for putting us all on to Megan and Rebecca; you've perfectly characterized them as 'Danko level'. Yeah, they don't seem to get up our way much. Here's the quote from the PfC website: they heard about LP "through our friendship and collaboration w/ Robbie Robertson... and his son Sebastian. They are both fans of LP and... we too became fans for life." Certainly when you catch their background, playing classical violin as kids, then a bluegrass band (teen years, I think) w/ their older sister... well they are definitely not afraid to change things up. I've been quite impressed w/ the scope of their influences (the Tip 'o' the Hat series); soul, r'n'r, heavy metal, blues & onwards. Have to think Duane would have enjoyed Megan's lap-slide, maybe Jerry Douglas and Mike Auldridge as well.

JQ: it's kind of both. I've found Greil Marcus's comments on Band doc's and accompanying the 1st reissue of TLW pretty engaging. "Mystery Train" might be a better starting point. In OWA - the basement tapes, he seems rather obsessed w/ the violence and death that he sees in both this music and the Folkways stuff by a collector named Smith (kind of a next generation Lomax, I took him to be). Lot of making connections or contrasts to early music like Dock Boggs. It is a bleak history; so I'm not advocating for white-washing, just don't know what to do w/ the bleakness.

It's not particularly long and GM does touch on almost all of the basement tapes, quite bit earlier than the restoration work those Canadian guys did on Garth's tapes to produce The Bootleg Series, volume 11. Maybe it's just the depth of analysis that cultural critics seem to go to sometimes that feels like heavy lifting. That said, our Peter V. always seems pretty clear; I don't feel lost in the weeds w/ Peter's work. Does that help at all?

BEG: I believe you touched on Steppenwolf being IT in Canada then. If memory serves, Steppenwolf the 2nd (w/ MCR, etc) was my 2nd album purchase, 1969 I think. CCR, Green River 1st. Then after those 2: Chicago Transit Authority, the brown album, John Prine's original lp somewhere in there, maybe J.J.Cale.

Norm: back to Rockin' Chair, I always thought maybe that was the name of one of your boats; that you might have sold it. Speaking of that and John Prine, I've said before it boggles my mind that he could capture the vagaries of old age (Hello in There) as well as Robbie (Rockin' Chair), when they did. What were they, like 24, 26 years old?

Thanks Peter, on the lists. I supposed Cahoots right after Stage Fright, in front of No Lights and TLW was RS being revisionist. Do you think Ringo or Paul will ever comment on TLW? Quite a different ending than their brief (yet fascinating) set atop Abbey Rd Studios. Perhaps w/ the brown album going to 50, we'll hear more from Ringo, Clapton, Bernie Taupin. I would think Dr. John would be an interesting interview.

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brown eyed girl

Great to see more contributors today! :-D

Hi Todd. Yes Patti Boyd was at TLW. Check link I posted before.

"Pattie Boyd chats to Ronnie Wood about her photographs of The Beatles in India. They also talk about The Band, and going to The Last Waltz - where Ronnie was pulled from the audience to perform on stage for the finale."

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Todd

Has anyone read Patti's book? Is it a worthwhile read? Thanks for any info.

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Todd

Hey John D, thanks for the eyewitness account. Nice to hear from someone who was there. Did you happen to notice if Patti was there at any point with Mr. Clapton?

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John D

All I can add to this discussion is that I was there; including backstage and at the after party. I did not see George Harrison at any time. Of course we all know Ringo was there. Again; if George was there I did not see him anywhere.

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Todd

Subject: Further on up the road

I'm not quite why George Harrison wasn't at The Last Waltz, even as an audience member, but I would speculate that it had something to do with his relationship with Patti Boyd Harrison at that point in time.

I think Patti left George for Eric in 1974, although she wasn't officially divorced from George until 1977. Even though Eric and George ultimately reconciled, emotions still may have been raw.

I've read that Patti was with Eric at TLW, and in November 1976, she was still technically George's wife. It probably would have been uncomfortable at best during that time span. But this is only a guess, but seems plausible to me.

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Bill

Were any Harrisons at TLW? The thing was no secret, and several stars successfully got themselves in the room despite a lack of strong connections to the hosts. So my guess is that it boils down to a choice by George - and hundreds of others, including Paul McC if I'm not mistaken - not to bother.

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Peter V

With the Band, I agree, Brown Album is #1. I would rate MFBP, Stage Fright and Rock of Ages as all 5 star albums. All equally great. So three at #2. For me, then it’s Northern Lights and TLW a shade below.

GEORGE HARRISON - interesting question. Ringo was there. I have no idea of the answer though.

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Steve

Although it's been decades ago, knowing that George Harrison was a big music admirer of The Band, I was wondering why George Harrison did not attend The Last Waltz on 11/25/1976 while 5 days before, George Harrison was on Saturday Night Live performing with Paul Simon on Here Comes The Sun & Homeward Bound & promoting his album 33& 1/3in NYC. I'm not talking about performing at the Last Waltz, again attending. If "their memory serves them well" maybe Robbie Robertson, Eric Clapton, Martin Scorsese, Ronnie Wood, John Simon, Dhani & Olivia Harrison, etc. could shed some light on this subject! If you recall George Harrison spent time in Woodstock with The band in 1968 & also on Ringo's 1973 album wrote & played with The Band (- Richard) on Sail, Away Raymond, Sail Away (It's A Sunshine Life For Me). Please check into this & thank you.

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Norm

Subject: You never even called me by my name

Hey Haso! Good to hear from you. I just got tired of writing the name every time I post. A bunch of the guys just call me by my name anyway so my cover was blown.

I saw the Larken Poe vid of the RJ song. They are great. Really I'd like to see PFC folks play Rockin Chair. There are so many of them that could do a great job and it is universal.

I think I might go and fish some prawn and crab today. We had hurricane force wind again last night 61 knot wind gusting to 69. That's roughly 80mph wind.

Hello Todd and Roger good to see youze stop by.

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Todd

Subject: Ollabelle - 'Soul of a Man' 2004

Hey Roger, that's great that you got to see Ollabelle back in the day! Sorry that you can't make it to Amy's show this week, but thank you for announcing it. Maybe some others will get the opportunity.

Here's another great video, of Ollabelle doing 'Soul of a Man' in 2004. Jimi plays slide guitar in this performance from the Living Room in NYC, which will give folks an idea of how they sounded back then, when Jimi was still with them.

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Roger

Subject: Any Helm

Thanks for the reminder Todd re Amy Helm. I posted the details in the GB before Xmas but haven’t heard of anyone going to any show. I’d reserved the date but I have something else happening in Coventry till late Wednesday and can’t get to London. Dunc - are you going? I saw Ollabelle when they visited these shores and had a great night.

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Todd

Subject: Ollabelle

In December, Ollabelle played what were originally supposed to be reunion shows with all 6 original members; one in NYC and one in Woodstock at Levon's barn. These shows were announced in October and I bought tickets to the NYC show immediately, as Ollabelle is one of my favorite bands, and opportunities to see them over the past several years have been few and far between.

Sadly, original guitarist and founding member Jimi Zhivago, passed away in early November. Jimi was instrumental in their early days, and through his connection with Steve Rosenthal's Magic Shop recording studio, was able to help them get their debut album recorded and get it in front of T-Bone Burnett who secured their original record deal with Sony.

So these two reunion shows, ended up being memorial shows and tributes to Jimi. Was still happy to see them perform together, but it ended up being a bitter-sweet affair. The evening started off rather somber and quite sad at times, but ultimately ended up being a celebration and quite healing.

I love all of these guys and gals, and the joy their music have given me over the years is immeasurable. Sitting in on guitar is the great David Mansfield who was part of Dylan's Rolling Thunder tour in 1975, and toured with Dylan for a few years after that.

At the link is a nice video from the December 20th City Winery show in NYC by Tony Pepitone. I know that BEG is an Ollabelle fan and will probably enjoy this. I appreciate that she mentions them here from time to time. Maybe also a few others will like this as well. Enjoy!

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Todd

Subject: Larkin Poe

Haso, Thanks for the info on Larkin Poe. Sounds like they are going places and making some good connections! I had never heard of them prior to mid 2017 when I started posting about them here. Wonder if Sebastian ever checks in here and saw some of the links? Or perhaps they'd already had some sort of connection with him or Robbie, due to Larkin Poe's involvement with Elvis Costello and the work that they did on the New Basement Tapes project, which dates back to 2014. I'd assume by now that he's seen their cover of 'Ophelia'. Glad that that are getting some good exposure.

They are obviously talented singers and musicians, but I think what really draws me in, is their "Danko level" earnestness and joy at making music. They certainly seem to love what they do, and present it well. I'd still like to see them live at some point, but they don't seem to tour the Northeast very frequently.

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JQ

Hi Haso - I’m interested in his book but I’m wondering about the definition of your description: like, is it too heavy, given our country’s bleak history or too many pages or too dificult, like it’s written by a garden variety rock journalist thinking he’s now James Joyce?

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Bill M

BEG: Funny that "Hey Jude" was your first record purchase. Not sure if it was the absolute first record purchase for me, but certainly the first I paid full price for - something like 85 cents at the Stedmans store at the plaza in Ajax in '69 or '70. I bought my first second-hand record at the Goodwill in the same plaza, Dr Music's excellent first record - see link. NB Peter V: a very different singer this time.

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haso

Subject: old weird

Forgot: just finished Greil's Old Weird America. Heavy lifting, that.

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haso

Subject: last 5, catching up, RS

Been awhile.

Last 5: MFBP, 2000 reissue

Handel's Messiah - Ambrosian Singers & the English Chamber Orchestra, Charles Mackerras conducting; this is a staple here during the holidays for the uninterested-in-the-Band member of the household

Lake St. Dive - Side Pony

Wyclef Jean - Carnival vol. II

Norah Jones - Daybreak

BEG: Man I am so glad, as others have also said to have you back as a regular contributor. Always interesting entries and links. Also, I'll say if it interests you, Angelina, I have questions sort of un-Band related... e- is haso77 at the comcast website. And I'll not laud over that your Raptors couldn't keep up w/ Kyrie a couple of weeks back at the TD Garden; yet to be seen what happens come the playoffs. Funny as well, I went to a Steve Miller show during college days (c. 1975) and also thought it one of the worst concerts that I ever went to; he seemed like he was either too high bother performing or just wanted to "mail it in". Went about as long as the Band's 1st gig at Winterland, 45 or 50 minutes, maybe.

A while ago someone else mentioned the recent Rolling Stone (RS 1323, Jan '19). JQ maybe? Anyone else spend anytime w/ that? 2 page "Guide"/spread on the Band. I thought their 1st part of "must-haves" made sense: MFBP, the brown album (Peter V.: might you agree that the order be flipped, in terms of import obviously not chronology?), Live at the Acad box set. But then the last there they listed the 1975 Columbia: Bob and the Band, Basement Tapes. Seems like that hasn't been counted as definitive of either the basement or them. Stage Fright, Cahoots, Before the Flood, No. Lights and TLW only made it to the "further listening" column. I think I'd upgrade Stage Fright and/or TLW & move '75's a-bunch-of-not-all-basement-tapes elsewhere. Curious too that they highlight "Where do we go from here" off of Cahoots and not LIaC. And although he sings it, the writing makes it look like Levon wrote Dylan's WIPMMasterpiece. RS also always seemed high on Testimony but only mentions Levon's TW'soF for further reading.

2 other Band-related notes: I've mentioned before the retro outfit from So. Calif called the Dustbowl Revival. They are doing a west coast tour called Across the Great Divide w/ another group I've heard called Hot Club of Cowtown to mark 50 years of the brown album. The lead singer tells me by e- (her dad's a good friend of mine here in Seacoast NH) that they do Don't Do It, The Weight, Cripple Creek, TNTDODD, Rag Mama and combine w/ Cowtown on AtGD. They feature both horns and fiddle/mandolin, I'm guessing Creek and Rag Mama might both be well-suited to their lineup . I was hoping for a deep cut like Rockin' Chair, but not so far.

Yeah, hey Norm how come you've lost that title to your GB entries? The other Band item: you might have noticed on the Playing for Change site. There's a recent youtube of Larkin Poe doing the Robert Johnson tune Come On in My Kitchen. The artist spotlight part says that RR and Sebastian are the people who got PfC connected to the Larkin Poe sisters. You wonder what tune of the Band, PfC could do their deal w/ if inclined to? Maybe The River Hymn.

Anyway thanks to all the regular writers here. Peace.

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Todd

Subject: Amy Helm UK Dates This Week

Happy New Year!....I'm a little late.

2018 ended up being quite a busy year, hence my prolonged absence. Haven't scrolled back very far, so not sure what I missed here, so will try to catch up at some point. Currently "freezing here in the South" (Southern New England that is). Minus 5 degrees Fahrenheit this morning and quite windy. We're used to cold winters here, but this is a little extreme, even for this lifelong Yankee.

I did manage to make it to a few shows, and received a few new box sets during the Holidays, although I haven't really had a chance to absorb them fully. Looking forward to exploring: The Beatles 'White Album' reissue, Dylan's 'Blood on the Tracks' Box, and The Band 'MFBP' Box.

Not sure if it's been mentioned here yet, but Amy Helm is doing some UK dates coming up pretty soon. Not sure who is close enough to make it to any of them...maybe Roger and Dunc, Peter V, Al Edge, Rob the Organ? Hope I'm not missing anyone. But if you like things she's done in the past, I'd recommend trying to get out to one of her shows coming up this week. Here are the UK dates that I saw on her website.

January 23rd - London - Borderline
January 25th - Leeds - Brudenell Social Club
January 26th - Glasgow - Celtic Connections
January 27th - Edinburgh - The Voodoo Rooms

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brown eyed girl

Mavis Staples - 99 and a Half

"Faith is taking the first step
even when you don't see the whole staircase".

Martin Luther King Jr.

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brown eyed girl

Vitamin String Quartet
Oh Sister
Bob Dylan

The kidzzz experimented with dance movements to various songs by Dylan.

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Bill M

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Dunc

Thanks Bill M. Popular guy and kids used to sing his songs in schools.

He was my late friend’s uncle. She said that they used to hide from him when they saw him up the town as he would have a drink on him.

A friend booked Matt for a show (he was on the community council) and accompanied him on guitar. My friend was a good guitarist who’d played in semi professional bands, and said it was a difficult task because Matt was well bevied by the time they took to the stage. He said Matt received thunderous applause at the end of the concert and a couple of encores. A brilliant night.

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Peter V

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Bill M

Subject: Matt McGinn

Dunc: Thought of you when I read the linked article in the "The Guardian". Never heard of him, but enjoyed a number of his songs thanks to YouTube. I can see why Billy Connolly would have championed him - "The Big Effen Bee" if nothing else.

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brown eyed girl

I just realized I bought my first recording the following year. Hey Jude by The Beatles 45.

The Band plays on: In the turbulent year of 1968, Arkansan Levon Helm and four buddies released perhaps the best debut album of all time
Philip Martin
August 26, 2018

"Like the Velvet Underground, The Band didn't rely on standard blues progressions and like Dylan, they reached back into a collective warehouse of images from what music critic Greil Marcus has termed "the old, weird America." Their songs were narratives. The singers -- especially Helm and Danko -- assumed characters and told their stories in cinematic detail.

"Helm -- famously described by Jon Carroll as "the only drummer who can make you cry" -- favored loping, ragged beats that evoked the smell of blood and cordite.

There's an appealing, jug band-style looseness to the record; only the sonic fidelity argues against the songs being recorded in the 1930s. But it's not nostalgic.

It's timeless."

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Peter V

If you’d asked me in 1968, I’d have chosen Bookends, Music From Big Pink and Music From A Doll’s House, and It’s All About Spooky Tooth. So Family would have been my first British choice at the time. Both Beggar’s Banquet and the White Album appeared only just before Christmas. In retrospect, I choose “Village Green” because I never skip a track. Every one a winner.

I skip a few in the White Album – too varied and several are weak or odd or just noisy. I agree that it would have made a single great album. The double is too much.. While not British, some tracks on Bookends are filler. Beggar’s Banquet has two tracks, Sympathy for The Devil and Street Fighting Man towering over the album. Yes, it’s all good but those two are way the best. Family’s Music From A Doll’s House all these years on is a touch jarring. It’s me that got older. Yet the Spooky Tooth still sounds great.

I never thought Hangman’s Beautiful Daughter (in spite of its chart success) was as good as the “5000 Spirits.” Then they got religion, I believe.

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Dunc

Thanks BEG. It's a good article. I have 13 of the albums and in British terms my selections are near.

I considered the Small Faces and Incredible String Band albums, but rejected them maybe wrongly.

I think of the Small Faces as a singles band, and play the singles regularly.

Where I may be wrong is The Incredible String Band's 'The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter. Often it is quoted as having considerable influence. By the time I got into albums circa 1970, the band seemed to have disappeared completely. Peter?

I like most of Lou's work too, BEG. I watched Lou 'Live at the Bottom Line' last week on Amazon. And, on Friday I finally bought a copy of Nico's 'Chelsea Girl'.

Sad news. For Brits, Ted McKenna, the drummer in the Sensational Alex Harvey Band died yesterday RIP. The guitarist in the Trashcan Sinatras dedicated a beautiful song to him yesterday...and related how us Scots popsters would always have a couple of SAHB albums amongst the Dylans, the Beatles and the Cohens.

Reggie Young died on the 18th. I don't have to say more. We all have him playing on some of our albums. RIP.

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brown eyed girl

Happy Freezing Sunday to TO.

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brown eyed girl

Bob and Rob. Looks like Stockholm '66.

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brown eyed girl

Dunc...So glad I'm glad, I'm glad...that you really enjoyed yourself with live music!

Playlist: The 20 best albums from 1968
From the arrival of heavy rock through to a revival in roots-based music, the albums released half a century ago reflected society’s chaos and upheaval. Graeme Ross compiles a list of favourites, topped by an all-time classic that never even charted on either side of the Atlantic
Graeme Ross
Thursday 26 April 2018

I wasn't even a teenager at the time. I only have two recordings from this list...The Band and Van. I do have the Double Greatest Hits by Otis, Aretha, and Rolling Stones as well as others. I did see The Steve Miler Band. Someone took me to one of his lazer shows which didn't impress me at all. One of the biggest songs in 1968 in Canada apparently was Magic Carpet Ride by Steppenwolf. One of my all time faves to this day.

Sign outside hair salon in Cabbagetown...

Life is like
Photography
You use the
Negative
to develop!

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Dunc

Subject: The Best British Album of 1968

Really enjoyed the article, Peter.

In 1968, I was still buying singles and the only album I probably heard at the time was the Beatles' White album.

But for a long time I have played the the Kinks' 'Village Green'Preservation Society.'

But also for a long time I have played the following. All are contenders for best British album of 1968.(if I am correct with dates)

The Beatles' 'White Album', which needs no explanation.

The Rolling Stones 'Beggars Banquet', definitely innovative and a return to form after 'Their Satanic Majesties Request'. The Stones still play 'Sympathy For The Devil' and 'Street Fighting Man' regularly. And not my favourite songs on the album. Great playing on it.

Van Morrison 'Astral Weeks'. Great and often suggested as the best album of 1968.

Family 'Music In A Doll's House'. Love this album, by perhaps Britain's most exciting live band at the time. That mic swinging out to hit you in the head.

Cream 'Wheels of Fire' - the double album. Owned this for a long time, but it wore out. Exciting. Now still regularly play a good collection. But remember the impact of Cream. I remember somebody painted 'Eric Clapton Is God' on the wall of shops near me in a working class scheme.

And now after the time. I bought The Zombies 'Odessey and Oracle' last year. Played the singles for years. What I have noticed is that members of other bands often say 'The Zombies' is their favourite band. The Zombies are making a good living touring with this album. It's an excellent album.

And shouts for

Donovan 'The Hurdy Gurdie Man' - I really only know the singles, but Scots slightly older than me loved this album. Britain's Dylan...as they said back in the day.

The Pentangle Pentangle. Pentangle released two albums in 1968, maybe taking British musicianship to a new level. But I'm typical of somebody my age and it was 'Basket of Light' which took me into them. Jacqui McShee says how after this album a lot of younger people started turning up at concerts. That's Me.

But there are other good to great albums. So what's the greatest British album of 1968. It would be interesting to hear views from other parts of the World.

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Dunc

Subject: Great concert

Attended a great concert last night celebrating great Scottish (and a little) Irish songs last night. Absolutely brilliant in a beautiful Victorian hall. If you don't mind I'll post the blurb.

In ‘This Is Caledonian Soul’ Ross Wilson (AKA Blue Rose Code) will, with the help of a 14-piece band and some very special guests, attempt to explore this idea by offering his unique take on generations of cult, iconic and classic Scots song.

Average White Band original member, Hamish Stuart, triple BRIT award winner Eddi Reader, world-renowned Gaelic singer Julie Fowlis, John Douglas from The Trashcan Sinatras and the incredibly rare talent that is Duke Special (from Belfast) will join Blue Rose Code for this event.

Those on stage sang a mixture of their own iconic songs and other Scottish and a couple of Irish songs. They were briliantly done with brilliant musicianship, including a string quartet and the singers backed each other.

So we had songs by Eddi Reader, Trashcan Sinatras, Van Morrison, Blue Nile, John Martyn, Graham Lyle, The Waterboys, Proclaimers, Edwyn Colllins and many more.

For example Hamish Stuart played Graham Lyle's 'My Father's Son' and Van Morrison's 'Crazy Love', which is a beautiful song - sax, strings and backing singers.

For the encore it was AWB's 'Pick Up The Pieces' and 'Lets Go Round Again'. Great to hear them plyed live again...the whole hall dancing to the music. People in their forties, fifties, sixties and seventies bopping away.

A really high standard of musicianship and passion. Brilliant.

And I bought a Blue Rose Code album this morning.

The evening was brilliant.

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Norm

Subject: Brothers in arms

Thanks very much for that Bill. I absolutely agree with you but you notice I said "best cover". Although the job Billy Preston and all George's friends do at the concert for George is pretty great. I'm a great Billy Preston fan and I think that young man in the video sounds some what similar.

Make sure you look up that video of Mike Bloomfield's guitar Bill. Pretty cool.

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Bill M

Here's a link to the video Norm posted about. Very good, but still can't touch His Georgeness's original. The singer is a Germany-based Trevor Jackson with a website at trevorjackson dot de where you can see and hear him sing "Purple Rain". Not to be confused with another singing/acting Indianapolist named Trevor Jackson at officialtrevorjackson dot com. The one in Norm's video sounds North American too, but possibly Canadian.

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brown eyed girl

Book Excerpt: Rocker Robbie Robertson’s ‘Testimony’
ZOOMER

Dylan and Robertson in Stockholm on their 1966 world tour photo I hadn't seen before, but maybe you have seen it

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brown eyed girl

The Band's Robbie Robertson to receive Lifetime Achievement Award from Canadian music industry
January 18, 2019

The Canadian Music and Broadcast Industry Awards is held annually during the Canadian Music Week conference
May 9, 2019.

Tickets for the gala dinner, which will take place at Toronto’s Rebel Entertainment Complex, can be purchased at CMW.net.

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brown eyed girl

PBS films tackles Native American links to rock, blues, jazz
BY RUSSELL CONTRERAS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Posted Jan 19, 2019

“RUMBLE: The Indians Who Rocked the World”

Airs online and on most PBS stations Monday January 21, 2019

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Norm

Subject: George Harrison Tribute

I found a youtube video everyone should watch, (I guess I'll have to get Jan to teach me how to attach a link).

This tribute is filmed and recorded in a bar in Legnano, Italy called Marein Platz. It is quite over whelming to watch. It says "by Family & Friends".

There is 3 drummers, about 5 guitars, violins,cello, horns and backup chorus girls singing. A young black man with a wonderful voice sings. This probably the best cover of "My Sweet Lord" I have ever heard and seen. The bar is packed and very obviously all these people worship George Harrison.

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Peter V

The stand out track on that Uncut CD is "The Imperial" by The Delines. Annoyingly they're playing a small venue near me next month but (a) I can't go and (b) it's totally sold out.

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Peter V

I already had "Call Me When I'm BreathingAgain:" by William Tyler on the 2/2019 Uncut covermount CD, Boss Sounds. As usual, I've been listening to the covermount CDs in the car. It was one where I'd pressed replay, but I hadn't noticed who it was. No sign of Levon style drumming. It's beautifully played and gentle, but I have a few Windham Hill CDs which are very much the same. WhenI heard it first I just thought, "Windham Hill lives again."

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Norm

Subject: Those Pickers

You are absolutely right of course JQ. It has never been my intent to disrespect any of those. They named Danny Gatton "The Humbler" from a comment of Les Paul. He said, "Doesn't matter what style of music or whatever anyone else can play he can do it, and he can do it better." He makes everyone humbler, I'm sure you know Roy Buchanan was his mentor. I hope they are cuttin' heads some where up there.

I am not much of a guitar player myself. (I have had the opportunity to play with some great ones.) So I know what I'm watching and hearing. Danny Gatton did things with a guitar that astounded real guitar players. In his own "humble way", he just said, "it takes a long, long time, but it is satisfying. Almost as good as sex!" His friends agreed that he suffered for many years from depression which they believe is why he took his life.

There is a song "Friday 5 'till Sunday Closing time!"............here is the Friday 5: Al Stewart...........Year of the Cat

Grace Potter.......I'd rather go blind

England Dan & John Ford Coley....It's sad to belong

Gerry Rafferty..........Baker Street

Gatlin Brothers, Roy Orbison & Barry Gibbs.............Indian Summer

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JQ

The number of renowned players born or residing in that area is pretty amazing: Roy Buchanan, Bill Kirchen, John Fahey, Skunk Baxter & Jorma K. And that doesn’t count the great bluegrass musicians and groups from there like The Country Gentlemen, The Stanley Brothers and The Seldom Scene. Eva Cassidy & Duke Ellington are from there too.

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Norm

Subject: Mike Bloomfield's Telecaster

This question is particularly for Pat Brennan or Bill Munson, or anyone else who may know this guy.

Dan Erlewine played guitar for a band called "The Prime Movers". I would guess him to be about my age. I came upon him looking at guitar rebuilding. One of his videos. "Patching a big hole in a '53 Telecaster". I learned a lot and the job he does is incredible rebuilding guitars that people have carved up and altered.

The video "Mike Bloomfield's Telecaster" I'm sure everyone would get a kick out of. This is the telecaster Mike used in the sixties, and in particular on "Highway 61 Revisited". This fellow Dan is really cool as he knows a lot about those years. The hilarious part is Mike sold this guitar to (I forget his name) a left handed guitar player. He couldn't get far enough up the neck so he had a guy put the guitar through a band saw and cut out the top side! You need to see the video the guitar is the most gawd awful thing. However, not long after this video was made, (because it was Mike Bloomfield's guitar) it sold for $45,000.......

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Norm

Subject: Oh and by the way!

I forgot to mention something a while back. Every one has their favourites and there are the "experts" who get to decide (in their mind) who are the best guitarists, drummers, etc.

Some say no one can play like Hendrix. Well look on youtube and listen to Danny Gatton play "Harlem Nocturne". It shouldn't even be played on a guitar, but.......You have never heard anything like it.....goodbye.

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Bill M

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NorthWestCoast

Subject: CHRISTMAS !!!!

Just when Peter V thinks he has survived Christmas once again comes this: I have listened as many versions as possible on this fantastic English carrol 'God rest ye merry, gentlemen'. Several exemples even as Celtic version. That is music!

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Peter V

Subject: Village Green Preservation Society

Just posted my LONG review of The Kinks Are The Village Green Preservation Society. Is it indeed "The Best British Album of 1968"? LINKED

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Peter V

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Dunc

The YouTube clip on Pete Best,s drumming is well done.

I had never heard of John James and Pete Berryman, Peter. I spent some time on John James’s site, where he has re-recorded some of the songs to celebrate an anniversary of Sky In My Pie. Never heard it before. Perhaps another buy coming on. (I’m trying to control the collection to 11 shelves, but the beast keeps breaking out.)

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JQ

Hi Peter V - In the February MOJO, page 84, there’s a short bit on his new album. He’s a collaborator with Jake X Fussel; he’s all over Jake’s first album. There’s also a brief shout to Levon in the review. It’s an instrumental record and, based on what I had previously heard of his playing, it should be a good one.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

RIOT MATERIAL
ART. WORD. THOUGHT

An Interview With Rumble’s Executive Producer Stevie Salas

MAY 1, 2018 BY CYNTHIA BIRET

BIRET: "The other important story point of the film is when Robbie Robertson shares the warning from his mother: “Be proud to be an Indian, but be careful whom you tell.” Did you (Stevie Salas) have a similar upbringing?"

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brown eyed girl

A TRIBUTE TO LEVON HELM
April 14 @ 8:30 pm - 11:00 pm
Hugh's Room
Advance $40 / Door $45 *
* Advertised pricing excludes taxes and fees.

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John D

Subject: Andy White

Reading Peter's piece on Love Me Do, I thought I would share an old link; from Rolling Stone to the death of Andy White; from November of 2015.

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Peter V

An analysis of Pete Best's drum part in Love Me Do on YouTube linked.

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Peter V

From The Times, last week. Excellent article on drumming by Stewart Copeland of The Police. He has suggested earlier that Fats Domino’s The Fat Man was the first rock & rll record in 1949, because it has a distinctive backbeat from Earl Palmer on drums. Then he turns to Ringo:

Ringo Starr is the ultimate “feel” drummer and so far nobody has invented a way of capturing his feel. He brought in a lot of composition, he played the backbeat, but like any master he also broke the rules. (Earl) Palmer would set up a groove and sit there for the duration, but Ringo changed all that. Listen to three versions of “Love Me Do” that you can hear on YouTube. The first version features Pete Best and it sounds crap, just a lack of expertise throughout. The next version has Ringo, and now it sounds like The Beatles, although nothing has changed apart from the drummer. For a third recording, they used a session drummer (my note actually the second and it was Alan White) and that is the famous version. The session drummer is holding the beat, but the charismatic quality comes from the tambourine part. Guess who’s playing the tambourine? Ringo.

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Dunc

Thanks, Norm. enjoyed the suggestions. I had Albert Lee's first solo album on cassette. Remember them. If I remember correctly, great guitar playing, but I felt his choice of songs could be better. Long time ago.

Thanks Bill M. Two good songs and he still has a strong Glasgow accent. I noticed the name of the Canadian folk magazine is 'Penguin Eggs', the great album we recently discussed on here.

Last five (six) played. Back to default position. This band can't be beaten...perhaps equaled.

Music From Big Pink

The Band

Stage Fright

Cahoots

Rock of Ages - love the songs with the horns.

Moondpg Matinee - great musiicianship. When I bought this album, the only song I knew on it was 'The Third Man'. I made a pilgrimage to go on the Big Wheel in Vienna.

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John D

Peter that is very sad news. A great vocalist both on stage and doing session work.

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Peter V

Sad news, I saw her with Leon Russell in 1971. An astonishing vocalist.

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brown eyed girl

Bonus DVD from The Bootleg Series Vol. 13: Trouble No More 1979–1981

"The film consists of live footage of Bob Dylan and Clyde King performing gospel music during a 1980 tour.

The film also features actor Michael Shannon in the part of evangelical preacher giving sermons that appear between songs throughout the film."

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brown eyed girl

Clydie King, Top-Tier Backup Singer, Is Dead at 75

"Clydie King and Bob Dylan in “Trouble No More,” a 2017 film featuring footage from Mr. Dylan’s 1980 tour.

“In a statement to the news media on the occasion of Ms. King’s death, Mr. Dylan said: “She was my ultimate singing partner. No one ever came close. We were two soul mates.”

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Bill M

Subject: David Francey

Dunc: The link is to an article about a successful Scottish-born Canadian singer-songwriter, David Francey. I'm surprised he's kept the accent, if he's not just putting it on for the song, since he went through highschool in Toronto, in fact the same highschool that I attended for a single year the year after he'd graduated.

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Norm

Subject: Chet Atkins - Objectives

JQ, Chet Atkins caused a lot of Ruckus in Nashville because when he took over the recording production, (as country music sales declined) he tried to broaden the appeal and win more of a pop audience over.

What he did was take all the fiddles and steel guitars out of country music. In the butting heads he drove those guys like Willie and Waylon out of Nashville and they all went to Austin, Texas where they were welcomed to play "country music". A person can only handle so much Chet Atkins music never mind how talented he is.

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Peter Viney

Yes, I didn't play every track on "Solo Flight" because I didn't feel any great desire to hear "Autumn Leaves" picked out. Georgie Girl was good though.

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JQ

Chet A was a deeply talented, accomplished and artistic gent. But he, as the main Nashville power cat for years, was also strictly biz oriented. I don’t really get it but he was responsible for so much crap commercial country music and also for blocking anybody that didn’t conform to the rigid parameters of music row, like back then, Willie Nelson and Waylon Jennings, that new and outlaw crowd. Go figure.

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Norm

Subject: PETER!!!!

Well Peter, have you never heard Chet Atkins play two songs at once? Dixie on three strings and Yanky Doodle on the other three. Does a couple others that way too. They are on youtube, just search "Yanky Doodle Dixie"

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Peter V

Subject: Chet's Mercy

There's a very crackly YouTube of "Mercy Mercy Mercy" by Chet Atkins. As the sleeve points out, it sounds like a duet with a bass player. It isn't. Just Chet.

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Peter V

Cover Me: The Eddie Hinton Songbook (Ace)

Sky in My Pie" John James & Pete Berryman, 1972 acoustic guitar classic

The Garden of Jane Delawney: Trees

On The Shore: Trees

Solo Flight: Chet Atkins - using a guitar with bass strings on the A & E strings, both tuned as a bass guitar. I saw the secondhand vinyl (like new) and bought it because he covers Mercy, Mercy, Mercy and Music To Watch Girls By. Both favourites.

Trees are often compared to their contemporaries, early Fairport Convention. I'd say that while the lead voice is very folk female and some songs are even folkier, the approach is more Jefferson Airplane at other times than Fairport.

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Band Film

So Jan; who are the film makers?

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Norm

Subject: History

Gawd damn furiners! Can't understand a word they're saying :-)

There is 54 pages there for crying out loud! I'm going to be here a long time.

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jh

Dag,

Kan du kontakte meg? Jeg finner ikke noen fungerende e-post adresse her. Gjelder bidrag til en ny drama-dokumentar om gutta våre.

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Pat B

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Dag B.

Link: goo.gl/EZNCcd

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan and The Band Unknown Location March 1967
May 7, 2018

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brown eyed girl

19 Photographs – December 1-2,1975
Bob Dylan – Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto
...and I was there! Electric time for sure. But not sure if I saw this show first or the one I saw in Niagara Falls, NY.

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brown eyed girl

April 13, 1966 – Bob Dylan/The Hawks Australia
12 Videos
30 Photographs
April 12, 2018

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan – Old Newspaper Clippings – Part- 3
January 6, 2018

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brown eyed girl

14 Old , Bob Dylan Newspaper Clippings (Part -2)
December 28, 2017

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brown eyed girl

Former co-worker sent this article. Her own brother is part of this recovering addicts group.

New Note: The addicts who found Solace in music
By Kev Geoghegan
BBC Music reporter
4 December 2018

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan Old Newspaper Clippings (Part -1)

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Norm

Subject: Boogie Woogie

In 2009 a guy who calls himself "Horsjeu" put this video on youtube. Danny Gatton plays Boogie Woogie with a can of beer. Actually it's a bottle of beer. You get to see some of the things he really can do.

As well as Danny Gatton in this video, the guy playing piano & sax is KILLER as well as the standup bass player. It is something to watch his right hand on that bass.

This boogie woogie has always been my favourite music to listen to or play.

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Misty

I thought the line about altitude was; to see below the surface, you must adjust your altitude..

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Norm

Subject: Blue Grass & Country

Hey Dunc......I been busy. I noticed back there a way your comment re country music. When I mentioned "North Country" to you, that is just the name of the band. We were discussing blue grass and they are a very young blue grass band and pretty much the best I have heard.

I had an occasion the other day to be discussing guitar players with some others who really know. So here is a little bit of education for you. On youtube, search a video "The Humbler Danny Gatton" watching this video you get to understand the purest talent, dedication to excellence by hard, hard work. You will get to see what other very well known and renowned guitar players say about Danny Gatton. Danny Gatton took his own life many years ago. He had his own demons as they say. But listening to his peers talk about him, it puts people like Eric Clapton in the back seat.

There is a youtube clip you can play "Danny Gatton plays Sun Medley" it used to be a video, now for some reason you only get the audio. Delbert McClinton sings Mystery Train and all the other Elvis Sun songs (better than Elvis for my money) and Danny Gatton plays those licks better than Scotty Moore, James Burton or anyone else. With due respect to the Band, their cover of Mystery Train pales compared to this and Robbie Robertson would get lost playing with Danny Gatton.

There is another video of Vince Gill singing "Little Eliza Jane", he is cuttin' heads with Albert Lee and Danny Gatton you can just see in the looks of the faces of Vince and Albert what they think of Danny's playing.

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Norm

Subject: Here I am!

Hey Dunc......I been busy. I noticed back there a way your comment re country music. When I mentioned "North Country" to you, that is just the name of the band. We were discussing blue grass and they are a very young blue grass band and pretty much the best I have heard.

I had an occasion the other day to be discussing guitar players with some others who really know. So here is a little bit of education for you. On youtube, search a video "The Humbler Danny Gatton" watching this video you get to understand the purest talent, dedication to excellence by hard, hard work. You will get to see what other very well known and renowned guitar players say about Danny Gatton. Danny Gatton took his own life many years ago. He had his own demons as they say. But listening to his peers talk about him, it puts people like Eric Clapton in the back seat.

There is a youtube clip you can play "Danny Gatton plays Sun Medley" it used to be a video, now for some reason you only get the audio. Delbert McClinton sings Mystery Train and all the other Elvis Sun songs (better than Elvis for my money) and Danny Gatton plays those licks better than Scotty Moore, James Burton or anyone else. With due respect to the Band, their cover of Mystery Train pales compared to this and Robbie Robertson would get lost playing with Danny Gatton.

There is another video of Vince Gill singing "Little Eliza Jane", he is cuttin' heads with Albert Lee and Danny Gatton you can just see in the looks of the faces of Vince and Albert what they think of Danny's playing.

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b.lee

Subject: What if God was watching what I am...

Maybe Edie Brickell and Joan Osborne could be the start of a list of existential one-hit wonders? Not that Ms. Osborne has not gone on to do some great work, just not hit-parade material. She is coming to town in April billed as "Sings the Songs of Bob Dylan". Could be interesting.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Previous post...Ok last 6....

“If Your Memory Serves You Well: Levon Helm, Robbie Robertson and the Story of The Band

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brown eyed girl

Bill M...Yeah, I was going to post those lyrics but I didn't want to get too deeeeep first thing in the morning.

Last 5
Caravan...Van Morrison and The Band...One of THE best performances at TLW!!!!

My Back Pages...Dylan 30th Anniversary...Favourite part when Eric Clapton sings...
A self-ordained professor's tongue
Too serious to fool
Spouted out that liberty
Is just equality in school
Equality, I spoke the word
As if a wedding vow
Ahh, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now

Just Like That...Toots and The Maytals
Walima 'Mabele...Juluka...They were performing in 2004/5 while I was in Capetown, South Africa...same time as JT and we were in the same suburb...but I never made show.... :-(

Let's Do It Again...The Staple Singers...Always great shows. First time I saw them with Pops Staples at Harbourfront. It was a spiritual experience to witness I'll Take You There for the very first time in person!! Second time was at Kitchener's Blues Fest with partner. I was up front and centre taking many photos. I swear Mavis looked right at me. ;-D Third time I was hanging outside her show with partner at City Hall outdoor show. Someone saw me with my camera and let me in the show so I could take better photos. Yup. Sometimes I'm a lucky person for sure. :-D

Miss You...Rolling Stones Concert For NYC...One of the few times Mick swears in a song.

ROBBIE ROBERTSON ON WRITTEN IN MY SOUL WITH BILL FLANAGAN

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

In 1988 I bought Paul Simon's partner's CD...Edie Brickell & New Bohemians - What I Am.

Oh, I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean

Philosophy is a walk on the slippery rocks
Religion is a light in the fog
I'm not aware of too many things
I know what I know, if you know what I mean, d-doo yeah

Choke me in the shallow water
Before I get too deep

What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?
What I am is what I am
Are you what you are or what?

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Bill M

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Dunc

Subject: Just too much great music

Really enjoyed the track, Bill M. Went on to play the song next to it on YouTube too. For some reason, it made me think of John Martyn. Layers of music maybe. Referring to your earlier post, I still play the albums I cherish. I always find something new in the Brown album, which is the album I play the most.

There's just too much great music. I really like Willow Springs by Michael McDermott. Bob F (Hi Bob) put me in touch with him. A Marmalade track today made me think of him.

And Peter (Hi Peter) gave me examples of work by Eleanor McEvoy. Again, great stuff. I seemed familiar with the name, but had definitely never heard any of her work.

I googled a couple of weeks ago and found out that she had written the title track 'Only A Woman's Heart', which was the title track of 'A Woman's Heart', the best selling Irish album of all time. Six females appear on the album - Eleanor McEvoy, Mary Black, Frances Black, Sharon Shannon, Dolores Keane and Maura O'Connell.

I have a big collection of Maura O'Connell, who started off as an Irish folk singer then moved to Nashville to work with the likes of Jerry Douglas and Bela Fleck. Is that part of a bluegrass revival? Where is Dlew? I got into her through Transatlantic Sessions. She is a beautiful singer, who I have now seen. Brilliant live. I remember Bob W (Hi Bob) telling me she appeared in The Gangs of New York.

So just too much music. I have a retirement wish to play three albums a day, until I ...well you know. As Lyle Lovett might say, 'I'm the guy sitting next to you on the train with the Sony and the big headphones.'

I'm playing Marmalade the sixties just now. I can understand why Hendrix liked 'I See The Rain' because I can see what he might have done with it.

So just too much good music and I am going to curtail my collecting habits...ach, I think I'm going to buy an Eleanor McEvoy.

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brown eyed girl

Paul Simon: 'I don't believe in legacy'
Amanpour

In part 2 of their conversation, he tells Christiane Amanpour that he doesn't believe that "there's any importance" to his legacy. Source: CNN

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brown eyed girl

Peter V...In case you missed Paul Simon interview.
Paul Simon: At times, I'm just a conduit for the music Amanpour
"In part 1 of their conversation, the singer-songwriter tells Christiane Amanpour that at the best of times, he shapes a song, "but you're absolutely surprised at what's happening, and you don't know why."Source: CNN

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Bill M

Subject: "Nomad"

Dunc: Had this Geoffrey Oryama track on the player five minutes ago. I've had the CD for ages, and it - this especially - still moves me, especially the key line "Good walking leaves no track behind it.) Seemed to me to be something that'd you'd like.

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Bill M

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Bill M

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Ohsweken, Ontario, Canada. 14th Oct, 2017. Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Robbie Robertson (pictured with daughter Delphine) along with many other photos receives a lifetime achievement award by Six Nations Chief Ava Hill at Six Nations Convention Centre. Credit: Brent Perniac/AdMedia/Newscom/Alamy Live News - Image ID: KEC5N

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brown eyed girl

July 10: Robbie Robertson shares his favourite memories from recording Music From Big Pink
Q with Tom Power

July 10, 2018 23:17
On the 50th anniversary of The Band's debut album Music From Big Pink, Robbie Robertson discusses the
album's legacy, its iconic songs and the musical landscape of the late 60s.

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brown eyed girl

First interview I've seen with Robbie Robertson wearing cap.

Last Five
Christine...Garland Jeffreys
I'm Sticking With You...Velvet Underground
Tupelo Honey/Why Must I Always Explain..Van Morrison and Bob Dylan
Part Of Me...Katy Perry
Where I Go...Natalie Merchant

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Dunc

Didn’t know that at all, Peter.

The version of the CD of Cahoots I play finishes with a radio advert for the album.

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Peter V

Back On The Road by Marmalade was also the only Decca 45 with an advert for a band's album (Songs) on the reverse. 1971!

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Peter V

Back in the 60s we had the Home Championship in football every year- four teams – England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. They were the most passionate encounters of the year. It ran for 100 years from 1883 to 1983 (I consulted Wiki, not my memory!)

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Dunc

Dean Ford, original name Thomas McAleese, lead singer of Marmalade, died on the 2 of January aged 72.

Marmalade were huge in Scottish terms and had a number 1 covering the Beatles 'ObLa Di La Da' in 1969. This was the first time a Scottish band had had a Number 1 hit. I remember the excitement this caused at the time.

But this song maybe gives a wrong impression of them. I saw them in the largest hall in my town in the early seventies, when I was seeing bands like Taste, The Nice, The Who, Family, Jethro Tull etc.

Dean Ford wrote the brilliant Reflections Of My Life, which was a big hit on both sides of the Atlantic. What great musicianship, with the highlight being the guitar solo.

I did not know this until a few years back, but the song is important to many Vietnam vets. The lyrics would have a connection.

'The World Is A Bad Place, A Bad Place, A Very Bad Place, A Terrible Place To Live But I Don't Wanna Die'

No less than Jimi Hendrix called the Marmalade song I See The Rain the 'best cut of 1967'.

The band seemed to be able to work in differing genres - touring with The Who and duetting with Bobbie Gentry.

They began on the dance hall scene like our guys, calling themselves Dean Ford and the Gaylords, after an American prohibition gang.

Their highlight was playing at the Scotland - England international in front of 133 245 people in 1964. Just to remind you Peter and Roger, Scotland won 1-0.

But like The Band, they practised and practised. They were excellent musically and had a residency at The Marquee.

Dean Ford RIP.

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John D

Thank you Peter.

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brown eyed girl

5 Iconic Songs Written By Robbie Robertson
LAURA GRANDE | JULY 4TH, 2018

John D... Great that you mentioned Cobi. Now she has to be the youngest Band fan for sure. I think all of us were at the Horseshoe Tavern to see Ollabelle. Maybe the night you met her? I was with Mr. Maximus. Another time Cobi and I were at the same show to see Johnny Johson and The Weber Brothers . I was with green eyed girl. Cobi thought she was me. Right away my friend so no I'll show you who knows the music of The Band. green eyed girl is like a magnet as she always has a huge smile on her face. She's also the one who with her partner at the time would have punk nights in a church basement. She was really a Mod. Also some of her buddies from school were from L'Etranger and Skydiggers so although The Band were not on her radar music always was on her radar.

The Band and Food... FORBIDDEN FRUIT. While partner and I were in Simcoe for Rick Danko Tribute we checked out a restaurant for lunch. I saw on the white board FORBIDDEN FRUIT smoothie for 3.00.

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Peter V

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Peter V

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John D

Is it my Mac or has the Guestbook page stretched out to full screen. Can't find the same problem on other sites. Anyone else notice.

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John D

Have looked for it on Amazon. Nothing there. I'll keep searching. Thanks for the info.

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Rod

I still listen to Cahoots quite a bit. The songs seem musically more complex than Stage Fright and maybe an attempt to re-capture the sophistication of The Band or MFBP. (I think Garth complained about this at the time). The only songs I would drop are Smoke Signal and Volcano.

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Landmark

Hey Joe, I just got back from a quick trip to Carbonear. Too short a time to find time to look you up but we stayed at a lovely B & B, that opened up specially for us. They also have a top notch dining room that is open year round. We were quite taken with the beauty of the place.

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joe j

My wife thinks he's like me in so many ways. This may not be all good.

You may want to check out the Kubasonics on Youtube, one of Newfoundland's more prominent Ukrainian bands.

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b.lee

Subject: Making of...

Brian, Rhino released the making of "The Band The Band" (actual title) as part of their Classic Albums series. Copyright dates are 1997. "A co-production with BBC, NCRV, VH-1, Eagle Rock Entertainment and This Band Inc." At 75 minutes, it likely includes content that Axs does not show. UPC is 14381-5846-2. Not listed on Rhino's website, so apparently out of print. (After 20 years, not surprising.) There is also another issue of it in 2005, Eagle Vision ‎– EV30101-9 (US) which may be only 59 minutes listed on discogs dot com. ebay shows several entries with cover variations (search The Band DVD). All say "From Germany"; there may be region code issues?

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Brian Clarke

Does anyone know if there are copies of this production for sale and how to purchase it?

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Dunc

I played Cahoots and enjoyed it after the recent posts. The problem for Cahoots is also that it follows three brilliant albums.

Thanks, Norm for musical links, and you had me thinking country, but I’m not an expert on country. In addition to playing Cahoots, I played the last five country albums, which I play regularly.

Lyle Lovett Lyle Lovett

Willie Nelson and Ray Price Run That By Me One More Time

Asleep At The Wheel Western Standard Time

Steve Earle and the Del McCoury Band The Mountain

John Prine For Better Or Worse - very new to me, but really enjoy this album.

Great Stuff

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Bill M

NwC: Good of you to nod in the direction of Sundog. Great guy full of positive energy, it seemed to me. I like that he pops in here every five years or so to say hi.

Norm: Wikipedia has a "Night Moves" entry that tells the story, if inconsistently and at times illogically. The gist of it is that most of the Silver Bullet Band had left Toronto by the time Seger got around to recording the song - causing producer Jack Richardson to call in keyboardist Doug Riley, who called in local guitarist Joe Miquelon and singers Sharon Lee Williams, Rhonda Silver and Laurel Ward, Silver and Ward having been members of the original lineup of Dr Music.

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John D

Talking to relatives of Cobi's over on Facebook. I was raised a block away; from her Dad.

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Norm

Subject: Night Moves

Bill, I've always found it interesting how Bob Seger recorded Night Moves up there in Toronto but nine of the songs of that album he did with the Muscle Shoals rythmn section. Never did hear any reasoning for that.

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Peter V

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John D

Peter, Bill M can jump in here as well; but growing up 30 miles east of Toronto albums were either 3.98 or 4.98. That's my memory of album prices in the 60's.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Rick Danko / Tim Sundog

This post makes no one happy but OK ... it is gb history. - Tim was the last gber to see Rick Danko performing live only for a few days before he did past away. Tim took photos and posted them in gb. I wonder if those photos are still somewhere here. Probably not. Better so, maybe. They were a pain to see for many people because Rick was not feeling very well. Somehow ... these pics showed the appreciation we feel. Regardless!

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Joining Cahoots

Thanks for mentioning 'Cahoots'. It reminds me of the former GB regular Tim(SUNDOG). He said: "It should be played out loud, like rock'n'roll". My favourite is 'The River Hymn', which naturally shouldn't be played out loud. Most gbers think that it shouldn't be played AT ALL. You have already posted it, thank you. It is in archives.

Last time I met Tim Sundog was in Las Vegas where he lives. (Actually, I have never met the guy nor been in Vegas, but this sounds so "rock'n'roll", don't you think?)

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Peter V

Thanks, Bill. The elaborate backing and gentle treatment enhances the song, I agree. I found the lead singer's voice too mannered though.

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Peter V

Mike Love has much to say on contracts for The Beach Boys. As The Band were also on Capitol, I'll reproduce his comments:

MIKE LOVE: Our contract with Capitol was typical. The publisher who owned and administered the copyrights received 5% of retail price, which was then split with the songwriter. It took me years to know who the Beach Boys publisher was, or even what the publisher did. The artist received 5% of the remaining 95%- in our case, we had five performers, so we each received 20% of 5% of the 95%. Albums back then sold for about $3 which meant the publisher received 15 cents for every unit sold, and each Beach Boy received abut 3 cents an album. By its own estimates, after expenses, Capitol netted $1.80 for each album … (then) Capitol deducted the cost of the recording sessions from artist payments, so if an album cost $10,000 to record, the artist wouldn’t see a nickel until the ten grand was paid back. END QUOTE.

I wondered whether $3 was the retail or wholesale price of an album in the early 60s? Anyone enlighten me? If its retail, Capitols $1.80 plus 30 cents for publisher and artist combined, seems high. The shop selling it would be taking at least 20% back then (33% nowadays) and they still had to manufacture it and put it in a sleeve. I don’t know about vinyl, but with CDs and DVDS the packaging costs more than the CD.

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Bill M

Subject: "Where Do We Go From Here"

Peter V: I always liked "Where Do We Go From Here", though the linked dreamy version is the one that comes to mind first. It's by a long-running local group called Dr Music, and was played often by John D and his fellow DJs on CHUM-FM when it appeared in the early '70s. Most of the members were contemporaries of our guys, and a couple have reasonably close connections. Singer Doug Mallory was from around Brantford, I believe, so would have been doing the southwestern Ontario circuit at about the same time. Saxman (and the most apparent of the background vocalists) Steve Kennedy was the band-leader at the Blue Note afterhours club on Yonge Street for the key five years of 1960-'65 so would have shared the stage with visiting Hawks among others. And Doug 'Dr Music' Riley - group leader, arranger, organist and pianist - played with the replacement Hawks, aka Robbie Lane and the Disciples, before going on to do tons on interesting projects, including being the keyboardist (and band contractor) on Bob Seger's "Night Moves" single. Riley was called Dr Music because DR Music was the name on the door of his jingle company, but he also had more formal education (musical and otherwise) of anybody on the local rock-pop scene, with a master's degree in ethnomusicology - major paper: traditional dance steps of the Mohawks of Six Nations or some such thing.

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

Hey Bill M. And I previously posted this article about Bill Avis.

PETERBIO: Bill Avis
As road manager for Ronnie Hawkins, and later, The Band, this Peterborough resident has uniques memories but it’s his friendship with the late Levon Helm he treasures most

"It was in 1967, in Rouyn-Noranda, Quebec, that a woman working at a pharmacy caught his attention and kept it.

Asked to manage the swanky Radio Hotel in Rouyn-Noranda, it was decision time for Mr. Avis -- stay with Helm et al or do a complete 180.

“I was thinking all the time of that little French lady over there,” says Mr. Avis, motioning to Jeannine in the other room.

“I thought, ‘Screw the road.’”

The couple were married in 1970. Mr. Avis stayed, off and on, with the Radio Hotel for the next two-and-a-half years before the couple moved back to Toronto.

“People still have strong memories of where they were at the time these songs came out. But there’s also a whole generation of young people who have an appreciation for the music. As long as people want them, these songs won’t go away. Robbie (Robertson) wrote great songs but Levon fed him about how it was in the Delta. One needed the other. It was a very unique partnership.”

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Bill M

BEG: Thanks for posting the article about Bill Avis, which is pretty interesting. We all know the general context (Hawkins Dylan Last Waltz), but there are some have-to-be-there nuggets. Like Avis being a Torontonian who first saw Hawkins and the Hawks at the Concord (i.e., Jerry T's father's bar). Like Hawkins having to take a couple weeks off in '62 or '63 to attend to personal business in Arkansas for a couple weeks, at which point Harold Kudlets booked the Hawkins-less Hawks, who needed to work to eat, into the Radio Hotel in Rouyn, perhaps their first gig without Ronnie. Like Avis and a local young woman hitting it off and marrying (eventually giving birth to son Jerome, who we've all heard about). Like Avis spending a year or so later in the sixties managing the Radio Hotel, which has been replaced by a Tim's (like so many other iconic sites).

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brown eyed girl

Robbie Robertson - the man who knew too much
By Hugh Fielder July 05, 2017 Classic Rock

Robbie Robertson on being Bob Dylan’s right-hand man, Eric Clapton’s inspiration and Martin Scorsese’s favourite songwriter

Last Five
Don't Dream It's Over... Crowded House
You Make Me Feel Mighty Real... Slyvester
The Letter... Joe Cocker
I'll Rise... Ben Harper
Trusting Old Soul... Steve Forbert

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brown eyed girl

Hmmm... .I tried to have this article translated but it didn't work. Maybe someone could help out? Great photos regardless. And yes, I've met Bill Avis also. I met him in Cobourg, Ontario when his son Jerome and Band were performing. It was here that Jerome told me to save up to attend a Ramble. Bill shed a little light on the Robbie and Levon dynamic. As Robbie has said many times... .Regardless of what transpired or didn't transpire; Levon was the closest to a brother that he never had. Having an older brother myself; I know very well how complicated a relationship that can be and yes, I also had to deal with money issues.

Bill Avis et The Band : épopée rock de l'hôtel Radio de Rouyn jusqu'à The Last Waltz Publié le jeudi 24 novembre 2016

JED... You are being too kind to a huge Raptor fan regarding last night's terrible game. Kudos to Demar who had a triple double for the first time in his career. After everything he went through he deserved to shine last night. I was extremely disappointed in the Raptors who did not step up at all. I see more and more why so many people love Pops Jed. I watched the interviews after the game and he was dismayed at the way fans treated Kwahi. Traitor? I loved how Pops had a private moment with Kwai at the end of the game and made sure the cameras could not hear what transpired... ... Danny Green of course was still shown love. Not surprising as he's the kind of guy you just want to be around as he exudes light and fun and just navigates with such ease with others in general. As far as Kwai's personality? Uhhhh, aren't you the Doc? I have read that his father owned a gas station in Demar's hometown of Compton, Cali. For some unknown reason his father was murdered when he was a teenager... ... just like that. Apparently he worked with his father at his Car Wash all the time... ... Just like Robbie's father... ... Unbelievable... ... :-((((((((((((( Other exceptional players such as Jimmy Butler and John Wall for example have different stories but similar in that they had to channel all their anger due to their life circumstances into their sport. Truly inspiring athletes. As Robbie said, it wasn't always about what happened on stage... ..court, etc. Everyone has a story and not everyone can overcome extreme odds against them. Those who overcame the odds because of natural talent, hard work... ..Heroes to their communities and to those of us who pay attention..

PAT B... . You could be the perfect stranger from Illinois. :-D

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Peter V

The Symbols were a "pure pop" band covering The Tremeloes and Four Seasons. Later Adrian Gurvitz joined them though. Mike Post who produced "Dixie" for "The Symbols" was working in the USA - I wonder if The Symbols (UK) - well known with listed discographies, is confused with another band. Especially as the Bell single is a US copy.

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Jed

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Pat B

The best of the season to all and especially our esteemed webmaster.

BEG, you are the greatest.

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Jed

Gregg Allman would say,at every concert,”y’all a great bunch here”. Well it’s true HERE. Much gratitude. BEG-in my thankfully rapidly diminishing pain,I caught Kawai’s 45 point masterful performance. OH MY! That guy is better than I even imagined-big game tonight vs. the ole spurs. I heard Kawaie only talks to one teammate-he’s awfully shy? Now about this GB and it’s people.i very often feel intimidated here-this is one smart and knowledgeable group of people-I simply read,at times,in awe.some of you are the smart kids in school that I always learned from-but from a distance-again-I was intimidated. So now I see all you smarties are awfully thoughtful and kind too. And I’m deeply grateful. Go back to the music-I’m listening.

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Bill M

Subject: TNTDODD by the Symbols

A bit more digging yields the link - seems to be a different group, which makes m more sense on all sorts of grounds, including the involvement of Mike Post.

Also the UK Symbols have a Wikipedia listing that does not mention either 1970 or TNTDODD.

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brown eyed girl

Days Gone By.

Very sorry to hear your news Jed. Excruciating pain is... excruciating. Thanks to my former Naturopath I saved an organ that was in attack mode from time to time. As far as not being noticed that's your perception but it's incorrect. As soon as I see your name I think of you as as one of the few posters who is also a Basketball fan as I am. I also respect the field you're in as it entailed many years of school and training as did JT. Your appreciation of music is loud and clear. And all your connections to Woodstock. Some of us post more to certain posters as we have actually met each other. Less mystery but more familiarity. Some of my female buddies who used to post were not interested in meeting anyone from the GB as they wanted to keep their fantasies percolating.

One of my favourite female posters who I met from this site was also an educator. We were supposed to see Garth and BARK at the Horseshoe Tavern once her visa came through. As it turned out Garth did not perform. Green eyed girl joined me. She really didn't know The Band but trusted my general taste in music once again... ..Anyway, my European Band fan's visa finally came through... She had lived in two countries in Europe where in one country she saw The Reformed Band in the late 90's and the report was not good at all. We ended up seeing Dylan together and we saw TLW when it was showing again. She refused to post anymore due to the sexism and the personal attacks. Everytime we would get together she couldn't believe that I still posted. I refused to be driven away as my passion for music was my shield.

Reflecting now... I guess I wanted my Band experience to be more than hiding behind a computer. Opportunities arose and I met Band fans from three countries and some from my own city. We are a community for sure. Laughing here as I just remembered how I met Crab. He was trying to create a feud with Robbie and Dylan... maybe they did have a fallout but... .I immediately emailed him of course not knowing anything about him... ..I was going to give him a piece of my mind... lol... .He loved controversy... lol... Again, the days when everyone knew everyone's email. Days gone by.

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Bill M

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Paint It Black by Africa

Of course, Paint it Black turns up on YouTube. Linked.

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Peter V

It arrived today. I'd never heard of it until Dag's excellent 1968 compilation. I read the ads there (produced by Lou Adler to) and ordered it. It was only £3.99. It's very good funky stuff. The combination of Louie Louie and Ode to Billie Joe in a medley is inspired, and Paint it Black is brilliant. Love the sleeve - a Big Pink pastiche right down to Next of Kin photo and sleeve note.

When I was compiling Band sessions, one that came up was Afrisa by Marion Brown. Someone asked Levon at the time and he had no memory of the session, the song or Marion Brown. I wonder if there was some confusion with this Music From Lil Brown by Africa. Sounds similar!

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Peter V

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Carl

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Carl (BONK)

Just recently I reconnected with a friend of mine, Brian from my childhood in Cabbagetown. I guess with others, Brian and I hung around from age 10 to 16. Very formative years. Man we thought we were something back then even though we were from the wrong side of the tracks. Fighting, music, sports and girls. Ahh, girls. None of us had a spare dime back then so we would do just about anything to make a few quid. Like shining shoes outside the old Brown Derby and Le Coq Dor on Yonge Street. Brian sent me a picture from about 1963/64 and there's ten of us in the picture. Laughing, roughhousing, and oh so young. We talked about 2 hours and just laughed our asses off at some of the things we did. We started into the old 'whatever happened to so and so' thing and realized that the ten in the picture plus the guy taking it are all gone except us two. When I hung up the phone I cried like a baby as I looked at the photo.

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Norm

Subject: Emotional Trauma

Christ .. JQ of course us older guys cry more! We got more to cry about! Not women they are tuffer than us.

Just the other day when I was tellin' youze guys I was going to marry Susan, you gave me shit and started blubbering... ... ..you cry baby!

It just seems that emotions are more near the surface now in these years. You have seen so much and understand things more that the expression is emotion. Even when yer happy. I got pictures just yesterday from my first x-wife of my two great grand children laying out in the snow in their snow suits and blanket. Noah is about three, holding his baby sister and hugging her. Now that makes me cry they are such sweet little folks.

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Lisa

Thanks! I needed that!

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Bill M

Rod: Look at the bright side - no winnings to be shared, so no drama, and no littering.

One of the CDs I received for Xmas was Robert Plant's "Dreamland" - some so-so originals and some brilliant covers - an absolutely "Skip's Song" (again I feel the loss of David P, who was always happy to discuss Moby Grape), the Youngbloods' "Darkness Darkness", and an impressive "Morning Dew". I just stopped in at the local bookstore to thumb through some magazines, one of which, "Shindig" has a nice two-page feature on Bonnie Dobson who credits Plant with returning that song to her.

Back in the day when the only real women in my life were my mother, my aunts, my friends' mothers and my teachers, the attractive women I saw on TV loomed large. Looming largest was Mary Tyler Moore as Laura Petrie, but for awhile there was also Bonnie Dobson, who'd moved home to Toronto I guess and got a feature part in what must've been a Molson's beer ad that appeared a couple times every time there was an NHL game on TV, which was twice a week.

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Rod

Went to the local country horse races yesterday. The final race had a horse called "Band". The odds were in my favour so I had a dollar each way. That nag finished way down the track unfortunately.

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JQ

PV brought out the hankies. At the coffee house I go to the young people there (40 somethings) tell me there’s a whole sad-song thing now that they go to in order to cheer up. I get that. This one just now killed me: Jesse Winchester’s - Every Day I Get The Blues (not the old blues song).

Do any of you older folks here, say 65+, cry more easily than before in your life? Is it bad blood flow or something else? We watched Casablanca on Christmas - I’ve seen it so many times I can recite virtually all of the dialog, seriously. So this year when the crowd and band in Rick’s struck up La Marseillaise, I had tears running and started a cough/bawl/snort sound that made the whole room look over to me, concerned like. WTF?

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Norm

Subject: Suzy

Good one Peter! A great example of what a beautiful woman Suzy is, and singer and performer as well. Judy Collins was praised to "own" Ian Tyson's song "Some Day Soon" but Suzy Bogguss is a cut above Judy for me.

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Suzy Boggus

OK, handkerchiefs out. No sniffing or tears. Suzy's best known one to me: "Letting Go"

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Norm

Subject: Suzy Bogguss & Little Projects

Bassman thanks for your comments on Suzy. It appears you are a fan like me.

As to your little projects! I almost had a hernia laughing. Getting shed of 3 remotes, I've gone thru it. But the best part is getting back up once yer on the floor. Happens to me all the time. I get down and I'm feeding wood into the fire and already in my head I'm formulating a plan to get back up again :-) :-)

Well we are discussing plans to sell the old homestead here. There are days when Susan's arthritis makes it very difficult to get up and down the stairs. She also has to drive back and forth to Port Hardy 5 days a week to go and work out in the gym and aqua-fit at the pool to keep herself mobile. That's a fourty minute drive and the road is like driving in Switzerland so I worry about her, (not to mention the gawd damn price of gas).

Also I can't keep my boats in this piss ant little marina so I'm driving back and forth to Port Hardy too. So there is a new subdivision in Port Hardy 5 minutes from the marina and where Susan works out. Beautiful view lots looking right down over the Strait to the mainland all across the water and the coast mountains. (All the area where I travelled for years) So I'm looking at having a modular home (single story rancher) built and put on a cement slab. Gas fire place as the arthritis in my hands is making it hard to cut wood. I guess I should go a little easier on my body for these "golden" years.

A beautiful area with hardly any houses so far amoung the trees on a hill over looking the water and "The Dock of the Bay".

This gettin' old is fun huh Bass Man?... ... .isn't it?

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Peter V

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Dunc

Great article, Bill M. I like the part about traditional music too. I think Liege and Lief and several Scottish musicians did it for me.

Listening to the end of Gene Clark and Carla Olson, whom I know nothing about. Absolutely brilliant. Their version of Phil Ochs' Changes is stunning. When it finishes, she who must be obeyed and I are going food shopping. I miss the Old New Years badly. It's all about Christmas now.

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Dunc

And HMV is in administration. This affects me because they own FOPP. But I haven't bought a lot this year. About 20 CDs.

And John Lewis has stopped selling DVDs. I don't use my Blueray player. I stream films now.

And the Vinyl shop in my home town is closing.

Yet according to what I have read, there are big developments in streaming technology.

Thanks, Norm. Will check them out.

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Bill M

Subject: Roddy Doyle on the Band

Maybe this nice low-key piece appeared earlier this year and was been noted by others here previously. But it's new to me. If I'm not mistaken the "West-End Pheonix" is a Toronto periodical started in what is now last year by the Rheostatics' Dave Bidini. Bidini has authored several books, including the worthy "On A Cold Road", which is partly the diary of a budget cross-Canada road tour by the Rheostatics, and partly a compendium of funny or frightening or educational road incidents shared by numerous (mostly) Canadian musicians - some, e.g., Amos Garrett, well known, others not so much.

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Peter V

I also have a QED amp with an incredibly noisy volume pot in the re-assembled system. It crackles violently. It’s OK if I turn it off, set a volume level, then turn it on. You just can’t use the volume control when it’s on. I’ve sprayed it with Servisol electrics cleaner daily, but it’s not getting to the problem. Pity the amp sounds very clean through Mission bookshelf speakers which are only 20 years old. My main hi-fi speakers are older. Then the Marantz CD player in the recently assembled system seems to have poor error correction.

Apparently there is a market in Japan for "collectible" stuff like the first Sony CDP-101 CD players from 1982. I have one in the garage. Also the first Betamax machines with the cool grey design. Trouble is, there's no market here.

Entered at Wed Jan 2 05:38:11 CET 2019 from (71.175.88.22)

b.lee

Subject: New year's Philly madness

While puttering about today, had the TV on showing the Philadelphia Mummer's parade. This was year 119. "Mummery" (sounds immoral, don't it?) is one part Mardi Gras, one part panto, two parts kitsch, and several parts "who let these whackdoodles out of the asylum". The parade lasts around six hours, then reconvenes at a convention center for the "Fancy Brigades" competition, elaborate large music and dance creations with flats, lighting and costumes, costumes, costumes.

Lost my link instructions. Search for "penn live mummers photos" for a good place to start. Article is a good primer on the tradition. Click through to the footage for a better idea of how this all works. I'm sure there will be scads on YouTube.

Bear in mind that there are no professionals involved. All design and fabrication, choreography, musical arrangements, etc. are done by volunteer members of the various clubs.

Entered at Wed Jan 2 05:10:30 CET 2019 from (71.175.88.22)

b.lee

Subject: Suzy Boggus and I Still Miss Someone

Norm, that cover appeared on a fine album she made with Chet Atkins, Simpatico, waaay back in 1994, (Almost 25 years ago would you believe!) Tasty pickin' indeed.

Spending time these days on little projects, at least when I have the energy. "Fixing a Crack" comes to mind. Still have not gotten to the rewiring of the living room "media center", trying to integrate new and old equipment in a way that does not require 9 steps and three remotes to do anything. Talking to a pawn shop owner the other day who says that they no longer buy much in the way of consumer electronics... things become obsolete too fast and he is left holding the bag. Reminded me of Dave Barry's line about computer stores. They should just put a big trash can at the end of the checkout line since whatever you just bought will be obsolete before you get out it the door!

Jed, hang in there. Look for small victories, which are easily lost worrying about the big picture. For example, yesterday I knelt on the floor, and was actually able to get myself back up again. There will be plateaus and minor setbacks, but one day at a time is more than a trite cliche. Take it easy and take it slow.

Entered at Wed Jan 2 05:09:18 CET 2019 from (74.12.48.181)

Bill M

I thought I would post an amusing tidbit from the new Band book, but then realised it actually comes from the glossy "Uncut" Band tribute to that I'd been plowing through before Christmas. The bit was how Willie Jeffries and other British Hawkins fanatics approached our guys during the Dylan/Hawks tour of the UK to implore them to drop Dylan and return to their roots. Just as folkies were imploring Dylan to drop the Hawks and return to HIS roots.

Entered at Tue Jan 1 18:36:32 CET 2019 from (208.181.205.134)

Norm

Subject: Bluegrass

Dunc, I had meant to tell you about a bluegrass band called, "North Country". These are kids and they are traditional. Five of them. However you should search on youtube, North Country singing "Sing Me Back Home" Merle Haggard's old tune. In this video there is only two kids. The boy playing dobro was only I think 14. He is from a little town on our coast here called Squamish. My older brother Howie plays guitar, mandolin and accordion and plays a lot of blue grass and played at festivals with this boy's father.

They have many videos and I'm sure you will like them. They are kind of based I believe in Seattle but are from all over the country.

Entered at Tue Jan 1 18:21:57 CET 2019 from (208.181.205.134)

Norm

Subject: Dunc of the high country!

Hey Dunc, I'm in agreement with you as far as Vince Gill and Eagles goes. He doesn't look right or sound right there. Everyone wants to of course keep playing some tunes but when it's over, it's over. Some guys just need to be gracious about it.

With the Band it was a different thing. They were all still very young and trying to put the Band back together made more sense.

I appreciate some of your suggestions as well. I really enjoy youtube. There is such a wealth of music and many wonderful surprises. I use that source in many different ways. Even to pick a song and then listen to and compare all the different covers.

A couple of nights ago I was comparing my favourite lady country singers. I listened to a cover Suzzy Boggus does of Johnny Cash's "I still miss someone". There are a few live vids of her doing this song. The particular one that tears your heart out is just her with her guitar, a stand up bass and a young guy with an acoustic who is a tasty picker. She is without a doubt, (to me) the greatest lady country singer.

This old Johnny Cash song I have sung pretty well all my life. Just one of the greatest feeling songs for the lyric and the music.

Entered at Tue Jan 1 14:48:48 CET 2019 from (2a00:23c5:3a10:fa00:4dcf:27fa:2635:fe25)

Dunc

A Guid New Year to Ane An' A'.

Good luck, Jed. Keep hanging together and fighting, Mate. Both my wife and I have suffered from awful pain in the past so we both empathise with you and understand what you are going through. I really like and value your posts from your neck of the woods. Fight the fight... and rest.

Thanks, Peter. I'll seek out that Uncut Magazine.

Enjoyed Youtube OK of Vince, Norm, but I don't see him as an Eagle. I like country and much prefer that last suggestion of yours, Roger Miller's son singing King of the Road. I really enjoy Willie, Kris, Del, Asleep at the Wheel and the bluegrass revival to Vince Gill.

And if you've not got it, the Gene Clark Carla Olson album is a must with many highlights. Just rereleased in UK this year. Isn't Deportee a moving song at this time?

Eagles playing in the background and the brilliant Gene Clark song, Train Leaves Here This Morning is playing. I love this song. Beautiful musicianship... and I noticed B Leadon has added his name to the credits. A bit mean?

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