The Band Guestbook, January 2021

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Lisa

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Ragtime

Jon Lyness, thanks for the link. Once (upon a time) there was another Terry Danko song on YouTube, with Richard Manuel singing one verse and Terry the other. It was posted by Terry's son and it was called "Any Time To Say Goodbye", if my memory serves me well. It turned out there came a time to say goodbye, the song simply disappeared from the net and I never found it back...

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Roger

Subject: RIP Hilton Valentine

The news today that Hilton Valentine - lead guitarist with The Animals has gone to that great gig in the sky. Hilton Valentine's musical legacy is the riff that opens and runs through The House Of The Rising Sun. This A minor arpeggio lick inspired as many new guitarists as Bert Weedon's Play In A Day. Maybe more. And the record itself is a phenomenon. Like Whiter Shade Of Pale, the first few bars are the touchnote for an era of music making as pop evolved into rock. I'm going to play it a few times today.

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Norm J

Subject: Canned Heat (A little more blues)

One of the best of Canned Heat and a note reminding how they came by that name.

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Norm J

Subject: How Charlie Patton Changed the Blues

Haven't thought of or listened to his music in a long time. In this bit of documentary it is really interesting how he came to start his recording.

Also very interesting, as he died very young he was buried in a field where there was no marking of his grave. There is now a very handsome head stone paid for and set there by John Fogerty. A tribute to the type of guy John is and how he seriously cares for the black men who pioneered the Blues.

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Jon Lyness

Subject: Richard Manuel singing a Terry Danko song...

Terry Danko has just posted an unreleased song called My Saving Grace on his Facebook page, and I think it's remarkable. It was co-written sometime in the 1980s with Richard and Marty Grebb, and Richard takes a gorgeous lead vocal. It sounds very much like what a stronger Band song might have sounded like in that era. If (like me) you've ever wished Richard recorded more in the 80s, you owe it to yourself to check this out. facebook dot com slash terry dot danko dot 16 (Jan, can you make this a link?)

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JQ

Hey Todd - There's a new one we just finished called Pretend It’s A City, which is a series of interviews with Fran Lebowitz, done by M Scorsese. She’s still very clever and there’s some good flashbacks too. I think it’s the second episode that features her relating some Charlie Mingus stories from the 70’s.

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haso

Subject: RAH review

Angie: just read your link to Mr. Londergan. I assume, since he was actually at RAH in 1966, that he's pretty well-known to such as Peter and the other UK folks here on the GB. How come such as he get the details so wrong sometimes? I'm compelled to point out that the soundstage w/ the Staples was after TLW, not before; that Garth is playing piano and Richard organ, not the other way around; and that Derek is Butch's nephew, not son. Jus' sayin'.

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Todd

Subject: The Dig

Peter V. Thanks for the heads-up on "The Dig" There's so much content on Netflix that it's sometimes difficult to find the good stuff, so thanks for doing the sorting. I'll read your review after I watch the movie, as I prefer not too know too much ahead of time.
But anything with Carey Mulligan & Lily James set in that time period gets my attention!

Thanks Jed! Stay warm everyone. I'm heading to upstate Vermont tonight. It's supposed to be 5 degrees below zero F by early tomorrow morning, brr!

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haso

Subject: Derek, etc

Todd: all is forgiven, at least from my point of view. And give EC's multiple comments about visiting the boys in Woodstock, his affinity for Richard, MFBP, even his on-going friendship w/ Robbie, there's certainly enough connection to discuss Layla & all that here on the GB. Again, my opinion only... JH & Peter V are likely the more deciding factors.

Angie: appreciate your recent links to Robbie and also Allbros related stuff. No doubt, Jed sounds to be our resident expert. In that light, Jed... any comment on the little Bobby Whitlock sentiment about the Allman's tight structure-live. Over many years of listening to them, that seems like a misconception. We always knew them to be one of, if not THE best band, live. Perhaps I need to listen more to the recent 3 cd production called "the 1971 Fillmore East recordings" or the Ludlow Garage recordings to see if Whitlock's opinion that they always played the same, live, carries weight. He seems to imply that he didn't think Duane could hold-up jamming w/ EC. I can't recall specifics, but remember many different musicians talking about how playing w/ the Allbros was like being in a jazz show and how much you had to be ready to improvise. That seems like the opposite of what Whitlock is saying. Curious how a different Derek (Trucks) and his spouse Susan Tedeschi would respond to Mr. Whitlock.

Separately, haven't some criticized our 5 for not playing enough live over their last 8 years as a Band? Which is not to say that they couldn't jam or improvise. In a way, isn't Garth one huge improvise, not that many others could keep up w/ his catalog of musical memory.

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Mike Nomad

I was about to watch this tonight, anyway. I enjoyed the review. Actually, I’ve enjoyed all your reviews. I have never said so. Thank you.

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Peter V

Subject: The Dig

Netflix keeps them coming. THE DIG (linked) started yesterday 29th January and is unmissable. Starring Ralph Fiennes, Carey Mulligan, Lily James, Johnny Flynn and Ken Stott. This is the story of the discovery of the Aglo-Saxon ship burual at Sutton Hoo in Sussex, taking place just before World War II started in 1939. It’s one of the best films I’ve seen in recent years. A slow burner, but great.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: The Weight: The Band; Aretha Franklin; the Allman Brothers Band

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brown eyed girl

10 Quirky things to know about the TORONTO MUSIC SCENE......

Cabbagetown, the mob, and Billie Holiday

"For 39 years the Winchester Hotel in Cabbagetown remained empty and in rough shape, until the second floor was revived in 2004 as the Laurentian Room. Now known as the Winchester Kitchen and Bar, the room still boasts many of the original fixtures and bar from when it was notorious gangster Al Capone's favourite Toronto joint to unwind at during the prohibition era, when he spent a fair amount of time in town building his bootlegging empire. In that era it featured regular burlesque performances, but also hosted shows by legendary jazz singer Billie Holiday"

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brown eyed girl

TORONTO’S MOST ICONIC MUSIC LANDMARKS
SPACES AND PLACES THAT HAVE SHAPED TORONTO'S MUSIC SCENE

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brown eyed girl

How Jimmy Carter (Literally) Rocked the Presidency
Before Clinton’s classic-rock love and Obama’s R&B shout-outs, the 39th president tapped into rock culture — and business — in a way no one had.
SEPTEMBER 8, 2020

TODD...Yes you got it right! I first started using the sayin' after I saw the film Dear John for the second time. I use it home at times as well. ;-D I saw Clapton in the seventies....forget it....late eighties early nineties with Bonnie Raitt...I only remember we were singing along to Cocaine and in 2013 at Eric's Guitar Fest. I remember JED thought at the time that the shows might exhibit too much testosterone for me.....no.....Some shows that did....Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young when they were lined up on stage in a line at one point......yuck!.......and when I saw The Hip at Massey Hall along with many other bands....However, I really do love So Hard Done By......but no show of course.

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Rod

I always liked the layla album so have enjoyed reading all the recent comments.EC has always seemed to be a bit of a musical drifter.

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Jed

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Todd

Subject: Sorry for turning this into the Derek & the Dominos GB!

I don't know what Bobby's motivation might have been for anything that he said about Duane that could be perceived as negative, but I think he knew that Duane was a talented cat.

There was a lengthy thread on the Steve Hoffman forums that Bobby Whitlock participated in about 10 years ago, and I think answering people's questions there inspired him to write his book. Just knowing that people were still interested and appreciated him, after many years of being out of the spotlight, seemed to give him a boost.

I was re-reading some of the thread recently, and saw this comment from Bobby about one of the only live shows that Duane played with D&D. It was somewhere in Florida.

"Just a note and a thought...I remember when Duane came out and played with us and how full and complete the sound was, and then when he left how that completeness went with him...There was a void that we quickly tried to fill with ourselves and it didn't work...I believe that had Duane continued with us that we would have had more structure and longevity...He was a born leader..He didn't demand respect, he had a command of his ability to lead so the respect for him was an added thing that came naturally...." BW c2008

So there may have been some issues, territorial or otherwise, but based on the comment above, it sounds like Bobby did indeed have an appreciation and understanding for what Duane contributed.....just sayin'.... (Did I do that right BEG?)

My overall thought is that they all contributed significantly, with their unique skills, to the overall success of the music that they made together, and that's what made it such a great album. Maybe 5 band members is the magic number!

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Pat B

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Tom G

Subject: Re; Duane's playing

Hi Jed, to clarify, Bobby said that Duane was a great partner of Eric's in the studio, but couldn't hold his own live. I agree, I think there's some jealousy and territorial stuff going on with Bobby. He does seem kind of possessive of Eric.

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Jed

Whitlock poses an interesting issue as to whether Duane can keep up with Eric. Eric,in his comments at the time and through the years,has held Duane in the highest esteem and as a perfect partner for him. Eric wanted Duane to join the Dominos and Bobby resented that. He seemed to be somewhat jealous of Eric’s musical infatuation with Duane and disappointed that Eric didn’t hold him him to the level he did with Duane. Duane was also a wildly charismatic cat and that had to play a role-let alone who was “partying”(crazy word for being a junkie)with who. As for Duanes chops:I’ve been listening to Duane and own his 6 cd box set as well just about as every thing he’s ever played on with or without the Allman Brothers. I’ve seen the Brothers without Duane over 100 times and have had personal relationships with band members.So I’m as jazzed up towards Duane and the Brothers as anyone can possibly be. So put simply-whitlock’s jealousy blinded him about Duane. He simply has no clue what he’s talking about. Duane could play with and as well as anyone. Bobby hasn’t listened to his complete body of work and acts like a petulant and spurned (musical)lover in his relationship to Eric. From before the Allman Joys through ALL his session and solo work,whether on slide or fingerpicking Duane was unique. Yes-at times he went out of tune. But out of tune,he still sounded better than 99% of guitarists. He was also a musical genius and bandleader. For once,Rolling Stone got it right when they voted him 2nd greatest guitarist of all time. And darn right he recognized that RR was another high quality guitarist meriting recognition! The notion that Duane couldn’t keep up with EC in studio is absurd.

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Todd

Subject: D&D, Bobby & Eric C

Tom G, Thanks for your thoughts on Derek and the Dominos. I haven't read Bobby's book yet, but that seems to match up with the impression that I got from some of the interviews as well as Bobby's YouTube talks.

Interestingly, Eric doesn't discuss Bobby Whitlock much in his autobiography, other than his connection to Delaney's band and he mentions that Bobby picked Eric up once, to give him a ride, after EC crashed a Ferrari. It's possible that EC's memory of details of those days is somewhat lacking due to substances.

EC (in his book) mentions that Carl Radle was the one who initially called Eric up to discuss putting a band together.
In Bobby's version of events, Bobby went to England (at Steve Cropper's suggestion) after leaving Delaney and Bonnie to visit with Eric. Steve even paid for Bobby's plane ticket and gave him some pocket cash. As Eric and Bobby hung out over several days casually, they picked up guitars and started writing songs very organically, and then the idea for the band kind of grew out of that.

So who really knows, but Bobby's ability for recall and detail seems pretty consistent and believable. Either way, it turned into a pretty unique project for a brief time.

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Tom G

Subject: Derek & the Dominos

I just finished Bobby Whitlock's book, which is definitely worth reading. Thanks to Pat B and others for recommending it. Bobby is of two minds about Duane. He highly praises his playing and what he brought to the record and the way he and Eric locked in. He also is adamant that Duane was not part of the band and was not up to Eric's stature. He says that Duane was at his best in a "structured" setting, such as in a recording studio or playing shows with the ABB in which there was not much variation from show to show, but that he could not keep up with Eric when he joined them live.

I really enjoy Duane's playing on Layla, and the ABB's Live at Fillmore East is one of my favorites, but I can understand what Bobby's saying. His book is very interesting, particularly when he's talking about the formation of D & The Ds and their gigs and studio sessions prior to the Layla sessions.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: The Weight / Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 · Jimmy LaFave

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brown eyed girl

Robbie is even on doors.......via Alison Garwood-Jones (writer and illustrator).

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Oh you got green eyes oh you got blue eyes oh you got gray eyes

DUANE ALLMAN
©1973 Richard Albero

JUST ROCK ON, AND HAVE YOU A GOOD TIME

"He loved B.B. King, Albert King, T-Bone Walker, Slim Harpo and Eric Clapton. We discussed Eric often, and Duane felt that Eric was the one foreign-born player who had it all the way. No, there was one other, ROBBIE ROBERTSON. Duane put Robbie in the top category. Also he loved Robert Johnson and Blind Willie Johnson; and shared a passion for these two artists with Delaney Bramlett, and it was something incredible to hear when they got together and played the songs of these two great Delta artists on acoustic guitars. I remember them playing outdoors on the deck of my house on Gardiner's Bay on a still summer night. They did songs like 'Shackles and Chains' as a slow, soulful ballad, 'Sweet Dreams' and many Jimmy Rogers songs. Duane even sang a little bit."

Duane Allman's personal philosophy of life was very simple and basic. He once said, "Everything's the same everywhere. There are nice folks, and ass-holes, and you have to learn to distinguish between the two in order to get by. And someone who's an ass-hole to somebody may be a nice folk to somebody else, so you've got to learn to be nice to everybody, and show everybody respect, that's the only way people respect you. You've got to have mutual respect and a little bit of love, if you can round it up. And don't be afraid to share what's inside of you with other people. That's the only way you're ever going to get free or have any fun all, either. So just rock on, and have you a good time. If I have a choice between having a good time and a shitty time, I'm going to have me a good time. I've had enough shitty times."

TODD... :-D

JED...I cannot totally lose interest in the Raps as they are our only "Canadian" team.......but it's not the same......Before in this household I'd be telling JM to not bother me while I was watching the game....He's more into hockey.....Now when I'm watching them play; I will switch channels or do something while the game is on. As I've said before.....We've only had two superstars......Vince Carter and Kawhi Leonard. While other teams were making their huuuuge trades; the Raps were left behind. For Lowry to make 32 million and he's not even a superstar and now losing his cool........unbelievable.

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Peter V

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Todd

Subject: Eric & George

RTO, I generally agree that the Layla album could have been culled down to a single album and still been strong, although (as a blues fan) I would have missed some of the longer songs like 'Key to the Highway' which probably would have had to go.

Regarding the All Things Must Pass album, Spector's production on this is not my favorite. Too noisy and distracting on many songs. The production should never call attention to itself. It should almost be invisible when done correctly. I do like a lot of Specters production, but more so on earlier things like the Ronnettes.

Some of the songs on ATMP seem to have varying amounts of Spector's touch, and it's the less 'Spectorized' tracks that I gravitate to. I was going to make a list the other night, but was getting lost in the music. It's still a great album, but it's one that I think could have been a double album instead of a triple.

Tom Dowd might have been a good choice, but not so sure about Delaney Bramlett. I enjoy Delaney & Bonnie, but Delaney is such a strong personality and musical influence, that I fear it would have ended up sounding too much like Delaney, and not enough like George. I do enjoy Eric's first solo album, but it has a very strong Delaney feel to it, and EC is almost secondary in some ways.

It's kind of interesting that Clapton's solo album, George's ATMP, and Derek and the Dominos, all have the same core band and a lot of overlap, but each has it's own unique feel to it. It's worth noting that while Tom Dowd was the Executive Producer on the Layla album, the music was produced by Derek and the Dominos. Jed, I agree that Duane was a huge boost to the sound, and was one of the attractions to me when I first got into it. It wasn't until I was a little older that I started to appreciate the album as a whole. I think both Duane and Bobby were essential in their respective roles. Eric has always performed better when he had someone pushing him and I think that Duane did that in the guitar aspect, and Bobby pushed Eric in the songwriting and vocal departments.

BEG, thanks again for the additional links. Lots of good info out there. Thanks for tracking it down.

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jh

New book from Robbie scheduled for Nov 2021.

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Jed

Hi Todd-thanks for your response. I get your point on Whitlock’s feelings about the primacy of the songs and vocals. My memory is correct,I believe,that the album really took off,according to EC,when Duane showed up and the originality and genius of the guitar interplay was equally if not more important to the album.my own opinion is that all three elements were crucial to the album’s success but where you rank them is a matter of personal taste. BEG-I lost interest in Raptors. Love the Lakers,Knicks,Zion,Clippers,NETS(!!!)-and many more-lots of intriguing storylines.

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brown eyed girl

Robbie Robertson And George Harrison on Lennon

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brown eyed girl

Subject: The Band/ George Harrison

"Late in 1968, after producing sessions in Los Angeles for a solo album by Apple Records signing Jackie Lomax,[12] Harrison spent Thanksgiving and much of December in upstate New York,[13] where he renewed his friendship with a now semi-retired Dylan and took part in informal jam sessions with the Band.[1][14] According to Helm, they discussed making a possible "fireside jam" album with Clapton and an Apple Films "rock western" called Zachariah, but neither project progressed beyond the planning stage.[9] The bucolic surroundings proved fruitful for Harrison as a songwriter, producing his first collaboration with Dylan, "I'd Have You Anytime",[15] and leading him to write "All Things Must Pass".[16][17] He later described the latter song as a "Robbie Robertson–Band type of tune",[18] and said that he always imagined it being sung by Helm.[19]

I respected the Band enormously. All the different guys in the group sang, and Robbie Robertson used to say he was lucky, because he could write songs for a voice like Levon [Helm]'s. What a wise and generous attitude.[11] George Harrison to Musician magazine, 1987

The Catskill Mountains in upstate New York – surroundings that inspired the music of the Band, and Harrison's song "All Things Must Pass"

While discussing "All Things Must Pass" with music journalist Timothy White in 1987, Harrison recalled that his "starting point" for the composition was Robertson's "The Weight" – a song that had "a religious and a country feeling to it".[11] Musically, the verses of "All Things Must Pass" are set to a logical climb within the key of E;[20] the brief choruses form a departure from this, with their inclusion of a B minor chord rather than the more expected major voicing. Author Ian Inglis notes that the composition incorporates the same "modes, cadences and suspensions" found in Band songs such as "The Weight" and "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down".[21]

According to Harrison biographer Simon Leng, the lyrics reflect "life's ephemeral character" and the "transitory" nature of love.[27] Inglis suggests that the song is "[o]stensibly" about "the end of a love affair".[21] He and theologian Dale Allison note the optimism offered in Harrison's words,[21][28] since, as Leng puts it, "a new day always dawns."[27] Although "All Things Must Pass" avoids religiosity, Allison writes that its statement on the "all-inclusive" transience of things in the material world explains why so much of its 1970 parent album, All Things Must Pass, "finds hope and meaning only in God, who does not pass away".[29] The song's main message is offered in its middle eight:[30][31]

All things must pass
None of life's strings can last
So I must be on my way
And face another day.

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brown eyed girl

An Oral History of Derek and the Dominos' 'Layla'
By Christopher Scapelliti
July 02, 2020

Eric Clapton's anguished valentine to his best friend's wife reinvented his career and remains a rock and roll milestone 50 years later.

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Bill M

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Si

This is on YouTube and sounds incredible. The Band at their best perhaps? You can hear the audience responding. The link is there on "What's New." This is going to be magnificent.

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Rob the Organ

There's no doubting the special place in history for Derek & the Dominos; I don't totally agree with the lazy "461 Ocean Boulevard was his last thing worth hearing" stereotype that many hold with re: EC, but there's no doubting that Layla was probably the strongest collection of songs. And not just because it was a double LP, no - if it had only been a single LP but had I Looked Away, Bell B B, It's Too Late, Keep On Growing, Nobody Knows You and that reworked Little Wing it would still have been great, and that's without relying too much on blues (which were very well played) or the title track (which I'm just not into).

One bandwagon I do jump on is holding the view of detesting the horrible Spector production (and George doing more of the same when Spector wasn't present on All Things) of almost anything Beatles related except Imagine (the LP). People often say 'If only George Martin had done it' but that wasn't likely given George M was one of those who never encouraged George's songs to be taken seriously (he said so himself and it wasn't until Something that it changed). Rather more tantalising for me would have been how lovely it could have been with either Delaney Bramlett or Tom Dowd at the helm, given that George was in the right 'knitting circle' (like being a Beatle wouldn't have been enough clout to get that anyway).

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

On the run.....I could not help thinking also of MARIANNE FAITHFULL and SISTER MORPHINE......

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brown eyed girl

Was Rita Coolidge Cheated Songwriting Credit on 'Layla'? (Exclusive Memoir Excerpt)
By Chris Payne
4/6/2016

Good morning TODD. Rita was the only female musician my brother had up on his bedroom wall along with Rod, Daltry, Hashish of the world and there was Rita. We loved the Mad Dogs Tour.

"There was no way Jim could have forgotten we’d written the song together. If I sound bitter, I’m not. “Layla” has generated hundreds of thousands of dollars in songwriting royalties -- maybe millions -- over the years for Eric. But I know that part of Jim’s share actually went to his daughter, Amy. And that, finally, was how I was able to deal with it, just knowing that she had something from her dad."

Finished Juliette, Naked yesterday and then Robbie was in my dream last night....Soon nitrous oxide as the new year greeted me with a broken veneer.....appearanace versus reality. Louuuuise Haye tells us that dental issues related to having difficulty making decisions. Yes, that's where I'm at.....Also PETER......since you and I and the royal family take homeopathic remedies......My ND told me to take one Arnica day before dental work.....one day of......and one day after.......Anyway music is ready for my appointment....Today first playlist is all Jimmy Lafave and Justin Townes Earle.

JED...I only watch part of the Raptor games now.....No need to say anymore. I did catch some of the Nets game as well last night as I was curious......Kyrie wanted out of Lebron's team as he wanted his own. Ok......Now you are with KD......and Harden??? Time will tell or as the Stones say......Time waits for no one.

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Todd

Subject: Bobby Whitlock

Thanks all for your thoughts on Bobby Whitlock and Derek and the Dominos. BEG, great links on Bobby.

Glenn, I was aware that Rita was with Jim Gordon around that time, but I didn't know much about the genesis of the Layla piano coda. Sounds like she may have been shorted there, so either EC treated her badly, or Jim Gordon convinced Eric that he came up with the melody on his own. Bobby Whitlock shies away from questions about that more recently, but there are posts from him from about 10 years ago where he says that Jim took it from Rita. However, I found another post where he actually says that Jim Horn came up with it, and that Rita and Jim Gordon got the idea from Jim Horn. Either way, it sounds like one of those misadventures in songwriting, that ends up a mess in regards to album credits.

Jed, I think that Bobby was friendly with Duane. Apparently Duane called Bobby "little brother" and showed him how to play slide. So I think that they were close. But from what I've read, it seems that Bobby felt strongly that Derek & the Dominos was: Eric, Bobby, Carl & Jim. Yes, Duane added a lot to the proceedings once he joined in, but I get the impression that Bobby feels that what made the Dominos unique, was the original songs, and the vocal interplay between Bobby and Eric.

I came into the Dominos as a Clapton fan and was really into the blues at the time, so as a young teen, I was really into the guitar interplay and didn't focus as much on the songs and the depth of what was going on. But as Bill M. rightly point out, it's the vocal interplay that really adds to the uniqueness of that recor;, especially as compared to other Clapton albums, where it's Clapton and his band as opposed to Clapton being a member of a band. Come to think of it, maybe Derek and the Dominos was Clapton realizing his yearning to be part of a collective as he observed in The Band's (our band) music when he listened to MFBP and visited the guys in Woodstock. I think he found a little bit of that with Delaney and Bonnie & Friends, but it was Derek and the Dominos where that vision really gelled.

The nice thing about learning more of the backstory and Bobby's perspective, is that I've been playing the Derek and the Dominos album quite a bit over the past few days, and tonight I've been listening to George Harrison's 'All Things Must Pass' with renewed interest. I had known that the guys were on that album but I didn't realize how much they actually contributed.

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brown eyed girl

KEVIN J..."Long before Led Zeppelin, a 13 year old Jimmy Page and his skiffle group play 'Mama Don't Want To Skiffle Anymore' and 'Cottonfields' on Huw Weldon's tv show 'All Your Own'. This is the complete version, and not the shorter one that's uploaded here on You Tube."

April 6, 1957

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brown eyed girl

"Whitlock, an accomplished singer/keyboardist/guitarist, spent his teenage years hanging and playing with artists on Stax Records, studying the label's house band, Booker T. & The M.G.'s and even becoming one of the first white artists signed to the label. (His first recorded work: handclaps on Sam & Dave's Top 10 hit "I Thank You.")

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Rob the Organ

Hi all, It is touching to be remembered with affection. I never thought I'd achieve that. Hope all are well. Funny times we live in for sure, what with politics in the West being all weird generally AND an international 'pox' to keep us all interested. Will check in again soon when the album is done and I can chat at length. Love to all, R

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Rob the Organ

Subject: Peter V

As Humph said on I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue frequently, "I'll decide if it was fun or not."

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Bill M

Good also to read that RtO is still around and productive. I'd feared he'd gotten stuck for good in his backyard hammock.

Norm: George Armstrong's is the only hockey autograph I ever got. Not from a game but from when he spoke at my highschool in the early '70s. I was never a Leaf fan - mostly because when I started paying attention in the early '60s they were always winning and I identified with losers.

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Kevin J

...and thanks to Todd for kicking the whole thing off!

RTO......The memories of Steve were also a reminder of the value of “content” as the media boys like to say. This place sure misses RTO’s wild ramblings.

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JQ

I got to see them in late 1970 at the Santa Monica Civic and they were brilliant, best I’d seen up to that point. Great loud sound and reefer passing all around, both of those aspects were new to me then too. Delaney Bramlett was the second guitarist, no Duane.

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Mike Nomad

Thanks for that great link, Angie. Spent the morning checking into the music. Sure was great going back in time.

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Norm J

Subject: George Armstrong

George Armstrong has died. He was 90. Another person who was a big part of hockey history.......gone.

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Kevin J

Thank you, BEG. A great interview with Bobby Whitlock. Nice to see clear answers to questions without the usual cliches.......and thanks to Glenn as well.

Go Habs Go !

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brown eyed girl

ELLIOT STEPHEN COHEN:
Bobby Whitlock: Telling The Truth
(first published in 'Record Collector, UK, May 2011, Issue 388)

Don't you think Duane's playing was integral in making Layla one of the greatest rock singles of all time?

Congrats to Rob the Organ via Peter V!
:-D

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Jed

It’s my understanding that Bobby Whitlock casts a negative shadow on Duane Allman and the role he plays on the album. Is that true?

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Peter V

Subject: The Swivel-Eyed

A song from "Rob the Organ"s forthcoming album. The visual YouTube collage is British politics-centred, and is fun.

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Pat B

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Alex

Subject: Steve

It's been 10 years and although I don't look at this site, like I once did, Steve's presence is missed. Where some people turn on their computers and look at current event/news feeds, Steve checked in over here. I would like it when it was a slow day or we were all busy doing our things, Steve would pipe up and go "Where is everyone?".

Two quick memories of Steve. I would like his use of odd phrases to describe things in private emails we exchanged, every now and again. One that comes to mind is "Linear solar powered clothes dryer" which was his name for a clothesline. The other involved him asking me if it was possible for me to go downtown and pick up some recording tape and parts, for a reel to reel tape recorder that he was restoring. I did and sent it off to him, express mail. He was so delighted that he sent me the money along with a Christmas card. The thing I loved was that he wrote a whole letter to me but along the way, the pens he was writing with, ran out of ink. Took him three pens to finish the card, which my wife has saved in a memory box somewhere.

I do hope that Marge and the kids are well and that he have kept and maintained the farm. For Steve's sake, I hope that they finally received and finished installing the bathroom shower tht caused him weeks of aggravation.

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glenn

Ah yes, but it seems credit has not yet been given to Rita Coolidge for co-writing with her then boyfriend Jim Gordon the piano coda for Layla. She says that she and Gordon had written a track called Time (Don’t Get In Our Way) and left a cassette with Clapton hoping he'd cover the song. Instead, after she and Gordon broke up, they dumped the lyrices, took the tune, and stuck it on the end of Layla. She was rebuffed by Robert Stigwood, Clapton's manager at the time, when she challenged the credits (it is credited as a Clapton-Gordon co-write). In 2011, Derek And The Dominos keyboardist Bobby Whitlock supported Coolidge’s version of events, saying in an interview: “Jim took the melody from Rita’s song and didn’t give her credit for writing it. Her boyfriend ripped her off. I knew – but nobody would listen to or believe me.”

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Todd

Subject: Derek and The Dominos - Bobby Whitlock

I just recently discovered that Bobby Whitlock has a YouTube channel (linked above). He has lots of stories about his days with Delaney & Bonnie, George Harrison's 'All Things Must Pass', and Derek and The Dominos, among other things. He's a pretty entertaining guy and breathes a lot of life into tales from those days, as well as filling in a lot of gaps and behind the scenes moments. It's nice to see a survivor from those days and someone who seems so well grounded. Well worth a visit for anyone interested in those bands.

I was reading about the 50th Anniversary release of the Layla album, and there was some discussion about some of the songwriting. Bobby and Eric shared writing credit on many of the songs, however 'Bell Bottom Blues' has only been credited to Clapton from the beginning. According to Bobby, that was a song hat Eric had started, but they finished it together with Bobby writing the last verse, and helping to flesh out the rest of the song. I don't think they had any sort of quarrel or animosity over that, and I think Bobby chalked it up to a clerical error.

I discovered something about Clapton that impressed me. I've always been a fan of his music, but he has had a reputation for being a horrible person at times, (even according to Eric Clapton). But here's some thing he did that seems pretty admirable. At some point, Bobby Whitlock had sold his rights to royalties from the Derek and The Dominos songs, to survive over the years. Sometime in the 2000's Eric bought the rights back and returned them to Bobby. This was something Bobby didn't know about or hadn't asked for. Just something that Eric did for him.

Regarding the credit for 'Bell Bottom Blues', Bobby Whitlock will soon have writing credit on that as well. I saw this in a recent article about Bobby.

"During a recent interview, when the question was posed about the writing of "Bell Bottom Blues," rather than go on record as stating that he co-wrote the song -- which until recently had been solely credited to Eric Clapton -- Bobby Whitlock, who remains close with the guitarist, emailed him and wrote down his recollection of how the pair came up with the song: "I said, ‘I hope this refreshes your memory.' Y'know? And he wrote back to me in three-and-a-half minutes, saying, ‘You're right! Y'know?' (Laughs) And he said, ‘I'll take care of this. I'll make it right' -- and he did. And so, as of now, from now on, my name's going to be on everything that has anything to do with ‘Bell Bottom Blues' and all the future releases, when they put the 50th anniversary box set together. So, everything has been made right."

So I thought is was pretty cool to see some resolution to that.

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joe j

Steve Heggison and I amiably agreed to disagree on most everything except music. I haven't been in contact with Marge for years but I'd like to think that she and Katie and the boys are doing well.

Was going to link a sea shanty or two but my links have been disabled. I'll have to contact Jan I guess to get back on stream.

I'm not political but I have an aversion to racist, sexist, misogynist, narcissistic pathological liars.

Thanks again Pete the V re tip to Rumer. I'm exploring the Bacharach/David album. My youngest is a Cornershop fan.

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Owen

Subject: Cool old site

Seems like cool old site, Gonna have to check it out more tomorrow morning

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Norm J

Subject: The Hit Man

Bill you may remember all those years ago (close to 20 I think) I had a contract out on Steve. :-) Just an incompetent operative couldn't get it done. One day in the heat of a marvelous argument we agreed to meet out at Buffalo run and have it out. His question was "How will I recognize you? Will you be the one in the pink tutu? That was Steve.

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Todd

Good to hear JQ. I didn't see much of the musical parts of the day, as I only had a little time at lunch to view it live on TV. Mostly watched the swearing in, the speech, and the poem by Amanda Gorman. I take it some of the musical performances happened in the evening. I'm sure those are online somewhere. Thanks for the tip on John Legend. I'll seek that out. Lady Gaga can sing pretty well and I thought she did a good job singing the National Anthem.

Bill M, the idea of Steve and Bumbles vacationing together was pretty funny! I had forgotten about that.

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JQ

Hi Todd - I watched a lot of the inauguration entertainment, its music, poetry, etc last night. I’m pretty convinced that hope can defeat cynicism, at least my own in this case. I know 0 about pop music and I’m embarrassed to say I really only knew John Legend as a name I had heard. But his cover of Nina Simone’s Feeling Good last night was just brilliant. I don’t know Lady Gaga at all either, but I thought her take on the Nat Anthem was top notch too.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Rock 'n' roll legend John Fogerty on new protest song tackling police brutality, racism

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brown eyed girl

CNN's Anderson Cooper speaks with Amanda Gorman, the nation's first-ever youth poet laureate, after she delivered a poem at the inauguration of President Joe Biden.
Source: CNN

Yes TODD!! I was so impressed and moved and felt so hopeful as AMANDA GORMAN (Harvard) shared her poem at the Biden inauguration. She had a speech impediment as did Biden at one time......She has been on the interview circuit already. Every once in awhile a gem appears before us and it shines it's light on us. Robbie shone his light on us as well.

TODD again....When I saw Dylan perform his music from DESIRE in Toronto and Niagara, Falls NY.....Yes, yes, yes! That's the Dylan I love so much. He just punched out his words with his makeup on and......"Hot chilli peppers in the blistering sun"......I kept turning around to see how far my head was blown away. Levy worked in Theatre and was a trained psychologist as well so he had a lot to offer Dylan at the time.....Yes!

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Todd

Subject: Amanda Gorman

BEG, thanks for providing the link to Amanda Gorman's poem from yesterday's inauguration. One of the best spoken word performances that I've heard since Bob Dylan's 'Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie'.

She has wisdom beyond her years, and her words were delivered with such a heartfelt sincerity. It was truly one of the highlights of the day. My hope is that the politicians were really listening to her words and deliver on the potential and spirit with which they were intended. It was quite a gift, and I think she will have a bright future.

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Todd

Subject: Steve

Yes, I miss Steve as well. It was quite a shock that he passed away so young.
One of the things I liked about him was that you could have a disagreement with him on a topic, without being overly disagreeable. A good quality to have. He had a good sense of humor.

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Todd

Subject: The Story of the Hurricane

BEG, that's interesting about the Levy estate lawsuit against Dylan. Back in early December when the Dylan catalog sale was announced, I posted this question as part of one of my posts just out of curiosity.

(Todd) "What about songs that Bob has co-written with other people like Jacques Levy who co-wrote many of the songs on Desire? Does the Jacques Levy estate still get paid, or does that only go to Universal now? Or even songs like 'Tears of Rage' (co-written with Richard Manuel) or 'This Wheel's on Fire' (co-written with Rick Danko)?"

Dave H. provided some helpful info at the time to my query, but it seems like some wires got crossed between the Dylan and Levy camps. Will be interesting to see how this shakes out and if it would have any implications for any of Dylan's other collaborators like Rick and Richard.

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Norm J

Subject: Remembering

I still have e mails on my computer from Jerry Tenenbaum and David Powell I read from time to time with a fondness. I listen to Jeff Newsome's CD music that is on my computer often.

I suppose it is to be expected over all these years that we keep losing friends here. J Tull Fan is another who comes to mind. Steve was far too young. It reminds me of one of my best friends who was just a little younger than me. I was sitting on his fish boat talking with him one day over 20 years ago. Two days later his uncle pulled his boat up along side mine and had to tell me. Marvin died yesterday. He too was only 50 and had a heart attack......gone.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan sued by wife of late collaborator Jacques Levy after catalogue sale to Universal

The estate of the late Levy, who collaborated with Dylan on his 1976 album 'Desire', are seeking $7.25 million (£5.25 million)
Caleb Triscari
21st January 2021

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brown eyed girl

Subject: HANK WEDEL

Living in the Land of Love by Hank Wedel

"The 2020 global pandemic lockdown afforded me the chance to reorganise and retrieve much of what had been left scattered in the wake of 35 years of raising a family and making music while being based in Cork City"...

JQ...STEVE voted NDP like myself. Our party represents small business, Unions, intelligentsia.....education and social services are not an afterthought. There is a radical wing of the caucus as well. My PHD cousin who is a Marxist is one of them. Just like Engels his family owned a factory in Europe as well. Our grandfathers were brothers.....Just sayin'. See link for HANK WEDEL article alive and well!! I met him in NYC via Crab at a bar where he was performing....Absolutely lovely person and great gig! Columbia U students like to hang there. I cannot remember which show we saw that week as well....maybe Buddy and Julie Miller at the Bottom Line or Tribute to Dylan's Blood On The Tracks at Lincoln Centre. I introduced him to Buddy Cage that day. His partner was wearing a Bob Marley jacket.....Alright!

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Peter V

How strange. Yesterday we had a conversation about llamas protecting sheep from wolves and went on to many other things I recall discussing with Steve from which apples go brown to is there BSE in North America and do on. I was saying to Mrs V how much I miss Steve’s contributions and how young he was to pass so suddenly. RIP Steve.

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JQ

Hi Kevin J - Thanks loads for that reminder and memory. Steve was always great here. And a great socialist who knew his stuff around that point of view really well. I was missing David P here recently too on something about a musical group - I don't recall which or why, maybe it was Larkin Poe, given they’re from GA too - but his insights & experience were always extremely interesting & well founded. Does anybody know whatever happened to Hank from Cork; hopefully he’s still with us?

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brown eyed girl

Subject: There is always light if we are brave to see it and if we are brave to be it.

KEVIN J....and I really miss the three Canadians who I met from this site.....Blind Willie McTell, JT and Calm all from Toronto (fifties sixties seventies). Remembering Steve.....who loved to razzzzz Bumbles. Thanks also for clarifying Kevin as I was relating to the fact that Sally and Pamela are the same age now and other things. I always think about Bertrand Russell's work on appearance versus reality when I enter the universe of Venus and Mars as well. Many thanks again also for exposing me to the music of Jimmy Lafave.....even his covers. And we'll get through these dark months if we show ourselves and others the light within.

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Bill M

Kevin J: Ten years only? Sure feels like much longer. Good of you to honour his passing.

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Norm J

Subject: Steve

There are still times when looking back over many times good, (and not so entertaining here) I think of some of the good folks we've lost. Paul Godfrey, Jeff, Knockin Lost John and particularly Steve because I still have on my computer the beautiful pictures of his farm, Marge with a fresh pie out of the oven and Steve and his beautiful children on cross country skis in the moon light. Hope his family is well and happy.

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Kevin J

BEG.......I think context is important. I have never and would never judge a person based on their looks and I am well aware of how unfair it is for women especially to have to put up with comments and attitudes of both males and females in this area. My feelings with respect to Sally Mann had nothing to do with how she has aged but rather the general position of how unsavoury it is for an older grandmother to be regaling us with stories of blow jobs and boa constrictors......my comments about Pamela Des Barres still looking great when she released her book were, granted, a bit clumsy but I guess more to do about her still being relatively young and carefree at the time.

.......anyhow, this is day 1 of a new world. Let’s all stay safe and look forward to a return to some normalcy and fun......As cold as this place is - there is still nothing better out there.

10 years ago almost to the day that Steve passed away. With the Orange Clown slithering away from power, he must be doing somersaults up above. Hope Marge is doing ok.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: AMANDA GORMAN!!! / KEVIN J

KEVIN...My paternal grandma who I lived with until 16 was only a few years older than Sally Mann. Both beautiful in their own right. My grandma had hair to her waist and always kept it up in a bun like the grandma in the Beverly Hillbillies. However she did have a gold tooth....maybe two. She produced four beautiful children who had very short lives but I can only imagine what she looked like in her twenties. Different women due to life circumstances.....

Sally Mann was more than a companion to the men who were musicians. She became a lawyer on full scholarship and then chose to have a sanctuary for our precious pets. And Pamela?

We are more than our appearance......Just as you would not want to be judged by your looks only, would you? How could we possibly look like as we did in our twenties? And women are guilty of this as well. Our last yard sale was two years ago due to Pandemic at our Co-Op. I was cleaning up as JM had to work that weekend.....You would have absolutely adored and wanted his dad's fishing rod if you like to fish......wow....one of a kind vintage........and he only wanted 20.00. Anyway, an elderly tenant said to a young friend that I had gorgeous dimples. In the next sentence she said, "Just think what she looked like when she was younger." Yeah, it got to me.....especially coming from another woman. Men aren't judged the same as women are re their appearance, are they? We can be kind hearted and intelligent and generous and it all comes down to our looks......no matter how attractive we are. Your own partner most likely won't look the same as she does now in her seventies either. I'm in my early sixties.......I have always been more than my looks or my eyes...... ;-D

I can share honestly with you as we are very friendly with each other and yes......The GB is more fun and interesting when you are in it.

NOMADIC MIKE....I forgot to share that your birthday on January 1........same day as Paul Westerberg from The Replacements. It's ok if you don't know who they are but just wanted to share anyway. I know, I know......I value birthdays even when others don't.

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Kevin J

Thank you, Norm. Difficult days for all of us but also hopeful with the vaccine just months away. Simple pleasures like sharing some beers and laughs with family and friends in a pub will be so great to return to. And to just stop worrying about whether the beer can or milk carton has COVID on it will be worth so much !

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Peter V

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Bill M

Peter V: In my mind, Ten Years After is two songs - the excellent "I'd Love To Change The World" and the much less enjoyable "Goin' Home" from the "Woodstock" soundtrack. Since the drumming on the latter came courtesy Montreal's Corky Laing, you and your compatriots could duck the guilt by blaming the drummer.

Band link: Levon Helm wrote the preface to Corky's autobiog, which is where I learned that factoid.

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Peter V

'Ten Years After are British' - Pat there are some things you shouldn't remind we British of!

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Pat B

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Norm J

Subject: Unity

I hope you are well Kevin. That virus keeps me worrying about you guys.

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Kevin J

Strange place this....cold as it’s always been but much quieter than ever. In this 2nd winter of lockdown, I’ve actually been tempted to jump into the other forums of social chat but as great as some sites are to look in on ( Dag B’s Band focussed Facebook page is a shinning example of this as are numerous Twitter pages - hello Rex Chapman and Peter Frampton ), I have such ambiguous - leaning to negative - feelings for the owners of the major platforms as a result of their accommodations to the Orange Clown and his crowd that it is hard to jump in and join.

Robbie’s house.......Such a tasty little place. I do recall at the time that he had mentioned buying the house as a perfect hideaway for writing Testimony.......and to think that he picked it up 7 years ago for the price of a shithouse in Mississauga.

....Fuddle Duddle, Norm !

Starting to understand how some people can get addicted to Amazon......receiving notice that a parcel has arrived does have that Christmas Morning as a kid kind of vibe.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: SALLY MANN RICHARD MANUEL JOE COCKER

If you missed her chat in one of my previous links.....Sally Mann talks respectively and in awe of Libby Titus....She also tells us that Richard Manuel could have made music with Joe Cocker but.......As for west coast bands....My brother had some of their music and had friends in Laguna Beach so there was always west coast east coast music at home. Just sayin'.

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Lisa

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Kevin J

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Bill M

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

Woodstock at 50: A conversation with Sally Mann Romano — a 1960s rock-n-roll survivor, lawyer, writer, and animal lover.

Michael McCord
Jul 26, 2019

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brown eyed girl

Subject: The Boyzz Are Back In Town

20 Questions With Sally Mann....who became a lawyer.

Favourite bands?

Van Morrison, Elvis Costello, Bob Dylan, The Band....

Favourite rock n roll memory?

Going to the 1974 Valentine’s Day concert at the LA. Forum with Richard Manuel, keyboard player for The Band, for the last night of the Bob Dylan and The Band tour, and finding the dressing room filled with yellow roses from Bill Graham, with the note “Don’t tell Richard”; having Bob Dylan to dinner for Richard’s birthday in Malibu.

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Rm

Subject: the band is with me book

I read that book,her and Richards time together takes up about 30 pages max. honestly save your money theres not much in the book really and author comes across as a vapid social climber

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Fred

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Fred

a knucklehead named Stephen Harper, followed by Kim Campbell and in a not so distant third place a certain Brian Mulroney (Canada's first wannabe American PM).

Notice what these three have in common? Apart from being idiots, that is...yeah that's right... Conservatives. ; )

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Todd

Subject: 'Won't Feel Like This Forever' - Dea Matrona

Here's an original from Dea Matrona. A song that they wrote during lock-down called, 'Won't Feel Like This Forever'. This is from a club named 'The Limelight' in Belfast....playing to an empty house which they streamed live at the time due to pandemic restrictions.

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Todd

Subject: 'Oh Well' - Dea Matrona

A while back I posted a video of these ladies from Belfast, Ireland doing a cover of The Cream version of 'Crossroads'. Here is a clip of them performing the Peter Green era Fleetwood Mac song 'Oh well'. They seem to really enjoy playing live music.

Getting my live music fix these days from watching busking videos from Ireland. Lots of talent there. Nice to see the younger generation inspired by some of the music from the past.

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Pat B

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JQ

Hi Bonk - I was referring to the Keystone pipeline which looks like Joe B will be abandoning for good; it’s been in a tenuous legal hold for 4 years. We have no need for the stuff; it’s strictly for export and requires a pipeline, etc with a final use that produces extreme pollution, no matter where on earth it’s used. The project has only ever been a money grab - that Trump resurrected - and its upcoming termination seems to have pissed off the guy up there.

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Norm J

Subject: Business & Politics with the Band background Stage Fright

Ouuuu! Here goes Kevin again with one of his ignorant Liberal rants about things his words show his ignorance. I am by no means an advocate of Kenny. Alberta with their oil as we were with our forest industry were dictated to by American business companies and their weight. The people of Alberta have always needed to work. The size of those Athabasca tar sands are the biggest deposit in the world.

In 1967 Sun Oil started extracting bitchumen from those tar sands and it was called "dirty oil". For years Alberta governments made them clean up their act more and more just as we did in BC with American companies we made plant trees, reforest and fertilize the trees. I can show pictures of helicopters taking fertilizer from a barge I'm towing and fertilizing trees.

Since Sunco bought out the Americans and the industry is Canadian owned more and more the process has been upgraded to make that oil that is exported as clean as any in the world. That company has been around since 1917. Look up "Context Energy Examined" the oil quality is monitored. Fact is Canada is the biggest supplier of oil to the USA. As well we in BC are the biggest supplier to California of hydro power, natural gas and water. As a matter of fact California owes us so gawd damn much money if they paid us all they owed us we would be a debt free province but generally they are broke.

So the big mouth in Oregon needs to get some facts straight. As does Kevin. We have one of the worst federal governments, worst Prime Ministers we have ever had. About as bad as Paul Martin. We would be happy to have the 4 Western provinces gone from that outfit

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Bonk

JQ. Could you please explain your statement a little more clearly. Where are you coming from with that?

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Kevin J

....and to even add to the disgrace of what has happened in Alberta - above and beyond the indescribable destruction of First Nation land and ways of life - the Conservative party in power almost exclusively for more than 50 years has allowed foreign ownership to remove more than 90% of profits on an ongoing basis. Yeah.....Albertans led by imbeciles like Kenney have given it up to Americans and others for generations and received almost nothing in return. Sad.

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Norm J

Subject: Half Baked oil

I can't imagine why any one could give a shit about your dim witted comment.

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JQ

For the Canadian friends here - What’s the story with this jerk from Alberta that thinks we must import his filthy shit oil? I thought you all you were better environmentalists than us?

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Bill M

Subject: acceptable as a sea shanty?

Joe J: Here's one I've loved since I first heard it in the '70s. Same tune as NS Farewell, but more powerful through an Acadian lens (a la "Acadian Driftwood") than another Going Down The Road song.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Rob Bowman (Talking About Garth Hudson and The Band) - London Lights Episode 4

"Grammy award winning Professor of Music Rob Bowman from York University joins Dan to talk about The Band, and their connection to London. He tells us about Garth Hudson’s time growing up in London before joining Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm, Rick Danko and Richard Manuel. They also talk about The Band’s time as the backing band for Ronnie Hawkins and Bob Dylan!"

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Pat B

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joe j

Thanks Peter. Best of 2020.

Depending on you guys to give me a heads up on new music

Sea shanties???

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Monday, January 18 Martin Luther King Jr. Day 2021 in United States

Flashback: Stevie Wonder Sings ‘Happy Birthday’ at 1986 Martin Luther King Jr. Tribute

Wonder spent years advocating for a national holiday in honor of his late hero. In 1986, when Congress finally got on board, he convened an all-star concert to celebrate

"Wonder’s connection to King was deep and profound. He’d broken down in tears upon hearing of King’s assassination in 1968 and attended the funeral. He wrote a preliminary version of “Happy Birthday” in 1977, and the song finally made it onto record on 1980’s Hotter Than July, which augmented its chipper synth beats with slyly finger-pointing lyrics: “You know it doesn’t make much sense/There ought to be a law against anyone who takes offense/At a day in your celebration,” Wonder sang.

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Bill M

Re the Let It Be conversations, I wish I had ready access to my copy of transcriptions of the Beatles' studio conversations during the record in the album. All I recall was that they really had the Band on their minds.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan: Live versions of 7 songs from “Planet Waves”

Posted on January 17, 2021 by Egil Mosbron

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brown eyed girl

January 17: MICK TAYLOR was born in 1949 , here playing Blind Willie McTell by Bob Dylan

Posted on January 17, 2021 by Hallgeir Olsen

Happy Healthy Happy Belated Birthdays to MICK TAYLOR and STEVE EARLE!

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brown eyed girl

The Beatles' contrasting opinions on Phil Spector's controversial Let It Be album mixing

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brown eyed girl

The Joe Brown legend started from the moment he first appeared on Boy Meets Girls, backing American stars such as Johnny Cash, Gene Vincent and Eddie Cochran. “On my first show,” he says, “Johnny had his guitar player, Luther Perkins, very simple, just plonk-plink, and I’m doing the song, How High Is The Water Mamma? The song went on about nine foot and we got to one point where I threw in a little break. Johnny stopped the live show and said, ‘Joe, there’ll be no picking there,’ and I got fired on the spot.” When he mentioned it to Cash after the show, the Man In Black said, “We’ll just have to see about that…” and got it sorted. Some months later, there was a message that a package had arrived for him at the docks and he needed to pay the import duty. Opening it in the office he found a gleaming pair of cowboy boots from Cash – but far too expensive for him to pay the charge.

The official urged him to put them on and walk around – then charged a token rate for used footwear."There was also rocker Ronnie Hawkins. “Ronnie brought over Levon Helm and Rick Danko,” recalls Brown. “I got to tour with these guys… they even asked me to go and join them in Canada. I sometimes wish I had.”

He was 21 when, in 1962, A Picture Of You, a hit that sounds as good now as it did then, reached No 2. He was a star, one who the Fab Four were delighted to support. “The Beatles were doing really well in the clubs of Liverpool, but Brian Epstein wanted them to play in the bigger theatres,” he says. “So, he booked me for a few gigs and got them to open for me. By the end of the year they’d gone ‘whoosh!’ … I didn’t see hide nor hair of them for years, only John, occasionally, in posh London clubs.”

“I had to deny I was Joe Brown, which I did to the extent of growing a big beard,” he says. But the beard didn’t disguise Brown’s light entertainment reputation, and Home Brew went flat: “We did country-rock stuff, but my management was still sending me out as Joe Brown & The Bruvvers, so we never had a bloody chance.” The albums can be heard for the first time on CD as part of a new box set. “Then I did 20 years of clubs, pantos and summer seasons – Blackpool, Yarmouth, Brighton, about 12 weeks each – as a result of which I developed a hatred of British seaside resorts,” he continues.

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Bill M

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Peter V

I found a Joe Brown interview glancing in a 2013 Record Collector.

What people don't know: I once played with Ronnie Hawkins and Levon Helm.

Subject I would choose to answer questions on if I were on 'Mastermind' - The Band.

Last album purchased: Dirt Farmer, Levon Helm.

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Peter V

Ronnie rewrote the words to Girl From The Ghetto:

Kharma’s going to visit you too

For all the things you put me through

I hope you do, I know you will, yeah, yeah

I hope your hell is filled with magazines

And on every page you see a big picture of me

And under every picture a caption will read

Not bad for a girl from the ghetto like me

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Peter V

Garth Hudson played accordion on "The Gypsy's Wife" from "Recent Songs." Leonard was doing that song in his last tours.

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Ragtime

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Ray Mizumura

Subject: Hello to you...BEG!

Hey there Brown Eyed Girl!!

Be safe and Be well,

Love, Ray

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Music Books

Hellooooo Ray Mizumura! I hope you continue to stay healthy and safe. I am reading Nick Hornby's Juliet, Naked....Too much to say. ;-D Anyway, you might quite enjoy this radio station that just appeared one day. Some were talking about Nick Lowe awhile ago and Breaking Glass popped up. I just heard The Cure's Just Like Heaven.

NICKRADIO is a fun mix of postpunk, new wave and alternative rock.

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Ray Mizumura

Subject: Phil Spector

Thank you Ragtime. There is a Band connection, I would say, given Mr Spectors productions of George Harrison and Leonard Cohen.

I agree with John Lennon's high praise for PS as a producer. I absolutely love Death of a Ladies Man by Cohen. The Christmas album is the best Christmas album, in my opinion.

Nevertheless, and obviously, PS was a repellent person and a murderer, and I'm glad I knew him only through his artistic achievement, which retains all of its cultural significance, speaking for myself here.

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Lisa

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John D

Lisa; because of the prices, my daughter and her husband will NEVER be able to afford a home in Vancouver. I remember back in, I believe '99 when this all started.

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Ragtime

Subject: Phil Spector

Phil Spector died in prison from covid. Not Band-related, but anyway...

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Ray Mizumura

Subject: Howard Johnson

Not only was I blessed to attend an outdoor concert by the Levon Helm Band in Kansas City, Missouri in July 2010, I was even more thrilled to learn that the great Howard Johnson was onstage with said band, playing his magic huge-hearted tuba music. Rest in Power and Beauty, Howard.

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Ray Mizumura

Subject: For Sale--Writer's Roost

Ah, that is quite a real estate listing. I might have to put in a bid, but first I'll buy a few more lottery tickets. For me, having the Raging Bull poster would make it all worth it. But I don't know if I'd be able to get much writing done. The loveliness would distract me. And I hear the weather there beats what we have in Kansas. Kudos to Robbie for penning such a terrific tome in surroundings so delicious!

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brown eyed girl

Pop legend Annie Lennox plays enchanting ‘Moonlight’ Sonata on her living room piano

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Could You Be Loved?

Bob Marley, Chronixx Songs Among 46 Chosen For Official Joe Biden, Kamala Harris Inauguration Playlist

JM's reaction..."I hope they get royalties and don't get ripped off."

"Such is the enduring popularity of Bob Marley’s music, that even Trump supporters were spotted singing the words “every little thing is gonna be alright” from the reggae legend’s Three Little Birds after the Capitol riot last week. "

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Peter V

Subject: Film review: Blithe Spirit

launched on Sky on 15 January 2020, and will be on other premium channels. This is Noel Coward’s sublime play. Best read the review. It has been “re-imagined” by a Downton Abbey team. Result?

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Bill M

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Peter V

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Rod

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Bill M

A question for the realtors among us: Why would "six minutes from the Beverly Hills Hotel" be a sales feature worth stressing? With five bedrooms you'd be able to put up (or in Bandian terms, fix a rack for) a reasonable number of guests.

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JQ

Hi Lisa - The same thing has happened in the area I grew up in on the west side of LA - there’s nothing under a million. The area was developed after WW2 as GI housing and was strictly middle class & blue collar. And mostly racist and red-lined to keep blacks out. A lot of the original 3-bedroom, 1,200ft and uniform houses have been replaced by ghastly, Italianate McMansions. But even those original places are over a mil now. I don’t think the story is limited to that place - everywhere, particularly within 5 miles of the coast, from San Fran to San Diego shares the same story.

Rant - The right-wing media here blows on with the lie that Californians are leaving the state in droves; the truth is that the population grew by over 10% in the last decade to over 40 million now. Still only 2 senators though. Whereas Wyoming, N&S Dakota and Idaho combine for 2 million and get 8 senators. Our constitution is as anachronistic as the Old Testament (& considered as sacred) and is in need of a serious brush-up. But for the political expediency of the GOP it’s likely nothing will be changed.

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Lisa

Hard to believe, but if that real estate were for sale in Vancouver it would go for a lot more than $4.2 million. Some ordinary residential homes where I grew up have gone for that much, and they are just regular, nice homes in what used to be considered an ordinary, middle-class neighborhood.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Never Too Late For Belated Birthday

Happy Healthy Belated Birthday to THE HAWK!

Always brings laughter to all and who brought us Levon, Robbie, Rick, Richard and Garth!

Walked the camel and he could do flips on stage...Wow!

Knockout for Toronto's club scene The Hawk!

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brown eyed girl

“Rock & Roll Hall of Famer Robbie Robertson bought this home as an escape to pen what would become his New York Times best selling autobiography, Testimony,” said Lee. “Nestled up high on North Beverly Drive across from Franklin Canyon Park, one of Beverly Hills’ best kept secrets, this ultra-private getaway boasts an incredibly scenic landscape while remaining six minutes from the Beverly Hills Hotel.”

Noguchi coffee table is all we have in common.

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Bill M

I agree too that "Cocteau, Van Gogh and Geronimo" sounds pretentious. I suspect the three names stand in for Shadrak, Mishak and Abednego from the Book of Daniel (and the Sacred Harp - see Peter V's article on D&tSH), which makes some sense given the first verse of the song seems to be about that Daniel, who morphs into Richard Manuel later in the song - the guy suffering from frozen keyboard fingers and a dead poetic tongue. Not to mention stage fright, as per a previous post.

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Rod

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brown eyed girl

Behind the Song: “Healing Bones,” by Jules Shear & RICK DANKO

PAUL ZOLLO
A DAY AGO

It’s the title song of Jules Shear’s Healing Bones, released on the first day of 1994, and produced by Rod Argent and Peter Van Hooke.

Jules recorded two of the Danko co-writes on the Healing Bones album; this one and “Never Again and Forever.”

Jules spoke about writing this song with Danko in a recent interview for this magazine. “We wrote the musical part together,” he said, “with [Danko] sort of playing those chord changes and me singing. He was playing and I was making up melodies. And then he left and I wrote the words.”

Then he humbly attributed much of its greatness to Danko: “Well, Danko, you know, he’s connected to all those kinds of feelings. When he makes up stuff, he’s got music dripping off of him. But a lot of times he doesn’t coordinate it all in the form of songs. So that sort of becomes my task.”

For Jules, writing with Danko was joyful. And joy has forever been the constant in every song he writes. It’s very much alive in the great details of this one, and the mystery of their meaning: the menace implied but never directly stated, the sense of place as delicately detailed as a great novel (such as the “forty acres of topsoil,” “the sharp edge of a plow,” “the unbelievable symmetry,” the “obvious trail.” Also the ending of the chorus, “Hold me up against your healing bones.”)

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Peter V

As I posted on Facebook, "People who live in glass houses should not write The Stones I Throw."

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brown eyed girl

Subject: HAPPY HEALTHY HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

JOHN DONABIE'S BIRTHDAY TODAY!

Oshawa-born who began his radio career in 1965, at CKLB in Oshawa.

Honourable member of the radio world and The Band Guest Book

Noticeable for giving good voice

Disc broadcaster extraordinaire

JOHN D hangin' with Robbie, Van and Eric!

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Ragtime

I wonder if it's wise to make an album better than it ever was. Would anyone try to rework one of Rembrandt'ss less succesful paintings into a masterpiece? I don't think so. Never try to change The Band's history by upgrading imperfect elements to a wanted level of perfection.

Cahoots has three flaws IMO. The first and most important is that it's tunes are musically mediocre. Only Carnival, Pantomime and (yes Peter!) TMSO manage to keep alive, the most embarrassing drag being The River Hymn. And don't tell me Bob's WIPMM is any better, enjoyable as it is. Everyone accepts that nothing can be done about this, naturally.

Second: its lyrics are pretentious: "Dead tongue said the poet To the daughter of burlesque. Cocteau, Van Gogh and Geronimo They used up what was left". No conservateur/restaurateur would use a red pencil here... even "stung by a snake" remains untouched. ;-)

The harsh sound is the third flaw, as it is since 1971, but maybe a smart engineer can fix this. Don't! Someone who tries to 'repair' this will remove an essential part of the signature of the album and damage its authenticity. We should live with the fact that even our guys had their weak moments.

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jh

Robbie’s crib in LA can now be yours for only $4.2 million!

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Rod

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Bill M

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Pat B

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Solomon

John Simon was a recent guest on the Rock's Backpages Podcast.

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Bill M

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Rod

Now that Robbie is selling is Neve console does that spell the end of the 50th anniversary re-issues? He said he used it on the last three. He also sold the ROA Telecaster a while back - maybe to finance some new project or pay the bills.

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Joe Frey

Subject: Howard Johnson

Truly sorry to hear about Howard Johnson's passing. I always enjoyed his music. I have Gravity and Right Time (with Taj). Howard Johnson was one of those performers that when I saw his name on a record, I most likely would buy it.

I commend to all Jackie DeJonette's Album Album that Howard plays on. It is a great record. He also could be found on many of Gil Evans' latter day recordings.

The fact that he could embrace rock 'n roll, jazz and the blues is a testament to his pursuit of good music, wherever he could make it.

Watching him "get it down" with The Band and subsequently with Levon, was a joy.

A special musician..

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Peter V

Subject: Greed

Review added of the latest Michael Winterbottom directed film with Steve Coogan, GREED (linked). It is based on tycoon Sir Philip Green, the “unacceptable face of capitalism.’ Coogan excels at playing these characters, here leading a cast with David Mitchell, Isla Fisher, Asa Butterfield, Sophie Cookson, Shirley Henderson, and Miles Jupp. It is very funny, but with a serious underlying theme. On Sky, soon on Netflix.

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Bill M

Re my last post, I should have added that the lead singer of the Jon-Lee Group (aka John & Lee and the Checkmates, Jon Finley, was one of a (short) sequence of singers that Levon and the Hawks recruited to be their frontman. He bowed out almost immediately and returned to the Checkmates. Bruce Bruno was another - maybe before Finley, maybe after. He at least lasted long enough to get in a group photo. And eventually there Bob Dylan ...

Oddly enough, by the time Bob rolled around, the guys must've realised they didn't need a frontman. However, Bob had much more to offer - travel!, money!, contacts!, education!, credibility in the biz!

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Solomon

Howard Johnson, Tuba Virtuoso & Collaborator With The Band, Taj Mahal, Dies At 79.

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Bill M

Subject: Fonf's first record

"Bring It Down Front" by the Jon-Lee Group - local top 10 in '67.

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Bill M

Subject: as full a bio-obit on Michael Fonfara as you're liable to see

See link, even if it misses the great 2B3 Toronto Sessions CD featuring a cast of monster organists.

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Bill M

Thanks BEG. Didn't know until now. Probably would have seen him 20 times since March if covid hadn't come to town. A magnificent musician who put every ounce of his frail body into his playing, now matter how shitty the gig or how little it may have 'mattered'. Those 20 gigs would most likely all have been at a bar in the Beach where he and Johnny Wright played every Saturday sine the '90s. We mostly had a nodding acquaintance, but he was certainly approachable. Likely the first words he ever said to me was at that church at Davenport and Bay where he played with Danny Brooks and the Rockin' Revelators (with Richard Bell), with the great John Finley guesting. Dominic Troiano was in the audience, and Jackie and Betty Richardson, and John D (and myself, and BEG, I believe). After a meltingly great evening of gospel music I opened a door to breathe some air and there was Michael, perched on a planter box and smoking a joint. He looked at me, smile slightly, and said softly, "I LOVE this fucking music". Amen.

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brown eyed girl

MICHAEL FONFARA, Longtime Lou Reed Keyboardist, Dead at 74

Fonfara was a member of the Downchild Blues Band, and recorded with groups like Foreigner and the Everly Brothers

Madison Bloom
January 10, 2021

I am really stunned to read the terrible news at this moment.....He was a truly gifted musician who made especially Canadian fans proud that he was such a talent on keyboards and.....had many amazing musical and otherwise experiences in this world. It was thanks to Bill M who encouraged me to meet Michael in Port Credit while he was performing with Danny and The Revelators. Wow....Danny Weiss and and Richard Bell were in the band as well......I had just seen Garland Jeffreys for his 60th Birthday gig in NYC and told him that I would be seeing Fonfara next. Garland gave me his card and asked that I give it to him......Of course I had to ask Michael about Louuuuu......I just kept thinking.......Unbelievable......This very sweet man had all kinds of experiences......and with one of the musicians who for many reasons resonated with me.....but more importantly was that he was a huge talent in his own right......Huge, huge, huge......Oh......how I wished that I had seen him in the east end up close and personal.......You were so fortunate Bill M that you were there.......

"Fonfara’s final recording was at Downchild’s 50th Anniversary party in 2019. The celebration included special guests Paul Shaffer, David Wilcox, Kenny Neal, Blues Brother Dan Aykroyd, and more. The music was captured for Downchild’s latest release Live at the Toronto Jazz Festival, which came out last year."

Included in article is a clip of .....Michael Fonfara.....made up a tune on the spot. He will always be present on some of my Louuu recordings and my Direct To Disc pressing (Recorded from the studio directly onto the master disc) of Rough Trade's Live! LP. On the recording he is listed as.....MICHAEL FONFARA

Keyboards
Classical musician
Arranger
Graduate of Electric Flagg, Rhinoceros, and the Louuuu Reed Band.
A REAL MAN OF THE WORLD.

:-D

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Ben Pike

Subject: A Bone to pick

Perhaps the main virtue of Cat Stevens "Mona Bone Jackon" is it's modesty, it's low key prettiness. Mapped out in a superset, it's seem pretty thin for the lavish treatment. The Demos are not the different, the live performances, some of them, raincoat level in sound quality. Let's face it, in terms of intellectual engagement, Cat is no Pete Townshead.

Cahoots is much more deserving of the super set treatment.

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John D

Subject: The Hawk

Called the Hawk this morning, wishing him a Happy 86th Birthday.

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brown eyed girl

I watched this morning the 1981Canadian film Alligator Shoes. The soundtrack was by Murray McLachlan. I missed the first half hour of the film so had no idea that it was supposed to have taken place in Cabbagetown, Toronto. When JM came downstairs the film was over and then Midnight had arrived. I asked him if he wanted to put on Stage Fright. Sure he said.....

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Peter V

Subject: The Midnight Sky

What? George Clooney and Felicity Jones and David Oyewole on Netflix at home? This must have been intended as an SFX blockbuster, but here it is. I’ll try to do short reviews of obviously major movies as they appear. THE MIDNIGHT SKY reviewed here. No plot spoilers either.

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Dag B.

Subject: Sleeping (Alternate Mix / 2020)

One of the bonus tracks on the new Stage Fright release.

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Peter V

Subject: An even better William Tell

Well, funnier.

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Peter V

Subject: William Tell

So, you want a rock version of William Tell? Here you go.

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Bill M

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Ragtime

Thanx Lisa, I like it, Wichita Lineman on speed...

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brown eyed girl

Vic Chesnutt's "Flirted with You All My Life".

David Hepworth's Blog...Lucas...."I saw RICK DANKO in concert three or four times in the 1990s, mostly in tiny venues. He always looked either slightly troubled or very ill, or both. I think one time he'd just been released from prison. That was at the Bottom Line in New York in April 1997. He looked like Jerry Garcia. LOU REED was there to see him too. But, no matter how bad he often looked, he opened his mouth and began to play and all of that seemed to vapourise. Not only did the music seem to wash anything negative away for the audience, but it also seemed to give him a kind of peace and joy which you suspected he didn't know how to find anywhere else."

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Lisa

Subject: Best of both worlds?

Ragtime, it's not Sibelius, but here's Glen Campbell playing the William Tell Overture with an orchestra.

Wow.

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Norm J

Subject: AAAaaaW Rats!

Yeah but they always just tell on you Lisa. Pretty interesting animals to watch and like a lot of animals very smart.....but. Did you ever see the movie or better read the book King Rat? I did years ago.

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Lisa

We used to have a neighbor (gone now, thank goodness) who set out peanuts by the bushel. Squirrels and rats and crows multiplied in very short order, and my Japanese-style garden was constantly being dug up by squirrels burying the peanuts. Then I got peanut plants sprouting all over the place. Like your neighbor, Norm, she was a very nice lady who doubtless thought she was doing a good thing, but I sure was happy when she moved.

I used to have a bird feeder many years ago and loved watching all the birds it attracted but had to give it up because of rats. I know most people think rats are awful, disease-ridden animals and I used to feel that way too, but not any more. They've been around my neighborhood all along - besides bird feeders we have a restaurant very close - and I've learned to live with them. As long as they stay outside and don't try to move in I leave them alone. I see all their pathways under the fences, etc. and I used to stop them up, but they just dug new ones so there didn't seem to be much point. And if you read about them, they are actually very interesting animals.

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Ragtime

Here's another find on YouTube, Bobbejaan Dylan and GE Smith rehearsing in 1987 for almost one-and-a-half hour. I'm wondering if GE ever played with Levon? Both great storytellers and very drole. And if you say Ragtime stop it, we know this stuff already and discussed it at length, please remember that I'm only occasionally strolling in, being a busy classical buff. Sibelius wants me... ;-)

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Peter V

I must have mentioned them. If you like them try The Webb Sisters and try Ward Thomas.

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Norm J

Subject: First Aid Kit

I'm not sure if any one has mentioned these girls here yet as I have not looked in often lately. These young sisters from Sweden have hit the airwaves like thunder. My daughter Amanda turned me on to them.

This song is "to pay homage to Gram Parsons and Emmy Lou Harris, also Johnny Cash and June Carter. This is very beautiful and these girls are exceptionally good singers. If you haven't heard it please give them a listen.

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Norm J

Subject: The Orange Maniac

Haso!! Iran has an arrest warrant out for Trump. So I just suggested to some of your countrymen on face book. Just hand him over! Let Iran have him.....it's quick, it's clean......done. However Bob Wigo wants me to get involved. He says if you can get your boat up the Potomac...we'll look after the rest. :-)

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Norm J

Subject: Bird Feeders

Haso, bird feeders are another thing. My guy across the street gets those bags of mixed seed for birds and throws it out in his drive way. There is mostly crows and pigeons. Those bigger birds when they come in a herd are flying around in circles all excited and shit all over our vehicles. It is a real piss of. Don is a nice guy and he is selling his place and moving back to Ontario. I hate to say it but the sooner the better. This is not a small thing. I don't know why but in some of those bird droppings it burns the paint on a car.

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Peter V

You do notice a large difference. In the south west much farmland is still enclosed by old hedges. On areas where hedges were stripped (tractors don't like them and you can plant up to the road), the hedges are being re-instated. Yet when we go to the South-East … Sussex and Kent … you see fewer hedges and in Kent where the farmland is particularly rich, and in East Anglia, far fewer hedges.

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Peter V

25-30 years ago the National Farmers Union used to hold a “Dorset Farm Day” on a farm every year with hay rides etc. We always took the kids. One year it was on a very early organic farm. The other farmers were joking about the issues of milking sheep and goats (Sheep’s cheese? it’ll never catch on, they thought). Then they discovered the farmer was getting double for her organic cereals and looked thoughtful! The farmer told us her family had been there for 300 years and took us to see the deciduous trees she was planting along field boundaries and in copses on hilly ground– as she said, a future generation would profit. It was all “furniture quality” wood.

Anyway, until this year we drove Poole to Bath ten times a year through rural Dorset and Wiltshire. A long stretch of farmland is “Perlewood Organics” and then all Prince Charles' land in Dorset is organic for his Duchy Organics range. They’ve definitely cottoned on to sheep and goat cheese and organic cereal and meat there. The result is that Mrs V, a keen countryside watcher notices there are far more raptors than there used to be … hawks and kestrels flying near the roadside … it still has old hedges, so rodent territory. Of course, that’s not good news for small birds either. It wasn’t good news for me when I hit some kind of large hawk at 70 mph either- the imprint covered the entire broken windscreen. Maybe hawks with greater body weight are less susceptible to chemicals? Or is it just there is more organic land in the area?

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haso

Subject: lisa/bill m

Just quickly, as there's obviously too much to watch on the telly, presently. But he's almost gone. It probably doesn't need to be said... the only good thing I can find is that agent orange doesn't appear to be atall suicidal, otherwise that might be the denoument, you know televised like some cheap, obvious knock-off of a law & order episode. What's that showrunner's name, Dick Wolf, right? The no-account acting DHS guy spells his name Wolfe, so I guess there's no through-line possible.

Anyway, your info on threatened species, has it about right. Anything in the bird-world that eats what we think of as pests is in serious decline. That's why such as Barn Owls are much less common; farmers rather poison rats and mice and voles and all that, than let them get controlled by natural predators. Plenty others, too, are threatened, especially from habitat loss. But, no doubt Robbie likely would have heard whippoorwills back in the day, when in Arkansas, if not elsewhere. Ricky, being from farming country, would also likely be well-acquainted w/ the nighttime racket they make.

Lisa & Norm: the deal w/ bird feeders, you touch on an interesting conversation. The general rule w/ Audubon-types is, if you are going to have feeders, stock them only in the Winter, to help the local populations make it through. Otherwise, they are thought mess w/ the natural processes of nesting, foraging, etc.

Everybody, be well.

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brown eyed girl

Encore Levon Helm Interview with Modern Drummer 1984....This time with all photos.

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jh

Diet Coke, anyone?

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Peter V

Subject: Best of 2020- MUSIC

A little later this year … my review of my favourite music of 2020. (LINKED) A limited year undoubtedly, but here you go. And the best album of the year is …

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Ragtime

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Bill M

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Ilkka Jauramo (Woodland, Finland)

Subject: Ragtime

Good to see my ol' friend here. He welcomed me to gb for over twenty years ago and got a lot of s**t for doing it. He really understood Sibelius' 'Karelian Suite'. - Please visit 'Citroen pictures from Provence' where you'll find my contact info and keep in touch!

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brown eyed girl

After the gold rush: Why Neil Young and other aging rockers are cashing in on song publishing
Canadian music industry veteran is at the centre of a new push for classic song rights
Eli Glasner
CBC News
Jan 08, 2021

"The man amassing the massive song collection is Hipgnosis CEO and founder Merck Mercuriadis. Born in Schefferville, Que., he grew up in Nova Scotia and reminisced with the New York Times about taking regular record-buying trips to Halifax. Now based in London, the former record-company executive is creating a new music publishing gold rush.

Why now? Perhaps the time is right — with rockers aging and U.S. tax changes afoot — or maybe, says music consultant Jane Dyball, the money is."

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brown eyed girl

NEWSGEAR
The Band’s Robbie Robertson is selling his legendary 16-channel Neve 8014
This console has processed the sounds of Eric Clapton, Van Morrison and The Wolf of Wall Street. Would you pay the price for its grandeur?
Sam Willings
January 8, 2020

Hei Ragtime....classical music expert. I've discovered that I like classical music when I'm watching ballet.

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Bill M

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Ragtime

Subject: T-bone Wolk & The Weight

Hello old friends!

I know there are many renderings of The Weight on the net, and maybe you know this one already, but anyway... I found a tribute to bassist Tom T-bone Wolk who passed away in 2010 and was shortly afterwards 'flown in' posthumously into a moving farewell by Daryl Hall, John Oates, G.E. Smith and other legends. T-bone himself is singing the Crazy Chester verse, from heaven.

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Bill M

Subject: Larry Green RIP

John D: Condolences on the loss of your old CHUM-FM buddy, Larry Green. The two of you were very important to the teenaged me. I first heard "The Stones I Throw" in the early '70s when you lent him your copy of the 45 to play on his afternoon show in the early '70s. I only met him once - earlier this millenium, possibly at a rather stunning tribute for Dianne Brooks held at the Rex - but I worked with his wife Sheila at Queen's Park for awhile in the early '80s.

A written tribute to him in today's FYI newsletter mentioned his early days as a copywriter at CHUM in the early '60s, and that reminded me that he got a writing credit on Garry Ferrier's "The President's Canada Conference" LP in 1963. (The link is to the minor hit 45 that birthed the LP.) He moved in talented circles, as the other writers on the LP (that I recall) included SNL founder Lorne Michaels (then still Lipowitz), Hart and Earl Pomerantz, Larry Solway and CHUM DJs Allen Farrell and Garry Ferrier (who went on to become a successful TV writer in LA).

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Norm J

Subject: The Flag

In every country we all have out flag. The symbol of our country we have our maple leaf which we show with pride. We fly them on our boats a modest size. However this thing in the USA that is really blown out of proportion. These no brain morons shows the kind of people Trump attracts. Storming their capitol with total disrespect carrying flags you could make your bed with. I don't get it.

Those soldiers at Fort McHenry in 1814 fought with the flag as their symbol and Francis Keys wrote those words about that flag. I doubt those soldiers had in mind what went on yesterday.......unbelievable.

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Peter v

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Bill M

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Peter V

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Peter V

If you love birds in the garden, you can't keep a cat. Our ex-neighbour had bird feeders all over the garden and two hoses set up and connected and would spray any cat that entered his garden with cold water. We have some nesting boxes and you invariably find cats hiding in bushes watching for the fledglings.

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Lisa

And Norm, we also have a bird-feeding neighbor, all year long. I don't know about the birds, but the rats are doing just fine, thank you.

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Norm J

Subject: Holdit, holdit holdit

I don't kill 'em Bill. My little pellet gun just makes them jump. My Cat Flynn now on other hand I can't stop that guy from killing birds. He just figures that's his job. He has even killed blue jays. I give him hell. The crows go nuts about 20 of them in my front tree screaming at him.

The guy across the street from me is a good guy but he pisses me off feeding those damn birds because they crap all over our vehicles. Up here there is no shortage of trees forest and wilderness so they can stay out there where they belong!

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Talk From The Rock Room
Freelance Writer from Upstate NY ranting about bootlegs, concerts, guitars, classic rock and records.

Sunday, January 3, 2021
Put the Boot In: Bob Dylan and the Hawks – Live In Hartford October 30, 1965 - 'No Need to be Nervous'

"Unfortunately both Manuel’s piano and Danko’s bass play hide and seek on the circulating tape. Regardless, the on stage energy is tangible. Dylan continually spits out verses like a sour lemon with extra emphasis on lines like, ‘Jack the Rippahh’! Prior to Robertson’s first solo, Garth Hudson firehoses an audible multicolored wash across the stage to which Robertson responds aggressively. I swear I can hear a girl near the recorder remark, ‘You didn’t tell me about this’. ‘This’, being the 180 decibel rock and roll machine on the stage I would assume! The group reaches a steamy and rolling boil by the cuts conclusion with applause of approval rolling in from the audience."

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Cast No Shadow/Whipporwills

Bound with all the weight of all the words he tried to say
Chained to all the places that he never wished to stay
Bound with all the weight of all the words he tried to say
As he faced the sun he cast no shadow

As they took his soul they stole his pride (pride)
As they took his soul they stole his pride (pride)
As they took his soul they stole his pride (pride)
As he faced the sun he cast no shadow

Cast No Shadow...Oasis

Gonna hang (gonna hang) my sombrero (my sombrero)
On the limb (on the limb) of a tree (of a tree)
Coming home (coming home) sweetheart darling (sweetheart darling)
Just my rifle, pony and me
Just my rifle, my pony and me
(Whippoorwill in the willow
Sings a sweet melody
Riding to Amarillo)
Just my rifle, pony and me

My Rifle My Pony and Me (Rio Bravo)
Dean Martin and Rick Nelson

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Lisa

Vancouver crows are famous for their evening flight from all over to their roost in Burnaby. Wave after wave of them fly over at dusk - it's an amazing sight.

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Norm J

Subject: One more for the Birds

Yer on a roll B Lee keep at it. Some of the birds can be joyful and pleasing. If you haven't been to Australia listen to this kookaburra. Then consider a whole herd of 'em all around the town and they don't shut up. It can get pretty annoying. Like around our town here. The ravens and the crows get to arguing and can get damn noisy. Some times I got to take my pellet gun out and give one a sting. Then they all leave for the day.

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b.lee

Subject: Somebody, please...

Take this and run with it!

The Prez called down to Georgia, he was look for some votes to steal,

He was way behind, he was out of time, and he was lookin’ for a deal…

He said boy, you’re a Republican, right?

A RINO you might be, but We know We won, you old son-of-a-gun,

Kin’ you can find some votes for me?

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Bill M

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haso

Subject: D&tSH, poorwills

Peter: I for one loved how you drew in G. Marcus's philosophizing on the crossroads, the devil and all that. For whatever reason, I've enjoyed his writing and commentary/criticism. Although I know it can be pretty thick, at times. (Perhaps, I too am a bit loony; back during graduate school in architecture I enjoyed reading and writing about it more than practicing it, and if you know anything, we certainly don't need a genuine plethora of architecture critics running loose in the world).

Lisa: As to poorwills, Peterson tells me there are 3 other species in the family Caprimulgidae. One rarely sees any of them as they are very nocturnal. (Perhaps the nocturnal life, and the somewhat haunting call starts to explains the folk-relationship to death). Time was, though, you'd see Nighthawks on summer evenings flying around shopping center parking lots as dusk turns to full-on dark and they were pretty recognizable; but no longer very common. But also, if memory serves, you live out west/Canada-wise, right? I think the goatsuckers are mostly all Eastern species and as I never have heard any in 44 years in northern New England, would suggest that whippoorwills are more southerly. The place Glenn & I speak of is in southern Illinois on the Mississippi River. I'd agree w/ your take on Chickadees. The whippoorwill is one of those where it's call coincides w/ the name... kind of "whip-pour-WILL"; stretching out or even trilling a bit on the last syllable. We mostly learned calls by giving them words. With Black-capped Chickadees, it's funny because I always hear them as saying "YOU-did-it"; I don't recall what Doc taught us, but it wasn't that.

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Bill M

Glenn: Good question. A part answer might be that at least the final three songs are related. Maybe the others are too, but that'll take more thought.

Peter V: Yes - the song articles are a lot of work and we appreciate what you've given us. I come only with what Robbie would call a 'song sketch' and I will call a "Reader's Digest" version: Daniel, he of the sacred musical skills, has made a career based on said skills. He scores gigs, but is burdened. First, there's the results of the sacrifices has made to perfect his craft: lack of real friends, lack of family ties, lack of education and other marketable skills, and being tethered 'til eternity to an out-only-for-himself 'manager' who calls himself Col. Tom Parker. Plus, even more burdensome than the above, there's all the bullshit sniping and rumour-mongering to the effect that he got his skill not from hard work but from selling his soul to the devil. The only thing he has to look forward to in life is the occasional getaway to the country, where he can 'blow away the fog' by reliving his childhood - running through the clovered hills, with flocks of whippoorwills circling overhead. Let's hope he's right that those really are whippoorwills, which everyone knows but nobody's seen.

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glenn

I've always wondered about the fact that the sides of the Stage Fright album were listed as Part I and Part II, rather than side A and side B. Any significance to those designations?

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Peter V

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Rod

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Bill M

Peter V: Did you ever think of the song "Stage Fright" as something of a sequel to Daniel&tSH? All that stuff about the price the poor boy's paid certainly seems to fit, allowing for a shift from harp to voice. Even "The Rumour", the next song (and the final one on the original album), can be seen as getting in on the action - with the hurtful rumour being the idea that Daniel his soul had sold, and consequently no shadow did he cast.

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JQ

“Whippoorwill’s singing”, its first 2 words.

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Solomon

Happy New Year to one and all ! One song to start the new year ? Greg Brown - Whippoorwill !

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Lisa

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glenn

Oh yes Haso, those whippoorwill calls still echo in my ears! My goodness, they "blessed" us (blasted was more like it) many nights. Must have been in the tree right outside our bedroom window. Never saw one, but you couldn't miss those calls. I lost many hours of sleep to their seemingly nonstop calls. You have to experience it to really understand. Of course, we suffered through many episodes with cicadas there too. Had a spell of them here in Dallas this year too. Those Elsah hills harbored a lot of wildlife (and I'm not talking about the college students). Deer, turkeys, coyotes, raccoons, possums, snakes, foxes. And I still recall the first time I saw a male cardinal land on a snow covered branch just outside my kitchen window: what a beautiful sight! That bright red bird against the pure white snow. Lovely!

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haso

Subject: birds and 5

I loved reading your whole, admittedly 20-year-old, synopsis of Daniel, Peter, in reply to Ben. I always liked that song, even as 1st encountered in 1970. Truth-be-told there's no way I could have understood it then. Fascinating reading, now, especially for one who in 1970 was going to a quasi-religious school. Not exactly, but sort of and not actually worth explaining, right Glenn? '70 woulda been my jr. year or so in high school.

Then, Peter you hit it up for Norm and others, channeling Waylon Jennings "You know Hank done it 1st", well done.

At the same time, this discussion of birds is equally of interest, for one holding a B.S. in biology, and it was mostly about birds and wildlife in those days for me. (Back to Glenn... did you ever hear whippoorwills in Elsah? Man they used to call often, in the village; near our house at least (86 Mill St.).) It's a curious thing, whippoorwills, among many "goatsuckers" and passerines are in pretty serious decline, from what I understand. But perhaps not a surprise, as they are big consumers of bugs and any visit to a hardware store or garden center w/ their rafts of bug-killing sprays would suggest that bug-eaters probably aren't doing too well either.

I'm not exactly given to mysticism, but have experienced some of that sort of bird/death connection. I recall when our son's best friend perished at 23 in a car accident, a large hawk (a redtail, if memory serves), acted in a most unusual way just next to a treeline separating it from a bunch of us honoring her at her folks' house. For some reason I was certain there was something not haphazard to that.

Anyway, 5: Can't get enough of Live at the Academy... seems like Garth stands out more every time I listen (disc 3, again most recently). Anybody think there's more video of those 4 nights than the 3 songs I'm aware of (Don't, Walcott, & King Harvest)?

Joni: Taming the Tiger

Tedeschi Trucks Band: Revelator... also can't get enough of Midnight in Harlem & Bound for Glory; but do miss Kofi.

India.Arie: Acoustic Soul... for some reason her lyric "every freckle on my face is where it's supposed to be", seems like something you'd say, BEG. My wife too, given how many of them she has.

Buena Vista Social Club: Lost & Found.

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Peter V

Subject: Ten Little Indians

It’s been a while since I added to the 60s Retrospective series. This is TEN LITTLE INDIANS from 1965, a version of Agatha Christie’s And Then There were None, but with a happier ending.

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Mike Nomad

And Winter slumbering in the open air, wears on his smiling face a dream of Spring!

Happy New Year to all.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: NOMADIC MIKE'S BIRTHDAY! :-D

MIKE NOMAD'S BIRTHDAY TODAY!

Ignites continued interest in The Hawks

Kind spirit

Evinces humour

"Legends say that hummingbirds float free of time, carrying our hopes for love, joy and celebration.
The hummingbirds' delicate grace reminds us that life is rich, beauty is everywhere, every personal connection has meaning and that laughter is life's sweetest creation."

Unknown

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Peter V

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glenn

HAPPY NEW YEAR everybody!

Ring out the old, Ring in the new; Ring out the old, Ring in the new; Ring out the false, Ring in the true; Ring out the old, Ring in the new - George Harrison

Here's my last five albums for 2020: Ronnie Lane: Just For A Moment, Joe Cocker: Hymn For My Soul, Lucinda Willliams: Car Wheels on a Gravel Road, John Prine: German Afternoons, Paul: McCartney III.

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