The Band Guestbook, July 2009

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Jerry

My Dad God rest his soul loved Lawrence Welk and that show was on every week in our house. That should of been some form of child abuse I would have thought. I blame not finding The Band till I was damm near 40 on the crippling effect this show had on me.

Hey Peter, always good to start the day off with a good laugh

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David P.

It was under the auspices of the Welk Group that Vanguard's great catalog of recordings began to be reissued in the CD format. In addition to Ms. Baez and Ian & Sylvia, other Band connections included recordings by John Hammond and Eric Andersen. Mr. Hammond's "So Many Roads", kicked up by Robbie, Levon & Garth, became available on CD, although I still treasure my original mono & stereo Vanguard LP versions and the more recent heavy-vinyl reissue on the Cisco label.

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westcoaster

Subject: Someday Soon

Jan: Although, (as David says) Judy Collins had a huge hit with the song, over the many years I've sung the song, and watched Ian do it, it's not really a girly song.

You gotta get your mind wrapped around the story, of a young guy coming home from the service, and trying to chase his "cowboy dreams". Told from the girl, and how she's feeling about him is good, however if you listen to the lines, and what is in his head, "cowboyin'" is hard to stay away from.

Consider George Strait's, "Amarillo By Morning". Garth Brooks, "I'm Much Too Young To Feel This Damn Old" (in this song, a reference to "Chris Laduke" made Chris a lot of money in record sales.)

These are cowboy songs. David, have you ever paid much mind to Suzy Boogus cover of "Someday Soon"? I think I would say that is my favourite. Probably the one I least like is Mo Bandy.

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David P.

And yes, Ian & Sylvia's early catalogue was on the Vanguard label, now part of the Welk Music Group. This includes "Someday Soon" (from "Northern Journey") and "Four Strong Winds" (from the album of the same name). As a sidebar -- Judy Collins' wonderful cover of "Someday Soon" (on Elektra) featured the dynamic team of James Burton on lead guitar and Buddy Emmons on pedal steel.

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Jan F.

Yep, Claire, very strange. There it was -- gone.

J.F.

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westcoaster

Subject: Blowin????????

Jan; To add a little to your reference to Four Strong Winds. When we went thru this route before.......I forget how long ago. There is that cafe, in "The Village" there in Noo Yawk. I forget the name at the moment, some one will tell you it.

Anyway that is where Ian was when this conversation about "Blowin' in The Wind" took place, and Ian made the remark. He borrowed the keys to a friend's apartment, went over there and wrote "Four Strong Winds" in a very short time.

The kicker that is quite funny, is (sitting in an apartment in New York), writing a song about Alberta. As you must know, that is the Theme song of Alberta, for a long time now.

On another note of Ian's writing, (I have recorded, "Someday Soon" on my CD). It's just now finished Eddy called me and told me about 3 days ago. Just got to get the master down to the outfit to get the product produced now. Anyway, long about 1987 sometime, at "Boone County Cabaret" in Coquitlam just outside Vancouver, Ian and I were leaning on the bar, (Ian came in with his band to do a one night show when I was playing there with my band.) We were just yawing about music in general.

I said, "Someday Soon" is the best, but I sing the gawd damn song better than you do. He said, I KNOW! so why don't you record it. Every body else has. He said, it's the most recorded country song ever. Now I don't know if that's true,but at that time, he told me it had been recorded 104 times in different countries and languages.

Well I finally got it done anyway. Now I don't know how people will feel about my job on it, but the steel player, and harp player in my outfit do a superb job.

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Claire

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Jan F.

I'm glad everyone enjoyed the Lawrence Welk info and that Jerry found that awesome YouTube video. But, truth be known, I only posted the "One Toke Over the Line . . ." bit b/c of the article in RS about Levon.

Lunch listening today included Ian Tyson's "Four Strong Winds" (on CD, not radio). This song was written when Ian heard a Dylan song and said, "Sh**, I can write a song that good." Which Dylan song would that be?? Easy one, but please, steel trap mind David P, let the other kiddies have a go at it first.

J.F.

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Charlie Y

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Peter V

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David P.

One of Lawrence Welk's business enterprises, the Welk Music Group, bought Vanguard Records in 1985. Levon's "Dirt Farmer" and "Electric Dirt" are distributed by Vanguard. Of course, one of Vanguard's biggest hits was Joan Baez's version of "TNTDODD".

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S.M.

Love your "Freezing Norwegian" haiku!

Best by far.

I hope RR,Garth, and Levon appreciate Jan's efforts.

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Jan F.

Saw a replay of this last night on TV -- is that Mike Merritt on the bass?

J.F.

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Charlie Y

I'm also amazed that the Lawrence Welk version of "One Toke Over the Line" is on YouTube--and submitted by Mr. Brewer from Brewer and Shipley himself. That one is even funnier than William Shatner reading the words of Sarah Palin!

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Fred

Jerry: good find! I think this answers Charlie Y's query.

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Fred

Rod: yes, your ears were not playing tricks on you. I haven't seen the movie, but did catch the promo for it a whlie ago.

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Rod

Has anyone come across this movie/DVD?. The trailer I heard on another DVD had a sound track that sounded just like the last few bars of Stage Fright.

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Peter V

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Jerry

Clay Hart on Welk, singing TNTDODD

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Charlie Y

Jan: I would love to find that Lawrence Welk Show version of "One Toke Over the Line" on You Tube--or on PBS reruns--just as I'd love to see "The Shape I'm In" on the American Bandstand Rate-a-Record segment (which I saw on TV when it aired--REALLY).

Anyway, this brings us to a new thread: what Band song would most likely work in a Lawrence Welk version, played by a large group of musicians in matching polyester clothes, with women singing harmony under their big hair-sprayed perms? I'd have to nominate something with an accordian part since that was a big instrument on Welk's show. Let's say Dylan's "Masterpiece." I'd like to see that.

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Serenity

This Day in History, July 30

BAGHDAD Founded on 30 July 762 by the Abbasid dynasty, at the request of the caliph al-Mansur. The goal was to replace Harran as the seat of the caliphal government; however, a city of Baghdad is mentioned in pre-Islamic texts, including the Talmud, and the Abbasid city was likely built on the site of this earlier settlement. Baghdad eclipsed Ctesiphon, the capital of the Persian Empire, which was located some 30 km (20 miles) to the southeast, which had been under Muslim control since 637, and which became quickly deserted after the foundation of Baghdad. The site of Babylon, which had been deserted since the 2nd century BC, lies some 90 km (55 miles) to the south.

July 30th, 1733, the first Freemasons lodge was opened in what would become the United States.

What was Wrigley Field first? Chicago's Wrigley Field is one of the oldest and most cherished ball parks in the United States. The American tradition of singing "The Star-Spangled Banner" at the beginning of each baseball game started at Wrigley Field during the first game of the 1918 World Series. The ball park is affected by wind conditions more than any other major league park. Breezes off Lake Michigan favor pitchers, but winds blowing toward Lake Michigan make home run hits easy. It is the only park where it's more difficult to hit a homer down the foul line than to hit one 50 or so feet out in fair territory, because the bleachers protrude into the outfield.

In 1976, Kate Smith made her last public appearance on this date, singing her signature number "God Bless America" on a TV program honoring the U.S. Bicentennial.

Emily Jane Brontë ((30 July 1818 – 19 December 1848) was an English novelist and poet, now best remembered for her only novel Wuthering Heights, a classic of English literature. Emily was the second eldest of the three surviving Brontë sisters, between Charlotte and Anne. She published under the androgynous pen name Ellis Bell.

Top of the Pops, also known as TOTP, was a British music chart television programme, made by the BBC and originally broadcast weekly from 1 January 1964 to 30 July 2006. It was traditionally shown every Thursday evening on BBC1, before being moved to Fridays in 1996, and then moved to Sundays on BBC Two in 2005. Each weekly programme consisted of performances from some of that week's best-selling popular music artists, with a rundown of that week's singles chart. Additionally, every year there was a special edition of the programme on Christmas Day featuring some of the best-selling singles of the year.

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BIRTHDAYS:

George "Buddy" Guy (born July 30, 1936) is a five-time Grammy Award-winning American blues and rock guitarist and singer. Known as an inspiration to Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and many other guitarists, Guy is considered an important exponent of Chicago blues. He is the father of female rapper Shawnna and also has a son, Michael. He is the older brother of blues guitarist Phil Guy. Guy is known for his showmanship, playing his guitar with drumsticks, or strolling into the audience while playing solos. He was ranked thirtieth in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the "100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time".

Paul Albert Anka, OC (born July 30, 1941 in Ottawa, Ontario) is a Canadian singer, songwriter, and actor of Lebanese origin. He became a naturalized US citizen in 1990. Anka first became famous as a teen idol in the late 1950s and 1960s with hits songs like "Diana'", "Lonely Boy", and "Put Your Head on My Shoulder". He went on to write such well known music as the theme for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and Tom Jones biggest hit "She's A Lady", and the English lyrics for Frank Sinatra's signature song "My Way".

DEATHS: Samuel Cornelius Phillips (January 5, 1923 – July 30, 2003), better known as Sam Phillips, was an American record producer who played an important role in the emergence of rock and roll as the major form of popular music in the 1950s. He is most notably attributed with the discovery of Elvis Presley, and is associated with several other noteworthy rhythm and blues and rock and roll stars of the period.

Take care and God Bless xoxoxo

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Serenity

Subject: My 2 cents

CHARLIE Y: John Mellencamp has cut down on his smoking from a 6-pack-a-day habit to 3 packs a day.[last I heard].When will he learn smoking kills. Look at Patrick Swayze? He was caught [which was on TV] smoking while doing chemo. They always learn too late.

Cya soon with trivia. xoxoxo

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Serenity

Thought this interesting that came in my e-mail

Seeger, Baez, contemporary acts play anniversary show at Newport folk festival

By Eric Tucker, The Associated Press

PROVIDENCE, Rhode Island - Joan Baez was just 18 when she performed at the first Newport Folk Festival, a self-described neurotic and high-maintenance teenager who remembers trembling in her sandals as she waited her turn on stage.

She sang in her signature soprano that night, and her career quickly took off; she released an album on a major record label, landed on Time magazine's cover and made repeat appearances at the festival alongside on-off romantic partner Bob Dylan.

"I didn't faint; I sang, and that was the beginning of a very long career," Baez says about her 1959 festival appearance. "It's all very extraordinary that my career has been going on all that long time and so has Newport."

Baez returns to Newport this weekend as the heralded festival marks its 50th anniversary. She shares the bill with 90-year-old Pete Seeger, another of the festival's original performers and a towering folk icon, as well as Arlo Guthrie, Judy Collins and more contemporary acts.

The half-century milestone lends an air of nostalgia to an event that not only helped pioneer the concept of grand-scale outdoor concerts but has also been inexorably linked to fierce social activism - especially in its early years.

"The Newport Folk Festival has always sort of been the standard bearer of early music festivals," says New York rock radio personality Dennis Elsas. "If you say, 'and they played the Newport Folk Festival,' it resonates a certain time. It resonates the time of Pete Seeger, Joan Baez and Bob Dylan."

The microphone was often a platform for promoting civil rights - and protesting war.

In 1963, Peter, Paul and Mary, Seeger, Baez, the Freedom Singers and other performers clutched hands and belted out the civil rights anthem "We Shall Overcome." That same year, his first at Newport, Dylan performed "Only a Pawn in Their Game," which recounts the assassination of civil rights activist Medgar Evers. And Baez joined audience members and representatives of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee on a civil rights march through Newport.

"I think it showed that songs can be an important thing in democracy," says Seeger, who will close out both nights of this year's festival with a singalong. "If we call this a democratic country, how do you make it a democratic country? And songs are among the ways it's made."

The folk festival was started in Newport by music impresario George Wein as an offshoot to his jazz festival, which began in 1954 and celebrates its 55th anniversary in August.

"There was a utopian feeling there," says Wein, 83, who continues to operate both festivals. "All the artists got $50, no matter how big or how small they were. And the money was used to just go out and find folk performers and bring them up the next year."

Baez had been making the coffeehouse and folk club circuit in the late 1950s when she caught the attention of folk singer Bob Gibson, who invited her to appear alongside him at the first Newport festival.

The pair sang "We Are Crossing Jordan River" and "Virgin Mary Had One Son." The audience of thousands was the largest Baez had ever seen, and she was hardly the self-assured performer she may have seemed.

"Looking back, I barely know that child who stepped onto that stage," Baez says. "That child who was up on the stage was 18 years old and had a high, high soprano and was as neurotic as anybody could possible be - and was high, high maintenance."

The festival did more than advance her career. Guthrie introduced his epic "Alice's Restaurant" to a mass audience in 1967. James Taylor played there in 1969 at age 21 and Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison were there before becoming household names.

Then, of course, there's Dylan.

He was 22 at his first Newport performance in 1963 and easily solidified his role in the folk canon, bellowing out topical solo ballads with his guitar and harmonica.

He famously turned the genre upside down in 1965 when he performed with an electric guitar.

"I was so mad myself, I said, 'Damn it, if I had an axe, I'd cut the cable,"' Seeger recalls.

Baez says she felt betrayed, though the sentiment passed.

And Wein recalls coaxing Dylan to return to the stage - unplugged - to assuage the crowd.

"I said, 'There'll be a riot out there, Bobby, if you don't go back.' He said, 'I don't have a guitar.' And I said, 'Does anyone have a guitar for Dylan?' Of course, 20 guitars went up in the air."

The festival dwindled in popularity in the late 1960s as interest in rock music peaked, Wein says. Rowdy fans crashed the gates at the 1971 jazz festival, and Wein temporarily relocated the event to New York. The Newport City Council voted that same year against a folk festival, which wouldn't return to the city until 1985.

Baez and Seeger have performed on and off at Newport over the years, and Dylan returned in 2002.

Festival organizers contemplated making the 50th anniversary into a reunion show but decided contemporary acts, including the Decemberists, Neko Case and Iron&Wine, should be included too, says co-producer Jay Sweet, explaining: "If you don't continually replenish with the newer voices that will then become their generation's voices, if you don't do that, there's going to be a gap there."

CYA soon xoxoxo

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abby

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Ari

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Landmark

Entourage. Ari Gold is my saviour!

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Joan

Also the last season of Monk.

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Brien Sz

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sadavid

Subject: hold the garlic

The Globe's John Doyle - unusually - has it wrong. The second best thing on TV right now is _True Blood_. The best thing is the opening credit sequence for _True Blood_.

Bill M: If s & u don't work, revert to aggrieved hostility: "Why are you always bugging me?"

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Steve

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Bill M

Jan F: As sadavid and Steve should remember from their own youts, the sullen and uncommunicative stance was invented precisely to ward off parental questioning. In the event that Mom and Dad caught Brewer and Shipley on Lawrence Welk and wonder what 'toke' means, your only hope is that they'll think better of asking you because you're so difficult to talk to.

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Pat B

The House of Lords judgement reinstating Matthew Fisher's lawsuit to get a share of A Whiter Shade of Pale.

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Jan F.

Subject: Oldies Radio

Had to run out for lunch again today. No, I don't get out much. Heard this on the syndicated oldies station. Seemed appropriate.

ONE TOKE OVER THE LINE

Brewer & Shipley

One toke over the line sweet Jesus

One toke over the line

Sittin' downtown in a railway station

One toke over the line

". . . the song was performed on The Lawrence Welk Show, a television program known for its conservative, family-oriented

bent. . . . “

see link above for reference & more info.

J.F.

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Steve

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Serenity

Subject: Foreigner

LINK: News on this great group. "I Want To Know What Love Is" is one of my faves.

More trivia to come.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE XOXOXO

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Steve

By the way, their remedy when the shit started to hit the fan was to print more money which brought the whole system down. The US started printing more money over a year ago, I think.

My US relatives in Rhode Island tell me that unemployment there is now 12 percent and probably will over 13% when the most recent numbers come out. They say the state has no money and it's only the fed's stimulus money that is keeping the roads and other infrastructure in repair right now. Thank god for the Chinese workers who've been saving their yen.

The program pointed out that a dispute between the US and China will probably bring down the whole world economy at some point. They then listed off all the possible triggers and there are many. They also reminded the viewers that these huge crashes happen once the people in charge are young enough not to have lived through the last collapse. That time is already here.

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Bill M

Steve: The name of the ruling party aside, what is communist about China? How about 'totalitarian capitalism'?

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Jan F.

J.F.

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Bill M

Does anyone else remember the "Star Drek" bit that Dr Demento used to play?

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Steve

The PBS program we watched last night , The Ascent Of Money, did a segment on the lending of money and the decision to turn the American middle class, excluding blacks, into property owners starting in the 40's.

It also covered the Savings and Loan rip off in the 80's. What a deal that was. If you want an example of the moneyed class getting to stick their hands into taxpayers pockets and take what they want look no further. Reagan, the man who hated taxes and regulation, cut the lending laws and backed all S and L loans with the taxpayers wallet. In brief; The S and L's were able to give large depositors a really high interest return on their money that they knew was unsustainable ( the US treasury was holding the bag). The S and L's then took the money from depositors and started buying up land, lending developers money to buy the property ( from the S&L's) and to build on it. In the end it cost the US treasury 112 billion when it finally crashed as everyone involved knew it would. Sound familiar? Texas was the hole where most of the money went. Those hard working rich bastards, gotta respect their ambition. ( There's gotta be a haiku in there)

But I digress. The info that sticks after watching the program is that if you're in the money lending business and you want to be paid back lend it to women.

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Peter V

Just yesterday, someone was talking about The Beatles attempt to get rights to Lord of The Rings in the late 60s. Among themselves they had cast it. Paul as Frodo, Ringo as Sam, George as Gandalf and John as Gollum. That’s so right.

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Peter V

Don’t know about the Star Trek casting. I think you’d put either Rick or Robbie in the “romantic lead” position. Kirk gets all the interesting clinches, and objectively (i.e. to most people), back in the day, they were the two conventionally best-looking ones.

Both Shatner and Nimoy were heavily criticized for their singing. Kirk was the “leader” but Spock was cooler and more intellectual. Robbie would groove well into the Spock part. Rick as the dashing hero plunging into alien planets without a second thought.

Scotty … strong different accent to the rest of the crew, which suggests Levon. But technical genius suggests Garth (the warp drive on the Lowry’s gone, Captain, we’ll have to busk Chest Fever on my old accordion). Then again, Levon should be the engine room of the enterprise, holding it all together. So Levon.

That puts Garth back as Dr McCoy, and Richard as Chekhov … doesn’t get seen that much in the pictures.

Uhuru? No one. Albert Grossman as various aliens.

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Charlie Y

One of the many highlights of what was billed as "The Bob Dylan Show" at Harbor Park (home of the Norfolk Tides minor league baseball team) here in Old Virginny last Saturday evening was Willie Nelson singing the late Steve Goodman's classic "City of New Orleans." Thanks to Serenity's recent post here, I realized that Saturday was actually what would have been Mr. Goodman's birthday.

Anyway, despite standing for five straight hours to maintain what amounted to tenth row center sightlines of the stage--not to mention GREAT sound--I had a wonderful time at the show, finally seeing Dylan up close. It was my seventh time seeing him since the first time on the 1974 tour with The Band, and--to quote my daughter--"I didn't think his voice sounded that bad." I think each of the seven shows have enabled me to get a bit closer to the stage, so I may have to "retire" from Dylan shows now.

Opening act, The Wiyos have added a country-swing element with their new steel guitar guy, who is also an excellent singer. They are all that is exciting about the "Americana" label and the crowd displayed lots of appreciation (and several were heard to ask, "who ARE these guys?") even though The Wiyos went on for just a half hour at 5:30 PM precisely, just as Willie Nelson began his one hour set precisely at 6:10 and ended at 7:10. General Bob kept his troops in line.

Mr. Mellencamp was as amazing as ever, not slowing down nor stopping smoking despite his heart attack from a few years back. His set was easily the most energized of the evening, and it was REALLY nice to be that close to the action. He slowed things down at one point when he played a moving new song about dreams and was clearly appreciative of the great crowd response afterward. The crowd had a lot to be appreciative about all evening.

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Charlie Y

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Pat

Hard to think how this could happen.

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Pat B

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Brien Sz

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JQ

Steve - Our price of gas is, theoretically, a competitive number, but we really only get any meaningful price variance from state to state. Rarely, if ever, do prices here vary locally amongst competing stations. Whether or not there's a formal collusion to hold a single price (except by a few pennies only) that's how it ends up and it's hard to believe that a state controlled price would not be of benefit to consumers here - even if it's a higher price to help us get off the stuff.

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Pat B

By typing zeroes and ones

Bathes the Band with light

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Pat B

In the summer heat

Neocons dropping their pants

Faithful wives be damned

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Brien Sz

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Steve

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Steve

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Charlie Y

Since Shatner was born in Montreal and The Band is 80% Canadian, I reprise my Star Trek and Band analogy from years ago:

Captain Kirk = Levon

Mr. Spock = Robbie

Scotty = Rick

Chekov = Richard

Dr. McCoy = Garth

Actually, I'm not so sure this is correct, but feel free to argue.

By the way: it really is hilarious to hear older people who use Medicare or Medicaid attack the Democrats for wanting to bring "socialized medicine" to the US. Sort of like the typos I invariably see on Fox News whenever I tune in for five minutes. I suspect they are using illegals to proofread their on-screen text. Probably not Canadians, though.

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JQ

Bill M - I think the way we normally handle utilities (gas, water & electricity) in America: 1 vendor, deeply regulated, no competition & modest profits, seems to be approaching socialism, albeit lite, too. Or it could be just an effective hybrid of economic systems. And the end user here normally gets a decent value, terrific availability & adequate service.

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Kevin J

I was at a party a few nights ago where Beck’s Non Alcoholic beer was served. Without a doubt the best of that type I‘ve ever tasted. Thankfully, the music and guests at the shindig were of a more dangerous flavour!!......Non Alcholic beer, e-cigarettes and condoms…….geez…wish I had come of age 30 years earlier and had a chance to enjoy less stressful times!

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Bill M

Thank you Jerry. I'll say two things: 1) Shatner is a much better teleprompt reader than is the MSNBC guy; and 2) I couldn't help but think of Carlin's Hippie Dippy Weatherman when His Shatship got to the bit about the cold weather a few months ago and also a few months from now. Like, tonight's forecast - dark!

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Jerry

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Charlie Y

dlew: don't be too impressed with my haiku since I "borrowed" the last line from a Capitol Records billboard which went up in Hollywood (I think) for a while on the release of the brown album. It was the front cover photo with a big caption which simply said, "THE BAND Playing THE MUSIC." Note that the caps were Capitol's caps, since record companies were not known for subtle messages back then. A photo of the billboard ran in TV GUIDE at the time, but I have no idea why.

I did, however, follow the haiku rule about mentioning a season in the first line, though, since Levon and Robbie are both men for all seasons.

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Bill M

Flipping through a crate of albums, what should crawl into my hand (honest!) but an LP I'd totally forgotten I owned, "The Best Of Touch The Earth", TtE having been a long-running CBC radio show hosted by Sylvia Tyson circa '75-'80. All 25 cuts were recorded for/during the show - a 15-year-old Colin Linden, Willie P Bennett, Jean Carignan, David Wiffen, Valdy, David Rea, Figgy Duff, Stan Rogers, Bim, Lisa Garber, Mac Masters (that's for Joe J) ... Nice to see there's also one by the much overlooked Bruce Murdoch, a Montrealer who made something of a splash in NY folk circles in the early '60s - LP on Electra, inclusion on Hootenaney anthologies of the day, another album on ESP (I believe), but then nothing. The TtE notes have him living around Calgary.

Joan: The Murdoch reference reminds me of a couple of books that you, if nobody else, would appreciate - "Poetry of Relevance" and "Poetry of Relevance 2" by Homer Hogan, an EngLit prof at the U of Guelph. They came out in the very early '70s and the first volume were a text in my grade 11 English class. What they, and Hogan's follow-up, "Listen" attempted to do was make traditional poetry approachable by linking certain poems thematically alongside folk songs. Mostly Canuckistani - Cockburn, MacLauchlan, Cohen, Mitchell, JR Robertson, Bruce Murdoch, Buffy Ste Marie, William Hawkins, but others as well. In "Listen", "Life Is A Carnival" is grouped with three 'real' poems about performing in Toronto (mostly on Yonge Street), including one by Doug Fetherling, who later would devote a chapter of a prose book to Robbie Robertson. I have to add that, in one of those incidents that seem too pat to be true, I decided that I would use a Cockburn song, "Bird Without Wings", as the subject of my compulsory stand-up commentary. And that very weekend, what should appear in the 10-cent bin at the nearest Sayvette store but the Three's A Crowd recording of the song. Fortunately the classroom had a record player, and I was saved an awful lot of talking.

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Jan F.

Has anyone else read the article on Levon in the current Rolling Stone? Apologies if this has been discussed while I was in the ATL.

J.F.

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westcoaster

Subject: The deep

Now on water....

She floats free...

In deep, she sleeps

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Steve

Well..., that's what I thought Bill

But sometimes you're so deep

It's refreshing

Sadavid, good to hear all the teeth came home and in place. I thought mosh pitting was a thing of the past. I guess not. Thank god for medicare.

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Bill M

Re politico-economic nomenclature, it seems to me that during at least the last 40 years of its existence the USSR was not - for the most part - a communist system. It was a socialist system and a totalitarian one, but those two certainly don't always go together - witness much of Europe much of the time. In fact, the USSR gave communism a bad name. There are people all over the place practicing it sustainably - sometimes ethnic groups leading traditional lifestyles, sometimes religious groups, like the Hutterites in western Canada, who were so so successful that laws were passed to stop them from buying up surrounding farms. (The issue was complicated, but was ultimately based on their success.)

Re right-wing talk show hosts, what I'm waiting to see is a diatribe along the lines of, "What really nauseates me is our sheeplike acceptance of a socialised military. We have allowed a veritable fifth column of wild-eyed tax-funded zealots to send its minions to the capital to push around our chicken-livered politicians and bureaucrats and run our country as they see fit. They use our tax dollars to buy expensive toys that they put in the hands of our impressionable young men and women - and send them off to do their bidding some god-forsaken hellhole that we don't even care to find on a map. And why should every single person in this country, which was founded as we well know on the principles of democracy and personal responsibility, receive exactly the same amount of military coverage as everyone else, even if they paid a hundred or a thousand times more in taxes. That is socialism. That is communism. That is not what this country was built on. And that must stop."

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sadavid

Steve: the heirs were perhaps slightly less sullen and uncommunicative, post-'concert,' but "valuable info?" - no.

I was just relieved to know they hadn't lost any teeth.

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abby

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Steve

Were you able to get any valuable info out of your heirs after the Metallica\Slayer concert?

Abby, nice combo of a GB participant, Band music and yesterday's GB hot topic, but I think it'll be hard to beat Peter's haiku that ended with stuff you gotta watch. That was a chuckler.

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sadavid

Subject: trial by limewire

dlew919: thanks for the 'music mags' link. I found this link within the article - on the use of 'music' by 'interrogators' at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere - to be even more interesting. As one whose heirs are still boasting about their 'VIP' passes to a recent Metallica / Slayer 'concert' (I take it the extra $$ bought them a greatly enhanced risk of random injury in the 'mosh pit'), I have more than a little sympathy.

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abby

King Harvest has surely come // Ouch! Pitchfork pierces foot - no problem // Farmer Steve is covered

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Peter V

Interesting note on that one. I wonder if they'll issue full file quality. I noticed in the car that CDs sound noticeably better than my iPod through the same system (dedicated iPod input is built in). All my iPod files are Apple Lossless (not full WAV files, but certainly way bigger than MP3s). I tried it on the same track taken from the same album. A friend said it was probably that the CD player has a better D/A converter, rather than file size. But I wouldn't want to buy another scaled down format. Also, will you physically get an object? If it's all downloads then if you lose it, or it breaks, your sound library goes with it.

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dlew919

Richmond, Spring, May 10

Tracks ripped up, Caine's brother dead

Drive Old Dixie Down

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dlew919

Carnival in Spring

'King Harvest' is surely come

Listen: Wind on Rice

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Peter V

Winter in the barn

Relentless boogie playing

Stuff you gotta watch

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Peter V

Bird with a broken wing falls

The snake by the lake

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Steve

I don't want to be the one to bring down the rules on anyone's haiku but there is supposed to be a reference to a season in the first line. I figured that out after I read Brien's and then checked the rules.

Bill, my family would be proud? What was that about? I never figured it out.

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dlew919

Pulled into Naz'reth

Feeling about half past dead

A load's off Fanny ...

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dlew919

We don't get many music mags here - I'll get Mojo, or Classic Rock (!), and occasionally RS - they're mostly British or US: the trouble with that of course, is that advertised gigs, for example, are useless to me. Much as I'd like to visit the Reading Roxy, its not happening in the short term...

There are a few Oz mags - RS does an Australian versioin (which is like Rolling Stone US, except nowhere near as good). the free magazines are generally pretty ok - in so far as you get what you pay for!.

I'm glad you enjoyed it Rod - hope others do too!

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Peter V

I buy most of the music mags (not CLASSIC ROCK or Q though).

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Rod

dlew919 - thanks for the interesting link. I stopped buying music mags when sites like this one started appearing. You can find out more about most things for free on the net than you can find in magazines.

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Peter V

What was much nicer in the USA was helpful volunteer retired people giving out information with time to chat. In British hospitals volunteers serve tea and newspapers, but in that one US hospital at least they’d been given a more useful and interesting role.

Another comparison is the US surgeon talking to you in scrubs. In the UK, you always wait until the surgeon has changed into the obligatory blue pinstripe suit with necktie. A report found that surgeons’ neckties were seething with MRSA bugs, as were their suits, but the tradition that authority is vested only in a dark blue suit seems unshakeable in the UK. The report suggested that surgeons wearing scrubs outside theatres too would cut down hospital infections considerably.

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Serenity

Subject: Babies

LINK: This is an unbelievable video from youtube,com. Enjoy!!

CYA soon xoxoxo

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dlew919

Subject: Why Music Magazines are dying...

INteresting...

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Serenity

Subject: Tracy R.

LINK: Elvis singing "Happy Birthday" to our old friend Tracy, wherever you are?

Take care God Bless xoxoxo

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Lars

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Friend0

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Charlie Y

Levon and Robbie,

With Garth and Richard and Rick;

The Band Played The Music.

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Steve

As far as medication goes you have to pay the first 100 bucks yourself each month then the gov't reimburses you anything above that.

The interesting part is that our gov't spends less per ca pita for full coverage on health care than your gov't does on the portion of the population it covers.

Single payer, all doctors in the same system is the simplest and cheapest way to go.

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Joan

At the moment, I don't have the energy to write out my "dance" with major med during my last 2 surgeries. I will try later. We were paying $1800 a month for 2 of us with Blue Cross. They felt brain surgery was only worth $4000. I am one person who is thrilled with Medicare. Monthly cost is less than 1/2 (and so is the aggravation level)

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Pat B

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Pat B

Brien, I agree about the Dem's focus problems, but I think they are endemic to a party that represents a far larger share of the country. Yet the Dems who oppose HC reform--the Blue Dogs as they are called--receive huge political contributions from Big Med and Big Pharma. As a wag once said, money doesn't talk, it swears.

sadavid, here's one definition of socialism: "Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy." Cheney was certainly responsible for distributing goods and controlling their production by directing massive government spending--deficit spending I might add--to the companies he ran and in which he still owned interest. However, I see your point too.

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Brien Sz

The perception of Socialism and communism back in the 70's and 80's was that they were essentially the same - and as I said before, valid or not - it was a general perception. Have we been brainwashed - no doubt but who hasn't when it comes to varying agendas.

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Peter V

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Steve

I think The Ruskies were commies( no vote gulag types) not socialists. Compare yourself to socialist democracies like the ones in Northern Europe if you want a fair comparison.

The nice thing about our system in a case like Deb's it's seamless. Your coverage has nothing to do with your job. You leave and you're still covered.

One stat that seems to point to our system having some advantage over the US is the life expectancy difference. It's probably because women get better pre natal care and the survival rate of babies is higher. Problems are found earlier in pregnancy since everyone gets pre natal care.

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sadavid

Pat B: I'm no Poli Sci guy, but I think Cheney (et al.) would be an example of totalitarian capitalism, not socialism. I guess socialist regimes tend to totalitarianism, or maybe that's just the way we North Americans are conditioned to think about them (somewhat the way Brien - I think it was Brien - misconstrued the demise of the USSR as proof that socialism is bad). I think of the Cheney way as 'government for the person, by the person' - the 'people' are just means to an end.

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Brien Sz

Just a quick aside - I am someone who doesn't not like liberal views - I tend to think a good amount of the ideas are just fine. My beef comes in paying for it. Where does the money come from? Who is going to pay for it? How is it going to be paid and who will be affected by it - this generation or the next - I hate passing the burden to the next round. With a deficit higher than it has ever been - which why when Republicans run a high deficit Dems come screaming about it - but when a Dem is in office, we'll just brush it under the rug - money knows know political color - it's just green.., why are we looking to spend more money? I sit on the board of two organizations and am the President of one. 3/4 of our issues are money based. Every plan or idea that comes forward are full of good intentions by well meaning people, commitees, etc.., the issue at hand is always - where is the money coming from - how do we pay for it. Believe me when I tell you I'd love to green light a multitude of projects, but I can't. I have to weigh what is wanted and needed - look for where things can be cut or added to produce more revenue to fund projects. It's a tough situation and maybe because I'm frugal by nature, I scan through every dime but there's also a reason why I've run a show for 5 years because I'm productive, fair minded, pragmatic and sometimes a straight ahead prick but I've never put any organization in financial straights or close to it..., just won't. I try to keep the present in check, have funds for the future and always enough stashed to take care of emergency situations.., because a year never goes by without some kind of out of the blue expense rearing its head. So if you want to know why I harp on certain viewpoints, it comes from this basic fiscal philosophy.

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Bill M

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Pat B

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Pat B

Isn't it odd that the last two Democratic presidents have both tried to address the two biggest problems we face--Carter and energy, Clinton and health care--and thanks to Republican intellectual absurdity and simple Friedmanesque greed, both remain our biggest problems. And "free" markets are still being manipulated to line the pockets of the few.

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Brien Sz

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sadavid

Subject: undriving the stake

"The major music . . . labels are attempting to revive the multi-track album format with new software that packages songs, traditional album liner notes, music videos, and other interactive extras as part of a premium-priced package."

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Peter V

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Deb

I agree, I don't know why the concept of "socialized medicine" is such a bogey-man for so many people. Several of my family members, myself included have problems that stem from autoimmune issues. My symptoms require several daily pills and a weekly injection, none of which are cheap. It took six months to convince the insurance company on my last job to copay the injections. They did it, but almost immediately my job situation became increasingly unpleasant. When I changed jobs, my new insurance provided a reasonable copay without batting an eye -- after a nine month waiting period since it was a preexisting condition. I'd have been happy to see the government jump into that one. If I could go nine months without treatment with no ill effects, I wouldn't need the injections at all.

Entered at Tue Jul 28 20:56:33 CEST 2009 from (165.112.214.196)

Jan F.

Re: Peter's post: Our local NHS (National Health Service) doctors operate a triage system, so that you have to go through a telephone check before anyone will see you on the same day basis, and then it’ll probably be a junior doctor in training, not a partner. Though they’ll bring a senior doctor in if they feel it needs one. I mentioned that triage was a battlefield term separating casualties into “going to die anyway” from “attend to”. No one laughed. I could see a doctor today for a simple med or emergency issue. I might wait two weeks to see a partner of choice for a more general consultation. Night calls would now be given over to a Deputizing Service.

Uhh. . . that's pretty much the way it works here in the US. Not sure what all the fuss is about with "socialized medicine." I'm assuming the scary part is having our (long ago) broken government manage the health care, not only in the "field" but the complicated payor sytem that it would involve.

I was in Atlanta the last few days to see RJ off to Japan. He got there safely, but while I was there, my older sister fell and cracked a bone in her hip. She is in a small hospital south of ATL and they were preparing to send her to a rehab hospital for further treatment/physical therapy, etc. During a followup x-ray before she was moved, the x-ray technician reinjured her. He was unhappy that the test was ordered late in the day and he didn't get off work on time (he told her that!). Now she can't go to the rehab hospital. She will have to go to a nursing home for a while.

Mr. Steve got Elec Dirt while I was away. Have not had time to listen to all of it yet.

Deb, I took some pictures of Sprayberry's BarBQ in downtown Newnan yesterday . . . . ;-) J.F.

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Bill M

NB: Holy shit - bio says he's still with Vicky, which has been the case since, oh, '71! (Assuming it's the same Vicky, and not another of those I'm Henery The Eight I Am scenarios.)

Which reminds me of showbands, as per Peter V's post yesterday. The biggest of them around here were the Irish Rovers (the most Irish and least showy) and the Carlton Showband, who had a huge local hit with "We're Off To Dublin In The Green" (aka "The Merry Pluffboy" or something like that). The former were all Irish-born but'd been in Toronto since the late '50s and early '60s. Leader Will Millar's autobiog tells of playing solo in folk clubs across the country, following people like Joni Anderson and David Wiffen. And, of all things, calypso on Yonge Street. The Carlton Showband was mostly Irish but had a couple of Maritimers too. There was also Peter Law and the Pacific, who I think had come from a career back in Ireland too (unlike the others). Aside from TV, the closest I've come to such a group was maybe 12 years ago in a small hotel in Tenby, Wales. As Peter suggests, those guys could play - and play anything.

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Brien Sz

Peter makes some very good points. And one that came out was the whole "junior" doctor. I don't know how well that would play here. Some folks might not care but I can bet there's a host of people who don't want to believe that their condition is to be treated by the secondary player, no matter how trivial. It will be interesting to see how this plays out...., it is quite obvious that some change needs to occur and especially for the poor. Yet when 84% of Americans have some form of health coverage, it is a lot to ask them to now foot the bill for something many of them don't need -especially in the middle of an economic crisis.

and where is all this extra revenue coming from - Just how much can one pull from the rich? Obama proposes a tax on those making a combined income of 280K plus to fork over up to 56%-58% of their pay in taxes. Now a 60-40 split isn't fair in any regard.., sorry.., exactly what incentive is their then to want to better yourself to that plateau if you then know you are going to get screwed for close 60% of your pay?

I would think it would benefit both parties to work out a plan that addresses the needs of the 16% that could use some sort of plan at a cost a whole lot less than what is now being bandied about.

I actually heard a tax that would raise a considerable yearly sum. It's an odd sin tax but when you think about it, it truly is taxing a product that has no health benefit what-so-ever. A 3cent tax on every can of soda, with a possible 5cent tax on every bottle. Now that would generate a lot of money - I believe the figure was 24 billion over 3 years on the can tax alone - I can't recall off the top of my head.

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NB

Subject: Bill M./ More on Gunner

Yes, an exceptionally nice guy as you say. Blessed with athletic ability. Cursed with small stature. (Smaller than Mike Weir, I'd say). I knew him fairly well through the golf. Furthest thing from a private club brat you could find. Was head pro at Port Hope before heading up to Ottawa. NB

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Pat B

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Bill M

NB: I had no idea! Graham G, who was always an exceptionally nice guy, is another of those people I went to school with all the way from grade 1 to grade 12. My one dinner at his place, when I was 10 or 11 I guess, was quite exotic by my standards: his mother was a walking talking Scot, strong accent and all, and she served soup before the main course - something I wouldn't experience again until I was way into adulthood.

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Peter V

A doctor who is a friend has lectured in the USA and has been asked to re-locate there several times. He said that the amount American specialists pay in liability insurance is mind-boggling, so that he would have to charge almost triple to go home with the same amount. He said the money doesn’t go to medical care, but to insurance companies and in the end to lawyers.

Our local NHS (National Health Service) doctors operate a triage system, so that you have to go through a telephone check before anyone will see you on the same day basis, and then it’ll probably be a junior doctor in training, not a partner. Though they’ll bring a senior doctor in if they feel it needs one. I mentioned that triage was a battlefield term separating casualties into “going to die anyway” from “attend to”. No one laughed. I could see a doctortoday for a simple med or emergency issue. I might wait two weeks to see a partner of choice for a more general consultation. Night calls would now be given over to a Deputizing Service.

Every European country has socialized medicine. I don’t think any party has been “against” it since the 1950s. I know from relatives and friends that France and Germany are better than Britain in health care (but not rock music).

You still have choice in Europe. Many people have top-up private health insurance (vastly cheaper than the USA because it doesn’t deal with emergencies or accidents). You can choose your specialist, you can see someone more quickly, you can go to a private hospital if you have top-up insurance. But no one fails to get treated because they’re poor, and no one gets beggared by medical bills. I believe the USA is the only developed nation without a socialized medical system. That is a disgrace.

The NHS is in crisis here. Hospital care from the experiences of two relatives recently has been poor, but that’s got more to do with nurses who feel themselves over-qualified to wash or shave patients, and they are indeed vastly more highly qualified than 30 years ago. But for a lot of the jobs you need empathy, not qualifications.

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Charlie Y

In an interview in Sunday's NEW YORK TIMES MAGAZINE, Arlo Guthrie was asked where he is politically these days. His response? He said he became a registered Republican five or six years ago. I think he's serious. He supported Ron Paul for president, but that's perhaps not as embarassing as Jackson Browne's choice to campaign for John Edwards.

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Lars (Oct 18, 1984)

Subject: Two miles to drag myself with a broken hip

I am in my tree.
I hear a crack and I fall.
I am one with earth.

(Dedicated to my Empire Blue Cross/ Blue Shield)

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Northern Boy

Subject: Bill M./ Mystery Spartan Golfer (musical clues only, of course)

He has the first name as Nash, of CSN and shares his last name with Peter, as in The Theme From Peter_________. Not that you'd need to, but to cheat, simply see link. You still may not recall him, but he went by "Gunner". NB

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Serenity

Buddy Guy, Levon Helm, CSN Brighten Gathering of the Vibes 7/27/09,

The storms that ripped through Seaside Park in Bridgeport, Connecticut, over the weekend flooded parts of the concert field at the Gathering of the Vibes, making things smell as funky as some of the bands playing the four-day festival. But the foul weather didn’t discourage the enlightened spirits of the 20,000 or so gathered for the 14th year of the festival that began as a tribute to the late Jerry Garcia. Gathering of the Vibes has evolved into a dependable stop on the summer festival circuit — a sort of Bonnaroo-lite complete with mind-expanding music and consciousness-expanding chemicals.

Bob Weir, whose Ratdog headlined Saturday, joined Levon Helm for a brassy version of the Dead’s “Tennessee Jed” during Helm’s Cajun-tinged set. The Band’s legendary drummer performed horn-accompanied Band songs — “The Weight,” “Chest Fever,” “Long Black Veil” — and Bob Dylan’s “Simple Twist of Fate” alongside rollicking, traditional swamp blues and Mardi Gras-worthy rock. Weir, sporting an NBA tank top and white beard that was Jerry-thick, dipped into the Dead’s back-catalog for “Bertha,” “Bird Song,” a reggae-infused “Jack Straw,” and “Scarlet Begonias,” for which Weir was joined by former Grateful Dead vocalist Donna Jean Godchaux. Buddy Guy, wearing Pumas, took a break from the heat during his afternoon set to introduce Quinn Sullivan, his prepubescent prodigy, who shredded on Hendrix’s “Voodoo Chile.” His four-foot frame and Family Guy T-shirt were the only reminders Sullivan is a 10-year-old phenom and not a 72-year-old, grizzled blues legend. “I had to cool off,” Guy told the crowd. “But you didn’t miss nuttin’ — he’s a monster.”

Crosby, Stills and Nash closed the Gathering of the Vibes by delivering the most family friendly set of the weekend. CSN opened with Stephen Stills’ hit “Love the One You’re With” and during “Southern Cross,” Stills forgot the second verse, but recovered in time to deliver a welcome guitar solo. More rain — and a tornado warning — made CSN end their set promptly at 7:45.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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JQ

Brian Sz - Your story isn't even interesting as an anecdote. But your stretch (& moan) to extrapolate from that incident the problem of national health system is downright silly. Get a new doc if you can't wait for goodness sake.

You're in good company with Glen Beck. And you remain a GOP apologist.

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Pat B

STEWART: Are you saying the American public shouldn’t have access to the same quality health care that we give to our better citizens?

KRISTOL: To our soldiers? Absolutely. {Crowd boos}

Kristol explained that soldiers get paid less, but “one way we make it up to” them is by giving them “first-class health care.” “I feel like you’ve trapped me somehow,” Kristol observed. Indeed, Stewart explained the flaw in Kristol’s logic:

STEWART: I just want to get this on record — Bill Kristol just said that the government can run a first-class health care system.

KRISTOL: Sure it can. {Crowd applauds}

STEWART: And a government-run system is better than a private health care system.

Kristol tried to backtrack, saying he wasn’t sure the military system is “better,” and later argued that other government-run systems aren’t providing the best health care.

Stewart wrapped up Kristol’s argument by stating, “So what you are suggesting is that the government could run the best health care system for Americans, but it’s a little too costly, so we should have the shitty insurance company health care.”

btw, Brien, every doctor I know wants the system reformed, with some dyed in the wool Republicans talking up single payer.

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Brien Sz

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Pat B

The reservoir filled.

Breathing he could taste her hair

As the station dimmed

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Brien Sz

My grandfather turns 95 at the end of the week and we try to persuade him to reallocate his money so that if something goes the way of bad and he needs care, he doesn't have to go broke doing so - by the way - he's also a Mason and their policy is that if you give them all your assets they will take better care of you than nearly any other organization will.

I don't know good answers to protect people from pre-exisiting conditions who come into unfortunate circumstances - but how many umbrellas can be created? But depleting ones life savings is not an answer in this day and age. Two steps in the right direction would be some sort of cap on what one can sue a doctor for - this is a very general statement I know, but the cost of frivolous lawsuites, extraordinary payouts in certain cases that would seem to have little merit for such costs has made it tough for doctors to to their job as well as pay for mal-practice insurance. Second - is for people to be responsible for their own conditions. Diabetes is a great example. How many millions of Americans could prevent diabetes by simply eating better and staying in a modicum of shape? No one forces you to eat yourself into a slovenly sweaty mess. Take some responsibility. Maybe the governemnt can provide its own station on Phyiscal Fitness with programs and services available for you to follow in your own home. If individuals took more time on prevention, the medical costs in this country would begin to drop dramatically. But God forbid we ask that...,

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S.M.

Flock of summer songbirds

Winter winds wound

Three survive,the song forgotten

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S.M.

Flock of summer songbirds

Winter winds wound

Three survive

The song forgotten

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Pat B

America is barbaric when dealing with this problem. Right wingers trumpet the respect and love they have for service men and women then reward them with socialized medicine. So is that really as bad as these Republicans say it is? Why would we burden our fighting men and women with inferior medical treatment? Or is the system good? Whatever the answer, hypocrisy abounds.

I've lost two doctors to concierge medicine. To access them you have to pay $2000 a year. Such was their abject frustration with insurance companies. A doctor friend says he spends more time arguing with insurance buffoons about the care he provides for his patients than actually providing that care. Insurance companies as a matter of course delay payments as long as possible to bolster their bottom line and stroke their shareholders. And insurance premiums have driven doctors out of their chosen professions. And has one Republican offered one program in response to this debate. No. Not one. However they have worked on two bills lately: one to demand a birth certificate from anyone running for president, and one to make Obama apologize for using the word "stupidly". Well, as we all know, stupid is as stupid does.

The reservoir filled.

Breathing in he smelled her hair

As the station dimmed

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Bill M

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Brien Sz

Nice one Steve - I like it....,

Link is to one of the many reasons why Universal Health Care in its current form is no good. Don't get me wrong..., I'm for some kind of plan but the President seems to be ram rodding a policy that is very flawed.

A recent poll I read stated that 16% of Americans consider themselves uninsured. Of that 16%, 4% are those making 90K a year or more - I'm sorry but at 90K plus, you should be able to afford a modest plan of some sort. Cut that group out and we are now in the 12%. Some 60% of the 12% are those making less than 36K. Why can't the current admin as well as numb brained Republicans come up with a plan that covers the 12% of the nation that truly could use some plan? Do any of these folks think in real money terms or is simply just numbers. A policy that heads down this direction would surely be much more cost effective for the nation now and in the long term.

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Steve

Sand bag, waters of spring

bank of sand, Dylan sings

watching the river flow

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Bill M

I was listening to Colin James's Linden-produced "Limelight" album yesterday - mostly because I never tire of hearing the magnificent "Far Away Like A Radio" (the Band meets the Atlanta Rhythm Section). James's version of Dylan's "Watching The River Flow" is unexceptional, but it did make me wonder if Dylan had intended it as something of a Band pastiche. As opposed to "When I get off of this mountain, you know where I want to go ...", you have "If I [could get off of this sandbag], you know where I would go ..."

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Brien Sz

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Charlie Y

Subject: Band Haiku

Steve: I laughed out lould at your observation about that post from Diesel. As someone from the old days here who remembers long sustained threads of discussion, it would be nice to see a long string of Band-related haiku poems. Someone would have to post the rules of haiku first. That class was a long time ago for me.

I'll post my observations on the Dylan-Mellencamp-Willie Nelson and The Wiyos show at the ballpark in Norfolk when I have the time and energy. I'm still tired from standing for five hours fifty feet from the front center of the stage, but it was worth it! I'm really grateful for Bob's general admission policy--democracy lives!

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Ilkka Jauramo

Subject: Thank Jan F. / Peter Viney's article / Robbie Robertson in UNCUT magazine

Jan, apology accepted :-) Ilka is a female name but Ilkka is definitely a male. On the other hand Jan can be a Janice or a Norwegian male. Just saw an Australian TV serie with a female role figure Steve. Got to live with it in the internet. Hope there is no "ladies" and "gentlemen" by The Pearly Gate someday...

Thanks Peter Viney for the article and especially for defending independent record stores.

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but ROBBIE ROBERTSON tells why he loves BUFFY SAINTE-MARIE in Uncut magazine. There is a small passport photo, too.

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Steve

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John

Subject: Great site

Awesome site!

I grew up with this music and lately I'm revisiting it. This site is the best resource for all the history, analysis, lyric sheets, sound files, etc.

Huge thanks!

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Serenity

Dave Letterman has the Dave Matthews Band on Monday and Friday.

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GLENN T: My pleasure on the quotes. I get a lot of goodies in my e-mails, which I like to share. Getting a response only makes me want to post more. Thanx.

NORM: The vid I saw was of beautiful Vancouver, "A day in" and "orange sky". Too bad about the guy you mentioned. Hope things are better for him now.

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Did you know that....

.... the domesticated animal breeds originating from Scotland include the Scottish Fold cat, the Rough Collie of "Lassie" fame, and the Grice, a somewhat aggressive pig? ...

... 23% of the world's uranium reserves are held in Australia?

... that Nick Cave requested all television cameras be switched off during his performance of the song "Into My Arms" at the funeral of INXS singer Michael Hutchence?

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Bobbie Gentry: Birth name Roberta Lee Streeter--- Born July 27, 1944 (1944-07-27) (age 65)--- Chickasaw County, Mississippi, United States--- Genre(s) Country, Traditional pop, soul music

Occupation(s) Singer-songwriter--- Instrument(s) Vocals, guitar--- Years active 1964-1978

Label(s) Capitol--- Associated acts Glen Campbell

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Maureen Therese McGovern (born July 27, 1949) is an American singer and Broadway actress, well-known for her premier rendition of the song, "The Morning After" for the movie The Poseidon Adventure (1972).

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LEON WILKESON:

Birth: Apr. 2, 1952---Jacksonville,Duval County, Florida

Death: Jul. 27, 2001 Ponte Vedra Beach,St. Johns County Florida

Rock Musician. He was the bass guitarist for the Southern rock band "Lynyrd Skynyrd". On stage and on record, their full-throttle boogie style was both explosive and surprisingly graceful as evident in the genre's landmark "Free Bird" and "Sweet Home Alabama". Known for his outlandish hats, Leon Wilkeson survived the plane crash in 1977 that killed band members Ronnie Van Zant, Steve Gaines and singer Cassie Gaines.

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Bob Hope, KBE, KCSG (born Leslie Townes Hope, May 29, 1903 – July 27, 2003), was a British-born American comedian and actor who appeared in vaudeville, on Broadway, and in radio, television and movies. He was also noted for his work with the US Armed Forces and his numerous USO tours entertaining American military personnel.[1] Throughout his career, he was honored for his humanitarian work. In 1996, the U.S. Congress honored Bob Hope by declaring him the "first and only honorary veteran of the U.S. armed forces."

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Leo Durocher: Shortstop / Manager

Born: July 27, 1905(1905-07-27) West Springfield, Massachusetts

Died: October 7, 1991 (aged 86) Palm Springs, California

Batted: Right Threw: Right

MLB debut: October 2, 1925 for the New York Yankees---Last MLB appearance April 18, 1945 for the Brooklyn Dodgers

Career statistics: Batting average .247--- Hits 1,320--- Runs batted in 567--- Managerial record 2,008–1,709

Teams: As player--- New York Yankees (1925, 1928–1929), Cincinnati Reds (1930–1933), St. Louis Cardinals (1933–1937), Brooklyn Dodgers (1938–1941, 1943, 1945)

As manager: Brooklyn Dodgers (1939–1946, 1948], New York Giants (1948–1955), Chicago Cubs (1966–1972), Houston Astros (1972–1973), Taiheiyo Club Lions (1976)

As coach: Brooklyn Dodgers (1961–1964

Career highlights and awards: 3× All-Star selection (1936, 1938, 1940), 4× World Series champion (1928, 1934, 1954, 1963)

Member of the National Baseball Hall of Fame Induction 1994

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Until next tome LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Peter V

Has anyone else seen it? It's far more than a Joe Meek biopic. Downside is you'll never hear "Johnny Remember Me" or "Telstar" again without laughing. Brilliant acting throughout though.

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Bill M

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Diesel

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Joan

I was really looking forward to it when t came out. It was, alas, very disappointing. All in all, it comes out that her time with Bob was pretty mundane. It seems like she didn't want to upset him, or there really wasn't much of interest that happened.

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Bill M

As for the Youngs' house on Brock - west side between the 4th and the 5th, I believe; they may well have had an RR# rather than a street number way back then.

Pat B: Thanks for the Glover article. It had occurred to me over the weekend that "The Weight" would have been a different song if Levon hadn't returned in time for Robbie to have written it with him in mind. Instead of Chester and Old Luke the characters would likely have been Canadians with names like Gord, Ken and Barry (or Bob and Doug - "Hey Carmen, care for a brewski? Take off eh!")

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Steve

As her train of thought once again comes off the tracks Palin is again focused on what's important. The economy is in the toilet, the planet's headed for an environmental crisis and The Governess is calling for more guns in society. Can't argue with her appeal to the heartland. Her," we hunt because we eat" applies to about an all time low of 4% of the US population. How's the other 96% surviving?

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Peter V

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Rod

I picked up a copy of Electric Dirt the other day. It's great - with the exception of The Growing trade which is a calamity. The sad thing about that song is that several reviews I've read have likened it to the sound of the Band. Maybe but Robbie wouldn't have written lyrics that bad. Still thats nitt picking. The rest of the album is fantastic. I just hope Levon invites Garth along for the next album. Maybe Robbie too?

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Cwipple Cweek

Subject: Moe Norman and the Band

Hi Northern Boy and other Golf fans, The definitive book on Moe Norman is called "The Feeling of Greatness".It was written by a Golf writer from one of the major Toronto dailies (Band connection:the Band spent a lot of time in Toronto albeit as the Hawks) In the early or mid 90s Moe had a stroke or Heart attack and was rushed to University Hospital in London Ont(Band connection 2:the boys played here a lot and Garth went to UWO for a year I think)When Moe recoverd the nurse asked him if he knew where he was and he said Yeah I am on the 5th green.(not sure exactly what number he quoted but 5th will do)The nurse found this a bit strange and asked several more times and got the same answer.Eventually an older Doctor cottoned on and realised that Moe was in fact on what used to be the 5th green at the Old London Hunt and Country Club.It had moved to west London in the early 60s but Moe had played in many amateur tournaments at the old course throughout the 50s.Band connection 3: this all occurred about a kilometer from Garth,s primary school. Ok back to Music, i am about to read Suze Rotolos,s "A freewheelin Time".Has anyone read it?Looks interesting.

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Steve

But you could have turned Ashe to advantage Tull, by saying something like this.

Back in the bad old days of the last century there was only one elite black player on the circuit. Tennis, in this century has made huge strides by literally doubling the number of elite black athletes playing the sport. What other sport can make such a claim?

See, you were on the right track but just couldn't bring that contrarian view point to the FORE! Freakin golf, you just can't shake the "sport".

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glenn t

serenity: thanks for those quotes! i really like the one from jimi hendrix. we all could be much better listeners. and i got a great chuckle from the one by marty feldman.

i haven't yet picked up electric dirt because i really want "ashes of love," but i don't see it at iTunes (and i'm on the american site). was it just there for a few days and then gone? is it available anywhere?

it's been a while since i've heard anything about the hawks boxset. is anyone aware of what's happening with that?

many thanks to those who maintain this site and contribute positive posts. we are blessed to have such a forum built on the foundation of our love for The Band.

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Peter V

I was at a Record Fair today and got a DVD of the Beatles special "Around The Beatles" as part of the Ready Steady Go TV show series. It's non-stop music, apparently live (or specially recorded with Sounds Inc. backing everyone and later mimed) and in early 1964 there are two songs of Band interest. Long John Baldry does :"Forty Days" (NOT Thirty Days) and Cilla Black does "Saved" (and very well too). The Beatles do a rock medley, one song each; a six song Beatles hits medley then finish with "Shout". There are Japanese subtitles so it must come from a tape that went to Japan … I thought that Redifussion TV had lost most of them.(It is a bootleg),

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Serenity

Hi guys!! Have a nice day. Here's a bit of trivia I'm hoping you will like.

Birth name Michael Philip Jagger

Born 26 July 1943 (1943-07-26) (age 66) at Dartford, Kent, England

Genre(s) Rock, rock and roll, psychedelic rock, blues, reggae, blues-rock

Occupation(s) Singer, songwriter, musician, record producer, film producer

Instrument(s) Vocals, harmonica, guitar, piano, bass

Years active 1962 - present

Label(s) Virgin, Rolling Stones, ABKCO, Universal

Associated acts The Rolling Stones

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Also in 1992, Motown singer/songwriter Mary Wells died of cancer at age 49.

In 2005, the United States roared back into space as the shuttle Discovery lifted off from Cape Canaveral in the first launch since the 2003 Columbia tragedy.

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Centre for Snowbird singer celebrates 20 years in Springhill, N.S. Sat Jul 25,

SPRINGHILL, N.S. - Canadian singing legend Anne Murray was once again honoured in her hometown of Springhill, Nova Scotia.

Murray was on hand to help celebrate the 20th anniversary of the Anne Murray Centre in Springhill.

Fans cried and shared stories about the influence Murray has had on their lives.

People in the community say the Centre has livened up the quiet town and made it a tourist destination.

Since the Anne Murray Centre opened in 1989, more than 300,000 people have made the pilgrimage to Springhill.

Murray says it was nice to give something back to her home town. [I visited here in the late 50's, and it was like a ghost town then. Stores closed and most gathered in a local bar. It was so sad].

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Wisdom Quotes

"Whenever I'm caught between two evils, I take the one I've never tried." Mae West

"Knowledge speaks, but wisdom listens." Jimi Hendrix

"The pen is mightier than the sword, and considerably easier to write with." Marty Feldman

"How to make a million dollars: First, get a million dollars." Steve Martin

"If at first you don't succeed, try again. Then quit. There's no use being a damn fool about it." W.C. Fields

"Wise men make proverbs, but fools repeat them." Samuel Palmer

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE

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westcoaster

Subject: Tow boat accidents

I'm not sure if the page will work for you. However if it doesn't, google, (on youtube) tugboat accident flips in Skoocum Chuck Narrows.

This tug, "North Arm Venture" is towing a barge almost exactly like mine. The tug is a fair amount bigger than mine, with almost twice the power.

This fellow made a few mistakes. He was 45 minutes late for slack tide. He has his barge up very close, and is running too fast, with too much power on. There is an "abort" on your tow line, which lets the brake release by pushing a button. That allows towline to run out, so the barge can't pull on you. He must have panicked some what and did not release his towline. As well he let his tug get off to the side, instead of staying in front of the barge. His tug hit a "back eddy" allowing the barge to overtake and start to pass him. This could happen to any one. You know the old saying, STAY FOCUSED!

Looking closely, you will see one guy fall back into the door, top side. He ended up underneath, in the ship. Fortunately he is a diver, and did not panick. He waited, got his opportunity, and swam out. All four crewmen were saved, and ok.

My younger brother, (he's just coming by Powell River with a tow of logs, forgot potatoes, so I got to run him out some.) Anyway, he told me the captain of the North Arm Venture, is a quite an arrogant fellow, and no one wants to sail with him. Apparently the company was giving him, the "one last chance". What a horribly humbling experience. I hope he has better luck.

No one wants to ever see a guy have such a bad experience. Fortunately the out come was that no one was hurt. I'm sure every one can imagine the sick feeling in my gut watching this. At the end of the video, you can see how fast the tide runs, and what these crazies do with their kayaks in the tide.

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Northern Boy

Moe wouldn't have fit it on the Tour simply by virtue of having been Moe. I don't think he ever meant anyone an ounce of harm, though. The victim of a rotten upbringing, he was kind of a wounded soul who lacked confidence socially, along with most of the social skills we take for granted. I doubt he went far at all in school. I doubt if he could've chummed his way into the the fraternity of players on tour, and probably didn't even try, which also would've been perceived as weird. He had a peculiar, choppy, and fast way of speaking. So a bit weird to listen to and a bit weird to look at too, I imagine. I think he used to sleep at the tourney sites in his big ol' Caddi, so in the morning, by definition, he'd look like he'd sleep in his car all night -because he had ! And all this in the age of Perry Como cardigan conformity, so that made it tough.

Problem two. Moe did everything at top speed. That's how his mind worked and that was part of his genius. (ignoring all conventional golf theory and inventing a totally different swing that he had totally down pat before he was twenty, was another part of it). So pokey tournament play just bored Moe silly, possibly got him off his game, and brought out even more quirkiness. If he had to wait long at all he'd go off in the rough or the woods and start looking for lost balls and I'm not not sure he'd always get back to his own ball when it was his turn to play again, either. He even putted through another player's legs once rather than wait for him to get out of his way. Be the time Moe got to his ball he'd have completely figured out what he wanted to do next and then needed only seconds to execute perfectly. He could read his putts in seconds.

I suspect if Moe could've been a onesome in every round of every tournament, ie. gone off first with just a scorer, he'd have broken par handily every day, been back to the clubhouse in no time flat, had breakfast and probably have hit a hundred balls on the practice range before the next group was even finished. He was like a high-strung thoroughbred that was constantly being held back. When he'd come over from Golf Haven to our club, sometimes he'd take a power cart and our pro would take another one and they'd meet at the green. Would play a whole round like that, playing through anyone in their way. Crazy ! There's no end of Moe stories floating around, used to be anyway.

I don't know if the PGA actually got rid of him, whether players didn't like playing with the strange Canuck guy and made their feelings known to the Commisioner, or whether Moe knew this arrangement wasn't tenable so he just left, perhaps to the relief of others. With Moe's fairly recent passing there's probably a book out on him by now, possibly by the American fellow who kept a watchful eye on Moe in his later years. He is a Moe authority; I'm not. Near the end of his life, one of the big golf companies (Titleist ?) paid Moe about $60,000 a year to do literally nothing, other than to just be Moe Norman. I think he finished his life golfing, (what else), in Florida and may have been destitute without this helping hand. Certainly the most colourful figure ever in Canadian Golf, and possibly had he come along in a different decade, the tour and its players might've actually embraced him precisely for his quirky nature. Ironic. Even to this day, I think some players might still consider Moe was the best ball-striker ever. I think Trevino for one. Moe hit it out of bounds exactly all of once in his entire competitive career (27 years, or something like that).NB

I'm with you completely on Bobby Jones' swing (poetry in motion), but I bet the modern coaches have no use for that footage as an instructional tool, as his lower body action is totally contrary to modern swing instruction. Still a treat to watch though.

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jh

...after the monthly cleaning of the GB. Still on vacation, now on the lovely island of Fehmarn, Germany. The booze is dangerously cheap here... %-}

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Joan

I'm a big fan. I never use IE. Firefox is safer.

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Serenity

Subject: The BAND

LINK: "The Weight" by our guys. ROBBIE sounds a little scratchy, but he sure looks "cute", as do the rest.

PAT B: Thanx for the interesting link.

JQ: Firefox is a good one. My daughter swears by it. I'm going to add it now that I have a lot of room for storage.

CLAIRE: Those exact same questions/answers were on "R&R Jeopardy" back in 1999, when Jeff Probst ["Survivor"] was the host. I have a few of them on home vids. It was a good program from VH1. Our Canadian channel #36 MMM carried it.

Take care and God Bless xoxoxo

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Pat B

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Lars

Subject: "A Wonderful New Group"

PAT- I tried to read your linked article "A Wonderful New Group" with some reservations (after you warned us about its authenticity) and I still came away spellbound. There were so many things that I'd never heard before and , even if only half of the article is true, I feel like I got a look behind the curtain of The Band Legend. One of the quotes I have doubts about is Robbie talking about going out on the road with Dylan again, "if the music scene ever straightens out" enough to appreciate Dylan's electric sound. From all that I've heard and read, The Band was totally involved in their own music after "Music From Big Pink" and they weren't planning on being Bob Dylan's electric band anymore.

Seeing Mike Bloomfield's name reminds me of Mike's famous complaint while playing in Paul Butterfield's band, "I know Paul...and I'm scared of him."

I can hear Sredni laughing from here.

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Pat B

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Peter V

Where the British one differs from the US one is that after the five names in a row, it says (The Band) in parentheses. I bought my copy new back in the day.

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Peter V

Odd order … not alphabetical- Robertson, Danko, Manuel, Hudson, Helm. The British Capitol single isn't on the site. Exactly the same.

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Pat B

And here's RR explaining in the fall of 1968 why the group doesn't have a name. Of course, it's a contemporary interview done by a published author with lots of quotes so I don't trust it.

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Pat B

A link to a picture of the single "The Weight", before they decided on a name.

Firefox is a far more stable browser than Safari.

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joe j

My copy of Big Pink notes 'The Band' on the spine and nowhere else.

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Peter V

My main interface with golf was doing lights on summer variety shows, when the likes of Frankie Vaughan, Des O'Connor and later Jimmy Tarbuck. These "showbiz" types were keen golfers and turned up at 5.45 for the first show, which was at 6.30 in appallingly-patterned sweaters and silly shoes. Golf apparently appealed strongly to the "showbiz" crowd and also to would-be bankers. I used to spell "banker" with a "W" and it's taken until 2009 for the world to catch up with me. There was one stage hand who was a golf-professional at a local club and who would play with the stars and let them win, or caddy when there were a sufficient number of stars to not need his services. We used to call him "The caddy." He was the most professional arselicker I ever met. I think it was the mark of his trade.

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Lars

Subject: The Crackers

Claire's "Jeapordy" question brings up another question, at least in my mind. When did The Band become officially known as "The Band?" Dylan's reference to them as "The Band" carried a lot of weight, but when Albert Grossman got them their first contract with Capitol Records, they were signed as "The Crackers." I seem to remember that the album "Music From Little Pink" was being pressed at Capitol and the record company wanted to know whether to list the album as being made by the contractual name "The Crackers" or the more popular name "The Band." They just needed a name to use. Was it Grossman, the OQ, or some executive at Capitol who finally made a commitment to the name "The Band?"

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Claire

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Serenity

A mini bio of Steve Goodman, who would have been 61 today. [May he RIP] Another one gone too soon.

Steve Goodman (July 25, 1948 – September 20, 1984) was an American folk music singer-songwriter from Chicago, Illinois. The writer of "City of New Orleans", made popular by Arlo Guthrie, Goodman won two Grammy Awards.

in 1971, Goodman was playing at a Chicago bar called the Quiet Knight as the opening act for Kris Kristofferson. Kristofferson, impressed with Goodman, introduced him to Paul Anka, who brought Goodman to New York to record some demos. These resulted in Goodman signing a contract with Buddah Records.

All this time, Goodman had been busy writing many of his most enduring songs, and this avid songwriting would lead to an important break for him. While at the Quiet Knight, Goodman saw Arlo Guthrie, and asked to be allowed to play a song for him. Guthrie grudgingly agreed, on the condition that Goodman buy him a beer first; Guthrie would listen to Goodman for as long as it took Guthrie to drink the beer. Goodman played "City of New Orleans", (original lyrics) which Guthrie liked enough that he asked to record it. Guthrie's version of the song became a Top 20 hit in 1972, and provided Goodman with enough financial and artistic success to make his music a full-time career. The song, about the Illinois Central's City of New Orleans train, would become an American standard, covered by such musicians as Johnny Cash, Judy Collins, and Willie Nelson, whose recorded version earned Goodman a posthumous Grammy Award for Best Country Song in 1985. A French translation of the song, "Salut Les Amoureux", was recorded by Joe Dassin in 1979. According to his wife, the song began as Goodman in his imagination wandered all the way to New Orleans while on a train from Chicago to visit her elderly grandmother in Mattoon, Illinois.

In 1974, singer David Allan Coe achieved considerable success on the country charts with Goodman's and Prine's "You Never Even Call Me By My Name", a song which good-naturedly spoofed stereotypical country music lyrics. Prine refused to take a songwriter's credit of the song, although Goodman bought Prine a jukebox as a gift from his publishing royalties.

Goodman's success as a recording artist was more limited. Although he was known in folk circles as an excellent and influential songwriter, his albums received more critical than commercial success. Ironically, one of Goodman's biggest hits was a song he didn't write – "The Dutchman", written by Michael Peter Smith.

Death

On September 20, 1984, Goodman died at University of Washington Hospital in Seattle, Washington, his life finally taken by the leukemia from which he had anointed himself with the tongue-in-cheek nickname “Cool Hand Leuk” (other nicknames included “Chicago Shorty” and “The Little Prince”). He was only 36. Just four days after Goodman's death, his beloved Chicago Cubs clinched the Eastern Division title in the National League for the first time ever, earning them their first post-season appearance since 1945, three years before Goodman's birth. Eight days later, on October 2, the Cubs played their first post-season game since the 1945 World Series. Goodman had been asked to sing "The Star-Spangled Banner" before it; Jimmy Buffett filled in, and dedicated the song to Goodman. In April 1988, some of Goodman's ashes were scattered at Wrigley Field, the home of the Chicago Cubs. He was survived by his wife and three daughters.

Legacy

In 2006, Goodman's daughter, Rosanna, issued My Old Man, an album of a variety of artists covering her father's songs.

Interest in Goodman's career had a resurgence in 2007 with the publication of a massive biography by Clay Eals, Steve Goodman: Facing the Music. The same year, the Chicago Cubs began playing Goodman's 1984 song "Go, Cubs, Go" after each home game win. When the Cubs made it to the playoffs, interest in the song and Goodman resulted in several newspaper articles about Goodman. Illinois Lieutenant Governor Pat Quinn declared October 5, 2007 Steve Goodman Day in the state.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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JQ

Anybody else having recent trouble with Safari crashing out? Is Firefox better? Relation to The Band: C'mon it's how we all get together here.

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Pat B

I'm sure there is slow and reluctant change for some of these clubs as the recession has gutted their membership. More clubs are closing than opening which should tell you the depth of the problem. Other clubs are consolidating. But discrimination against the big three is still rampant.

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bob w.

For what it is worth, as a kid I caddied at an all Jewish club that did not allow gentiles as members. Times were different then. I understand and empathize with the exclusion issue but I also believe it is not nearly as prevalent these days and that it can be spun in a lot of different directions.

Steve, my rose colored glasses prefer to see what is being done right, what is being done to correct old wrongs and what is possible as a result. What a lousy outlook that is, eh?

Take care, everyone.

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Landmark

Good joke Dlew. Of course any discussion of golf in the GB would not be complete without mentioning a former poster's reminiscence of his father telling him that the only redeeming quality of golf was the amount of rich people who would drop dead while playing.

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dlew919

I can't add any more to the discussion except the following joke. /n Two avid golfers are playing a round when they see a funeral go past. One, in the middle of putting, stops, takes his hat off, bows his head, and prays silently for a couple of minutes. /n After the hearse has passed, he takes his shot. His mate congratulates him on sinking the ball and then comments, 'you know, it was very touching that you stopped for the funeral. You don't see that type of respect anymore. /n The first guy says, 'really, it was the least I could do. We'd been married 35 years last wednesday.'

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Frank

Subject: Irish Showbands

Peter the Showband era probably peaked over here in the sixties but suffered with the advent of disco..I well remember one outfit called "Ian Corrigan and Country Style",a brass section was an integral part of such groups and Corrigan and co all looked resplendent in matching green velvet suit's.Another big name from of this genre were from my neck of the woods, called the Hilton Showband [Pat Jennings wife actually was lead singer at one time or another,they never quite made the big time,but did play as far afield as Canada and most certainly England,Wales and Scotland..they even made it onto Opportunity Knocks.but legend has it that the ghastly Hughie Green made them play a slow ballad type of number as opposed to the more upbeat type of tune they normally played] not my type of thing to be honest but they where what tey where and where off thier time,the Hilton favoured crimson suits if my memory serves me correctly. A popular radio presenter from over here [Derry to be exact] Gerry Anderson used to play in a Showband called "The Chessmen", he actually at one time played with Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawk's as well in the early seventies. A man who probably best summed this era up was the late Joe Dolan "there's no show like a Joe show" was a popular refrain in the day..Dolan was a native of Mullingar and played to packed houses the length and breadth of the country...about thirty years ago I was travelling across the states on free spirited enterprise called "Green Tortoise Tour's"[ basically a bus with no seats and certainly full of very interesting fun people when I made my trip ..trip being the operative word to be honest]anyway my friend and I disemebarked in Hollywood [the rest where heading for San Francisco] and happily set of to explore the sights of tinsel town, we where shocked, well mildly amused to see the first huge poster/ advertisement we came across was one for the late Joe Dolan an his entourage..small world.

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Peter V

After finding a few 45s recently,I’ve started getting interested in Irish Showbands. Van Morrison (sax) and Rory Gallagher were both graduates from them. There were over 1500 of them 1958-1985, and they mainly played one nighters, often to 2000 people a time. The line up was guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, two brass (usually trumpet and sax). The characteristic was they usually had more than one lead vocalist and several backing vocalists, and could switch from Top Twenty to rock & roll, R&B, C & W and traditional Irish tunes. The top ones, like the Royal Showband, went beyond Ireland and toured Great Britain and got as far afield as Germany and Canada. The Monarchs (with Van) played England, Scotland and Germany. Looking at the characteristics again, does it remind anyone of Ronnie Hawkins & The Hawks? It reminds me of seeing Zoot Money weekly (they had a vocalist as well as Zoot on organ and vocals). At the same venue, I saw at least three Irish Showbands in the early 60s, but I don’t know which ones. It was always a great evening, no farting around between songs, wide variety and tons of energy.

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Pat B

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Moore Endby

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Northern Boy

I'll probably never hear the end of it from Steve, but I came this close to spending my working life as a golf club professional. At nineteen I was a two-handicapper, had competed provincially and nationally, was working in a pro-shop and had been offered an assistant pro position there. I was seriously considering doing the apprenticeship under the head pro, who coincidentally had served as an assistant pro under one of the ten best ball-strikers in the history of golf, Moe Norman. Quirky Moe kind of got himself railroaded off the PGA tour - discrimination of another kind. (Do you know of Moe, Pat ? Few people may realize it, but Moe once actually golfed in the group directly in front me). Bill M. will correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been told that Neil Young's brother worked in my old pro-shop, I guess in the late fifties. At that time the Youngs definitely lived on Brock Road where our golf course was situated. Neil has said he really first got into Rock'N Roll (maybe age 10 to 12 ?) while living on Brock Rd. Oh sorry, I digressed into music there for a second. Let's get back to golf, but even more importantly, back to me. Anyway, for better or worse, I did not take the offer of the assistant golf professional position, so therefore my life took an altogether different turn - that of professional greeter at WalMart.

But don't worry guys, the golf position I passed up on wasn't at one of those swanky private clubs. However, there was one of those clubs up the road from us a ways. I remember we got a slightly strange phone call one day from that particular private club, strange in that we usually had very little to do with them, and they, likewise, had even way less to do with us. The phone call, it turns out, was from their two top juniors and they wanted our club to send up our two top juniors for a so-called "friendly match". We would be competing on their home field, so to speak, with the understanding that later they would come down to our club for the second installment. (This sounded to me a bit like Wimpy economics: -you know, "for a hamburger today, I will gladly repay you next Tuesday", but "what the hell", I thought ).

So myself and this other junior dude from our club, whose nickname coincidentally was "Dude", blithely headed up to the private club for the match. Now as theirs was a private club, I'd only played their course once or twice in junior tournaments and my partner, this Dude dude, was playing it for the first time in his entire life. So in other words, we were toast ! Realistically, we had about as much chance as a snowball in a microwave. The expression "lambs to the slaughter" was not, as of yet, in our lexicon. However fortunately for us, we were too young and/or too stupid to sense our own imminent annihilation.

Anyway, after nine holes of golf we were seriously down to the private club boys. In other words, it wasn't looking good for the young NB and the dude known simply as "Dude" - no, not good at all ! Then gradually, Dude's game picked up a notch or two while somehow, from the tenth hole onward it was as if my game had caught, as they say, "Lightening In A Bottle" (which, if I'm not as mistaken as I usually am, is the title of a terrific blues concert DVD with BB King and a whole host of other great blues talent, but damn it, I'm digressing into music again ! Focus Northern Boy, focus !).

Anyway, then out on the back nine, out of nowhere, everything changed. But the biggest change of all was that the cup started to appear to my eye to be the size of a garbage can (whereas at this stage of my life it looks pretty much like a thimble). I then concluded that it would appear highly embarrassing to not be able to sink putts into garbage cans, so to avoid embarrassment I henceforth calmly proceeded to sink virtually all of my putts on that back nine, be they for par or birdie, or whatever. When the day finally came to a close, I walked off their 18th green with a back nine of five-under par. The private club boys had lost the match on their home turf in convincing fashion but, you know, despite the stereotype, they were both great guys who were terrific about how the day's match had gone down. However, they strangely never got around to coming down to the workingman's club for the second part of the match. They musta gotten busy, or something. Anyway, one of them went on to be a club pro and Canadian tour player who even played in the US Senior Open about four years ago. He went to our high school, Bill M, so I'll expect you to come up with a name for me, oh, and an address for Neil Young's family on Brock Rd. too while you're at it. NB

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JTull Fan

Charlie, wow, a big question that deserves a bigger answer than I can give it. I think in most parts of the South, race relations are better, significantly, than up North. I think they are vastly improved everywhere, but I think there is far more respect between at least black and white in the South than elsewhere in the modern era. Virginia had the Doug Wilder, the first elected black governor. NY had Tawana Brawley and Al Sharpton. During the 80's while in high school in West Haven, CT, the Imperial Wizard of the KKK (who lived in CT!) won a court order to have a Klan rally at our high school football field! There has also been a net migration back to the South by African Americans due to the improved conditions. We can come up with endless examples supporting and refuting me, but I do think the comfort level on racial issues is more comfortable in most of the South versus the North.

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Charlie Y

I meant "JTF" (JTull Fan).

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Charlie Y

There's an obvious Band connection here (R.E.Lee) but I'd like to know your opinion, JTF--as someone who has lived in both North and South--about the differences in race relations in the two distinctively different areas. I think the Henry Gates arrest business makes this a relevent topic.

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JTull Fan

Steve, you never heard of Arthur Ashe? he has a monument in Richmond if you ever care to visit.

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Pat B

I never did say that people can't play golf if they want. In fact the golf boom of ten years ago has left literally hundreds of underused courses as the economy tanked. For the first time there are more courses closing than opening.

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Kevin J

The above link is a nice way to tee off a Friday night....Hunter, Bowie and Ronson - love it!.....Pat's mention of Focus brought back memories of being a kid and hearing Hocus Pocus by Focus on the radio....we thiught it was pretty cool at the time.......it would be some years later that I discovered the likes of Bowie, Faces, Zep, Dylan and The Band....

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Dunc

Subject: Jeff, Peter V, Amanda, Golf

Thanks, Jeff. I always assumed that if the producer was credited then his work had been used. 'Exploited' part of post is interesting.

Peter V:If you've got a spare half hour go to BBC iplayer and search 'Sex, Drugs and Woolly Semmits' you'll find a good programme on Maggie Bell on Radio Scotland. It relates to pop/rock in the sixties and is a good snapshot of the pop business then, including topics you've mentioned.

Amanda:I wonder if Bob is releasing all the Bootleg series to pay for the house?

Golf:I would say golf is accessible here. Most people could afford to join local clubs, which are of a very good standard, but I doubt if the Royal and Ancient or Muirfield would have me. It would be easy for Bob to join his local club. The problem is funding when a promising young player wants to go full time or to college in USA. After attending state schools Andy Murray had to move to Spain to further his career.

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Landmark

Very few black jockeys as well. It's not like all jockeys come from rural areas where there are horse farms. Most jockeys of colour are of West Indian descent and that is not exactly horse country. By the way, 5 1/2 days till Opening Day at the Spa.

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Bill M

Hmm. Black people don't golf because it's not an urban game? Which I think would be based on an assumption that they are mostly urban. Which is, if true, because why?

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Amanda

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abby

My husband's nephew is one of those who will go the Qschool route that's been mentioned here. (I guess that's the same thing my sister in law is talking about -- the cost is $10,000 - they say they aren't going to pay it. Yeah, right.) The kid went to a public college here in KY. He's a very good golfer, no doubt. But his entire life has been devoted to playing golf. His dad's life too - for the past 15 years anyway. (Luckily dad owns his own business and was free to take his son golfing everyday - sometimes twice a day.) Not at a country club, though. Just the public links, for the most part. Anyhow, the kid is pretty much insufferable. But he is a good golfer. Band connection? I'll betcha Rick Danko never played a round of golf in his entire life. Garth neither. Richard or Levon? Maybe. Sebastian - does your dad play golf?

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Norbert

Subject: Levenslied:

Rika Jansen, Amsterdam Huilt, acording to Sports Illustrated (2007 Nov.) on Wood's iPot (got it indeed from Obama).

p.s. yes, as Pat already said, The Golden Earing still play, in fact, they just ended an 8 days (in a row) tour on Dutch Rhine cruiser Ms De Zonnebloem.

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Pat B

Eventually these players get placed in the golf universities, mostly in the sunny south where they play year round. My brother belongs to University of Texas GC outside of Austin. I saw the team hitting from the golds and these kids are preternatural. The training facility is also unreal.

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Joan

Subject: On line music

WNEW FM was the best station in the NY Metro area for years. They are trying to bring it back "to life"

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NB

Pat, I'd have said I thought all the college players came from the Public Links if I thought that. Instead, I conceded in my opening sentence that most touring pros had probably been country club juniors. I know and lament as much as anyone how few African-Americans have reached the big tours. I may be making assumptions about golf in the U.S. based on golf in Canada. We have lots of private clubs here too, but we also have endless semi-private clubs that have golf pros and junior programmes, are attached to challenging courses, are open for everybody to join and usually with pretty decent junior and family membership rates. This would be the type of club that Mike Weir learned his golf at on his way up to the tour. Doesn't the US have this whole layer of golf courses I've just described to create its good juniors ? And doesn't nearly every high school have a golf programme to spot the talented kids and get them steered toward the colleges, if their marks and golf games warrant it ? NB

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Pat B

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Kevin J

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Pat B

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Pat B

Bob, I'm being dead on. Any duffer can play anytime he or she wants to. But the pros on the tour inevitably belonged to CC as kids, got ID'ed early in their lives as pro material, attended pricey off-season academies, even became LLC's and got other members to invest in them. By the time they got to college--on scholarship-- they were scratch golfers. Another typical story: your dad was a club pro and/or he was a dominating psycho.

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Steve

I'll leave you to spread whatever vision of the world your rose colored glasses give you as I'm off to split the Ford 4610 into two halves to replace the clutch, pressure plate, throw out bearing and possibly the flywheel. You can post with carefree, reckless abandon. Enjoy it.

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bob w.

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Peter V

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Steve

Any way you dice it Bob it's about money. No money no play. No money, no leisure time, no play. Golf is defined by money and leisure time. Hey, Time To Kill, there's a Band connection. If you're working two jobs at minimum wage your leisure time suffers as does your short game. You should add both TIME and MONEY to interest as prerequisites for playing golf. Lets be honest here Bob. Time and money. Time and money. You say talent and ambition are the only requirements, like the other sports mentioned. If that is true what is your hypothesis for the dearth of black golfers on the tour. No talent, no ambition? " Golf may not be as convenient as basketball has to go down as one of the GB's all time understatements. Bob, take off the blinders. Time and money. It's a leisure pursuit of people with an excess of both.

You say tennis has thrived of late. Who besides the Williams sisters are out there making their mark in the sport. I don't really follow tennis but what little I do watch the only black players I've ever seen are the Williams sisters. Are there others of note?

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bob w.

Music online.

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bob w.

Pat, you are painting with a very old brush. There are many, many reasons for the absence of black players at the elite level. By its very nature it is not an urban game. Basketball has thrived. Tennis has thrived of late. The Williams sisters are a great story. Football continues to thrive. Baseball is losing its young black players at record rates and has begun programs to try and move the sport back on to the priority list. That has nothing to do with any sort of exclusivity.

For the record, there are literally thousands upon thousands of public golf courses and learning facilities around the country. The game is accessible if the interest is there to pursue it. The closest I ever got to country club golf was as a caddy in my early teens. We were entitled to play on Mondays free of charge back then.

Point is....the country club route is not available to most....regardless of skin color. It is far from the only path available to a career in golf. If the talent is there and the ambition to go with it, the game is every bit as accessible as all the other sports mentioned but may not be as convenient as the basketball courts, tennis courts or public school football or baseball facilities in urban neighborhoods. The average golf course requires a couple of hundred acres. I don't know of too many urban centers that have that sort of open space available or are willing to forego extensive development and subsequent tax implications to build inner city golf courses. That is an unfortunate reality.

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Steve

nb, you skipped over the part of a golfer's career that puts you in a position to be scouted for a university career in the first place. High school. I wonder how many inner city schools have golf teams or the extra cash to run them. The inner city school I taught at in Providence didn't have enough text books for every student in my history class. Golf wasn't on the radar. The only team sport the school could afford to run was basketball. The school didn't even have playing fields. Actually, I don't remember seeing a blade of grass in the neighborhood. Income level has to be recognized as a dis qualifier for certain sports. That's where the exclusionary factor for university does come into play. How many inner city golf courses do you know of in the US or Canada?

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Jack Straw

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Northern Boy

Perhaps most of today's tour professionals did play their junior golf at private clubs, but the exclusionary country clubs are only the indirect source pool for the tour. American colleges and universities are the direct source pool for the professional tours. Tour calibre players are produced there, not at the country clubs. One route onto the PGA tour is through the lesser Nationwide Tour (formerly the Nike and Hogan Tours), as its top 25 players advance each year to The Big Tour. The PGA "Qualifying School" tournament is still held each year and you can get yourself on the tour that way too, well, perhaps not "you" personally. "Q School", as it's known, is televised and I once saw an African-American player painfully just miss qualifying right at the end of the tournament.

The colleges and universities are really the pipeline to the tour though, as that's where you're swing-coached, swing-videoed, sports-psychologized, and taught to compete at a high level. And the schools aren't exclusionary in the sense that if you've got enough game, it's full scholarship time regardless of skin colour. The schools even recruit damn foreigners from all over the planet because, bottom line - they just wanna win. It's the American way- and I like it ! Hey, and they even take Canadians.

Now, the amount of money an individual needs in the first couple of "make-it-or-break-it" years as a touring pro (before he's cashing some decent cheques) is where the monied thing REALLY comes into play. (The expenses involved in touring are staggering and if you don't make the cut in an event, you earn zero for the week). If your family happens to be well-enough off that your junior golf was played at a private club, then of course you've got instant financial backing from your family as you head out on tour. Or at least some of what you'll need, anyway. If not, then you're running around with your hand stuck out looking for financial backers. Unlike Tiger, who had his $40 million dollar Nike contract in his back pocket before he hit his first shot on the PGA tour. NB

PS Tiger would be a better role model for kids if he'd stop dropping audible "F Bombs" as he plays. I bet Tom Watson never did this once in his career. Similarly, Nicklaus used to only say "Oh, Jaaaaack" when he hit a stinker.

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Pat B

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Pat B

BTW, was that the best pitched game of all time today? Look at that White Sox lineup (backup catcher and first base, rookies and 2nd and 3rd, 1st year at short). Unreal.

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Charlie Y

Bob: I neglected to mention Jackson Browne has the same great band he's had for a while: Mark Goldenberg on guitars, Mauricio Lewak on drums, Kevin McCormick on bass, Jeff Young on keyboards and vocals, plus vocalists Aleathea Mills and Chavonne Morris. He also invited guitar tech Manny Alvarez onstage to play second electric lead on one song. They were all excellent, though none had the sort of unique colorful style longtime sideman David Lindley brought to the mix. It was a really strong performance by all, though, and I'm happy I was there.

Jackson Browne has recently released two volumes of solo acoustic live performances, so it was a natural question to ask, Bob. Sorry I forgot to mention Mr. Browne's band in my previous post.

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Friend0

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Kevin J

Steve: How is being ½ Thai the same as being Chinese?

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Steve

Besides, Woods is as much Chinese as he is black. When the Chinese flood into the game in a few more years we can credit him with that achievement.

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bob w.

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bob w.

Kev J, From everything I see and read he appears to be doing a great job with his charitable contributions. There is a long list of factors involved in the comparison you cited.

Check out the link.

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Peter V

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Bill M

Peter V: Since they've both been mentioned here this week, I have to ask if Gordon Waller and Mickey Waller are brothers or something. Also, watching Steampacket on YouTube (see link), it's interesting to see Rod Stewart playing the role of a Blue Flame (or a Maytal) rather than the role of a James Brown or a Toots Hibbert. He certainly is good at it though (as of course is Julie Driscoll).

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Lars

Subject: Jesse Colin Young

If there are any Jesse Colin Young fans around here, his '60's group "The Youngbloods" have a lip sync video on YouTube called "Grizzly Bear." Jesse explains the origin of the name of the song to host Dick Clark.

Serenity: Not trying to bum you out because I do enjoy your lists, but Don Drysdale died in Montreal back in 1993 (heart attack). Hard to say who was meaner on the mound, Drysdale or Bob Gibson. But off the field he was a fine person, by all reports.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks everybody

Thanks everybody. I've read Chronicles and enjoyed it. But I don't know if it tells you how much he did on the alternate takes. I'll re-read it. I'll settle for TTS disc 1 being a great piece of music.

Unusually for a weekday, Kevin, I am going out to a pub quiz tonight because an old mate who retired to Ireland and is a traditional musician is back visiting for two days.

Talking about Neil, I always wish that someone would re-engineer 'Landing On Water'. Did anyone else feel this?

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Bill M

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Kevin J

"Tears are not Enough" ........also applies if you are thinking about what Daniel Lanois might do to Neil Young....Band link Richard was there!

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Steve

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Serenity

PETER: Late with this response on "CrackerJack". I do remember Max Bygraves [have his music,love it] and Ronnie Corbett from the "2 Ronnies" Good TV show. I love English comedy, especially, "Are You Being Served?". Have quite a few vids of a few of them.

ARI S: Cute story on Bob Dylan. Thanx for link on ROBBIE and the R&R HOF. Haven't rec'd my Rolling Stone e-mail as yet, so haven't seen this article.

DUNC: What a beautiful home of Bob Dylans.

Birthdays today: Don Imus is 69, and pitcher Don Drysdale is 73.

Some trivia [I love trivia of all sorts] and a fun story you may like on baseball. I just had to pass it along from my e-mail inbox. I get a lot of goodies every day.

Classic Quotes by Raymond Chandler [birthday today](1888-1959) US writer

A good story cannot be devised; it has to be distilled.

A really good detective never gets married.

Ability is what you're capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it.

Alcohol is like love. The first kiss is magic, the second is intimate, the third is routine. After that you take the girl's clothes off.

At least half the mystery novels published violate the law that the solution, once revealed, must seem to be inevitable.

Chess is as elaborate a waste of human intelligence as you can find outside an advertising agency.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Cute story. Just had to share this:

Baseball team salutes pregnancy

NEW YORK (UPI) -- Expectant moms were the center of attention at New York's Brooklyn Cyclones' win over the somewhat confused Auburn, N.Y., Doubledays, observers said.

The team promoted Sunday night's game as "Bellies and Baseball: A Salute to Pregnancy Night," which involved pregnant women rounding the bases, throwing out the first pitch and singing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the "seventh-inning stretch marks," the New York Daily News reported.

Among the expectant mothers in the crowd was Nicole Bartos, 30, who was experiencing labor pains and said her water might break during the game.

Diane Haussermann, 25, who is due to give birth Sept. 16, threw out the game's first pitch.

Among the festivities before the game, which the Cyclones won 2-1, was a Lamaze class in the middle of KeySpan Park that drew confused looks from the visitor's dugout, the Daily News said.

Copyright 2009 by United Press International

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Bill M

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Kevin J

It must be happy hour time in Scotland about now…….skip the alcohol….just read that Lanois interview Dunc….give your head two quick shakes and I guarantee that you will be happily wasted for the rest of the evening………….what complete gobbledygook……imagine having to spend months in the studio with this guy!!.........read Chronicles – much easier on the head……….

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Steve

Dunc if you want the definitive take on Bob's relationship with, Daniel Lanois, Dylan goes into some depth in his, Chronicles Vol 1, about working with Lanois, what Dylan got out of it and why he and other musicians want to work with Lanois. Time Out Of Mind won Dylan a Grammy for Album of The Year.

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David P.

Subject: Tell Tale Signs

Dunc: UNCUT magazine interviewed Daniel Lanois last year about his work with Dylan. (link above)

Another interview with engineer Mark Harmon also sheds some light on the "Oh Mercy" and "Time Out Of Mind" sessions: http://www.uncut.co. uk/music/bob_dylan/special_features/12267

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Ari S.

Weird guitar guy" 03-05-2007 11:30 Bob Dylan reportedly scared the children at his grandson's kindergarten after treating the class to a live show.The 'It 'Aint Me Babe' singer has allegedly been dubbed the "weird man" by children in the class, in the Los Angeles suburb Calabas, where his son Jakob Dylan's child attends.A source told the New York Post newspaper: "The kids have been coming home and telling their parents about the weird man who keeps coming to class to sing scary songs on his guitar.

"He's been visiting the school just for fun, but the kids don't appreciate they are in the presence of a musical legend."They just think of him as the weird guitar guy.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Jackson Browne

Like McCartney, Daltry and very few others, Jackson Browne remains one of the ageless wonders of music. His show last night here in Old Virginia was his first ever at Wolf Trap, a smaller venue than he used to play in the DC area (he mentioned playing at Meriweather-Post Pavilion in this area "for years"). His setlist was a good mix of old and newer stuff, a wise move which reminded me of Mr. Browne's guest spot on "The Simpsons" when he started a gig in Springfield by announcing "here's a new song," only to be greeted by a collective sigh from the crowd.

One crowd-pleasing moment came when he sang a song he co-wrote with Glen Frey, "Take it Easy," and used The Eagles faster arrangement rather than his own original sprawling one which originally featured the fine, distinctive lap steel work of former band member David Lindley. Another higlight was the last song of the show's second set, "Running on Empty," which was mentioned in a WASHINGTON POST story yesterday since the Republican National Committee lost a lawsuit brought on by Mr. Browne after the group used the song in anti-Obama advertising.

The first Jackson Browne concert I saw was a free one with Graham Nash, John Hall, Bonnie Raitt and John Sebastian, playing on the National Mall in DC 30 years ago, protesting nuclear power. John Hall, of course, is now a member of Congress, and Jackson Browne performed "I Am a Patriot" as his first encore, sounding as strong and sincere as ever.

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Peter V

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Kevin J

Tiger Woods: Patrick Roy was an NHL goalie who became a superstar in 1986. Within 10 years, 17 of 30 NHL starting goalies were French Canadian. Not just that, they all played his version of the butterfly style…….Tiger has been on the scene for 15 years and there has not been any mark left in terms an influx of black kids making it to the PGA tour……he has taken millions to build course in place like Abu Dhabi but very little that I can see to turn inner city kids in the USA and Canada onto golf. He could afford to build and subsidize 20 or 30 courses – I would imagine………no one ever seems to challenge him on this……….I read one time that David Duval is the only liberal on the tour. Apparently, the rest of the lot are Republicans………......Contrast and compare what Wynton Marsalis has done with his time and fame for music programs in the inner city and be happy most of us chose music as a passion over golf..........I do like John Daly's pants though!!!!

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David P.

Mysteriously, John Simon later denied any official involvement with "Stage Fright" in an interview with Lee Gabites in 1999.

[Simon]: "I didn't have anything to do with 'Stage Fright' except that I lived a mile from where it was recorded, so I dropped in once in awhile and listened to the progress of things."

In that same interview, Mr. Simon also revealed that decades later, during the mixing stage of "Jericho", the members of The Band at that time decided to finnish the album without Simon's input in the final decision making process. He did, however, receive (co)production credit.

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Bill M

Dunc: I think you're allowing yourself to be talked out of a sound position. Producers are not just involved in adding layers and mixing multitracks post-recording; they're generally involved in recording decisions right from the start - who plays what, who plays when and who plays how. And often they have a say in which songs are going to be recorded (though likely not in Dylan's case). So even if Dylan stripped off all the extras, he's still left with a Lanois production (or co-production if he adds a bunch of other things or remixes very differently). If you read the recently archived article on "Stage Fright" (see link), you can see something similar. You have John Simon clearly having been involved in the recording and in mixing (if not the mix that was chosen in the end) but later neither receiving nor seeking much credit.

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Nux

Subject: Ring of Fire

PETER VINEY Thought you might enjoy this unrehearsed jam session,filmed about 2 years ago

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dlew919

I think santana are a bit like dylan: on an on night there's no-one better, but on an off night. Amigos is one of my favourite albums

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Peter V

Santana on the other hand had their full stadium gear in a classical concert hall and were distorted, meandering, boring and one of the worst major bands I've ever seen live. But just last week, I was talking to someone about the best concerts we've ever seen and he said "Santana 1975" and it transpired we were talking about the same show in the same hall. But he also told me what he was on that night. It obviously made a big difference … like all those old Grateful Dead jokes!

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Dunc

Subject: Bob Dylan's house

Bob owns one of the great Highland houses. This description relates to the house before he bought it.

Peter:Probably Hot Chocolate suffered from rock snobbery in terms of critical acclaim? But were very popular.

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Dunc

Subject: David P

I had probably never thought about it deeply before, but I thought 'alternate take' meant another take done at the same time...like now we'll try this.

But what this means is that Daniel Lanois is getting production credits for tracks where he had no input at all. This will be because of legalities and money? You can see where I thought production was down to Lanois.

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Peter V

I've been playing The Equals quite a lot recently. There's a budget CD which is around with The Equals & The Foundations, but then I ran into a bunch of 45s … Baby Come Back, Viva Bobby Joe, Black Skinned Blue Eyed Boys, and at the time back in 1968 /69 I just thought they were chart stuff that I hummed along to, but in retrospect they were extremely good as well as being good fun. Hot Chocolate had a similar appeal, and were also very good live. Both "pre two-tone" groups.

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Ari S.

Robbie is in the news alot for his preparation and listing as a organizer for the 25th anniversary of Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concert.

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Amanda

Subject: Caravan - Golf Girl 1971

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Serenity

July 22 In 1376, according to German legend, a piper -- having not been paid for ridding the town of Hamelin of its rats -- led the town's children away, never to be seen again.

QUOTE from Rose Kennedy: "I'm like old wine. They don't bring me out too often, but I'm well preserved".

Take care and God Bless xoxo

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Serenity

Subject: Don Henley

LINK: Don Henley is 62 today. This is an oldie, but a goodie.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Serenity

Subject: Bobby Sherman

LINK: To Bobby Sherman on "Shindig". Remember him and the show? Turns 66 today.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Pat B

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bob w.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Wolf Trap and Bob Dylan's Putts

I'm sitting on the site of a former family farm here in Old Virginny, one which was donated by that wonderful Shouse family in order to create the first and only National Park for the performing arts. I've enjoyed this place many times over the years and tonight my brother and I have good seats (thanks to my brother) for Jackson Browne.

My daughter and I are going to see Dylan play with Nelson, Mellencamp and The Wiyos at a ball park in Norfolk on Saturday, but I'm surprised to hear Bob is a golfer. George Carlin did a great bit about how golf is an elitist sport (part of it said "F&#% Tiger Woods!) and we could solve homelessness in the USA by converting golf courses to homeless shelters.

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Amanda

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David P.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks Peter S B

I'm getting there. I really like the simplicity of these mixes, but I like Shot of Love, where I'd read about how he made Bob work as you stated, and Time Out of Mind. I just always assumed if a producer is credited with production and then is given 'special thanks' at the end of the album then he must have put a lot into it.

Thanks. I'm always willing to learn.

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Peter Stone Brown

Subject: Lanois again

Dunc, To answer your confusion about the Tell Tale tracks, yes Lanois originally produced them. The difference is that these are not his final mixes. They were mixed later on in New York without all the extra stuff he usually adds to the mix.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks, Kevin, Bill M

That's a help, Kevin. But say the producer is one of the players... as on Mississippi, where Lanois plays great guitar. I always thought that Lanois or somebody in a similar role would be the 'director' at this point.

Bill M:I'm going to get Eddy Grant's greatest hits, if it has 'Baby Come Back' on it.

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Kevin J

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Bill M

The first CD I ever owned was Eddy Grant's Greatest Hits, which I won from a calypso radio show when I was the first to call in with the name of a song on the album. I of course said "Electric Avenue", which I'd thought was a metaphor for turning on until I stayed for a time in Brixton, whose tube station backs onto Electric Avenue. Oddly enough, I thought of Brixton earlier this week when Herb came in to the GB looking to once again satisfy his obsession with Peter V. Most days when I walked home from the station in Brixton I passed a guy who'd whisper, "Herb's man?"

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Dunc

Subject: This one's especially for you David P

I was playing songs like this when you were all into Big P. Great song though.

Better than Pearl and Teddy, Peter. Thanks.

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Bill M

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Dunc

Subject: Sorry

In the last post perhaps I should have written 'then the following albums are coming from a Dylan who is in a happier place'. Sorry.

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Dunc

Subject: I'm lost, Kevin, Peter SB, David

Kevin, I agree with you that Disc 1 is really good.

When I look at the credits for disc 1 Daniel Lanois is credited with producing nine of the tracks, related to 'Time Out Of Mind' and 'No Mercy' . I'm seeing the recordings as other ways the tracks were recorded at the time. I think Mississippi, Red River Shore and Born In Time are beautiful tracks. Does he then not deserve credit for the production? As a non musician and non recording person, though big Dylan music player, what am I missing?

I like the last four Dylan albums, but particularly Modern Times and Love and Theft. I think if you didn't like Modern Times, you might not have enjoyed the last concert.

Is 'Time Out Of Mind', which I enjoy, not meant to be bleaker? Then the following albums are a celebration of Life.

Enjoying 'Together Through Life'.

I would recommend the two disc 'Tell Tale Signs' to fellow GBers.

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JQ

Deb - I'm with you, another of his that I found downright silly was Teatro by Willie Nelson, although I have to say that the idea of those 2 together sounded very interesting to me so I bought it straightaway. But it's deep pretension not deep ambiance to me - imagine Daniel Lanois with Lefty Frizell or the Louvins.

I remain of fan of DL too, we saw him in a small place about 15 years ago and it was transcendent.

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Peter V

Bill M: The great Mickey Waller was the Steampacket drummer. They were a "blow any band off the stage" line up, and Driscoll & Stewart in full flight were a sight to behold.

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David P.

I'm getting careless in my semi-retirement. The quotes should have read "He's not above smashing guitars" and "I thought too highly of the expressive meaning...".

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David P.

A perfect example of Lanois' methodology involves the song "Mississippi", an outtake from the "Time Out Of Mind" sessions that Dylan later recut for "Love and Theft". Explaining why he reworked the song, Dylan told David Fricke in Rolling Stone (9/10/01):

"If you heard the original [Lanois] recording, you'd see in a second. The song was pretty much laid out intact melodically, lyrically and structurally, but Lanois didn't see it. Thought it was pedestrian. Took it down the Afro-polyrhythm route -- multirhythm drumming, that sort of thing. Polyrhythm has its place, but it doesn't work for knifelike lyrics trying to convey majesty and heroism...Maybe we worked too hard on other things, I can't remember, but Lanois can get passionate about what he feels to be true. He's not about smashing guitars. I never cared about that unless it was one of mine. Things got contentious once in the parking lot. He tried to convince me that the song had to be 'sexy, sexy and more sexy.' I know about sexy, too. He reminded me of Sam Phillips, who had once said the same thing to John Prine about a song, but the circumstances were not similar. I tried to explain that the song had more to do with the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights than witch doctors, and just couldn't be thought of as some kind of ideological voodoo thing. But he had his own way of looking at things, and in the end I had to reject this because I though too highly of the expressive meaning behind the lyrics to bury them in some steamy cauldron of drum theory. On the performance you're hearing [Love and Theft version], the bass is playing a triplet beat, and that adds up to all the multirhythm you need, even in a slow-tempo song. I think Lanois is an excellent producer, though."

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Bill M

Thanks also for the CDs from years past. The Davy Graham is remarkable in any case, but especially as there was no takes or overdubbing. And today's listening is the Pavillion comp: I still think Baldry/Driscoll/Stewart's desperate "Don't Do It" runs rings around other versions. Who is that drummer?

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Pat B

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Peter Stone Brown

Subject: Lanois and Tell Tale

Kevin, agree with you on Lanois,and also on your comments on "Love And Theft." His productions are about him. He was important on "Oh Mercy" because he made Bob work, or maybe focus would be more accurate. One of the things that makes "Tell Tale Signs" interesting is that while Lanois produced the original sessions, the mixes for the most part on the album are not his, so you get a good idea of what the songs would have sounded like without the trademark Lanois ambiance. It is quite obvious that "Time Out Of Mind" for instance, could have been an entirely different record. The reason there are no outtakes from "Love & Theft" is that apparently they simply do not exist.

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Northern Boy

I'm shocked to see that the"I'M FAR FROM CHARMED BY STEVON FARM" fan club (with its already huge membership) has sent the head man himself out today to recruit even more members. NB

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Jan F.

Subject: Ilkka!

Sorry Ilkka for the misspelling of your name. Typing fast.

Bye,

J.F.

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Deb

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Jan F.

Carmen, wish I had more time to comment further on Kings of Leon, but I just don't see The Band's influence on them. I know people are influenced in different ways -- just MHO. Love their story. Think it would make a great movie. Well, OK, made for TV movie. Music is pretty good/lyrics (as most lyrics by groups today are, unfortunately, weak). Mr. Steve is a fan but I'm not -- I can listen to them as they are better than Coldplay. Good thing I didn't have more time . . . 8-)

Illka, gotta love those German cars and the Niedersachsen dude!

I'm off to the ATL. Play nice everyone and welcome back to our old friends from BFB!

J.F.

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Kevin J

Subject: Dunc.......Todd

Dunc: Glad to hear you are enjoying Tell Tale Signs. Disc 1 is just great listening. Interesting though that I differ with you on Daniel Lanois. It wasn’t until Dylan decided to produce himself with “Love and Theft” that we saw a return to a master work…….note that what makes Tell Tale Signs great is the arrangements of songs that Lanois decided not to use. There is little or no material from the golden Jack Frost era. The press fell all over themselves in praising the Lanois albums but they are two that I almost never listen to…..I have listened to Tell Tale Signs more in the last year than I have either of Time out of Mind or Oh Mercy…….As to “Together Through Life” – stick to 6 songs (1, 5, 6, 7, 9 and 10) and it is as good as it gets – the most played music in my life over the last month.

Todd: You might find the above link interesting! Who knew "Can't Hardly Wait" could have had horns!

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Ilkka

Subject: 1.) Empty Forever? 2.) Niedersachsen Dude and German cars

1.) Every 14th day or so I check if EMPTY NOW is blowing my mind here... (Nope). 2.) Whether Porsche will buy VW or VW will buy Porsche, our NIEDERSACHSEN DUDE will pay for this family feud :)))))))))))))))))))

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Brien Sz

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bob w.

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Steve

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Steve

By the way, I'm recommending you maintain your GB handle when you golf. With Norther Boy joining The Tiger on the tour the PGB will start to achieve a World Wrestling Federation cache(eh) that will bring in even better TV ratings. If Norman gets some body parts replaced and comes back to the big circuit, advertisers would be drooling at the thought of a tournament with the Headline , THE SHARK VS THE TIGER VS NORTHERN BOY. Actually the new,"Body Parts Replacement Tour" would out draw and out money the Skins games. Skins, Ha! We're talking, spleens, livers (AKA The Daly, Open Bar,Open) hips, knees and of course you'd bring a whole new dementia to the game as the tours first living brain donor.

Now if all this should come to pass, you'll have to reveal your real name to Bob, so he can drop it at social functions. If he tells people he's a close personal friend of Northern Boy the non golfers might think he's friends with a race horse earning him very little added coolness.

Brien while you're right of course about that putt, don't try and tell Bob anything about the game, he's seen millions of hours of the game on TV.

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bob w.

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Peter V

I did lights on Pearl Carr & Teddy Johnson for twelve weeks (they were way down the bill by then). They did Sing Little Birdie, then they dressed up as Pearly King & Queen for a Cockney medley then they did something else equally awful which thankfully I can't remember.

For our North American readers, they had the Eurovision song contest entry in 1959 with Sing Little Birdie and came, I think, second.

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dlew919

Subject: Lloyd Loar: Guitar maker

thought some of you might be interested in this article on one of the great interwar music instrument development...

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Brien Sz

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bob w.

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dlew919

Not a big fan (I hate 'musicians' who use other people's stuff, though, in all fairness, he puts it all together tastefully at times), but does all his stuff on an Atari 128 kb machine. so, the machine in the studio itself is probably sufficient.

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Steve

My favorite "athlete" on that circuit is the chain smoking , over weight, Mexican fellow who won one of those tournaments ( the US Open?)last year.

nb, that was an unidentified flying object. When you spoke to Weir did you ask him what he thinks his chances of ever winning another major are? Even if he doesn't win he's got a great gig as filler on the tour, somebody has to make the winner look good. Maybe Weir should take up smoking and throw in a couple of Daly's pregame shooters. With golf you never know what will up the level of your play.

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Dunc

Subject: Various, including quiz question

Peter:Remember on Crackerjack the singing of that week's hits fitted around a pantomime type sketch at the end of each show. The script writers and Peter Glaze must have worked under some pressure. There's now an argument in this house. Did Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson front Crackerjack before Eamomn Andrews or am I imagining this?

Bob W:I was disappointed that Watson never won. Arguably, it would have been one of the greatest sporting achievements of all time.

Steve:Arran is easy to get to from here compared to say Skye or Mull. The garden is finished. Hope Angus is fine.

Recording. In my 'review' of Levon's album I said that the album was done with integrity. It looks a pretentious statement, but I feel Levon's last two albums were done with care. I felt cheated in the past when I read about bands and individuals (who I liked) not caring about an album they were making, shoving on a couple of fillers etc.

Kevin and anybody:I bought 'Tell Tale' signs two disc version and am really enjoying the musicianship, which may be due a lot to Daniel Lanois. I would recommend this album.

Topical quiz question. Digital or analogue. What is the highest selling digitally recorded song in Europe? Clue:I've worded this carefully.

Joan:Hope you are well. Keep up the good fight.

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Peter V

Bill M, I'd never thought about Chad & Jem being related to Eamonn Andrews' kids show, Sadly it's less interesting. Like The Beatles in December that year, they were quoting Lewis Carroll!

The time has come," the Walrus said,

"To talk of many things:

Of shoes, and ships, and sealing-wax

Of cabbages, and kings--

And why the sea is boiling hot

And whether pigs have wings."

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Pat B

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Friend0

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Serenity

Subject: Kay Starr

LINK: To Kay Starr singing, "Wheel Of Fortune". Remember her? She turned 87 today.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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bob w.

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bob w.

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Friend0

Subject: Got Deep Pockets?

Sonoma Mountain Studio Estate Penngrove, CA USA
Buy It. Move In. Hit the Record Button.
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• 1800 feet up Sonoma Mountain facing the Pacific Ocean
• World-class recording studio featured in MIX magazine & disguised as a New England horse barn.
• Includes state-of-the art studio electronics & equipment and the latest
version of ProTols digital recording system and a Neve mix desk.
• Studio features a lobby lounge, main studio, 2 isolation rooms, control
room, machine room, producer’s suite & large deck w/retractable awning overlooking the valley & sunset w/distant ocean views Estate -
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• 25 telephones, 11 refrigeration units, and 4 kitchens
• Theater & Entertainment Suite in a separate building
• Tennis court & accoutrements including a ball machine, sweeper
• Large pebble-bottom heated outdoor pool & whirlpool spa
• A Gazebo w/ceiling fan & lighting
• Award-winning landscaping w/multiple gardens & natural stone paths,
stairs & walls • Exquisite interior design, furnishings, & hand-crafted wood workings throughout studio & residential buildings
• 3 wells & latest water purification, softening & pressure systems
• Fiber optic wiring between buildings
• Alarm systems throughout
• Revenue $100,000 to $300,000 monthly

irene dekker real estate, linked above

asking 5.5 million

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Carmen

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Serenity

Subject: Paul McCartney

LINK: Paul on Dave Lettermen. Enjoy!!

CYA soon xoxoxo

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bob w.

Subject: La Jolla

NB, I'm afraid Tom had nothing left in the tank after that difficult finish. With five previous Open titles there's no other explanation. Still a great story and an amazing effort.

If you did make it to La Jolla you could enjoy the charms of Torrey Pines (if you haven't already) and save the Whispering Pines for another time.

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Northern Boy

Thanks for the link re: Ridge Watson. Quite interesting. We have a pretty good wine area here in BC ourselves, the Okanagan and we did enjoy the Napa Valley, particulary the Robert Mondave vineyard. T.W is a class act from head to toe. To me he is the modern-day embodiment of the spirt of Bobby Jones. For him to get all the way to the playoff before losing speaks volumes. I thought he'd be out of it by the turn and I'd be out cutting the lawn by then.

As it turns out, I'd be in La Hoya, Ca in mid-October for a family gathering and could maybe get to Ridges's winery myself were it not for the fact that my Pittsburgh Steeler-crazed wife has somehow landed Row1 tickets behind the Steelers bench for an early November game in Denver. For me this will be a massive yawn session so perhaps I'll bring a book to read during the game. Just ordered Whispering Pines so maybe I'll take that.

During the last PGA event in Vancouver we stayed in the same hotel as the players and actually hung out with some of them. Because we booked in there early, our room was on one of the player floors so we had access to their private lounge. Talked to Aaron Baddely in the elevator and Mike Weir in the underground parking, but I'd trade all that in to have met "Huck Finn" the way in which you did. Now there's an experience to cherish for a lifetime, as Tom's a bona fide legend. I was fortunate enough to get to see him play in the 1970's in a small-field event in Toronto when he was in his prime. His "first prime" that is, seeing as he just about won the British Open last week. Now if I were a farmer who sees flying saucers over his barn then perhaps my golf commentary here could've been a little more insightful and informative Bob, but I'm not so I've just tried to do the best I can in the hope that you'll forgive me for any shortcomings in what I've written. As soon as I retire, it's back to Ireland and Scotland for more links golf for me. Turnberry here I come ! Thanks again. NB

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brown eyed girl

I thought so Joan but I thought I'd ask. I sincerely hope you're that much closer to getting to a Ramble as you've stated before. Your spirit is strong and so you'll be stronger physically day by day.....Here's hoping!

For Joan in case you missed it. From in my dreams to youtube.....Here's Rick from the One Heart Festival San Francisco.

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bob w.

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Fred

or is Joe Jackson right singing that it's a big world?

anyhow, I just saw & heard The Weight being sung in Japanese. Some concert footage, a couple of Japanese rappers were involved too.

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Steve

Dunc your timing was great. Two days after you mentioned the Isle of Arran I heard an interview with the author of Kenneth Grahame's most recent biography, from her home on The Isle Of Arran. An even stranger coincidence happened as I'm typing this post. A guy on the radio quoted the " messing about in a boat" line from The Winds In The Willows as I was typing Grahame's name.

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Bill M

Speaking of Nashville session guitarists, a visit to the sacred vinyl store on Friday yielded the Kelly Jay's pre-Crowbar 45, "Curlers And Cream" / "Got To Get Myself Together". The first is a pleasant Bobby-pop song written by Fred Carter, who I suspect produced the session (which Kelly told me - in maybe '77 - had been recorded in Nashville). The flip side is a rocker, so, not having heard of writer Ray Pennington, I assumed it was by some anonymous local guy. Not at all the case, it turns out; as I'm sure David P could tell us, Pennington seems to have had a long career in Nashville, as a writer and performer. Kelly Jay, by the way, did an even earlier 45, in '61 or '62, and before that was in Larry Lee and the Leesures, who worked the same circuit as Hawkins and the Hawks, who had rooms in the same Toronto hotel, and whose first album ('62, post-Kelly) included a couple of songs from the Hawkins playbook - songs that the Hawks had recorded with Henry Glover but that weren't released until the 1965 "Best of Ronnie Hawkins" LP.

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Bill M

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bob w.

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Peter V

Subject: Crackerjack Link

The "cabbage contest" was called Double or Drop. See link.

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Peter V

The show they're playing on in the great video Serenity linked is Crackerjack. It was Childen's TV, 5pm several days a week with the odd pop group. The highlight of the show was a quiz where kids answered questions and had to hold all the prizes until they dropped a prize then they were out. Every other prize was a large cabbage. You think I'm joking … I'm not! Dunc? Rush to my assistance here. Many bands of that era performed on it.

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Kevin J

Amanda: Thanks for the information on Jim Dickinson. He produced one of my all time favorite albums - The Replacements "Pleased to Meet Me" - a great work from a great band at its peak. I have never heard another album that sounded quite like it.....sadly, another case of someone getting sick in a land without a proper health care system....the indignity of having to have a benefit concert to pay for a heart operation - sad.

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Amanda

Subject: Jim Dickinson

It's so sad that somebody as important as this has to have a benefit concert. He performed and produced some great music.

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Joan

Hi BEG, As the crow flies I'm about 20 miles from Midtown Manhattan. By train it takes 45 minutes non rush hour. The town I live in is called Port Washington. Its on the North Shore of Long Island.

There is always something going on musically, but since I'm a bit hung up by my physical problems, I don't get to too much.

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Charlie Y

Subject: Peter & Gordon...and Buddy

Serenity: I loved that live clip of Peter & Gordon performing "World Without Love." I wonder which show that was. There was apparently a decent studio band playing anonymously behind them. I know "Shindig" had some good players including Leon Russell.

The thing that struck me visually was Peter Asher's Buddy Holly-style glasses, fitting since the author of the tune, Paul McCartney, was always such a Buddy Holly fan. It's amazing how artists as diverse as Peter & Gordon and The Band could both find significant influence from Mr. Holly.

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brown eyed girl

Yikes!! I just made a mistake....I would also add "Violet Eyes" on Levon's "American Son". But still....BHOBH is my absolute fave. If I want to hear about a China Girl I'd rather listen to David Bowie and Iggy Pop's song. Although I think they're singing about different things here. lol In anycase I paid huge bucks for the import years ago. I did purchase "Dirt Farmer" at Rochester's House Of Guitars but really only dig two songs so when "Eclectic Dirt" came out I just downloaded my two faves. Also The Big Pink CD in the store is up with Rick Danko's signature.

Sebastian: I wonder why Jan H hasn't put up Robbie's latest photos that I sent to him and shared on this site?

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warzinski @joenet

Subject: hecla jamboree

HECLA SLATE DUMP FLOWERS IMAGE

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brown eyed girl

imagezulu and I really enjoyed "Cadillac Records" as well. He really liked Little Walter of course. If ya want air conditioning in your car.....ya just take out the doors!...Listening right now to "Everything's Gonna Be Alright". ;-D Truth be told imagezulu is so into Muddy that sometimes first thing in the morning he's got him blaring away. I thought Howlin' Wolf was portrayed so well and yes...I also was very surprised at what Beyonce brought to the project. So much so that I think I'll buy the soundtrack.

Anything music wise happening in NYC this weekend besides the Bluezz Cruise with Los Lobos? You're not close to Manhattan are you Joan?

Wow....Last night I had Rick Danko in my dreams. I even tried to do his laundry but one of his look-a-like friends told me not to as Rick was 53 and could do his own laundry! LOL

I was also pleasantly surprised with Johnny Depp's latest "Public Enemies".

I downloaded the following Michael Jackson tunes...
Scream with Janet Jackson
You Are Not Alone
I Want You Back with The Jackson Five
I still remember the movie "Ben" about all those rats.

Best and only song I really dig on Levon's "American Son" is.......Peter Stone Brown knows......"Blue House Of Broken Hearts". I really like when he sings ballads. He makes you believe that his heart can be broken. I was never into the whole "Americana" thing so that's why Robbie's solo work resonates more with me. Even The Band songs....The songs that move me are the ones that aren't specifically about "Americana". I can appreciate the writing and singing of "TNTDODD" but it's never been a song that I can relate to. IMND and WP and TW....yes!

Listening now to one of Robbie's faves.....Little Willie John.

Hi Peter....ohhh....now it's Little Walter singing "I'm just your fool"....all thanks to imagezulu.....He's so full of the bluezzz.

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Peter V

The Phil Spector one would be the natural follow-up, with Beyonce as Ronnie Spector. She even has those almond shaped eyes for the riole. Let’s hope she does it. It’s a great part.

I saw Mick Ronson play before he was a Spider from Mars.

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Kevin J

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Joan

Subject: Etta on Beyonce

Etta was not happy.

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Peter V

Biopics … yes, I’d agree with Northern Girl and rate Cadillac Records over Ray. But I’d rate Ray over Beyond the Sea (mainly because the latter missed out all Bobby Darin’s best stuff). I thought it was as good as I Walk The Line, which is high praise indeed. It’s got a lot of story, which helps, plus terrific music. The Chuck Berry bits were a bit glossed over. And where was Bo Diddley? But I reckon it’s an enjoyable film to watch.

Much more politely than Etta, P.P. Arnold is known to launch into Rod Stewart, with a “Let me tell Rod Stewart, the first cut IS the deepest …”. I thought Beyonce would come out like Diana Ross did as Billie Holiday (i.e. not as good as the original), but no, she hit it with full power and really took it home.

So who’s next for the treatment?

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Northern Boy

Ditto for us Peter. We both enjoyed it considerably, despite it (surprisingly) doing so poorly in North American theatres and receiving poor reviews. If "Ray" (which I own) is a better music flick, it isn't better by that much of a margin. Northern Girl actually prefers "Cadillac Records" over "Ray". I guess Ray Charles is a household name so people went to the theatres for that one, but Muddy Waters, not so much. Beyonce's presence should have drawn in the younger crowd but didn't I guess. She was indeed great.

Careful you don't praise Beyonce too highly though Peter, or you'll be on Etta's hit list, and Etta as you know, has a sewer mouth on her that would make Roz sound like a kingergarten teacher. A professional blues singer friend of mine saw Etta a few months ago in a casino venue in Vancouver, and though she only did about eight songs, she said Etta was terrific. I think the film "Cadillac Records" would be quite worthwhile for anyone here who's not seen it. NB

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Kevin J

The above link to the great Argument Clinic courtesy of the Flying Circus – thanks Bill M……… next up Golf – digital vs analog!!!

BFB remains a mythical place that I have never been able to find……Google only brings up a chance to hear Rick sing which is never a bad thing but I keep thinking that I am missing out on a great after hours bar where all the folks have access to wicked drinks and tell wild wild stories……......Steve was nice eneough to provide a hint as to its location a year or so ago but I never did figure it out......

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Pat B

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Peter V

On the Muddy Waters theme, I finally got to see Cadillac Records last night. It was released on DVD here yesterday. Adrien Brody (Leonard Chess), as in The Pianist and The Darjeeling Limited, was brilliant. Eamonn Walker as Howlin’ Wolf radiated power too.

I didn’t think Jeffrey Wright nailed Muddy Waters though. While The Wolf would intimidate 99.9% of people, I have the impression Muddy would have been in the remaining 0.01%. They showed him coming to England in 1967, when I saw him. The real Muddy radiated charisma, dignity and power to a degree that transcended the music and which was tangible in the front row of the audience standing by the stage (where I was). The Jeffrey Wright version was a bit of a poseur with a bad-tempered grimace.

To be pedantic, No Particular Place To Go doesn’t fit in 1957, and was one of the two post-prison hit singles here. Considering it was mentioned yesterday, it was weird to see Chuck listening to Surfin' USA on the radio and exclaiming 'That's Sweet Little Sixteen'.

The huge surprise was Beyonce as Etta James. The DVD cover says she “burns off the screen” and she really does. After we’d watched her, I played some original Etta James, and I think Beyonce actually does it better. That was a major shock. I’ll now raid the CDs my daughter left here and play some Beyonce / Destiny’s Child.

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joe j

Electric Dirt was waiting when I got home and I've given it a couple of metaphoric spins. It's growin. You know my fears about 'Stuff You Gotta Watch' were unfounded. It's a great arrangement.

Blues Night at the Lodge on Thursday, open house at Chez Jennings on Friday. You're all invited of course. If you can't make it you can still make a donation. Cash appreciated.

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Peter V

Quentin Tarantino had a radio programme on last week called Quentin Tarantino’s Jukebox. He has a room at home set up like a record store with browsing bins in categories for 7” and 12”, and has sections like “Surf Music” and “Horror Soundtracks” and has at least four country sections with distinctions that he described, like “old country”. I’d love to have that.

Anyway, Tarantino waxed eloquent on vinyl, and said that he only used the actual records from his own collections on film soundtracks. This was because he conceived the films while playing the records, and he said the hiss and scratches were an integral part of the sound he was hearing. However, he didn’t say hisses and scratches were a good thing, just that he wanted the soundtrack to sound like a record being played on a jukebox. Hiss is part of the nostalgia industry.

As an analogy, an interview in one of the rock mags described a Nevada hotel. You rent a room with a large old American car in it, and you can have rain on the roof if you want. Making out in a car would have little nostalgic appeal for the British, who lived in the days of the Austin Mini. But apparently it’s popular with middle-aged couples in America re-living their youth. Like the hiss and scratches it’s a nostalgia exercise. But is it necessarily a better experience?

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Friend0

Back about a month ago, you made your infamously mistaken statement "After the blowup in New Orleans, Garth became an upper east coast local performer while retaining his international reputation in the studio." During your epic refusal to admit that you were mistaken you wrote "I write exactly what I think".

BTW, you obviosuly knew exactly to what I was referring. And I wasn't here 8 years ago.

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Serenity

LINK: This was my fave from Peter and Gordon. Love it... Take care and God Bless xoxoxo

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Serenity

Subject: Peter and Gordon

LINK:A tribute to Peter and Gordon. It's a mixture of artists, but the song is there to listen to.

Not a bad vid. These guys were good. I'm going to post another goodie next. CYA soon xoxoxo

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Phil

Subject: FriendO Pat B

FriendO, we get that you don't like digital recordings. We also get that Pat B likes to record in the digital domain. Let's move along now. Thanks

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Friend0

I like the way analogue recording sounds. I;ve recorded plenty of analogue without tape hiss. The only time i really have it is the one tme the friggin engineer left an empty track open when we mixed. It was my second mixing session ever. The first and only time I mixed with this engineer and I did n't enjoy working with him. We ended up with a very good mix, but it was an effort to deal with him. The one mistake I overlooked that night was his leaving the track open.

anyway, that is my only track with tape hiss. What I actually meant was that becAuse tape hiss is symptomatic of analogue, it ha s a good association for me. If I know the tape hiss I hear at the beginning of something i'm familair with means that I'm gonna hear a great song that sounds great, I;m happy to hear that tape hiss.

Obviosuly I dont enjoy the sound of digital recording.Let me listen to a mix, or a master, or a cd, being told there was no error involved I can tell if it was recorded digital or analogue right off. Buying a cd, or hearing a cd, without the knowledge there were no mastering or manufacturing errors, The only unknown for me- when i hear something that sounds poor, not only do i figure it was recorded digitally, but, in that case and also if it sounds decent, but not great, I wonder if it may have been recorded well and analogue but fucked up by the cd factory. Happens all the time.

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Pat B

I doubt anyone can argue with your evident point that anything is possible.

Does tape actually capture sound better by introducing hiss? Or do you like music better when tape hiss accompanies it?

You also keep repeating that I mean what I write and that I think I'm right. Could we have a show of hands: does anyone post things they don't mean? Does anyone post anything assuming they are wrong? Jeff, do you?

Okay, over eight years ago I said Bush and Gore weren't very different, and that although I preferred the pothead over the drunk coke hound, I didn't care much. I was wrong.

Jeff, I'm more than happy to agree to disagree on digital vs. analog.

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Friend0

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Friend0

Lots of kinds of errors pat. You know it and I know it. in your initial response to my error statement, you referred to no digital loss of sound. Loss is just one kind of error. But of course, you can consider altering time ,(which alters key and pitch,and is a very common digital error)) a loss of sound. Because it is a loss of accuracy of sound.

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Charlie Y

I was sorry to hear about the passing of 64-year-old Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon fame. I remember buying 45 rpm discs by that duo, and then seeing Peter Asher's name turn up on a lot of 1970s Southern California albums. It's funny to think that Peter and Gordon's song "Lady Godiva" could have ever been considered controversial given the fact most teens now are regularly exposed to obscene hip hop recordings that would make Lady Godiva blush.

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Friend0

Far as you sounding better with digital, it is possible you don't , but think you do. Orof course, it is very possible you do. Maybe you weren't a great anolgue engineer but are a great digital engineer. It could happen you know. Nothing wrong with that.

Me, I love the sound of a little tape hiss. I'm not joking. But I will run at 15 IPS to avoid it as much possible too.

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Pat B

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Friend0

For a guy who claims he always writes exactly what he means, and who always insists he is absolutey right, and is not wrong, I do believe you just did a turn around on digital error. I didn't even hear the whoosh of a dreidl spinning. Might be a new day dawning.

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dlew919

this place is like an argument clinic? No it isn't!

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Pat B

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Sara

Ray, is a great shop,well worth a visit

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Serenity

Subject: Beach Boys

LINK: To my fave Beach Boy song. Enjoy!!

DAVID P: Don't you dare leave us. We would miss you too much. I agree with the other posters, you are vital to this GB. I left for a long time, but now back posting now and again. If you leave you will miss this place just like I did. There are a lot of great guys here to "talk" to.

DLEW: Thanx for the mention. I love history to no end. Get in my inbox every day. Lots of news too, but can't link because it's too private.

PETER: I'm a huge fan of the Beach Boys. Link is the one I play a lot from youtube.com. I think their music is addictive. As well as the Bee Gees. I have their DVD, "One Night Only" and they cover all their hit songs.

JAN: Your kids will be OK. Does them good to get away. They appreciate what they have at home more. I had a daughter who moved to Rochester. She belonged to a New Jersey drum and bugle corps and was gone a year. She was so glad to be back home. Now she has a son in a local corps. Wonderful thing for the younguns. Travel to many different places in the US and some in Canada.

BILL M: Thanx for the link. Great book and pics of our guys.

FO: Thanx to you too for the link of GARTH. Now that's "KEWL" as my daughter always says. This cyber talk is hard to understand sometimes, but I'm learning.

ARI: No, but will check it out now.

NORBERT: Right you are about DAVID P. Good link to the Hollies. Other vids listed were great too. Thanx.

CYA soon Take care and God Bless. xoxoxo

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Kevin J

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Ray

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Amanda

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Pat B

As far as error testers go, all media need to be analyzed and tested constantly. That's been SOP in audio since I started in the 70's. So digital has its own set of problems--big deal. Heck, tape needed noise reduction because of hiss, and different NR technologies used different processes. And discerning engineers would hate Dolby and love DBX--and vice versa. And it all sounded different.

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JTull Fan

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Bill M

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Steve

By the way, don't hang David's most recent departure on me. I never suggest people stay or go or what they can say when they're here. I criticize and am open to it in return. If you can point to what I said that you think sent him packing, I'm ready.

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Serenity

Sorry, no link as it came in my personal mail, but thought I would send it along.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

New album from NYC's Assembly of Dust recalls The Band

Assembly of Dust, "Some Assembly Required" (Rock Ridge)

With at least one guest performer on every cut, Assembly of Dust's second studio album could have been a mess. Instead, frontman Reid Genauer wisely keeps on the focus on his songs, and their considerable charms are enhanced by the parade of talent on "Some Assembly Required."

The result is a rootsy folk-rock record reminiscent of The Band, in part because Genauer's singing recalls Richard Manuel and Rick Danko. His warm, rustic tenor is the kind of voice to which fans at multistage outdoor festivals gravitate.

Genauer's New York City-based quartet blends elements of guitar rock, bluegrass, jazz and the blues with help from such luminaries as Tony Rice, Bela Fleck, Jerry Douglas, David Grisman, John Scofield and Richie Havens.

Topics include domestic disharmony, empty dreams and Leadbelly, but when Genauer sings, "Hold on tightly, no one's steering this thing," it's not true. He has Assembly of Dust headed in a fascinating direction.

CHECK THIS OUT: "Arc of the Sun" soars thanks to shimmering guitars and a fusillade of bass notes from Phish's Mike Gordon, while Genauer pairs a lovely melody with touching lyrics to his newborn son. "Make yourself at home," Genauer begins. "We've been expecting you."

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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David P.

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Friend0

Didn't your website used to say that you embraced digital recording in 1986 and never looked back? 1986, that was along time ago, digital sound sucked even worse back then.

I'm not about to link yor site, that's your business,. but you really are being too bashful. The amount of film, doucmentary and commercial work you have done and do, really is staggering. I'm not being sarcastic. You have built an incredibly strong prodduction studio for film, tv, and commercials. Not an easy feat. For your needs, digital is more suitable. No two ways about it. It still won't sound as good as if it was analogue, but it is a horse of a different color anyway. Analogue just wouldn't fly.

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Ray

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rich

Subject: american son

american son is available is available as part of a 2 on one disc with the studio levon and the rco all stars album.its on hmv online for £13.99.good sleevenotes too.i picked up my copy from spillers records in cardiff.they've always got a great selection of levon/band albums.spillers is a great shop,well worth a visit

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Peter V

Linking the other post, at the same time as I went to college my mother moved into an apartment. When I got back at Christmas, my collection of Richmal Crompton’s Just William books, collected over ages 8 to 14 had been given away. I’ve spent the last forty years trying to re-collect the set. Only one left to go.

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Joan

I started College in 1964. The Beach Boys were super popular. We were allowed to play music and be "noisy" for an hour after dinner. The Beach Boys music used to pour out into the halls. Very fond memories

Elliot Landy's book is worth it. (If for nothing else but the awesome photo of Rick). There is also a great photo os Garth I've never seen before.

Jan F. It sounds like your kids are off for a great adventure.

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Bill M

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Jan F.

Subject: Catching up?

No way I'm reading all that stuff.

Moving a kid to Japan has taken up more time that I had imagined. He brought his albums and CDs up to D.C. this past weekend to store at our house. I'm headed to the ATL on Wed to see them off -- they leave on Sat for Tokoyo and then on to Hiroshima/Kure on Tuesday or Wednesday. This will be home for the next year, maybe two.

バイバイ (for now).

J.F.

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JTull Fan

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Bill M

The bookstore didn't have the book about Don Messer I was looking for, but it did have Elliott Landy's fabulous "Woodstock Vision", with tons of photos of our guys (see link). There was one of Rick holding one of those lawn sticks that hold either a candle or a beer bottle; Rick looks like one of those 22-year-olds who's just grown 'cause he's tired of being asked to show his ID.

I'd say that a "The Best of Levon" comp would mostly be a bunch of Band tracks. The reason for that might be that the Band songs that he sang had apparently been written specifically with Levon in mind. Can that be said of most of the post-Band stuff?

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Kevin J

Steve: You are accurate on most things described Canadian….but not on the “serve your Country” phrase……I have never heard it used to describe civil servants or politicians. It is used often in the exact same way Joan used it to describe the brave men and women of our military. Is it so difficult from time to time to just acknowledge that a comment may have been insensitive – say so – and then move on?

David P: I love ya – but you are somewhere between Michael Jordan and Brent Farve now on the retirement count. Rumour has it that BFB only has a 2 year deal on the table – this place is offering a 5 year “no trade/no movement” deal…..oh and Steve’s people have been seen to be looking at apartments in the Yukon – key bit of information there is – NO Internet Access!!!!

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Pat B

There is no sound lost in a digital transfer, whether to a client a block away or 5000 miles away. The mail isn't used. And dithering eliminates error rate problems within files while conversion products can turn any file into the file format you want.

Yup, I read the Shelby Lynne article and admire her for it. Doesn't change the facts.

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Friend0

Pat, while it is a very scary thing to do, people did used to ship tapes all over the goddamn place so muscians could record in other locations. There were other , less acceptable methods too I believe.

Digital recroding is far less expensive Pat. Far less time consuming and far less of an art. (and when someone may rely on lining up waves rather than coordination, or their ears beign correct, that's a bad sign. not rampant, but it happens)

And the democratization you speak of falls far short of the superior side of the digital spectrum. The vast majority of digital recordings are made on equipment that is light years away from the best pro tools and the best plug ins. Which to me still suck

The dumbing down of the recording process is huge. It has been and it still is. Without going into detail as to why i beleive this, you should easily admit I;m right on this one. So many people are recordign poorly, when before the had to learn how to do it well. And peoepl who are recordng on poor soudning equipment are destroying their own ears and their own music, and other people's music .

Projects did have to go to real studios before pat. but recording did not have to be done by labels. Peopel did buy tape m,achines, and teach themsleves how to recor dproperly. On tape. It often was musicians who wanted to record their own work.thatls how they started recording. Many became great engineers. with great studios. before digital, all began with tape. Tape studios were everywhere. Noone had to go to a label if they did not want to Pat. The label deal was often the dream, the goal,and was attainable. Was it perfect, ni. wa sit better, yes. And did everyone have to go to a major label, no.

Plenty engineers taught themsleves on tape, opened their own little stdio, bult great studios and bsuiensses., They all have pro tools now too. I don't personally know any great engineer who likes the sound of the best digital as well as good tape. I do know many enginewers who won't publicly demonize digital, because they don't want to lose business. Especialy the studio owner engineers. ( not that it matters oi this , but you do own your studio, don't you. I could be wrong, but I thoguht yur studio specializes in commercial work, and film too. which deosnlt lessen the purity of your prefernces, or your dedication to digital.I;m just askign here)

I donlt agree that musicians being able to record by sending files over a comoputer is necessarily a good thing.So much soudn can be lost int he process. And thoguh you proponets of digital all want to push it undeer the table,. the error rate is still very high. If you can't admit that errors effect time and sound, separately and together, you are publicly dealing from the bottom of the deck. If time and sound, togethr and sepoarately ( and of course time is a big part of how sound sounds), are altered, that sure will effect the part some one plays or sings on a internet sent piece of music. It would also be effected on that same piece in person, if the errors occurred.

There are a whole bunch of other reasons I like the idea of musicians, producers and other peopel being together in a room. I don'tl like mailing tapes, that is for sure.

I remember Shelby Lynne's wonderful article where she says every time she recorded digitally it would make her want to smash her guitar.

spent too much time here, gotta go

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Peter V

I thought Herge was asking about Lu Lu. I never met Lulu, but I did use to stay with friends who lived opposite her in London, and I often saw her getting out of her Mini (by which I mean the type of car). This was 1968 / 69 when she was married to a Bee Gee. It's a small claim to fame by remote visual association. I bought "Shout" new several years earlier. I commented favourably on her recent soul covers album. She looks much younger than 60. She was very funny as the Mum in the Adrian Mole TV sit-com. She coped with the situation when Hendrix famously stopped "playing this shit" on her TV show and played something else. To Sir With Love was the biggest-selling record of its year in the USA, but inexplicably the UK label declined to release it. On Saturday I saw a near mint copy of Dorothy Previne's Don't Bring Lulu (from The Roaring 20s TV show) for 50p and bought it. My neighbour had a small poodle named Lulu. I think I've word associated as much as I can word associate.

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Steve

Peter, you've never mentioned anything about that liaison with Lulu. Do tell.

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dlew919

It's interesting how digital has gotten better - as Pat said, compression rates have improved to the point where many of Young's arguments (which included the idea that higher frequencies adn harmonics are not part of it) are much less.

It is, however, a litle bit like the Electric Guitar - Muddy Waters (?) realised the electric guitar wasn't necessarily worse than an acoustic, but it was DIFFERENT!

I remember hearing Joe Satriani speak of using drum machines - something along the lines of people would complain that his drum parts (programmed with a machine) didn't sound like a real drummer, and indeed, a real drummer couldn't play it. Satriani retorted that if he wanted to use a real drummer, he'd have used one - why be hamstrung by the limitations of a human?

that's not to say Jeff's wrong, by the way - but neither is Peter or Pat. (I, naturally, am, but we all know that...). It's a good discussion.

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Peter V

The Beatles remasters will be an interesting case. They were done four years ago and have been sitting waiting. I think LOVE was outstanding.

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dlew919

neil young wrote a terrific essay on how digital music was killing the industry - this would have been about 1992 or 1993. without entering into the sound debate, I will say that cheap home recording has never been better.

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Peter V

There are a few classic Beach Boys songs I don’t “get” too much, like In My Room (which isn’t on my iPod), but they have a folder on my iPod to themselves, reduced to a mere sixty-two essential songs. Surf’s Up is there in its entirety, and I listened through it in the car last Friday again.

I can’t add to the technical discussion on digital / analogue (except that Pat sounds right to me). In my own spoken voice area, digital means you get three times as much work done in a day BUT the downside on drama is that it’s too easy to repair stuff. The actors do a dialogue, someone fluffs or says the wrong word or whatever, and the engineer patches it in. In the open reel days it was just easier to do the whole bit again. As actors fluff quite a lot when they can’t deviate from the exact words, you ended up rehearsing twice then doing a passage four or five times minimum. Now the first reading often forms the master, and gets patched. That means the end result is often not as good because by the fifth or sixth time, professional radio actors were no longer reading, they’d memorized it, or reinterpreted it, or retimed it. And a five day session is replaced by a two day session. The social aspect of chatting while the engineer fiddled around with the tape has gone too and you drink less coffee. I don’t know how that applies to music, but there’s an old cassette of the takes for We Can Talk from Big Pink. I can’t find my copy so can’t recall how many takes there were. Fifteen? Sixteen? All with the whole ensemble playing too. You could do it that way now, and obviously, digital doesn’t stop you doing that, but the impetus would be to drop in the corrected notes on an instrument in a little passage later. That’s nothing to do with technology or analogue sounding better, it’s just the way you’re able to use digital. But you don’t have to.

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Pat B

I also think reducing the whole thing to money is silly. Digital technology has opened many more sonic doors than it has closed. It also has democratized what was once a pretty elitist field. You needed big money to record in a big studio, and the relationship between the studios and the record companies put the vast majority of musicians who got involved in the process in hock up to their ears.

When the Band made the Brown album, they rebelled against the studio system and for the most part did it themselves--with obvious help from John Simon. Levon has his own studio now and has equipped it with the latest in digital technology. His last two albums were cut on ProTools and I don't think money had anything to do with it.

I'm not sure if your last story about the Israeli drummer was meant to demean digital. Whatever negatives you could draw from it, the singular positive is that musicians who embrace the technology have the ability to interact with other musicians from all across the world. That single fact is mind-boggling.

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Friend0

What the great engineers I know find positive in digital is the time savings. That is all. And they miss the sound of tape. Better, warmer, more realistic sound.

the idea of what is a real replication of sound. well, that's easy. The closest to real sound. digital is not that. the easiest place to hear it... drums. but it's every where else too. But most people will notice it in the drums first.

But the industry been and is going more and more to digital. But not cause of sound. Cause of money. That's all.

One of the newest and not new trends. Been happening a while. Studiopros.com I think is the website. Elad Fish. I read about this.

An enterprising Israeli drummer started adevtising like crazy for internet sent files to do pro drums track for people. Built his business to the point where he moved from Israel to Santa Monica Ca. Now he has twenty full time employess, including top notch musicisns. people send him basic tracks, they produce whole songs for them. He moved back to Israel ,has this whole operation in santa Monica.

Now digital is a way to make money. Not necessarily great music. Lots if music. some person n Peoria can write " a song" sing into a computer, send the file to studiopros.com, talk to a producer, have people he or she never met and non e of them know nothign about each other, those msuciains can record the song for that person in Peoria.

Money Honey. That's what it is.

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Herb

Subject: Gonna shut you down

Tach it up, tach it up

Buddy gonna shut you down

It happened on the strip where the road is wide

Two sharp shorts standin' side by side

Yeah, my fuel injected Stingray and a four-thirteen

We're revvin' up our engines and it sounds real mean

Tach it up, tach it up

Buddy gonna shut you down

Declinin' numbers at an even rate

At the count of one we both accelerate

My Stingray is light the slicks are startin' to spin

But the four-thirteen's really diggin' in

Gotta be cool now power shift here we go

Superstock Dodge is winding out in low

But my fuel injected Stingray's really startin' to go

To get the traction I'm ridin' the clutch

My pressure plate's burnin' my machine's too much

Pedal's to the floor hear his dual quads drink

And now the four-thirteen's lead is startin' to shrink

He's hot with ram induction but it's understood

I got a fuel injected engine sittin' under my hood

Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down

Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down

Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down

Shut it off, shut it off buddy now I shut you down

ps - Whiney: you are nowhere near as smart as you think you are, however, you ARE a Pompous Ass AND you are a DICK.

Give us some nonsense about Corvettes having 'crap brakes,' or tell us fucking great LuLu is ,,,

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Pat B

Garth was on record extolling digital long before the PT upgrades. I believe he was talking about the Fairlight system which by today's standards is archaic. He certainly dove into digital synths.

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Landmark

I became a fan after staying home one night with the flu and watching the documentary "An American Band". Shortly thereafter, I read the Steven Gaines biography about them and got hooked on the legend of the "Smile" album. At that time (1988), their records were out of print except for "Endless Summer" and "Greatest Hits". I did manage to find used copies of "Pet Sounds", "Surf's Up", and "Holland" that I played endlessly for a long time afterward. Once I got hold of their boxed set, I re-discovered all of their singles. I never cared much for the car and surfing songs but things like "The Little Girl I Once Knew" were great to discover as I vaguely recalled it but never heard it on any oldies show at the time. I did manage to see Brian Wilson with the Wondermints twice after they released "Smile" and am happy to say that they were fabulous. Brian may not sing like its 1965 but the band made up for any vocal shortcomings he may have. I also recommend the Brian Wilson bio by Peter Ames Carlin.

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Steve

I think they're the first group that Marge and I have seen in concert that any of our kids have chosen to go and see. We saw them in 77 in MTL. 32 years before Steve and Curtis.

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dlew919

I have to admit a blind spot to them. Certainly they have some brilliant songs - 'god only knows', 'good vibrations' and a dozen more. Yet for me, there is a blind spot - somethin's missing. Anyone care to enlighten me?

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Friend0

As many vivino performances as I went to over the last 23 or 24 years, several hundred easily, there are people who probably went to far more in the same period of time. A nice bonus to seeing plenty of great music is the friendships made at shows. I;ve maintained good friendships with a considerable amount of people who i met at these shows. Musical friednships too. I've worked with musicians who Imet at shows. Including Johnnie. If I didn't attend as many live shows as I have, I probably never woulda started writing songs. Things get their genesis from a lot of different places that may culminate at some point. In the beginninggn doesn't happen all at once.

You can listen to recorded music all you want.It's not the same as attending a great live performance. A exceptionally well produced album is a wonderful thing. Big Pink and Brown for example. Both recorded and live have their place. Live music, executed beutifully, with passion, is th emost interesting for me. a record that feels like a unified live performance , even if it;s not, has far greater feel to me than one that is antispetic.

Garth is a proponent of computers and their place in music. That doesn't mean that he prefers the sound of digital recording. He may. He certainly does his share of digital sessions, which is a very different thing., It's called working. I never asked him his preference, but I do know he loves his computers for musical purposes. I also know he has two of the greatest ears going. So I woud imagne he prefers analogue recorded sound. Which doesn't mean that he would or wouldn't take a staunch position one way or the other. Why should he?

Regarding how Levon records, I never said he doesn't use digital. I just know what he said about recording equipemnt when we had the conversation in still empty studio over a year and half before the first Ramble and he was talking abut leasing equipment.

Probably every studio that has analgue has digital too. (maybe albnini doesn't, pat woudl know , i wouldn't)Regardless of the owners prefernces, everyone has been forced to get digital to stay competitive. Digital will be the choice most of the time today.

I doubt Levon's opinion has changed but none of that has to mean that they do not record digitally. or that Levon even gets involved in those kind of decisions. I have no idea. You can like digital recoridng all you want pat. I still think it sucks, and I'll die thinking it sucks. That doesn't necessarily mean that I may not record digtially one day. I'll hate it, and the sound, but it could happen.

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Bashful Bill

...was also a good - & underated - guitar player. As was, & likely still is, Al Jardine.

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Friend0

I'm enjoying it , I really have gotten a very good chuckle out of it.

Thank you too much.

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Peter V

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Friend0

More important than worrying about my mathematical skills, it would do your scholarly reputation wonders if you would concentrate on thematic consistency in your arguments.

btw, i've never forgotten seeing Blondie perform.

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Pat B

If you check out the video of the making of Electric Dirt, you'll see a studio full of digital recording devices: mixers, a\d converters, a couple of racks of ProTools. You'll also see ProTools running on the main computer screen, so I guess Levon likes digital recording. The 24 track analog machine is there too, probably to record drums then dump the tracks into ProTools to use the tape compression and coloring, both of which are easily replicated by ProTools plugins.

Garth was an early proponent of digital instruments and recording, and he famously gushed over the 5.1 mix of TLW. In an 80's interview he also opined what new technology would look like and be able to do, and unsurprisingly he was pretty close.

Jeff, thanks for that link to the Garth interview, although I recall reading it when it came out over a year ago. Oddly enough, the site itself didn't publish it until 10 months after the fact.

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Peter V

I think The Beach Boys is one of the most enjoyable acts I've seen, along with The Everly Brothers. Nothing beats that new song every two and half minutes, all of them brilliant feeling. Brian Wilson had a better backing band probably, and was a better show musically, but The Beach Boys were brilliant. I reckon it was about 18 / 19 years go that I last saw them. They looked very old them, with Mike Love bent double over a walking stick. They must look extremely oldr now, and Carl's voice would be sorely missed,

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Friend0

Seen Blondie and Rick perform together several dozen times. Sail On Sailor probably never got left out.Maybe. Can't Find My Way Home probably never got left out either. Sometimes Rick would exit the stage, Blondie sometimes performed that completely solo. When they had the right backing musicians, it was a full band effort.

seen Blondie perform another few dozen times.Or more. Numerous times with his Skollie Band, with Black Tie, Gene Clark's Byrd's thing, Paul Butterfield, Gene Clark & Jon York. It was rare Sail on Sailor didn't get performed, but there were times.

First time I saw the Beach Boys, 72 or 73, at Brooklyn College, was the first time I saw Blondie peform. Yes, they did Sail On Sailor.

regarding that little levon iTunes digital download issue that got you so perturbed. In embracing digital technology and sound, but rushing to condemn Levon for his record label creatively marketing digital sales, you bit a chunk out of your own completist tuchas, digested it, regurgitated it before it made it all the way out the tunnel, and now you have to lap it up off the floor. Enjoy.

Digital sales being the increasingly popularly used form of delivery, and one digital begetting all the digital acts and media ,and embracing it, you asked for it, you got it. Plain and simple. When you are happily listening to your iPod, chewing your own BS , remember that.

That said, Levon ain't perfect. I remember well that he doesn't care for digital recording. ........And though I don'tl know how he records his own work, the studio is liste das having an MCI 2" machine.........That doesn't mean he doesn't like money. Or that he would fight his label on marketing digital bonus tracks

By The Way, talk to most great older engineers, they;ll tell you the MCI is a well made 2", easy to maintain, but one of the deader sounding 2" tape machines. Not a issue for a good mastering engineer to deal with, but Studers are readily available, and give the best sound. The old Sony and 3M machines also great soudning, but a bitch to maintain, The 3M probabyl being the worst. My first hair raising, life shortening recording experience was with a non maintained 3M Machine. Fucking engineer lied to me. I told him a pre requisite of recording with him was that he have the machine calibrated first. He ha d a few weeks t accomplish that. And He said he had it done. But didn't. Also had a busted tape counter when we recorded.

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Peter V

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Friend0

Steve, Did the Beach Boys sing any Band songs?

Sorry, confusing your posts and Peter's posts.

Hard to keep up with Peter.

I recall when I used to rail against digital music, digital recording, Peter, Pat, and Brien took the diehard positions that digital recordign sounded just as good as analogue, and that it wasn't so much the recording process or media as it was the performance that mattered to sound of a recording.

My argument was always very other, and my argument also encompassed that there wasn't one wihtout the other. and that a whole industry, and also whole creative process, & socio economic artistic industry community suffered too many insurmountable blows because of digital this and that.
n When I read some of Peter's remarks that tied Levon allowing welk/verve to do that deal wtih iTunes( as if he could prevent it and not give up soemthing else) to the destruction of the retail market for vinyl and discs, it certianly gave me a chuckle how Peter reversed his psosition. I guess that is a good exampkle of things going full circle in reverse and inside out when it suits ya.

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Steve

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Peter V

There’s a little story due somewhere on The Band members comparatively recent fascination with Grateful Dead songs; Rick Danko and Ripple, Garth Hudson with Dark Star and Scarlet Begonias and now Levon with Tennessee Jed. Three of the four come from the “Band-influenced” aspect of The Grateful Dead, so it’s kind of a boomerang effect. Maybe it all goes back to Festival Express. Robbie had been disparaging about West Coast bands in the Rolling Stone interview earlier. There are all sorts of circular events like this, such as Brian Wilson ending up joining more or less a Beach Boys Tribute Band as his new backing group.

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dlew919

I don't know that 'Dirt Farmer' sounds much like the Band. (that's not a bad thing, btw - Levon Helm is an individual separate, though a mighy part of, the Band). I'd love to have heard Richard sing 'Wide river to Cross', but I think Levon's take on it is probably definitive. (I'd certainly put it on a Levon Greates Hits - plus 'False Hearted Lover Blues).

I can't yet comment on Electric Dirt (but Tennesee Jed, as heard on Letreman, had some Band-ish qualities)

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Dunc

Subject: Electric Dirt

As I said I enjoyed Electric Dirt. I'm now letting it bed in. I think the musicianship is good - drumming, guitar playing, harmony vocals, horn playing (especially on Kingfish), fiddles and mandolin and one of the great voices of popular music.

There are several highlights for me Levon's voice dueting with the violin at the beginning of Happy Traum's 'Golden Bird'. The voice on this haunting song is vulnerable and beautiful.

I like the melody on Growin' Trade', the singing on 'When I Go Away' and the guitar playing on 'Move Along Train'.

I like 'Stuff You Gotta Watch' because of the accordion playing, the drumming and the mandolin. No guitar on the blues track.

There are a lot of musical highlights.

I also feel it's been carried out with enthusiasm, conviction and most important to me integrity.

In case I'm accused of being sycophantic, I don't think that about parts of 'High on the Hog'.

On choice of songs I get the feeling that Mark Knopfler got on 'Slow Train Coming' and I'm not a religious person.

I'm really enjoying it and I hope you'll enjoy it too.

Looking forward to the third album, Levon. How about 'Dirt Tracks'? Get it?

So there's a review,but I'll concede it's maybe a review by a fan with a typewriter. But then that's why we're all here. Although sometimes you wonder?

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Norbert

Subject: Carpenter, Mary Chapin

took a walk in the rain one day on the wrong side of the tracks

I stood on the rails till I saw that train

Just to see how my heart would react

Now some people say that you shouldn't tempt fate

And for them I would not disagree

But I never learned nothing from playing it safe

I say fate should not tempt me

I take my chances, I don't mind working without a net I take my chances, I take my chances every chance I get

I sat alone in the dark one night, tuning in by remote

I found a preacher who spoke of the light but there was brimstone in his throat

He'd show me the way according to him in return for my personal check

I flipped my channel back to CNN and I lit another cigarette

I take my chances, forgiveness doesn't come with a debt I take my chances, I take my chances every chance I get

I've crossed lines of words and wire and both have cut me deep

I've been frozen out and I've been on fire and the tears are mine to weep

Now I can cry until I laugh and laugh until I cry

So cut the deck right in half, I'll play from either side

I take my chances, I pay my dollar and I place my bet

I take my chances, I take my chances every chance I get

I take my chances, I don't cling to remorse or regret

I take my chances, I take my chances every chance I get I take my chances

I take my chances

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Peter V

The only lyric which stands up as of OQ Band standard is Kingfish, with Tennessee Jed bubbling under (like Get Up Jake), oh, and White Dove and Golden Bird, but they're a totally different sort of thing. I do find the number of songs that would fit in the Christian Rock section because of lyrics mildly unsettling.

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Peter V

I hate it when people choose unobtainable stuff in such lists, but I’ve played Lean On Me from Staying Together OST a lot, and all the Jesse James stuff Levon appears on is great.

Secret To A Long Life (from Arkansas Traveler) where he duets with Michelle Shocked? Little John of God with Los Lobos from The Neighborhood?

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Friend0

Subject: Yes they do, See The Link

Holy smokes!

Tis cause for celebration.

Me, I ain't got Dirt yet, haven't been near a record store, and dats how I does it. But I have heard Levon doing When I Go Away. WFUV is playing it very frequently. It gets rolling real good, it does, and I enjoy it. Seems every time it's been on while i'm in the car, something happens to interfere with the song, but the spirit has moved me. And yes, Garth and Maud do perform the song.

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Bobby Jones

All this talk about "American Son" had me go back and re-listen to his output (minus the Band) up to "Dirt Farmer". I"d rank them in this order: American Son, Dirt Farmer, RCO All-stars, Levon Helm (1982), Levon Helm (1978) Levon & The Crowmatix.

FWIW - Butch told me that Levon received no compensation for the "The Ties that Bind" CD, so I personally think Levon should release his own "Greatest Hits Cd". So let's have at it kids, "What would you put on your Levon Helm Greatest Hits CD"?

Here's mine:

(1st CD) Take Me to the River, Standing on a Mountain Top, Blues So Bad, Milk Cow Boogie, Watermelon Time in Georgia, Hurricane, China Girl, Sweet Peach Georgia Wine, Rock Salt & Nails(w/John Martyn), Lucrecia, Get out your Big Roll Daddy, Willie and the Hand Jive, Summertime Blues, /n(2nd CD) Quantrill's Guerillas, Old Clay County(w/Charlie Daniels), The Death of Me(w/ Johnny Cash), One More Shot(w/Emmy Lou Harris & Johnny Cash), When I get my Rewards (w/Nitty Gritty Dirt Band), A Train Robbery, Poor Old Dirt Farmer, The Mountain, The girl I Left Behind, Wide River to Cross.

This is my idea of what a true "Levon Helm Greatest Hits CD" would look like, now it's your turn. (Have at it kids, I want to see what your list would look like)

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Ari

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Amanda

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bob w.

Subject: The Open

NB, we're rooting for Tom Watson here. His brother Ridge runs the beautiful Joullian Vineyards in Carmel Valley, California. My wife Maureen and Ridge's wife D'tim were co-workers in Monterey for nearly twenty years. Our visits out to their vineyard were very special times. They are great people who live on an absolutely magical property. We also had the great pleasure of meeting Tom and he is every bit the gentleman you always see during the broadcasts. A victory on Sunday at Turnberry will make for a great story. I know there are countless friends and fans wishing him the best.

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Northern Boy

Peter: Thanks. And I like the idea of Levon distributing "American Son" through his website. Could be a lot of legal wrangles and red tape to do it I suppose, but maybe if enough of us bug him over at LHS, who knows. We're also overdue for Levon to release a Midnight Ramble Volume 3, in my estimation. I really liked Volume 2, which strangely no one ever mentions here. (It doesn't get any better than Levon and the gals on "I Wanna Know"). I didn't bother with # 1, and not just because Levon doesn't sing on it. The song samples didn't grab me much. While on the LHS topic, I wish Tony had come back to counter the points you raised regarding bonus tracks. I thought they were are well-taken, (tho calling Levon you know what was maybe a little OTT). I remember Tony quite well from the Ramble I attended. From above and behind Levon up in the recording studio, I descended the stairs during "Ophelia" I think it was, and parked myself about ten feet from Levon. After about 30 secs. he toldly me nicely I'd have to vacate the stairs due to fire regulations, (which I noticed somehow didn't keep him from hanging there all night). However, he was nice enough about it and had allowed me my brief moment of uber-proximity to Levon. NB

Peter or anybody, which would you consider closer to being "a Band album" - "American Son" or "Eclectic Dirt" ?

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Steve

NB, so let me see, this golf tournament is being won by a guy with an artificial hip who's had one less stroke that the other competitors. Sounds unfair doesn't it. Is that what they mean by a handicap in golf? Example: A guy who has had 3 strokes is a three handicap. Is a stroke a requirement to be eligible for this "sport"? If it is I'd suggest a way to get healthier, younger " athletes" into the "action". Maybe if you're too healthy to have suffered an "eligibility stroke" you could still play if you agree to be tasered each time you're about to tee off. Sounds fair to me.I have other suggestions that would raise the excitement above the level of paint drying but it's back to the garden now for me.

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Peter V

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Peter V

Just checked amazon.co.uk. It's "currently unavailable," Edsel releases are a bit like that. They do a run of copies, then drop it. They've put the 1977 Rick Danko out several times. Once it's unavailable you're into Reseller prices, and amazon.co.uk has none. If there's interest, they'll put it out again. Maybe Levon should from his site. It's a very good album. When it came out, i went up to Virgin in London to get an import copy the first day.

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Norbert

Subject: David P

David P, your knowledge is one of the reasons people look into this GB and what makes this GB great, I learned a lot from you, start googling, reading and listening after reading your posts. I.m.o. there is no retirement but for the eternal one, anyway know we ain't heavy.

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Young Hippie

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JQ

Charlie Y - I believe this word works for both The Band & Walter Cronkite; it's thereby a plausible connection.

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Northern Boy

Sorry to keep you hanging Steve. I of course had to watch the British Open on the telly this morning. Ya, no high-drama there, just Tom Watson (2 months shy of 60, complete with articial hip) turning back the hands of time and fending off all the best players in the world and now heading into the fourth and final round with a one stroke lead. If Watson wins it'll be his sixth British Open and he'll be the oldest player to ever win a major, and by a whopping eleven year margin ! And as great as Tiger Woods is, he's still probably not going to catch Watson, what with Tiger having missed the cut and all. Yep, nuthin' surprising ever happens in that sport, that's for sure.

I'm glad that G on Q did, as you report, promise to play The Band's "Whispering Pines" on the interview day or at least the following day, as was the case. NG missed that portion, but she did inform me that the remark Colin Linden made about himself having both a Levon half to his brain and a Danko half, was made on Holger Peterson's show. I'm going to have to get into these musical radio programmes more as I'm missing some good stuff. I haven't even tracked down Jim Byrnes' CBC radio show yet, I'm sorry to admit. Speaking of "programmes", I noticed you spelled that word the American way this morning. Steve, you're such an incorrigible suck-up !

No, our Amazon shipments are usually prompt, so I don't think we can blame Canada Post for the delay THIS TIME. Besides, don't get me started on Canada Post. This was back in the seventies mind you, but before he retired my dad ended up the number two man in Canada Post (Toronto) and started up Canada Post's whole marketing branch. You know, all those specialty items they're trying to flog at you that are just in your way when you go in to buy yourself a single stamp, or possibly less. Go into any Post Office anywhere in Canada and it's the same story, so it's now truly become a national problem. Mind you, I guess indirectly though, my dad's responsible for all those stamps out now that commemorate Canadian musicians. But unless they someday put The Band or its individual members on a stamp, who really cares ? As it stands now, the thought of licking the backside of Anne Murray or Paul Anka is kinda nauseating. (There's no Celine stamp, I hope). But on the other hand, if you happen to hate Pop Tarts, don't even think of laying that one on my doorstep as it wasn't my father's doing at all; my father-in-law invented those puppies. I've been interested in Levon's "American Son" for some time now, upon the recommendation of people here. Why do I see it listed at Amazon for freakin' $95 ? Peter would know, I'm sure. Meanwhile, some pimply-faced kid at Amazon is up on some ladder pullin his hair out looking for my Norm Jones Cd among all the Norah and Tom Jones Cd's. In hindsight, I should've left "The Wait" off that Amazon order and got it straight from the artist. That'll teach me to try and save a few bucks ! Otherwise, I'd be listening to "Eclectic Dirt" and the new Jim Byrnes Cd by now ! Sometimes I sure know how to take the savant out of "idiot savant", don't I ? NB

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Norbert

Subject: Garth's sax solos & other great horn sections

Just came across a Dutch musician's site with his top 10 of great horn sections. Sorry it's in Dutch, but you can still make out the songs. About Garth's sax solo in the WS Walcott Medicine he comments: Magic how Garth and the horn section play together.

1. WS Walcott Medicine Show - The Band. Arrangement door Allen Toussaint, sax solo door Garth Hudson. Magisch hoe de blazersectie en Garth samen spelen.

2. Here's The Good News - Paul Weller. Blazers volgens mij Benjamin Herman en zijn vrindjes? Heerlijk zomers.

3. I'm Only Dreaming - The Small Faces. Steve Marriott op trompet. Vals, totaal onpassend, maar zo mooi!

4. Springfield Road (live) - Supersub. Arrangement van Paul Willemsen. Het origineel is al mooi, maar de blazers maken het tot een klassieker.

5. Tomcat - Muddy Waters. Briljant! Luister. Hoe de blazer het reffrein aankondigt en aan het begin van ieder refrein weer even op adem moet komen

6. It Makes No Difference (live) - The Band. Wederom Garth Hudson op sax die duelleerst met de gitaar van Robbie Robertson, na de mooiste zangpartij van Rick Danko ever.

7. Still Believe (live) - Herman Brood & His Wild Romance. Bertus Borgers o sax. Hij schreef het nummer ook, maar dan in driekwartsmaat. herman maakte er per ongeluk een vierkwartsmaat van en de koortjes en sax van Bertus maken het af!

8. Stagefright (live) - The Band. Het derde live The Band nummertje. Nu een arrangement van Tom Malone, die ook in de Blues Brothers Band blies. Wederom een geweldig emotionele zangpartij van Rick Danko, dan de maffe orgels van Garth Hudson en dan de blazers na de orgelsolo. Magisch en kippenveltrekkend. Als dat laatste een woord is.

9. 5.15 - The Who. Blazers-arrangementen van bassist John Entwistle. Naast officieel 'Beste Bassist Ever' was hij ook niet de minste op diverse blaasinstrumenten en hij schreef én blies alle blaaspartijen op The Who albums!

10. Heart To Hang On To - Pete Townshend en Ronnie 'Plonk' Lane. Mooi nummer van Pete, mooi gezongen door Pete en Plonk. En wederom alles geblazen door John Alec Entwistle.

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Peter V

David, any ideas? That recording session should be right up your street (he said, vaguely offering a slightly tatty olive branch …)

Charlie, which EDITION of The Rolling Stone Album Guide is 2.5 stars? They vary a fair bit. I got the first three then stopped … you also have to check the assessor's initials at the bottom of the review. Some are better than others.

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Steve

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Charlie Y

Subject: David P., Walter Cronkite...and Stars

I hope David hasn't really "retired," either. Like when Walter Crokite did so back in 1981, it would be far too early--and I sincerely hope David lives to at least the age of 92 with vinyl spinning as he goes.

Anyway, I was trying to come up with a Cronkite connection to The Band, but the only one I could come up with is the cliche that we'll never see another entity like either again--and both were class acts to the end.

As for the ROLLING STONE RECORD GUIDE, I rate it two and a half stars.

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Lil

David P: I hope you know you're always welcome and appreciated at BFB.

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Peter V

The Ties That Bind is a compilation covering a wide range including Band stuff. American Son is the third solo album. The only track from it on The Ties That Bind is "Watermelon Time in Georgia", but ones to test on iTunes are Violet Eyes, Sweet Peach Georgia wine and China Girl.

It has a strong sense of style (rolling on from doing Coal Miners Daughter), strong songs by decent songwriters with a country flavour, rather than 12 bar R&B workouts, immaculate backing from the likes of Fred Carter Jnr, Hargus "Pig" Robbins, Henry Strelecki, Buddy Emmons, and others. It also had a strong conceptsleeve - like Dirt Farmer it has a tractor in the fields, as well as other items like a Hawk, a coal miner, a festival, Big Pink. A few years back one original vinyl copy went at auction for $400. Fortunately it's on an Edsel CD now. The high price was when copies were unobtainable.

In the end, I think it has the strongest songs and best backing of the four early solo albums.

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Joan

Please don't disappear. Your encyclopedic knowledge of music both amazes me and keeps me hanging around this place.

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Steve

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Peter V

As Samuel Johnson said, “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.” Boswell added that Johnson was NOT attacking patriotism as such, but was attacking the wrapping yourself in the flag to avoid criticism sort of chest-beating. He said that, significantly, in 1775.

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Steve

NB, your postal service out there seems to be stuck in the Dirt Farmer era. Maybe once you get some roads built the postal service can retire the ponies and move up to them newfangled auto-mobiles or horseless carriages as you probably would know them.

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Mike

Subject: Happy b'day to both Sebastian & Jon Taplin today.

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dlew919

Hey Northern Boy! Hey JTull! Hey Lil! Now with the pleasantries out of the way...

What just happened? David P.? Are you here? Peter? Everything ok? Steve? Bob?

I can't think of anyone whose posts I don't value in some way - some, of course, probably more than others - let me acknowledge the friends I've made: Joan - please come - bring dunc with you! I'm hoping to meet Norm later in the year but I suspect distance will be a factor - Norm - Murrarie is in Brisbane - I'm about 1800 kms south of Brissie (or Brisvegas, as its known)

I thought Peter's review was really good, and really thought provoking: thanks for doing it - I still can't wait to hear the album, but a 4 star is still great, as Peter acknowledged.

Anyway, let's all take a deep breath, enjoy Serenity's postings, talk about the whole world, keeping our eyes on the Band, and get back to what we do best.

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Steve

NB, actually, Jian did say during the interview with Jason Schneider that they would try to play Whispering Pines during that program and if not then they'd play it the next day. Bill, one of the interesting things mentioned during the interview was that Col Tom and Hank Snow had made a deal to manage Elvis's career but that The Colonel swindled Hank out of the business. The interview was far too short and I'm going to purchase the book as well.

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Serenity

Thought you baseball fans may remember this one.

1941: After hitting in a record 56 Consecutive games, Joe DiMaggio is Held hitless by the Cleveland Indians. The next day, he begins another Hitting streak of 16 games.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Serenity

POETRY

I don't wanna do the dishes

I don't wanna do the wash

I sprinkled clothes a week ago

And now my iron is lost!

I don't wanna rattle pots

I don't wanna rattle pans

I see the mail light flashin

I wanna chat with friends!

Oh, the table needs some dusting

and the floor could sure be mopped

But I know if I get started

there'll be no place to stop.

The closets are so full

things are falling off the shelves

I wish for cleaning fairies

and magic little elves.

They could sprinkle fairy dust

and twitch their little nose

The windows would be sparkling

I would have no dirty clothes.

Oh, I know that I'm just dreamin

My head is in the sky

I must cook that meat that's graying

and bake that apple pie.

The hubby needs a bath

the dog needs attention

Oh... the other way around I mean

my brain is in suspension

I am runnin round in circles

I am getting nothing done,

I keep thinking of my web

I am missing all the fun!

Well, I know I'm not addicted

Though I hear that all the time

But I quess this stuff can wait on me

Cause today I'll be ON LINE!!!

Hope it worked?

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Serenity

Legendary CBS anchor Walter Cronkite dies at 92 (AP) FILE - In this photo taken on Sept. 24, 2007, former news anchor Walter Cronkite arrives at the Metropolitan Opera 2007-08 season opening gala. Famed CBS News anchor Walter Cronkite, known as the 'most trusted man in America' has died, Friday, July 17, 2009. He was 92.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

FRIDAY July 17th

Petula Clark makes her TV debut (on England's "Cabaret" show at the age of 13), 1946

Annette Funicello and the Mouseketeers first appear on TV (an ABC special celebrating the opening of Disneyland), 1955

The Beatles' "Yellow Submarine" film premieres in London, 1968

No one is hurt as a bomb explodes under a Rolling Stones concert equipment truck in Montreal, 1972

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Tommy James and the Shondells:

The band initially formed in 1959 as Tom and the Tornadoes, with the then only 12-year-old Tommy James as lead singer. In 1963, he re-named the band The Shondells after one of James' idols, guitarist Troy Shondell. The same year, they recorded the Jeff Barry/Ellie Greenwich Song, "Hanky Panky" (originally a B-side by The Raindrops). James' version sold respectably in Michigan, Indiana and Illinois, but the record label, Snap Records, had no national distribution. The single failed to chart, and the Shondells disbanded.

Until next time Take care and God Bless xoxoxo

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Northern Boy

Bill M. : Northern Girl caught most of the Jason Schneider interview and has been perusing the book on Amazon. She noted to a very-busy-and-tired-from-endlessly-house-painting-despite-allegedly-being-on-his-holidays Northern Boy, that the song "Whispering Pines" got played the next day on the programme. Presumably, some calls were made by more than a few viewers, citing the obvious oversight of not playing it the previous day when the author of the "Whispering Pines" had been the guest. At least that's how my paint-fume infested brain understands it. NB.

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Northern Boy

From tugboats to Turnberry to Tintern Abbey, for me at least, the digressions here are one of the appealing aspects of the place. With the possible exception of politics, digressions would never drive me out of here; it's some of The (other) Stuff You Gotta Watch. My copy of "Eclectic Dirt" has not arrived yet so for now I'll not comment much, though I've heard it in its entirety three or four times on Amazon (The Electric Dirt Lisitening Party). Based on that, I might quibble with Peter over a song or two but his assessment seems pretty much on the mark. The weakest songs on "Dirt Farmer" strike me as stronger than the weakest ones on "Eclectic Dirt". But perhaps they'll grow on me. I find it sometimes takes longer to warm up to the slower tunes. Still, a very worthwhile purchase. NB

PS. Dlewsional: If as you say, your assumptions are often wrong, have you considered that maybe this particular assumption you have about all your other assumptions could be wrong too? At the risk of sounding redundant, I think you're just being dlewsional about the whole thing. I doubt if a single person here can recall you ever having assumed anything of a dubious nature - for instance, "France is really just West Virginia without the possums". So I say, assume away dlew !

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Ray

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David P., Retired

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Young Hippie

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bob w.

Have a great weekend.

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BONK

Subject: PETER V

HAHAHAHA! Peter. That comment about One flew over the Cuckoos Nest was Hilarious. Just what some of us needed! Would you care to fill in the blanks? HaHa

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JTull Fan

Steve, it took you 20 years to push out 80% of the English speaking population? 4 years to go!

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Peter V

Then I moved on to the complete works of Charles Dickens. Little Nell, the professional victim, was a quick one too, as was the pious hand-wringing Uriah Heep. As for the pompous hypocrite, Dickens really leaves you spoiled for choice, but I will get there.

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Steve

Peter, I kinda recognized the possee forming a long time ago. Bob, who shall remain nameless, tried to draft me for the team back a few years ago but since I made my preference for remaining a free agent known it's been all down hill.

Peter, about 80% of the English speaking population has left Quebec in the last 20 years and I'm still here.

Joan there was nothing to get feel surprised about regarding my post about politicians and civil servants.

I was just interested in how the term," serving your country", has been appropriated by the military or at least come to mean only the military, in the US. It's not used exclusively or maybe not at all when referring to the Canadian military. Actually, I don't think it is used here at all in that way or at least I'm not aware of it being used that way here..

Here it is used when talking about politicians and civil servants at least that's where I'm familiar with it from. It didn't foresee the need for it to be neutralized but maybe it's an American sensitivity I'm not aware of.

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Joan

Thanks. :)

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westcoaster

Subject: I Believe in Music

For Joan:

I could just sit around makin music, all day long..

Long as I'm makin' music I cain't do nobody no wrong.

Who knows maybe someday, I'll come up with a song...

Make people want to quit fussin' and fightin'....

Just long enough to get a long........ooohh!

I believe in music.......I believe in love!

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JOE VLAURUS

Subject: SLATE DUMP MUSIC AND ART COMPETITION

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Zzzz

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Dunc

Subject: On a lighter note, a musical post

Thanks everybody. I'm racing off to that great British institution tonight - the pub quiz. I've got to say this, it takes place at the local golf club because it's Scotland. Normally my team does well and I add to the lead in the music round, identifying riffs and choruses from songs played by long forgotten bands like the Small Faces, Cream, Ivy League, John Martyn. You don't get Band questions, Elvis is the American king in Glasgow.

Last two months there has been a problem. There is a new quiz master. Looks like the young Elvis Costello. He asks questions related to Paolo Nuttini, the Arctic Monkeys, the View etc. We scored 4 out of 24 in music last two months. One of my friends last month said 'Thought you knew music, Dunc?' Aagh pressure.

On a serious note I would like any of you regular posters (maybe one day Joan, but you'd have to play in the girls' team) to come to the quiz. Will have to race!

Everybody have a nice weekend and remember this is our hobby.

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David P.

48 soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan this month, including 23 Americans (two from Georgia), 16 Britains (the latest today), and 5 Canadians (including one yesterday). You can blame politicians or civil servants if you want, but I fail to see where such comments are even "mildly humourous" or remotely appropriate here. I'm sorry for interrupting the normal dialogue here, but those sad numbers, not 4 or 5 stars, were on my mind yesterday when I wrote my initial post.

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Joan

I am a very "political" person, but I stay away from it here. That is Jan's request. So be it!

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Joan

First off, I posted my comment to bob w, and added my genuine feeling about our young men and women. Bob's son is going some place I would never want to be and Lars' daughter Sarah is putting herself in another kind of danger. Voluntarily!! I was a bit surprised by Steve's comment, but I hoped I neutralized it by paraphrasing Dylan. I guess not.

David, thank you for your defense.

Dunc, I have never found you to be anything but a gentleman and a gentle man.

Peter, I'm not sure what triggered your reaction,but I do feel it was OTT. Although I have never met any of my "cyber friends", I do feel they ARE friends. I'm sure if I was in Scotland or Australia I would look up Dunc or Dlew for a drink or coffee. My point being, I do not feel "social remarks" are out of place. they are just part of the daily give and take.

I grant you I am not as astute as some posters are That is why I hang around here. I learn a lot.

As far as musical taste, we are all entitled to an opinion We all see things in a different way. If someone doesn't like Electric Dirt, they are entitled to that opinion Anyone who wants to differ, needs to be civil.

As I have quoted before, from my niece Eloise age 2 years 5 months, "Be Nice"

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bob w.

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Kevin J

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JTull Fan

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Peter V

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Lars

Subject: Bob Dylan Tour

TODD- My cousin was at the New Britain Stadium (Ct.) on July 15th to see the Nelson / Mellancamp / Dylan tour performance. He agreed with you that Dylan put on a good show. He sent me a setlist:

1. Rainy Day Women #12 & 35 (Bob on guitar)
2. Stuck Inside A Mobile....(Bob on guitar)
3. The Levee's Gonna Break (Bob on keyboards for the rest of the show)
4. Tryin' to Get to Heaven
5. High Water (For Charley Patton)
6. I feel A Change Comin' On
7. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum
8. When the Deal Goes Down
9. Highway 61 Revisited
10. Ballad of a Thin Man
11. Thunder On the Mountain

ENCORE

12. Like A Rolling Stone
13. Jolene
14. All Along the Watchtower

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Charlie Y

Subject: Dylan & Kooper

Todd: I'm so happy to hear you say you enjoyed Dylan. I was with you in thinking I'd finished going to see him, but my daughter turns 25 in a couple of weeks (the day after I turn 56) and she asked me to take her to one of the Dylan-Nelson-Mellencamp shows. One reason was because she loves the opening act for Dylan's minor league ballpark tour--The Wiyos--as she's seen Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp at Farm Aid with me before. But I think she also wants to see Mr. Dylan at least once.

Al Kooper does an interesting remake of Dylan's "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry" on his latest CD, "White Chocolate." That song has become a concert staple in recent years among people ranging from Bruce Hornsby to Levon Helm, so it is interesting to hear a guy who goes all the way back to those mid-60's sessions with Dylan release his take on the tune. The CD is available from Al Kooper's site and all copies are signed by Mr. Kooper at this point.

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Bill M

Steve: I forgot to listen to Jason Schneider being interviewed on Q about his Band-relevant book "Whispering Pines". Did you? If so, anything worth sharing here?

By the way, has anyone else bothered to buy or borrow the book?

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Bill M

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Lil

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Lil

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David P.

"That's just my opinion and maybe others enjoy that crap, but I fail to see its relevance here."

I'm not trying to run anyone out of here, rather, I'm just stating my opinion on the subject.

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Peter V

Todd, I’m glad to see your post as someone who will make a rational argument in favour of music. I am also delighted with my copy of Electric Dirt. Four star albums are few and far between. If I had a friend whose birthday was due, I’d certainly buy another copy and feel confident it would be a welcome gift. However, I would be interested to read how you argue it as the Brown Album to Dirt Farmer’s Big Pink (to me both Band albums were five star, as was Stage Fright, but most critics thought the Brown Album an improvement). I sent Jan my full review, but he’s on vacation.

First off, Electric Dirt lacks the unity of feel of Dirt Farmer. It is “Eclectic Dirt” as someone posted, and I think that’s a minus.

On lyrics, the only songs even approaching the standard of the first two Band albums are Randy Newman’s Kingfish, and Robert Hunter’s Tennessee Jed (and I’d put the latter more at Get Up Jake level and that ended up as an outtake). Golden Bird and White Dove (the two best tracks) are both achingly beautiful, but fit in a traditional category (like Little Birdies or Ain’t No More Cane). When I Go Away is a great song, but the lyric isn’t fantastic. The rest are not in the same league. Growing Trade is like Caves of Jericho, a conscious attempt to emulate the early Band without a lyricist of the ability of Robbie Robertson, and the tune sounds as if it’s following the words, not integral to them. Three tracks (or more) would fit easily in the Christian Rock section.

On music there are at two tracks too dull to be worthy of consideration on the first three Band albums. Move Along Train would have sat well on early Delaney & Bonnie and would be good live. Shame about the lack of melody or originality. You Can’t Lose What You Ain’t Never Had is plain boring in spite of being well-executed. Two turkeys do not a five star album make. Conversely, the radical remake of Stuff You gotta Watch works extremly well and deserves its place.

If it’s Big Pink or the Brown album, it’s those albums with the rejects included. I heartily recommend buying it, but it’s not as good as Dirt Farmer for me.

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JTull Fan

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Peter V

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Steve

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Todd

Subject: On The Run

I have some things to say, but am jammed up for time at the moment. I was on vacation last week, and scrambling to get my work done this week, and I feel like I’m a week behind. That’s always the rub with vacation….the work doesn’t get done when you’re busy playing in the sand at the beach.

A couple of quick points, which I hope to elaborate on in the near future: “Electric Dirt” is to “Dirt Farmer” as “The Band (Brown Album)” is to “Music From Big Pink”.

I purchased the CD of “Electric Dirt” through the pre-order sale on Levon’s site and the digital download from iTunes to get the bonus tracks. Last week I purchased another CD of “Electric Dirt” from Barnes & Noble to give to my father as a birthday gift. I have no regrets about any of the purchases. Who would have thought ten years ago, that we’d even have the opportunity for new releases from Levon. My plan is to enjoy and savor the moment. I will discuss more in a few days.

I saw Bob Dylan in concert the other night and enjoyed it more than any of the previous times that I’ve seen him. Thanks to Dunc for his favorable review earlier this year for pushing me to get tickets. I had thought that I was done with Dylan live, but I was pleasantly surprised with the show. I also finally picked up Tell Tale Signs, and am enjoying a lot of that much more than I expected that I would.

Gotta run for now and get some work done….will try to check back fairly soon.

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Steve

Dunc, do you really see this as a "Levon" site? Maybe you're speaking of what some see as jh's preference but as far as posters go every member appears to have their own choir singing their praises and since jh posts so rarely he hardly tips the balance one way or the other.

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David P.

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Norbert

Don't know what happened (have to work, will pick up later perhaps), but know Dunc, you can't please them all, there is always someone pissed. Anyway, I always enjoy your posts and I know most of us do.

Weekend! have to built a glass house-base for a few hours in the garden and then work on my espresso's learning curve.

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Lil

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Brien Sz

I also agree that well communicated criticism is a good thing and that we should never just drink the cool-aid. I find it funny that when well thought out and communicated criticism is derided it is generally done in a low brow way precisely the opposite of the intent. Well expressed discourse, for me anyway, is a pleasure to read whether in favor of the point or not.

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Dunc

Was working today or would have responded earlier. I don't think the post was about golf. It's my stomping ground that's in the news. Bob was remarking on that. (However, Bob, your post will be deleted.)

What is relevant in a Band GB? I think the common strand is the Band, but we talk about other things. I enjoy reading about writers, life in other parts of the world, farming, new to me music, the American Civil War, Coleman Balls, linguistics, travelling to Germany etc.

If this guestbook is a community, and I hope it is, then I genuinely empathise with a member of the community, whose son has to go to a dangerous place. Especially in a week when I have been thinking about eighteen year olds who will now never get to have the life I have been lucky to have.

I remember when a poster told us about his illness and the response. I hope he is okay.

Up until I asked Sebastian a question and was accused of crawling (I'll not lose sleep over it), I have only been met by kindness on the GB. I have hundreds of questions for Sebastian. I don't know about another GB, but to Johnny come latelys like myself I know that there was a split and people don't get on. I think also Jan's site and the GB tilts towards Levon, but I've had a lot from the site. I appreciate and benefit from the work that has gone into the site and hopefully have acknowledged this many times.

I was never going to write a post like this. I don't know if it reads as I want to say it. Sorry if I've bored people.

I like all the Band,still use Jan's site and enjoy most of the posts.

I'm away out to the garden. Am I allowed to say this?

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Norbert

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Norbert

Subject: coffee

Buying an Italian espresso machine last week (Elektra MC a Leva), I came across "The perfect espresso" YouTube (although I'm not that far yet).

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Norbert

Subject: coffee

Buying an Italian espresso machine last week (Elektra MC a Leva), I came across "The perfect espresso" YouTube (although I'm not that far yet).

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Steve

Peter, I'm sure Bob was only watching golf for the lovely scenery at Turnberry. Nobody really watches the golfing, do they? My mother, who spends lots of time volunteering with the elderly in a retirement home near her house says she has to turn off the TV in the common room if golf is on because it just saps the life right out of the residents. She brings them back to life by playing the piano and singing songs from their younger days .

Peter, why don't you give us an Electric Dirt review. Like Dlew I haven't picked up a copy yet but am interested in reading your review.

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bob w.

PS - Go fuck yourself.

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dlew919

Perhaps we've all been a little more sensitive to criticism as we see people actually connected to The Band join in: even though this is relatively anonymous, it's still harder to be 'critical' about people when we know that anyone can see it. Now there's no shame in a 4 star album: because I won't hear it for a bit, I'm interested to hear why Peter thinks its not quite as good as 'Dirt Farmer' - adn I can even listen to Peter's opinion (and maybe agree with it) without discounting Pat's opinion that it is a natural progression of 'Dirt Farmer' (I remember that Pat said something along the lines of Dirt Farmer was with a horse, and Electric Dirt was with a tractor... I loved the imagery, in any case...)

I think criticism (discussing the various merits and demerits of work in a reasonable way) is necessary. And I think you can say things which are harsh, as long as they're not personal: 'Levon's new album sucks and he is an idiot' is not acceptable (nor true). 'I didn't care for Levon doing a Grateful Dead song, becuase I didn't think it suited his voice' is, provided that can be sustained through argument. (I really don't know if it can - haven't heard the album.) But I don't think true criticism hurts in the long term (though as one who occasionally performs in public, criticism stings, even when well intentioned... but I take on the reasonable, true stuff, and try and ignore the rest (take what you need and leave the rest...) /n Along with Peter, is there anyone who thought that Electric Dirt wasn't as good as Dirt Farmer?

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Rod

I wonder what else journalists have missed over the years. I guess Robbie's name was legally changed.

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Peter V

So we recycle platitudes and inanities. I thought the “cheerleaders” had started their own website for that, but seemingly we’re all now supposed to be the town boosters for the memory of The Band rather than interested listeners to the music and anything new. Watching golf on television as a topic for discussion is about as low as it can go. Myself I spent yesterday watching paint dry. You may be interested to know that as far as I can ascertain, magnolia and brillant white vinyl silk paint dry at very close to the same speed. For a moment I thought the magnolia was just ahead, but then it had been applied a little earlier, and I hadn’t calibrated my chronometer.

Then a mildly humorous comment on civil servants and politicians gets a full blast of moral outrage and retribution. This place used to be full of humour (and indeed bile and backbiting) but it was at least interesting, we hadn’t got down to sending each other daily lobotomized prayers and hugs. Off to read "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest".

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Peter V

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Sebastian

My dad's birth name is Jaime Royal Klegerman. When his mother remarried after the death of his father (I believe my dad was 2 when his father died) he and his mother took on the name Robertson. Robbie was a shortened version of Robertson which was given to him in middle school. Jim Robertson raised my dad and was the only father he knew.

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David P.

Steve: I found your earlier post today not only uncalled for, but offensive as well. Brave men and woman are making the ultimate sacrifice for their country. I would suggest you find a more appropriate forum for your BS, as I'm getting tired of scrolling through such nonsense. That's just my opinion and maybe others enjoy that crap, but I fail to see its relevence here.

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Steve

Joan, I believe the actual quote is" you gotta serve somebody", but I think your way of wording the sentiment is at least as clear as His Bobness's. Knowing Bob's fondness for borrowing without attribution, maybe he was paraphrasing you.

McBrain-Dead Talking. I'm trying this out as the title for McCain's autobiography should he ever get around to it. Did he actually say today," This gov't( Obama's) has run up the largest deficit by any gov't of this country in peacetime, ever". I'm sure that's what I heard him say but it's so fucked up I need confirmation on it. Anyone else hear that?

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Joan

We've all gotta serve someone.

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Bill M

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BONK

Yes Serenity. I had forgotten that. Thank-you.

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Serenity

Subject: Paul McCartney & ROBBIE

LINK: BONK: ROBBIE's real name is in this link of his bio. Real name is Klegerman, not ROBERTSON as you may think. [Or did you?]

LARS: ROBBIE is a mason too. Seems to me I read it some place.

CHARLIE Y: Good story, lucky lady.

BOB W. & KEVIN J.:Thanx for links. Great show and nice to see it again. The sound is so much better than in the studio.

Take care & God Bless xoxoxo

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Steve

Thanks Dunc, I'll get out my atlas and see exactly where Arran is. Sounds like it might be in the Persian Gulf!

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Joan

My thoughts and prayers for Chris. I really admire all the young men and women who have chosen to serve this country.

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Lars

Subject: Babe Ruth vs. Toronto

BILL M.- Babe Ruth's only minor league home run was hit in 1914, in Toronto, while the young George Ruth was playing for the Providence minor league baseball team. He threw a one hit shutout in that game; final score was 9-0.

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Bill M

Also, local lore has Babe Ruth's first home run as a minor leaguer being hit at Toronto's first pro baseball field, on Toronto Island. I don't remember if he was on Toronto's team (who were later, if not then, part of the Red Stockings organisation) at the time, or on some visiting team.

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Dunc

Subject: Bill M, Bob W, Steve

Bill M:Great books. Correct. It is sad when you come across the remnants of a village, where you know the people were forced off the land to make way for sheep. It really annoys me that so few people own so much of the land and don't live there apart from a few weeks of the year on big estates, don't go to the local schools etc. However since your time there, a great development has been the buying of estates by groups of crofters, who finally get to own their own croft. There is a massive statue on a hill commemorating the Duke of Sutherland. I would like this torn down and replaced with a statue commemorating the cleared crofters. I can't wait for the abolishment of the House of Lords. We don't have hereditary peers now, but lords are still appointed. Because of the expenses scandal, the standing of politicians is at an all time low. Hopefully this will lead to change.

Band connection. You can understand why Dylan has a house in the Highlands...because he'll get peace there. He knows his Burns...'My Heart's in the Highlands'.

Bob W. It's a great place. I was helping Americans get there yesterday. My grandson and I cycled around a beautiful small cycle friendly island called Cumbrae yesterday just off that coast. The island you see on the TV coverage is called Arran and we used to spend family holidays there...a great place given the nickname Scotland in Miniature. (STEVE-Arran is where your family probably visited for excursions.) Golf is reasonably priced here and many people play it. Although I really enjoy sport, I never played golf seriously, being involved in football, hockey(field) and running.

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JTull Fan

Subject: Yankees

Pat, I should add that the name 'Yankees' came about from sports reporting of a now defunct local newspaper, which nicknamed the Highlanders 'Yankees', in a similar way that the original Washington Senators official name had actually been 'Nationals' for a long time prior to officially being changed to 'Senators'. After moving from Hilltop Park the now renamed Yankees moved to the Polo Grounds around 1912, and rented the facility from the NY Giants. After acquiring Babe Ruth, the Yankees began to outdraw the Giants in their own park, and got evicted. Yankee Stadium was quickly built across the East River in the then rural boondocks, the South Bronx. The new stadium was clearly visible to the Giants in the outfield of the Polo Grounds. Due to the proximity of both parks, once the the automobile era was in full swing, Yankees fans could park at the Polo Grounds and cross the bridge to Yankee Stadium. If you go to my link, go to the topic 'baseball parks and stadiums' or something close to that, and their are subtopics on the Polo Grounds, Yankee Stadium, and other modern, demolished, and historical parks that you will probably find historically fascinating. In fact, I spend a lot of my web time over there now. If the link does not work it is baseball-fever with the hyphen.

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Pat B

Interesting reading from the former Band associate.

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Pat B

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bob w.

Dunc, I'm watching some of the Open from Turnberry. Stunningly beautiful place. Looks like a sparkling day on Scotland's west coast. I hope you are enjoying the same.

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bob w.

dlew, Kevin,.....sincerest thanks. It is going to be a long year for Chris and all of us who love him. He remains stateside for the short term and we are all trying not to start the worrying quite yet. Far easier said than done.

Kevin, I was just checking out the show from last night. Great job by the Letterman Show and McCartney knocked it out of the park once again. More video linked above.

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Bill M

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JTull Fan

Pat, the name of NY Yankees predecessors, the Highlanders, does not derive from any Civil War regiments, but rather the location of their park, Hilltop Park, which was located on the highest point in Manhattan. They played there prior to their relocation to the Polo Grounds. Homeplate of Hilltop Park is memorialized in the lobby of, I believe, Columbia University Hospital (but it might be NY Presbyterian, I'd have to double check).

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Kevin J

Above link is to Paul M on Letterman last night....I really enjoyed it.....Excellent choice of songs and as always beautifully perfomed...... bob w: I second dlew's thoughts.

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dlew919

Hoping for a speedy and safe return for your son.

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bob w.

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Young Hippie

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Charlie Y

Subject: Sometimes Good Things Happen to Good People

Bob: I know a woman at a local grocery store whose son is in the Army in Iraq right now. She's friendly, hard-working and a real asset to the store. She told me the other day she had stopped at a convenience store "for a six-pack" and did something she rarely does--buy a lottery ticket. A few days later she couldn't believe it when she learned she'd won $250,000! I know she'd rather have her son safe at home, but I don't know anyone who deserved to win that lottery more that she does.

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Lars

Subject: Stone masons in the Civil War and Woodstock

PAT- I never heard of a stone mason regiment, but if there was one they were probably a bunch of muscular men who refused to accept orders during coffee break, "You know what you can do with your "charge," Captain. We ain't no freakin' electricians."

Stone masonry has a definite link to The Band. The Band lived in the middle of the Catskill bluestone quarries. Levon used it on both of his studios (more on the surviving one). Randy Ciarlante and I were stone masons together in the late 1980's. Larry Packer worked a few summers building stone walls. He told me Professor Louie helped him on one of his walls, back in the days of their youth. Randy's still laying stone around his place.

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Serenity

Subject: Civil War,etc.

LINK: DUNC: For you on the American Civil war. I found this very interesting, and hope you have the time to read some of it. I think it's one of the most interesting times in history. I have the Ken Burns' series and it is fantastic, as well as TV's "Civil War Journal", hosted by Danny Glover. Also an excellent series. ROBBIE called it "romantic", and it was all of that too.

SEBASTIAN: We will be looking forward to the release of your dad's new CD. Now if only we can get our NORM out with his.

NORM: Calm down, kiddo, we know you're "working hard" at it. We are just anxious to hear it. Give your mom our love and hope she has a nice visit with you and Susan, which she probably is. How can she help not to, with a nice guy like you...

BOB W: Thanks. I'm looking forward to Paul McCartney on Dave's show tonight. Don't think he could top Chris Farley's on the link you posted. That was really funny. and I'm not a fan of Chris Farley. [May he RIP]

Take care and God bless.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxox

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BONK

Besides my own family name being cleared, it's interesting to note the name ROBERTSON on the list. Geez Dunc, do you think we can get our Castle back?

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Dunc

Subject: Bob W

Bob W:Good, it must give you peace of mind. My younger cousin, who is 51, is there.

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Dunc

Subject: Various

Westcoaster:After finding out about your family up north, I got nowhere with Dollar connections. Perhaps because it was in the school holidays. Give me your relation's name, whose portrait was on the wall, and I'll give it another go.

Pat. Very interesting. The clearances from the Highland went on for many years and it's still an 'empty' part of Europe. I should do more reading on the American Civil War, but it's all about time. I think I've got enough historical interests.

Bonk:Thanks for the post. That's the civil war I'm interested in. That's not big news here. After the defeat of the Jacobites at Culloden the aim of the Hanoverians was to destroy the Highland way of life.

My son and daughter in law saw Bruce at the National Stadium last night. They thought it was great.

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bob w.

Dunc, thanks for your kindness. Chris is safe at Camp Pendleton (near San Diego, California) for now. He may be headed for Afghanistan but no date as yet. I keep your brave men and women in my thoughts and prayers as well.

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BONK

Very interesting story in to-days National Post concerning the Jacobite families of Scotland and how they were ATTAINTED and exiled. It seems that 250 years later Scottish Parliament is about to fix this and remove any stigma associated with anyone that supported Bonnie Prince Charlie. Go to nationalpost.com

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Pat B

The monument is much more impressive than what is shown here. However it is true that it sits rather weirdly on a Knoxville sidewalk near an intersection.

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Pat B

On this Monday past, I took my 11 year old son to see Green Day, and they were spectacular.

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westcoaster

Subject: Dazed & Confused

Damn Bill, did I not give you the right address? If so I'm sorry. I'll e mail it shortly here. I just came on here, while I was waiting for an e mail about a job. (We, like a lot of you I suppose do a lot of job pricing and communica by the e.)

I'm not quite sure I'm following you Bob. You'll have to give me an e.

Dunc: Dollar Academy......my mom is here at the moment visiting me. My older brother just phoned me, railing on me because I haven't got this gawd damn CD finished. He has summer people up at his lodge in Rivers Inlet demanding to know where it is. I finally got frustrated, I said, "fuck all of yuz, now I'M NOT DOIN' IT! Y'all won't leave me be."

Any way my mum and Susan and I were sitting having tea, and my mum started with the lecture. You have to share your music dear! All you boys are musical, and it's to share. So Susan says, isn't it funny they all play music. So mum says, well their father played music, and my father, when at Dollar Academy, was awarded a gold medal from the Royal Academy of music in London. Well SHIT! I ain't got no gold medals. All I get is shit because of this gawd damn unfinished CD!

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Dunc

Subject: Various, Pat B

It was 40 years ago yesterday that the Band were joined on stage at the Mississippi River Festival by Bob Dylan, introduced as Elmer Johnson. Was anybody there? I don't think it is on JAN's website. Thanks for the website, Jan. If they were there would they mind sharing the experience?

Would have written about the above yesterday, but I was in Edinburgh telling the grandchildren about their heritage. William Wallace is a great hero. PAT B - you probably know this already, but the only American Civil War memorial outside America is in Scotland. See link. There was also a Scottish book published recently about the role of Clyde built ships in blockades. Do you know about this? I'm interested in a different Civil War.

Talking about culture,SEBASTIAN. Looking forward to the new album and if it hadn't been for Robbie Robertson (and PETER VINEY) I wouldn't have spent a great day with people of the six nations and the Meti at Black Creek Pioneer Village. I still really enjoy 'Making a Noise' and 'Unbound' and indeed the whole album. I think the guitar riff (first riff) on 'Unbound' is one of the great Rob riffs. Does he? Last time I wrote to you SEBASTIAN, somebody suggested I was a crawler. They don't know me.

Bob W. This has been a terrible week in Britain for the military. Hope things are well with your son? I was thinking about you as I was cycling around the nearest island with my grandson today.

Enjoying Electric Dirt, but still not played it enough.

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tim

Subject: Jim Weider article

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Kevin T

Subject: Levon's Show In Pittsburgh 7/14

Folks, Just wanted to pass along some info from the show last night. Levon opened for The Black Crows at Pittsburgh's Station Square on Tuesday night. The show was great, though about three songs in I began to wonder when Levon was going to start singing! After a couple more, the last being "Deep Elum Blues" with our boy on mandolin it became obvious that he wasn't going to sing. Larry Cambell explained to us that Levon had a sore throat and wasn't going to sing. A mild dissapointment to be sure but made up for by the beautiful singing of Amy, Theresa, Larry and the keyboard player (no,I didn't catch his name). They even trotted out the Robinson boys to help on "The Weight" which was pretty nice. Theresa and Amy did a sweet job on "Long Black Veil" and Theresa really shone on "It Makes No Difference"-brought a tear to my eye. One other note. I was in section 100 row "K" and two rows in front of me was a beautiful blonde woman with blue eyes in a white top,khaki shorts and running shoes with an "Electric Dirt" poster. If she reads this list or you know her, have her contact me. I'd sure like to find her-I lost her in the crowd.

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Bill M

While on the topic of Baltimore, it's worth noting that the city rates a mention in our guys' "Ferdinand The Imposter", either because of a hospital there or because it was as close as Robbie could get to a rhyme with 'Doukhobour', as sadavid pointed out in his article-length study of the song.

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jh

Cleaning up... on holiday... all is well. Holland next!

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bob w.

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Joan

Thank you for the update Sebastian. I'm looking forward to the release.

The tune Thumbs was playing sounds like a song we used to square dance to at summer camp. "The Jessie Polka Square.

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Landmark

Good to see you back Jersey Girl. FYI: the 8th race at Belmont Park today is named "The Jersey Girl Stakes". I recommend the #2 horse "Slam The Cat". Good luck!

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Kevin J

I have been listening to the first two RR releases a lot in recent months and the song Ameican Roulette really resonates given all that has been going on in the news lately. It also happens to be a great tune to play loudly in the car on long drives! I just hope that there is a lot of guitar on the new album…….a Christmas 2009 release?

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Jersey Girl

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Deb

Who are the artists you've been working with?

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Sebastian

Hey Everyone- Just wanted to let you know I sat down with my dad the other day and had a little listening party. I played him two artists that I've been working with and he played me about 5 rough tracks from his upcoming album. In my opinion it's his best stuff since the days of The Band. Lyrically, guitar-wise, and emotionally it's some of the most charged stuff he's ever done. You won't be disappointed. However the release is quite a ways off... Cheers.

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bob w.

Subject: McCartney on the Letterman Show

Serenity, thanks for the heads up. Let's hope Dave does as good a job as Chris did.

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Bill M

David P: Thanks for the link to Thumbs Carllile (sp?), another guy I'd never heard of before. I really like the "Li'l Liza Jane" clip, partly for the music and partly because it looked so much like Don Messer and the Islanders playing on "Don Messers Jubilee" through the fifties and sixties (and on radio for years before that) - especially the way the pianist (who can forget Waldo Munro from Messer's band?) looks and smiles at the camera. Of course "Liza Jane" was a song that our guys had done for years with Ronnie Hawkins before recording it in '65 as "Go Go Liza Jane". Presumably because it was in the Hawkins repertoire, the song was recorded earlier in the '60s by a Hamilton group, Nicky Moore and the Sceptres, and included on their only LP - and as one side of their only 45. The flip side of that 45 was "Lonely Weekends", a song that Hawkins later recorded ('71) with Terry Danko on bass.

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David P.

Subject: All Thumbs

Serentity: There's a link connecting Roger Miller with The Band. The amazing guitarist Kenneth "Thumbs" Carllile, who was a friend of Garth's & The Band, played in Roger Miller's band for many years. I've provided a link above to some great videos of Mr. Carllile performing his unique style of guitar. Check out his version of "Mystery Train"!!

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Serenity

Dave Letterman has Paul McCartney as his only guest Wed.

KEVIN J: Thanx for the mention. Carlos Santana is one great guitarist. So smooth to listen to.

DLEW: I'll take Sinatra, but I do like Tony too. I remember having a Sinatra jacket when he was so popular. It was a 2-tone brown, and I wore it everywhere. Very popular at the time.

N. BOY: Good speech and "well written".

BEG: Love that "Crazy Love". I have the CD and have listened to it often. Our ROBBIE's guitar playing was exceptional. [As it always is]

NORM: You brought memories back too with that excerpt of Roger Millers'. I saw him live and he was a great entertainer. I had all his LP's at one time. Now I have CD's. He was a wonderful person, who, like so many others, died too young.

DAVID P: Thanx to you too for bringing back some childhood memories. My dad always listened to the Grand Ole Opry, and then I did too. Eddy Arnold was my fave. I can still remember him being on after Ernest Tubb [12:30AM], who was on after Bill Monroe [didn't care too much for him]. A few years ago NBC carried it on Saturdays at 7PM. Still had a few of the oldies. I loved Marty Robbins too.

Nice "talking" to you guys again.

Take care and God Bless.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Lars

Subject: Cadet Poe

EDGAR ALLEN POE trivia: Mr. Poe attended the USMA at West Point during 1830-31. Got pissed off at his family and decided to flunk out, which doesn't take long at a strict institution like W. P.

Also, speaking of Baltimore, the original Baltimore Orioles became the New York Highlanders in 1901. The Highlanders evolved into the NY Yankees a couple of years later. Even Babe Ruth got his start in Baltimore (born there in 1895).

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Bill M

David P: Thanks for posting that Hemphill tribute. Never heard of the guy, but will now watch for the name.

Charlie Y: Given the U of V's links to Edgar Allen, I'd like to think that somebody's seen fit to fund a Poe Chair of Literature there.

Re Baltimore, I mostly think of Tim Hardin's line, "Lady came from Baltimore, all she wore was lace". It's amazing that Ronnie Hawkins managed to make it through that entire song on at least two separate albums without a single lascivious aside. Do you think he'd've called her "Hon"?

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westcoaster

Subject: Engine Engine # 9

Engine, engine number 9, comin down the railroad line, I KNOW SHE GOT ON IN BALTIMORE!

Well 110 miles ain't much distance, It sure do make her different. I don't think she loves me...anymore

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David P.

Charlie mentioned the passing of Tom Wilkes and I'm reminded of how CD packaging has ruined the magic of so many classic album covers. I was pleased last week to see David Letterman hold up the LP cover of "Electric Dirt", rather than the CD, when Levon appeared on the Late Show.

One of Tom Wilkes' famous album cover designs has a Dylan connection, even though he didn't take part in the recording. Delaney & Bonnie & Friends "On Tour with Eric Clapton" features a Barry Feinstein photo of Albert Grossman's Rolls-Royce with Dylan's boots hanging out the window on the front cover. Mr. Wilkes' own photo of the all-star group is featured on the back cover.

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Steve

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Steve

Bill, author, Jason Schneider will be on Q tomorrow morning sometime between 10 and 11;30 for a half hour interview about the book. John Cleese will be on for a full hour Thursday morning.

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Pat B

"As long as Baltimore" was a phrase we employed in the early 80's thanks to a friend named Wiley.

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Charlie Y

And Jan, I've been to Poe's grave. The neighborhood fits him. There's a great Poe exhibit at the University of Virginia right now. It includes one of twelve known copies of Poe's first book, "Tamerlane," currently the most valuable book ever published in the United States.

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David P.

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Jan F.

Bill M - absolutely -- I grew up in a neighborhood full of boys. The oldest and worst bully is now the district attorney in the county where we were raised (and was rumored to be considering a run for the governership of Ala) All those football games and fights also might explain why I don't care to be called "hon" when I'm in Baltimore (or anywhere else for that matter).

I've always wanted to visit Poe's grave in Baltimore, I'm just not willing to take my life in my own hands for a historical thrill. Didn't know about Zappa being born there -- interesting.

I'd have to say The Beatles are like Washington DC . . . The Stones more like, oh, I dunno, Pittsburgh? Detroit? New Orleans?

Noticed in the ATL paper yesterday that "The Big House," in Macon, Ga where the Allman Bros Band lived/worked early on is being opened as a museum soon. Maybe Big Pink won't be far behind?

J.F.

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bob w.

Subject: The "Carny" Soundtrack

The "Carny" soundtrack (Warner Bros. - vinyl - new or used) can be purchased from a variety of sellers on Amazon among other sites.

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brown eyed girl

Another treat for music fans of Robbie Robertson who don't have his songs from various soundtracks. I have all of them except from "Carny". If anyone can help out please let me know.

"Crazy Love" with Aaron Neville mp3 that you can download.

Sheer beauty and love especially at 2:10 and 3:52 onward. :-D

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Peter V

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brown eyed girl

Thanks to Carol Caffin for wishing Robbie Robertson a Happy Birthday on her Rick Danko site. :-D

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Charlie Y

Subject: On Baltimore

Jan: I really love Baltimore but I'm not sure of the origin of the "Charm City" nickname. Anyplace where women call me "hon" frequently (part of the local culture) makes me want to return, though. Baltimore is edgy and blue collar compared to DC's government-as-college-town culture. In many ways I feel more at home in Baltimore than in DC, though I live much closer to DC and have spent much more time there. Making a musical analogy, I'd say Balimore is like The Band while DC more like The Rolling Stones. Does that make sense?

Anyway, Baltimore is the final resting place of Poe, the birthplace of Frank Zappa, the site of the glory days of Johnny Unitas, and the home of John Waters and Cal Ripken, Jr., so what could be bad about a city with that kind of character?

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David P.

The talented Atlanta writer Paul Hemphill passed away Saturday. He was from Birmingham, Alabama; the son of a long-haul truck driver. Beginning as a newspaper columnist and later as the author of 15 books, including novels and non-fiction, he had an ear for telling the stories of everyday people in the South.

His landmark book "The Nashville Sound: Bright Lights and Country Music", published in 1970, delved deep into the heart of country music. He had a love of baseball, as well as for the craft of writing, and his novel "Long Gone", written about minor league ball, was later adapted into an HBO film. His last book, published in 2005 at the same time he was stricken with serious health problems, was "Lovesick Blues: The Life of Hank Williams".

Here is a wonderful passage from "The Nashville Sound", originally published by Simon and Schuster and Pocket Books:

"If you were raised some 20 years ago in a place like Hamilton, Ala., or Norman, Okla., or Hazard, Ky., your Saturday nights took on a definite pattern. Once the chores were done and night began to close in, the entire family would huddle around the big Zenith radio in the living room and the old man would start hunting for 650 on the dial, for clear-channel WSM, 'the broadcasting service of the National Life and Accident Insurance Company, Nashville, Tennessee,' for the Grand Ole Opry. Then, until midnight, weary legs and cracked hands and broken spirits would be resurrected by the familiar sounds crackling over the radio: Ernest Tubb's bullfrog voice singing 'Walkin' the Floor Over You,' and Hank Williams yodeling his 'Lovesick Blues,' and Roy Acuff wailing 'Great Speckled Bird' as silvery ribbons of tears streamed down his deep-ridged face, and the crowd at Ryman Auditorium in Nashville whoopin at the absurdity of Cousin Minnie Pearl, in that store-bought hat with the price tag still dangling, giving out the latest gossip from her make-believe town (or was it?), Grinder Switch. The Opry leaves an indelible scar on your heart when you have let it be that big part of your young life, like the mark left by your mother's love, and a dream that won't let you go is the dream of one day going to Nashville and entering that same old auditorium and sitting through a whole night at the Opry. The dream is even more important, of course, to those who learn how to pick a guitar or sing. A country boy with a guitar dreams of playing on the stage of the Opry just as fevently as a kid with a baseball bat dreams of one day stepping into the batter's box at Yankee Stadium. The Opry is country music's Yankee Stadium and Carnegie Hall and White House. 'The Opry,' says General Manager Bud Wendell, 'is the end of the rainbow.'"

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Bill M

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Kevin J

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Steve

My favorite is the news paper headline from the early 70's," Vikings Win With Cox Out". The headline referred to a Vikings' win without field goal kicker, Fred Cox, who missed the game because of an injury.

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Jan F.

Charlie, sounds like it was a nice time in Baltimore. Why, does anyone know, is Baltimore called "Charm City"? It's anything but charming. I still consider it a "Southern" town, but somehow gone strangely astray. After a few visits, we put it on our "been there, done that" list. Well, unless there is an interesting concert.

Sounds like the CFL’s fair catch rule is somewhat akin to my childhood memories of touch football (although in my neighborhood it was more like shove football). Weren’t you supposed to count to five (?) after the ball was snapped and then go after the quarterback?

J.F.

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Colemanballs

Unintentionally funny bits of sports commentary are known as “Colemanballs” after the fortnightly column in Private Eye magazine, which has been listing them for years. It originates with sports commentator David Coleman. They’re often just dumb rather than rude.

Murray Walker on motor racing “We’ve had cars going off the track left, right and centre,” and “With half the race gone, that means there’s half the race to go.”

There are pages of them online if you Google “Colemanballs.” They include the boat race cox one.

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dlew919

though I don't really believe it happened was at the Cambridge Oxford rowing regatta, and at the end of the race, the commentator said something along the lines of 'Isn't that nice, the Oxford Captain's wife is kissing the cox of the Cambridge team. What have I said?"

My favourite cricket sledge was from an overweight English cricketer to Glenn McGrath, the Australian fast bowler: McGrath said 'Why are you so fat?' and the batsman said, 'Because every time I f*ck your wife, she gives me a biscuit'... (You don't often see this one quoted any more, because Glenn McGrath's wife died of cancer - she was a dignified woman. Still, the quote is very funny, and not really aimed at Jane McGrath...)

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Steve

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Peter V

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Charlie Y

Subject: The Late, Great Tom Wilkes

A seminal figure in the art of music packaging passed away quietly in his home a couple of weeks ago--Tom Wilkes--at age 69. He suffered from ALS (aka "Lou Gehrig's disease).

Mr. Wilkes designed all the posters and other graphics for the very influential Monterey Pop Festival in 1967, and his photography and design turned up on classic LP covers including ones for the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, Eric Clapton, Joe Cocker and George Harrison. He photographed Janis Joplin for the cover of the "Pearl" album just hours before she died. Mr. Wilkes was honored with a Grammy Award for the package of The Who's "Tommy" as performed by the London Symphony Orchestra and Chamber Choir.

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dlew919

Subject: Bennett on Sinatra

Thought some might enjoy...

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Charlie Y

Subject: Zombies and Yardbirds and Davis (Oh My)

It was a nice evening for some live music on the Baltimore waterfront last night as a tour billing itself as "Rock Royalty (British Classic Rock)" rolled into Charm City. Each band performed earnestly and admirably, avoiding the "oldies concert" syndrome for the most part. It's always nice to be in a crowd that sings along when "Up On Cripple Creek" pops up on the intermission background music.

The Spencer Davis Group performed first, borrowing the lead vocal talents of one of the younger Yardbirds to sing "I'm a Man" and "Gimme Some Lovin'." Both brought the crowd to life and the evening got increasingly lively from there. The Yardbirds played their hits with the orginal drummer and rhythm guitarist leading the three young front guys admirably, "School of Rock" style. They also played some more obscure and edgy stuff to show they're not just an oldies outfit. The Zombies delivered an interesting mix of material with surprisingly strong vocals and some steller keyboard work from Rod Argent. It was worth the trip.

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bob w.

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Steve

Bob, since his style of play was much the same in MTL, fans here thought that was his name as well but it was pronounced Olding of course.

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Bill M

Listening to "Tree with roots" (thanks sadavid), I'm wondering who it is doing the responses to Dylan's calls on "See You Later, Allen Ginsberg". And is that Rick saying, "How does he write [cuts out]?"? Does that suggest that Dylan wrote the responses, or were they (and likely the calls) made up on the spot?

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David P.

Bill M: Au contraire -- the most dangerous member of the Bush team was the waterboy. Under their rules, his duties took on new meaning.

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Bill M

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bob w.

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David P.

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Bill M

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Steve

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Steve

But you're right they have to give 5 yards before smushing the receiver. You can leave the ball on the ground and fake picking it up , trying to draw guys into a penalty but that has a short shelf life because the kicker if he gets down the field can pick up the ball and run with it, so you've got about 2 or 3 seconds before you have to pick it up and take your medicine. It's just another zany aspect of the game.

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Kevin J

David P: No man should know all things guitar and the CFL "no yards" rule in one life. You are too good. Thanks, by the way, for the tip on Jesse Winchester - I am really enjoying it...

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David P.

While there's no fair-catch rule, doesn't the CFL enforce a 5-yard halo, allowing the receiver ample room to catch the ball before he's clobbered?

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Steve

Kevin, I've just been taking down the CFL as a kind of self vaccination program in case I get dragged before a reconvened session of The Committee On Un American Posting. I want to be able to point at my history as an equal opportunity critic. Next I'm going to go to work on Sea Lion Dion.

Your mention of the fair catch in the NFL brings back a special inter league memory concerning the fair catch. Ed George, was a standout guard for the Alouettes in the early 70's. He left the Als after a couple of seasons and signed with the NFL. In one of his first games with The Eagles, The Eagles punted and big Ed went charging down field. The punt receiver put his hand up to signal a fair catch.

Unfortunately for the receiver the ball and Ed arrived at the same time and at about the same speed. Ed never slowed a step before flattening the poor bastard. Ed later claimed that that he'd forgotten about that sissy rule, strange since he was American who'd played college ball at Wake Forest and had played for Baltimore for a year before playing for The Eagles. He must have been having some kind of CFL flashback.

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Northern Boy

... could be connected to the fact that I'm still waiting for it to come via Amazon. Threw some other stuff on the order with it to dodge the shipping fee, so maybe that's why it's taking so long. Can't remember all the other stuff, but there was Dave Matthews for NG, Van's live Astral Weeks for the two of us and a couple of "must haves" by BC artists. Jim Byrnes "My Walking Stick" on the Blackhen Label is considered by some critics and by the artist himself to be his best to date. Better than "House of Refuge" ? Well, I'm from Missouri on that one. It contains a cover of The Band's "Ophelia', a slowed-down affair I understand, so we'll see how that works. The other "must have" Cd by a BC artist on my order also features a Band cover, namely "The Weight". I speak of course of the new Norm Jones Cd entitled "The Wait", out on the AnyDayNow label. Now I can't just put my finger on it, but why do I have the creeping suspicion that it's this one album holding up my entire Amazon order, and keeping me from enjoying Levon's new "Eclectic Dirt" Cd ? NB

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Kevin J

Serenity: The above link is for you…..

Steve……….I have almost no interest in football anymore but could not let that most tiresome of cliché ( the rough rider one ) pass without comment……here are some reasons why the CFL is the better brand of football to watch……..1. No fair catch – well paid athletes actually have to catch a ball and run with it on a punt as opposed to just saunter off the field as they do in the NFL…..2. 20 seconds between plays as opposed to 40 seconds – doesn’t everybody want games in all sports to move faster……3. Backfield in motion - much more exciting……….3. The final 5 minutes of a CFL game can actually have many lead changes and changes of possession ( due to 3 downs ) as opposed to just hanging on to the ball and letting the clock run out as usually happens in the NFL………4. 21% of NFL players have been arrested or indicted of major felonies – at last count, the CFL tally was below 1%....

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Bill M

David P: Good to know that Gar Gillies' work is so well known. I had no idea.

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David P.

Subject: The Winnipeg Sound

I believe what you're hearing on "American Women" is that smooth overdrive/sustain that Randy Bachman achieved through the use of a Garnet Herzog tube pre-amp, a legendary sound in guitar circles. It was designed by Thomas Garnet "Gar" Gillies from Winnipeg for Mr. Bachman (see link).

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dlew919

Steve - it is an amazing sound on American Woman. In fact, until now, if you'd asked me, I'd have thought it was an organ. I assume a Gibson played through a Marshall. But my assumptions are often wrong.

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Steve

I've never heard Colin described that way but it seems to fit. Both sides of his brain would work in harmony I guess.

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Joan

Joe thanks for that Richard Manuel song.

NB I love that speech. I hope someday to be able to use it.

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Northern Boy

It certainly does sneak up on a person, as you say. When a friend of mine's retirement dinner came along, he got up out of his seat in the crowded banquet hall, went up to the front to the microphone, waited for the din of the crowd to diminish, leaned into the mic and then literally said;

"I'M SHY AND RETIRING".

He then returned to his seat.

Absolutely brilliant !

And from that day on I understood the secret of how to make public speaking look effortless - don't put any effort into it ! NB

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Northern Boy

You're right Stevon. Just now I did indeed say them out loud, and yep, little to little to no similarity from a phonetic standpoint. Vastly different from when you say the following two items aloud, "Canadian Football Leagure" and "failed to gain ten yards so kick the ball away", which pretty much sound identical to all but the most discerning of ears (dogs and Superman).

I played BARK the other night in search of the Bachmanesque guitar. That album always sound fresh, for lack of a better word. Kind of like "The Weight". I don't think I'll ever tire of hearing that song. Didn't Colin Linden say something once along the lines of "other people's brains have a right and a left half, but I've got a Levon half and a Rick Danko half". As Canada's first living human brain donor, I personally have little to no idea what Mr. Linden's packing upstairs. Do you ever recall him articulating any worthy cogitations along these lines Steve ? (Mind you I could be making all this up; however, I'm somewhat confident that I'm not). NB

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joe j

Subject: Retirement

Retirement. No not me. Not likely.

In a hour I'll pick up my missus from the local health centre for what is supposed to be the last time. Time has flown. She'll have a 35th year reunion of her nursing class in Chicago next month. Her 28 years in Twillingate were preceded by 4 years at Teheran General. What's remarkable? Not a single knife or bullet wound to treat in all these years in Newfoundland.

I work out of my home office and am looking forward to having her around 24/7. I reserve the right to change my mind in a couple of months.

We're taking off to a location that's isolated, even by Newfoundland standards, for a whole week. Electricity for one hour a day. We won't miss it; Been there before. Then we're having an extended open house in festival season before making our separate ways to Illinois.

I intend to hear and see Marty Stuart, Scott Goudie and John Prine on my rambles.

See you all next month. I'll pay my tab when I get home.

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Steve

Sorry, but there was one thing I forgot to mention when listing off all the reasons the CFL is an inferior league to the NFL.

In a league that for many years had 9 teams the owners were unable to come up with 9 different team names so two teams, Ottawa and Saskatchewan shared the same team name, The Rough Riders. Hoping that no one would notice that two teams had the same name in a 9 team league, Ottawa spelled their name Rough Riders while Saskatchewan stuck the two names together making a completely different name, Roughriders, that couldn't be confused with the Ottawa team. If you say the names out loud you'll see they don't sound at all alike.

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Norbert

Subject: The Ghost of Richard Manuel

I'll second that, thanks Joe.

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Mike Nomad

Thanks, Joe J.

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joe j

Subject: The Ghost of Richard Manuel

By 'Steppin' In It'

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Mike

Subject: Levon's acoustic version (video) of "King Fish."

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Dunc

Subject: Various

Thanks David P, Bill M and BEG. I did some googling on Wayne Moss. I've posted a link to information on him. Did anybody see Barefoot Jerry his band or play the CDs? He talks about how good Joe South was.

Got Electric Dirt yesterday.

I'm away out for lunch to a beautiful cosmopolitan part of Glasgow. We've had good weather this summer.

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Serenity

Subject: The BAND

LINK: Anyone interested in seeing/reading all things THE BAND, check this out. Didn't see too many pics, but a lot of reading in the archives. A complete list of their albums,etc.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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dlew919

he certainly fills those big shoes admirably.

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abby

boy - I enjoyed seeing levon on letterman. and dave was so psyched after that commercial, right before the band played - reminded me of how I felt both times I got to make a Ramble. Bama - I've never heard of that song. But I did have a few too many beers tonite.... I do need to get back to Woodstock, though. Life is short. We're all getting old. Some getting older than others. (not me) Why not go? Let's go!

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joe j

Subject: Hideaway

Blast From The Past.

c1970 no?

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Serenity

Subject:

LINK: Some good photos from 2009 concerts. Nice to see Bob Dylan smile. Very good pics of Dead, Bruce and many more. Is that really Robert Plant with Prince Charles? He looks different.

BEG: Good links as usual. You are an amazing poster to be sure. Thanx.

ARI S: Thanx for link, and all you other guys. Good ones.

BOB W: Thanx for link,but I was lucky to see it and tape it on a video.

KEVIN J: Thanx to you too for your link. Since I watch a lot of late night TV shows, I find the music never sounds good. The music seems to drown out the vocals at times. That's why the outdoor concerts sound so much better.

JAN F: Thanx for the memories of Clint Holmes' "Playground In My Mind". It was one of my daughters' faves when she was 3 years old. Along with "Sneaky Snake" by Tom T. Hall and "Lily,The Pink" by the Irish Rovers. Novelty tunes were so "catchy" and seem to linger in your memory. I love them. I can still remember some when I was young, and that's many moons ago...

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxoxo

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Zzzz

Well, in the end game... I did order my Electric Dirt straight from the generator site... and I looked at the merchandise page too... but nope, no skateboard/guitar case stickers for sale yet... so when my kid flies off the ramp doing an "Indy" and the other kids are oooing and ahhhhing... all they will see right now on the bottom of his board... are stickers by the Allman Bros. and the Dead... hehehe...

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Zzzz

See link Jimmy...

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Dee

Subject: French from France

Had lunch with my friend, a native of France. Here is her version of cast-iron frying pan which she broke down into it's parts.

frying pan = poele a frire or sauteuse

cast-iron = fonte

well-oiled = bien graiss'e (Not a French keyboard)

oiled = graisse or huile

She said bien graiss'e is often used when describing a politician.

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Jan F.

Subject: Sure cure for earworms

Joan, I prescribe listening to The Brown Album, volume as loud as tolerated. Dancing optional, but highly recommended.

J.F.

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Rhythm Jimmy

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Joan

Oh no! First Richard comes in and the says he can't get "Mandy" out of his head, then you post Clint Holmes. Bad earworms. I must do something to get rid of them. :)

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Jan F.

Kevin, I didn't see your link as I didn't scroll down that far today -- so I'm glad I saw Ari's. Thanks to you both for posting the link -- it was worth posting twice!

I had to run out and get lunch today (usually bring my lunch from home). On my car radio (commerical) there was this moldy-oldy station playing the song posted below. If you remember it, and it gets stuck in your head all weekend, you can thank me on Monday 8-)

Playground in My Mind

Artist: Clint Holmes (peak Billboard position # 2 in 1973) Words and Music by Paul Vance and Lee Pockriss

1)When this old world gets me down and there's no love to be foundI close my eyes and soon I find I'm in a playground in my mind Where the children laugh and the children play

And we sing a song all day

2)My name is Michael, I've got a nickel, I've got a nickel shiny and new

I'm gonna buy me all kinds of candy, that's what I'm gonna do

3)In the wonders that I find in the playground in my mind In a world that used to be, close your eyes and follow me Where the children laugh and the children play And we'll sing a song all day

4)My girl is Cindy, when we get married we're gonna have a baby or two

We're gonna let them visit their grandma, that's what we're gonna do

Tonight, I'm headed about a mile down the road from where I work to Strathmore Hall to see Last Train Home perform on the lawn for $10!!!

J.F.

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Kevin J

Ari: Scroll back a bit as I had already posted that clip this morning

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Mike Nomad

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Joan

It was great to see Levon do Tennessee Jed. I wish we could have seen what played during the commercial. Nice to see Jimmy Weider in there. Amy looked super. I think motherhood agrees with her. She's prettier than ever

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David P.

Levon's probably still suffering the effects from a recent bout of laryngitis, which sidelined him when he was out on tour following the outdoor show at Red Rocks.

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Bill M

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Ari S.

Subject: DAVID LETTERMAN INTERVIEW ON LEVON HELM MISSING THE SHOW

This is fantastic! Everybody should watch this.

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Bill M

Steve: While you're at it, you might ask the son's girlfriend about the lyric I'm listening to right now, from Chilliwack's "CS Man" - "I'm a chicken-shit man ... I try to do my damnedest but I never seem to get off the ground". To keep the rural theme going, they also do a (searing) version of "Groundhog".

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paul

Thats' got to be Robbie taking the lead on "Obviously 5 Believers." I've always thought the lick between verses came from Little Walter's "Up the Line." Has anyone ever heard this lick from any track before Little Walter, who did it in 1963?

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dlew919

Great stuff. (Thanks for posting Bob, but Letterman plays here 24 hours after the states - had to watch it 'live')

I think David P (as usual) was right when he said he thought htey did TNTDODD - Letterman was effusive. Levon's voice was a bit croaky, but none of that mattered. Great performance! I assume it was Amy on the Mandolin. I was surprised to see Levon used his own horn section - (pleasantly surprised). I htought he might use some of the Letterman band. Who was on the keyboards?

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bob w.

Link: Last night's performance on the Letterman Show.

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Steve

Thanks Sadavid for the cast iron frying pan. I'm going to wait for my son's girlfriend's complete sentence and do it properly for Bill, I've come too far to cut corners now. I have a feeling it's a sentence that won't translate directly. Anything to do with food doesn't seem to.

I've heard Gens du Pays so many times sung in restaurants by birthday wishers and it inevitably is carried on by someone with a large glass of wine in front of them into the complete patriotic chanson. Everyone seems to know the words and join in like yanks during the 7th inning stretch with Take Me Out To The Ballgame. I once heard it three times in one evening at a restaurant in Perce as group after group of tourists came in and feted someone in their group.

Bill, Jason Schneider will be on Q next week, I'll try and give you the day in advance.

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Zzzz

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Kevin J

Subject: Levon on Dave 1983

The above link is one of the great talk show segments ever......illustrating how a no show can be turned into a lovely tribute.....you wanted talk about The Band on national TV - here it is!.....Enjoy!

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Kevin J

TNTDODD was definitely kicked off by the house band before the commercial break and Dave was as excited as I have ever seen him when the show returned before Levon’s introduction…….Electric Dirt was well introduced and Levon did Tennessee Jed…….it was, unfortunately, a very rough performance…..That studio is notoriously kept at about 60 degrees fahrenheit and perhaps this affected Levon’s voice……

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brown eyed girl

LOL...This site states it's Wayne Moss afterall on both songs. I've never heard of him. Anyway, that's all.....gotta go.

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Bill M

Joe J: It's all good, as long as nobody tore it up and threw it in your face just for a laugh.

Dunc: I know only enough to be able to say it wasn't Robbie.

Steve: I can't say I followed the Guitar Nation story closely, but I did see occasional reports over the years. And I've seen the book - nice photos and a list of players - the first being Fearing of course.

Peter V: If you wander over to the link above you might find the liner notes to a Robbie Lane and the Disciples comp that Pacemaker released some years ago - as opposed to the recent reissue of "It's Happening". Although the Hawk stuff is not on the comp, it is covered in the Notes. The short version is that Hawk was indeed Hawkins' label. Hawkins released three records of his own (all back by the Disciples, who were called the Hawks) and the Disciples did two of their own. Plus another singer, Buddy Carlton, did one or two more backed by the Disciples. Ex-Suede, ex-Hawk Scott Cushnie was called back by Hawkins to help run the company, and he produced the first Hawkins and the first Robbie Lane 45. The second set (including the one you have) was produced by Fred Carter - though I don't believe he played on it. (I could go on, and will if you can't find what you need at the Pacemaker site.)

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brown eyed girl

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 17, 2009

Bob Dylan Song #72: I Want You

"This is one of the songs on Blonde on Blonde that really works best when you're listening to it through headphones. That way, you get to hear every element of the music working together in such harmony - Robbie Robertson's guitar dancing elegantly around the main melody, meshing beautifully with the organ's simple notes, while Dylan pounds away on the piano when he needs a little extra oomph. And, as the sour counterpoint to the sweetness of the band, there's Dylan's voice at it's most "Dylanesque" - that unique style of phrasing and gruff vocalisms that we all know and love (or tolerate, in some cases). It actually helps, in a lot of ways; a song that could possibly have been a little too twee is tempered by the sound of late night cigarettes and jaded weariness, even when it's singing lyrics about undying love. A pretty neat trick, that."

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David P.

Dunc: That was Wayne Moss who played the great sixteenth-note guitar part on "I Want You". Al Kooper verified this is his book "Backstage Passes & Backstabbing Bastards" and in the liner notes to "No Direction Home". Mr. Kooper had this to say about Mr. Moss's playing on "I Want You":

"The first time he came up with that my jaw dropped -- not only for that lick, but for the effortlessness he played it with..."

In addition to his session work, Mr. Moss also operated Cinderella Studios outside of Nashville, where many artists have recorded over the years. He was also a prominent member of the groups Area Code 615 and Barefoot Jerry.

Mr. Kooper also pointed out that it was Joe South who played the soulful lead guitar licks on "Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again" and switched over to electric bass on "Visions Of Johanna".

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sadavid

Subject: ask Paul Prudhomme

Steve: although the Québecois version may well be different, Babelfish translates "cast-iron frying pan" as "poêle de fonte," which sounds about right. I googled the lyrics to "Gens du pays" (see [My link]) and it seems a sweet, sentimental thing with nary a mention of poêles of any sort.

There is a slight resonance with "Acadian Driftwood" (and Winwood / Capaldi "Many a Mile to Freedom") in:

Le temps de s'aimer, le jour de le dire

Fond comme la neige aux doigts du printemps

Fêtons de nos joies, fêtons de nos rires

Ces yeux ou nos regards se mirent

C'est demain que j'avais vingt ans

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Peter V

Bill M. Today was a vinyl collectors dream day. A shop I know had bought in a big box of singles. The owner said I could have first look at £1 each before he sorted and priced them (and put at least half in his 50p box). A treasure trove including Howlin’ Wolf (I Ain’t Superstitious), Lloyd Price, Johnny Kidd, Eddie Cochran, Ral Donner, B.B. King etc. Sitting among them, the only imported single in the entire box was “Ain’t Love A Funny Thing / All The Big Boys” (both F. Carter) by Robbie Lane & The Disciples on Hawk Records (HR-005), “Produced in Canada”. I assume Hawk Records was a Ronnie label?

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Steve

Did you follow any of the 6 String Nation Guitar project by Jowi Taylor? Great story, hard to believe a guitar could be made from such a disparate collection of objects( Pierre Trudeau's canoe paddle to Don Cherry's pants). Actually, Cherry's pants are used in the case.

The first performance using the guitar was by Stephen Fearing. It was then passed on to Colin and then Tom Wilson to be used to open concerts. If you don't know the story google it. Part of Rocket Richards first Stanley Cup trophy( no rings back then ), pieces of John Ware's cabin and Bluenose 2 made it in as well. The finished product sounds great.

Back to BARK. The song that follows How Long, Something On My Mind, has vocals ( the chorus I think)that always reminds me of Keith and Mick. Let's Frolic Again, the album that just keeps on giving. Sorry for all the ( I thinks)

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks Bob and Peter

Thanks very much. I appreciate the effort involved. The great thing about this GB is that people are always willing to give time and share their knowledge.

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bob w.

For the sake of conversation I do recall there is a bit of a "hiccup" in Dylan's delivery at the beginning of the line....."And because time was on his side" in the final verse. Interesting to wonder if Dylan simply chose to leave it there or if the expedient nature of the sessions left him no choice.

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Peter V

Think I’ll get outside and play some football now.

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Rod

Bill M, I'd love to think Richards's vocals are featured on BT but I can't really hear them - except maybe the "If I'm .." on the chorus.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks BEG

Forgot to say thanks BEG. Thank you. Enjoyed the read and downloaded 'Between Trains'.

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Dunc

Subject: Who's playing

Although I think I could identify Robbie from the playing on Planet Waves, (well I think I can, but maybe it's because I've got the sleeve notes in front of me)I couldn't say it's Robbie playing on 'I Want You' or indeed other Blonde on Blonde tracks.

I think the guitar playing on 'I Want You' is hauntingly beautiful - repetitive, yet not obtrusive. Rhythm guitar? In fact the track is beautifully played by all instruments - great drumming, keyboard and harmonica especially the crescendo at the end.

Quite often on 'I Want You' I forget to listen to the words,hope this is not sacreligious because the lyrics are great, but become engrossed in the music.

I've been doing my homework, but getting nowhere. But I did find out 'Blonde on Blonde' was nearly called 'I Want You'.

So David P, Bob W, Bill M, Peter V, Jeff, Jan H, Pat B, Ari or other expert put me out of my misery who's the guitarist playing on 'I Want You'? You're a guitarist Steve?

I'll take the answer from anyone - Levonista, Hudsonian, Robertsonian, Dankette, Manuelist or Bandito.

On holiday just now. After working hard with the grandkids, I've been sitting playing albums for a day and a half. Just as well I'm not still living with my mum or she'd be telling me to get outside and play football.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan - Bob Links - Olof's Yearly Chronicles - 1966. If this info is correct; Robbie missed the third session of BOB.

From Every Bob Dylan Song...

"And I know that there are going to be many of you partial to the Live 1966 version, where Dylan bites off his syllables with particular gusto and the acoustic accompaniment throws those lyrics into even sharper relief. But, to me, the studio version is one of his great accomplishments, the perfect melding of one of his greatest lyrics and a musical accompaniment that meshes to it with Superglue-like strength. I still remember one description of "Visions of Johanna"'s finest musical moment being that perfect little guitar lick after the "infinity goes on trial" line, and Robbie Robertson is certainly at his economical best on this song."

I missed Levon on Letterman this evening. How was it?

Good night....Goodbye....

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Friend0

Look at tha ISP addy. I never really knew if Bobby Gregg was from Chicago or if he lived there now, but knew his Chicago connections were strong and plentiful.

Thank You Pat, for bringing Bobby Gregg into the fold. Even if just for a brief , shining moment.

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Pat B

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Bobby Gregg

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Pat B

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Serenity

Don't forget that LEVON is on Dave Letterman tonight. CYA xoxoxo

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abby

Steve Earle's "The Mountain" is one of my favorites on Dirt Farmer. And I don't have Electric Dirt, but am glad to hear that Levon did some Randy Newman (I think that's what I picked up in my skimming tonite). It's fun to hear one of your old favorites doing songs of some of your other favorites. (new para) Steve Earle needs to shave that dogfreakin'gone beard, even if he does live in Woodstock. I'd rather see numerous chins than all that wild beardhair. Don't get me wrong - it looks marvelous on Garth, but Earle better shave it before the cruise or he's gonna be one hot, wierd-looking dude.

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joe j

Bill, I blundered on to the race. I seem to have some new TV channels and 'Score' carried the Woodbine races. I heard Whispering Pines introduced in the post parade and stayed glued to the set wishing desperately I had some money down.

The nag started quick, faded quicker but rallied to show.

Listen Bill. I got a little dough. Maybe I'll take a second mortgage. This could be real.

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Steve

Your request for the French equivalent of a "well oiled cast-iron frying pan" is not a simple as it might seem.

Well oiled frying pan is easy but cast-iron is the sinker.

I've asked two of my 3 bilingual and bi cultural kids and neither had any clue about cast-iron frying pan.

I thought for sure Katie would know. Her regular job is at a museum but she works part time as a cook at a restaurant which operates completely in french. But alas no cast iron frying pan work is done there. My last hope is Steve The Younger. If he doesn't know, his french girlfriend should. I love these adventures in French vocabulary.

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Peter V

The various session notes for Blonde on Blonde by Krosgaard in Dylan magazine "The Telegraph" etc were over-ruled by Al Kooper who stated what the ears make clear. Robbie was on Visions of Johanna. I'd have to look it up, but somewhere Robbie mentions stepping down the road to get some cigarettes (remember those?) and one particular track being done in his absence.

On BOB the current Mojo has a long and revealing Dylan interview (with a lot of humour in it). Randy Newman is listed as one of his favourite songwriters (along with Gordon Lightfoot, Jimmy Buffett).

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brown eyed girl

"Then, it's Richard Manuel over to the second set of drums (placed directly behind Levon for an interesting visual effect) while Bob goes to the piano for "Ballad of a Thin Man". Just like my RAH '66 boot!"

CONCERT REPORT:

Memphis TN

23 January 1974

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks Pat B

Thanks for taking the time Pat B. I've got 'Can I Please Crawl Out Of Your Window?' on A Musical History. Interestingly, I've been reading Al Kooper's thoughts on 'Knocked Out Loaded' today. Not a happy man.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks very much

Thanks for taking the time David and Ari. Would Robbie be playing on 'I Want You'?

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Pat B

Robbie is the only member of the Hawks who made the trip to Nashville. It wasn't until Planet Waves that the "Hawks" and Dylan recorded an album together.

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David P.

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Bill M

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Ari S.

I'm positive that Robbie played on Visions of Johanna and Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat. I know he played on more too, but I don't know about Rick.

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David P.

Dunc: Robbie & Rick played on the earlier New York sessions before Dylan decided to record in Nashville. "One Of Us Must Know..." was the only song from those N.Y. sessions included on the album. The confusion arises because Robbie & Al Kooper are the only musicians credited, in addition to the Nashville cats and Joe South, on the album.

"Rainy Day Women #12 & 35" b/w "Pledging My Time" was the big hit single, reaching #2 in Billboard. "I Want You" b/w "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" (live version recorded with the Hawks in Liverpool) reached #20. "Just Like A Woman" b/w "Leopard Skin Pill-Box Hat" only reached #33.

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Steve

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Dunc

Subject: Blonde on Blonde Help?

I've been playing Blonde on Blonde a lot.

Jan's site has Robbie and Rick playing on 'One of Us Must Know'. But I think it has been discussed before in the GB that Robbie played on more than one track. Or am I wrong?

Could one of my American friends tell me what tracks from the album were hit singles?

Pronunciation correct, Dlew.

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Joan

BEG: Thanks for the King of Comedy songs. As usual you are a "treasure trove"

I like to buy CDs. I enjoy reading the liner notes,looking at the artwork etc. I'm forced to buy online. We only have 2 stores left. One is mostly used CDs, the other is a 45 minute drive. I have to be really commited.

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David P.

When she was 18, Rosanne Cash's famous father became worried about his daughter's tastes in music. Like others her age she was listening to rock & pop, so her father gave her a list of "100 Essential Country Songs" for her to learn as an education in the traditions of the genre. In October Ms. Cash will release the album entitled "The List" which culls a dozen songs from her father's country syllabus. Included is a duet with Jeff Tweedy of Wilco on "Long Black Veil", which her father first recorded in 1965, six years after Lefty Frizzell's definitive version.

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Peter V

Was it tongue-in-cheek? I think so. Levon said:

"We knew it from Lefty Frizell’s version and liked the story of the young man who goes to the gallows for a murder he didn’t commit because his alibi was that he was “in the arms of his best friend’s wife.” I guess we thought it was funny." (Levon Helm)

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Brien Sz

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Jan F.

Regarding: . . .maybe we should suggest that anyone joining in the Electric Dirt discussion should scan their receipt . . . . . ., and then again there are those who sit in the corner shouting "Levon! Levon!" and "Take a Load off Fanny!" and who have everything on dubbed cassettes or CDRs given them by pals."

As most of the GB knows, I've been to several (five, I believe) Rambles and other Levon concerts (The Beacon, Charlottesville, VA). I will be attending the concert at Merriweather Post Pav. in Columbia, MD in August. I do this b/c I enjoy the music, but mainly b/c Levon is the only remaining member of THE BAND that performs live on a regular basis, and I do love hearing THE BAND songs.

Something that has irritated me beyond explanation is the people (usually behind me, drinking to much) who yell "DO DIXIE!!!" (or Cripple Creek, etc.) I went to the extreme at the Beacon show I attended in March of ’08 and told the guy behind me, “He is NOT going to do Dixie!” Now, I thought, well, if Levon does Dixie, then I’ll just say, “OK, I was wrong.” Wouldn’t bother me in the least. But those people drive me nuts – not just at Levon concerts, but others as well.

My point is, yes, there are people like that on this GB. I wish they would engage their brains before opening their mouths --- but, they probably aren’t reading this post anyway.

Jan F.

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Dee

Subject: Merci Beaucoup

BEG, Enjoyed Between Trains! Added it to my Favorites but really still would like a CD of Robbie singing his movie songs.

Ah...the good ol' War of 1812. Like the Overture and can sing a bit of "In 1814 we took a little trip along with Col. Jackson down the Missisip". Would like the latter more if I didn't also remember the Trail of Tears.

Six

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David P.

Bill M: I'm not sure if they took a tongue-in-cheek approach, but I think they did the song justice. One thing I noticed recently, while listening to the MFSL SACD version, is that it sounds like some sort of baritone horn was used that I don't recall seeing credited.

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Bill M

Joe J: Does Whispering Pines the racehorse have its own site, or are you now closely monitoring the goings-on at Woodbine?

dlew: That Celine Dion apparently - judging by the video - intended her version as a farce rescues here from the bad-covers sweepstakes, it seems to me. Think Weird Al - or maybe Sacha Baran Cohen.

That reminds me, what do you and others think of our guys' cover of "Long Black Veil", which they seem to seen as a farcical song to begin with?

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dlew919

I'm sure Dunc will tell you much more authoritatively than me, but even though it looks like 'lean' (to rhyme with 'keen'), it's pronounced 'mclean' (to rhyme with 'pain'): so you heard him right. I think it's only the toothpaste that calls it 'McClean' ... (I speak as one with very strong Scottish roots, though 4 gen Aus...)

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Kevin J

The Letterman folks have been known to insist that artists perform one of their classic tunes over something from a new release….it wasn’t always like this ( certainly not in the great old days of his 12:30 show ) but has sadly been the case over the last 10 years or so…….let’s hope Levon and gang are allowed to play something from Electric Dirt…….You would think so given it is The Levon Helm Band and not The Band but I recall even Pete Townsend having to play a Who song some years back even while there to promote a new release……

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David P.

Fourteen years ago tonight, the Grateful Dead, with The Band as an opening act, played their final concert at Soldier Field in Chicago. Exactly one month later, on August 9th, 1985, Jerry Garcia died. It's interesting to note that the Dead's set that night included a cover of "When I Paint My Masterpiece".

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brown eyed girl

Shutter Island Trailer....

"Another thing is that if you look at the credits on the official site, there's no music composer listed, just Robbie Robertson as "Music Supervisor". So if they're just going to use period songs (1950's, I think) instead of a traditional thriller or Bernard Herrmann-type score, it will separate itself from the pack in that way as well."

Posted by: lazarus at June 11, 2009 05:43 PM

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David P.

Subject: From Into The Mystic River To Shutter Island

Robbie's latest collaboration with Martin Scorsese was as music supervisor for "Shutter Island". The film is based on a novel by Dennis Lehane, who also wrote "Mystic River" and "Gone, Baby, Gone", both also successfully adapted into films. Since "Shutter Island" is set in the year 1954, it will be interesting to hear what songs Robbie has chosen for the soundtrack. Early reports on the film, featuring Leonardo Dicaprio, Ben Kingsley & Mark Ruffalo, have been quite positive.

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Peter V

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Rod

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Peter V

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Zzzz

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Lars

Subject: John McLean

POSTSCRIPT- After my last post, I read it in the GB and I apologize for misspelling the McLean name (I mistakenly wrote "McLane"). My only excuse is that it SOUNDED like "McLane" when he bragged about himself.

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brown eyed girl

The Levon Helm Band @ Fitzgerald Theater

Submitted by Josh Keller and Jon Behm on June 13, 2009 – 3:46 pm

Photos and Review

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joe j

If you had Whispering Pines to show at the fifth race at Woodbine today you should get the next round.

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Lars

Subject: "American Pie"

Everybody in this GB has probably heard this story fifty times, so one more time won't hurt you. Some reporter asked Don McLean what "American Pie" was really about. This was a long time ago, but I seem to remember Don responded, "'American Pie' means that I'll never have to go out and work for a living."

When I was a kid, I met Don McLane at a hunting camp my father belonged to. Of couse, back then, when he was around 14, he was just some real quiet kid from New Rochelle and his Uncle John (who they called "the Colonel") was one of ten members of the hunting lodge we were in. It wasn't hunting season, we just went up for a weekend. Since I had no reason to pay any attention to him, I just remember he was a bit chubby and had a wave in his hair and he never mentioned music once. Over the years, the Colonel told me about his progress in the music world. He told me he helped his nephew get his career going with some of his money. Knowing the Colonel, he was probably lying. Maybe not. The old boy was a distant relative to the McLane's who owned the Hope Diamond, back after WW2. He was the owner of McLane Trucking in Maybrook, NY and he lived on a nice farm in Orange County.

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bob w.

"Bob W, maybe we should suggest that anyone joining in the Electric Dirt discussion should scan their receipt for its purchase and send it in. You know, there are the fans who actually buy the records, and then again there are those who sit in the corner shouting "Levon! Levon!" and "Take a Load off Fanny!" and who have everything on dubbed cassettes or CDRs given them by pals."

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bob w.

Subject: Editing MP3 File Tags

bassman, I hope this link helps. Hope you are doing well.

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dlew919

a list was done through survey some months back - topping the list was celine dion's 'you shook me all night long', but I think there's a special place in hell for madonna's 'american pie'. I heard roy buchanan do 'stormy monday' on the radio: too many notes.

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Peter M.

Subject: BEG

WOW! Between Trains ! Thanks.

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brown eyed girl

"Play It and Be Damned"

A Blog About Music and Stuff

The "King Of Comedy" 1983...downloads again for those who missed before...

Robbie's "Between Trains"and Van's "Wonderful Remark" and B.B. King's "Tain't Nobody's Bizness" (If I Do)....all vinyl rips. I already had these songs on cassette and I found BT on another site long ago.

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Peter V

On a previous subject, in my searches among moribund 45s, I turned up Roy Buchanan’s “Rescue Me” in pristine condition for 50p. I got home and put it on eagerly, and it’s so far beyond awful it’s not true. However technically proficient the guitar solo might be it’s hilariously misguided and inappropriate. An example of technical proficiency with absolutely no taste and so far wrong for the song. I’d rate it among “worst cover versions ever.”

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Bill M

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Bill M

Steve (and Bassmanlee, assuming you have "Let's Frolic Again"): Did you ever notice the similarity of the snakey lead guitar buried in the middle of "How Long" to RanBach's work on "American Woman"?

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bassmanlee

Well, we've gone and joined the dark side. Since summer is here and there is a shiny new recumbent bike in the garage, a more convenient portable music system has become a priority. Juggling the old Discman and CDs on a bike is not much fun. Hence the shiny new little Sansa Fuze sitting on my desk. Now I only have to figure out which of the many (many) CDs in the back room get digitized. Using the 190 kbs rate that is the lowest Media Player will let me use, it's surprising how quickly the disk is filling up. The Fuze takes microSD memory cards, so now we will be collecting those. Tomorrow we tackle Our Boys. Today was experiments with various other faves.

One weird thing happened though. Wherever Windows gets its album info, it decided that BOTH disks of BARK's Kings Of Love were disk 1. So even though I changed the titles and directory name, the titles for disk 1 appear twice, once for the real song, and once for the song on disk 2 with the analogous track position on disk 1. Anyone know of a way to edit the tags on an mp3 file to correct this?

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Calvin

Do I think it makes an artist mean-spirited? That's probably a bit strong as I think its more or less part of doing business now. But it is very short sighted of the record company and artists.

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Peter V

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sadavid

Subject: to the movie matinee

Past and future of the Oscars' 'Best Original Song' category. Cameo from Marty.

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Peter V

Tony, sorry, but that’s just how I feel about buying an album at full price and finding I haven’t bought the whole thing. As I said, I’d happily cough up extra for the bonus tracks, but I think it’s terrible to expect fans to buy the whole album twice. I think that is mean-spirited, yes. What would you call it? I also think it’s short-sighted to be putting another nail in the coffin of independent record stores (who supported artists like Levon in the years when the majors didn’t) and it’s short-sighted weaning the diehard fans from their completist habit. I’ve sought out every track until now, including “The Staying Together” OST, Summertime Blues on 45 etc. I felt affronted by the bonus tracks, especially as you only get one on British iTunes but two on US iTunes. I can’t buy off US iTunes, because the sales are region blocked. Pissed off? Mightily, yes.

Have a look at other websites and all artists (deservedly) get this stick over bonus tracks. Also, until I brought this up and started some kind of discussion, a week had passed discussing football with barely a mention of Electric Dirt from anyone (except David P.) All publicity is good publicity!

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Bill M

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Kevin J

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Bill M

And remember that Robbie's mother was a Crysler. (Please, no jokes about "My Mother The Car".)

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Pat B

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Kevin J

Just read the review of the Levon Helm and John Prine show at the Red Rock Amphitheatre……..the review includes some great photo’s…..seems to be a really special venue…..the review also touches on the subject of cover songs and how – in a peculiar twist – sometimes a cover version is so good that it becomes definitive….so much so that when you hear the writer perform the song it almost seems wrong…..All Along the Watchtower and Angels of Montgomery are cited as two good examples………….....Me and Bobby McGee is another that springs to mind....

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Bill M

Subject: helping Pat B plan his weekend

Pat B: The link's to a news release titled "Upper Canada Village Welcomes Hundreds Of War Of 1812 Re-Enactors".

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David P.

Levon is scheduled to appear on David Letterman's Late Show on CBS tomorrow night.

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Bill M

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Ari S.

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Tony

"Levon is both mean-spirited and short sighted" Real nice Peter, Thanks!! Ari S. Call LHS on the 18th and we will see if we can squeeze you in. 845-679-2744

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Steve

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Simons

Always here

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damien murray

Just want to say thank you for all the great music and the last waltz is played at my house weekly. Great music. To levon,robbie and garth :thank you, r.I.p rick and Richard. Your music will live on. Thanks

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Claire

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Jan F.

Subject: trying to work . . .

oops, meant to say Abby - JG already accounted for . . .

JF

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Joan

Yes! As always, you get right to the point. Well said.

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Jan F.

Bob W - answer to your question is: No, didn't have anything to do with extra tracks, etc. It was about the July 5 birthday boy.

But that's probably about it unless Claire and JG are lurking about.

J.F.

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S.M.

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David P.

Listening to the Mobile Fidelity SACD version of "Music From Big Pink" with its sonic revelations has reminded me of how great The Band's ensemble approach to music was. On the surface they sounded so efortlessly smooth in the way they blended together, giving each other space without stepping on each other's toes. Upon closer listening, however, one can hear the intricate layers of instruments & voices.

At the time of its release, I can vividly recall being amazed by Robbie's seemingly subtle approach to guitar, in an era when most guitarists were into serious shredding. Having perfected that more agressive approach earlier with Ronnie Hawkins and Dylan, Robbie stood apart as he crafted new guitar sounds that supported, rather than contrasted, with the structure of the songs. The other day, as I listened to "Chest Fever" on the MFSL version of MFBP, I focussed on the way Robbie's lead guitar part meshed perfectly with Garth's strong organ lines.

When I go back to the music of The Band it becomes easy to remember why I continue to visit this guestbook. It's the joyful sounds of five skilled musicians playing & singing together that matters, not the dischord of discussing & debating about who was most responsible for the group's success and later demise.

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Jersey Girl

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Kevin J

By the way, Three Dog Night came to mind while watching Stevie Wonder do the great “Never Dreamed You’d Leave in Summer” yesterday……apropos to nothing but is Wolf Blitzer not the dimmest of bulbs to ever appear on network television – a low bar – I know but really……….flipping on the tube last night and he turns to one of his colleagues and says “people forget just how good a dancer Michael Jackson was….he really could dance couldn’t he?.... Gee Wolf, your network has spent 2 weeks 24 hour a day showing nothing but dance clips…I wonder if anyone on the planet didn’t realize the man could dance? Judging by the news coverage – not only could the man dance but his death single handedly ended the revolution in Iran!!!!!!

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Kevin J

Subject: Grateful

Three Dog Night cover Chest Fever......when the royalty cheques came in.... grateful was a word that came to mind - I am sure.

I still remember buying albums when the ads for cd's would be promoting bonus tracks......finally started buying cd's and realized that 8-9 songs per release was perfect....the extra songs added to cd's were almost always useless filler........

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bob w.

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Bill M

sadavid: Are you sure that your urge to sing along with Richard was not a subconscious ploy to avoid being tagged with dishwashing duties in the future?

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Steve

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bob w.

"In going along with this, Levon is both mean-spirited and short sighted."

I didn't hear any objections from you. I always find it strange that these statements regarding Robbie crop up out of nowhere every few weeks without any real provocation while statements like that one are deemed appropriate. It is an odd dynamic that has existed here for a long time.

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Jan F.

Ari & Deb, Yep.

BEG, I didn't see any point in wishing Robbie a happy b'day here as (a cleaned up version) of what my Daddy used to say, "It would have been like spitting into the wind."

J.F.

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sadavid

Subject: know you got it

See [My link] for a _Mix_ magazine article on the recording of "Piece of My Heart" (Big Brother & the Holding Company). Cameos by Simon, Grossman et al..

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Deb

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Steve

Subject: Birthday Wishes

Mon cher Robbie

C'est a ton tour

De te laisser parler d'amour

Mon cher Robbie

C'est a ton tour

De te laisser parler d'amour

Anyone who knows the Nationalist movement here in The Nation within a Nation ( NB to nb) will recognize that the above birthday wishes have been adopted from Gilles Vigneault's "Gens Du Pays", The Nation Within A Nation's, unofficial national anthem written in 1975. The chorus has been adopted as a popular birthday wish/song.

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Steve

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Rod

There are a couple of tracks on ED that seem to be unfortunate throw backs to Levon's early 80's releases. Calvary and The Mountain are the same and I usually skip through them when listening to Dirt Farmer.

Have you seen Barrack Obama talking about Michael Jackson?Reminds me of Robbie saying "the road has taken alot of the great ones - Janis, Elvis ..........". Cool dude.

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dlew919

Dave Gilmour once wrote to a guitar magazine which accused him (not knowing it was him playing, I guess) of 'ripping off' a Floyd solo - he was going ot 'sue himself'. Of course, John Fogerty had to at one point, I seem to remember...

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Dunc

Subject: Buying CDs

I was up in Glasgow yesterday spending CD tokens. (The family know what to get me for my birthday.) A striking display of Electric Dirt CDs as I went into Fopp. Fopp, although owned by HMV, always seems innovative and great prices. The Band - AMH single CD was selling for £3.

At HMV there was a new Levon Helm section. I didn't buy Electric Dirt because I'll get it from the smaller local shop because I know he'll buy a copy for me. I'm disappointed that not all tracks are available on the CD. It's not the money, it's the inconvenience.

Yesterday I bought Elvis the King, a 'new' greatest hits. I needed an Elvis greatest hits. I love Teddy Bear. Everybody needs an Elvis greatest hits. There were some of those tracks on 78 rpm in my house when I was young. I hope you've got a copy ARI? Sadly, as a relative latecomer, I have to agree with you.

The best of The Only Ones. Great album. Peter Perrett -a real study in self destruction.

Knocked Out Loaded Bob Dylan. Never owned that before. Still to play it.

Two disc version of Tell Tale signs, down to £14.

Crazy Horse at the Fillmore 1970.

The Band with several bonus tracks on it for a young friend who gave me a JJ Gilmore(ex Silencers)album. I've told him that its the greatest album by a band of all time. We can all agree on that, n'est-ce pas?

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Peter V

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Ari S.

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brown eyed girl

ALBUM REVIEW

Levon Helm Electric Dirt

By JBev

JamsBio Magazine

July 2nd, 2009

"…when [Helm's voice] cracks on its way skyward, you can feel the intense longing of a wounded soul or the sudden grace of one that has been rescued."

I did not buy "ED" or "Electric Mud". I did however download the two songs I really enjoyed from the recording. Today in one of our used music stores; imagezulu noticed someone bought a copy.

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Bill Kiely

Subject: Welcome back

It's really great to find this website again. I use it so much in finding out what's happening with the BAND members, and what projects they are involved with. Been collecting them since they were Levon & The Hawks, and have most of everything to do in Records & CD's

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brown eyed girl

The Band - Rag Mama Rag (Alternate Vocal Take - Rough Mix)

"The alternate version of “Rag Mama Rag” was included on an expanded CD edition of The Band. It’s kind of fun to hear something so familiar sound so different."

Posted by whiteray at 12:11 PM July 3, 2009.

Jan F...I'm sure one day Robbie's birthday will be posted on The Band's What's New as well....well maybe sometimes. Three Band fans recognized his birthday in anycase.

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Gene

What's the big deal... you want the extra tracks, pay for them. If not, don't. No need to demonize anybody, it's business. No need to whine.

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Friend0

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David P.

The Band's cover of Dylan's "When I Paint My Masterpiece" was released about a month before Dylan's version appeared on his Greatest Hits Vol. 2 in late 1971. Dylan's original, recorded with Leon Russell and friends was recorded first, if I'm not mistaken -- so the subsequent Band version is indeed a cover. Levon's covers of Muddy Waters on "Electric Dirt" are both less well known songs from Muddy's catalog. I double-checked the recording info contained in the 1989 Chess Muddy Waters box set booklet. Although "Stuff You Gotta Watch" was recorded in December 1951, it wasn't released until 1982 when it was included on the Chess LP compilation "Rare And Unissued". The personel featured on that recording included Muddy's great '50s band -- Little Walter on harmonica, Jimmy Rogers on guitar and Elgin Evans on drums. "You Can't Lose What You Ain't Never Had" was recorded in April 1964 and released as a single. It was also later included on the 1971 LP compilation "McKinley Morganfield A.K.A. Muddy Waters".

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Steve

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sadavid

Subject: layin' the odds

I got stuck with the dirty dishes yesterday, and I had a powerful sudden hankering to hear "Acadian Driftwood" - possibly an unconscious identification with the "walking in chains" imagery. So I put on _Northern Lights - Southern Cross_ and had a wonderful time. As usual, I felt compelled to help Richard thru "Hobo Jungle."

All of which is à propos of the very latest thing in alternative vacationing - see [My link].

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Peter V

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Kevin J

Above link to an article in today's Toronto Star on Jeff Beck....I wish I had known he was at the Montreal Jazz fest....one of the great Jazz/Music Fest's on this planet - by the way......well worth travelling to for any of our US friends looking for a great place to spend some time - I believe it is always the first 2 weeks of July.

Electric Dirt: I loved Dirt Farmer.....still feeling out the new one...more in a week or so.........

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Serenity

DAVID P: He was a radio icon for sure.

Some sad news for a Canadian DJ. May he RIP.

Former Toronto radio host, popular alt-rock DJ Martin Streek dead at 45

TORONTO - Former Toronto radio host and popular alt-rock DJ Martin Streek has died.

He was 45.

Former colleagues at the Edge 102.1 say Streek passed away Monday.

Streek developed a strong following as the former host of the station's countdown show and for his live broadcasts from local clubs.

He worked at the Edge for about 20 years, but was let go earlier this year.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Ari S.

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David P.

Serenity: Sirius/XM satellite radio replays Mr. Kasem's Top 40 countdown shows from the '70s & '80s.

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Steve

Peter, we've been through this before. When I Paint My Masterpiece, is also an example of the Band doing a better cover than the original.

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Serenity

After 39 years, DJ Casey Kasem does his final weekly countdown of top hits

LOS ANGELES - Casey Kasem has done his final countdown.

The 77-year-old DJ told "American Top 20" listeners across the United States Saturday that the program would be his last.

Kasem launched his weekly countdown of the most popular songs, the "American Top 40," on July 4, 1970. Ryan Seacrest took over the show in 2004 and Kasem went on to host two syndicated spinoffs, the "American Top 20" and "American Top 10."

Kasem said he "loved every minute" of his broadcasting career but that he was leaving the show to "free up time I need to focus on myriad other projects."

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Peter V

The Band also did Louisiana 1927 in a 1987 show from New Orleans where they did Kingfish. As both tracks come from Good Old Boys, I can’t imagine that the more obvious irony in Rednecks and Baltimore had escaped anyone. Rednecks and Kingfish share a “signature” Randy Newman melodic style too. I would have thought it had to be a conscious choice to sing it straight, probably because irony isn’t Levon’s natural style, and because he knows his accent carries the message anyway by doing it straight. This sort of story is “acting a role” as well as singing, which is one of Levon’s strengths from The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down, Cripple Creek, King Harvest etc. You know you’re acting a role, so you choose how to interpret it. In fact, I think the acting-out approach fails in “The Growing Trade” in almost exactly the way it failed in “Caves of Jericho.” At first listen it appears to be great Band-style narrative song, then it doesn’t quite make it.

The end result though is that I like Levon’s take on “Kingfish” and particularly love Toussaint’s horn arrangement, but I prefer the original. But that’s almost always true with covers done by The Band / its members. Atlantic City being the exception that proves the rule.

Blues … I’m going to surprise everyone by saying I reckon “Stuff You Gotta Watch” works on Electric Dirt, because it’s been stripped down and done so differently. BUT I think the album would be greatly improved by the loss of You Can’t Lose What You Ain’t Got (especially) AND The Staples Move Along Train. These are exactly the sort of songs Levon failed to sell in the thirty odd years between The Last Waltz and Dirt Farmer. Dirt Farmer was a major change of focus. These two (both done superbly, obviously) are a return to the stuff that didn’t set the world alight.

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Joan

I've become very philosophical in my "old age" I try to take the attitude that if I didn't know there were bonus tracks out there that I don't have, would I still be happy? If the answer is "yes" then Its OK. If given a choice I'd buy the one with the tracks if the opportunity presented, but either way its all good.

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David P.

I guess I'm in the minority who appreciate Levon's reworking of Muddy Waters' classics. Keep in mind that Muddy Waters, Willie Dixon and other Chess recording artists were finally able to wrest control of their publishing from others around the late '70s. So, in a way, recording their songs pays real tribute to their legacies and brings a little bit of economic reward to their heirs at the same time.

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Bill M

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joe j

I picked up on 'Rockin Chair' on Q as I was waiting for the dentists chair. Highlight of the day so far. Had to miss the Sonic Youth interview though. Compensated by playing their version of 'I'm Not There' on the way home. Heresy or not I find it preferable to the Dylan/Band version.

Still waiting on my copy of 'Electric Dirt'. I have to admit the inclusion of 'Stuff You Gotta Watch' was a little unsettling. Maybe Levon figured he missed the mark the first time but that it was worth redoing.

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Bill M

Fred: Sad state of affairs, eh? I've always said that philately will get you nowhere, and now you pretty much have to beg to get a single stamp.

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David P.

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Steve

Jian Ghomeshi, of Q fame, never misses a chance to make a Band reference. A few minutes ago while talking about today's Michael Fest in LA said he would play a song to set the mood for the affair and then played Rocking Chair. When it ended he said," Ah, that song always gets me".

Now if some of you guys would get behind my "Get Garth On Q" campaign we could have an hour of The Band According To Garth.

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Pat B

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David P.

Pat: I haven't heard them but I believe there were a couple bonus tracks on the MP3 download version of "A Musical History". The Amazon site lists a 2005 remix of "The Weight" with overdubs and a live version of "I Shall Be Released" from the 1971 Royal Albert Hall concert.

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Jan F.

Hey Peter, Watch out with those parentheses as that's my shtik, along with . . . . .

I think you once posted that bonus tracks/demos/song sketches were OK except you didn't care to hear the artist read their grocery lists, right? I think that pretty much sums it up.

Charlie, One of the Borders in Rockville closed right after Christmas and had a big sale - fixtures and all. Now the one closest to our house is in Germantown, MD and seems to have better selection since the other location closed. Mr. Steve and I are usually still willing to make the pilgrimage to College Park, MD to CDepot for most of our music.

Can't wait for Robbie's new album. I'm sure as soon as the promo info is available Jan will post it prominently on the home page of the THE BAND site.

J.F.

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sadavid

Randy Newman is always ironic; Levon Helm is never ironic. I'd guess that Levon's people overwhelmingly saw Long as a hero and a champion, and said as much around the kitchen table.

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Fred

bonus tracks on a CD : if they are there, fine; if not, no big deal.

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Fred

Bill M: thanks for that heads up on the stamps. I'll have to get one of the internet illiterate relatives to send a postcard.

As for bonus tracks....I prefer if they are live tracks or an occasional demo (aka "song sketch" in Bandland).

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Brien Sz

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bob w.

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jeroen

Subject: dear bandmembers

dear bandmembers, I watched 'the Last Waltz' yesterday, (I think for the 25th time...) & I just wanna say thank you So Much for your music. & keep on keepin' on & stay forever young. that's all... greatings from Holland

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Peter V

Van bonus tracks were usually along the lines of “plus Cleaning Windows, live at the Blackpool Tower Ballroom, three weeks ago” which is nice enough, but to even the strongest fan, dispensable. There are other live recordings. If you fall for that one (and I always did) you only have yourself to blame.

Levon’s album has two unreleased tracks. That’s Alright (at least) sounds in the same style as (most) of Electric Dirt. That’s the sort of bonus stuff you want. A version of Caldonia or Don’t Ya Tell Henry (one of Dylan’s duller songs) at last month’s Ramble would be (very) easy to pass on.

Sorry the brackets (parentheses) key seems to be switching itself on (a lot ) today.

There are many things worth discussing. Kingfish has a fabulous horn arrangement, but going back to Randy Newman, the Randy version is sung with insiduous irony. Kingfish (or Huey Long) is often held as an example of potential fascism in 1930s America, like Moseley’s brownshirts in England. Randy Newman knew that and it underlies the whole song. You can feel the Kingfish's oily manipulation, his greasy claim to be one of the (good old) boys. Levon sings the song straight without irony. I noticed that on the Band live versions from the early 90s too. Maybe that’s just more ironic. I don’t know.

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Serhio

Good day, everyone!

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Ari S.

I got my copy of Electric Dirt June 30th as I had preordered it. It's ok. I really like Tennessee Jed. When I Go Away has some really call and response voice weaving.

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dlew919

As I mentioned before, I'll probably not buy till I see it down here on CD, though (despite Peter's misgivings), I just might download it from iTunes. I've never really been one for 'first day purchases' - I'd rather see what is wroth owning - David P's comments were enough for me, in this case.

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JQ

Charlie Y - I saw Electric Dirt advertised on TV! It was actually a commercial for Target or one of them but still its focus was Levon and (I think) it was a national ad.

Has anybody here ever listened to Electric Mud? As I recall when it came out it was dissed as an exploitative mess produced by Marshall Chess's asshole son.

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JQ

I got mine on Friday & I've been well stuck-in since. There's always been talk here about the post-TLW Band & its paucity of original material. That's true technically and although their covers can be original & terrific too for me the 2 Muddy Waters tracks are the two weakest on the record. But, (& he is in the new band) Larry Campbell's original: When I Go Away is my favorite track so far. I like the choice and arrangement of I Wish I Knew How It Feels To Be Free a lot too. Kingfish sent me right back to listen to Good Ol Boys, which has totally held up after 35 years. And Golden Bird is up there on my list of great sad songs now; Levon just makes it hurt worse.

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bob w.

No problem responding here. Maureen and I had agreed when I went out to California that we would head back east in a few years. My Dad passed away while I was there. My Mom is still with us as is Maureen's. We wanted to be available to them to help in any way possible. Not to mention my kids, grandkids, and brothers and sisters on both sides here in Pennsylvania. The travel between coasts has become more difficult and more expensive every day. It was time.

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Pat B

Why back in PA? Email me privately if you want.

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bob w.

Been back since November of last year.

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Pat B

When did you move back to PA?

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bob w.

As for bonus tracks....If Robbie ever gets that next disc out we'll get to see his take on the matter. Based on the Band compilations he has worked on I'm thinking it won't be much different than we're seeing from everyone else. The goddamn completists are playing right into their hands and then carping about it? ;-)

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Charlie Y

Subject: Dirt Cheap

I was shocked--shocked I tell you--to see Levon's new one for sale at COSTCO of all places. Their CD selection is very small these days, usually just the top of the pop charts. Clearly, someone in their offices knows good music. I'd already bought my copy, though. Please add my name to the list of people pissed off about those exclusive iTunes tracks.

Jan: my local Borders now had an extremely tiny CD section with most at ridiculously high list prices. They did have some great deals while clearing out their old (and now departed) fixtures, though.

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Steve

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Calvin

The worst though was a few years back when Rickie Lee Jones released an album with different bonus tracks available at different outlets. Now that did a lot more than annoy me.

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Peter M.

Subject: Dirt

I got my preordered Electric Dirt by mail from LHS on July 1st. I'm quite happy with it. Took me several days to savor a couple of songs at a time. I wouldn't mind two more songs, but whenever I listen to downloads my son has, I don't like the sound quality. Compression?

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Joe Frey

Music Direct is accepting preorders for a hybrid SACD of Cahoots, remastered by Mobile Fidelity. joe

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Peter V

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Peter V

Van was always a terrible grasper with bonus tracks though, with the "two CD singles with different B-sides" trick (which also used to be use to hype higher chart placings). Much discussed in Van land, and universally criticized there too.

With CDs, the Japanese will insist on bonus tracks to stop importing from outside, and there are quite a few CDs with two Japanese bonus tracks, one European bonus track and no American bonus tracks.

It is not a commendable practice. Many artists have been criticized on fansites for following it. Levon deserves the same criticism. The least he could do is sell the tracks on his own site. I say this as someone who bought every one of his solo LPs new, every one of his CDs new, and also never copied any of them for friends. I'm very happy to shell out 79p a track for the two bonus ones. I just don't want have to buy Stuff You Gotta Watch again to get them!

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David P.

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Peter V

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Bill M

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bob w.

Subject: Bush-Whacked

Landmark, the Eagles have managed Reggie Bush pretty well. I held out hope for quite a while that someone would hit George Bush that hard.

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Jan F.

Subject: Got Electric Dirt?

Not me. Mr. Steve might buy one, but he went CD shopping twice this past weekend and Levon didn't make the cut . . . new Wilco, everything Little Feat ever did (that we didn't already have), Lucinda Williams, and some very early Emmylou. Borders has lots of stuff for $6.99 -- can't get most used CDs around here for that amount of $$.

J.F.

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Peter V

The thing is, this sort of approach exploits the completists … the hard-core fans who buy everything. It’s pissing on your greatest supporters. Interesting that this is the first discussion of any kind on a major Band-related album that’s been out for a full week. I am assuming that everyone here has a copy. Or not?

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Serenity

LEVON will be on Dave Letterman on Thursday.

This is a snipit from my newsletter. Thought it was kinda funny.

This Week In Dave History

Former Band member Levon Helm was scheduled to appear on LATE NIGHT during the first week of January 1983, but couldn't make it due to truck trouble.

BILL M: re: "Whispering Pines" book on Canadian song writing? I'm familiar with Wilf Carter. I remember his "There's a Love-Knot In My Lariat". He sure could yodel. Also Bob Nolan of the Sons Of The Pioneers. I went to almost all Roy Rogers movies. Loved Bob's voice, and who could forget his, "Tumbling Tumbleweeds". These guys bring back memories for me. Thanx for the mention.

Our local TV channel [via CTV] had Stompin" Tom Connors last week in his special. I saw him live many moons ago, and he hasn't changed one iota.

DEE: Good music choice. It is a beautiful song. I want it played at my funeral music.

You were mentioning heroes? "Dateline" last night had a wonderful show on heroes. This show should be repeated again.

BEG: I "still dig" ROBBIE too. That will never change.

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Bill M

Steve: See that? NB coming to the T-dot to see his Fredship in late Aug. Just days after your chum David Francey is booked to play in the same club. Maybe you should come here for la toute semaine?

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Northern Boy

Northern Girl and I are definitely coming to TO for the final week in Aug. We'll get tickets for Fred while we're in the process of booking everything else, providing your Munsonage will be there to take in the show with us. Otherwise, we might catch Fred at one of three BC gigs he's doing. If you have BEG's email address, feel free to get mine through her. I'll give her a heads up to that effect. I'd love it if she'd join us too, though I'm not sure she's as big a Fred fan as NG is. (Norm's another source for my email address but he's gone 2C at the moment.) NB

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Brien Sz

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Bill M

Sorry Landmark. Maybe it was Steve, though it's hard to imagine him and his sputtering old MF being welcome at such a hip gig. Or maybe it was Kevin himself working up to an anecdote.

I picked up the "Whispering Pines" book I mentioned a couple of times last week. I suggest that others seriously consider doing the same, not that it is or does what it purports to do/be (a study of Cdn songwriting). What it does do well is shed some light on a whole bunch of people - Bob Nolan, Wilf Carter, Bonnie Dobson, etc. - while at the same time providing some really interesting stories and details about the better known. How 'bout this scene from the mouth of Mary Martin, who was not only a hugely influential early supporter of our guys, but also Leonard Cohen's manager in 1966:

"I really didn't know what I was doing, but I knew that one had to have some kind of tape in order to make some kind of decent presentation to the various record companies. So I made Leonard come to my apartment on Bleecker Street and I made him sing his songs in the bathtub into my little tape recorder. Then I called Garth Hudson and asked him if he would be able to make lead sheets from these tapes in order to copyright the songs, so Garth did that and they were masterpieces of calligraphy. Leonard's songs were not what you might call short, but Garth was ever so diligent ..." Plus, the book begins and ends at TLW. (I'm still reading it, and there's much more.)

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Steve

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David P.

What's the big deal? Exclusive bonus tracks are commonplace nowadays, through Amazon & iTunes, as well as through big brick & mortar retailers such as Best Buy & Wal-Mart. Remember the Band tribute "Endless Highway" album from a couple years ago. There were four different versions with differing bonus tracks contignent upon where it was purchased. I admit it's maddening for the consumer, but the record labels have adapted this as a business model for promotion.

Since the record labels usually strike these deals, I don't know how this works for Levon, since I believe he has some sort of independent deal with distribution through Vanguard.

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Kevin J

Steve: My only memory of the Ordinary Superstar was that he was famous for going backwards (last 10 yards or so) into the end zone on punt returns…..and that he was an extremely flamboyant personality……zany shall we say?

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Steve

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Peter V

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Landmark

Bill I never said I met Jack August, though I do remember Moonquake. I do remember Johnny Rogers who graced the Alouettes backfield for several seasons before going to San Diego to finish his career. He was a fun one to watch. He was more exciting losing five yards than gaining ten. Today's equivalent would be Reggie Bush of the Saints. I'm waiting for him to crap out in New Orleans so he can come be a "third-down" back for the Giants. I know that Bob W. is licking his chops at that thought but he'll find a way to burn the Eagles while bending over for the rest of the league.

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Dee

Subject: BEG and SERENITY

BEG: Thanks for the great words and pic of Robbie! Added to my collection.

Serenity: Added Shine Your Light to my favorites list.

Today, a couple hundred firefighters are in Cudahy, Wisconsin trying to put out a very big fire at the Patrick Cudahy meat packing plant. It started around 10 pm yesterday (13 1/2 hours ago). Ammonia fumes are an issue so residential evacuations were done. Firefighters are indeed heroes.

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Brien Sz

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Bill M

Fred: From a July 2 press release from Canada Post: "Today, Canada Post issued a quartet of stamps to celebrate the efforts of four musicians who made remarkable contributions to the Canadian music scene: international rock superstar Bryan Adams, renowned folklorist Stompin’ Tom Connors, pioneer in French-Canadian rock, Robert Charlebois, and Acadian singing sensation Édith Butler."

Plus, CBC Radio played Tom's "The Ballad Of Stompin' Tom" on the drive-home show on Friday.

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Bill M

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Peter V

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Kevin J

Subject: Moonquake - Great song!!!!!

Bill M: The above link is the Moonquake song that I loved as a kid.....still sounds great.....also one of my favorite album covers ever! Youtube really is something else!!!! Found this by accident looking for a song that Jack August had done with a famous US college football player ( Heisman Trophy winner ) Johnny Rodgers. The song was called "Ordinary Superstar" which was the players nickname......Rodgers was one of those US college players who decided top play in Canada rather than the NFL........

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Bill M

dlew: Four weeks before they changed sports in gym class? I couldn't have hacked it. Christ, it was all I could do to last a week in the box-horse lineup, continually giving up my spot. Didn't have to jump once - well, maybe a basic wussy one before I learned to say "After you, Alphonse". Ditto with the high jump - what me, risk my neck just to go over a stick? Floor gymnastics was safer. While everyone around me hurt themselves trying to cartwheel, I'd kneel on the mat and attempt a handstand every time the teacher (NB: Mr Latorcai or Mr Johnston) looked my way.

Lars: Your skating on thin ice, linking the Norwegians and the Swedes so tightly.

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Duke Mantee

Subject: Goin' Back to Alabama/It Makes No Difference/Remedy

Wondering if anyone knows where I can find a good older audio version of The Band, Rick or Levon doing "Goin' Back to Alabama", "It Makes No Difference" and/or "Remedy". Also what happened to the Audio and Video Clips? There was a great "It Makes No Difference" clip on there a while back. Also Levon doing "Remedy". I miss that stuff. Thanks.

Some gems from Mofro - These guys rock!

Lochloosa/Mofro - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y5RVtUT7fc

Florida/Mofro(same as link above) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shLYrq1ai-I

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Charlie Y

Subject: Drake Levin

Guitarist Drake Levin--most famous for his four years as lead guitarist for Paul Revere and the Raiders--passed away (ironically enough, given the name of that band) on July 4th. Mr. Levin was 62.

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brown eyed girl

....and a Happy Happy Birthday to JTull Fan!

I saw them in 1975....I think. Don't ya just love the build up to this song?

I think Tenn's birthday was yesterday as well. So a Happy Happy Belated birthday to you too! Uh, lawyer Tenn now. :-D

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brown eyed girl

Ready to make new music

Of course for himself and his fans

Because he writes, sings and plays his own music

Best emotional guitar player for brown eyed girl

Intelligent songwriter

Evinces a strong will and beats to his own Native drum

Happy Happy Birthday to you....Robbie Robertson!

The other day I was checking out books in Indigo Bookstore and the entire recording of The Band's "A Musical History" was playing. It was here I first met Robbie and had him sign this recording. My first photo with Robbie was also taken here. Yeah, I still dig him....;-D

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Brien Sz

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Joan

Subject: Wilco

NY Times interview.

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Serenity

NORM:Check your e-mail for your music. Sounds great, and glad I found it.

CYA soon xoxoxo

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Serenity

Subject: ROBBIE and NORM

LINK: Just had to link this beautiful song by our ROBBIE.Wishing him a very Happy Birthday. Facebook is doing a fine thing with his page.

NORM: Rockin' chair just doesn't fit you. You'll be like yours truly, mentally sound, but thinks young. Growing old is in the mind. The body may be slower and tired[?], but the mind will keep you young. My kids always say to me,"Mom, you will never grow old". Body? Yes, but mind? NEVER. Retirement is something wonderful to accept, and I'm betting dear Susan is loving you more because of it. Sees you more is what I mean. Now she can really drive you crazy or vice versa.

I have songs from your music that you sent me awhile ago. I have to check if I still have them, and I can send them back to you, or on to someone else. Won't promise too much on this until I check it out later.[Much later today I hope].

Until next time LOVE AND PEACE xoxoxo

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Gene

We all have a final payment pending - de mortuis nihil nisi bonum

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bob w.

It has been a tough stretch for the rich and famous.

RIP -- Allen Klein

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westcoaster

Subject: More of the Same

DLEW & Steve; Thank you both. Steve you are right. Finding Susan after all these years was good for me. She is a fine lady, (Damn! it's been almost four years now).

David; I'll always be around. When we make final plans, I'll be sure to e mail you. How far away are you from Murarrie?