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The Band Guestbook, May 2003

Below are (most of) the entries posted in The Band guestbook from May 2003. The guestbook was temporarily closed on May 22-26.


Entered at Sat May 31 23:44:31 CEST 2003 from mcha-ah030.taconic.net (205.231.30.77)

Posted by:

Lil

Curtis Blue: You're not boring me at all. I happen to agree with you 100%.


Entered at Sat May 31 23:40:16 CEST 2003 from cache-mtc-ac02.proxy.aol.com (64.12.96.71)

Posted by:

Curtis Blue

Location: NYC

Rich, All due respect, this is an open discussion about The Band, I think Robbie getting a phoney law degree is what opened up the topic. I see nothing nasty about what anyone said here.

Charlotte, I thought your post was fine and never a need to say your sorry to the likes of me, Enjoy one of the finest records ever recorded.

Calvin, This is a fact, Robbie borrowed one million to get the last of the production work done. The money was never recouped, other than their normal show fee, the Band did not recieve more money. The DVD has grossed over 8 million to date, I think they have recouped. Time for Robbie to cut some checks.This is how I see it and many people see it, to me it mares the music and I find it very sad that Richard and Rick did not get their fair share of the credit

Lil, sorry to bore you with this, perhaps the next year will bring some new excitment to this topic, you heard it here first folks


Entered at Sat May 31 23:24:01 CEST 2003 from w37.igs.berkeley.edu (128.32.52.97)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Location: Berkeley, CA

John D: The two-term limit for US Presidents applies for life. Carter only served one term so he could run again. Clinton served two and thus cannot.

Hope this helps (it's a rare day when my "day job" expertise comes in handy in the GB!)...Dave


Entered at Sat May 31 23:22:40 CEST 2003 from mcha-ah030.taconic.net (205.231.30.77)

Posted by:

Lil

Rich: The recent closing of the gb had nothing to do with comments such as the ones by Bill Johnson today. The gb was closed simply because someone has someone else by the proverbial balls. Sad really. And if I wasn't so worn out, maybe I'd even care.


Entered at Sat May 31 23:21:00 CEST 2003 from adsl-66-72-192-16.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net (66.72.192.16)

Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Presidential Tenure, John D's Question, and the Feud

TWENTY-SECOND AMENDMENT __________ PRESIDENTIAL TENURE Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

Hope that helps John.

I respect you opinion Curtis, but what somebody says is right, the fued has been done to death and is really none of our damn business. But I cant help touching on the statement Garth, Levon, Rick or RIchard never saw a dime from the Last Waltz. It's a crazy rumour that got started God knows where that I've seen debunked several times, once by Rick Himself. Heck, Muddy Waters said in his Biography the biggest check he ever got was from the Last Waltz.


Entered at Sat May 31 23:16:03 CEST 2003 from m135-mp1.cvx1-c.bir.dial.ntli.net (213.105.44.135)

Posted by:

Charlotte

Subject: apology in advance

Ok - have just realised that what I wrote back there's just as guilty in maybe starting the whole mess up again as anything else. I don't want to be a hypocrite - I was just trying say how I felt about it (I know, and so was everyone else who ever posted on the subject!) and be perfectly neutral. But then I probably missed the point that when you post in a Guestbook people are meant to respond with their opinions, so sorry - I really didn't want restart a thing.

Curtis Blue, thanks for your post, and I appreciate getting your view so nicely-expressed when my own post was pretty much open to "what a stupid question" replies. ANYWAY that's me done for the night, going to listen to Rock of Ages which I have just purchased. Does anyone else think that this version of W.S. Walcott Medicine Show is great? Listen to the base! Wow.


Entered at Sat May 31 22:54:05 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

Curtis Blue

Location: NYC

Subject: Robbie

Charlotte n\This is how I view the fight between Robbie and Levon. Levon, Garth, Richard and Danko have never seen a penny from the Last Waltz. Robbie however by continuing to put out Box Sets an DVD'S and claiming to be "Executive Producer" makes nice large "fee's". for this role.n\Robbie also claims to have written most of the band songs. I think it was the best collaboration in the history of popular music, and not the work of one man. Did Robbie "write" Richards piano parts? Did he write Danko's bass part? Levon's drum parts? Is that just arrangement work? n\would Robbie even begin to tell Garth what to play? I think not. So that to me is where the lie is. n\So why is there one member that lives in Hollywood a rich man and Richard and Rick Danko die paupers? So Charlotte, I guess the ones that care are Levon, Garth, and Rick and Richards familys, and possibly any fair minded person. n\Judge Judy, in response to your foolish post, I think Robbie is arrogant enough to to defend himself in a court of law, he believes his own press so much so, American Indian, Leader of The Band, executive producer, that he will believe this new one Lawyern\Mr. Viney, all due respect the only thing that is done to death are your posts..........


Entered at Sat May 31 22:53:05 CEST 2003 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Presidential Question

You would be surprised how often I have asked this question and cannot get an answer. After a President of the U.S. has finished two consecutive terms and leaves office.......fter a break of at least four years or more.....can in fact he run again for office of the President? In other words could Clinton or a Jimmy Carter for example run again for President after a "break from office?"


Entered at Sat May 31 22:36:35 CEST 2003 from alb-24-194-210-183.nycap.rr.com (24.194.210.183)

Posted by:

rich

Location: upstate

Subject: bill johnson post

Why do you feel such a need to spew such acrimony in this place? did you forget that this guestbook was closed as recently as a week ago because of hostile comment like yours. Be considerate or be gone!!


Entered at Sat May 31 22:01:26 CEST 2003 from inktomi2-cdf.server.ntl.com (62.252.32.5)

Posted by:

Charlotte

Subject: Bill Johnson

Not nice, not nice. I've never signed the guestbook before though I've been reading it for a while, and you were all just getting along so well! LOL. Maybe people ought to refrain from passing judgement on something 'til they've heard both sides of the story. Or maybe - and if so I'm sorry - you have. Has anyone ever heard Robbie's? You guys ought to publish all the 'feud' bits of your GB then reference every new commentator to it. Like Mr Viney says, it's been done to death. And anyway, who really cares? Wouldn't you rather just listen to the music and then answer questions like JTull Fan's about the disturbing prospect of more little Macca's? Personally I would, and I have no idea whether I speak for the rest of the people who visit this (great) guestbook and never talk to anyone else, but I've gotta be talking for at least *some* of them!

What I was going to say before I wrote all that shit above was: I love reading your guestbook (except maybe the odd entry bitching either on behalf of or about Levon/Robbie) and it's surely a lovely tribute to (in my opinion) the best band ever. The whole website is informative and just plain nice to look at, and (I'm relatively incompetent at computers) it's the only site on my Favourites list (possibly because I've only just discovered it). Just wanted to express my appreciation! Thanks.

Charlotte


Entered at Sat May 31 21:06:41 CEST 2003 from hvc-204-210-137-188.hvc.rr.com (204.210.137.188)

Posted by:

Tom/Woodstock Records

Location: Woodstock,NY
Web: My link

Subject: Prof. Louie & The Crowmatix - Live CD release

Hi All! - Just a quick note: Woodstock Records proudly announces the release of Prof Louie & The Crowmatix - "Live". This brand new live CD features the studio bonus track of Bob Dylan's "Forever Young". A great collection of live show stoppers from their current 2003 tour, this cd features Michael Falazarano, Garth Hudson and The Rock of Ages Horn Section featuring "Blues Brothers" - Tom "Bones" Malone & Lou Marini. The first in the "Taper's Series" releases from Woodstock Records. It's available now at woodstockrecords.com - Check it out! - Thanks to all the fans for your support and see you on the road all summer !


Entered at Sat May 31 19:50:11 CEST 2003 from adsl-66-72-192-16.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net (66.72.192.16)

Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: THis, That and The Other

I found the After the Waltz CD's to be pretty good myself, It's always great to find a new song (whether it be cover or not) that you don't have any other recording of-But Amanda's comment is something I've though of dozens of times. I have about 35 CD's of "bootleg" Band material. Exactly how many copies of The Weight do I need. But I still feel compelled to get any Band Boot when I see one.

No problem Sup, anytime I can introduce somebody to Poco, and have them appreciate Richie Furay and the boys, is a good day.

I found your comment about knowing the behind the scenes information about The Guys. Jaggers\Richards and the Davies brothers pretty amusing Peter. Did you ever read Dave Davies book "Kink"? There is a great bit where Dave talks about visting his mother on her death bed where upose in his view she practically rises out of the bed to beg him to stay away from Ray because he will eventually eat him alive. It wouldnt be so funny if Dave hadnt of spent the entire book talking about how everyone in the world has screwed him and trying to decided whether the voices he hears in his head are spirits he is channeling or people from another planet trying to contact him. Pretty messed up guy Dave Davies. Guess when your 17 years old with women throwing themselves at you and having more money then you ever though possible the world gets turned a little upside down.


Entered at Sat May 31 19:26:35 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-001.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.1)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Yazooman- thanks for the info on Vilayat Khan. I hadn’t heard of him. Just after reading your post, I turned to Record Collector and opened it straight at a review of a new DVD by Vilayat Khan, ‘Different Strokes’ – the reviewer is ectstatic about it, and says he’s using the words ‘musical genius’ for only the fifth time in 40 years of reviewing. ‘Vilayat Khan’s conception is luscious and imaginatively logical.’ So I’ll investigate further! When I first met my wife she had a 1960s LP by Ravi Shankar that remains a favourite to this day. It’s hard to find out if it the exact set’s on CD – because the tracks are just called Morning Raga and Evening Raga which is true of a lot of his CDs! I prefer it to the recent Carnegie Hall set in fact.

JTull Fan – Paul’s paternity made ther front page headline story in all the tabloids here.

Bill Johnson. Interesting to hear from someone who clearly has detailed knowledge of all the documents and business dealings between Band members enabling him to come to such a conclusion. What are you a music business lawyer who did the paperwork? Or just someone who read Levon’s book and got hot under the collar? Without Robbie Robertson’s songs, none of us would be here posting today. Do you have further incisive legal insights on Lennon v McCartney? Or Jagger vs Richards? or Page vs Plant? or Ray Davies v Dave Davies? Actually forget it, we've done this one so often that it's beyond discussion!


Entered at Sat May 31 18:34:36 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: After The Waltz

Bayou Sam: I just got the cd set too.

I'm thrilled and I haven't gotten through Disc One. I remember Lil and someone else posting about Rick singing "My Love" by Lionel Richie. This set has Rick and Richard doing the song from a Danko/Manuel show at the Lone Star Café, NYC, on 01/02/84. I was hoping that this set would have the "Goin' Back to Alabama" song. I've never heard that one. I hope, hope, hope Jan will put it up eventually!!

I also received some old Hawks & Levon & The Hawks (THANKS :o) !!!) I can't believe how the girls screamed back then. It is the same thing with old footage of all the bands in the 50s/60s. What happened to all the hootin' and hollerin'...women's lib? BTW, I don't mean clapping and woo-hoos at the end of a song. I think it is so refreshing to hear the girls reacting like that on the old bootlegs. That is total honesty...simply one of the greatest truths about rock and roll. I know in the 70s, women were stilling fainting over Elvis (my aunt nearly fell on top of me), but by the time I was seeing rock shows in the 80s there were definitely no utter squealing sounds of ecstacy...even though we all might have felt that way. ;o)

I also love the banter between our guys that you get to experience with the live shows. On one of the Hawks cds, some of the girls in the audience are referred to as "Levon's little hors d'oeuvres." You might think...that is so sexist...but, the girls loved it. I like Levon's little jokes and the way he gives Arkansas a plug every once in awhile. My favorite banter has to be between Rick and Richard. They really seem to have had a wonderful time with each other...an understanding...and great timing with their sense of humors...they really fed off of one another. I know I have said this a hundred times before but, I can't believe how lucky I am to have this music in my life. And so many people are willing to share. Sometimes, it's just that simple...even when my husband says, "how many versions of that one song do you have to have???"


Entered at Sat May 31 18:32:30 CEST 2003 from (192.68.30.246)

Posted by:

Adela

Location: Houston, TX
Web: My link

Subject: Band Tattoos

As the proud owner of one of the first Band tattoos (if not THE first?)--see my link--I must express my admiration to Brooke for getting the RR tat. It reminded me of that period in '96 when I was debating exactly what to get after I decided I definitely would get some kind of homage to my heroes, my beloveds, my angels, my saviors... I think the first thought was just to ink the simple word "Banddandy", which is a term I found on this very website. Next, I considered just the 5 names of Levon, Robbie, Rick, Garth, Richard... but what order to put them in? What would a future boyfriend/husband think when he saw those names on my flesh? Plus, I momentarily felt like I would be excluding anyone who'd ever been in the Band (Jim, Randy, Richard) or even anyone who directly influenced them (Hawk, Roy Buchanan). So then I just decided on the simply elegant, all-encompassing "The Band." And since they had no real logo or anything, and I unsuccessfully searched all their albums looking for just the right font to inspire, I just trusted my tattooist, Fidel of South Side Tattoo in Pasadena, TX, to work his magic and create art, which is what I feel he did!

You know, so much advice given in the tattoo world includes the caveat, "Don't ever get your favorite band's name tattooed!" but that just doesn't apply to me with The Band. To me, The Band really did become a way of life--a religion, practically! They set my life on its course all the way back from the age of 12 to present-day. Granted, I'm not like, "WWLD?" (What would Levon do? :-)) on a daily basis, but their influence over me is both wide and deep. For this, I will always thank them and remember them, and I will always bless their names, their lives, and their music.


Entered at Sat May 31 18:05:48 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

Bill Johnson

Robbie deserves a law degree for screwing his former "friends" and bandmates out of money. It's no small feat to be the only one of The Band profiting after all this time. What happened to this great lawyer's quest for Leonard Peltier's freedom? Was that just a momentary cause to sell a record? Seems like he gave it up, right? Robbie Robertson is one of the all-time assholes of the record business. If Bill Graham were still alive he'd tell you. From one ass to another!


Entered at Sat May 31 14:15:25 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.252.101)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Anybody see that Paul McCartney is going to be a dad again?


Entered at Sat May 31 11:24:50 CEST 2003 from (203.132.156.45)

Posted by:

Yazooman

Location: At a cool hill station right now :))

Belated birthday wishes to the king of the traps (post Buddy Rich of course :) )!! Shine on.....

Mr. Viney, maybe you would like to listen to Ustad Vilayat Khan, who is considered by quite some Indian classical music lovers as even superior to Ravi Shankar. Vilayat Khan is more of a purist in his style of playing, and perhaps that is the major reason why he is not as popular in the West as Ravi Shankar is; because he is bent on playing his music in the most traditional manner, which can sometime alienate a foeign audience. For example, sometimes while playing a Raga, the musician plays the "warm-up" or introduction part for almost 45 mins to 1 hour, thus "creating" the atmosphere before getting into the Raga proper. To a Western audience unaware of the subtleties that might be a bit too much.Though the fact remains that Ravi Shan kar is one of the greatest exponents of the Sitar that ever was.

Calvin: I left home a few days back for the new job and am at training right now. But the last few days were spent listening to those extra CDs you'd sent, and they really grew on me. Absolutely amazing stuff: Poco, Hillman, Waits, Welch etc., too bad I had to leave them behind at home. Think I'll buy me a discman one of these days.


Entered at Sat May 31 09:21:40 CEST 2003 from netcache-2004.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.198.63)

Posted by:

rosalind

Location: Burma Shave

Subject: You said the magic words..

Dave - Have you proformed your songs in front of an audience? Did they walk up to you after the show and say they loved them and that you should get the stuff sold ? OR Did you take them to a guy who said they were good and he'd push them ... for a price? There are a lot of unsavory characters out there who read those stars in people's eyes and attempt to take them for everything they got ... Don't let that happen to you, please. Be very very careful.

Tom Wait's changed my life.
The Band did that for me also, but by the mid to late eighties it wasn't working anymore. I had become a terminal restless spirit who had no home, family, husband or children. I walked the streets til dawn, talked to strangers, felt strangly at home sitting on a curb with a bottle and a bent package of Camels watching the Miller High-Life flash on and off down the street. I would have hopped freights if it hadn't been so dangerous. In the seventies hopping freights and sleeping in jungles weren't too dangerous for a woman. Women were so rare on the rails that the ones who were out there had several men to take care of them at almost every given time. Not so later on. It was around this time I seen this guy on a TV show, sitting in front of a pipe organ, singing a song in a worn whiskey-soaked voice.

It's more than trouble
I got myself into
It's more than woe
Begotten gray skies now.

His name was Tom Waits. He showed me I weren't just another high school drop-out dragging around a heavy bag filled with unanswered questions and unfulfilled dreams. Listening to Tom made me feel more comfortable in my skin and the hand I had be dwelt in life. There is richness in being the misunderstood outsider, the one who feels wheels under them even when they're standing still, the one who sees those fine white lines even in their sleep, the one who feels they're never closer to home as when they're speeding down some lonesome deserted highway or shivering around a burning barrel sharing a cheap botte of wine with their own kind. I did that for more than a couple of years. I still do it ... but only in my terminally restless spirit.

And it's a battered old suitcase
To a hotel someplace
And a wound that will never heal

Dave, I usually listen to Bluegrass, real old delta blues, old country music and movie music. Nothing like Hank Williams singin' Old Log Train, Ramblin' Man, Pictures From Lifes Other Side, House Of Gold and Lonesome Whistle. I listen and play old music, it takes me away from this age we're all forced to endure and puts me in a place much closer to home for me than 2003. I love Chet Baker and Billie Holiday. I prefer music without words most of the time. I wrote this down (just for you.) No one else here is interested in personal stuff too much.


Entered at Sat May 31 08:56:38 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.252.101)

Posted by:

Stephen W. Novik

Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada

Subject: Future Band box set

I saw the Garth Hudson appearance on TVO's Studio 2 and I was amazed at his comment that there will be another Band box set BUT this set will feature music BEFORE they hooked up with Dylan! Wow! Hawks material! Excellent! I can't wait! Me, the collector that I am, must have must have must have! But can anybody elaborate on what might just be on this set? Cheers! Happy Birthday Levon!


Entered at Sat May 31 07:04:47 CEST 2003 from akcf1-ggi.xtra.co.nz (203.96.111.237)

Posted by:

steve coles

Location: New Zealand

Subject: the weght

does anyone know a simple version of the weight introduction for a guitar learner. cheers


Entered at Sat May 31 07:00:19 CEST 2003 from usr470-bh2.blueyonder.co.uk (62.30.233.226)

Posted by:

Dave G.

Location: "Merry Old England"

Subject: Roz

Hi! Roz, I`m glad to see you still sign the guestbook. I talked to you a couple of months ago...I was off to London in search of fame and prosperity, remember?. I`m not there yet!...but fingers crossed eh? Basically, I`ve had to copyright all my songs...and there`s a guy who has contacts in the recording industry who is going round trying to sell my product. I won`t be holding my breath though!, I`m the type of guy who keeps his feet on the ground!. The thing is, I turned 32 a couple of days ago...so I guess time isn`t exactly on my side!..however,the guy I met in London wasn`t at all concerned with my age..and said I looked, middle to late twenties anyway...He hasn`t checked me out first thing in the morning though!..hehe!. I suppose what I would prefer the most, would be to let other artists record my material(if the opportunity ever arose)..and just sit back and live of the potential royalties,that could be achieved. Less hassle and stress that way!..hehe!. I will just continue writing songs and see what Lady Luck has in store for me. Thanks for letting me know about "Warren Zevon"...I`m so glad he`s still with us, such a great songwriter...like our very own Robbie, albeit a different style. So many classic songs to choose from!...Have you got a copy of the live album "Learning to flinch" ?. The guitar work on "Poor,Poor Pitiful me" is fantastic and songs such as "Hasten down the Wind"...."Excitable Boy"... "Roland...."....."The indiffernce of heaven" really shine through on the "Live" stage. By the way Roz,what do you think of Tom Waits?. My favourite album of his is "Frank`s Wild Years"..The guy`s amazing!. Apart from the "Band" of course, I also enjoy Taj Mahal... John Hiatt..J.J.Cale...Doug Sahm...Chuck Prophet....and various blues stuff. Oh yeh!..Cajun stuff too...D.L.Menard for example. I caught D.L. Menard in concert with Eddie Lejoune..a few years ago, here in Birmingham,England...A great night!. Who are your favourites outside the magnificent "Band"? Hopefully talk to you soon Roz...Dave X.


Entered at Sat May 31 06:19:04 CEST 2003 from quebec-hse-ppp3612809.sympatico.ca (65.93.193.176)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Brooke S: Are you the one who emailed me when I first posted to thank me for all the Robbie posts?...If so....It was great to see you around with your Robbie tattoo.....Sorry, I lost your email...Hope you are still playing guitar if you're the one. I was the one who agreed with you that Robbie's version of "Amazing Grace" was even more eloquent and moving than Jeff Beck's.....

John D: Yes I was at one of the Garth shows.....(fifth time)....Do you even have to ask? Garth really surprised me when at one point he was on stage and he looked out into the audience and saw me and said....."I know you".....He remembered meeting me at Jeff Healey's Club where I also met Bill Munson and Wittgenstein......Btw...For those of you who have asked about BWNWITenn...He also recently saw Garth in Tenn....I also recorded Garth on TVO and chuckled when he said that playing with Dylan....The Band went "from the bars.....to the stars".....

Robbie: Congrats on another accomplishment.....You're well read thanks to your wife's encouragement and your passion for challenges in life...You're my absolute favourite guitar player because you're an emotional player....You have written songs that people will continue to listen to...When you sing "Out Of The Blue".....Well....I love your singing too and all your inspirational songs from your solo work.....and now you are encouraging a new generation of artists to create and express themselves in their own voices....For the critics....I guess now you can also be an entertainment lawyer?....;-D.....I just wish you were going to receive your honorary degree at my former University.....I have an interview of Robbie where he hints at possibly recording a record from his Jewish background.....So ya never know about Robbie....just like Dylan.....As soon as you think you have him figured out....He's moved onto something else.....I love how you don't need our approval....You just keep on moving forward....Like Marley would say...."All I have is my life. No one tells me how to live my life....'Cause all I have is my life"....

Ben Harper: I really can't wait to see him one day....The more I listen to him.....The more I realize that one of the few artists for me.....who can really sing in the spirit of Bob Marley and Marvin Gaye to mention a couple of artists and who is the one who can uplift my spirit....as well as being able to play so many genres of music....Ben Harper.....I also appreciate his adventureous spirit and he evinces a commitment to communicating to all peoples of the world.........The other one would be Garland Jeffreys who I will be seeing again next month....

And speaking of guitar playing.....As Ben explains it, his root is the acoustic Weissenborn guitar, which has become his signature. "If I picked up a Strat all of a sudden and disregarded the Weissenborn, then started playing with a couple of keyboards and maybe some horns," he pauses for a second, "I'd be in trouble. I'd be far from the root. I stick with the Weissenborn, it says something new to me every day. Every time I pick it up it sings something new. As long as I keep close to the root, whether it's acoustic ballad songs, harder rock songs or something in between, as long as the music stays close to the root, then it'll stay sweet fruit."


Entered at Sat May 31 06:18:40 CEST 2003 from 1cust108.tnt16.nyc9.da.uu.net (67.192.191.108)

Posted by:

Judge Judy

Location: The Boob Tube

Subject: RR's Honorary Law Degree

Perfectly appropriate!

If Levon ever sues Robbie guess who's gonna whoop who's butt in the courtroom?


Entered at Sat May 31 04:32:36 CEST 2003 from mcha-ae017.taconic.net (205.231.29.145)

Posted by:

Lil

Since I'm going to be here all night with eight 12-year-old boys celebrating my son's birthday, and both my daughter and older son 'conveniently' had plans elsewhere, I actually purchased the National Enquirer. My hope was that while the dirt bikes were racing through the trail behind my house, I'd have a few minutes to catch my breath with some mindless drivel. After being up since 5am and working all day, that's just about my level of mentality right now :-) Rarely do I read that stuff.
Anyhow, there was mention in there of Courtney Cox (from "Friends") and her husband (who's name escapes me and I don't feel like stepping over kids in the other room to find the paper) have a Karaoke night at their house once a week... and always 'warm up' with "The Weight"! I thought that was kind of cool. And yes, I know it took me 2 paragraphs to tell you all that, but this is my only link with adult conversation tonight before going back to water balloons and "Beavis and Butthead" videos... so thanks :-)

Have a good night everyone.


Entered at Sat May 31 03:51:47 CEST 2003 from c-66-176-184-88.se.client2.attbi.com (66.176.184.88)

Posted by:

Terry

Location: USA
Web: My link

Subject: rose@mylatinrose.com

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Entered at Sat May 31 02:05:20 CEST 2003 from 12-236-193-14.client.attbi.com (12.236.193.14)

Posted by:

Dale

Subject: Doctorate of Law

I think it makes perfect sense that the man received a Doctorate of Law. Just like Lawyers, when it's all said and done, they are the ones left with all the money. Please correct me if I am wrong there.


Entered at Sat May 31 01:19:39 CEST 2003 from arc0-pool223-089.dial.qnet.com (209.221.223.89)

Posted by:

Dave tpg

Subject: Steve Guyger

Sally,,,can you elaborate?(ya know, 'splain what's goin' on???


Entered at Sat May 31 01:12:46 CEST 2003 from schltns-3.demon.nl (212.238.196.9)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Dr. Robertson, lawyer honoris causa

Of course "our" Robbie deserves all the recognition he gets, but a doctorate in law...? I think there are more appropriate ways to honour this great musician and Native American Canadian, or is it Native Canadian American? The Globe and Mail article is rather critical about "universities trolling for cash and publicity. Perhaps the award has lost some of its lustre", it says, "just don't tell that to Robbie Robertson".

What's next? Which Arkansas university will honour Levon by passing him the hat for, let us say.. chemistry...?


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Posted by:

Sally

Subject: The Grapevine

I hear Steve Guyger hits the road as a Barnburner this summer!!!How cool is that:)


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Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Buffalo G-Fest/Jim Weider Band

G-Man, sounds like the circus came to your town. Lucky guy. Enjoy the Buffalo Guitar Festival, especially on June 15th. Remind Hubert Sumlin that the Road Warriors caught him in Bearsville on New Year's Eve. G, hope you're good for some cigars for Jim and Sid of the Jim Weider Band. It's the least you can do for their paying you a visit.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Doctor Robert

Congratulations to Robbie on a well-deserved honorary degree. Why it should be 'Law' I don't know - Sir Paul McCartney (Doctor of Music, Liverpool) and Van Morrison (Doctor of Music, Queen's University, Belfast … I think) received more appropriate titles, but whatever, writing the lyrics he has written, let alone the music, is worth a Doctorate in every sense. He also follows Paul Simon and Bob Dylan in honorary degrees. They are his peers. Delighted that he has had this recognition.


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Posted by:

Tiny Monster

Location: Out-There
Web: My link

Subject: Me, of course

... Yes, I'm still here ...

As Always,
Tiny Monster



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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: Congratulations

...to Robbie on his well-deserved honorary degree (see What's New)...always positive to hear artists like him who talk about their work and traditions thoughtfully...though their music is worlds apart, Robbie and Jimmy Page have some similarities in how they offer insightful commentary on the creative process--I saw an interview today with the survivors of Led Zeppelin on their rereleases, and Page carried most of the conversation with statements that had a lot of substance...he and Robbie are smart musicians with a lot of soul, too.

and the tattoo is unique! Who's Brooke?!?

Speaking of smart people, I've commented here a few times on Warren Zevon's status, and marveled that he's still with us after all those stories that were basically measuring him for a casket LAST SEPTEMBER. Sometimes it seems that these journalists can't wait for celebrities to die so they can write something about them. Weird priorities. How come there can't be stories about musicians who are healthy and don't have any new product to sell? Just check in on Van Morrison, for instance (even though he hates interviews)...

MORE POWER TO YOU, EXCITABLE BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: RR guitar technique

Ray: Robbie Robertson uses a combination of flatpicking & fingerpicking. He also uses his middle finger to hit those harmonic notes. You can observe a lot of his technique in the extensive (:-) camera close-ups in "The Last Waltz".


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Posted by:

Ray G

Location: Pearl River

Subject: Robbie Robertson and Guitar Technique

I've always liked and appreciated Robbie Robertson as a guitarist and I think that's the area he gets the least credit for. I was listening to Rock of Ages yesterday and started to wonder about his right hand guitar picking technique. Does anybody know if he usually:

A) flatpicks

B) fingerpicks

C) or if he maybe uses the hybrid method of combining flatpicking and fingerpicking.

I'd be intrested to find out, anyone got any ideas???

Thanks from Ray G


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: Warren Zevon

Music industry executive Danny Goldberg was a guest on the Don Imus show this morning. Mr. Goldberg is the head of Artemis Records, the label to which Warren Zevon is affiliated. Among the many topics of discussion, Mr. Imus inquired about Mr. Zevon's health. Mr. Goldberg responded that Mr. Zevon, who is gravely ill with cancer, has his good & bad days, and hasn't spoken to him in a couple of months. Mr. Zevon is evidently spending time with his close friends & family.

Mr. Goldberg did mention that Mr. Zevon delivered his completed new album to Artemis ten days ago and that the recordings sound terrific. Friends such as Don Henley, Ry Cooder, Dwight Yoakam and others worked with Mr. Zevon on the recording. According to the Artemis website, VH-1 filmed the recording sessions for an upcoming special program.

Our thoughts & prayers go out to Warren Zevon during his struggle. That he has been able to continue to express himself artistically through his music during these difficult times is nothing short of amazing.


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Posted by:

John Cass

Location: VT

Subject: "after the waltz"

Bayou Sam,

would you by any chance be interested in burning me those CD's "After The Waltz" and I can send you some stuff I have.. give me a e-mail jcassari@doc.state.vt.us

thanks!


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Posted by:

rosalind

Location: SW, Pa.

Subject: Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School

Hey Dave - I haven't heard anything about Warren Zevon's health recently. All we learned from the Letterman show several months ago was that he had a phobia and hadn't been to a doctor in twenty years, come down with breathlessness (all the time) and for about a year and a half only hired people who would casually tell him he "had a cold". Finally, on a visit to his dentist (the only doctor he ever saw) he confided his symptoms. His dentist said "It sounds like congestive heart failure to me." No such luck tho... It's incurable so ... How's he doin? Probably not so good ......
Anyway, he said he had lived like Jim Morrison and had survived 30 more years So... like every one of us, he'll sleep when he's dead but .. he'll always be Roland The Headless Thompson Gunner to me.

You an still see his headless body stalkin' thru the night
In the muzzle flash of Roland's Thompson gun
In the muzzle flash of Roland's Thompson gun


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Posted by:

FloydDVoid@aol.com

Levon...happy birthday bro...u r truly one of musics living legends....i met u three times, &each time u were nicer than before!!!..i saw the barnburners at the bottom line...i had on the hat that was signed by Rick Danko...u were nice enough to sign it too...thanks for everything"La-von"...keep poppin those drums...Michael..FloydDVoid@aol.com


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Thanks John D!!!


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Between Train's, Tony Question, introducing people to the Band

Today was a good day. I got a pristine vinyl copy of the King of COmedy and have listened to Between Trains about a dozen times. SOmetimes things don't live up to there billing, but that is a damn good song. And for the life of me I can't figure out why that soundtrack isnt out on CD-The Pretenders, Ray Charles, The Talking Heads, Van Morrison, Rickie Lee Jones, David Sanborn, and Robbie? What? Not enough star power?

Tony, After The Waltz is a 6 CD bootleg of the Band from about 1985-1996, it was offered for trade on a Neil Young Site about 2 months back, had a couple hundred takers and sounds great.

A young friend of mine, 23, has asked why the Band is my favorite group-I tried to explain it but I'm afraid I failed. But she is asked me to bring her some music of theirs because she wants to really give them a listen, to understand why I like them so much. She's got good taste, she has introduced me to the Indigo Girls beyond their radio hits and made me appreciate Ben Harper instead of writing him off as a college radio wanta be hipster, which i had been doing. So I've spent the evening looking over all the Band, 1 and 2s, albums, and the solo recording trying to figure out what I'd put on a CD that would make in impression on her. Quite a trial, and impossible one really.


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Posted by:

Dave G.

Location: England

Subject: "Warren Zevon"

HI! fellow band fans, I`m a 31 year old fan of the "Band",and have been since I was 18. Anybody know what Levon did for his recent Birthday?,was any special event organised? By the way,can anyone let me know on the current state of health of "Warren Zevon"?...I understand he was diagnosed with Terminal Cancer last year,but I can`t get any current info,even from his own web site!. I would be grateful if someone could let me know..Thanks.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Greg Quill Toronto Star Garth Review From Sunday Night

Toronto promoter Gary Topp has been indulging his eclectic tastes occasionally by booking free-wheeling, cross-genre and niche-proof acts into The Senator.

Freddie Roulette is one, and urbane bluegrass swingbilly band The Hot Club Of Cowtown have played the Senator several times under Topp's auspices.

As did Garth Hudson, the utterly inclusive and far-ranging keyboard genius and rock legend, who made his first-ever five-night solo stand at the revered jazz room last week. An improper match? Hardly.

Hudson displayed a playful contempt for formality, and his witty, intuitive and at times breathtakingly artful amalgam of blues, gospel, country, ragtime, folk, Tin Pan Alley, children's and sacred music is as near to jazz in its purest sense as Louis Armstrong ever got.

No cheap trickster, Hudson flew by the seat of his pants, drawing on every tenuous connection that solidified, however briefly, in his crowded imagination and found its way to his fingertips, and achieved several mighty feats of musical fancy, assisted by his wife, Maud, who contributed ethereal vocals on a handful of folk and gospel tunes, and, late in the week, by local jazz guitarist Jake Langley, whose tasty licks added some lovely contextual matter.

It was jazzy enough to keep Grammy award-winning jazz diva Diana Krall and her betrothed, composer and singer Elvis Costello, enthralled for most of Hudson's two long sets on Friday night. They refused VIP treatment, it's worth noting, and each insisted on paying the $20 cover when Topp's door staff offered them free seats.

"He's a working musician," Krall said. "No freebies."


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Posted by:

G-Man

Location: Buffalo

Subject: Buffalo Guitar Fest/ JIM WEIDER BAND

Yo,,Chicago Tony,,sounds like a nice event. HOWEVER,,,June 14 thru June 22,,,The Buffalo Guitar Fest has some of the same players!! One OUTSTANDING part of the BGF is on sunday, 6/15,,,,noon to 10 pm,,,,Larry Coryell, The Yardbirds,, Savoy Brown are on a venue with,,THE JIM WEIDER BAND!!!! Local guitarist,,full page poster in GUITAR MAGAZINE,,DOUG YEOMENS is gonna blister the strings!! JWB gonna have SID THE MECHANIC McGuinnis doin some RHYTM guitar, and Blues Legend and Levon Helm cohort, HUBERT SUMLIN pitchin in! YESSSSSS,,,,WEEGE gonna be like NAPALM TO JUNGLE!!!!!And finally,,less than a 4 hr. drive!!!!!


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Posted by:

tony

Location: chicago

Subject: summerfest / "After the waltz"

To all you midwesterners or travellers:
This weekend in chicago is the annual bluesfest- always a great time down by the lake in the city where the blues thrives. just a few names: Bonnie Raitt, Otis taylor, Charlie Musslewhite.

More importantly, Milwaukee's Summerfest is coming up at the end of June. For those who've never been,the crowds can be rough at points, but the musical lineup over ten days is worth it. Also it can be pretty low on the cash-o-meter. Here's some acts I thought appropriate for the GB (check out www.summerfest.com for the complete schedule):

Friday June 27- North Mississippi All-stars, steve Winwood, Buddy Guy
Saturday June 28- Tom Petty, Little Richard
Monday June 30- Radiators, Joe Cocker
Tuesday July 1- The Dead and Willie Nelson, Buckwheat Zydeco
Thursday July 3-John Mayall, Wilco
Friday July 4- Sonny landreth, Robert Randolph (great pedal steel player check it out), John Hiatt, Dickie Betts
Sunday July 6- Los Lobos

Hope this was helpful, anyone planning on attending Blues or Summerfest can email me at alupo80ataoldotcom.

Lastly, Bayou Sam mentioned something about "after the Waltz". I may be lost but what is this? I hope it's what I think it is....


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Posted by:

Joe & Beth

Location: Buffalo

Subject: Happy Birthday Friend

Dear Levon; It's been too long! Best to you on your Birthday and really hope to see you again some day soon. Luv you man, Joe & Beth


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Posted by:

Serge...again

Web: My link

Subject: to ROGER

Here's another link, where your Birmingham Fest. is mentioned. Click on "Events"


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Posted by:

Serge

Web: My link

Subject: To ROGER, Moseley UK

Roger, I checked your link. Absolutely, GO! Tchavolo Schmitt and Fapy lafertin alone are worth the price. I see Gary Potter from the UK will be there. He's a monster player of that genre. Young David Reinhardt (Django's grandson) shows a lot of promise. Along with all the others in the line up, it sounds like a great time...When you return from there, you'll trash all the so-called "acoustic" guitars efforts that you may have on record, such as Clapton's and others, who should stick to their electric toys. Maybe they're not aware, or just afraid to acknowledge the existence of all that talent. I am going to the Samois Fest end of June, ( 27, 28 and 29th.) the grand daddy of all manouche festivals, 30 min. from Paris, where Django lived for many years, and died 50 years ago. That fest. has been a yearly thing since the 70's.

My link is optimized for Explorer. The text on the English version has been improved, but you'll get the idea. Your fest, is in July. Maybe Viney will make it, and discover a whole new world.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Shadows & Canada

I've told Bill this before. I used to swop singles with my cousin in Toronto. I'd send her the latest Shadows - weeks before Canadian release - and she'd send me obscurer stuff on the US & Canadian charts. I think I won.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

They were a bit before my time, but the Shadows seem to have been popular - at least with musicians - across Canada. Neil Young's only pre-Springfield release was a 45 with two Shadovian instrumentals. His school chum, Randy Bachman, was similarly inspired, the Esquires from Ottawa released one of the very first Canadian major-label R&R LPs - and it was all Shadows style. In the Maritimes the Gemtones recorded at least three albums, in Quebec Les Jaguars. Vancouver had the Chessmen (with Terry Jacks on guitar). We also had lots of Hurricanes-style stuff with sax, but that's something else altogether. A Dutch label, Collector Records, has released at least two two-CD sets of early Canadian rock instrumentals, for those of you who might care. The closest thing to a Hawks/Band link that I can think of is that the LP by one of the groups covered, Nicky Moore and the Sceptres, includes a nice version of "Little Liza Jane" - which leads me to believe that the song was part of the Hawks' repertoire well before they went on their own. In fact, the Sceptres evolved from the original lineup of that primary Hawks farm team, Jerry Warren and the Tremblers.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: trivia

Wittgenstein: You're oh-so-close but incorrect. Hint -- different letters between the "j" & the "y", in addition to a different instrument, in relation to the gentleman you mentioned.


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Posted by:

Johan Hasselberg

Location: Kalix in Sweden
Web: My link

Subject: Rock Band

The Band is one of the best rock band in the world. The music will never die. Ronnie Hawkins is also one of my all times favorites. I wish all the best - Johan - Chuck Berry News


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: hangin' ten

We need to mention Dick Dale during this surf music thread. And for drumming, the guy who made people think Dennis Wilson was great - Hal Blaine.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Man T = funny you should bring up Ringo. I had a "last straw" event happen recently - a guy at work told me that Ringo was just lucky to have been in the Beatles, and he isn't such a great drummer. I've dealt with this mistaken view of Ringo before. Well - I looked at him and told him I was going to burn him a CD, and I want him to listen to it. I think he will because now he keeps asking me where it is. I'm making him a nice compilation of some of Ringo's finest performances........."The End" is certainlly Ringo's most noticible drum part. But I think his greatest stuff is things you have to listen for. I could list a ton of them, but since this IS The Band site I'll just mention his drumming during the last part of "Long Tall Sally", and his very tastful work on "In My Life".

I got my "After The Waltz" discs today (all six of them)via the Neil Young trees site (thanks to whoever it was that posted that in here). I only sampled the first disc so far and it sounds nice.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Instrumentals

There was The Beatles generation who started playing 1957/58 maybe, and then the mainstream of post-Beatles British bands who started just pre-Beatles in 1961 / 62 playing Walk Don’t Run (Ventures), Foot Tapper (Shadows) Peter Gunn (Duane Eddy), Let there Be Drums (Sandy Nelson). The Hawks of course played the Henry Mancini version of Peter Gunn, but then they had Garth. Neil Young was into The Shadows, though I don’t think they were that big in the USA. Here in the UK they were huge. Wonderful Land broke all records by being #1 for 9 weeks. And they all played Apache.

So, in 1962 (I think) two seminal US instrumentals came out, Pipeline (The Chantays) and Wipe Out (The Surfaris). Every band did them. Here in Bournemouth, at least three did the vocal B-side, Surfer Joe, as well. Let’s not forget ‘Let’s Go’ by The Routers too. Wipe Out deserves a place in the Hall of Fame.


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Posted by:

Wittgenstein

Location: Jeopardy Tournament of Champions

Subject: trivia

DP: The Incredible Jimmy Smith !


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Posted by:

Man T

Location: Cali

Subject: The End

I went on Google to search for my favorite drum solo. Yes, quite simplistic in nature, but tell me it ain't one of, if not THE best. And who didn't air drum to this one? (Read between the lines.) Words to live by. During the search I found these other interesting sites. Check them out

OH YEAH!

ALL RIGHT!

ARE YOU GONNA BE IN MY DREAMS TONIGHT?

(Drum Solo)

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU,

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU,

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU,

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU,

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU,

LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU, LOVE YOU.

AND IN THE END

THE LOVE YOU TAKE

IS EQUAL TO THE LOVE

YOU MAKE.

http://www.warr.org/theband.html#TheLastWaltz

http://rockwisdom.com/dbcategories/dbcat1.asp

http://beatle-city.merseyworld.com/lyrics/lyrics/abbeyroad/end-album.htm


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Procul Hiatt

Procul Harum – a review in a recent Sunday newspaper commented that while in the UK, they were somewhat of a one and a half hit wonder (Whiter Shade / Conquistador), they were appreciated much more in North America, which was justice. Given the choice of one or the other, most bands would choose North America. The new one fizzled into the shops here – I saw two 4 star reviews, and two thumbs down reviews. If Pat rates it, I’ll give it a try! But in a DJ’s poll in the UK a few years ago, Whiter Shade of Pale was voted best single ever. It’s probably in my top ten (and my top ten are all equal).

The new John Hiatt is playing as I type- it benefitted from ‘How The west Was Won’ being sold out (H being close enough to L for me to spot it). First impression is … well, a bit generic actually. Nothing’s cut through to me yet, but maybe it’ll grow.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Subject: Edith Piaf

This is a question for the true scholars among you - the soundtrack to "The In-Laws" includes which Piaf song? Knowing this will allow me to conclude a frustrating 15-year search. (I'd thought I ended it a couple years ago with "Les Trois Cloches", but was informed otherwise on the weekend.)


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Please "No Stairway"! / Defense de Stairway

I'm reminded of the scene in the movie "Wayne's World". Mike Myers is in a music store and spots his dream guitar. He picks it up & plugs in, but before he can play that familiar riff, a store salesman tells him to cool it & points to a sign a on the wall that says "No Stairway To Heaven".

As a card-carrying member of the N.G.A. (National Guitar Association), I can assure you that such prohibitions are in violation of certain inalienable rights protected by the Constitution (:-). Give me "Freebird" or give me death!


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Posted by:

Red

Location: London Ont

Thanks for mentioning Procol Harum. A Salty Dog came out not too long after Big Pink and I remember listening to both all summer in 1969. Gary Brooker was here with Bill Wyman's band not too long ago and he was excellent. I always thought he would make a great "stand in" vocalist/piano for some future mythological Band recording. I look forward to hearing Procol Harum's new release.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Following on from Peter V's post, a couple of days ago I turned on the car radio to hear an amazing, and very long, lead guitar break. Only when the full group came back did I realise it was a live version of Stairway. What it was doing on an AM all-oldies station is not clear, but it sure was impressive. I even made a note-to-self to consider buying the CD.

Peter also added to the "Walk Don't Run" discussion, and others mentioned the importance of "Wipeout". As for the latter, I remember my more musicianly classmates circa grade 7 using it as a yardstick for the skill of the 12- and 13-year old drummers in their little bands - 'so-and-so can do "Wipeout" without stopping!'


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Nothing Ventured …

A couple of years ago we mentioned 'Walk Don't Run' - some poll of English guitarists had it as the first thing most people learned to pick out on a guitar. That's a claim to fame!

The opening to 'Stairway to Heaven' was voted by a guitar shop as the tune most people played when trying out guitars. On Monday I was doing my normal new release check, and the tune coming over the sound system in the record store was irritatingly familar - it took far too long for me to realise it was Stairway to Heaven from the new Led Zep live set, How The West Was Won. I listened to Going to California next and decided to buy it, but then saw there were 25 minute versions of Dazed & Confused and Whole Lotta Love on CDs 2 &3 and I decided not to! Anyway, over the last three days the live Going to California was resonating in my head, so I decided to buy it anyway as the 3 CD set is the price of one CD. But everywhere had sold out!


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Posted by:

Ed Voci, Ed Voici, Ed Voce or just Eddie V

Location: Illinois

Subject: Fred, Band tribute, John D

Fred: Bare Naked Ladies for Rag Mamma Rag? If there is one song made for The Gourds, it's Rag Mamma Rag. Max Johnston's fiddle would be awesome. Kevin Russell's voice approximates Levon's from time to time and that song holds a lot of promise. On the other hand, I confess to never having heard BNL, so there goes this week's CD budget. Back to you on that. Btw, is there a BNL CD you recommend?

John D: Not to worry about your earlier mispelling of my last name. My first (and so far only) CD liner note credit, on Larry Packer's "Eye of The Sun" has me as "Ed Voce" (it's pronounced "VOH-chee"). Emory Joseph solved the problem with "Eddie V". Simple is as simple does. Btw, I join the chorus of "thanks" for your Garth & Maud reviews and reports.


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Posted by:

Roger

Location: Moseley, Birmingham, UK
Web: My link

Subject: Django festival - Serge

Serge, I can't remember when you said you'll be in Europe - but I notice in my local park at the top of my road, there's a Django festival. Look at the link. Would you recommend it? Might you be there?


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: Procol Harum / The Ventures

I find myself in agreement with Pat Brennan, especially when it comes to Procol Harum. Their new album, "This Well's On Fire", is a fine return to top form. I also recommend the Procol Harum Live DVD that features 2 1/2 hours of great music, including a December 2001 concert filmed in Copenhagen, as well as rehearsal footage. The Danish tv crew did a fine job of filming, with great close-ups of each group member performing. The detail is so good that you can see how Matthew Fisher sets the stops on his B-3.

The fact that the Ventures aren't in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame is a travesty. Their influence on a generation of guitar players, including many who have been inducted into the Hall, is unquestionable. Here's a trivia question for you: Who wrote the classic "Walk, Don't Run"?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: R&R Hall of Fame

Pat, if you go to the Hall's website and click 500 most influential songs of all time, they highlight those among the list who are in the hall and those who are not. Of course, given that two of my favorite bands are not in there, I don't visit very often. :)


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Speakin' of Birthdays..

I was born Feburary 3rd 1959. That's been sort of a tough thing to carry around ... born on the very day the music died... My mother said to me once that she was sure Buddy's soul must have been up in the air fighting death till he spied a little child bein' born and hi-tailed it back down here and entered into me and that's why I can't live without music... but that still didn't explain why I laid like a rock in her belly til she'd take me to church and that old piano would start and she'd be forced to wrap her coat and purse and hymnnal tight around her body to keep me from pounding my way out. She told me that too.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny
Web: My link

sorry - I goofed. Try again.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny
Web: My link

Subject: Ron Wilson - Safari's link

Pat - check out the link


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Pat = YEAH! Ron Wilson, the drummer, and writer of "Wipe Out" - the greatest drumming song of all time.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

I've just been informed by an esteemed east-coaster that the Ventures aren't in the HoF either. As an adjunct, there should be a surf wing, and the drummer from Wipe Out should have his own kiosk. I know he died a few years ago, but c'mon, that track defines a certain strain of R&R.


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Posted by:

John D

"TRAVIS" doing The Weight.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Kelly Hogan of the Pine Valley Cosmonauts does a beautiful version of Whispering Pines. And Rico Bell of the Mekons covers It Makes No Difference.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Band Tribute cont..,

Counting Crows doing Stage Fright, Black Crowes doing Don't Do It, Train doing When You Awake, Wilco doing Look Out Cleveland, Johnny Cash doing I Shall Be Released, Ryan Adams doing This Wheels on Fire - just thoughts.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

May 29 is Gary Brooker's birthday, he being the voice and pianist of Procol Harum. I only post this because I was mildly shocked when informed that they aren't in the R&R Hall of Fame. Of course, since they just put out an excellent new album, perhaps they are too vital to be considered Hall material. Still, if the Talking Heads are in it, Procol certainly should be.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: More John Hiatt & The Band

I was so knocked out by the two John Hiatt shows I caught this month that I broke down and bought the recent children's movie soundtrack he helped put together ("The Country Bears). Hiatt write eight songs for the film and performed half of them himself, with Bonnie Raitt and Don Henley among those picked to help sing the others. Bela Fleck and Brian Setzer also contribute tracks, and old songs by the Byrds and Elton John are tossed in for good measure. It's lightweight stuff for the most part, but I think it's more geared to grab the adults rather than the kids. Of course, I've heard that Raffi discs don't sell like they did twenty years ago.

Since we've discussed the imaginary "Tribute to The Band" album idea before, I'd like to focus on the female vocalist idea. I'll be seeing Norah Jones and Dar Williams for the first time in the next few weeks, so I agree with including "Bessie Smith" and "Whispering Pines" by those two. I'd love to hear my current favorite female musician--Susan Tedeschi--try her hand (and her fine voice) on "The Shape I'm In," "We Can Talk," "Forbidden Fruit," "This Wheel's On Fire" and about a dozen or so other songs by The Band. She nails Dylan's "Don't Think Twice" so well on her latest disc that one reviewer said she made it sound "like an outtake from Big Pink."


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Posted by:

sandro

Location: hamilton ont

Subject: long live levon

thankyou for the sweet sounds, you are in my heart, may the creator grant you long life.nostalgia envelopes me .


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Oops!

that last bit should have been "...TOO obvious" (mea culpa..mea culpa..)


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Birthdays & band tribute CD

Mine's next month.....the big FOUR-OH (cash donations in lieu of presents may be sent to the Fred Is Forty Foundation at.....)

If I were to put together a Band tribute CD the following would have to be on it:

Bruce Hornsby (preferably doing "Walcott" followed by "Daniel"

Blue Rodeo: In A Staion

Cowboy Junkies: Lonesome Suzie or Tears of Rage

The Gourds: either King Harvest or Jemima Surrender

Elvis Costello & Dianne Krall: a duet on Sleeping

Barenaked Ladies: Rag Mama Rag and/or Ophelia

The Beards (just to keep things international): It Makes No Difference...because we all know Italians can do melodramatic very well it's in our blood and this song just screams out to be sung melodramatically!!

and finally XTC: To Kingdom Come (why? Why not)

furthermore NO (I repeat NO!) versions of The Weight or Dixie just because they seem to obvious


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Posted by:

Lammgurrl

Location: The Mothership

Subject: Jawbone

No, Robertson's birthday is in July.


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Posted by:

Jawbone

Subject: Levon!

The best singing drummer of all time!!!! Happy birthday, buddy!


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Posted by:

Jawbone

Subject: Robbie's 60th Birthday

I thought Robbie's birthday wasn't until August(?)


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Belated Happy Birthday wishes to Robbie Robertson.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Band tribute

Generally you'd want recordings that brought a fresh and preferably recent view, rather than older covers that happened to be successful, so I thought of Cassandra Wilson's recent take on 'The Weight'. Then I realized how many of these suggestions were female vocalists. There's a reason - I guess the originals did the songs perfectly for "male vocals" so that female versions stand out as being a different take without directly competing with the Band versions?


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Posted by:

sadavid

Location: Winnipeg

Subject: Tributes to the Band

Tribute CD concept - I'm thinking Willie Nelson on "Caledonia Mission" with Scarlett Rivera-ish violin on the up-tempo parts. Yes, I'm serious.

I'm also reminded of the many (too many) nights I spent in bars in this town in the mid-70's listening to a band named Wascana (presumably after the Saskatchewan river of that name) - they probably did other stuff as well, but they did enough Band covers that I remember them as The Band Tribute Band.

Or should that be "The Tribute to the Band Band?"


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: Band tribute compilation

Among the recent covers of Band songs, one can't overlook Dar Williams' beautiful rendition of "Whispering Pines". Her version is further enhanced by some nice background vocal support from Alison Krauss & Cliff Eberhardt. Just as Norah Jones gives us a refreshing new insight into "Bessie Jones", Ms. Williams breathes new life into "Whispering Pines", while capturing the spirit that Richard Manuel brought to the song. It's also interesting to note that both these singers chose to interpret more "obscure" songs, or at least lesser known to the general public, rather than do yet another cover of "The Weight". Those two songs have something else in common -- songwritng credit shared by Robbie Robertson, with Rick Danko on "Bessie Smith" and Richard Manuel on "Whispering Pines".


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Netscape Music had the Norah Jones/Willie Nelson duet for RealPlayer. Quite good, indeed.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Auto purchases / The daughters Shankar

John Hiatt- some great reviews in the UK. I haven’t seen a copy around yet. Hiatt’s not on my ‘automatic purchase’ list, which is already far too long, but he is on my ‘seriously consider’ list. Linda Thompson is on my automatic purchase list (Richard is ‘seriously consider’), and in track one of Fashionably Late, ‘Dear Mary’ you get both.

Norah Jones etc. Still trying to get over her sister Anoushke Shankar last night. She’s faster, more fluid, maybe more complex even than Ravi (as you’d expect given the youthful fingers) and her solo set was stunning. Then Ravi came on and was much slower, but it was like watching Hubert Sumlin rather than (say) Eric Clapton, or God forbid, Alvin Lee. Not as many notes, but each one perfectly placed. But once they’d warmed up into the twin tabla solo (with Anoushke playing a repeated simple riff in true rock style) Ravi really strutted his stuff at full speed- he was saving himself for it, I reckon. And that was just Phew! One thing I did learn is that fabulous distinctive sitar “trill” at the start and end of things is on open strings so maybe we could all learn it! But those things have an awful lot of tuning heads, so you’d have to get them in tune first which looks no mean feat. I did think to myself, ‘Garth would have loved this stuff!’ And is probably one of the only Western musicians who could have joined in!

Compilations – surely it’s time for a Band Tribute CD? Uncut have specialized in these as cover discs. So what would go on it? Some new recordings, I hope. But definitely Norah Jones on ‘Bessie Smith’ and Shaun Colvin on ‘Twilight’. This should have some mileage …


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Posted by:

Bones

One of my favorite compilation cds is Open All Night: On The Road, and I could not find it on this site. It features "Somewhere Down The Crazy River" by Robbie as well as great songs by John Hiatt, Wilco, Rosanne Cash, Uncle Tupelo, Luka Bloom, Little Village and many more. It came out a few years ago, so I'm not sure if it still is in print. Great cd if you can get it.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Birthdays

Molly; even funnier than sharing a birthday with Robbie Robertson is that from 1990 to 1993 I was in a serious relationship with a girl whose birthday was Aug.9, the same as Ian Anderson. She didn't think it was funny when I would play Tull all day on her birthday, so the next year she would play Robbie/The Band all day on mine. Of course, I only acted upset!


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Posted by:

Joy Munsey

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Garth Hudson and Larry Campbell

It's been another week, and Treasure Records (website above) has put up 2 more videos. This time, it's Garth and Larry jamming in the studio on "Camptown Races" and "My Old Kentucky Home".

Check it out! Joy


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Posted by:

Marine Depot Aquarium Supplies

Web: My link

Nice site!


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Posted by:

Molly

Subject: JTull Fan

Ok! And if no one else does, I'll make sure I come back to this GB and post you both a Happy Birthday! LOL.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Molly/July 5th

Molly, July 5th is also MY birthday and I don't think I had one post! Tell ya what, I'll use my birthday to remind me to remind everybody about Robbie's. :)


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Posted by:

Molly

Hi, wonderful website. Keep it up. Great to see there are so many people out there supportive of Mr Helm - odd, though, I was looking back at last year's July 5th and saw all of 4 "Happy Birthday Robbie"s. Seems kinda sad.


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Posted by:

Donna

Location: PA

Subject: Birthday's

I like to wish my favorite drummer and the man himself, Levon Helm, a belated Happy Birthday! Wishing you many many more!

Happy Birthday to Frank Ahart, all the Road Warrior's will be camping out at Frank's place for the Doylestown Show, on 6/7. Folks will be traveling from Buffalo, Syracuse,Suffern NY, and MA! Frank Ahart, is the Band Fan with a heart of gold!

Lastly, A Very Special Happy Birthday Wish to a super cool 12 year old boy! Happy Birthday Justin!!!


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Posted by:

Mike K

Location: Baltimore MD
Web: My link

Subject: Yesterday's News

Over the past few months, My fellow bandmates and I have met a lot of people from the guestbook, either up in Woodstock, at the Baltimore Blues Festival, and just through the GB itself. We are all huge fans of the Band, and have had the oppurtunity to meet Garth, Maud, Levon, Butch, and the rest of Levon's band in the past few months as well.

We have been playing music together for the past three years now and have finally recorded out first album here in Baltimore. I know that some people that we have talked to have expressed an interest in coming to see one of our shows and I figured that We'd let you know about our CD Release Party that is scheduled for July 5th here in Baltimore at the area's top venue, The Recher Theatre. If there is anyone that is close by that would be interseted, we'd love to have you at our show and chek out our music. We have a very classic rock feel to our music, with influences from everyone, most importantly The Band.

If there is anyone that is around the Maryland area that would be interested, please send me an email at Kdawg@comcast.net Hopefully we'll get to share our music with the people we feel closest too, fans of one of the Greatest groups of all time, The Band.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: Ok, Peter...

Let's talk about the new Hiatt album. Only been through it twice, neither time on the "big system", only on boombox and my curiously flawed office system. Honestly can't say it bowled me over, and I've been a Hiatt fan a long time, although he's slipped a few releases by me of late including Tiki Bar, of which I've only heard parts. Landreth sounds a bit restrained and in some spots reminicent of previous works. The rhythm section of Ranson and Blevins is fairly pedestrian compared to, say, Double Trouble. Maybe I'll like it better when I can crank it or see them live.

Then again maybe it's the competition. Arriving the same day were Linda Thompson's "Fashionably Late" which is a thoroughly enjoyable, lovely record; the new Ben Harper disk, "Diamonds On The Inside" which is great; and the excellent new Ziggy Marley (sans siblings), "Dragonfly". Both Harper and Marley move through a variety of styles and moods, displaying far more creativity than Hiatt & the Goners who come across, by comparison, as pretty homogeneous. The pick of the litter though has to be Nick Drake's "Pink Moon". What a stunning record. Although I'd heard bits and pieces of his work before, to sit and listen to this record straight through is quite an experience.


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Norah Jones

I was watching the Norah Jones "Live In New Orleans" DVD last week with my wife. I had given it to her as a gift, but when Norah announced "Bessie Smith" by "The Band," my wife shot me a knowing look as if to say, "Who exactly was this gift for?!" Well, we got past that, and proceeded to enjoy Norah Jones rendition of Bessie Smith. My wife, who I didn't think paid attention to such things, said, "Look at the drummer, he's moving and trying to play like Levon!" I was actually thinking the same thing myself.

How about a tour with Levon, Garth, Norah Jones, and John Hiatt?!!


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Posted by:

ruth

Location: asia
Web: My link

Subject: what do you have

Explain to me let us do bussiness togather.


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Posted by:

Justin Banks

Location: Moncton, New Brunswick

Subject: Excellent Website

The Website is excellent. Extremely comprehensive and accurate. A defenite resource for any fan.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Great concept JTull fan. A band tribute concert featuring Ray Charles, Aaron Neville, with special guests Levon and Garth. Well at first glance, Levon and Garth would end up being the highlight, Alan Toussaint of course should be involed. Howard Johnson could do the job though also.

Getting back to Levon's and Garth's involvement in your idea, they of course would be come the highlight of the show. Although, I beleieve it would be like holding back the Red Sea from parting, trying to keep Robbie away. Guess that is the end of a good idea. Probably been thought of a thousand times already, torpedoed for the same reason everytime.

Otherwise I can only imagine how many times tours would of taken place already. I am sure a lot of singers in Aaron's league would jump at the drop of a hat to tour with the likes of Levon and Garth, singing Band songs.

No harm in wishful thinking, hopefully one day it happens. If you ask me , look for it on a real small scale. My money is on IRa Tucker and the Hummingirds singing the Weight at Newport Jazz.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: What Happened to BEG?

BEG.....did you make it down to Garth's show. I kept looking for brown haired girls. Saw some; but didn't want to ask if they were thee BEG. Might freak 'em out a little.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Happy Birthday from the Z's Justin... Matt, Nick and Lynsey all say Hi!!!!

And a Happy Un-Birthday to the rest of ya all... btw, nice pics of the Hudsons... and nice review from the Dylan fan... a yellow hat feather and black leather gloves are nice touches... from that review, I now know the shows musta been great... of course I knew they were gonna be anyway... I sure hope some CD or video comes out... on the other hand, maybe they need to try again... and I'd recommend some wonderful acoustics in MN... Have a Happy Band GB Un-Birthday everybody...


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Posted by:

Norbert's out of office assistant

Location: work
Web: My link

Dear friends,
I'm out of office till June 10th, for urgent matters please contact Mr.I.Woodlark or Mr. Ragtime
Can't reveal my destination (sorry, safety reasons)

p.s. the new herring, delicious! **** (out of 5)



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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Aaron Neville

Aaron Neville can be to Rick Danko what Ray Charles is to Richard Manuel. Would love to hear Neville cover Twilight and It Makes No Difference, to name a few. Better yet, how about a concert comprising Charles and NEville covering the Band, with special guests Levon Helm and Garth Hudson?


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Posted by:

Lil

At the risk of contributing more to what already seems like the Band birthday book, I want to wish a very happy birthday to my favorite 12-year-old in the whole world.. my son Justin. My kids always look here on their birthdays since I started doing this several years ago. So... Happy Birthday Justin!! I love you.

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Giles Stratton

Location: Australia

Subject: Levon's Birthday

Happy Birthday to a truly great American. Please try and get downunder for a tour with the Barnburners...I'll try to get to Woodstock one of these days. May your hands always be busy, may your feet always be swift! Peace to all!


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland
Web: My link

Subject: Nature Boy

Thanks John D.: I am a fan of Aaron Neville and Nat King Cole, two very distinctive voices. Love to hear Aaron' s new album some day.

The song Nature Boy is a magical song. It was written by Eden Ahbez - a peculiar man, 'the first hippy' (look at the web site)... Even here in Finland the song is very familiar to middle-aged and older people. Nat' s version, of course and our own vocal master, Olavi Virta, whose version was named Luonnonlapsi in Finnish...

And some of you know Joseph Losey' s pacifistic film, too!?


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Aaron Neville

NEW YORK (Billboard) - Veteran New Orleans-based vocalist Aaron Neville plans to release an album of his interpretations of American standards. Due Aug. 26, "Nature Boy" is his first album under a new deal with Verve. The collection features Neville working through songs by the likes of Nat "King" Cole, Cole Porter, and George Gershwin, among others.

Neville is joined on "Nature Boy" by collaborators Linda Ronstadt, Roy Hargrove, Ry Cooder, Michael Brecker, Ron Carter, Grady Tate, and Anthony Wilson.

"My folks taught me that music, love and God are all one thing," Neville said. "So in singing these standards -- these romantic songs that get prettier with each passing year -- I feel more than an earthly love. I feel the force of God, the spirit of all love."


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Posted by:

Hal Turner

Location: Southern Indiana
Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon!

Happy Birthday Levon!!! You have been such an inspiration to me for SO many years! I had the privelege of seeing you perform at the Roxy Theater in Atlanta in 1994, and I must say it was one of the top ten days of my life. I have watched the Last Waltz DVD (and laserdisc) at least 40 times. I know that you're having fun when you perform, but it means SO much to your fans (myself included). Thank you from the bottom of my heart for following through on your career. Hal Turner


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Berry Gordy

Too bad that other criminal, Clinton, ain't around to sell Berry a pardon. No fan of Dumbya either. Oh yeah, now the GB's back to normal - but where's that guy from Cleveland TX.


Entered at Wed May 28 02:15:37 CEST 2003 from ottawa-ppp3515946.sympatico.ca (206.172.157.87)

Posted by:

Johnny Mullingar

Location: Ottawa, Canada

Subject: The Band

Thank you. Bless you. Carry on.


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Posted by:

sweet william

Location: Texas

Subject: levon's birthday

happy birthday, levon!/63 and still keepin a pretty good beat! Saw you 70 Tuscaloosa,74 atlanta, 76 hattiesburg and numerous w new band and RCO outfit. Gracias for 35 years of great drummin and singin!


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Posted by:

Chris D.

Location: South Jersey

Subject: Another year better!!

Happy belated Birthday Levon!! As long as you keep making music, I'll be buying tickets! You just keep sounding better with every year! God bless and stay well. Sincerely, Chris Dougherty


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Posted by:

Chris D.

Location: South Jersey

Subject: Another year better!!

Happy belated Birthday Levon!! As long as you keep making music, I'll be buying tickets! You just keep sounding better with every year! God bless and stay well. Sincerely, Chris Dougherty


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Posted by:

Jay W.

Location: Atlanta

Subject: Happy Birthday, Mr. Helm!

I wanted to wish a belated happy birthday to the incomparable Mr. Levon Helm. May you stay forever young.


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Posted by:

Chris Xegas

Location: Australia

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

"

" Happy Birthday Levon! I started listening to the Band about 3 years ago and I was hooked. I bought all the cd's,dvd'd and videos and started learning guitar. Keep the great music coming! All the best Chris X


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Dad & sister

Just back from seeing Norah Jones's dad, Ravi Shakar with his other daughter Anoushke playing in the "most beautiful building in England" (Bill Bryson) - Salisbury Cathedral. The sound, the playing, the atmosphere of that building - and that much talent has to be genetic. To have TWO musical genius daughters! And the old boy can still play as well as ever.

Jimmy- In the dream I seemed to be one of the other older kids who thought it was all a storm in a teacup and tried to calm it, but who ended up resenting the big bully.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Quite often the live sound of an instrument doesn't translate well to a live recording of the same. A piano might sound great in a club but doesn't record well. Could be tight mic placements, could be the mix environment, could be anything. Hopefully Garth will cut the recording some slack. However, one of the reasons Garth is Garth is because of his vision, which would make the cutting of slack unlikely.

I bought "Standing In The Shadow of Motown". Besides being a great music doc, it really made me angry, which surprised me. The monumental fraud perpetrated on these musicians by Berry Gordy--which I was aware of-- makes just about every other scheme I've heard of sound like church bingo. Without coming out and saying it, in fact by barely referencing it at all, the doc underlines the corporate malfeasance that denied these musicians their just due. Bottom line, Berry Gordy is a criminal.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York City

John D, thanks for your reviews this past week! Please pass on the sentiment that a live CD from Garth and Maud would be a dream come true (I guess it's obvious, but it can't be stated enough!!). It would be sad if some little technical gremlin prevented such a joy from coming to pass. After all, projects like Whispering Pines and many of Rick Danko's live releases have less-than-perfect sound quality...but (very luckily for us fans!) the folks involved chose to release them anyway. I surely hope Garth and company can find a way to make this album happen.

And happy birthday, Levon!


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Posted by:

Ray G

Location: Pearl River NY

Subject: Levon

Happy Birthday Levon! Coolest damn drummer I ever heard and saw!!!!


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Colin Linden

In my earlier post, I neglected to mention that Colin Linden is one of the supporting musicians on the Waylon Jennings tribute CD. He plays slide & acoustic guitars on the Jack Clement & Pam Tillis recording of "Let's All Help The Cowboys (Sing The Blues)".


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Willie Nelson

David Powell: Thanks for the follow up info on the song Norah Jones did with Willie Nelson on his birthday special. That Ray Charles performance certainly was the real deal. I thought that Lyle Lovett did a pretty nice job too.

Steven Tyler is not in the same league, but I thought that he did ok. I'm not so sure about Shania Twain. She appeared to be good on the surface, but her performance didn't leave a lasting impression.


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Posted by:

Football fan

Subject: to the Francophile, the Big Kid.

Why not Zizou or Thierry Henry ? They were in my dream...


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Posted by:

Susan

Location: Illinois

A belated Happy Birthday (may you have many more) to Levon. I was not on line yesterday, but I thought of Levon while I was riding in a car for seven hours. It was no doubt reminscent of many a drive between gigs for Levon and the others as they traversed the center of the country. We may have crossed some of the same ground. I wonder if the Hawks argued about bathroom stops as much as my companions did.


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Posted by:

Jimmy

Location: Cali

Subject: Levon, Ronaldo, Beckenbauer and The Kid

Peter V, I loved your Twilight Zone dream as it was very amusing. I was wondering though. Were you Ronaldo, Beckenbauer or the Big Kid with the ball? It was just kind of hard to tell. I personally think so many people wished Levon a Happy Birthday simply because they love him so much. Period. He has given so much to so many people in this world and stayed true to the game throughout. Happy Birthday Levon! We all love you and I hope you can feel it. Hombres Rule!


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Russell, Nelson & Charles

Brother Ray singing, reaching down so deep, indeed made Willie, as well as many others, weep. This was a powerful moment, truly a definition of soul, captured on film. On that magic night, that trio, Russell, Nelson & Charles, were a music firm, counselors of Soul!


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Posted by:

Bones

David Powell: "A Song For You" last night gave me chills. It looked like Ray's singing made Willie weep. What a great moment!


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Posted by:

Bones

John D: Tell Garth and Maud that we would love to buy a live cd from the Senator. I think artists today can get too caught up in the perfection of sound quality. We, the buying public, tend to care more about performance than sound quality. I still listen to beat up lps on my turntable.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: Some Songs for You

Away from the computer/internet over the long holiday weekend -- my only link to cyberspace, a BlackBerry. Belated birthday wishes are in order for Levon, THE MAN -- a timekeeper who continues to improve with time.

Todd Atkinson mentioned the fine televised Willie Nelson birthday concert. The Waylon Jennings tribute song that Norah Jones & Mr. Nelson performed was "Wurlitzer Prize ( I Don't Want To Get Over You)". This classic from Waylon's catalog was written by Bobby Emmons & Chips Moman. For you youngsters, the song's title is a double pun in music on the Pulitzer Prize of journalism -- Wurlitzer being a brand name for both a line of jukeboxes and an electric piano. (Ms. Jones plays a Wurlitzer on her cover of "Bessie Smith")

Ms. Jones also recorded a version of "Wurlitzer Prize..." for the recent Waylon Jennings tribute CD, "Lonesome, On'ry and Mean" (DualTone). This excellent album features a wide variety of artists performing some of the great songs that Mr. Jennings made famous. In addition to Norah Jones, it also includes performances by Guy Clark ("Good Hearted Woman"), Nanci Griffith ("You Asked Me To"), Dave Alvin ("Amanda"), Cowboy Jack Clement with Pam Tillis ("Let's All Help The Cowboy - Sing The Blues-"), John Doe ("Only Daddy That Will Walk The Line"), Junior Brown ("Nashville Rebel"), Robert Earl Keen ("Are You Sure Hank Done It This Way"), Carlene Carter ("I've Always Been Crazy"), Radney Foster with Roger Creager ("Luchenbach, Texas - Back To The Basics of Love-"), Allison Moorer ("Storms Never Last"), Kris Kristofferson ("I Do Believe"), Alejandro Escovedo ("Lock, Stock and Teardrops"), The Crickets ("Waymore's Blues") and Henry Rollins ("Lonesome, On'ry and Mean"). Do yourself a favour and BUY THIS CD -- "Whoop Whoop"!

For me, the highlight of the Willie Nelson tribute was Leon Russell, Ray Charles & Mr. Nelson, together, performing a show-stopping version of Mr. Russell's "A Song For You". Brother Ray continues to show how he can sing with more emotion than anyone alive, and what an awesome song!

"I love you in a place
where there's no space or time.
I love you for my life;
you are a friend of mine.
And when my life is over,
remember when we were together.
We were alone and I was singing
This Song For You."


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Happy Birthday Levon. My sincere gratitude for the gift of all the great music.


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Posted by:

Mats

Location: Uppsala, Sweden

Usually every great band has one or perhaps two geniuses if they are lucky. The Band had five. Look at the name: The Band. No more to say. For me there will never be a better Band. Thankyou... all of you. And a happy birthday Levon and live a long life. Mats


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Posted by:

Adam Kent akent@med.unc.edu

Location: North Carolina

Subject: Happy B-Day

Happy B-Day Levon, Thought you might like to know that I have a five year son who has memorized most of the lyrics to Up on Cripple Creek and would rather watch the Last Waltz than Shreik, Bugs Life, Etc. Hopefully he will remain one of a new generation of fans


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Posted by:

babukishan

Location: india/bombay
Web: My link

Subject: happy birthday to levon.....

hi levon,happy birthday to u........babu worldmusic/babukishan...bauls www.babukishan.com


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: John Hiatt

Amanda: friend of The Band John Hiatt did write "My Baby Blue," though there may have been a tip of the hat to old Bobby Dylan with that one. The song is getting some radio play on the few good stations I hear in my travels, but I agree that it should be getting more exposure.

The Amazon site has a great review of Hiatt's new album posted right now, written by a guy named Jerry McCulley. Here is a sample of that: "...while Hiatt's songwriting efforts are typically strong thorughout, with gems like "Almost Fed Up With the Blues," "My Dog and Me," "My Baby Blue," and "The Most Unoriginal Sin" (originally recorded by Willie Nelson in '93) showcasing his tough wit and tender heart, this is decidedly a band effort...Recorded live in the studio, Hiatt and the Goners evoke everything from chugging Sun Records shuffles to swampy Delta blues, early Ry Cooder and The Band..."


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Posted by:

Bob Reichers ~ WOMR -FM

Location: CAPE COD , MASS

Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEVON !!

Happy 63rd Levon-- you're getting younger (and better) every year-- hope to see you & the Barnburners ( or the Hombres)here on Cape Cod, or nearby somethime in 2003 ! Best Wishes


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Willie Nelson

Speaking of birthdays, did anyone catch the Willie Nelson 70th birthday celebration last night on the USA network? It was from a show taped on April 9th from the Beacon Theatre in New York.
Willie was joined by many guests, including Ray Charles, Eric Clapton, Paul Simon, Norah Jones, Sheryl Crow, and many others. For me, the highlight was Clapton and Willie doing "Night Life."
They both sang great and took tasty guitar solos. Kind of like Eric and Robbie from TLW but in slow motion.

Norah Jones voice gives me chills. She and Willie did a tribute to the late Waylon Jennings, but I don't know what the name of the song was. That girl has more raw talent than anyone singing today.
Sheryl Crow comes close. She turned in a nice performance with Kris Kristoferson of "Me and Bobby McGhee"

A CD from the show is due out on June 24th in the US.

Happy Belated birthday Willie!


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Posted by:

Steven Schwalbach

Location: Wisconsin

Subject: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Levon! Thanks for all the great music over the years. I'm a huge fan. I love your singing voice. Take it easy and keep banging the skins!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth & Maud Live CD.......Maybe Not.......er........Maybe

Garth and Maud had hoped to release a live CD from their week at The Senator. As we speak, Garth and Maud (Mr. Brennan can help me out here) had some problems with the dampers etc. In other words to us the piano sounded great.......to the Hudson's it was not up to CD quality. However; after saying that a few nights were recorded and depending on how they feel after hearing the tapes....it could just happen. They are leaving this morning to go home; after a very successful week. Safe journey home Hudson's.

p.s. Most younger keyboard players would kill to see what a man of 65 can do with those fingers. I have never had the opportunity to sit that close to physically watch his fingers move and bend. He's truly blessed. Levon always said......without Garth there is no Band.


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Posted by:

jerry

yawn...anyone for Pin the Tail on Robertson??..dumb question..


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Glee Club

I would have sang Happy Birthday even if the big kid sat on the football and the other kids didn't jump in with glee. :o)

I love the new John Hiatt cd. "Baby Blue" should be all over the radio. Did he write that song?


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Posted by:

Lil

Stanley: Thanks for sharing your nights with Garth and Maud in Toronto. I love the idea that a live cd will be coming out of those shows...although I wish it could be a video. Garth is just so much fun to watch.

Peter: Funny how sometimes dreams come true, hm?

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

steve coles

Location: OTAKI NEW ZEALAND

Subject: levon helm

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEVON HELM ,YOU ARE THE GREATEST WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO NEW ZEALAND.EMAIL ME AT STEVE.SONYA@XTRA.CO.NZ.CHEERS


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Posted by:

Lars Kjædegaard's Orkester

Location: Denmark

Many happy returns, Mr. Helm

Thanks for all the music

Sincerely

Lars Kjædegaard's Orkester, Elsinore Denmark


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: The Twilight Zone

Lars, what happened in your dream was pretty similar to what happened in mine. You see in mine, this group of kids were in the park playing football. It was a good game. A bit rowdy sometimes especially after a goal was scored, as the kids tended to argue then. One of the kids was a few years older than the others, so bigger, and because he’d been playing since the park opened, he kind of liked to push his weight around. Anyway, one day he’d put in a couple of hard tackles on the smaller kids, and for once quite a large group of the smaller kids retaliated in unison and started having a go at him. The referee walked over, and said ‘Hey kids, calm down now.’ Some of the other older kids agreed with the referee too and said, ‘Come on, leave it out, let’s just play football’. That should have been enough really, as it was the usual bit of verbal abuse, no fisticuffs or violence, but it wasn’t. The big kid picked up the football, and said ‘It’s my football! So if the referee doesn’t call a recess NOW, I’m going to take it away and none of you will be able to play anymore.’ So the referee called a recess, and the kids sat sadly on the grass with nothing to do. Then the referee had an inspired thought! The kids all worshipped Pelé, so he started singing Happy Birthday Dear Pelé. And all the kids joined in all over the park. It was odd because they admired Ronaldo and Beckenbauer just as much, but on their birthdays usually about ten or twelve people had sent cards, not thirty or forty. But now everyone was so relieved at getting their ball back that they started scrabbling over each other to sing Happy Birthday. So that’s what they did. But they didn’t play football anymore. They changed the name from ‘Football Club’ to ‘Glee Club’ and everyone lived happily ever after.

Interesting things that COULD be discussed include John Hiatt’s new one (haven’t heard it yet), Geoff Muldauer’s late 90s live one which arrived this morning, and hopefully a lot more on Garth and Maude’s amazing week in Toronto.


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Posted by:

Lammgurrl

Location: The Mothership

Subject: Levon

Happy Birthday Levon. Robbie still rules.


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Posted by:

Danny-Boy

Location: Tacoma, WA

Levon,Feel the Love Brother, Feel the Love...... Hope to see you real soon....


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Posted by:

Stu Hruska

Location: Westchester, N.Y.

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Dear Levon, Our thoughts and best wishes are with you on your birthday. Many happy returns. Stuart and Marcia


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Posted by:

Marybeth O

Location: Boston

Subject: Belated Happy Birthday

All of Boston wishes you a belated Happy Birthday, Levon...we are always just a day or two late, but it's the thought that counts... Head on back this way, and bring those Hombres with you! MB


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

What a terrific Kotex story. Happy birthday, Levon.


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Posted by:

Sonny Milne

Location: Toronto Regent Park Cabbagetown

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

All Right Levon I still remember the days in the Concord Tavern I was with Robby Lane and we sat in you had black pearl Gretch drums. In the old days you had red sparkle Gretch drums and you gave them to Kirk Shear he replaced me after I left the Hawk. Ron told me you used Kotex on the bottom head of your snare on the recording of Forty Days what a great sound. Come to Toronto soon SONNY mILNE drums


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Posted by:

Larisa McMichael

Location: Newnan, Ga

Subject: Levon's Birthday

Happy Birthday Levon!! I'm a huge fan. Just finished reading "This Wheel's On Fire" and loved every minute of it (except the part about you guys breaking up of course). I missed you when you came to Decatur recently because I was out of town but I plan to catch you next time you're down south. Songs From The Big Pink came out the year I was born and I didn't discover you guys until just a couple of years ago. To say I'm obsessed by the music is probably a reasonable statement. I just love you and the rest of the guys and am so thankful I have this music in my life. Thank you and Happy Birthday!! -- mine is in a few days too. Larisa


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Stanley: I'm surprised by both reviews, actually... I expected nothing short of... "Hey, we just re-discovered some hidden and serious magic."... Oh well, everybody is entitled to their own opinion... here's mine, I'd have paid for Derek's ticket twice over to have been there if I could have just negotiated a way on the homefront (it's a long complicated story ending with a nice yelling match at around 2 pm Saturday)... but not to be (God, I love her passion though)... this time!!!... I've seen the Hudsons 2-3 times now... and I say thank God for the intelligent reviewers like John D and PutEmUp... the Hudsons bring serious magic!!!! Maybe the critics will catch up when the CD comes out... but I'm still disappointed in those reviews... Also, next time somebody sees Elvis Costello... pleeeease, buy the man a drink... I'll throw in for sure...


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Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Levon

Levon- Happy Birthday! Wherever I see you it's always the best show. Thanks for all the hospitality you show your fans. Love when you and Amy touch fingers during the song in the Barn Burner set. Please play alongside Randy Ciarlante soon- your smiles brighten our days.


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Posted by:

Tom Nyquist

Location: the VILLAGE of New Paltz

Subject: It's not easy beating Green

Happy Birthday, Levon.


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Posted by:

G-Man & Donna

Subject: The BOSS

Levon,,HAPPY BIRTHDAY & MANY MORE, Bro !!! Hear there's a new Sheriff in Dodge, and a new mayor in New Paltz, so stay young and keep an eye on Dener !!!


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Viney, is that you?

Somehow I think somebody is using Viney's name on that last post. Doesn't read like the restrained English gentleman I am used to.


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Posted by:

Stanley Landau

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: Garth and Maud

Happy birthday Levon, but I’d like to change the subject to …. Garth (and Maud).

I had the great honour and pleasure to catch both sets Friday night at the Senator. A truly memorable experience.

I saw Garth, Maud and the Cromatix last year in Toronto, and I have to say, much as I enjoyed that one, last night was even more amazing. It sounds like a cliché at this point, but it was like you were in their living room. You got a glimpse of the real people, and wonderful people they seem to be. Garth displayed his incredible virtuosity on the piano and accordion and was dazzling as usual, but for me the big surprise was Maud. Last year at the Hard Rock Café, she had been good, but Friday night she knocked me out. She is a magnificent singer and the two of them are a great team. (I love that moment in The Breakers when she goes up an octave on “you are air.).

On a down note, Friday morning there was a dismal revue of Garth’s week in the Toronto Globe and Mail. The reviewer, one Derek Raymaker, completely missed the point. He thought Garth’s “myriad of tangents” was a bad thing.

Anyway, Elvis Costello and Diana Krall were there for the first set and most of the second and they seemed to be having a pretty good time. Today I was delighted to see another much more favourable review in the Globe and you can reach it by clicking above.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Upstate NY

Subject: Be Careful What You Wish For

This case in study involves a man we'll call simply A. Bandfan. He's watching an empty computer screen that used to be the Band guestbook. He wishes above all else that the guestbook would come back on line, and that everyone could agree on everything. He wishes people could be in harmony and there would be no opposing viewpoints.

Observe as he crosses over into a new guestbook. Everyone is in agreement. Everyone says the same thing. Mr. A. Band Fan, you've gotten your wish....in this guestbook from THE TWILIGHT ZONE. He writes out a nasty letter to Levon (as a test, actually he admires Levon) and after hitting the "submit" button, it says only "Happy Birthday, Levon."

He puts on a Robbie Robertson cd and somehow the first cut is a Barnburner Song. In a panic, he picks up the Brown album and every credit reads "L.Helm." He looks down at the local paper and sees the ad "Coming next week at The Mental Health benefit at Bull Memorial Park, Montgomery, NY...Patti Larkin, "Twist and Shout" and Robbie Robertson and the "Dreamwork Cotton Pickers"...

In a panic, Mr. A. Bandfan looks back at the new guestbook. It's a post from Roz...."Happy Birthday Levon. We love you." Observe the lifeless form of a Mr A. Bandfan....an early heart attack that leads him further...into the Twilight Zone.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Yes

God Bless Robbie !


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Birthdays & "Blues on Blonde on Blonde"

Add me to the Levon's birthday best wishes list--and a belated happy 62nd to his old buddy Bob Dylan while we're at it.

Speaking of Dylan, I think it was David Powell who mentioned an interesting new CD called "Blues on Blonde on Blonde" that presents twelve blues versions of songs from the landmark Dylan album from 1966. The record label--Telarc--obviously didn't know the release date for "Blonde on Blonde," though, as the package says this disc comes "nearly thirty years after the debut" of that album. Dylan was always ahead of his time, so I guess it is hard to believe that the original record was released 37 years ago. Cyril Neville, C.J. Chenier, Sue Foley and Duke Robillard are among the artists involved (and the only ones of whom I'd heard). It's certainly worth a listen for blues fans or Dylan followers--and it might even become a favorite among those who fit both categories. For laughs, there is even a great "Slingblade" bit at the start of the disc. I'm not sure exactly why, but for some reason it works...


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Posted by:

Mr. T

Location: CA

Subject: The Real Deal

Happy Birthday Levon! Your legend is ever expanding. The Hombres Rule and you are the Real Deal! Thanks for everything you have given us all.


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Posted by:

Marty a/k/a tarantula

Location: San Diego via Da Bronx

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Happy Birthday Levon! Hope you have many more to come. And thank you for a lifetime of great music.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Long Live The Bland

Just checked in and saw the new Levon Birthday Book Guestbook. Is this the Band GB or the Bland GB? I hope he has a great birthday too, but as he’s never met me, I assume my wishes mean sweet FA to him. They’re nevertheless sincere wishes. Thanks for a lot of listening pleasure. Tonight when we say our prayers, let us all kneel and pray “God bless Mummy and Daddy and God Bless Levon, and God Bless Robbie and God Bless Garth.” How “great” … no that’s too abrasive a word for today, “nice”… it is to see such consensus. Oh, sorry, was "God Bless Robbie" too contentious? Wake me up when there’s something to talk about.


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Posted by:

cymod

Location: The Garden State

Subject: Greetings from Asbury Park

To the best dang musician in all of Arkansas...Happy Birthday!


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Posted by:

Ragtime

...the only drummer in the world who can make you cry...


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Posted by:

Joy

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon!

(I'm not sure that Levon will even read all of these messages, but I'm going to chime in just in case!)

I'm looking forward to hearing you with the Dixie Hummingbirds, Larry, Garth, Tony and George. Alot of folks have said that this would be the best band in the world if Bob Dylan were added. This is what I say to that: It *is* the best band in the world with or without Bob Dylan!

I feel fortunate to know Larry and to be able to dote on him and listen to all the good music that comes out of the projects that he participates in.

Here's to the best birthday ever with many more to come. Enjoy life, each and every day!

Joy


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Posted by:

John David Locking

Location: R. R. 3, Brussel Ontario N0G 1H0
Web: My link

Subject: McClure Magazine Editing

mcclure magazine on scene magazine vs wallflowers editors huh eh?? ttyl John D. Locking McClure Magazine ATTN: John David Locking


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Posted by:

Norbert

Subject: Mr. Levon Helm

Happy Birthday Levon! ...... thanx for giving, and still going strong, take care ..... you're in our hearts ......


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Posted by:

gerry

Location: portland

Subject: levons birthday

happy birthday..love,gerry


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Posted by:

JCF

Location: New York
Web: My link

Subject: Blues Festival

Happy Birthday Levon!

The above link is for radio station WKCR. They have been airing only blues/ blues realted music as part of their annual Blues Festival since Saturday afternoon. It is still going on


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Happy Birthday to the drummer... and thanks Mr. Helm for inspiring me to get hard again... hey wait a minute, I mean Hard Again... by Muddy Waters... come on people... and, same goes for the Hubert Sumlin CDs and videos I'm loading up on... and his live show I caught... Thanks on your Birthday for always pointing the way out to the gud blues... we loved you and Amy and the guys in Mpls too... a few yrs back... go cat go...


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: Memorial Day in the U.S.A.

Thanks, and prayers - to the service people of the U.S. - past and present.

Happy Birthday Levon.


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Posted by:

Eddie Hodel

Location: Queens, NY

Subject: Levon

I'll say it again, Levon's drumming sounds stronger and better than ever. Looking forward to seeing the Barn Burners this summer in NYC. Happy birthday Levon; you the man!!!


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Posted by:

RED

Location: London Ont

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Have a very good day today, I have seen you many times from the Canadian Squires to the Band (original and new and improved) as well as the nights you played Fryfogel's and at the London Blues Fest. Every time was first class and I hope to see you again soon. A funky back beat to you today


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Posted by:

Bones

Levon: Happy Birthday! Is it 61 this year? You've had way too much fun in your life to look that good! Hope you and yours are well, and I hope to see you this year.

John D: Great story about Elvis and Diana paying for a Garth show. Thanks for sharing.


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Posted by:

Paul Schmitz

Location: Centerport NY

Subject: Birthday

Levon

It was great to talk to last night and the kids singing happy Birthday to you over the phone, they are a chip aint they? Everyone here loves you more than you will ever know. No one is better than you

Paulie


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Sto-Lat to Levon!

Nice to be back on the GB. Must say I was having fun reading the archives from '96 though. Tons of different names and fun to read reviews of Band shows at the time.


Entered at Mon May 26 19:29:49 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Levon "Hidden Treasures" Birthday Show

Due to building problems...cancelled. Levon will be featured next week, as well as others. Same time...same place.


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Posted by:

Lawrence Brissenden

Location: Toronto

Subject: Happy Birthday, Levon!

Happy Birthday, Levon!

Thanks for playing that hot, sweaty night at Jeff Healey's club in Toronto a while back! Hope to see you again soon!


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Levon!

Meeting you with the Woodstock All Stars in 1987 at the Pursuit of Happiness in Liberty, NY was truly an honor.
Can't wait to see you and the Barnburner's soon. Thanks for the music and keeping it real.


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Posted by:

Greg

Location: Rochester NY

God Bless ya Levon, Many more to come. I just met Garth the other night in Toronto, Now you're the only one left that I want to meet!! I just need a quick picture with you, so if you could kindly come and play a gig in Rochester we would alll love it!!!!!, Happy Birthday man!!!


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Posted by:

Alan Berry

Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Happy birthday man, keep doin it. Hope you have many more!


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Posted by:

John Q

Location: SoCa

Subject: happy birthday

What a constitution; a model for us all. Cheers lad.


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Posted by:

Hayden Bates

Location: Poughkeepsie, NY

Subject: Levon's Birthday

Happy Birthday from Poughkeepsie, Levon! I go to Marist College down here and I'd love to get an interview for the campus paper if you ever have some time up in Woodstock. You can drop me an email at shemp83657@aol.com. Have a good one.


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Posted by:

Odessa

Location: Long Island, New York

Subject: Levon Helm's Birthday

Mr. Helm it was an honor to meet you this past summer in New Jersey. I hope you have a terrific birthday and many more happy ones to come! Stay as wonderful as you are! :-)


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Posted by:

The Godfrey Family

Location: Your second home Canada
Web: My link

Subject: Levon

Happy Birthday Levon. Much love to Sandy as well.

Levon, Shannon, Julia & Paul


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Posted by:

John Waechter

Subject: Levon's birthday

Happy birthday Levon. I hope you enjoy many more.


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Posted by:

Pepote Rouge

Location: NY

Subject: Levon

The Heart and Soul of the Band...and a great musician and man...Happy Birthday Levon!!!!!


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Posted by:

Rollie

Subject: Happy Birthday to one of the Kings of Country Music!


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Posted by:

Sally

"HAPPY BIRTHDAY,LEVON"!!! Love,Sally


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Posted by:

Long Distance Operator

A very happy birthday wish to Mark Lavon Helm. May you stay (as Brother Bob might say).... forever young.


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Posted by:

John Cass

Location: VT

Hey Levon.... Happy Birthday!!!! and don't forget to eat a few birthday brownies!!!!


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Posted by:

Troy Elliott

Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee

Subject: Levon

Happy Birthday Levon!! To one of the best musicians to ever grace a stage!!


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Posted by:

Amanda

Web: My link

Happy Birthday, Levon! I love you.

John Rose is broadcasting an Internet radio show today honoring Levon's birthday. The "Hidden Treasures" show will be today from 12-4 PM CST at http://uicradio.ws/ . You can request your favorite songs from Levon and the Band by emailing him at jrrose@uic.edu .


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Posted by:

Gordon Williamson

Location: Inverness, Scotland. UK

Subject: Happy Birthday

Wishing you all the best from across the water. Have a stiff dram on me. Preferably a Macallan Malt Whiskey, it will give you hairs where hairs shouldn't grow!!!


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Posted by:

Mark

Location: Michigan

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Thank you for carrying on the blues tradition at a time when its not commercially rewarding or much noticed by the powers that be


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Posted by:

george and sheri lyne

Location: springdale,arkansas

Subject: happy birthday levon

happy birthday LEVON, from george and sheri in SPRINGDALE ,,,,and from Dr Pickett,too!-LOL


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Posted by:

Jeff

Location: Fresh Meadows, NY

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon!!

Have a great birthday!!


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Posted by:

Fallen Angel

Subject: Happy Birthday Levon

Happy Birthday, Levon. May you have many happy returns of the day.

Take care and be well


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Posted by:

emanuele

Location: Venezia , Italy
Web: My link

Subject: Buon Compleanno Levon

Buon Compleanno Levon! Happy birthday Levon !


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Posted by:

Tory

Subject: Levon's Birthday

Levon you rule! Happy birthday!


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Posted by:

Lil

Happy Birthday Levon! Good health, happiness, and love. Always.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth & Maud

Garth and Maud concluded their week at The Senator last night. It was a great week; with marvelous music. Who was in the front row on Friday night? Elvis Costello and Diana Krall. They were offered to come in for free of course; but Costello said no way. They paid their $25 dollars apiece. Elvis feels that working musicians should get paid for what they do. No uppity star here. Good on you Elvis.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Happy Birthday Lee

Happy Birthday Boss and all the best to you and yours. May you have a "Barnburner" of a time!


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Posted by:

gr8phul

Location: exit 40

Subject: Happy Birthday, Levon Helm!

Happy Birthday, Levon Helm! May there be much more for many, many years!


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Posted by:

Ki Kelly

Subject: Happy Birthday!!

Levon, you're the greatest! Thanks for so much great stuff! Have a really GOOD one , and many more!!


Entered at Mon May 26 12:35:27 CEST 2003 from (206.186.13.171)

Posted by:

Serge

Subject: Happy Birthday

All the best, and continued success Levon. "Stay on the good foot." :)


Entered at Mon May 26 12:17:44 CEST 2003 from 213-48-250-42.cro.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk (213.48.250.42)

Posted by:

keith2003

Location: England

Subject: Controversial Beatles book

Just come across this site, Great! Trawling the web seeing who else that's into good stuff (Band, Dylan, Drake, Waits etc)has read this ace new book 'Living life without loving the Beatles' just published in the UK by Free Speech Books, if anyone else has read it let me know what you think. Love the bit where the authors talking about 'Robbie squeezing every last note dry as the rest of the Band pushed It Makes No Difference to the absolute limits. Regards Keef


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Posted by:

mike

Location: london,england

Subject: happy birthday

levon, you are a musical hero of mine,and i take great pleasure in wishing you a very happy birthday.


Entered at Mon May 26 10:22:00 CEST 2003 from host213-122-19-220.in-addr.btopenworld.com (213.122.19.220)

Posted by:

FRANK

Subject: LEVON

Levon a very happy birthday bro and as our old pal Strother might say ''aint no good preachin to me sister, i,m a vessl which just caint be salvaged''


Entered at Mon May 26 10:19:26 CEST 2003 from 80-194-233-70.cable.ubr01.sa.blueyonder.co.uk (80.194.233.70)

Posted by:

Michael

Location: Northumberland, England
Web: My link

Subject: Happy Birthday!

Thanks for everything, Levon. You represent all that is great in music.

Happy Birthday.. have a wonderful day.

p.s. - *Please* bring the Barnburners to the UK!


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Posted by:

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

Web: My link

Subject: ~Levon~

Levon,,,To all the years bro!!! Happy B-Day,,and many more =)


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Posted by:

Mike

Location: Baltimore

Subject: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday Levon on behalf of me and the rest of my bandmates in Yesterday's News. It was a pleasure meeting you at the Baltimore Blues Festival and hopefully we'll cross paths again with you and the rest of the guys in your band. You have inspired us in more ways than we can possibly tell you. Have a great birthday!


Entered at Mon May 26 08:58:05 CEST 2003 from hoiberg.hiof.no (158.36.51.55)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: Happy Birthday, Levon Helm!

Thanks for all the great music. May there be much more for many, many years!


Entered at Thu May 22 05:25:57 CEST 2003 from (204.60.27.244)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Southern New England

Subject: Levon on SNL

FrankD: Thanks for the heads up re: Levon & the RCO All Stars SNL rebroadcast. I know that they edit those down somewhat. I hope they don't cut out too much.

I remember watching the Band on SNL on "E" and I only remember seeing them perform "Georgia" I've heard that the version of "Dixie" that they did on SNL was awesome, and I would love to see/hear that one some day.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Thanks John D: wonderful... I can hear the Pipes of Pan calling me... to the very end... or maybe it's an accordian... and the lady of the woods... I'm glad you had a great time... and hope you enjoy seconds too...

Thanks for the CD update Lil... I can't wait... and the press should really jump on once they hear this solo... duet thing... it's pure magic...

My kid talked me into a little electric First Act... to replace the be-witched acoustic guitar... which I am gonna try to glue back together this weekend... and of course... hmm hmm, I had to order a Jim Weider video... umm for down the road in case he sticks with it... hey, you gotta justify these things anyway you can... I got one more shot to take to get to Toronto... honey, you need a rest from me and the boys so... ahh it's futile... but anybody who can make the shows this week... do it... you deserve it... especially if you are hanging around here as much as I am... listening to the negative chatter...


Entered at Thu May 22 04:31:47 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: LIVE Garth CD

Lil: now that is good, no...great news. A live Garth CD. Not to seem too pushy, but WHEN?WHEN? WHEN?

Browned Eyed Girl: don't know if you checked this out or not, but at the Guardian website (guardian.co.uk) there is an "interview" with Lou..ou....ouuuu. Sorry I didn't paste the link, but if you go to the Arts section you should be able to find it easily. After reading it you'll realize why I use quotation marks around interview ("interview")

Everybody else: try not to feed the trolls!


Entered at Thu May 22 04:31:18 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Amazing

The internet is amazing..., it's the one entity where folks can think they put a case of whup ass on someone without having to leave their chairs. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


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Posted by:

FrankDracman

Location: the 'skills

Subject: Levon on SNL

Levon and the RCO All-Stars SNL is being replayed. E (ent) 5/30 1pm EST. This is according to the great site = Rockontv.com I highly recommend it for USers. Go there and post when others are going to be on we all might appreciate. ex. Lucinda on Lett. 6/4


Entered at Thu May 22 03:29:37 CEST 2003 from mcha-aj125.taconic.net (205.231.150.125)

Posted by:

Lil

Wow!! I just recieved an e-mail from Maud Hudson, mentioning the anticipation of a live cd of the week-long shows happening in Toronto right now! Now _that's_ something to look forward to!!


Entered at Thu May 22 03:09:52 CEST 2003 from pcp01420654pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net (68.81.34.77)

Posted by:

Carmen

Location: PA - USA

A long time ago, Britain and France were at war. During one battle, the French captured an English Major. Taking the Major to their headquarters, the French General began to question him.

The French General asked, "Why do you English Officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easier targets for us to shoot at?" In his bland English way, the Major informed the general that the reason English Officers wear red coats is so that if they are shot, the blood won't show and the men they are leading won't panic.

And that is why from that day until now all French Army Officers wear brown pants.


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Posted by:

Lee

Subject: Toronto

Nice review, John. Anyone else posting reviews, etc.

Peter, never mind cheap flights just follow your heart and damn the consequences.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to see Garth and Maud in cities like Paris and London?


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Posted by:

Prince Hal

Location: Everywhere

Subject: Loudon Wainright III

Great Comment Kool and as Loudon said in Prince Hals' Dirge: "In a fracus, I'll be ready to fray". Same holds true for most of the world whether they admit it or not. Human Nature my friends.......Now for something totally different

"Hey Packy"

Written by George Gerdes
Recorded by Loudon Wainwright III
From the album "T-Shirt" (Arista AL-4063, 1976)

I been shufflin' a lonesome old trail.
I'm gonna send a letter to my dog in the mail.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.
My legs are tired and my feet are draggin',
But I ain't gonna stop 'til I see his tail waggin'.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.
I heard that proverb tell, a dog is a man's best friend.
There's no more detainin', I'm walkin', it's rainin',
Packy's waitin' at the rainbow, he's waiting at the rainbow's end.
The clouds drift, the world is so wide,
A fellow feels lucky with a dog by his side.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again. A two-bit mutt, he ain't worth a dollar,
But you're sure gonna dig it when he comes when you holler.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.
Here I come...
(instrumental)
You know that
I heard that proverb tell, a dog is a man's best friend.
No more detainin', now I'm walkin', it's rainin',
Packy's waitin' at the rainbow, he's waitin' at the rainbow's end.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' home.
I'm gonna scratch your little head, I'm gonna give you a little bone.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.
Some folks look hard searching for somethin'
They could see so plain in that dog's tail thumpin'.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.
Some folks are wonderin' why they was born.
They ain't never been swimmin' with a dog in the morning.
Hey Packy, I'm comin' back again.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: To the poster referring to himself as “Uncle Sam” (12.236.193.14)

“Uncle Sam” said “Richard, Would you be saying that if it was your family that was tortured and killed by that mad man?” Umm… Would I still be saying what exactly? Would I still be questioning if slurs directed at a nation of people were OK because I didn’t like their politicians? I think George W Bush blows like a 2 dollar hooker in a hurricane, but I don’t hate the American people because of that. I love Americans. I love U.S. culture. I think James Brown is the world’s most outstanding musician ever. Listen to all four discs of “Star Time” sometime and see if you don’t agree. Why isolate yourself from French people just because you don’t like their politicians?


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Dale, what I find funny is people dropping in to do nothing more that distort other people's posts. As "Chuck" wrote: "First off, thanks to Wittgenstein for the nice comment. I like this board a lot better when the focus is on music and above the level of Howard Stern or the World Wrestling Federation myself." Is that "pacifist superiority"? Wishing that posters stay attuned to the musical underpinning of this GB?


Entered at Thu May 22 00:21:04 CEST 2003 from 213-48-62-249.wit.cvx.blueyonder.co.uk (213.48.62.249)

Posted by:

Dave G.

Location: England

Subject: A "Warren Zevon" question for Roz....or anyone.

Roz,you seem to be a woman who knows her music. You may remember me,we discussed a couple of issues about a month or two ago; I was just wondering if you know the artist "Warren Zevon" and if you do,what`s his health status at present?. I`ve been to his official site, and was sad to learn that he was diagnosed with inoperable Lung cancer in the tail end of last year. But I can`t find any recent news re-his position now. I would appreciate it if you could let me know Cheers! Dave (age 31,a huge Band fan!)


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Posted by:

Dale

Location: FL

Subject: Funny Posts

I find the funniest posts of all from Wit and Chuck who proclaim their pacifist superiorty while jumping in and out of the fray like no one noticed. We're all intitled to a little jab I guess. Freedom is a funny thing depending on the angle you are viewing it from. If the negativity bothers you so much why not change the format of the GB? Have a set list of comments where one could check off the comment that most closely applies to their thoughts. Then you could be certain that no one posts undesireable comments. You could even break it down to just two available comments - 1. Good. 2. Bad... Well, maybe not "Bad" because that could be considered negative and rude. Better just have one available Comment - 1. Good. Then if one doesn't agree with "Good", they don't have to check the box. Problem solved.


Entered at Wed May 21 23:51:11 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: 'Should I Stay or Should I Go Now?...'

Ohhh, just stay. Just about everyone who quits comes back anyway. If I wanted a roomful of people just like me I could always lock myself in the bathroom.


Entered at Wed May 21 23:37:50 CEST 2003 from mcha-ai110.taconic.net (205.231.28.110)

Posted by:

Lil

Location: New York

People from all over the world were affected by the events of 9/11...it wasn't only American lives that were lost. The real naive and stupid thing to do would be to lump people into "them" and "us" because of it. Accept people for _who_ they are, not where they come from.


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Posted by:

Dale Loi

Location: Miami, F-L-A

Subject: Pete T.

I say stay, Pete T. A little controversey now and then keeps the pot stirred and makes it interesting. It gets a little stale around here otherwise.


Entered at Wed May 21 22:23:42 CEST 2003 from powellgoldsteinfraziermurphy.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.3.234)

Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: The Godfather

Count it off & hit it "on the one"...Maceo!:

"I don't need nobody to give me nothing, just open up the door and I'll get it myself."
--James Brown


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: THE BUCK

I claim the dollar, I think I earned it.

If people want me to leave the guest book vote yes=leave no=stay. our call


Entered at Wed May 21 22:04:25 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-095.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.95)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject:

At the risk of sounding pious – I’m another Francophile (a rare case of agreeing with Serge, but why not), and I also dislike seeing slurs directed at whole countries and people – any country or people. My great-nephew is 50% French. My family name, so I was told in Marseilles by a voluble hotel porter, is French. I’ve spent a lot of time in France- don’t knock it. I don’t think the spate of “French” jokes on the internet are funny- they’re all recycled 1940s ‘Italian jokes” anyway, and they weren’t funny the first time round either.

As for French music – there’s some significant recent dance stuff, jazz, ‘gypsy’ music and of course Serge Gainsbourg. French pop music was always a bit dire, but they know that too, and I’ve never heard a French person defend its Eurovision depths. The only place I ever saw the Rick Danko Grateful Dead tribute disc from Japan was in Paris- where I also got my Howlin’ Wolf ‘Rockin’ Chair’ album when it was deleted everywhere else in the world.


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Posted by:

Uncle Sam

Location: USA

Subject: Short Memories

Richard, Would you be saying that if it was your family that was tortured and killed by that mad man? Your Country? Real friends stick together no matter what and Tony Blair understood that. Especially when there are miles and miles of Dead Americans over there that bravely and proudly gave their lives for Europe the first 2 times around. Have you forgotten about that part? Short Memory seems to be contagious among the weak and small.


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Posted by:

Bones

John D: Thank you for a wonderful post about Garth's show. I'm even more impressed that you did it at 2 a.m. I love that Garth put in some Band tunes. The great thing about music is that it has no boundaries (although critics certainly try to place art in particular styles). No one shows this more than Garth. What a pleasure!

No offense to Bob Dylan, but I would rather see a documentary about Garth Hudson. I would love to have Garth and Maud come to North Carolina.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Godfather of Soul

I see that South Carolina has pardoned James Brown for his 1988 and 1998 arrests and convictions. Link is on CNN.com


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Richard, I've always like Christgau when he agrees with me. As in this case. It is, as you say, a great essay on a truly fine human being. BTW, I actually sing on the new PVC album, although calling it "singing" is generous.


Entered at Wed May 21 20:03:49 CEST 2003 from schltns-3.demon.nl (212.238.196.9)

Posted by:

Ragtime

Subject: Sais-tu, Acadie, j'ai le mal du pays...

Hello,

I just dropped by for my annual Guestbook visit and read a few contributions. So good to see that all my old Band-friends are still there... and it's reassuring to know that nothing & nobody ever changes.

Hope to see you all next year!


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Posted by:

Richard

Next stop, rocket science.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines
Web: My link

Subject: France / Jon Langford / Mekons

What’s with all the derogatory comments about the French? I’ve heard some pretty nasty racial slurs in here against the French coming not only from new posters, but from a few regulars who I would have thought were more intelligent than that. I don’t understand where this attitude is coming from. Is this about the French non-support of the U.S.-lead attack on Iraq? Did your President tell you to hate the French and you just do it? Is this all about Serge? What kind of an example do you think you’re setting for your children?

Hey Pat B.: Your favorite critic and mine just turned in a great essay on Jon Langford and his various spin-off bands. Click on the link above to have a gander…


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Isn't there a Hoyt Axton song that goes, "Well I've never been to Norway, but I kinda like the guestbook"? Love/hate would be more accurate about now.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

John D, thank you, thank you, thank you. Great review.

I have to say calling this an American website as in the USA is pretty silly. Maybe a Norwegian North American website. And I've never been to France, but I do love Montreal and Quebec City.

David Powell, thanks for the Libby Titus/Love Has No Pride connect. I wish she'd write a book although it would be pretty painful.


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Posted by:

Woodlark (Alouette)

Subject: To Serge

SERGE, merci pour your response. As a provencal-wannabe I admire the PASSION Francaise in everything you write. Hope to meet you in Midi in the summer. Bring your guitar with you and I'll bring my harmonica. Feel free to email me to get my cellular phone number anytime. And if you don't, it's allright, too. No hard feelings.


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Posted by:

Julie Parsons

Location: NZ

Subject: Pictures

I believe Serge's photos are copyrighted so people won't lift them for profit. Most of his pix have been on this site since 1996. I smell jealousy and envy.


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland

Subject: French guitarists

Haa...Pete T...or someone was showing his lack of knowledge of French music and especially guitarists. I must say that France is one of the leading countries in new music today..jazz etc... Some critics say that France is the most exciting jazz country in the world today...

And those French guitarists, hmm... there are many exciting new Djangos out there, for instance Sylvain Luc, Richard Pinhas, Bireli Lagrene, Roger Eon and Marc Ducret.

I hope this Norwegian site of the Canadian band with the American musician will stay globally open. Lets be civilized and international!


Entered at Wed May 21 18:48:07 CEST 2003 from 172.233.252.64.snet.net (64.252.233.172)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Against my better judgment, I'm taking the bait.

Rich: Not that it matters, but I have no "French" blood in my veins. I was born & raised in the United States, and my ancestry is English & Scandanavian. I vote, and I pay taxes. I'm not sleepless, and I'm sitting at a desk.

I don't feel that rudeness has a place here period.

I agree with you that Dylan and America had a huge imapact on the success of The Band, and under different circumstances, they may or may not have "hit the big time. Robbie and money is a different issue. I thought that we were discussing the Band from a musical perspective.

The only reason that I got sucked into this mess was to point out that this web site is not the sole property of the United States. My apologies to the rest of the Guestbook for this "back and forth."
I have no more to say on this isssue.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: John Hiatt One More Time

First off, thanks to Wittgenstein for the nice comment. I like this board a lot better when the focus is on music and above the level of Howard Stern or the World Wrestling Federation myself.

John Hiatt played a solo show at the great 500 seat Birchmere music hall in Alexandria, Virginia last night and it was just as varied and energetic as his gig there two nights before with his Louisiana-based band, the Goners (heck, one of 'em hails from LAKE CHARLES itself!). Live music just doesn't get any better than John Hiatt. I think my ideal concert evening right now might be Nanci Griffith backed by the Crickets (yes, Buddy Holly's band outlived the Experience) opening up for Hiatt with the Goners. Then they could all come out for the encore: a fifteen minute version of "Not Fade Away" with Bruce Hornsby on piano...


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond where the rain won't stop

Subject: Robbie from TLW : "and there weren't enough people to have a fight!'

This GB is just reminding me of Robbie's story in TLW where there are three people in the club including the 1-armed dancer and they have a fight. Sorry, guess I'm stretching to put it all in a Band-related context!


Entered at Wed May 21 17:40:35 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

Remember, "French Onion Soup" is now called "Brown Onion Soup"... "French Dressing" is referred to as "Freedom Dressing"... and the song "French Girls" is now called "Hairy Armpit Girls."


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Posted by:

paul godfrey

Web: My link

Subject: Wildwood Flower

Woody S & Amanda

Many Thanks for your direction.

shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

Wittgenstein

Location: Toronto

A lot of pathetic chauvinism is rearing it's ugly head in this music guestbook lately, making it a place that I don't want to look in on for a while. Thanks for bringing down the level. Having seen The Pianist recently I was vividly reminded again of what ideals of superiority bring to the world.

Thanks to David Powell, Pat Brennan, Charly from down in Ol' Virginny, Serge, Crabgrass, Peter Viney, John Donabie, Bayou Sam, Alan Edge and many others for your enjoyable contributions over time. I often learn things here but the worms are taking over. Hopefully they'll see the damage they wreak, or is it reek?


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Posted by:

Deeb

Subject: Serge - DB Donkeys?

Serge, I have no idea what you are talking about....I am trying to write a research paper for my history class.

What did I say to offend you?


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: Georgia

Thanks to the eloquent John D., for sharing some of the moments in the presence of two gifted people.

Calvin mentioned Libby Titus. Ms. Titus co-wrote the modern classic, "Love Has No Pride", with Eric Kaz. This beautiful song has been covered by many fine singers, including Bonnie Raitt, Tracy Nelson, Linda Ronstadt and Rita Coolidge. I once had the pleasure of hearing Ms. Nelson perform an incredibly powerful rendition of this song in a small club -- one that brought tears to the eyes & a fluttering in the heart. I would really like to hear Maud Hudson sing this song, accompanied by Garth.


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Posted by:

Dexy

Subject: good stuff

John D -- Thanks for the Hudson show post. Really wish someone would get the Hudsons into the Midwest. Likewise, the Treasure Records video is great. Wonderful to see Garth and Levon jamming.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Peter V & All

I wrote my review at about 2 in the morning. Just a few afterthoughts here. Peter; although your line about "catching a cheap plane fare to Toronto" was in jest, I can't tell you enough; or anyone for that matter, that if Garth takes this show to your town it's the equivalent of being starved for a very long time and then finally for one night you get the "feast" you've been waiting for. I think after years of "waiting for Chest Fever" for your Garth fix......this will more than make up for it. Because the room is long and narrow; it's very living room "like" and Garth makes you feel like your visiting him at his home. I saw more musicians (keyboard players) in the room last night. It was like a convention. Garth also got to meet a cousin he had never met before. His grandmother and her grandmother were sisters. Garth immediately made her feel like family.

Oh someone e-mailed me and asked me the length of the show and the names of all the tunes. 3 hours in its entirety. He did one hour straight through 9:30-10:30....took a 15-20 minute great and then he and Maud went right through to 12:45 a.m. With the exception of Maud's singing and a mention of Gershwin, he never talked about the piano titles. There was nothing played from "Sea To The North." Peter; if George Harrison was the "quiet" Beatle then Garth would probably get that same moniker as a member of The Band as we all know. To see him blossom and shine.....smile and laugh.....play what he wants to do........ in the way he want to present it........this is a man who actually has kicked it up a notch or two; if you can believe that. After seeing him last night.....I do beleive it!


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Correction

Sorry for the mistake in my previous post. I meant to say "Robbie & Levon" not "the Robbie & Levon"

This American needs to work on his proof reading!


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Grasping At Straws

Rich: I was actually trying to emphasise that the Band has international "roots" rather than purely American. Manfred T referred to this website as "American." I don't think that that position is fair to the music fans who visit this site from around the world or to Jan, who hosts this site from Norway.

Yes, the Robbie & Levon did play with Dylan at Forest Hills in New York, but it was their show at the Manchester Free Trade Hall in England in 1966 that will go down in history. Their music is certainly steeped in America, and I guess you could trace a lot of that influence back to Africa. A lot of people feel that Robbie's songwriting is so effective because of his ability to look at the US as an outsider, even though most of his work was created here. I think that it was Ronnie Hawkins who brought Levon to Canada, and subsequently hired the men who became Hawk's, and then the Band. Thank you Richard for backing me up on that.

I guess my point is that the Band had a unique perspective which contributed to their success and popularity in the United States as well as internationally. I don't usually get political, or Nationalistic, but maybe instead of looking at everything as "us vs. them" we should just look at it like we're all in this together.

Hope that clears up my point of view.


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Posted by:

Michael

Web: My link

Further to Brien's last post, click above for more info.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: FYI

Just read in the NY Post this morning that Dylan will sit down with Martin Scorcesse to do a filmed interview. To read the brief article, go to: www.nypost.com , then click the Entertainment button.


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: John D.

Thanks for the lovely description of Garth's and Maud's show. You made me feel like I was there and incredibly jealous--all at the same time.


Entered at Wed May 21 13:12:01 CEST 2003 from mcha-ah066.taconic.net (205.231.30.113)

Posted by:

Lil Again

Jan: I realize you probably don't recognize it when it's horizontal, so how's this?:

J
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:-)


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Posted by:

Lil

John D: Thanks for your wonderful post about your night with Garth and Maud! Wish I could've jumped in the mighty Lumina and joined you all, but my kids have this weird habit of wanting to eat, so I had to work, as usual. Give them both a hug from me if you go back to see them again, ok?

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines
Web: My link

Subject: Louis Armstrong - An American Success Story?

Rich Cotton: I think what Todd was saying is that The Band are 4/5ths Canadian (i.e. from Canada). Correct me if I'm wrong Todd. You might want to take a minute to read the articles on this site by Rob Bowman (see link above) which will give you a detailed history of the group. Also check out Serge's great pictures of the Hawks and the Band in the "pictures" section of this site.

John D.: Your description of Garth and Maud's Toronto show was terrific,,, go again and give us some more reports, OK?


Entered at Wed May 21 10:20:23 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-059.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.59)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: John D's report

Thanks for describing the evening so well, John! The thought of it alone is great, but being able to see it twice in a week is awe-inspiring - almost had me looking up cheap flights to Toronto!


Entered at Wed May 21 09:06:42 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

John D: thanks for the "report"...for those of us not able to be in Toronto to catch the Maude & Garth show.


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Posted by:

Rich Cotton

Location: LA

Subject: The Band - A Canadian success story?

I could be wrong here, but I thought The Band got their real start playing with Bob Dylan in America. Don't you think you are grasping at straws a little there Todd? Or are you saying they were mostly a Canadian success story that caught on later in America as an afterburn? Using that logic, shouldn't everything and everybody in the world really be considered African? Or better yet from the Garden of Eden? Where is that anyway?


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Toronto

Subject: Garth & Maud Opening Night

It's 9:20 p.m. We are on the 2nd floor of the Senator Restaurant and Jazz Room The room has been filling up since 8:30.

Suddenly out of the darkness Garth and Maud make there way to the left of the stage. Maud makes herself comfortable at a table. Garth is moments away from opening night. There is a Yamaha Grand Piano.....a small electronic keyboard and an Accordion on the stage.

It's almost show-time and I'm asked to introduce Garth. I am deeply honored. I mention the fact that we are just 1 short block from 333 Yonge Street the site of Le Coq' Dor where 40 years ago Garth Hudson was a Hawk. I ask Toronto to welcome him home and the place gives out a massive cheer and applause. Garth wastes no time.

He sits down at the keyboard and the magic begins. His fingers are moving rapidly between different rhythms. One moment it's classical in sound and within a flash he is into a boogie woogie & then on to a jazzy feel. As he said to me in my interview last Saturday, "John, it's all in the left hand." Everywhere once in awhile he yells out he's in 6/4 time or some other time signature. At one point he begins to sing. Almost sounding like a sailor singing a shanty. For the next hour he goes from Gershwin to other melodies that I do not recognize. He can be very comedic with his movements and quick comments into the mike. I notice that he may have a touch of Victor Borge in him. Flailing his arms and spinning in his chair........never missing a note and still keeping people smiling. The music continues as he moves from one instrumental to another flawlessly. Then it's Intermission.

I'm asked again to bring him on along with Maud Hudson who is now on stage. Maud begins with Willow Weep For Me. Garth follows that up with a 15 minute Gershwin moment. Time for Maud once again. This time it's Blind Willy McTell. Another instrumental from Garth and back to Maud with a gospel number. Back to Garth who goes into an instrumental (which I don't know) and suddenly it begins to sound a little familiar. It's the beginning of "It Makes No Difference" with Maud on Vocal. Garth then does a dazzling instrumental that reminds one of "The Genetic Method"; but more jazzy. It turns out to the a "Genetic Method of sorts that takes us right into "The Weight" which Maud does uniquely and brilliantly. Maud really does have a way with a song that makes it her own.

I forgot to mention that in both sets Garth takes up the Accordion and gives us many different melodies and bellow shakes. Suddenly you realize it's 12:45 am and they are saying good night. My wife gives Maud a gift of a teapot and Jasmine tea. She loves here tea and is quite happy about that. I say goodnight to Garth and he and Jan Haust invite me back again to introduce him whenever I want. I'm touched. He then mentions to the audience that the next night he'll pay tribute to Ronnie and Rick and Richard. "One night down and five to go John," says Garth as I make my way out into the night thinking back to the a very full evening of Garth Hudson. Kudos to Maud for the vocals. When they look at each other you see that of love and mutual respect. It was a great night. Looking forward to going back another evening this week.


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Posted by:

Manfred T.

Location: The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave

Subject: Groveling and Begging for Mercy

Before you criticize another's English, you may want to proof your own. That said, I love to see a Frenchman grovel. Does my heart good knowing you realize the error of your ways. Kind of pitiful though, so I accept your apology. We Americans hate to kick a man when he's down, even if he is a backstabbing coward.


Entered at Wed May 21 05:46:10 CEST 2003 from ptnm-sh6-port175.snet.net (204.60.19.175)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Accuracy

Manfred T: I'm not trying to take sides, or put anyone down, but isn't this website international rather than strictly American? It's hosted in Norway, and it's principal subject is a band that's 4/5th's Canadian. The Dixie Chicks however, could be considered American. I agree with you in spirit; just not in the details.


Entered at Wed May 21 05:33:34 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.252.101)

Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Libby Titus

Ya never know when Band connections will appear. I was listening to a Bonnie Rait Boot from 1973, featuring Lowell George on Guitar and John Hammond on Piano-when she introduces a song as written by her good friend Libby Titus. I had no idea Libby ever wrote any songs-learn something new every day I guess.

And boys, regarding the French thing, steap back, deep breath, be nice.


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Posted by:

Long Distance Operator

Subject: The New Icon

Jan, that new icon appears to be the alternate cover for "Jubilation".


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Posted by:

Lee

Subject: Garth & Maud

Best wishes to Garth & Maud for the upcoming shows.

I'll be in Paris for a few days in July. Won't be there for Disney and I won't be there for Gypsy... Baby, baby, baby I'll be there for Rock N Roll.


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Posted by:

Manfred T.

Location: The Good Ol' U S of A

Subject: Cowards and Backstabbers

I'm just wondering why anyone from France would even think about posting on an American Website, much less show arrogance in the process. Not that there's anything surprising about French arrogance, but arrogance mixed with irrelevancy smells worse than that French mascot Peppy Le Peu. I would suggest trying the Dixie Chicks board. You might find more folks in agreement over there, but then again I'm not sure that's what you're after in the first place. Reminds me of that little Chicken Hawk going up against Foghorn Leghorn. "Son, I say Son, get away from me now, you bother me." Swat. Just seems like referencing silly little cartoons is the only way to describe the situation accurately.


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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: NY

Subject: One More Dollar

PETE T.- You're getting close. The defense minister of the USA was asked a question just before the latest Iraqi War: How are you going to fight Iraq if France doesn't join your coalition? Mr. Rumsfield replied, "Going to war without the French army is like going deer hunting without an accordian player."

In truth, I would never condemn an entire nation or a race of people. When I spent a summer hitching through Europe (a LONG time ago) I would stay at student hostels and we would compare notes. Austria and Norway have beautiful scenery, England is the easiest country to hitch-hike in, France has the most arrogant people anywhere. So I went into France expecting a lot of rude people and all I met were good ones. Throughout the countryside people were very kind to me. So I guess it only proves that's what's true for one person isn't always true for another.

Before I left Europe I was telling someone in some hostel that the French were very good to me. He smiled and said, "Yes, but did you go to Paris?" I told him I tried to avoid cities. "Then you never met the RUDE people of France."

So here we are with Serge not only going back to Paris and southern France, but he was actually RAISED THERE! IT ALL FITS! Serge has been using the gb to bone up on his arrogance. And I think he will stand up to anyone, anywhere, and come out number one. Serge, you are the man. Hurt us all you want....but please don't ever leave us.


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Posted by:

Cousin Paul

Location: Niagara Falls Canada

Subject: Garth Hudson

Going to see Garth tomorrow night, Wednesday. We have dinner/show reserved, but will be at the Imperial Pub, just down the street at about 4:30 if any G.Bers are intrested in hooking up. Will have a good time and post about it!!!!! Be good Paul.


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Posted by:

Penny

Location: Utah

Subject: love "the band" And "Robbie "

I've listened to your music for years and still today. I only wish I could hear more on this web page, so I can turn others on to it.


Entered at Wed May 21 01:15:36 CEST 2003 from cc5414-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl (212.120.101.7)

Posted by:

Norbert

Web: My link

Subject: KaZaa down: HOLLAND FALLS FOR DAYNA KURTZ

DAYNA KURTZ (NYC), "new" in Holland...... great!!! ...... must be Band related ......


Entered at Wed May 21 00:56:04 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.252.101)

Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: France

France sucks?


Entered at Wed May 21 00:39:53 CEST 2003 from h-68-164-231-111.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.164.231.111)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Pete T, I'm sorry, you're still in the realm of nationalism. If you could work in some contemporary political commentary--"Freedom Fries" (hint, hint)--then we'll take a look at it.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Hold on there, Pete T, I believe that technically your post was more nationalistic than political, although the line between the two is quite ill-defined. Having been given the mantle of GB Hall Monitor, my word goes. The $1 is still in play. Post away.


Entered at Tue May 20 23:55:09 CEST 2003 from dial2a-46.i2eyenet.com (64.80.2.46)

Posted by:

Hi

Subject: Garth, Larry,Tony, Levon video

That link Joy just posted to the video at Treasure records is priceless......especially Garth and Levon fans should take note.


Entered at Tue May 20 23:07:55 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-008.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.8)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Happy to admit it …

Serge- I found the Django site interesting. Yes, I went and looked. And no, I know absolutely nothing about gypsy music, except seeing some in Spain, and also seeing some good flamenco there, but I wouldn't know the difference between the two. I did see the original Antonia Gardes flamenco Carmen in Madrid with Paco de Lucia in the mini orchestra of three guitarists and it was one of my best musical evenings. And I've seen Paco de Lucia since. So I can imagine that there is really great stuff about, and I'm sure Paco isn't gypsy music, but he is a great guitar player. But I don't know about it. I've no wish to ram Disney into anyone's orifice. Enjoy it. I'm sure you will.


Entered at Tue May 20 23:05:54 CEST 2003 from ip68-10-78-33.hr.hr.cox.net (68.10.78.33)

Posted by:

Joy Munsey

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds Update

There was a new video just posted at http://treasurerecords.com featuring Larry Campbell, Tony Garnier, Garth Hudson , and Levon Helm on the swing standard "Avalon".

Joy

http://members.cox.net/larrycampbell2000


Entered at Tue May 20 23:05:02 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Just when the GB gets slow...

a fight breaks out! Any bets as to the day and hour politics get sucked into it? I say 7:16 am eastern standard time (U.S.) tomorrow. Minimum bet: $1.00 U.S., or .95 Euros.


Entered at Tue May 20 22:42:18 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.83)

Posted by:

bob wigo

"Maybe I finally found something the "scholar" knows nothing about. Eh ?"

I'm sorry. Did someone say something about people here being concerned with "oneupmanship"?


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Posted by:

Bones

Martin Scorsese is directing a documentary (in the same vein as the Last Waltz) about early Dylan. He has Dylan's blessing and will include rare interviews with the artist himself coupled with concert footage. The film takes Dylan's career up to 1966, so I doubt if the Band will be too involved.


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Posted by:

Deeb

Subject: College Paper

Does anybody know how I can contact Robbie Robertson without invading his privacy? I am doing my Junior Seminar paper in history on Native American contributions and would like to get the story on how he managed to get Native American Music as a category for the grammys.


Entered at Tue May 20 21:24:26 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.150)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Web: My link

Subject: John D. -- Garth Hudson

John, I hope you have a marvelous time. Enjoy every note.

I've attached a link to the website of the Kimmel Center here in Philadelphia. In 2006 the center will debut it's concert organ comprised of six thousand pipes. Although it's a bit into the future wouldn't it be something to hear the great Garth Hudson push that behemoth to its limits? If there's an opportunity please pass along the site address to Garth. There's contact information there. I would be first in line to hear that performance.


Entered at Tue May 20 19:48:14 CEST 2003 from wc12.mtnk.rnc.net.cable.rogers.com (66.185.84.207)

Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth & Maud

Just spoke with Maud and they have "landed" in Toronto. They've been here a couple of days and are now doing some TV Press; before tonights show. Should be a treat.


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Posted by:

tony

Location: chicago

Subject: norah jones' "bessie smith" at tribeca

Just flipping through the tube and saw a concert on mtv celebrating the Tribeca film Festival (hosted by Deniro). To close the show, Norah Jones did her version of Bessie smith. I never heard it before. Boy, this girl can sing. I almost turned it off not realizing what song she was doing, but then i heard that keyboard and I kept it on. Would've been better to hear Robbie's guitar licks. Anyway great to see The Band on TV in some fashion (wonder how many of the people in the audience had a clue). Proof once again that you darn East Coasters (NYers) have cornered the market on anything Band-related! Throw us a bone out here in the midwest!!

"Now all the crazy things that I had to try
I tried them all and then some"


Entered at Tue May 20 19:09:10 CEST 2003 from 28.ppp144.rsd.worldonline.se (213.204.144.28)

Posted by:

Woodlark

Location: Nordic Countries
Web: My link

Subject: To Susan (about OPERA browsers), Serge and gypsy music

Hi Susan. I use Opera 6.05 but I have visited this site with earlier Opera versions as well. Never had any problem. Opera 7 (which you mentioned) has a very powerful email client - almost TOO powerful for me. It saves all emails and attachments and addresses in many different places. If you are security minded it takes awhile to clean it after you have used it. I installed Opera 7 but then I uninstalled it and went back to 6.05. I am such a nostalgic guy - I have installed the original REMINGTON type writer sounds to my Open Office as well!

SERGE! Seriously, You shouldn't attack the people living in South of France. "We" who "live" there won't let you change the file while driving the autoroute to Marseille! Please come to Camargue and Arles and you'll meet the living gitane culture. Please email me and I'll give you my cellular phone number so we can meet in South of France in the summer and mess around!!! We'll invite Norbert, too! OK?

Email: woodlark.geo(Danish pastry)yahoo.com
My link is (only) my gb vCard


Entered at Tue May 20 19:06:52 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

John Cass - I saw Joe Cocker at Central Park in NY once. This had to be sometime around the early '80's. He came on stage looking very rumpled and disheveled. He apologized for his unkempt appearance with the statement "Sorry, I just woke up -- I've been sleeping since the '60's!" And proceeded to put on a great show.


Entered at Tue May 20 19:00:23 CEST 2003 from citrix6.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.4)

Posted by:

John Cass

Location: VT

Subject: B-Day

Happy Birthday to one of my favorites.... JOE COCKER!!

any funny stories or concert stories from anyone in this GB regarding the Mad Dog... I would love to hear em!!


Entered at Tue May 20 18:38:55 CEST 2003 from bi-02pt1.bluebird.ibm.com (129.42.208.182)

Posted by:

Chris

Location: Westcheseter

Subject: Pilgrimage to Big Pink

Hi... For fun and amusement, I think it's time to finally take a trip to the hallowed ground and the surrounding area of Big Pink. As a major Band fan, I've been wanting to do this for a while (and it's not that far from here, don't know why I've waited so long). So, now that I have some time off, I'm finally going to make the trip -- one day next week after Memorial Day. If anyone else will be in the area, it would be great to meet other Band fans as well.


Entered at Tue May 20 17:57:04 CEST 2003 from mcha-ag045.taconic.net (205.231.148.236)

Posted by:

Lil

Subject: new icon

Jubilation?


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Posted by:

tony

Location: chicago

Subject: bones

Hey bones thanks for the heads up on that '70 tour of canada. I've been hearing rumblings about a film of that for a long time. Wouldn't it have been great to have had a camera on that train with Jerry, Richard , Janis, etc.. (if those walls could talk..). Whatever they put out will be fantastic I'm sure. do you know if there's any concert footage? Any jam sessions on the train? If you have any other info on this project please email me alupo80ataol.com. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

John D: Wishing you a magical night also!!!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Sorry Ed..... 1 two many i's


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Doug Sahm & Ed Voici

Thanks Ed for getting me in a Doug Sahm frame of mind this morning. I had forgotten that when you put his early works....Sir Douglas Years........The Atlantic Sessions with Dylan & Friends and the Texas Tornados.......you have one great musical journey for the late Mr. Sahm.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thanks Lil

Thanks Lil........Looking forward to it. Just listening to a recording of Garth & Maud doing "The Weight" I only have about a minute and a half of it. Sounds great with solo piano and vocal. I believe this will come out eventually on CD.


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Posted by:

Joy Bergstrom

Location: New Rochelle High School
Web: My link

Subject: Very Old Friend

Hi Bruce, I heard that you were playing at the Old Cesario's the night before my 40th reunion but I can't get there. How are you. Do you remember me? You look great! Can you stop by the NRHS on Sunday June 1st to say hello? Joy


Entered at Tue May 20 14:06:08 CEST 2003 from mcha-ah045.taconic.net (205.231.30.92)

Posted by:

Lil

John D: Wishing you a great time tonight! You're lucky that you're getting to see Garth and Maud (and they're lucky that they're getting to see you!) Hope all 3 of you have a wonderful night.


Entered at Tue May 20 10:13:46 CEST 2003 from (218.145.25.43)

Posted by:

Johnny Canuck

Location: Canada ( currently in South Korea )
Web: My link

Subject: Love the Band (missing Rick Danko)

Thanks so much for this totally GREAT BAND resource site !!! IT's really the best i've yet been able to find on the net. Sooooooo many great musical memories :) As it stands i've been thinking a lot too lately about the tragic & untimely loss of Mr. Rick Danko. I can still clearly remember being out on tour in a club down in Vancouver when i heard the news back in December of 99'. He really seemed to have an incredible & loving spirit :) After being here for a spell the other night i ended up surfin' on over to Rompin' Ronnie Hawkins' homepage. Not that i'm in the habit exactly of emailing "celebs" but as it turned out i felt moved enough to drop the guy a line. Defying the odds, it seems he's bounced back from a bout with cancer; he's now AMAZINGLY got a totally clean bill of health. Anyways, it blew me away today when i checked my email & discovered he'd got back to me through his secretary. Highly instrumental within the course of modern music history, the guy is one total class act. Long live the BAND !!! JC. "Everything dies baby that's a fact, but maybe everything that dies someday comes back ..."


Entered at Tue May 20 09:52:08 CEST 2003 from as3-1-136.hip.berkeley.edu (136.152.194.58)

Posted by:

Dave Hopkins

Location: Berkeley, CA

Speaking of Augie Meyers, I just got back from seeing him play as part of John Hammond's band in Oakland. At least half the set was Tom Waits songs, mostly from the "Wicked Grin" album Hammond did a few years ago which Waits played on and produced. I would've liked to have heard more bottleneck slide from Hammond (only one song), but well worth the $10 ticket price nonetheless.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois
Web: My link

Subject: Doug Sahm, Texas Tornadoes

The above clip is a short video of Sir Doug, Freddy, Augie and Flaco tooling around in a Caddie, telling stories, all with a "Are You Goin' To San Antone" backdrop. How did Doug and Rick ever hook up? Never mind, I probably don't want to know.


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Posted by:

Mike Keaton

Location: Bedrock

Subject: Actors

Better than Barney Rubble even? I'm partial to Coal Miner's Daughter actually. The man can do no wrong. Anything he wants.


Entered at Tue May 20 04:10:44 CEST 2003 from va-spotsy-cuda1-c5b-95.frbgva.adelphia.net (68.65.37.95)

Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Levon With Jane Fonda

During a special TV program tonight for the 50th anniversary of the ABC network, a short clip of Levon with Jane Fonda from the TV movie, "The Dollmaker," was shown. I remember seeing that back then and thinking that Levon was an excellent actor.


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Posted by:

Susan

Subject: little pink and opera

Well, I don't see any little pink house, and I do use Opera, and second Jan's recommendation. Of course that could be because I'm still using 5.01 and they are up to 7.1 now. I know, I should upgrade, but I should also reinstall my OS, and I have not had the time or energy to do that for more than a year. Anyway, Opera is a very fine browser and it's cool, too. Computer geeks are impressed, and think I know a lot more about the tricksy little devices than I do.


Entered at Tue May 20 00:11:58 CEST 2003 from mcha-aj175.taconic.net (205.231.150.175)

Posted by:

Lil

Having a Band/John Mellencamp moment here as I just tried Jan's handi-work in the 'time to kill' department on my 'favorites' list from this site.(A good example of a run-on sentence :-) Little pink houses for you and me.....


Entered at Mon May 19 23:41:44 CEST 2003 from (206.186.13.203)

Posted by:

Serge

Web: My link

Subject: Viney

My sole purpose is to attend the Django Reinhardt Annual Fest. Spanish gypsies, such as Manitas de Plata or the Gypsy Kings are commercialized repetitive boring stuff after a while.. They sing in Spanish although they're all French citizens living in the south of France. I am talking about non-singing, swing groups of gyps guitarists from Germany, Holland, Belgium, France and even England etc.. who converge yearly to Samois, 30 min. from Paris. Django is buried in the local cemetary. Check it out. It'll give you a whole new appreciation of guitar playing. Check out the site. Click on NEW...


Entered at Mon May 19 22:31:42 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.85)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: An American in Paris

From all I've heard and read it would have been well worth the trip to Paris to see and hear the great Dexter Gordon perform. Great music is great music in any language. I would have been thrilled to see an American jazz master of Mr. Gordon's musical stature no matter where he performed.

There are many American musicians who have blossomed and grown on the European scene. I sure would not have passed on seeing Louis Armstrong play there....or anywhere else for that matter.


Entered at Mon May 19 21:55:44 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-223.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.223)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: To my best pal …

Serge – would I ignore my best pal? No way. I just took your point that you knew the area. I agree that one doesn’t go to Paris to listen to American music (though you’ll find a far better American jazz / blues selection than in most US cities there). I also like “gypsy” guitarists but I’ve heard more Spanish than French personally. My tour guide bit was merely to point out that it’s worth checking the paper for a venue at EuroDisney (or Disneyland Paris or whatever this year’s name is) where both Taj and Garth have appeared comparatively recently. Having done a few working tours in France, when the park first opened, French people tended to be very anti. After ten years or however long it’s been open, I pick up that more now see it as a good place to take the kids on a wet weekend and have accepted it. They grumble about cultural imperialism, but it wouldn’t be France if they didn’t grumble a bit, being more like the British than they’d care to admit. Maybe you’ve found differently, but I noticed a distinct change of attitude among parents of young kids. And Space Mountain in Paris is SO much better than Orlando …


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Posted by:

Bones

Didn't Bob Smeaton direct that wonderful Classic Albums documentary on the Band? He is currently directing "Festival Express", which recounts the story of the legendary Canadian tour of 1970 with The Band, Janis and the Dead. The movie costs about 3 million and is being pitched by HanWay for a possible theatrical release before video. The movie has recently discovered footage of the train tour, and it is being cut together with interview footage of some of the surviving musicians.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Emmylou...John Hiatt

Yesterday on CBS news radio I heard a beautiful clip of a duet between Emmylou Harris and Sheryl Crow from the June Carter memorial service. I'm not sure what the song was, but I wanted to hear the whole thing.

Last night John Hiatt and the Goners turned in a roller coaster ride of a show here in Virginia. I've been to several Hiatt shows, but this was the first one with the Goners (including the amazing Sonny Landreth on guitar) and they do add an extra edge to Hiatt's brilliant songs. It was a little like Neil Young with Crazy Horse, but more to my taste.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines
Web: My link

Subject: Vassar Clements / Stephane Grappelli

Several years ago, Stephane Grappelli joined Vassar Clements to record a great CD, appropriately titled "Together At Last". Highly recommended! (see above link)


Entered at Mon May 19 14:47:58 CEST 2003 from hoiberg.hiof.no (158.36.51.55)

Posted by:

jh

Subject: test

1...2...3


Entered at Mon May 19 12:03:41 CEST 2003 from cpe-65-25-199-100.mn.rr.com (65.25.199.100)

Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Goodnight, goodmorning, ga-day... don't no whether I'm coming or going... well, I'm not going... but I hope some kind Canadians tape the Garth PBS thing on Thur (right?)... I'd love to get a copy and would gladly dub the recent Muddy PBS in exchange...

Good luck this week Maud & Garth... and I hope all those lucky enough to see the shows really enjoy themselves... and post something for us...

Serge, you made me get off my butt and finally order a Django CD... I gotta have some of dat geepsey music...

Reading all the recent Danko stories feels like opening up the windows and letting the cool breezes come in to a hot house... can you imagine a hot bath next to an open window letting in cold air... and all the while Live on Breezehill playing in the background... yessiree, that's relaxin'... Weider's playing is impecable too... I had to design a beer bottle for my ad class, and I put a '52 tele on it, bouha!!! btw, I picked up a bargin CD... blues tribute to the Dead... pretty cool stuff including 2 songs where Amy Helm sings in her strong woman voice... nicely done... anyway, back to Rick, I was recollecting somebody's post about him playing at their wedding... what a nice story, I was also at a wedding this past Sat... oh well, I'm just ramblin' on here... funny thing happened this evening... I was fighting my PC... trying to get a typeface manager program to work... when all of a sudden a message pops up saying there is a problem with the haunted house typeface... house of horror and house of death typefaces... which jams me up... so I let out a disgruntal growl... and right when I'm done... bam!!! my son's kids guitar just explodes by itself... the glue comes undone... and strings fly off... kinda freaked freaked the hell out of me... especially since I was talking about religious stuff at the wedding after about 5 drinks or so... with a buddy... damn, for a minute my imagination got the best of me... I think I was reading something about the Exorcist movie earlier too... anyway, now I hear birds outside so I gotta go... bye...


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Posted by:

jerry

Subject: Roz

Email me, I lost your address...


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Posted by:

woody s.

Web: My link

Subject: wildwood flower

paul g. i believe the words (maybe chords) to wildwood flower are available at the above .click on tabs and it's under carter family i'm reading a great book about the family "will you miss me when i'm gone"


Entered at Mon May 19 02:30:04 CEST 2003 from mcha-ai067.taconic.net (205.231.28.67)

Posted by:

Lil

"Her great passion and mission was lifting up my dad".

Beautiful words by Roseanne Cash at the funeral of her step-mother, June Carter Cash.
Very Touching.


Entered at Sun May 18 23:34:28 CEST 2003 from dl-mo1-66.seark.net (66.138.170.66)

Posted by:

Mickie Warwick

Location: Monticello Arkansas
Web: My link

Subject: Choo Choo Ch'Boogie

Levon, Sweet music man, what were you thinking? I know we are Arkansas hicks, but we KNOW and LIVE the blues. I was incredibly honored to talk to you in Brinkley (I am a surveyor - the Initial Point for the Louisiana Purchase thing - and a music lover). I did not grow up here, but I have lived here long enough to know the blues. Memphis and the King Biscuit Blues Festival at West Helena - awesome Delta Blues. I was ready to hear whatever you wanted to play - rock or blues - you are always good. But, hmmmm the Barnburners without your daughter were sort of two dimensional. I am sure they do fine in Woodstock, but in the Arkansas delta, they sounded like a photograph of the real thing. Right now, I am listening to you singing on "The Last Waltz" -- "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down". That is NOT two dimensional - it has depth. Well, what do I know - I am just a female surveyor in Arkansas. I still am deeply honored to have talked to you at the new museum in Brinkley and it was a highlight of my life. I know it is easy to dismiss the delta of Arkansas - there is not a lot here, but the blues run deep here. How can you feel the blues without having ever felt sweat dripping into chigger bites working in the summer here? The feel has something to do with the heat and humidity that makes hyper activities impossible. Well, what do I know... Anyway, it was a great honor to talk to you. Mickie


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Posted by:

JQ

Location: So Cal

Subject: Levon session & El Rayo X

There was a bit in the LA Times today about Levon & Charlie Sexton playing on Rufus Wainwright's new record. Also a note that David Lindley has reformed El Rayo X with most of the original crew.


Entered at Sun May 18 22:21:39 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-129.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.129)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: R & L Thompson

Thanks, Amanda- I won't attempt the several hours download!

Check Mojo for an excellent article on Richard & Linda Thompson. The same issue has Barney Hoskyns on Led Zeppelin - not my favourite band by any means, but an interesting interview.


Entered at Sun May 18 14:56:23 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Stay a Little Longer/Peter

It's not "Stay a Little Longer" by Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs, although that would have been a great song for Rick. The song they are performing is "Stay All Night", written by Bob Wills.


Entered at Sun May 18 12:29:41 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-220.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.220)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Stay a little longer?

Amanda- that video clip is 31 MB which with my dial-up connection looks like literally hours of download. Before I start and thus tie up my computer for ages, is it the Maurice Williams & The Zodiacs "Stay" as covered by the Four Seasons, Jackson Browne, The Hollies? I'm particularly interested because we're preparing a cover version of the song for an ESL audio, and only last week I was putting the Maurice Williams, Four Seasons & Jackson Browne on a reference CD for the producer. (I want the Four Seasons handclaps, the Jackson Browne female soul voice bit, but in other ways the original is best. The Hollies version is total crap, though it was the first I heard and I loved it - until I heard the others). The thought of a Rick Danko version is fascinating!


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Posted by:

Hank W.

Location: Nashville

Subject: Grand Ol' Opry w/ Little Jimmy Dickens and the Carter Family

Has anyone seen those old '50's Grand Ol Opry reruns with The Carter Family and Little Jimmy Dickens? The ones where the color is hallucinagenic bright? Classic June.


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Posted by:

Dawg

Location: GA

Subject: June, Johnny, Neil & Bob, Matt and Me

Anyone see Johnny & June opening for Neil in the early 80's? Wild night in GA at the Omni, then on to the Moonshadow. Johnny opened and June joined him. Great show. Just a classic. Then Neil came on and rocked very hard but we HAD to cruise as he was peaking to make it over to the Moonshadow Saloon in time to see Bobby and the Midnights. Same night, damn it! And Neil was really on that night. Rockin! Turns out we should have stayed since the Bobby show wasn't even close. Hard to choose when the Bobby tics were freebies won on the radio. And a hard show to leave, but what can you do? A man's got to do what a man's got to do. Or Make your choice and live with it. Yea, I know, it's only a concert. So after the show my friend wanted to give Bob a picture he had taken years back. He waited at the back stage door with all the rest of the heads. That wasn't my thing so I stood off to the side in the dark waiting for him to return. All of the sudden this side door opens that I'm standing next to and out pops Bob and Matt Kelly in Wool Hat disguises trying to bypass the mob. The limos were parked right there. It surprised the hell out of me and scared the hell out of them when they noticed I was standing there in the dark. All I could think of to say was, "Hi Bob". But it came out in this really creepy voice. "Hi Bob" like silence of the lambs. They looked at me wide eyed like I was going to pull a Mark David Chapman on them and didn't say a word. I don't blame them since I even kind of scared myself. They just scurried on into the limo and drove off making a clean getaway leaving that crowd waiting in the rear. I think it freaked me out as much as it did them. I wonder if they remember that. "The night I freaked out two of my rock idols". And wanting so bad to be "cool". Gotta love it! Good Band story, eh? Oh yea, June and Johnny. That's right. Anyway, they were real good.


Entered at Sun May 18 03:53:08 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda...one more time

Web: My link

Subject: Wildwood Flower...another link & "Stay a Little Longer"

I have been checking out all the video clips and Rick Danko, Gary Busey and Paul Butterfield, Saturday Night Live, 03.10.1979 is so cool. Rick was really movin'...what a great clip...thanks, Jan.


Entered at Sun May 18 03:39:40 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Web: My link

Subject: Paul G. & Wildwood Flower

It is pretty strange that you mentioned the song "Wildwood Flower". I have been going through the lyrics of all The Carter Family songs since Mrs. Cash's death. I almost posted the lyrics of "Wildwood Flower" yesterday in honor of her life. My Mother has loved The Carter Family since she was a child. I believe you will find the link above helpful.

God bless June Carter Cash and her beautiful, true pioneer soul.


Entered at Sun May 18 03:17:24 CEST 2003 from ppp415.ac1.56k.execulink.com (209.239.6.99)

Posted by:

paulg

Web: My link

Subject: Wildwood Flower

A follow up to Lil asking about a song. I used to be able to play 'Wildwood Flower' but after 30 years it escapes me. Anyone know of a website or another way I can get tab or sheet music. I tried to buy it locally but no luck.

btw It was a real honour looking back for Julia and I to have caught Johnny & June at the Canadian National Exhibition in Toronto, years back. shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

Peter J. Lee

Location: originally Mass.but now living in Michigan

I've found the Band's story, history and music to be a real treasure for many years. I'm in the midst of a second reading of Levon's book and find it fascinating. It's interesting that, after the first reading, it seemed the the major scism in the Band was between Robbie and Levon although shortly after that first reading, I heard both of them do the same song 'The Weight'; Robbie at the Concert for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame; Levon at the VH-1 Honors show.(Of more interest is (1)that Sheryl Crow was on stage for both events and (2) Jacob Dylan, at the Vh-1 thing, took a verse. I'm sure Levon knew him when Jacob was in diapers.) I recently stumbled across the Best of the Band Vol 2 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Finally, somewhere in my vinyl collections is the RCO Allstars record. Another treat. Hope it sees life on CD. pjlrockatcomcastdotnet


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Posted by:

Lil

Loz: That's it!! Thank you thank you thank you!! The wealth of knowledge in here really leaves me speechless sometimes (and trust me.. that ain't easy :-)


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Posted by:

loz

Location: oxford
Web: My link

Subject: song

lil: alan jackson - i'd love you all over again

for lyrics


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Posted by:

Lil

Subject: PS...

I wanted to mention that when I told my friend I was going to ask about the song in here, she asked why on a board dedicated to The Band? I said.."These folks know _everything_!" (Dont make a liar out of me! :-)


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Posted by:

Lil

Trying to find a song for a friend. She's going to be celebrating her 10th wedding anniversary.. and she needs the artist name and lyrics to a song called "Has it been 10 years since we said I do?". Can anyone help?? We've both been searching with no luck. Please..if you have the artist name or (preferably) the lyrics.. mail me. d_lil at hotmail dot com. Thank you!


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Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Happy 79 th bithday, Ira Tucker!

Keep on singing!


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Posted by:

Carter

Location: Minneapolis

Subject: Rick's grave

Several months back and then again several weeks back, I stopped at Rick's grave in Woodstock. Probably all the other graves near his have headstones. His has a metal marker and next to it are what seems to be a party toy, cross made of twigs, a Canadian flag and on the grave, some roses. There's plenty of footprints on the dirt over his grave, too. Right away, one wonders why he doesn't have a large headstone, "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame," blah, blah, blah. Then, when you get your head right, his grave looks perfectly natural.


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Posted by:

Spiritedwillow

Location: NC now in Texas

Subject: Robbie Robertson and Band

I would just like to wish you many blessings for your wonderful music. I especially love the song Unbound. Wado Spiritedwillow spiritedwillow@hotmail.com


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Posted by:

moi

Location: d.c.

Subject: safety

robbie stay away from them. news today is temple of set ebing busted for child sacrifices which clapton and bronnitt are atatched to .. tell everyone. Love, Lauren


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond (again, thank-god)

Subject: Thanks to Bill/Report from Vegas for Viney

Bill, thanks a bunch! Your link was greatly appreciated! Peter, I am home from Vegas much to my delight. Not my type of town or people (at least the tourists, I mean). Dining wise, I recommend Buca Di Beppa, an excellent italian chain that serves family-style entrees at a very reasonable cost, PF Changs, an excellent Chinese chain, or Cozymels for Mexican. I won a jackpot but lost it all back. Fortunately, it was on a nickel machine so I was only up $3.00 and down $1.15 upon departure!


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Posted by:

Lil

JohnD: Thanks! (This may be the shortest conversation we ever had! :-)


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Posted by:

Mike D.

Subject: Django/Grapelli

I haven't heard any Django in a long time. The mention of Mr. Grapelli reminded me of something. Dickey Betts is also a fan of Django in a major way. In early 1974 his intention was to travel to Paris to record an album with Grapelli. That was the plan, until he met Vassar Clements at a bluegrass music festival in Kissimee, Florida. Thus, the "Highway Call" album. I can only imagine what the album would have been like with Grapelli. leaning more towards jazz and not country most likely.


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Posted by:

Chris Wilkie

Location: UK

Subject: Gene/NE

Hey Gene- things are great in the North East, thanks for asking. The whole quayside of the Tyne is really happening at the moment with new galleries and music venues in development, so hopefully the old place will start swinging a little more like the good old days again. :-)


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Posted by:

Serge

Subject: To Viney

Viney, you're preaching to the choir. I grew up in a suburb of Paris. I go back almost every year, and I have relatives who live a couple of km.'s from Eurodisney. I know the place well, and stay away from it. Going to Europe to see american acts seems a little silly. I get more goosebumps from a good manouche swing guitar group. Do yourself a favour, and check out the Django Festival someday. Eric Clapton and other so called great pickers "unplugged"...my ass.(As a for instance). I've seen teenage gypsy guitarists in action who would scare them all into early retirement.


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Posted by:

Bill J.

Subject: Rick's Memorial

Can anyone please lay down Robbie's eulogy for Rick? It was very nice as I remember.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: June's Gone/Django Mourning

David Powell comes up with some of the best posts. The musical range of reference is one of the things that keeps me coming back to this place--people who know how great the music of Django Reinhardt and the Carter Family were, but also that guys like Mark O'Connor and David Grisman carry on their traditions today.

I just pulled out a bargain multi-disc Django Reinhardt set that I hadn't listened to in ages and it sounds damn good here after midnight. I first heard Reinhardt paired with the great Stephane Grapelli and was hooked. The only thing I'd heard vaguely close to that back then was an album Jean-Luc Ponty playing the music of Frank Zappa. Now I know why David Crosby named his young son Django...


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Posted by:

Woodstock Records

Location: Woodstock,NY
Web: My link

Subject: Kingston Gathering/Prof. Louie & Crowmatix free gig

Hi all - This one's for all you Crowmatix fans and a good cause. -

PRESS RELEASE - The Armed Forces Appreciation Committee of Ulster County with the Cooperation of the City of Kingston and the County of Ulster is proud to announce the 1st Annual Armed Forces Appreciation Day Gathering on Saturday, May 17th 10AM to 2PM at the TR Gallo Memorial Park on the Strand in Kingston,NY.

Professor "Louie" and the Crowmatix - the Woodstock based roots rock group who's members are renowned for their work with Rock N Roll Hall of Famer's "The Band", Bob Dylan and Hot Tuna will perform 11:15 am. - 1:30pm.

Come and help show support and appreciation for our country's troops, past and present.

Thanks! Tom/Woodstock Records


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Posted by:

Paul Presler

Location: Vancouver,Washington

Subject: Just Fishing And Playing Music

I would like to see you play in my town someday,I'll take you fishing.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Lil

Lionel wrote the song Lil.


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Posted by:

Lil

Tony: The composer of 'Goin back to Alabama' has been hard to track down, although I've always had a sneaking suspicion that it was perhaps written by Lionel Richie. To me, it _sounds_ like something Lionel Richie would've written... and Rick really liked Richie tunes. (He also did a wonderful version of Richie's "My Love"). I know "Goin back to Alabama" was recorded by Kenny Rogers (I believe the album title is "Share your love")..but I don't have the album. If anyone out there does... perhaps they can enlighten us as to who wrote the song in question.

Also, Rick never "officially" recorded the tune, but he sings it with such emotion and such passion, that he should have. I have it if you'd like a copy, or perhaps Jan (who I know also has it).. could put it on the site? It's beautiful tune...and one that I think everyone should hear Rick do at least once.

Have a good night everyone.


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Posted by:

tony

Location: chicago

Subject: Lil's song/ remembering Rick

Lil, do you have any idea who wrote that song originally, or who has released it on album (did Rick??). Those lyrics are the most beautiful I've read in so long, I'm hanging those words up on the wall somewhere. I bet hearing Rick sing it was outta sight.

On that note, I know it's been said before, but I really want to thank everyone for their stories lately about meeting/seeing Rick perform in his later solo shows. I'm a younger fan and only found out about The Band right before Rick died, never got to see him play, spent many a night though listening to that mountain wail becoming a messy puddle of emotion. Anyway, lately I've been talking to some friends about how we don't like people who get starstruck. When you meet your legends, what can you actually say to them that hasn't already been asked? The point is though, when you love the music as much as many love the Band, I think people want to reassure themselves that the musicmakers are just as great as the music. Case in point: All of the Rick Danko stories. I'll never get to meet Rick or hear him play live but through your experiences my heart warms at what a wonderful person he seems to have been. Just a litle sad at being born in the wrong generation (these damn kids and their Limp Biscuits...)

Have a great weekend all (and to all you Viney-bashers: Don't make me come and find you.)


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Peter and Serge making nice. There is hope.

It's a beautiful thing.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: From the Carter Family to Django & beyond

As we observe these milestones, we are heartened by the fact that the rich musical legacies of The Carter Family & Django Reinhardt will live on. In the hands of some, like Mark O'Connor & David Grisman, they often intersect in full swing.

The Carter Family legacy also lives on in the next generation through Tiffany-Anastasia Lowe, June's grand-daughter. Her mother is Carlene Carter; her father is Nick Lowe. She is a singer-songwriter, who has also mastered the guitar picking style made famous by her great-grandmother Maybelle Carter. On the last album June Carter Cash released, she included a tongue-in-cheek cautionary song to her grand-daughter.

"Tiffany run, find an earthquake girl
Go jump in a crack
Just don't let Quentin Tarantino find out where you're at
'Cause Quentin Tarantino makes the strangest movies I've ever seen"
--(Tiffany Anastasia Lowe by June Carter Cash)


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Paris

Serge- as you’re winging your way into Paris I’ll be flying to the USA. Arm wrestling’s not really my chosen sport (my typing hand is too precious), but if our paths do ever cross, my long-standing offer to buy you a drink (Glenfiddich?) still stands, and we can do some verbal wrestling. A genuine note- travellers to Paris often avoid Disneyland, but the music bar there frequently has good bands. I saw Taj Mahal there. Earlier this year Burrito DeLuxe with Garth Hudson played there, and I was tempted to brave the tunnel. It rejoices under some particularly silly name (Billy Bob’s?) but they do have good music. Worth checking out the daily papers as it’s a fast and short train ride, and it’s outside the park proper, just 100 metres from the station.


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Posted by:

Rick Q

Subject: Keep on Rockin!

Had to finally write because of all the Danko nostalgia I've been readin in the Guestbook..here's the first of my many Danko experiences..it was either very late 1995 or early 1996 at NYC's Bottom Line, Rick's performin w/ Ronnie Hawkins & Levon, played a song he wrote in memory of Richard (don't recall the name of song, let me know if someone does)(who's going to write Rick's song? I digress)..after the second show, late, we all bellyup to the tiny bar they have there, Rick's very friendly, way too seriously I ask him why Smith's version of The Weight is on the Easy Rider album, he says that's business and he doesn't discuss business, he's still friendly so I pull out a pic from Levon's book and ask him to autograph, like always & forever, he signs off "Keep on Rockin!" God he was havin fun. So was God that night.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

In remembering June we should not forget her as a legacy of the amazing Carter Family; who's recordings may turn a hundred in our lifetime, yet still crackle with grit, soul and poetry.


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Posted by:

Joy Munsey

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds

Dave Z and anyone else who is interested: You can pre-order the Hummingbirds cd now at the Treasure Records website. The link is above.


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Posted by:

Charley P.

Location: CA

Subject: Thanks Lil

Thanks Lil! Boy, it all came back very clearly. Had me goin' again just reading the lyrics. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Serge

Web: My link

Subject: DJANGO

Django Reinhardt died 50 years ago today, May 16, 1953. Gypsy swing guitar players from all over Europe will gather at the Annual Django Memorial Festival near Paris the last week end of June. Big names of that genre will be there this year. The Rosenberg Trio, the Ferre Brothers, Tchavalo Schmitt, Martin Taylor and many more will perform. The impromptu jam sessions are most fun, where you can hear gypsies as young as 12 yrs. try to cut each other. Come and see what real guitar playing is like. Check the link. Go to NEW, for Samois.


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Posted by:

Bones

Very sad about June Carter Cash. She was a lovely lady, and one of the most unsung heroes of country music. She always said that Johnny was the most unselfish person she knew, but I think June was the MOST unselfish. Her career (legendary in itself) took a backseat to taking care of Johnny and helping him battle his demons. I think their love story is one for the ages.


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Posted by:

Gene

Chris Wilke - I have a really good friend from New Castle here in Dutchess County, NY. Her brother still lives there. How's things in the NE?

Keith G. - I'm with you for 2 out of 3 (I pick Little Feat instead of Cream, though)


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: June Carter

I remember not too long ago seeing June Carter for the first time ever in an acting job. She was playing Robert Duvall’s mother in “The Apostle”. I was intrigued, thinking that she looked so much older than the picture in my mind’s eye of June on the “Johnny Cash Show” from when I was a kid. Maybe it’s more true of movie stars than musicians, but it’s funny how you can remember folks from when they were famous and forget that they continued on. As if everybody is frozen at the time of their greatest fame.

God bess June Carter.


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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: June Carter Cash

Rest in peace, one of the last true American legends. She embodied and expressed authentic country, and more. Let's say America at its best. I think it is true that she is responsible for Johnny's survival in many ways. Recall how he looked alongside Dylan in "Eat the Document"? And yes, it sounds a bit cold, but I'm surprised he's outlived her. But if anyone's indestructible, it might be Johnny. I went to a concert of his and June's in 1982. One of the all-time greats. Presence, charisma, and artistry to burn. And just the right measure of pure danger, even after he was born again. Endearing moment: Johnny and June's reworking of Ray Charles' "What I'd Say." She couldn't bring herself to sing "See the girl with the diamond ring/She's knows how to shake that thing," and changed it to "I know where she got that thing."


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Posted by:

Keith G.

Location: NJ

Subject: The BAND

Gene, the other bands are the Beatles and Cream! Sounds like a meal!


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Posted by:

Serge

Subject: to Cousin Paul

Cousin Paul. I never said you had no balls. I was quoting Viney's claim that anonymous posters "have no balls". Guess you have to learn to read these entries carefully, and not fly into a kneejerk response, like that dingbat Mingus and so many other dimwits here. I am still a little puzzled at your critique of Viney on one hand, then kissing his ass a couple days later saying " I was just kidding". Can't sit on the fence here. Don't get intimidated. Viney never does. He'll always tap dance with a rebuttal or a justification for his 50%...He'll find the weapons of mass destruction, even if he has to plant them first. Oops! sorry I got my brits mixed up here.

VINEY, I'll be in Paris at the end of June for a couple of weeks. Hop through the tunnel and meet me. We'll arm wrestle.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines among the wildwood flowers

Subject: JUNE CARTER CASH

Like so many, I was deeply saddened to learn of the passing of June Carter Cash yesterday. It is been said, that while studying at the Actor's Studio with Elia Kazan, fellow student James Dean was quite smitten with young Ms. Carter. While he would go on to make his mark as the Rebel Without A Cause & die young, she would choose to give another young rebel, Johnny Cash, a cause to fight his demons and live, love & share a wonderful productive life together with her. Now his darling companion is gone and my thoughts & prayers are with Mr. Cash.

"The taste of love is sweet.
When hearts like ours meet.
I fell for you like a child.
Oh, but the fire went wild."


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Richard: Yup. I think I know who Paul is. I definitely knew Bob Bryden, who I believe started Star. Speaking of the record shows, it always amazes me how little interest there is in Band material among the general record-buying public.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny
Web: My link

Subject: John Hiatt

Click "my link" for a fine and funny feature about John Hiatt (including some great interview lines from the man himself).


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: What Bill?

Hey Bill from Toronto... are you Bill Munson? I'm just curious if I've met you before at record shows. I used to share a table with Paul from Star Records once in a while.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: Martin Barre

JTullFan: you might be interested in this article, which the author sent to me because of our mutual interest in former Barre colleague Malcolm Tomlinson, who has lived here for the last 30+ years. The nearest thing to a Band link in all of this, aside from Varsity Stadium, is that the group that Tomlinson led at the time of his second solo LP included ex-Hawk Scott Cushnie on keyboards.


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Posted by:

Chris Wilkie

Location: UK

Hey Gene: thanks- I'll probably be back in Maine at the end of next month. I love it there!

Everyone else: Really enjoying the Danko anecdotes and reminiscences- thanks for sharing them! Sorry to hear about JCC.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: The Small Court, Yes, but it's MY Court

Subject: Wisdom

Thanks to all the wonderful people, the victory of ethics, of wisdom.....

Yazooman: very glad to read you, that forced me to post agin


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Link to June Carter Cash in the Tennessean


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: June Carter Cash Dead at 73

I awoke this morning with the news that June Carter Cash died yesterday with Johnny and her family around her. I feel such a deep sadness for Mr. Cash this morning. He proposed to her on stage back in 1968 in London, Ontario. Johnny said that she could see through all the pills and the booze and the deceit and anger he had inside himself. He said, "She could see deep into the kernel inside of me." Watching that last video of June looking at Johnny from the stairs is now quite eerie. Who would have thought that she would have passed before him? God Bless June Carter Cash, Johnny Cash and the entire family. We have indeed lost a member of the Royal Family of Country Music. When I think of American Music I think of the Carter Family and Johnny Cash.


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Posted by:

Yazooman

Subject: agree with d'lil

Can't help agreeing with Diamond Lady. :) It would be nice to have the email link back again in some other form so that any mailbots (or whatever they are called) can't decipher them.

YAZOO

yazooman(attherateof)rediffmail.com


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Posted by:

Yazooman

Location: Kolkata aka Calcutta

Subject: more Rick stories please

Really nice stories of Rick's solo performances and his guitar playing. Rick's solo concerts are in fact some of my favorite listenings next to those of The Band itself. There are times when he gets into the music so effortlessly and then sometimes he has just that little tentativeness to his playing that is charming on its own.

One thing that I find (those who have been to the concerts would of course know it best) is how Rick tends to get the crowd joining alongside as he performs. He talks to them...engages with them.....almost as if he was in the middle ofa family gathering. The lack of displayed star appeal and the downright homeliness of his performnces is what I am sure endeared Rick to all (beyond what happens with other performers). Even I get a huge kick out of listening to just the tapes, hanging on to even every non-musical word he utters.

Rick...I love you..

Yazooman

PS. I just don't get it why people have to get worked up about Mr. Viney's writings. Its perfectly alright not to agree with him, but then do you agree with everything else thats happening around you? I am sure there are more worthwhile causes that one can lend their pens and lungs to. Keep 'em coming, Mr.Viney, I really like your articles.


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Posted by:

Lil Again

Check out the lyrics to "The Swish" (today's "what's new") by a Brooklyn based band called "The Hold Steady". Heheh.. as my 13 year old daughter would say... "Waaaay cooool" :-)

Where do you _find_ this stuff Jan??!

Bones: Could you please e-mail me when you have a moment? Thanks. d_lil at hotmail dot com

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Lil

Charley Phogg: There was some debate in here awhile back as to what the title of the tune actually is, but I believe it's called "Goin back to Alabama"...

I'm goin back to Alabama
Now that I learned a thing or two
Life for me ain't been that easy
But I got alot of livin left to do

A man who walks by the side of the road
Can turn himself around
He can pick himself up, dust himself off
And start all over again
My friend..

Sometimes I find it hard to get up in the morning
My friends and my family are down on me
No they never seem to see where I am going
No they never seem to see the man I see

And some folks call me a dreamer
While others may laugh and call me a fool
When all that I wanted to be was a winner
Cause I know that a winner can never lose

A man who walks by the side of the road
Can turn himself around
He can pick himself up, and dust himself off
And start all over again
My friend...


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Posted by:

Stephen L. Garen

Location: Wilmington, Clinton County Ohio

Subject: Cotton and June

Double whammy recently. William "Cotton" Davidson died last week. The name may be unfamiliar to all here, but he was a great guitarist who spent time in Nashville. He knew Willie Nelson back when he first got the now famous nylon stringed guitar before it ever had a scratch or hole in the thing. He also knew Johnny Paycheck and although he did not show Johnny how to play the guitar, he showed him a few tricks. I am sure he knew a slew of others who are now famous and who never went that far. I feel blessed to have known the man, heard his stories, and viewed pics of him with various country legends. Then today I learn of June Carter Cash's death. I know everyone here and everywhere has heard of her. A sad time here locally and abroad.


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Posted by:

Cousin Paul

Location: Niagara Falls Canada

Subject: serge

Serge,I post under what my musical freinds call me. If you are looking for my balls they are due north of the mushrooms on the Next of Kin photo. I love this site,read it every morning and would love to post more, but It's all small time talk, You know how people are,You can't believe anything you hear,and by his own admission, only half of what you see. Just kidding Peter,Blood is thicker than ink. Keep it interesting, Paul


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Posted by:

Charley

Location: Cal

Subject: Shakey

Hey David, I can vouch for you on the Neil no show. Was that in '76? I still have my (2) $7.50 tickets somewhere. 15 bucks was a lot at the time, so that one hurt. I don't know why I never cashed them back in. Seems like he canceled a few hours before the show. I heard back then it was a cold or sore throat or something. He came back 6 months later to the Fox and ripped the place apart though. I still remember those feet a bouncin' on those piano pedals. "Goin' to the Country" by way o' Kings Mtn.


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Posted by:

Charley Phogg

Location: Caliwali

Subject: That man made me cry like a baby

I saw Rick alone in Little 5 Points, Hotlanta, GA in 92 or 93 and that man had me cryin' like a baby. I don't know the name of the song but one of the lyrics went something like, "I'm gonna grab myself up and pick myself up again". Anybody know the song? Very moving experience. That man had his way with his audience and received the same in return. Just pure emotion. I'll never forget that. Had me actually sobbing and I still don't get it.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Great Garth article in the What's New... I especially liked the yodeling comment... Joy M: Let us know when we can buy the CD... I definitely will... Hi Serge, I hope you take some beautiful photos in Toronto next week...


Entered at Fri May 16 05:58:22 CEST 2003 from (206.186.13.180)

Posted by:

Serge

Subject: Last post

Gee, I don't see where I attacked Viney in the last entry here. Actually I thanked him for a previous post of his. I think I was talking about Hoskyns. And that's Band related, last I looked.

Learn to read Mingus. L'arse, what is there to be jealous of ? Oh I know..I wish I had as much idle time on my hands as Viney seems to have...Day after day, after day...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

I think it's time to play "Let's Start All Over" by the Cate Brothers.....Time for a positive groooooove.....Even Levon's nephew sent an email when I first posted (Three years ago Rollie?) and told me what good taste in music I have.....;-D....Now if he's changed his mind.....I'm putting on "Damn Guilty Blues" instead...Ok...I'll send out a broken arrow .....If that doesn't work....I'll play...."Can't Change My Heart".....But I have to admit.....I'm most partial to "Let's Start All Over"......

I'm also partial to Peter Viney.....He's one of the few posters here who actually likes the same music I like (We only slightly disagree on Paul Simon).....and who shares any Van boots with me 'cause we're on the same "wavelength"......He also stood up for me publically when others did privately......Thank you Peter....


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: June Carter,

I remember reading a few years back that "The world owes June Carter a lot, mostly for keeoing Johnny Cash alive as long as she has." I wish I could remember who wrote that, but it always made me laugh. I pulled out some Carter Family Tonight-what a long line of talent.


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Posted by:

Lars Pedersen

Location: Pine Bush, NY

Subject: Serge- Is he is or is he ain't?

I guess I'm playing devil's advocate here, but why is EVERY anonymous insult aimed at Peter Viney just GOT to be Serge? Maybe it's someone else. Maybe it's Serge. Maybe it's me (naw..I like Peter).

I'm just trying to make a point: no one knows who made that "Martha" entry. And I know Serge doesn't need me to protect him, especially since I think he's just a bitter, old man who's simply jealous of Peter (no offence, Serge). And I really think Cousin Paul is a valuable addition to the GB. I was kind of surprised no one caught on that Paul was using a quote (without the quotation marks) when he repeated the old joke about "what I don't know ain't worth knowing."

I'd love to hear some of Cousin Paul's stories concerning Rick. I've learned a lot from people like Peter Viney, David Powell, and others. I'd love to hear something from the "inside," especially since Butch left us after catching hell from all sides......BTW, I saw Butch driving his Saab down Main Street in New Paltz a couple of weeks ago. He had an American flag flying out on the passenger side....looked like he was leading a charge. Is Levon still tempting you with those hamburgers? Stick to your guns and stick to those salads and keep behavin'... Sometimes I look at your face and I almost get a glimpse of what you must be going through. I hope the worm turns for you, bro. Come on back when you want your fair share of abuse, Bubba.


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Posted by:

Rollie

Web: My link

Subject: Now,now my good brethren..............

Holy Toledo kids! Shame, shame.Let us all rejoice together here on this hallowed page, rather than smear one another before the eyes of the great spirit who resides over these pages from his throne in the great Kingdom of Norway. Let us find common ground and revel in the comraderie we have come to cherish here in this wonderful place we've come to know as the "Band guestbook". After all , we are just guests here and should behave as such. Do as I say children, not as I do. Let he with the biggest rock ,cast the first stone!!! Did I say that? Great Blues fest at Telluride this year.Check it out.............


Entered at Fri May 16 03:36:59 CEST 2003 from mcha-ai165.taconic.net (205.231.28.165)

Posted by:

Lil

Entertainment - Reuters

Nashville Matriarch June Carter Cash Dead at 73

By Dean Goodman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Country music singer-songwriter June Carter Cash (news), the wife of Johnny Cash (news), died in Nashville on Thursday after complications from heart surgery, a spokeswoman said. She was 73.

"She passed away this evening at 5:04 p.m. Central Time," said Jennifer Jackson, director of public relations at Baptist Hospital, where Cash had undergone heart surgery on May 7.

Her family, including her husband, was at her side, Jackson told Reuters. The funeral will be private, she said later, adding that no additional details would be released.



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Posted by:

paul g

Web: My link

Subject: ricky & levon

David Powell, thank you. My but they were such good times with the two of them just playing for fun. I related to Levon backstage, "you & Rick should do a whole lot more shows like this." He said" Paul, tell that to Rick!" I did and it is comforting the realize they did many more shows of that kind.

shineonpaulg


Entered at Fri May 16 01:48:56 CEST 2003 from (206.186.13.180)

Posted by:

Serge

Subject: Martha

I can just hear Viney's wheels turning. But, "It ain't me babe, no, no, no it ain't me..." Sorry. Not this time.

Gee, there must be others besides Cousin Paul (another anonymous poster with no balls) who think Viney's daily bullshit is at least 50% bullshit... I personally am grateful, for instance, that Viney hopes that his buddy Hoskyns will start giving credit where credit is due, apologize for being a thief and an opportunist, and find a way to earn an honest living. Maybe as a dog catcher, or a meter maid, or a tour guide, or if he wishes to stick around show-biz, he could become a ticket taker at a movie house, and like most brits (look... I cleaned that up) who believe that they're the only ones qualified to understand what others think, or have in mind, he could explain the plot of the movie and its meaning to anyone who'll listen. Preferably a captive audience. Actually, come to think of it, being a tour guide is sort of show-biz. Ain't it?


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Maine

Hey, Chris Wilkie. Hope you have a great trip to Maine!


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: 206.191

Martha Stewart has the same ID as "Me" but I long gave up trying to follow these anonymous posts. No name = no balls however you look at it!

BUT the minor contretemps led to some great Rick memories and comments from posters here so why worry?

I finally after many months got the Jim Weider Band's Remedy yesterday. I ordered it in the UK last year and they kept promising an imminent arrival. I finally phoned again and there turned out to be one on the shelf - must have been a lost order - it was. Mine. Anyway, it was here the next morning. I 'm getting into it. Nice to hear Jim attacking The Weight without the weight of expectations and being free to do it HIS way. I always said that the guitar intro was 99.9% there on his live versions, but you could tell the difference when Robbie played the intro at Seville and it was 100% there. BUT the new version is magnificent and all the better because Jim doesn't have to follow the record anymore. Great stuff.


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Posted by:

Emily Post

Subject: Faux Martha

No, the real Martha has lunch at Walgreens.


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Posted by:

Joy

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds

I hope I'm not posting too much, but I have more info about this new album which has Levon and Garth on it. If you go to the Treasure Records Website, there is a new song there now called "Someday" written by Larry Campbell. They are definitely trying to give us a taste of this new album.

Join the mailing list for other updates.

Joy


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Posted by:

Paul Schmitz

I don'think thats the real Martha Stewart


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam (TOM)

Location: Long Island, New York

How can you attack someone anonomously, and sy they're bullshitting? YOU in fact, are displaying bullshit. And chickenshit for that matter. Why don't you have the guts to say who you are - or take it elsewhere.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Rick & Levon

I got to see Rick & Levon during their "living room" tour when they played in Decatur, Ga. As Paul G. mentioned, there was something special about hearing them "unplugged" live, years before MTV turned such events into a multi-media, commercial product.

When they played down here in Georgia, the intimacy of their performance was enhanced by the way the club was configured. Normally, larger, electric rock or country acts performed there. The room was basically a large open space with some wooden bleachers set up against the wall. That night, Rick & Levon set up right in front of the rows of bleacher seats. As they sat there & played, it really did feel like you were getting to watch them as if they were playing at home in the parlor. My seat was about six rows up, with a clear, close-up view of them. They really did seem to be having a lot of fun performing, sounding so good, yet so at ease. It was more like they were letting the audience sit in for a special night of pickin' & grinin', rather than a formalized concert "event".


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Posted by:

Eddie Hodel

Location: Queens, NY

Subject: Rick Danko cycling Fifth Ave.

I remember waiting outside the old Lone Star Cafe on 13th. St. & Fifth Ave.(NYC) before a Rick Danko show in the early 80's. I was a in high school then, having just recently been introduced to THE BAND by my brother. Listening THE BAND for the first time and getting to know the band's story was an emotional experience. My friends then were banging their heads to Twisted Sister while I was passionate about these highly evolved musicians who created beautiful songs, with meaning. Suddenly outside the Lone Star Cafe emerges Rick Danko. He greets us all then asks a guy on the street if he could get a ride on his bicycle. What a friendly guy. There goes my hero Rick riding down Fifth Ave. on a rickety old bicycle before another one of his amazing performances.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York City

Subject: Re: Martha

Ahh, nothing like an anonymous attack to kick off the day!...it's like that first cup of coffee in the morning.


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Posted by:

Bones

Great Rick Danko posts lately. I saw Rick one time in the late 80s in North Carolina. He was telling the audience a story about Robbie visiting him in Woodstock recently. Rick mentioned how much he liked Robbie's then just-released debut album, and kidded Robbie about how long it took him to make it. This story segued into Robbie asking Rick what does he do about "The Weight" in his solo shows. Rick laughed and told Robbie, "I just play it."

I think this story always said a lot about these two old friends. Robbie tends to analyze things, and he is always thinking about the big picture and concepts. Rick, on the other hand, goes with the flow. He would not think twice about playing "The Weight" in a solo show.


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Posted by:

Martha Stewart

Location: The lunch counter at the K Mart

Subject: Viney's bullshit

Cousin Paul, I agree. Viney's halfway there, admitting to his 50% bullshit


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Posted by:

Gene

Sorry to hear Joyous Lake is closed, thanks for the infos, Hi.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Thanks for sharing the Danko stories folks!!! What a true spirit... Paul G, I've been piddling away on my 6 string having fun even if my progress is extremely slow... Mary (bear), I'm glad to hear your son is doing well...


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: Stage Fright mixes

Not to be too redundant, since I've mentioned this at length before, but Matze asked about the "Stage Fright" mixes. Which mixes were used on the various versions is somewhat confusing. Rob Bowman, in his liner notes to the most recent Capitol reissue, attempted to clarify the matter, but at least in the case of the DCC version, he was wrong. According to Steve Hoffman, who mastered the DCC gold CD reissue, he used Todd Rundgren's initial mixes exclusively.

When talking about "Stage Fright", one must keep in mind that several different mixes of the session multi-tracks were done. Todd Rundgren, who helped record the sessions, did an initial mix-down. Apparently, not satisfied with the results, it was then decided that the multi-track tapes would be sent to Glyn Johns in England for him to do another mix. At the same time, Mr. Rundgren also took another stab at it.

For the original LP, the group decided which versions of each song would be used. That release & subsequent Capitol versions evidently used a combination of the different Rundgren & Johns mixes. When DCC, under license from Capitol, did their version, Steve Hoffman went through the different master tapes that Capitol provided. He decided to use Mr. Rundgren's initial mixes of each song because they were obviously the original, first generation, masters. The other mixes had additional reverb added and were later generation copies. The DCC version sounds more raw & less polished then other versions, capturing a more accurate representation of the sound of the original session tapes without the artifacts added later during the different studio mixings.


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Posted by:

Paul Schmitz

Location: Hombreville

Subject: Danko

John, After reading your post I had to share my one Danko story. We opened for Rick at a show on Long Island a couple of months before he died. We were setting up when he walked in and he was just beaming, big grin on his face and before we could introduce ourselves he asked us to join him for his encore "Shape Im in" . We were so excited to just meet him and here he is asking us to play with him. Levon later explained to us that if you were a music maker Rick was your long lost friend. It was a night that I will never forget, I also have it on tape, I will never lose that disc. After the show we hungout and talked about music. About his guitar playing, he played like a bass player and he had a nice style that fit his singing, which his singing was really great, sang like he always did with soul and conviction. This is dream come true stuff for me, I have been a Band fan my whole life. I carry this memory with me everyday and like John Cass I think about it everyday. Its a humbling experience and learning from Rick and Levon is something you wait a life time to experience. God Bless Rick and Richard


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York City

Subject: Rick!

Wow, it is great reading all these reminiscences (thanks Lil! I would have bungled the spelling) about Rick. I'm a younger-generation Band fan, but was privileged to see virtually all of Rick's NYC-area performances from 1996-99, and those memories are special to me now the way many of you treasure the 1970s Band shows you saw. I couldn't tell you a single thing about the technical qualities of his guitar playing from those shows, so taken was I with his wonderful unique voice & warm personality. Even in those later years, when his vocal range had narrowed...such emotion in his singing! He could still find those sparks of magic. You might see him strain a bit to reach a high note...was he going to get it?...ahhh, there it is!...perhaps followed by that infectious smile. He tended to play it safe with the setlists in those last years, but I was never bored...even "Crazy Mama" (of all songs!) could be a highlight when the magic was there. And Rick must have sung "It Makes No Difference" thousands of times in his life...but I always felt that that song in particular he could just hit out of the park every time, with playful, jazzy, quirky phrasing that made the studio version sound stiff by comparison (and unfortunately, I think the versions of IMND on his two live albums don't quite capture the peaks he could hit with that song, good as they are). And again with that great smile after he played the closing solos on his guitar...like he was just as surprised and delighted as everyone else to have heard those notes come out of his guitar! Some great, great shows & fond memories.

John Cass, would love to hear a copy of that tape! and perhaps I can hook you up as well. jon"at"sjiassociates.com (in case there's really a spammer left who doesn't have my address already :)


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

A most excellent article on Garth and his upcoming appearance in Toronto can be found in today's "Toronto Star". It can be found online at the link above. It's unlikely that non-Canadians, and even many Canadian under-40s, will be familiar with Don Messer and the Islanders, a fiddle-based east coast dance band whose weekly TV show ran forever on the CBC (and on radio before that). Don Tremaine, Vic Mullen, Charlie Chamberlain, Marg Osborne, Waldo Munro, Ray Neilson - those are the names that I can dredge up.


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Posted by:

John Cass

Location: VT

Subject: Rick Danko Memory

I will never forget the time in 1996 when my brother Jeff, freind Jim and myself wanted to have Rick play at Jim & Jeff's bar Jilly's in Rutland so we contacted Skyline Music (we were all in our early 20's) didn't have a clue how we would get one of our heros in our Bar and one thing lead to another and Rick, Randy, and Aaron (Prof. Louie) did a great show and the place was jammin people were loving it and at the end of the show Rick says:

"I have some Rick Danko t-shirts & The Band Carniegie Hall Shirts for sale and I will shake a few hands, kiss a few baby's, and slap a few ass'es"

you know it been like 7 years and I swear I think about that show everyday and just laugh and think how sweet it was to experence such a great time Rick gave all those there and everytime I had the priveleage seeing Rick and all the legends in The Band in my years chasing them around..

I still have the show on cassette tape and listen to it atleast 2 or 3 times a month..


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Posted by:

Roger (the retentive)

Subject: Lil - reminiscences

Yep - it's right Lil! In UK English as well as US English.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Subject: "Radio Radio" ...."Wavelength"

I just cut & pasted the following info from a cd baby e mail I received:

"If you don't want one single company to own all the "public" airwaves and media sources in the country, you're going to need to do something about it fast.

The links below can tell you more about the details than I can, and I'm not here to debate or influence, but just to remind you that IF you're against this you NEED to take a minute right now, in the next 10 days before the vote, or spend the rest of your life complaining about how it's too late.

STAND AND BE COUNTED, HERE:
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ARTICLES FOR MORE INFO:
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Figgered you folks would be interested.


Entered at Thu May 15 13:30:12 CEST 2003 from mcha-ah090.taconic.net (205.231.30.137)

Posted by:

Lil

It's been so nice reading reminiscences (is that spelled right? It doesn't look right..) of Rick's guitar playing and performances. Thanks to everyone who posted. It makes me believe that somehow, he's still with us.

RIP Dave DeBusschere. Damn. For many years, I was #22's #1 fan.

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Joy

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds

FYI: The Dixie Hummingbirds album should be available by internet order July 1st. Larry Campbell is still mixing it. He's not going to quit working on it until it's perfect!! Ira Tucker, Jr. who is the lead singer for the Hummingbirds said Larry is the best producer they have worked with, and this is their 75th Anniversary Album!! If you go to the Treasure Records Webpage, Levon said it was one of the best projects he's worked with!

You might want to sign up for the mailing list to keep informed of anything new.

Joy

Larry Campbell's page at:

http://members.cox.net/larrycampbell2000


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Joy, David Powell, Bob Wigo

Thanks for all the updates on The Dixie Hummingbirds sessions. The "Orange Blossom Special" clip is priceless.

"When I was with The Band, I had no idea I'd get this good."-Garth Hudson. That has to be the quote of the year.

David Powell & Bob Wigo: Thank you for your beautiful posts from yesterday. The words you shared gave me a good dose of Band spirit.


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Posted by:

Steven Marcus

Location: California
Web: My link

Subject: Levon & The Hawks July, 12, 1964

I just got a really raw version of this tape (I burned it on 2 CD's). The performances are hot, but it is a far cry from a 4 track master. It might be a soundboard and it might be a 5th + generation. Email me if you want a copy. (B&P only)


Entered at Thu May 15 10:07:07 CEST 2003 from gate.stimme.de (213.30.237.162)

Posted by:

Matze

Location: Germany
Web: My link

Subject: Stage Fright mixes

Hi everybody, I got a question concerning the album Stage Fright. Does anyone know wether the mixes used on the DCC Gold CD are different to those used on the remastered version with bonus tracks? Please let me know. Best wishes Matze


Entered at Thu May 15 06:18:41 CEST 2003 from (204.60.27.102)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Barnburner's

Butch: Will he Barnburners be playing in the Northeast this summer? I don't see anything in the concerts listing, but I could sure use a fix!


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Posted by:

jq

Location: So Cal

Subject: Roy Buchanon & misc

I've been listening to a live Roy Buchanon thing from 1972. Those 2, (he & RR) must have influenced each other as well as have competed for the lead job. There are technical chops which are very similiar to later RR leads. Homage or copy-cat or just youthful-opennmindesness? But it's totally there.

On royalties: I sort of understand the writing credit royalties but what's the story with TLW cash? Why weren't those shared? Or were they?


Entered at Thu May 15 04:53:28 CEST 2003 from custnets-66-43-82-136.rinc.net (66.43.82.136)

Posted by:

Charlie Young

Web: My link

Subject: Dylan and Hornsby

I just noticed that the official Bruce Hornsby site has a link posted to a nice piece about the Dylan concert in Virginia where Hornsby got to play with Bob onstage for the first time. It was cool to read that the first time Hornsby saw Bob play live was the same concert I did--with The Band in DC on the 1974 tour.


Entered at Thu May 15 04:36:03 CEST 2003 from custnets-66-43-82-136.rinc.net (66.43.82.136)

Posted by:

Charlie Young

Web: My link

Subject: David Bromberg

Someone mentioned they had never heard of David Bromberg, so I have provided the link above for a nice nutshell biograpy from (where else?) Jan's site. You can look under Garth Hudson's discography for the year 1980 if the link doesn't work. Bromberg also worked with Dylan and collaborated with--among others--George Harrison (writing a song called "The Hold Up"), Ringo Starr and the Grateful Dead. He has recently resumed a regular concert schedule and opened a violin shop in downtown Wilmington, Delaware. His records and CDs are worth tracking down.


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Posted by:

Joy

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds Sessions with Garth Hudson

http://treasurerecords.com/

Check out Treasure Records. You can now download Larry Campbell jamming with Garth Hudson during the Dixie Hummingbirds Sessions.

The first video they put up is "Orange Blossom Special."

I think their plans are to put up one a week, so check out this one NOW!

Joy

webpage for Larry Campbell:

http://members.cox.net/larrycampbell2000


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Posted by:

Hi

Subject: Joyous Lake in Woodstock

Someone asked about it. It's closed and for sale..but now there's "Legends" formerly known as Deanie's where the Crowmatix played last weekend and the "Colony Cafe" where Garth played not long ago.


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Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Don't fence Me In

Absolutely DP. Great spot. I can still recall even now how mesmerised I was back then within a few plays of Big Pink by all these spaces in the songs. In reality of course they were almost imperceptible gaps, yet they were enough to bring a whole different feel to the sound. It was as if there was this instinctive courtesy to one another's playing and singing. The 'holes' seemed to lend an emphasis to what came immediately before and after. It was something I'd never heard before. Even on We Can Talk where at times on the vocals they do seem to be fighting for space there is still that overall essence of 'after you' no 'after you'. It's magical. Funnily enough - and I'm not just saying this cos I've recently become captivated by them - but I'm noticing a similar style and feel in some Gourds material particularly the Jimmy Smith songs. He's another who seems to know instinctively the value of what to leave out as opposed to what to leave in. Pity my writing ain't the same eh guys?? :-o)


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Bass

Thank you EN!

I enjoyed the comments on Rick’s playing, especially Jeff’s insights. Most of the great bass players are proficient 6 string guitarists, and they’re frequently pianists too. So often the route to bass playing is simply being younger and seeking promotion to an older better group after starting out on guitar. Robbie took that route, but got the guitar job quickly. Rick took the same route, but the guitar job was already filled. Paul McCartney took over bass to keep the peace. Once established and solo the lure of playing guitar is strong, as playing bass and singing is said to be akin to patting your head and rubbing your stomach at the same time. Just saw a little test in a tabloid newspaper and tried it - women find this form of multitasking far easier than men. The test is patting your head and pretending to polish a table in circular sweeps while counting backwards from 20 to 1 at the same time , not playing bass, though maybe more women should emulate Suzi Quatro and try given what seems an innate ability. Mind you pianists manage. And singing drummers are multitasking all the time.

Many guitarists assume they can play bass – and some like Hendrix and Prince do so very well on records. But they can’t all do it. Multi instrumental ability is fascinating. ALL The Band had it which might be one of their secrets. e.g. it was only on Classic Albums that we discovered that Robbie alternated composing between guitar and piano.


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Posted by:

Susan

Location: Illinois

Subject: Caledonia Mission

Helen, I too noticed the piano in Caledonia Mission. I was bothered by it for a long time, because it does not sound like Richard or like Garth. I wanted to know who was playing. Later I read somewhere that John Simon played piano there

I was also struck by your mention of a Band obsession. I was in one of those for about two years - had to hear them every day, sought out everything written about them that I could lay my hands on. This website was a wonderous find. I'm no longer obsessed to that degree, but most of my music listening is Band-related in some way or other. If you want to talk about music obsessions write to me. adairh at uiuc dot edu


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Rick's Shows

I saw Rick and Eric Andersen together at the Tin Angel here in Philly not long before he left us. We had the pleasure of sitting no more than ten feet away. Although one could sense he was not himself physically his music was positively sublime. I found Rick's guitar style endearing in the sense of watching and hearing someone whose musical roots and rhythmic intuition seemed to move through him and his instrument. I distinctly recall visualizing Rick and his family gathered to sing, dance and celebrate their musical heritage. Rick had such a beautiful intuition and seemed so free in allowing it to carry him. There was no ego in Rick's guitar playing, bass playing or his vocalizing. While his guitar could sound slightly rough around the edges, at the core was the expression of a wonderfully free and musical soul. I know I left that show extremely grateful for the experience.

To add to David's comment about "not what you play but what you leave out". I've been blessed to have a drum instructor who clearly understands that notion and it has helped me enormously in my learning process. The Band was certainly the finest example I know of musicians finding their own space while allowing each other room for expression without intrusion. It's a very tricky tightrope that takes skills I can only dream about. It is clearly the defining element in every bit of The Band's music. It has life now, so long after the fact, because it never stopped breathing.


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Posted by:

Me Again

Subject: Mary (Bear)

Mary, The post about your son reminds me so much of the Rick Danko song from the CD JUBILATION called "If I Should Fail"

I'm sure a lot of folks will join me in prayer that he "WILL PREVAIL"

shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

paul godfrey

Web: My link

Subject: Bones -Ricky

Bones,

It was my good fortune to see Ricky & Levon doing an unplugged thing at the Elmo in Toronto. What an evening...yes funny and real down home music, just like having them in your own living room with a little libation on the side.

Many old friends of the BAND dropped by including Sylvia Tyson as I recall.

Would be wonderful to have a bootleg of that night.

Thank you for bringing back the memory Bones. shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

Bones

"Got enough bottom out there?" I heard Rick say these words a number of times when he was playing his acoustic guitar. He was always concerned that the acoustic did not have enough bass sound. His solo acoustic shows were always great fun. Rick was funny, and the shows were often quite intimate.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Correctness - Apologies

I shifted the term “posthumous” in my last post from the straight-precedent post of Mr Jtull Fan. I just realized that Mrs Mary (bear) used it the first in a more moving context, and by the way, my behavior was undelicate. May her accept my apologies for my error

Mrs Mary (bear): Just an intuition...” I know this is not band related.....so I'll punish myself later.”...No, you’ll not punish yourself, this is strongly The Band related, i saw in this very GB a few days before some posts expressing for The Mother’s Day most wishes to their children....when the wishes are pure

Again, my apologies


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: "What you don't play"

Part of The Band's magic as an ensemble was that each member gave the others plenty of room and didn't step on the other's toes. I'm sure this was something that Ronnie Hawkins stressed when he hired them and was further perfected over the years of playing together. Everyone became quite accomplished in editing what they did, and after all those years of experience, could anticipate, telepathically, what the others were about to do.

Rick & Robbie were interviewed in the Dec. 1976 issue of "Guitar Player" (see library section under articles). When writer Steve Caraway complimented Rick on his "highly distinctive bass style", Rick responded by saying:

"That's because I don't play bass, I just fill space. You know, Levon's bass drum and the bass work well together, because we listen to each other. It's not really what you play, but what you leave out, that counts. And when you leave space, it's easier to hear everybody. But if everyone is just up there churnin', it's going to sound like buttermilk."

That "buttermilk" analogy sounds like something that might have rolled off the Hawk's tongue. Perhaps the antithesis of this style, among The Band's contemporaries, is best illustrated by the way the Cream played. As much as I loved that group, and I had the pleasure of seeing them perform live -- when they played, there was very little editing process. Eric Clapton, Jack Bruce & Ginger Baker would start "churnin'" at great length. I can almost picture Ronnie Hawkins, hands on his hips, telling the Cream that they were just "churnin' buttermilk". In fact, they churned so much, that the cream did actually rise to the top & flowed over the edge. (:-)

Maybe this explains why The Band's "Music From Big Pink" was such a revelation to Mr. Clapton when he first heard it.


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Posted by:

pete barrett

Location: london

if only more music could have such a rock n' roll honesty tinged with such a delicate beauty. thankyou to every one of them, god bless manuel and danko


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Posted by:

Helena R.

Location: Sweden, Stockholm

Subject: Walker - "Back to drinking"

Walker! I liked very much the song - and the singing. It has that special nerve, touches something. I don´t think I´ve heard of Bromberg though. Listening to the rest of the samples makes me think of some work of Paul Weller.

By the way, did anyone but me pay attention to that lovely pianoplaying on "Caledonia Mission"? Especially the parts in the verse. Very sweet!


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Rick's Bass Playing

David P: You brought up some good points re: Rick's playing. I was just re-reading Levon's book, and there's a quote from Rick about Stan Szelest's influence from the Hawk days.

"So I tried to play what Stan was doing with his left hand. I wasn't stealing, I was learning. One night Stan gave me a look while I was copying him. He stared a me with a super-conscious look in his eye, and---magic!---all of a sudden I got better at doubling his left hand. He had transmitted some powerful force to me. Stan could just give it to you, if he wanted to."


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Posted by:

sadavid

Subject: Neil On the Beach

For me this record kinda boils down to "Ambulance Blues" and "Revolution Blues" as the strongest tracks, but not having heard it for 20-plus years, the song that comes to mind most often is "For the Turnstiles." A weird little banjo tune that sounded like it was taped around the fireplace at the Ponderosa or something. With Stills doubling the vocal, I think.

A truly great album cover marred only by the hippie title lettering. I'm really curious to know what the headline reads on that newspaper in the sand, if anyone owns the album and can make it out....


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Rick's guitar playing

Lee mentioned Rick's guitar playing. With the sad news of Noel Redding's passing, one is reminded that both Noel & Rick started out on regular guitar before switching to bass. Perhaps this helps explain their distinctive styles on the latter. When playing a song, they could visualize the complete chord structure when choosing which root bass notes to use, often using a higher harmonic then many bassists would.

Later in his career, when Rick would switch back to guitar when performing, the reverse process would take place. While playing chords, he would visualize bass notes to add on top. A perfect example of his style is captured on the "Classic Albums / The Band" video, where he can be seen performing "Unfaithful Servant" and "When You Awake" on acoustic guitar. Both performances, though not technically perfect, are quite moving in their emotional impact. Rick had a way of getting inside a song and approaching it from such an effective angle. Vocally, he would reach out & touch your heart, and, on the bass & guitar, he would add a little massage for good measure.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: New York City

Subject: to Mary (bear)

Wonderful news Mary, real glad to hear it! Best wishes...Jon


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Posted by:

Chris Wilkie

Location: Newcastle, UK

Subject: replies (that was quick!)

Gene- I saw Stephen Hague last week; he still lives in Woodstock half of the year and he assures me The Joyous Lake is still going.

Michael- you must make that pilgrimage! I get over to the States at least once a year (my girlfriend's american and we tend to visit her folks in Maine) but haven't had an excuse to do Woodstock again so far. Haven't done Route66 either- nice one. Glad you're maintaining the Danko support at the Tyneside end. I'm based down in London most of year and missing home a bit, as it happens. All the best.


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Posted by:

Michael

Location: Newcastle, UK
Web: My link

Subject: A(nother) Geordie Danko Fan

Hey Chris That's quite a trip you had there... one day I hope I'll do the same. I got to do a fair bit of Route 66 fairly recently which was like livin' in a dream (pun sort-of-intended). When I win the lottery, Woodstock and Big Pink will be next.

Here's hoping....


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Posted by:

Gene

Speaking of Tinker Street Café as 'being no more', is Joyous Lake still open? (my weblink hasn't worked for a while).


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: "Shakey" Neil

Regarding the release announcement of the missing four out of six from Neil Young's catalog -- I'll believe it when I have them in my hand! As notorious as Mr. Young is in his dislike of the sound of conventional CDs, he's equally famous for changing his mind at the last minute & cancelling the release of previously announced projects. There are so many examples, including the release of a box set career retrospective. When it comes to Shakey, don't hold your breath. Just ask the fans in Atlanta, who, years ago were looking forward to a Stills/Young concert. Headed south, on route to Georgia, Shakey abruptly turned west & cancelled his participation in the planned tour with the enigmatic message, "eat a peach". Not so long did he run.


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Posted by:

Chris Wilkie

Location: Newcastle UK

Subject: Why I Love The Band

I just want to contribute some enthusiasm about The Band.

I was playing guitar on a record with Stephen Hague (co-produced Robbie R's Storyville LP) in Woodstock in the winter of 1996 and had the terrific luck of wandering into Tinker St Cafe on a night when Rick Danko was playing a set for the locals. It was every bit as rousing, intimate and special as one would imagine and I couldn't help feeling privileged as a 23 year old guy from the north of england just basically passing through town before heading home for Christmas. I was already excited to have used one of Levon Helm's mandolins (which Hague had borrowed) for a part on the record we were doing then. That part of the world was synonymous with The Band for me,as you might imagine, so this was the stuff of pure fantasy.

In subsequent years my interest in them has become increasingly obsessive. It still staggers me how they devoted such consummate attention to detail without relinquishing any of the abundant spirit in their performances on record. As a result their contribution sounds as vital today as ever.

I was sad in more recent years to hear that Tinker St Cafe is no more and of course learning of Rick's tragic passing at the end of the 90's. I always thought The Band's music had an inherent nostalgia, without being at all reactionary and despite never returning to Woodstock since '96, I hope to go back one day and I'm sure their records will soundtrack my journey like they already do my memories. Best regards to all the Band lovers and particularly the Danko fans. xx


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Posted by:

Lil

Mary: I can't think of happier news to wake up to this morning! Your son is coming home!! It's good to know that all the thoughts and prayers did not go unheard. You must be jumping up and down with excitement there. Oh..but I do hope you took the platform shoes off first.... :-)


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Posted by:

Empty Now, a posthumous GBer

Subject: The pretender – pretentious, too too too strong, sorry i can’t resist...Band fan, skip the post, Viney fan, stay

I must finally admit it, i am a self-proclamed Vineystan, i will lift the expression « my lyrics analysis has to be 50% bullshit », and worse 50% incomplete. I talked below on the necessity to place a word in its context in order to fell it as the second level metaphor, then i posted the verse folowing that word. «tender» in «The Pretender » (50 %), unbelievable absence of serious. The context needs principally the precedent verse.

Ladys and Gentlemen, fasten your seat belt

I'm going to find myself a girl Who can show me what laughter means
And we'll fill in the missing colors In each other's paint-by-number dreams
And then we'll put out dark glasses on And we'll make love until our strength is gone
And when the morning light comes streaming in We'll get up and do it again
I'm going to be your happy idiot And struggle for the legal tender

Too strong…i dont blame anyone when he fails to analyse about a 10 % of such a song….. Dont be afraid, i wont post the complete lyrics, by piecewise slices …

Speaking about the musical features of « The Ptetender » will be too Pretentious for any experts…..just enjoy the song, that’s all what reality is


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Posted by:

JTUll Fan

Location: Las Vegas (temporarily)

Subject: To Mary (Bear)

Mary, thank-you for the update. I heard a news story about a U.S. soldier being granted posthumous citizenship. This was probably Martinez. The story speaks for itself so I will not attempt to add to it. Glad for you and your son that he is safe.


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Posted by:

MIke D.

Subject: Sam/Neil Young

Sam,

Neil does have complete artistic control of his own catalog. His reason for several albums not being reissued is because of his feelings about some of them, especially On The Beach. It's also due to the fact that Neil is NOT a fan of the way cd's sound and has vowed that until such time, those albums would remain unavailable. Now if only he'd remaster the rest of his catalog.

That article on the reissuing of those albums is slightly inaccurate. There are 2 more albums "Time Fades Away" and the soundtrack to "Journey Through The Past" that have not seen the light of day on cd officially. Those weren't studio albums however.


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Posted by:

Mary (bear)

Location: Western PA

Subject: My son

I know this is not band related.....so I'll punish myself later, anyway, I just wanted to let all of you know and my friends here of course, that my son called and let me know he is on the ship and will be leaving the Persian Gulf around May 20th. I found out he was ambushed in Un Nasiriyha on the 23rd of March. He was shot at for three days. He lost a very good friend Martinez. I've forgotten his first name, but they all referred to him as Martinez anyway. He graduated from bootcamp with my son, and roomed on the same floor at Camp Lejuene. My son said Martinez was so proud to be a Marine and they honored him by posthumously giving him his U.S. citzenship. I cried after I heard my sons voice on the voice mail last night. I was so happy to speak to him in person this morning on the phone. Thank you to all my friends and acquaintances here for your love, support, and well wishes over these last few months. Thanks again...and back to the band.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: John Eddie

If you ever get a chance to se John Eddie play live Long Distance, do it. They guy is fun rock n roll. "Fuck it I'm 40" is a fantastic tune, and "play some Skynard" about the life of a musician in a bar band rings true to anybody whose ever stepped on a stage. And the mans just clearly has fun up there. I saw him open for the Flatlanders last summer and I became a huge fan.


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Posted by:

Lee

Subject: Danko

It's been awhile... Re. Rick's guitar playing. I always thought it was an interesting mix of bass and guitar, the way he played an acoustic guitar. I believe he may have tuned it down also. Never had the pleasure of seeing him play electric guitar live. I don't believe Rob Leon came in so Danko could play anything other than bass. Rick Danko could play melodic bass lines until the cows came home. I have some nice recordings of Rick playing acoustic guitar in Japan 1978 when he performs Crying Heart Blues and others. And acoustic guitar was part of his early solo shows in 80/81. He also played electric guitar on his 78 tour.


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Posted by:

Long Distance Operator

Subject: Who The Hell Is John Eddie?

Heard a pretty good track today by a fellow from Richmond, VA named John Eddie. The song might be titled, "Don't Let Me Down Easy", because that was the refrain. Nice little tune, indeed.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: ....forgot

with all the talk about Rick's guitar playing.......one of the things that struck me about that wonderful clip that Dag gave to the site recently was Rick's playing on the acoustic. I thought it was pretty good. It was the first time I can remember taking note of his playing rather than it just being in the backround.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Thanks for the interesting Neil Young news Dan. It figures - I just borrowed a mint copy of "On The Beach" from someone, to burn to CD. I was wondering - does Neil have total control over what gets released? How is it that these few albums have remained out of the CD loop?

Peter - for what it's worth, I thought that shot at you was totally uncalled for. I alway's enjoy your posts.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Peter, a response to your comments about Rick's acoustic guitar playing. I muself always found it odd that Rick would let someone else play bass on a Band recording. I do recall that Rob Leon played bass on a few songs on Jericho (or was it one? Amazon?). I remember guessing at the time that they probably cut the song live, and Rick wanted to play rhythm guitar, so Rob played bass. I will say Rob is awesome on any instrument he touches, originally was a guitar player, taught himself bass, and is amazing.

As far as Rick's guitar playing goes, I know what you are alluding to. but I can say that having seen him uncountable times play acoustic, I would not say that his playing was always on the same level. Some nights his guitar work would sparkle, and some nights it could be ragged yet good, melodious yet off time and pulled kind of northeasterly at times, southwesternly at others. And his voice would do the same. Other nights his guitar work was particularly as you called it, very peculiar. So i can only say that to my experience, his brand of acoustic playing had a lot to do with what he was feeling, or how he felt. And what he was capable of projecting at the moment. And we can only imagine that hey, maybe he was tired of playing bass all the time. I do not find that odd. Look at how Dylan constantly reinvents his songs, as did the Dead. For creative sorts, nothing is worse than the drone of endless repetition.

The last time I saw Butterfield play was at the Lonestar with Rick. It was shortly before Butterfield's death. Can't recall if he died a day or two after the show, or a day or two before the next scheduled show at the Lonestar. But it was one of those cases. Anyway, both Butter and Rick were at the top of their game, clean, looked fresh and healthy, and both played and sang to the full beautiful extent of their capabilities. It was one of those oher earthly shows. And Rick's guitar work was absolutely superb. Never better. I have to admit, I wish he had pulled it off more often. But the fact is, he was capable of it.


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Posted by:

Dan Kunitz

Subject: On The Beach

I'm a long-time and Band fan and frequent visitor to this site but I haven't posted to the guestbook in ages. Just stumbled upon a news story that I thought would be of interest. I've been looking for the Neil Young album On The Beach for years (featuring Rick and Levon) and just discovered that it, and a few other Neil albums, are finally being released on CD.

Here is the link to the article that I saw.

NEW YORK (Billboard) - The four remaining Neil Young (news) studio albums that have never been issued on CD will finally be unveiled in that format next month.

"On the Beach," "American Stars 'N Bars," "Hawks & Doves," and "Re.ac.tor" will be released June 24 via Reprise. The albums, which have been out of print in any form for years and heavily bootlegged, have been digitally remastered but do not include any bonus tracks.

Of perhaps most interest to fans is the arrival of 1974's "On the Beach," which finds Young aided in the studio by his on-again/off-again collaborators David Crosby (news) and Graham Nash (news) as well as the Band's Levon Helm and Rick Danko. The album revels in a mellow, stoned vibe that underscores Young's attempts to cope with various personal issues, including the then-recent drug-related deaths of bandmate Danny Whitten and roadie Bruce Berry.

"American Stars 'N Bars," released in 1977 but recorded sporadically in the three years prior, is split between country-tinged numbers such as "Saddle Up the Palomino" and intense rockers such as "Like a Hurricane." Emmylou Harris (news), Linda Ronstadt (news), and the late Nicolette Larson (news) contribute backing vocals.

"Hawks & Doves" was the 1980 follow-up to "Rust Never Sleeps," but moved away from that set's brash guitar rock in favor of nine country and acoustic numbers such as "The Old Homestead" and "Comin' Apart at Every Nail." The set only reached No. 30 on The Billboard 200, Young's lowest showing since his 1969 debut "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" peaked at No. 34.

"Re.ac.tor," issued in 1981, was Young's final album before leaving Reprise to sign with Geffen. Backed by Crazy Horse, the artist powered through eight loud, fierce tracks such as "Shots" and "Motor City." The album preceded Young's most idiosyncratic period of musical experimentation, which began two years later with the vocoder-dominated "Trans."

Back in the present day, Young is in the midst of solo dates in Europe and is playing Dublin Tuesday. A North American tour with Crazy Horse and support act Lucinda Williams (news) begins June 8 in West Palm Beach, Fla.

Reuters/Billboard


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: bass v 6 string

Not knocking! To clarify, when I said Rick wasn’t a technically good 6-string guitarist on solo shows (many years ago) I was expressing surprise that someone who could make any instrument do things, and who was one of the best and most fluid and fluent bass players of all time, played 6 string in the rather jerky hesitant way he used on solo concerts. They always surprise me, and I’ve heard several musicians express equally huge surprise about his 6 string playing in contrast to the way he played bass or fiddle or whatever else he picked up. I was always perplexed about his habit of playing rhythm guitar in the 80s and 90s line-ups while others played bass not as well as he would have. It’s been kind of an unmentionable – no one’s ever picked up on it before. No question he was effectiveand unusual- solo he was often picking out a bass part too. But am I alone in thinking this? Or is it blasphemous?


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Beaucoups of Blues

As Taj Mahal once sang: "I'm gonna move to the country and paint my mailbox blue."

Peter: I recently rediscovered Ringo's Nashville journey when I found an early pressing of the LP. It was produced by Pete Drake, one of the great pedal steel guitarists. Besides playing with a who's who of country stars, he also worked with Bob Dylan & George Harrison.

Mr. Drake was from Georgia, and early in his career he was the bandleader for a live radio show broadcast in Atlanta. A teenaged guitarist, named Joe Souther, used to sit in & play with Pete Drake's band. Later known as Joe South, he would go on to fame himself as a session guitarist, songwriter, producer & singer.

That's Joe South that played the Pops Staples influenced intro on Aretha Franklin's "Chain of Fools". What really intrigued the music junkie in me came the other day while listening to an old song by the Tams, "You Lied To Your Daddy." Mr. South produced & played guitar on the song. I noticed a distinctive guitar lick that sounded very familiar, and then I remembered Dylan's "Absolutely Sweet Marie" from "Blonde On Blonde". Then I pulled out an old LP of Billy Joe Royal's containing the original version of "Hush". What all of these songs had in common was Joe South.

Further proof of my serious addiction.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: World Cafe

Damn. Missed Phil Roy (discussed here recently) on World Cafe today. Upcoming shows include The Thorns on May 16 and Daniel Lanois on May 19. See link.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Nasville's best + reply to Cousin Paul

David & Bones – it’s a serious addiction. Today was Nashville Skyline – a 200 mile drive was all Nashville Skyline & Taj Mahal. Lay Lady Lay got REPEAT four times, then when it was finally allowed to get as far as Tonight I’ll Be Staying Here With You that got three. But it always sets off a theme – like the backing on Nashville Skyline is sublime, but it makes you dig out Ringo’s Beaucoups of Blues for a further dose of Nashville’s finest.

Cousin Paul – dunno what offended you. I’m happily prepared to admit that my lyrics analysis has to be 50% bullshit because I can only guess at Robbie’s intent. When I think of comments on Rick – like he’s my favourite singer in The Band (= my favourite singer. period) or the 90s Band only really became The Band when Rick took the lead vocal – I find it hard to see where you can take exception. Oh, maybe I said somewhere he wasn’t a technically good six string guitarist on solo shows (though always effective) – but I think that’s a generally held opinion. Or as Monty Python would say, bleeding obvious


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

A couple of weeks ago I saw an early '70s cover of TNDDODD - by the Symbols on Bell. (It was a US promo, so same song on both sides of the 45.) I listened to a bit of it in the store, and it sounded like a R&B vocal group, a la Persuasions. I now wish I'd listened to the whole thing, as they may have changed bits of the lyric here and there.


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Posted by:

Joy

Location: Virginia
Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Hummingbirds Sessions

If you haven't been paying attention!! , Larry Campbell is producing an album by the Dixie Hummingbirds with Levon Helm, Garth Hudson, Tony Garnier and George Receli helping out!!

The Treasure Records webpage will soon have up some videos shot at the Dixie Hummingbirds sessions. I've seen a few of them, and they are pretty cool.

Keep checking their website at:

http://treasurerecords.com/

They recorded 18 hours of stuff!!!!

It might be a good idea to join the mailing list too while you are at the website!!!

Joy


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Ahhh, for all you heathens who chortled at my Flaming Lips fascination, a rather strong Lips/Band connections. Mercury Rev's Jonathan Donahue originally played guitar for the Lips, and MR producer/player Dave Fridmann also has produced the Lips. With Garth and Levon's participation in MR, I'd say there is a rather direct link between all three bands. Now, musically, that's another question.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Subject: Weirdest Segue Into TNTDODD

This morning I heard the strangest segue into "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" on the Public Radio International affiliate from the University of Pennsylvania, WXPN. Right before it they played the track called "Never Did No Ramblin'" from the soundtrack to the new comedy film, "A Mighty Wind." It sounds really weird in theory, but The Band never sounded better on the radio for some reason. Maybe it was just the contrast from the ridiculous to the sublime.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Location: Over the Hill

Subject: Addictions - Afflictions

If you don't have any alcohol in the house and nobody will let you buy any, you swallow rubbing alcohol. I guess that means we could get hooked on "Three Blind Mice" if there wasn't anything else..


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Posted by:

DZ Again

Nay Lil: I always appreciated Borg's backhand much more than Mac's dirty talk... hey wait a minute that didn't sound right either... ~:^)...

David P: I need a fix bad bro (after all, your in the biz, right?)... unfortunately, I'm in treatment for the live Canadian stuff... problem is, I can't get past the 1st step where I admit I have a problem... so (he whispers), can you score me a "Where Is Amy Helm?" T-shirt?... to tied me over?

On a more serious note: I highly recommend the Acid Test video... as far as I can tell there's only one song on it... Death has no mercy sung by Pig Pen... with loads of Bluesy Jerry doodling... and lot's of bad dance moves... Great background music!!!!!!


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Posted by:

Bones

I'd like to throw my name in with the afflicted (Mr. Powell and Mr. Viney). It makes me feel better knowing there are others like me who have this same problem. Whether I agree or disagree with their posts, they are almost always on musical subjects.

I'd also like to send out best wishes to June Carter and Johnny Cash. I was listening to the remastered cd of Johnny Cash at Folsom Prison recently, and their duet of "Jackson" always makes me smile. A Band connection which I had not thought about before is that "Long Black Veil" is on that album which was released the very same year (1968) as Music From Big Pink.


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Posted by:

Lil

Mr.Powell: Loved your post about being addicted to music. They say admitting it is the first step. Perhaps now we have to stop referring to our mighty webmaster as the maintainer..and start calling him the enabler...? :-)


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Is "Seven Steps To Heaven" in any way similar to "Stairway To Heaven"?


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Posted by:

paul godfrey

Web: My link

Subject: JCC

Hear Hear John D.

With getting back to the guitar I feel so much better about everything.

The Carter Family have given us so much music. If any one can help me with getting the sheet music for 'Wildwood Flower' I would appreciate it.

In many respects music has been so much a part of my life and I can't tell you how good it feels to be makin it again.

shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: M. A.

Hello, my name is David and I'm addicted to music. Every day is a struggle to follow a dozen steps, but I keep getting detoured down those Seven Steps to Heaven prescribed by Miles, often ending up near the Third Stone from the Sun with Jimi & Noel.

You see, with this serious jones, it's easy to lose perspective. The strains of music, flowing from the strings of Morpheus, are apt to lead one to some Matrix-like mirage in the "desert of the real". The pleasure of music is an affliction that I suffer from; one not as easily cured as a mere fever of the chest. By writing this, it is only my desire that you try to understand the shape I'm in. I imagine that many of you may find yourselves in the same predicament, given the lure of the lutes of such a heavenly Band.

I recognize these same symptoms in Peter Viney. This is in no way an intervention on my part, but merely an expression of support for him in his struggle to make sense of the music through his posts & articles. Although I often disagree or find myself amused (on such assessments of Pete Seeger, Richard Thompson & Hank Williams), I always enjoy reading what he writes.

Mr. Viney & me, or more properly, I, both suffer from this addiction to music, as do many others of you, here in the guestbook. So please try to understand this struggle to find reality in the fantasy of music. Thank you & have a good day (:-)


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Analysing songs to death

In the French literacy we call that "Antithèse", to use the direct terms related to one concept for expressing the senses or the features related to a complementary one and vice-versa...Jackson, do you agree?


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Kalervo -- Darden Smith

Kalervo, I'm glad to hear of another Darden Smith fan. I've heard his new one "Sunflower" is very good as well.

Enjoy the music.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Maybe all would be well if Peter could get the Barnburners on Letterman or Conan.


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Posted by:

Lil

DaveZ: You and John McEnroe?? Hmmm.. may I respectfully suggest that you cap those paints tightly and move them away from your bed while you're sleeping... :-)


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: The court of the small

Subject: The Pretender

Thanks Charlie for the correction, i think you’re right for the orthograph, i modestly doubt if the sense of the term tender (in the verse i mentionned) is the litteral one. It is really hard to me to interpret such deep lyrics. In the context, the poetic licence is the prime constraint, the song is titled « The Pretender », the rhymes are in « er », and the word money is used explicitely in the corpus of the same verse. Not sure at all of what Jackson Browne think. I guess the real nature of the poetry is to feel it, not to analyse it. I remarked a long time ago your knowledge about Jackson. The musical quality of that song is much more attractive than the words (Graham Nash & David Crosby are performing the background voices). Thanks again Charlie

The last paragraph of « the pretender »:

I'm going to be a happy idiot And struggle for the legal tender
Where the ads take aim and lay their claim To the heart and the soul of the spender
And believe in whatever may lie
In those things that money can buyThought true love could have been a contender
Are you there? Say a prayer for the Pretender
Who started out so young and strong Only to surrender

Are you there?

Say a prayer for the Pretender

Are you there?

Say a prayer

for the Pretender

Say a prayer

for the Pretender


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Lil: The Long Island newspaper stuff is good color even if the rest of us don't feel a need to respond... so feel free to keep it up... on the otherhand, I'm having nightmares about some kind of Borg monster that chases me and John McEnroe through the streets of Toronto...


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Blather

Cousin Paul: Isn't posting to a Guestbook sort of a self indulgent process by default? You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I've read many posts here by various people over the years that were deliberatly nasty, mean spririted, and hateful.

It's my opinion that Peter Viney's posts are generally informative and offered in the spirit of being helpful. Whether you agree with him or not is your business, but I don't quite understand why you are singling him out.


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Posted by:

Hank

Location: Cork
Web: My link

Subject: Are You Experienced?

It's been awhile since I posted but checked in to see if y'all got the news about Noel Redding. I see that Tracy already posted about it.....

We were doing our Regular Monday nite gig last nite....Ray Barron and I..... when we got the call about Noel.......

I knew and was friendly with Noel for nearly 20 years...... jammed and performed with him on many occasions.....of which I will relate at another time......

The one thing I will say right now is that it's the end of an era in West Cork....Noel held court down there...mainly in a pub called De Barras in Clonakilty......there are pictures of visiting rock 'n'rollers from Macca to Bowie to Neil Young all over the walls of that pub.......

Noel was a very friendly fella, always up for a lark, a jam, a puff or hang out...he would regale me with stories of The Who, Cream, The Beatles, Brian Jones and, of course, The Experience....which blew me head off when I was younger....at the same time he was completely aware of being ripped off by the music industry by signing bad deals (like some musos we hear about 'round here!) and would always advise me to be very careful and to keep control of my affairs........we were also all aware of how much personal grief he had suffered in recent years.... I spoke with a very close friend of his a short while ago who said that Noel was at peace now.......hopefully hooking up with his wife Carol, his mum, Moonie, Lennon, The Ox & Jimi... somehow.......

We finished off the gig with a guitar/mandolin version of "Foxy Lady"....and "Little Wing"......


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

MUSIC CHANGES THE WORLD....

Ray Pence: I saw Iggy I think in 1980 at the Police Picnic in Oakville, Ontario...just outside of Toronto.....Iggy stole the show with his ENERGY and PHYSICAL acrobatics....I don't think he was the chairman of the bored that day....I've always liked the Bowie/Iggy Connection as well....Also there's a Cale connection.....John produced the first Stooges record....Btw....I'm going to see Louuuu at Massey Hall on June 13 once again...I don't suppose Ornette Coleman will be touring with him?!..;-D


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Posted by:

Lil

Subject: e-mail addresses

It occurred to me yesterday while posting back and forth about Long Island newspapers that I really miss having e-mail addresses in here. I understand why they were removed (my spam quotient has gone down considerably)...but how bout an alternative? I was wondering if perhaps Jan could add a page where anyone who wants to can leave their e-mail address. Not in "clickable" form, but similar to what some have done here. d_lil at hotmail dot com. It might alleviate some of the chit-chatty things that are really of no interest to anyone but the people writing about it (such as the Long Island newspaper thing). Thanks.

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland
Web: My link

Subject: Darden, Jackson and Erik

Bob W.: I happen to own Darden Smith' s Little Victories. Very fine album, especially the song called Hole In The River, one of my all time favorites. Darden is getting more and more recognition...

I am happy to see that Jackson Browne is so well loved here.

Yesterday I heard an album called In The Heart Of a Waking Dream by Erik Hokkanen ja Lumisudet (Erik Hokkanen and the Snow wolves)...A wonderful mix of Americana and Finnish folk. Erik is one of the best fiddle and guitar players in Texas or anywhere. Strongly recommended!!! Look at the web site. It has also an access to Rootsworld, the important world music online magazine....


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Posted by:

MIke D.

Subject: Olivia

Do not feel foolish. You actually made me think about that one! The performance from December 1967 took place at The Roundhouse in London, I believe. If my memory serves me correct, the show was filmed/recorded by the BBC. Pink Floyd was also on the bill that night. The show was billed as "Christmas On Earth" I believe. I used to have a bootleg of that show. I actually might still have it. I'd have to look. I still can't get over the 1964 picture of The Hawks on Volume 5 of The Beatles Anthology. :)


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Cousin Paul

"What I don't know ain't worth knowing"..... don't take offence, but that's a pretty piss-poor attitude to have in life! Learning is what propels us through life. The little (and big) indignities and struggles of our day to day existence are offset by what we gain when we learn something new or experience something different (and not just in the field of education). If we all held that maxim "...it ain't worth knowing" we'd all still be wallowing in the primordial sludge.

Sorry, but this a sentiment that I abhor.... If I were rewriting Dante's Inferno, the most hideous, and cruelest ring in my version of Hell would be reserved for those who suffer from an indifference and apathy towards learning and casually toss out the gem "What I don't know ain't worth knowing" as if it were something to say with immense pride! Are you sure you're not one of the students I teach?!?!?


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: On the Road Again

Subject: Old Folkies Never Die...

I wasn't at "The Last Waltz" like Rollie, so tonight's 40th anniversary tribute to Philadelphia folk music DJ Gene Shay was probably the most talent I'd ever seen assembled on one stage at the same time. Eric Andersen, David Bromberg, John Prine, Tom Rush, Tom Paxton, Arlo Guthrie, Christine Lavin and Pete and Maura Kennedy were just part of the lineup for an epic evening of amazing music.

The best part was getting to meet most of these people after the gig--especially Prine and Andersen, since I'd followed the music of both for over thirty years but never met either. Eric Andersen mentioned Rick Danko during his performance and I thanked him for bringing up Rick's name. Thanks to Jan for that great new video clip of Rick now that I think of it, too...


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Posted by:

Cousin Paul

Location: Niagara Falls Canada

Subject: Peter Viney

Peter, I have read your reviews and reports, although I do not believe some of the things you write I can take it with a grain salt. Your self indulgent writing might intrigue others, but truthfully it seems nothing more than blather. I've read your posts so often, not only your reviews, that I wonder if you are nothing more than just a ROADIE. Can you get me a gig like you have? No offence, just like soccer/football. What I don't know ain't worth knowing;P.V Peace and Love, Paul


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Apologies Due

My humblest apologies to Mr. Pelham and Mr. Brennan. I was not aware of another "To Die Game" yet alone one by our own Pat Brennan. I will say Evans' book was very entertaining. I hope to have the opportunity to read Pat's. Sorry for the mix up.

Anybody here know Darden Smith's "Little Victories"?


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland TX

Thanks PV, my question was prompted by a recent screening of Mike Liegh's great, great BBC film "Grown Ups." A fellow mentions the mist in question in the "you are not seeing something that is obviously there" vain; but we later lean that this guy(who looks like Elvis Costello) is obsessed with the Scotch legend of the Loch Ness Monster(somewhat confusing the issue).


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Posted by:

Tracy

Subject: R.I.P. Noel Redding, 57

(Just when we were talking about Hendrix/Holly.)

Hendrix Bassist Noel Redding Dies

by Marcus Errico

May 12, 2003, 4:15 PM PT

Noel Redding, the man who held down the bottom line for Jimi Hendrix, has died. The bassist passed away Sunday at his home in County Cork, Ireland, according to his manager, Ian Grant. Grant made the announcement on a message board for Track Records, Redding's label. "I can't yet take it in that, once more, I am sitting at my desk bringing sad news. Noel passed away," Grant wrote.

The cause of death was not immediately known. Redding was 57.

His death reportedly comes just a week after his mother's.

Originally a guitarist, Redding converted to bass when he joined with Hendrix and drummer Mitch Mitchell to form the Jimi Hendrix Experience in 1966. Redding played bass on all three of the group's landmark albums, Are You Experienced?, Axis: Bold As Love and Electric Ladyland. The power trio split in 1969, a year before Hendrix died.

Redding was enshrined with Hendrix and Mitchell in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1992.

Known for his only-in-the-'60s look (towering 'fro that rivaled Jimi's, granny glasses, dashiki), Redding was later embittered by his Experience days. He signed away his royalty rights in 1974, allegedly to pay an outstanding legal bill, for a one-off payment of $100,000. Redding claimed he agreed to the sum after being promised there would be no more reissues of the Experience material. Of course, that was before CDs and DVDs and the endless repackaging of the band's songs by Hendrix's estate. "I should have been a plumber. That's a joke. But the thing is, plumbers get paid," he told Billboard.com last year. "But there again, I'm still playing, thank God. That's the main thing." Redding said he was even forced to sell the bass he used to record with the Experience to get by.

In February, Grant vowed to file a lawsuit on Redding's behalf demanding some $5 million from the Hendrix estate. It's not immediately clear whether that legal action will go forward.

There was no immediate comment Monday on Redding's death from Experience Hendrix, the company that controls the Hendrix empire. After his Experience experience, Redding played guitar with Fat Mattress and later with Road and the Noel Redding Band.

In 1996, he outlined his rock 'n' roll woes in his autobiography, Are You Experienced?. A compilation CD of two Noel Redding Band albums, Clonakilty Cowboys and Blowin', was reissued in 2000 on One Way Records. His most recent release, a concert set titled Live from Bunkr--Prague, was released by Grant's Track Records last year.

Redding is survived by his longtime companion, Deborah McNaughton. She released a brief statement to Billboard.com calling Redding an "extremely gentle and gracious soul. He had a kind of chivalry and nobility about him and he was kind to everyone bar none, people and animals alike."

Tracy


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Posted by:

Crazy Chester

Location: the fog

Subject: Jackson,slide,OMD's

Just wanted to say that I met Jackson Browne before a show in Oct.198? He was playing Penn State's Rec Hall for a Homecoming weekend and my friend and I were walking past the outside of the building looking for a way to sneak in for the soundcheck or to meet JB & the band. My friend saw the outline of some people through a frosted glass window where we knew it was backstage area so he rapped on the window while I kept walking and next thing I know he's hollerin my name and waving me back. I saw a long haired head half out the window and my friend is bent over talkin to this head. The closer I get I realize it's Jackson and....that's cool! We stood there and small talked awhile about how nice central Pa. is and then I asked about Lindley and Rosemary cause I'd heard they weren't on that tour and he filled us in on what they were up to. What really got his attention was when I asked him if was still playing Gurian acoustic guitars. He lit up and asked if we were into guitars and we said....ya man. That was it. He said meet me at the next entrance down at the end of this building and come on backstage. We were like two Little Leaguers gettin to meet Willie Mays back in the 60's. Jackson invited us in, gave us some passes for after the show, sat and talked guitars with us for about 20 mins.and asked if we wanted something to eat off the buffet. Our hero... treatin us most righteously. That was the best famous person encounter I've ever had. He was cool! My wife worked in the music biz for awhile and met a lot of musicians she said Jackson seemed very real and polite. She had an encounter with James Taylor in the 80's and said he was kinda rude and dismissive,Michael Hedges...very nice,Phil Keaggy... went out of his way to get her extra albums and sign them for her,Liona Boyd same thing. Some of the bands were pretty wasted and acted accordingly. But, we all have our good and bad moments and it's hard to say from just meeting someone briefly "on the road" what they're really like. Anyway,slide guitar...there are so many greats. Ry...very tasteful and full of adventure. Lindley...ditto! George....melodic,sweet.Bonnie...oh yeah. Son House,Elmore,RJ...the originals. I still think for pure emotion and soul I have to go with Duane. He was on some other level. I don't know these new guys like Haynes,Harper,Landreth,Trucks that well although I've heard some of their playing. I'm sure they're great but give me Duane and here's one for ya that's way overlooked and under rated.... Ron Wood....discuss.Early Faces and Rod Stewart....Ron Wood.He's played a lot more slide/Dobro than you may realize check his album/recording credentials and history,you'll be suprised and I think he plays with a little Brit C&W outfit called The Rolling Stones. Finally,and aren't you glad about that,The Ozark Mountain Daredevils...I'm tellin ya...The Band's second cousins twice removed. They were great!


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Furthermore …

To add – it’s a bit like a film crew. If someone gets really hurt because they’ve been called a *@!* in the midst of heavy action they’re in the wrong line of work. The difference is when someone calls you a @!*% after the situation has calmed down and means it. That is offensive.


Entered at Tue May 13 00:21:01 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-133.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.133)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Being abusive to roadies - in the heat of the concert and the panic to get everything ready, any musician might have used abusive language to roadies. It happens. The mildest-mannered people preparing to go on stage will get very edgy if things are wrong. Very few entertainers can preserve a calm face at all times, though surprisingly some do manage. But this is in its own way a front. When they get big enough they can employ someone else to do it. Read the reports of the IOW Concert with Dylan, The Band and crew getting very edgy. It goes with going on stage. There often isn't time for pleasantries when things aren't ready or equipment is wrong.

On the other hand, some are on a permanent power-trip and arseholes. I could only hazard a view on any particular performer on repeated evidence.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Mike Myers

Mike Myers is on the Tonight show tonight hosted by Katie Couric from The Today Show. Apparently, according to sources he is going to do a "Hey let's go to Toronto" push as we get completely back to normal after the SARS thing. No thanks to CNN who showed the same hospital doorway for two weeks in a row instead of the rest of the city, as we moved around normally; with no masks. It's interesting to be in the middle of a major news story and watch all the errors being reported day after day. I think we have an idea of NYC felt like after 9/11 when trying to get people to come back to the Big Apple. A marketing nightmare. Wish we had a Giuliani here. Very frustrating indeed. Thanks Mike in advance if that's what you follow through with tonight.


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Posted by:

John Pelham

Location: Anniston, AL

Subject: The final post

BOB WIGO: You are a good, stout fellow who I've always liked and no apology is needed. It's that Brennan that starts this stuff, you know....besides, at my age (I was born in 1838) I honestly don't remember what we were talking about.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: Joni and Jackson

Bones, I think you may be slightly mistaken regarding Ms. Mitchell and Jackson Browne. As I recall, Joni came to Jackson's defense when said accusations (inuendo, actually) were floating about.

See link above for discussion of the alleged incident, which includes: "When asked by Robert Hilburn in The L.A. Times about who was the inspiration for "Not To Blame" Joni said "Let's not go gossipy...I should have put a disclaimer...'Any resemblance to any people living or dead is merely coincidental.' This is a song about batterers of women. It's dumb to reduce the song to a portrait of an individual."

I was not able to confirm this quote, as the article is listed on their archives but now available, but Hilburn did interview Mitchell in the LA Times on Oct 27, 1994.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: June Carter Cash

I find it so truly sad that Johnny has been so ill and now the love of his life is in critical condition as of the the last time I listened to the news. She had heart valve surgery. She is 73 yeas old. God Bless June Carter Cash.


Entered at Mon May 12 23:23:51 CEST 2003 from h-68-164-228-177.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.164.228.177)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

I'm honored to have such illustrious company commenting on my written output. Bob, I'm afraid you owe our good friend Pelham an apology. There's actually a fuller title to my modest tome which differentiated it enough from the book you have to allow its use: "'To Die Game'--Major General J.E.B. Stuart". "To Die Game" is in quotes because it's something Stuart actually said. However, Pelham's assertion that Huff killed Jeb is in error. R.E.L. Krick published a nice article on Yellow Tavern that ruled out the possibility that Huff did the deed. Huff actually never said that he fired the fatal shot; his commanding officer made the claim after Huff died a few weeks later. And Huff's unit was not involved in the attack wherein Stuart was mortally wounded. I will bow to Pelham's knowledge concerning the killer of Huff, one Virgil Caine. BTW, Stuart died the next day, May 13, 1864, in Richmond Virginia.


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Posted by:

Ruby Red

Location: NY/LI

Subject: Long Island Press

Lil I think Sam is correct. Sam, wasent the Long Island Press taken over by The Long Islander? I think it was based in Huntington, but I could be wrong.


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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: Warren Zevon

I attended a Zevon concert in Boulder Colorado in 1990--he was blazing. Haven't followed his music much since but I worshipped him in the late 70s, early 80s.

John, I've also wondered about WZ lately. When the news came out in the early fall of last year the press was writing about him like he was already dead--or had maybe three, four weeks left. Well, here we are, almost summer, and the Excitable Boy is still kicking.

Back then he said, he wanted to live long enough to see the new James Bond movie...now it's set to come out on DVD!!


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Posted by:

Lil

Ruby Red/Bayou Sam: Thanks for the info on the 'Long Island Press'. I was indeed thinking of the daily, regular newspaper of the same name Sam. I do remember picking up both 'Good Times' and 'The Island Ear' at clubs down there (If I remember correctly, they were free). It seems like so long ago....
And geeeez Sam.. lern how two sppell, will ya?! :-)

To the Borg monster: Been trying to reach you. Hope all is well. Please contact me.


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: John Pelham

John, if that is the case it is I who owes you the apology. I only know of the one book Pat has written. I happen to own a copy of "To Die Game" (1995) by William McKee Evans and that is why I responded as such. I guess I wouldn't have thought Pat would have published a book by the same name. If so, I stand corrected. The only title I am aware of is "SECESSIONVILLE: ASSAULT ON CHARLESTON".

Pat, can you shed some light on the matter?


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Awww don't feel foolish Olivia. The fun part is learning about these things in here, and sometimes getting the facts on something you had wrong. I'm not one of the one's that looks down my nose at someone who makes a mistake - or, God forbid - mispells sumthing.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Lil = I know the Long Island Press that you're thinking of, and this new one is not it. You're thinking of a regular newspaper that seemed to rival Newsday in it's prime. This new "Press" is a local music paper.....BTW, "Good Times", which has been around forever is alive and well still.


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Posted by:

olivia

Subject: hendrix/mike d/sam/olivia

well, i feel foolish. i aplogize sam for miss leading you. mike is correct. that was not the same performance. thank you mike for the correction. you should still check out the box set though. it's really awesome.


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Posted by:

Walker

Location: Rockaway Beach NY
Web: My link

Subject: Music

I was asked if the first track on my new C.D. was written by Bromberg, I said no, but thanks for putting me in his company. Go to www.brotherhoodofthegrape.com and click a link and check out "Back to Drinking" I would love some feedback by real fans of his music. Blessings to all....Walker


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Posted by:

Helena R.

Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Subject: music again

I just thought I had gotten over my worst crush with/on (?) the Band´s music and saga. But once I go through these pages and some of the sound samples again I wonder if this is never going to end. What is it with the songs, voices, sound of the instruments that I can´t resist? Can´t live without at the moment? (I hope it´s just for a moment). It´s becoming annoying, almost painful. Could it be something about their fantastic, dramatic story of struggling, succes and sad components later in their career??? There are several bands and artists that I would consider greater, more loved and more influential than the Band - the Beatles, Stones, Springsteen etc. But this is a crush for me. Or mabye I´m just going through my soon beeing 40-crisis. There are a few things in the Band-story that is similar to the Beatles-story. Years of struggle, then tremendous succes and musical development (though the Beatles never went out of songmaterial) and a break-up with conflicts and a lot of hurting one another - John/Paul, Levon/Robbie. Alright, mabye this is just me once again creating something that will fit into my own thoughts, a bittersweet love for bittersweet stories. You have to nurse your icons, right? Bye for now and take care//Helena (PS. I feel a bit limited since my english is lacking a lot of words, I hope my message comes through)


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Posted by:

John Pelham

Location: Camp Nowhere

Subject: "To Die Game"

Well then....I stand corrected. Therefore, I'd like to congratulate Wiliam McKee Evans on an excellent book that was sent to me by Patrick Brennan and Pat had the gall to put his own name on the title page. OOOOOOOOOOh, Pat. I am SO disillusioned.

Of course, perhaps there are TWO books with the same name, one of which was written by Patrick Brennan in 1998 and published by Farnsworth House, Gettysburg, PA. 17325.

John Pelham


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Posted by:

Bones

I love Jackson Browne's music, but I sure have heard unusual reports about his personal life. He evidently had demonstrated abusive behavior around his roadies (re:Lil's post) and Darryl Hannah (ex-love). Joni Mitchell wrote a scathing song about him beating his girlfriend. I have an old bootleg tape from the 70s where Jackson is praising the singing of Levon Helm in a concert.


Entered at Mon May 12 19:42:54 CEST 2003 from citrix3.doc.state.vt.us (159.105.102.8)

Posted by:

John Cass

Location: VT

Subject: Music

speaking of Jackson Browne how is his old buddy Warren Zevon doing??? I know he isn't doing real well but it seems like he must be outliving the original time he was told he had left on this earth???

loved his Letterman appearence when asked on his thoughts on time left Warren said something like you "learn to enjoy every sandwich"... it will be a sad say when Zevon is gone..

got tickets to see John Hammond on 5-14-03 in Waitsfeild VT... a solo acoustic show at a small theatre... has anyone heard his newest release??? and if so how is it??

anybody looking to plan something cool on the 4th of July day and live near Saratoga NY should go catch Neil Young and Crazy Horse... I got my tickets...

when the next Barnburner's show????? I need another shot of the Blues!!


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: "To Die Game"

Our own Patrick Brennan wrote "Secessionville: Assault on Charleston". I'm pretty certain "To Die Game" was written by William McKee Evans.


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Posted by:

Ruby Red

Location: LI

Subject: Lil

Hi Lil, The Long Island Press is back with us after a number of years being out of busines. It was called the Island Ear. It is about the only culture we get here on the Island as far as a good music paper. Hope that helps Red


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Charlie Young

Charlie, have a good time at the Keswick Theater tonight. One of my favorite venues.


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Posted by:

Lil Again

Question for someone from Long Island: I just saw today's "what's new", which includes an article from the "Long Island Press". Hmmm... is this the same newspaper I remember from many many years ago.. which I thought went out of business?? It was like a really pleasant deja-vu when I just saw the name... so I'm curious. Thanks if anyone knows.


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Posted by:

Lil

Bob Wigo: Thanks for your nice story about Jackson Browne. I've always liked his music, and was a bit disillusioned from the one and only experience I had seeing him live. Perhaps he was just having a bad night. We're all entitled I suppose.


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Posted by:

"To Die Game"

Location: The Confederate camp

Subject: Jeb Stuart biography by Patrick Brennan

On May 12, 1864 Jeb Stuart was mortally wounded at the battle of Yellow Tavern. On the anniversary of this somber event, I'd like to point out that our own Pat Brennan wrote an excellent biography about this extraordinary man, entitled "To Die Game."

If memory serves me well, Stuart was shot by a 5th Michigan private named John Huff, who was in turn killed within the month by a Confererate private named Virgil C. Caine. You can look it up.

Pat, you did a great job on your book. If I can ever lend a hand (like helping with research) on any of your future endeavors, please contact me.

John Pelham


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Legal Tender & Eric Andersen

I'm heading to the Philadephia area for my job this week and plan to catch a virtual "Mighty Wind" of old folkies (and a few young ones) at a benefit concert there tonight. One of the names on the list of performers is Rick Danko's old pal, Eric Andersen. The last time I saw Andersen play live, it was when he opened for a gig by the Byrds in Maryland, circa 1972.

Empty Now: I think the phrase from that Jackson Browne song is "legal tender," meaning money, though "thunder" does conjure up another one of his songs...


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: The court of the small

Subject: Oh what a wonderful place

« At each time one society is about falling down, the nature in its everlasting work of regeneration, provokes an event that restart things to their best… »

The quote is from one philosoph, i don’t remember who, perhaps motorcycle boy in Coppola’s « Rumble Fish ». It means that each time i had the buttons in the GB, things restart to the best, involving to me the burden to Stay, just a little bit longer, cause the promoter dont mind, and the roadies dont mind, if wr take a little time and we leave it all behind one more post

You are really a wonderful people, i dont gonna comment the posts one by one about that stuff provoked incidently by the Mother’s Day….Thanks all

Lil :The load out- Stay : the gate of all
Peter : Rosie you’re all right, when you hold me tight, Rosie that’ s my thing BEG, the Pretender, I’m gonna be your happy idiot, and struggle for the legal thunder

Yes and David Lindley is good, Rosemary Butler too…..thanks to all the other posters

My other favorite trips:

For Every Man
Our Lady of the Well - Take it Easy
Late For the sky
Before the Deluge
The Crow and the Craddle

thanks again for that wonderful moment,, The reality: THIS IS A THE BAND WEBSITE

Curtain


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Posted by:

John W.

What a lovely, heartwarming Mother's Day tribute from Tupac Shakur. This family really must be as American as apple pie. Mom Afeni Shakur, a Black Panther revolutionary who was charged with attempting to bomb several public places in New York City in 1969 (though later aquitted). Son Tupac, a slain gansta rapper and thug. I'm no Bill Bennett, but if this family is an example to hold up for Mother's Day, I have to wonder what this world is coming to.


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Steve Winwood

Happy Birthday Steve Winwood. An amazing talent.

I recall seeing Steve Winwood with Traffic at the Spectrum and his apologizing for his vocals and guitar playing as he felt neither was up to snuff. Both were brilliant in my estimation. While always recognized for his keyboard work I always felt Winwood's guitar playing was wonderful.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Jackson Browne

All this JB talk reminds me that Jackson Browne appeared on the Simpson's last night. He sang a duet with Homer - very solid stuff.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Sorry if someone's already mentioned it, but a great place to hear all sorts of slide guitarists is Rykodisc's "Everybody Slides". I have only Vol 2, which has a lovely version of "Whispering Pines" by Colin Linden, with Richard Bell on piano. Also has tracks by John Hammond, David Lindley, Chris Darrow and Amos Garrett ("Sharks Ate My Wahine").


Entered at Mon May 12 16:33:44 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.250)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Jackson Browne, etc.

Since Jackson Browne's name has come up here let's not forget David Lindley for that list of great slide players.

Yes, Jackson Browne was in a very early version of the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band but it was short lived.

Lil, I'm sorry to hear your impression was not a good one. During my time with Electric Factory Concerts here in Philly I had the experience of meeting him. It was the summer of '78 or '79 and he had his son Ethan with him on the tour. If my memory serves me well Ethan was maybe five or six years old at the time. Having arrived at the Mann Music Center two hours before curtain me and a few others were biding our time when Jackson and his son wandered up into the seating area where we had congregated. He introduced himself and his son and we had a very pleasant encounter. Within minutes a few of the guys had engaged Ethan in a Frisbee toss and Jackson took great joy in his son's efforts to throw and catch the disc. He was very kind and unassuming and genuinely appreciative of the interest his son was receiving. We spent a good half hour or so in his company and he was nothing except kind to everyone. I certainly recall that night during his last encore Jackson calling several folks up on stage to dance while the band closed out the set. I guess we can only go on our own experiences and mine was a good one.

Is anyone here familiar with the Darden Smith disc entitled "Little Victories" ? I don't recall his name having been mentioned here. It's a wonderful effort and I highly recommend it.


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Posted by:

Gene

Web: My link

Subject: Feat Web Discussion Board

Calvin -
Another great resource for questions and/or the trading of Little Feat boots is the Feat Web Discussion Board (link above).


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Posted by:

Gene

Web: My link

Subject: Little Feat Infos

Calvin - you can get Little Feat show infos at the FeatBase website (hit the link above). Please email me at golfbravoromeo(at)hotmail.com


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Posted by:

Mike D.

Subject: Oops, I meant "Hendrix"

Sorry!


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Posted by:

Mike D.

Subject: Jendrix/Sam/Olivia

Actually, that's not the same performance of Sgt. Pepper on Jimi's box set. The one you can hear/see on The Beatles Anthology comes from a show in December 1967 in London. The performance on the box set comes from a show in Sweden in 1967, which was taped for radio broadcast. Not to be picky, but they're not the same performance at all.


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Posted by:

paulg

Location: London Canada
Web: My link

Subject: Dave Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Happy Happy David.

Have you ever been to 'Northfield' That is the Levon & Legend of Jesse James connection...no...yes? shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Jackson Browne, people in bands and Charlie Daniels

I believe Jackson Browne was in the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band early on. If memory serves wasnt he in the early years, then they split up for about a year, and when they got back together and started having success he was no longer a memeber?

Now Ive got a question. I picked up some Little Feat Bootlegs the other day-In one from 76 when introucing the band Lowell introduces fiddle player Charlie Daniels. Does anyone know if that is thee Daniels, I was under the impression Devil Went DOwn to Georgia broke around 1976-perhaps he was a celebrity guest at a show? If anyone knows Id appreciate a response.


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Posted by:

Lil

Subject: Jackson Browne

I've always loved "The load-out", that 'tribute' to roadies.... which is probably an ironic tune of his, since I saw him many years ago and he was incredibly rude to those working for him. I guess when so many people compliment you and consider you a VIP, that gives you the right to treat people like dirt. Sad really.

BTW, didn't Jackson Browne once play in the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Empty Now: The song that resonated the most for me on Jackson's "The Pretender" was "Your Bright Baby Blues".....

"No matter how fast I run I can never seem to get away from me. No matter where I am I can't help thinking I'm just a day away from where I want to be"....."Baby if you can hear me.....Turn down your radio.....There's just one thing I want you to know.....When you be near me I felt the love stirring in my soul.....Yeah.....Yeah.....Yes I have"....guitar....And of course the ending.....when you close your eyes....

Have you heard him sing with Canada's Jann Arden? They sing together "Unloved"......


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Jackson Browne / The Gourds

EN – I had a Jackson Browne focus after seeing him recently, and “Running on Empty” got played a lot, especially ‘Rosie’ and ‘Stay.’ I’m going to explore more back catalogue too.

Being easily influenced, I got my second Gourds album on Saturday, Stadium Blitzer. I had Ghosts of Hallelujah right after it came out, and I couldn’t decide what to go for next, so decided on the track titles – they sounded good. Am getting into it today.


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Posted by:

Lil

DaveZ: Well then... Happy Birthday a coupla weeks early (it's John's fault! :-). This, I guess, gives me the distinction of being the first.

Did anyone else hear that June Carter Cash is in critical condition...? I caught the tail end of a report here this morning. Anyone know what happened?

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: BEG : Wonderful stuff about Jackson Browne

You know, i didn’t realized before that the suicide of Jackson’s wife is implicit in the song i posted below. Once i did that, i am blowed by the strength of the work of that guy, and of course the ingrate position he has in the public audience (perhaps he needs another Jan site). Very very very pleased to know that your were a real-time listener of « The Pretender », i was too. In fact i started to hold all Jackson’s albums at T-time before the deluge (funny), after his publi hit « running on empty » he turned to politics songs….too much politicized….i missed a lot of his songs…lately he released a true « artistic-sentimental-high quality album « I’m alive » and recently « The Neked ride home ». Anyway….
Having to post one song in Mother’s Day it was of course a mimetic reflexe to choice a Jackson’s one. Tough i realize that the song is more children oriented (with a personal concern) than mother oriented, Fortunately the essence of a mother lies in her children, thus i am not too much out of context. Btw…I just want to add that by mimetism i missed to wish a good Mother’s (and son’s) day also to all the mothers out of the GB….that’s natural. To emphasize the greatness of Jackson i will amende myself by a sample from a very sweet song from « runnin on empty »,

The road (for correcting my former post)

« Highways and dancehall
The good songs take you far
You speak about the moon
But you dream about the star »

Dylan…my blue eyed son…pufff…non interesting…trivial (non familial, politics)

Thanks BEG, i never doubted on your ability to sustain a continue refreshing stuff

…continuity..Peter : How with your Jackson Brown listenning by these days


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Scotch mist

Ben – I haven’t heard ‘What’s that? Scotch mist?’ for a few years, but my father used to say it in the 50s / early 60s. I don’t think I’ve ever said it myself. I looked it up in the Dictionary of Catch Phrases, and it’s 1920s Royal Air Force slang in origin. According to the book, it suggests either that someone is seeing things, or more usually failing to see something that is obviously there. I remember it as the latter.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland tx

PV, Do Brits often say "What's that, Scotch Mist?"

I found there are several Marmelade "Best Ofs" in print. One with a sticker on the CD hyping the the fact that "Here Comes The Rain" was used in a Gap Ad. There's no escape....


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Posted by:

Long Distance Operator

Has anyone mentioned the great Mick Taylor?


Entered at Mon May 12 06:27:16 CEST 2003 from (204.60.19.116)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Slide

I'm impressed with the number of great slide players that people have come up with. There really are quite a few beyond the obvious ones. I just remembered that Jack from the White Stripes plays a prety decent slide.

I'm reminded of a stereotype that a musician friend of mine used to perpetuate regarding bands & musicians: "Drummers are crazy, Bass players are drunks, and everyone is a guitarist!"--I don't think that this applies to "The Band," but think about friends you might have had who played in bands growing up.


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Posted by:

cupid

errr..that would be the Beatles anthology DVD..


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Posted by:

D.G. Recordings

Location: Merry old England

Subject: "Songs without singers..."

The "songwriting" and "Guitar style"...of Robbie Robertson will remain in my heart forever...( as a fellow musician myself)...but without the vocals of Levon,Rick and Richard...they would have just remained "Good Songs"...and that`s all. As it turned out "Ronnie H."...bought the boys together...who subseqently,as a "collective"...lifted these songs, to become a part of American History...but without the talents of each individual vocalist...I`m sure this web site would never have come to life!!!!.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Thanks folks, you can send all the presents to... hey, wait a minute... it's not my BDay... I am assuming John D meant it is the BDay of the great state of MN?... I am a Gemini however, and instead of turning 41 a week plus change before the Garth shows... it's a week plus change after the Garth shows... btw, I have been temporarily banned in my household from using words that begin with T, G, M or H... hmmm, maybe this BDay thing is an omen... anyway, I feel like I need to learn a little more about Buddy Holly now... and I'm probably in the minority here, but slide doesn't really do it for me... unless it's trombone... I'll probably discover it 5 years from now though... nice to hear from the folks in Baltimore... does anybody else miss Butch?...


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Posted by:

cupid

Subject: Jimi Hendrix' Lonely Hearts club Band

It might also intrest you to know Sam that footage of that very Hendrix performance is on the recently released Beatles Anthology..they discuss it briefly and then wap..heeeeeere's Jimi!..Peace Cupid


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Hi Olivia - welcome. I'm proud to be the one to lure you in with my Hendrix post. I did not know that that Jimi performance was available, or even recorded. I will have to check into that for sure. Thanks - and stick around this place - it's interesting. It's like the W.S. Walcott Medicine Show, you'll meet saints and sinners, losers and winners. And some of us can be any one of the four on any given day. That's probably why we've been on the GB so long.


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Posted by:

Bennie

Subject: slide players

As far as slide players go I have to vote for young phenom Derek Trucks. I haven't heard anybody playing John Coltrane and Miles Davis compositions on the slide guitar like he does. Thats not to slight any of the other good players, I just think he's taking the instrument to new levels, maybe Sonny Landreth is in there also. Two true masters.


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Posted by:

Lil

Bob Wyman: Thanks for the link to "Mama tried". Funny stuff.

Happy Birthday Dave Z!!! With love from all of us, D,S,J&J.


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Posted by:

Bob Wyman

Location: Colorado
Web: My link

Subject: Mothers

The above link should guide you to a hilarious take off on Merle's "Mama Tried" from Prairie Home Companion...


Entered at Sun May 11 22:41:33 CEST 2003 from accel31.lax.untd.com (64.136.26.41)

Posted by:

olivia

Location: ca

Subject: jimi

bayou sam, did you know that you can here that performance on the jimibox set? you might have already known that but if not you should check it out. disc four is my personal favorite. anyways this is my first time I've ever written in the band's website guest book and when I saw how many people write in this guest book it makes me happy because I don't feel so alone when it comes to saying the band is one of the greatest bands ever.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: To Dave Z

Happy Birthday Minnesota! Today is your day!


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Posted by:

Donna

Location: PA

Oops! I thought I typed Jimi as opposed to Jimmy, as in Hendrix.


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Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Sliding

also, Duane Allman.


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Posted by:

Donna

Location: PA

Subject: Sliding Home

My fav slide guitarist are Jim Weider, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Roy Buchanan, Ry Cooder, Muddy, and Hendrix.

I could be wrong about this, but I seem to remember that VH-1, a few months ago were playing "The Jimmy Hendrix Story". If my memory serves me well, I thought that in one of the interviews, Jimmy was asked who had influenced or inspired him, and he said, "Bob Dylan, The Band, Paul Butterfield's Better Days, and Albert King". Does anyone else remember hearing about this?

I like to wish all the Mom's in this guestbook, a very happy Mother's Day!


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: Jimi

Great hendrix story that most of you probably know=

Jimi was booked to play a little theater in London owned by Brian Epstein (Saville Theater?), and several of rocks upper crust were there to see this guitar wiz that everyone was talking about, including The Beatles. This show was on a Sunday - three days after the Sgt. Pepper album was released. Jimi and the boys opened the show with the title cut "Sgt.Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band", which blew the Beatles minds......What a cool - and ballsy - thing for Jimi to do.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Empty Now: Beautiful words by a father who knew that his children one day would have to deal with their mother's suicide....When "The Pretender" came out I was playing it non-stop....It's my fave recording of his without a doubt.....I could have chosen "Mama" by The Spice Girls but I chose Tupac's "Dear Mama" since I was thinking about my former inner city students today.....One line I forgot in the song was actually the one that moved me the most....

....and when it seems that I'm hopeless
You say tha words that can bring me back in focus.....

.....and there's Buffalo Norton.....and I think Dylan played on one song in "Hard Rain" sliiiiide.....but I always thought it was Mick Ronson.....


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Serge, to protect you against the sterile grand mothers who want to spoil you reputation, from « A river runs through it », Norman Mc Lean, that book is my reservation of the best quotes

« When the Gospel told us to be kind toward our neighbor, we know that we are completely unable to help our neighbour when he really need it »


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Holly, Hendrix & "Standing in the Shadows of Motown"

Bob Dylan mentioned Hendrix when the 1974 tour with The Band hit Seattle and then in a more recent awards show spoke with reverence of attending a Buddy Holly concert in Duluth in the late 1950s. I think that Buddy and Jimi would be considerably less legendary if they were still around today, while Bob would be bigger than Elvis had he died in that 1966 motorcycle wreck. But as he sang, "up on housing project hill, it's either fortune or fame...neither is to be what they claim."

Speaking of fame, I finally saw the great documentary about the studio guys behind the Motown hit machine and it is a great piece of filmmaking. It's good to see these guys finally getting their long overdue recognition--and to see powerful performances by young voices including Ben Harper and Joan Osbourne who admire the contributions of these little-known musicians.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Epydemy


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Posted by:

Mike

Location: Baltimore

Subject: Levon Helm

I know that two of my best buddies, Jamie and Kerry already posted but I just wanted to say how amazing it was to get to meet Levon thursday night here in Baltimore. The man has more talent than I could ever hope to have and it was a real honor to be able to watch him play up on that stage. thanks to everyone that we got to meet, Chris, Pat, Butch, and especially Levon who made our night. I can't believe that I have had the privlage to meet both Levon and Garth in the past few months. It has been a dream come true for the rest of my band members and I.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

...as a speciality of todays widespread epidemia


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: correctness again

Serge: warning, the sterile grand mother uses your IP address. I am yet amazed how it doesn't exist a psychiatry of the internet


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Rollie = nice links on your last couple of posts, and non-political too. Thanks :-)

Speaking of rollie - I was watching The Last Waltz last night and I noticed that after Neil Diamond's song ends, and as the picture goes to black, someone says something to the effect of "great song". I wonder if it was RR or someone else. I've ruled out Levon as the one who says it.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: slide

Even though not a slide player by trade, I must mention John Lennon's playing on a tune called "John Sinclair", from his widely hated (not by me) album "Sometime in New York City"........the Walrus also plays nice slide on George's "For You Blue" ("Elmore James' got nothing on this baby").


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Mother's Day

To all the mothers in the GB, including the steril Grand-Mother who signed « me » , here Jackson Browne (The Best) The only child, in album « The Pretender » 1976

Boy of mine
As your fortune comes to carry you down the line
And you watch as the changes unfold
And you sort among the stories you've been told
If some pieces of the picture are hard to find
And the answers to your questions are hard to hold

Take good care of your mother
When you're making up your mind
Should one thing or another take you from behind
Though the world may make you hard and wild
And determine how your life is styled
When you've come to feel that you're the only child
Take good care of your brother

Let the disappointments pass
Let the laughter fill your glass
Let your illusions last until they shatter
Whatever you might hope to find
Among the thoughts that crowd your mind
There won't be many that ever really matter

But take good care of your mother
And remember to be kind
When the pain of another will serve you to remind
That there are those who feel themselves exiled
On whom the fortune never smiled
And upon whose life the heartache has been piled
They're just looking for another
Lonely child

And when you've found another soul
Who sees into your own
Take good care of each other


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Posted by:

Rollie

Subject: have we mentioned Son House......?????????


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Posted by:

Rollie

Web: My link

Subject: Sliders

....and of course,Bob Brozman,Robert Johnson, Tampa Red,Blind Blake,Bukka White and, lest we forget,Richard Manuel. Did Mr Robertson ever use the slide ???? Check out the link for a great page of sliders...........


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Tupac & Vegas

Funny seeing Tupac lyrics the day before I fly to Vegas. He was killed within walking distance of the Vegas Hilton where I am staying. This is a business trip and I am in town for a series of meetings, and the funny thing is, I am packing my suitcase full of groceries. I was able to get a suite with full kitchen, etc. I find Vegas to be very depressing and one of my least favorite places to visit, so I tend to get a nice room and just 'cocoon' at night. Last year it was with a video of the Last Waltz and some decent wine. I travel so much nightlife has little appeal for me, especially surrounded by tourists and middle-aged businessmen who seldom get out and are blowing their annual budget in 2-3 nights. Not for me. And I'm not a gambler either, so it just feels very seedy and lonely. New York New York? I get to see the real thing again in 3 weeks. Blues and Jazz spots? I get to Chicago, New Orleans, Memphis, and New York every year for the real thing, without the tackiness. Looking forward to a lively week on the GB with my laptop to retain some sanity!


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Happy Mother's Day to all the BEAUTIFUL MAMAS!

I tried to find some quote or lyric to post here on this day. Nothing seemed to fit appropriately to each Mother I have met through this site. We are all at unique phases of the experience...in different places. I'd just like to wish you Godspeed and congratulate you on the soul, courage and love you show in the most significant role of your life.


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Posted by:

DANNY L. HIGHTREE

Location: OHIO ORIGINALLY, BUT AZ. NOW

Subject: THE BAND

I THINK THE BAND WERE TIGHT AND AM JUST NOW, AT 41 YEARS OLD LEARNING TO PLAY SOME OF THEIR SONGS ON GUITAR. THE LAST WALTZ WAS ALWAYS ONE OF MY FAVORITE VIEWING AND LISTENING EXPERIENCES. WISH THEY WERE ALL ALIVE. REST WELL RICHARD!


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Posted by:

Me

Subject: To P. Viney

Happy Mother's Day to(MR.)Viney


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

You are appreciated...

When I was young, me and my mama had beef
17 years old kicked out on tha streets
though back in tha time, I never thought I'd see her face
ain't a woman alive that can take my mamma's place
suspended from school, scared ta go home
I was a fool with tha big boys breaking all tha rules
shed tears with my baby sister
over tha years we wuz poorer than tha other little kids
and even though we had different daddies
tha same drama when things went wrong we blamed mama
I reminisced on tha stress I caused, it wuz hell
hugg'en on my mama from a jail cell
and who'ed think in elementary, heeeey i'd see tha penitentiary
One day
running from tha Police, that's right
Momma catch me--put a whoop'en to my backside
and even as a crack fiend mama
ya always was a black queen mama
I finally understand for a woman
it ain't easy--trying ta raise a man
ya always wuz committed, a poor single mother on welfare
tell me how ya did it
there's no way I can pay ya back
but tha plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated...

Chorus

Laaaaady, don't cha know we luv ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, place no one above ya
Sweeeet Laaaady, don't cha know we luv ya

Ain't nobody tell us it wuz fair
no luv for my daddy, cause tha coward wuzn't there
he passed away and I didn't cry
cause my anger, wouldn't let me feel for a stranger
they say i'm wrong and I'm heartless
but all along I wuz looking for a father
he wuz gone
I hung around with tha thug's and even though they sold drugs
they showed a young brother luv
I moved out and started really hang'in

I needed money of my own so I started slang'in
I ain't guilty cause
even though I sell rocks
It feels good, putting money in your mailbox
I love paying rent when tha rents due
I hope ya got tha diamond necklace that I sent to you
cause when I wuz low, you was there for me
ya never left me alone, cause ya cared for me
and I can see ya coming home after work late
ya in tha kitchen trying ta fix us a hot plate
just working with tha scraps you wuz given
and mama made miracles every Thanksgiving
but now tha road got rough, your alone
trying ta raise two bad kids on your own
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated...

Chorus

pour out some liquor and I reminisce
cause through tha drama, I can always depend on my mama
you say tha words that can get me back in focus
when I wuz sick as a little kid
ta keep me happy there's no limit to tha things ya did
and all my childhood memories
are full of all tha sweet things ya did for me
and even though I act craaaazy
I got ta thank tha Lord that ya maaaade me
There are no words that can express how I feel
Ya never kept a secret, always stayed real
and I appreciate how ya raised me
and all tha extra love that ya gave me
I wish I could take tha pain away
If you can make it through tha night, there's a brighter day
everything'll be alright if ya hold on
it's a struggle
everyday gotta roll on
and there's no way I can pay ya back
but my plan is ta show ya that I understand
you are appreciated...

Chorus

DEAR MAMA...TUPAC


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Posted by:

Lil

Thank you, Dag Braathen, for "Driftin Away". Made me cry.

Happy Mother's Day to all the other mothers out there. I have to work.. so relax a bit for me today, ok?


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Posted by:

Mick Terry

Location: Los Angeles (via Baltimore)
Web: My link

Subject: this site

Really enjoyed reading numerous pages here, especially the History series.

Having been strongly influenced by The Band, it seems strange to only now discover this site.

A bit of proof-reading could be in order, but otherwise, a very nicely done & informative testimonial. Jan Høiberg & associates should be proud.

mickterry.com


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Posted by:

Jamie & Kerry

Location: Baltimore

Subject: Levon

Hey all. We've been trying to cope with our experience with Levon the other night, we would have posted sooner. Unbelievable show at Patterson Park on Thursday night. Thanks to Butch and others for the hospitality.

(Jamie speaking) I was 13 when I first read Wheels on Fire, it may have been the first book outside of school I ever read. When I shook Levon's hand and spoke with him after the show, I finally understood all of the people and the places he wrote about. It blows my mind to think that the man who sang the classics The Weight, Night they Drove old Dixie Down, and Cripple Creek actually relied on little old me for directions to 70 west! First Garth, now Levon. My parents couldn't be prouder.

(Kerry speaking) One of the first things I noticed the first time I saw The Last Waltz was the singing style of the handsome drummer. Levon Helm is a myth. He is someone that can't possibly exist in the life of an 18-year old college chick from Baltimore. I stood in the very front row on thursday night, hoping that Levon would notice me. After blowing kisses to the man, I got a chance to meet him afterwards. I didn't have to introduce myself, he came up to me and told me how much fun I made the show for him. He gave me a hug, the kind of hug that will stay with me forever (not to mention the kiss!!!).

Thanks for the goods Levon!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Also.....Blind Boy Fuller and George Thorogood and Ben Harper....That's right.....Sliiiide guitar freestyle.....Native/Afro-American Ben Harper!!!!


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Posted by:

Rollie

Web: My link

Subject: shit! how'd I forget warren haynes???????????????check out mike dowling at following link

“I don’t play guitar when Dowling’s in the band. You don’t take the game warden fishing”.--- Jethro Burns, 1977


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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: hendrix and holly and iggy

I'm enjoying these speculations on what these two greats would be doing had they lived...I do believe that if Hendrix and Miles Davis had teamed up and had good chemistry their work would have shaken up things profoundly and popular music would indeed sound much different than it does today...but I'm hard pressed to come up with an alternate history for Holly, Peter did such a killer job...I'm sure many out there know that the young Waylon Jennings was playing for Holly near the end, which makes me wonder if Holly would have moved decisively toward country...but I really think the tantalizing thing about these two artists, and why we're talking about them, is the sense that they just may have had their greatest work ahead of them...I don't know if that would have been true of, say, Jim Morrison--the marketing of his death made him into a legend--(I think "L.A. Woman" is a great, great record, though) but Holly and Hendrix would be legends if they'd lived, too...

for some reason lately I've been listening to someone whose music is light years away from the Band, but certainly legendary--Mr. Osterberg, AKA Iggy Pop--now how the hell does one explain a survivor like that--and still hard as nails, going strong, not far from 60???


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Done Sliding

Just remembered this guy named Cedell Davis. I don't remember the name of the album, but here's a review that I copied & pasted:

"Cedell Davis is one of the last of a dying breed, playing his slide guitar in the old way, with a butter knife. He's had a storied career, backing the likes of Robert Nighthawk, but didn't release his first solo album until the '90s. However, this disc should garner him a new audience, since among the friends helping him out here are Peter Buck, Barrett Martin, and Scott McCaughey, who all have their own histories and bring a touch of Seattle to his Delta blues. However, they're more than happy to remain in the background -- this is Davis' disc, after all, and he makes the most of it, letting his guitar loose frequently with the trademark wobbly slide notes, but also singing up a storm, as a few old buddies give a raw core of support behind him. It's a glorious, defiant celebration of Mississippi blues, recalling Muddy Waters more than, say, Junior Kimbrough in the deep Delta mud that sticks around greasy tracks like "Pay to Play" or the closing instrumental "Hold Me Baby." As the between-song patter shows, Davis is a warm, funny man with a host of stories, and that warmth comes through in his songs; he has the blues, but they're not going to kill him. This is a disc that's a pleasure. Maybe not his best, but very accessible, which may be just as important." -- Chris Nickson - AMG


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Still Sliding

If push came to shove, I'd probably have to chose Elmore James.


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: More Slide

Jimmy Vivino is not too shabby either!


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Slide

Don't forget about Warren Haynes from the Allman Bros!!!

As much as I love Bonnie Raitt, it was Haynes who stole the Slide show at the Radio City Salute to the Blues show back in February.


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Posted by:

Mark Atkins

Subject: Toronto needs more Barnburners

Toronto needs more Band guys. It's looking good .... we get Garth next week. Hey Butch, how about bringing the Burnburners to the Toronto Bluesfest lineup .... July 26, 27


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Seems to me that Jimi was really all about the blues... and in my alt fantasy future... an alive Jimi forced the Band to buckle down... and Robbie to stay with it... because otherwise... Jimi was all about the blues... and by the early 70's he had dropped his temporary Picadilly Circus attire... and in fact joined the Band in Woodstock to live with Van, a group which eventually far surpassed both Beatles and Stones... in popularity... consistently ranking 1 or 2 in internet or VH1 polls... years later a Mpls upstart would work hard in his basement and copy the moves and stuccato licks of former guitarist now recluse Robbie... and Prince would eventually bring Robbie out of a Hollywood funk and together join to form a competing supergroup... and they would sometimes play together both groups... and even let Buddy Holly join in on slow numbers... also there would be no Punk movement or it would be delayed until the Al Gore 2nd term... when the underground subway to Cuba was completed... adding yet another democracy to the world... but w/o war... it was rumored things turned around when Fidel hooked up with Jerry Garcia one night at one such Prince/Robbie Jimi Band jam in south Florida... and Fidel let a Prankster get him his next Coca Cola... Hola baby... Levon would refer to Jimi as our lead singer... and Richard would call Jimi Bob Dylan's grandmother and forever tease him about burning things... and meanwhile Garth and Jimi worked behind the scenes on a yet to be released accordian feedback opera loosely based on a screenplay written by the unsuccessful cult band the Who's insecure guitarist... it is now rumored for released in 2005 and star the ballsy blues singer Britney Spears (btw no such thing as boys or girls bands existed)... and finally Paul Butterfield would just be announced as an inductee to the Blues HOF (R&R rusted out and died)... and on and on...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

"I'm With You"....Roy Rogers....I can't stop smiling.....:-D

I think Ry is probably my fave sliiiide guitarist 'cause he's more in touch with his feminine side and most progressive in his passion to experiment with many genres of music.....I've seen Bonnie Raitt (play sliiide beside Eric Clapton) and Canadian Sue Foley play sliiiide when she opened for B.B. King.....Sure it was real cool and inspiring 'cause not many women can play.....They can.....

Time to play "Can't Lose What You Never Had" by Muddy Waters and Johnny Winters.....It was probably Johnny who I first listened to in the basement blaring "Prodigal Son"....

Jeff Newsom...Yeah I knew him at one time.....mean harp player and sliiiiide guitarist and he can even sing too......;-D


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Jimi & Buddy

Alternative history: 2003.

Jimi Hendrix has occupied a similar niche to Miles Davis and Frank Zappa for the last 33 years. His concerts are always a sellout, he retains a deeply loyal following but has not been a major popular figure. Some feel he’d already done his best work on the first three albums, but his great sessions for artists as varied as David Bowie in the early 80s and the reformed Band in the 1990s were outstanding, as was his classical jazz piece Trio with John McLaughlin and John Williams. His surprise 1997 crossover album, Naturally Super, was a worldwide number one, though it was a major departure from his normal style into more melodic territory.

Buddy Holly in 2003 is an icon up there with Johnny Cash, Frank Sinatra and Paul McCartney. After surviving an air crash when his popularity as a chart singer was beginning to wane, his career since leaving hospital has straddled the area between country and rock. Buddy is credited with inventing the singer-songwriter genre with his 1960s masterpiece, The Times They Are Freewheeling, as well as inventing country-rock with 1968’s The Sweet Part of the Rodeo, backed by David Crosby, Gram Parsons and Chris Hillman. Holly, Stills, Henley and Cooder was the biggest supergroup of the early 70s. His collaborations with Paul McCartney in the late 1970s, Richard Manuel in the early 80s, and his writing for many artists in the 80s (Michael Jackson’s ‘Thrilling Wall’ stands out) and his production work in the 90s have placed him at the forefront of American recording artists. His 2002 tour ‘Buddy’s Back in the World’ was the highest grossing concert tour of all time, with a line-up including Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm and Garth Hudson being applauded as the ultimate backing group.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Actually, I think most of the fancy production (strings and such) on Buddy's music was done posthumously by Holly's producer, Norm Petty? He milked a little bit more from Buddy after he was gone.

I was going to mention Bonnie Raitt too. I do have to add George Harrison to the slide guitarist discussion as well. Let's also throw in Duane Allman, and Elmore James.


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Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: The Slide Area

Ry Cooder for sure, but also the late great Lowell George (Little Feat) and the best looking slide gutiarist of all time, Bonnie Raitt. Leo Kottke ain't no slouch either. Sonny Landreth of the Goners may be one of the hottest currently playing. Rick Derringer gets honorable mention for Steely Dan's "Show Business Kids". If you include Dobro, Jerry Douglas is the bees knees. Never could get the hang of the dang thing meself.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Ry Cooder...He's known for his distinctive style marked by finger-picked bootleneck sliiiide....He's more than capable of blending roots rock, Cajun, delta blues, bebop jazz, Hawaiian, gospel, Tex-Mex barrio sounds, and of course....Cuban rhythms.....Some say "Low-Commotion", co-written with drummer Jim Keltner.....driven by some of Ry's dirtiest sliiiide riffs.....

Ry on sliiiide:....I also never used a flat pick. I've always fingerpicked. And when I started experimenting with bottleneck, everyone said, "Oh slide, great, do it some more." So I did it some more.

But slide's hard to play. It's tricky. I'll tell you. One night I lost my slide and the spare I had...it was too light. And I got scared when I realized, "If I don't have the right slide, I'm not me." So I went out and retraced my steps and finally found the damned thing underneath the seat of this guy's car. Saved the job. 'Cause with my spare, my rhythm was all thrown off. The harmonic value wasn't there. The drummer at the session asked me what was wrong and I just told him, "I got the wrong slide." It was disorienting to realize how important this little bottleneck was to my sound.

Tracy: I absolutely loooove the photo on your website of Robbie getting real close to his guitar....


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Holly/Hendrix

With all due respect to Hendrix, he was a better interpreter, and Holly the better writer. At the end of Holly's life he was already showing inclinations to go solo and become more of a producer. Had he lived, he may have surpassed the abilities Brian Wilson would later bring to the studio, and we may have had the Sgt. Pepper/Pet Sounds/Smile era 3 or 4 years sooner than we did. Hendrix, although also dieing tragically young, had 4 more years than Holly, and was probably at the peak of his abilities. The world lost Holly before we ever got to know him.


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Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: slide players/influential players

Just tossing it out there. My favorite slide players off hand, no particular order: Earl Hooker, Muddy, Roy Buchanan, Johnny Winter and Evan Johns.

Rock's most influential guitarist: though a bluesman, Hubert Sumlin gets my vote. seems all paths go thru him.

Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers out there.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

...much more interesting, much more good than his-her detractors...oh! yes!...


Entered at Sat May 10 19:34:15 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: For the correctness - while my email is a public affair

Read in the bottom line of my post-email bellow

It is intended to a personne much greater and much interesting than his-her detractors

appologies...and God protect us


Entered at Sat May 10 19:26:26 CEST 2003 from tnt-77-131.ct.dialin.ntplx.com (209.54.77.131)

Posted by:

Tracy

Subject: Holly vs. Hendrix

Hendrix introduced many to guitar feedback, how to play more sexually/provocatively, and how to pick guitar strings with your teeth. He was definitely part of the Psychedelic scene and he fit in very well. I will have to say he might have influenced a lot of African-Americans to rock, instead of the R&B influences or soul flavored artists. I talked with somebody recently and they thought the late, Terry Kath from the band, Chicago was better than Hendrix even though they were doing almost the same thing around the same time. Only, Kath wasn't as flashy and didn't play as provocatively. He had more chops.

When talking about Holly, I think he was way more influencial than Hendrix. For one, he was much more progressive for his time and being only 22 when his life ended. Who knows what he could have come up with? Possibly the things we see now in music, he might have thought about twenty to thirty-five years ago if he were still alive. Holly was one of the first artists to blend string arrangements with contemporary or Rock music. I don't think Phil Spector would have his famous "Wall of Sound" if it weren't for Holly or the various composers for soundtracks which we see nowadays, especially the likes of Michael Kamen who blends orchestras with Rock frequently if not always. Holly generally influenced The Beatles (besides the name from The Crickets) and we know where they stand in the archives of music history. He made glasses look fashionable and brought out the best in a Fender Stratocaster. I'm not completely sure about this but he and his band The Crickets might have been one of the first if not the first three man group that influenced Rock's "Super Trios" like The Jimi Hendrix Experience (with Redding and Mitchell, or Cream. I don't think Holly if he were around today being well into his 60s would be actually a performing or recording artist unless it were for incidental music. I just don't think I could imagine him doing the club circuit or being part of an oldies show. He probably would be a producer or work in the A&R department of a big time record label with the ideas and technical know-how he seemed to show.

Tracy


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Posted by:

Jon

Location: Mo

Subject: Making it to the 60's & Woodstock, etc.

I was discussing this with someone the other day, what if Elvis was still alive, what if Jimi and Janus was alive, etc. The one I always wondered about was Hank Williams Sr. I wonder how that would have turned out. Heck, even Willie Nelson grew his hair long. I would have never thought Willie Nelson to become as cool, hip and smart as he is. At 70, his voice as strong as ever.


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Posted by:

Tracy

Web: My link

Subject: One year ago today...

...Robbie was at J&R Music in NYC.

Soooooooooooooo awesome!

Tracy


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: Holly/Hendrix

Dave Z = Cool question. I love Jimi, but with all due respect to him I'd say Buddy Holly. We got to see how great Hendrix was in the short time he spent on Earth. I don't think we ever got the chance to REALLY see Buddy blossom. I know that seems strange given the great batch of songs he did during HIS short time here. But the man was only 22 when the plane went down.

I've always thought that Buddy would have progressed into the 60's and become part of the scene. Unlike guys like Elvis, Chuck berry, etc., who were, and will always be "50's" guys, I see Buddy Holly as ending up playing Woodstock, and having long hair, and doing very current style music. He seemed to have that kind of vision. He was into song writing, and he moved to Greenwhich Village and all. He may have been right there when the whole Dylan/Folk scene was starting to cook.

Y'know - another guy I like that was on the bill with Buddy on that tour, but DIDN"T get on that plane was Dion. He actually went into blues, and folk music during the mid-60's. Unfortunately he went into heavy drug use too, but came through it. Has anyone seen a Dion show in the last couple of years? he's blowing through here this summer with Jerry Lee Lewis and I was thinking of checking it out.


Entered at Sat May 10 17:58:49 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

One verse which has been forgotten is « blowin in the wind »

« How many man needs a peace to be done »

In the next following post it will be a definitive and total declaration of Peace….everything happens on the net excepted the miracles


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Airplay, New Releases, old releases

A friend of mine owns a restaraunt/pub in Akron Ohio in which I sit around shooting the breeze with friends every monday night. He pumps in a Digital Cable Music Channel instead of using canned music or a Juke Box for the Bar. I keep meaning to ask him which one of the channels he keeps it on because I never fail to hear a Band tune every evening-and not just the Weight, The Shape I'm In or 1 or 2 others. I've heard at least a dozen songs, probably more. So the guys do get airplay.

As I was leaving my favorite CD store the other day, after spending far too much money, it occured to me the hypocrisy of a recent post of mine. Chastising people my age for buying 35 year old albums to finish their complete collection of the Nazz and complainingg there is no good music when in reality they dont pay any attention to new music.

Whoever it was that was promoting the Rounders, I did purchase 1+2, I enjoyed it-I didnt go crazy over it, but Im sure Ill revisit it every so often. I enjoyed the iconoclastic tone to it, but the singers voice grated a after a while. The musicianship was pretty good though. So thanks to whoever that was.

The label Wounded Bird Records is a wonderful thing, they just released the Poco Album Cantanamos, the only Poco album form the 60s and 70s I didnt own, thereby sealing my hypocrisy. Picked up Gene Clark's WHite Light as well. SO many wonderful things are finally being released on CD finally.

I did purchase the new Jayhawks as well, not bad, but not great either. I've often felt they, much like Travis, had all the makings of a great group with a great album ready to be made but have never really pulled it off. Maybe it's just me.

Hope nobody was too bored with my meanderings.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Kerry and Michael: How'd it go in Baltimore?... Hope you had a blast and will tell us about it when you come to... Thanks John D for interview stuff...

So, who was the bigger loss to R&R, Buddy Holly or Jimi Hendrix?... Assuming each had otherwise lived a long life... with 2nd or 3rd musical comings and goings, etc,...

Have a good Mother's Day tomorrow everybody... we are gonna cookout and then catch the Survivor Finale... and continue to root on the Wild to the Stanley Cup...


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Posted by:

Rolando!

Web: My link

Subject: Slide players

....shouldn't forget Sonny Landreth,Johnny Winter,John Hammond,Jeff Newsom.........hmmm , Newsom? Who in the hell is he?


Entered at Sat May 10 16:09:24 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: addendum

Roz, i worry about my email

addendum: i dont know if occasionally someone send an email in my name....the total black cloud....now i understand a past stuff on email send between GBers


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Posted by:

Calendar Guy

Subject: The Date

By May the 10th, Richmond had fell.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Empty..

Huney bunny don't take this place so seriously. All we are is a bunch of Band lovers for the most part and we should be pleased that The Band's music has been so widespread to bring this very diverse set of individuals to this spot so lovingly dedicated to our boys. I look at this place as a watering hole. If you've ever been in a crowded bar you know how danged easy it is to bump into someone and accidently spill your drink on their brand new shoes. Maybe they'll laugh it off and throw an arm around you and say "That's alright good buddy! Let me buy you another one" or maybe they'll turn around and deck ya. If they do that DUCK ! Same here. If somebody shoots off their mouth to ya, Duck .... and laugh and come back with something funny. There's a way around every situation. Change your tag name and ISP and sneak back in pretendin' to be somebody else ... That's what I always done!


Entered at Sat May 10 13:20:53 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: The Marvel of my last hours

This title could be easily taken for that of a novel, a movie, a song, or better, a poem

After the chaotic and anarchical set of emails i received, following my last controversed post which beared a call for email, i take the responsability to post something very personal, being not sure who emailed me, and where my responses have been sent.
I understand and i accept the motivations of each of you, some doubt of my honesty, some doubt of my cleverness, some doubt simply of my existence. And some are simply giving themselves trivial supplementary efforts and concerns. Anyone get the right to fear for his interest, whatever is his interset, evil or good.
Take care of the Legal disease folks. Please folks it’s time to be mature now.

How can a place dedicated to a past joyful and sympathetic group, one place where you naturally expected harmless good sentiments, good feelings, joy, songs and poetry, became an arena for an awful amosphere full of suspiscion, feud, and complots of trivial or real interest.
The reason is, we are ill prepared to this new mode of communication, the place in fact is a strange melting of artistic, serious, life-importance, letal, ridiculous, and trivial threads. A strange confusion of virtual, dream, nightmare and folish situations, not always in concrete link with the reality of each of us. i used once to talk about a public place. Instead of a shelter for rest, you are confrounted to a run for your life.
I found a little channel to insert my small voice, being from the court of the small in The Band Pantheon. I am surely not aware of all what turned around The Band after 1976, there are some « Us », there are some « Them », Thus, my voice is worthy by nothing but its sincerity, it is awkwardly sincere, betrayed by a horrible spelling, it earned a certain popularity through the credibility and modesty for the judgement of some threads.
Oppositely to what you have the right to think, the irony is that no one of my posts exagerate the reality by any manner, i sent my thoughts exactly like they were. I wished they could bring some support for the wonderful things you are doing, or at least just some support for the wonderful person you are being. I’m neither with Us neither with Them, i am by my brain with You, by my heart with You
I disappointed you by moments, i beared you a joyful surprise by moments, i let you indifferent by moments. Thus, i easily understand how you can be sometimes just interested, sometimes full with enthusiasm, sometimes dubitative or confuse, perhaps sometimes angry, being unfamilar with such a speech.
By these days, that kind of speech brings enough risk to provoke exactly the opposite result, just through its naive content, i am concious of the risk. There is a good God who protects you and protects this site, i’am sure, at least the good third of the site.
I dont think it was hard to understand. My unique crusade during all these months is the peace in the GB, the Peace, the Peace. Sooner or later the Peace will be, perhaps within an empty GB. And i am sure you are in the side of the Peace

WARNING : this post stands for an e-mail, skip, you are not concerned It is very personal, it is neither a declaration of love nor a call for date. It is intended to one person, he-she will recognize him-herself



Entered at Sat May 10 04:46:20 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.252.101)

Posted by:

PUtEmUp (Jeff)

Subject: Airplay

Charlie, come on up to the Apple. The band has always and still does get plenty of airplay on the stations that are not top 40 stations . Back in the late 60s , I remember the Band being all over commercial radio, TNTDODD, maybe The Weight. But the Band always was a staple on the kinds of stations that people like us would listen to up here. Same goes for lower upstate NY, and for Joisey. And i can testify that from 97 to 2002 , i heard plenty of them in St Lou.

Ain't much better than hearing the Band on the car radio, specially when you least expect it. those first notes always get me charged up. Same goes for the work radio, back when I was swinging a hammer.


Entered at Sat May 10 04:41:52 CEST 2003 from dialin-663-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.3.155)

Posted by:

Gene

Hey Keith

Who else is in your top 3?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Still here to kiss my ass goodbye another day.

Checked on my robbins nest and now it is up to 3 eggs. Guess I will miss the hatching when I'm away next week. PETER/JERICHO: Totally agree with you on that one in terms of a remastered edition, but I have one question. How much improvement can we really expect of cd's released as cd's in the first place? I suppose if they were recorded in analog you could get some slight improvement, but in terms of albums recorded digitally in the first place, what's the point? I'm thinking Donald Fagen's The Nightfly (1982) and Dire Straits' Brothers In Arms (1985) both early, pure digital recordings. I would imagine they were not recorded with as many bits as say, the latest equipment was capable of in 1995 or 2001, so what is the advantage soundwise? (although for the Band, I would take the bonus tracks and liner notes)


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: The Band on the Radio...Look Out Cleveland...

I guess the reason that The Band never got much radio play was the fact their music never fit in any neat little category--and still doesn't. Americana? How can you insult four Canadians with that one?

JTF: I just heard on NBC's evening news program that during the last week, the USA broke the recorded history record for most tornadoes at one time, with over 250 spinning simultaneously from Virginia to Colorado. Saddam's revenge? Nah--just good old Mother Nature, the ultimate weapon of mass destruction.


Entered at Sat May 10 01:25:35 CEST 2003 from cpe-65-25-199-100.mn.rr.com (65.25.199.100)

Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

John W: That guy looks like he got his beard fluffed up... and hiz hair blow'd off by... listening to a good version of the Genetic Method... and that dubious looking smile... maybe he's what Red is to Foghorn Leghorn... damn, I'm like a Lays chip commercial... can't just post once in here... well, back to the Betty Ford lurking area I go...


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Posted by:

Keith Gargano

Location: New Jersey.

Subject: This "BAND"!

Being 15 in 1971 it was then that I first heard "The Band" from my brother. I found them to be refreshing. Everyone in rock started to become mega-electric instrument bashing retreads. The Bands songs are very digestable plus the fact that their style changes but stays the same thoughout all their tunes. Plus the fact they were not a "packaged" band as most groups were. It's truly amazing that their's little radio play of this group today, why? I feel it was because they had no Mick Jagger type lead singer or some other androgenous gimmick. I loved the fact that all played more than one instrument, setting a catchy vocal and musical sound that makes me feel like I've lived in the country all my life. Their sound has elements of at least four styles that I can name. Country, Gospel, rock and blues. They are in my top "3" groups for these reasons.


Entered at Sat May 10 00:06:59 CEST 2003 from (204.60.33.97)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Dylan-Tangled up in Blues

Apparently the House of Blues label is now defunct? I'll send the updated info to Jan.

Peter: I sent you another email to your address. Let me know if you don't get it.

tjatkinson "at" snet.net


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Posted by:

Russ

Location: Rosendale

Subject: Weil - Garth?

Looks more like Steve Rothenberg... if ya'll know that guy. ;) Russman


Entered at Fri May 9 23:39:34 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-254.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.254)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Jericho

Rob Bowman did a truly fine job on the remasters sleeve notes- put them all together and you have an excellent third Band book. Chet Flippo on the other hand was dire on “Across the great Divide” box set. Talking of remasters, isn’t it time to give Jericho the full remaster / bonus track treatment? There’s enough stuff leading up to it for a complete bonus disc – No One Sings Em Like Ray, Circle of Time, The Tide Will Rise, Night On The Town, Keep The Home Fires Burning, let alone all the earlier versions of the album. And Jericho is a better album than either Cahoots or Islands. I guess finding a label is the problem. But a 2 CD Jericho is an attractive proposition. (If it ever happens, they won’t find anyone cheaper than me for sleeve notes. You can’t get cheaper than free.)

Todd – hasn’t arrived. Try viney at mailbox.co.uk (with ‘at’ meaning @) . Send Jan details of this alternative to the House of Blues disc – it isn’t on the site as far as I know.


Entered at Fri May 9 22:15:07 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

Web: My link

Subject: Dr. Andrew Weil

Anyone else think this guy resembles Garth?


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: HST-Songbook Series / Dylan Tribute

Peter: Thanks for the info re: the Songbook series. I sent you an email, but I'm not sure if I had the right address. Is it the "mailbox" address, or the "elt" address?

Also, I picked up the 1999 version of the Band doing "One Too Many Mornings." The release that I picked up is on Compendia Media Group 2002 and is called: "Songs of Bob Dylan-All Blues'd Up" It seems to have all the same tracks as the House of Blues release, but in a different order. I know that this was released after Jubilation. I'm assuming that it was also recorded after Jubilation.


Entered at Fri May 9 21:55:11 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Might be time to kiss the ol' ass goodbye

Severe weather here and tornadoes on the ground. Charlie, I here C-Ville had a touchdown too.


Entered at Fri May 9 21:38:31 CEST 2003 from (158.72.76.240)

Posted by:

SteveH

Location: Maryland

Subject: Levon in Baltimore!

I drove up to Baltimore to see Levon at the Blues Festival last night. He and the Barn Burners put on a very hot show under a mostly clear sky with a half moon sailing overhead. Most of the show I stood behind the stage and watched Levon play drums. He's a master.

I also introduced myself to Butch, who is very kind. Thanks Butch. After their set I hung around for a while. Levon was speaking to some young musicians (at least young compared to me) and I did talk to Chris O'Leary and some other Guestbook users, including Kerry. Nice to meet other Guestbookers.


Entered at Fri May 9 21:21:39 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.57)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Web: My link

Subject: Lucinda Williams

With recent postings concerning Lucinda Williams I thought some folks here might enjoy this piece from CNN.com.


Entered at Fri May 9 21:02:47 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.57)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: ???

Or was that a semi-Demi Moore or less ?


Entered at Fri May 9 21:00:42 CEST 2003 from powellgoldsteinfraziermurphy.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.3.234)

Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Forbidden Fruit

Ferdinand: I think the line "Don't shoot the whole works away" gives more than just a clue to what Robbie Robertson was writing about.


Entered at Fri May 9 20:55:12 CEST 2003 from (216.88.34.18)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Ferdinand, Band song references to other Band Songs

Remedy on Jericho: 'Spent my last cold dollar getting in The Shape That I'm In.


Entered at Fri May 9 20:33:47 CEST 2003 from inktomi2-cdf.server.ntl.com (62.252.32.5)

Posted by:

Ferdinand

Subject: soul-selling

Hey, this website is wonderful. I've been reading this GB, and all you regular posters seem to really know what you're talking about, so I wonder if you could just help me with a thought I had. In Northern Lights Southern Cross the first song, Forbidden Fruit, is sung in the 1st person, kind of, and there's a bit about a little brother (or something) selling his soul. D'you reckon this is a reference to Daniel and the Sacred Harp? You know, "Ohhh, Daniel's gonna land in jail," that bit.

Now that's a really picky little question, for me at least, but I was just curious. Does anyone know of any Band songs that do have references to other ones?

Anyway, I'd love to hear from anyone about it, your guestbook is great. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Bones

Peter: I agree that it is not a good idea to be an "insider" if you want to stay objective about the music, whether you're writing a book or an article. However, liner notes are different. I think they should be somewhat biased. It's easy to say great things about the first two Band albums, but I thought Bowman did a nice job explaining why it is worthwhile to own Islands as well.

Thanks to Roger and David Powell for answering my Jayhawks question.


Entered at Fri May 9 20:25:12 CEST 2003 from powellgoldsteinfraziermurphy.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.3.234)

Posted by:

David Powell

John D: Thanks for the update.

Pat B: Are you saying the movie featured a semi-Demi Moore?


Entered at Fri May 9 20:24:46 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.57)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: John D. --- Garth

Thanks John, for your generosity in sharing your experience with Garth. I'm anxious to hear your discussion.


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Posted by:

John D

Location: Toronto

Subject: Garth Interview

I had a wonderful conversation with Garth this morning for about 30 minutes. Radio being what it is (TV as well for that matter) it will be edited for broadcast only because of the length of it. I will attempt to leave as much of the good stuff in as I can.

I haven't talked to Jan yet; but I'm thinking of asking him if I can upload the entire interview on to this site (other than the "off the record" stuff)because it is 30 M in size and won't fit in anyone's mailbox. Plus it would take forever to send.

I was pleased that Garth liked the questions and found them to his interest. For a man who has been quiet for so long; it's wonderful to hear him speak of both the past, present and future. Finally finding out the real source of what was to become known as the "Genetic Method." His reasons for The Lowery over a B or C3. His favorite electronic keyboards. His passion for world music. Burrito Deluxe etc. Anyway I'm going to send Jan an e-mail. I thought this interview was running tomorrow morning; but it will be next Saturday Morning. Thanks.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Roz, can't put nothin' past you.

Peter, Sexual Perversity in Chicago is a David Mamet play that was made into the 1980's movie About Last Night, a production which is best noted for featuring a nude pre-breast enhanced Demi Moore. The play is much better.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Pat Brennam

Hey Man That Was My Line!


Entered at Fri May 9 19:28:43 CEST 2003 from h-68-164-2-71.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.164.2.71)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

jtullfan, you're right, I should have blamed all conservatives, Republicans, CFO's, CEO's, lamebrains, etc. for listening to a nitwit like Bill Bennett. Next time, the low road.

And on the other hand, Robert Byrd is one entertaining relic.

Have fun in Vegas, baby.


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Posted by:

WS Walcott

Subject: white stripes, wilco, etc.

I must admit that I have lost touch with a lot of the newer music. I guess other things, work, bills, kids, etc., take priority. So the only new music I do know anything about is when some older artist,ie: Dylan, puts out a new album.

But thanks to the GB I have been able to check out a lots of newer groups that I would not have been exposed to before. When posters recommend a group, I usually check them out. I think for the most part that we have fairly similar, and good, taste in music.

Since reading the GB I have listened to Ryan Adams, Whiskeytown, Uncle Tupelo/Wilco, Old 97s. Most recently I listened to White Stripes "Elephant." I didn't think I would like their stuff, but its great! I am now looking forward to checking out The Gourds and the Jayhawks. How about a group called The Hole Dozen, anybody know anything about them?/n As a matter of fact, about the only group recommended in here I didnt like, was The Cromatix. And I thought I would really like them. I just couldnt get into them. Oh well. So please keep us all posted on any new groups that might be worth a listen.


Entered at Fri May 9 18:47:45 CEST 2003 from (216.88.34.18)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Red Alert!

Pat, I'll try to steer clear. I've learned from your mistake! Besides, I've got to much yeardwork to contemplate and I have to pack for Vegas. :)


Entered at Fri May 9 18:45:15 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-217.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.217)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Red Ken

Ken Livingstone – well, the guy is a bit of a prat and always has been. Before he introduced London’s congestion charge of £5 a day to cut traffic, there were abominable cases of traffic lights being set to deliberately impede traffic flow. Coming off the M4 at Hammersmith, it would take 20 minutes to travel less than a mile, stopping at lights where no traffic was crossing – all designed just to discourage traffic coming into London, so I’ve cursed him roundly, obscenely and with great invention many times. Discouraging visitors to London seems an idiotic policy when tourism and shopping are two of the city’s main industries. Every time I go to London, I spend money which most mayors would see as a positive thing. I’m going tomorrow, and apart from theatre tickets to see Matthew Perry & Minnie Driver in ‘Sexual Perversion in Chicago’ (I hope this new play doesn’t reflect badly on our posters from that fine city) , lunch, £26 to park the car, Tower Records are sure to benefit financially from my visit, as will various other shops if my wife gets near them. This does boost the London economy, methinks. Ken thinks us visitors from rural England should only come into London by train, but as petrol will only be £20 and parking £26, paying nearly £100 for two by filthy and unreliable train (we don’t want a cheap day return at £60 for two because we want to be there early) seems economic madness, as car is actually quicker at weekends, plus you can listen to music. When we have five people going as we often do, train would be insanity. The secret to decreasing congestion in London would be the French / Japanese method – cheap, reliable, clean and fast trains. This hasn’t occurred to the British yet.

On the other hand last night Ken was asked if his remarks would hinder US tourism, and he said that if anyone could say they weren’t visiting any foreign city because the local mayor had criticized Tony Blair, he would personally treat them to dinner, which is probably a safe enough offer. As I’ll be in London tomorrow, if anyone knows of such a mayor … I could be in for a free dinner. Except that I don’t particularly relish his company, though he is an amusing and iconoclastic chat show guest


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Jayhawks

I don't know if anyone else would agree with this, but I hear a John Phillips (from the Mama's and the Papa's) influenece in the Jayhawks music (at least in the Hollywood Town Hall album).

There is a John Phillips solo album called "Pay, Pack & Follow" that surfaced a couple of years ago. It was recorded in the early/mid 1970's with Keith Richard's and Mick Jagger and really
shows what a great songwriter John Phillips was. He sings a lot on the album, which is something that you didn't get to hear a lot of from him in the Mama's and the Papa's. Two songs in
particular: "Oh Virginia," and "Sunset Boulevard," remind me a lot of the Jayhawks on Hollywood Town Hall. It's probably a coincidence, since the John Phillips tapes didn't surface untill
2001, and the Jayhawks album came out in 1992.


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Amanda: Hickory Wind is the song that made me pick up my first Emmylou LP... and I will always love her version as my favorite... but now, I don't know because I love the new Burrito Deluxe version... I got shivers when first listening to the line "all the riches and pleasures, what else could life bring" followed by Garth kicking up some pixie dust... almost hinting at more mystery, possibility and hope for the weary... and later following his solo contribution... "it's a hard hard way to find out that trouble is real, in a faraway city with a faraway feel"... so haunting... I love those lines... Anyway, this is a great CD even w/o Garth... I'm glad your family had a good time...

Have fun with Garth John D... btw which Toronto show on you going too?... I'm sitting here looking for a third omen of some sort... when I read a post by Serge thanking Peter V... and then today in What's New... it says Maud will sit in on a few numbers... That should be enough, right? Damn... gotta go lurk on it for a while... later...

Btw, that 8/2 show where you get to see the JWB, the Crowmatix, and the Hudsons... outside... in the own backyard... will be awesome!!!!!! My wife doesn't read this place so she doesn't know that I may try to subtlely change our vacation by three days to take a little detour, hee hee hee... Hey, I'm only dreamin' here... but... back to lurking for a while...

btw, Peter V, I agree re: BP Audio DVD lyrics... but I love your articles...


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Subject: jtulfan, alert

A friendly reminder: "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Hornsby Plays With Dylan in Virginia

Bruce Hornsby played piano behind Bob Dylan on "All Along the Watchtower" in Portsmouth, Virginia last night. Dylan played the song Hornsby co-wrote with Don Henley--"End of the Innocence"--during more than one concert last year.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Fucking Reds

Let's blow'em all to kingdom come!


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Posted by:

John W.

Web: My link

Subject: "Red Ken"

The 182nd Airborne has been deployed and is now on the way to London.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Bob, out of all the boys' post-LW output, I revisit Storyville the most. A Band harmony moment: in Hold Back the Dawn when towards the end they repeat "Won't you lay...". What About Now is another one with the various Neville's. Garth's solo on Resurrection. Lots of great moments in lots of great songs.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines
Web: My link

Subject: Jayhawks online

For those who want to hear more about the Jayhawks -- The group was featured on National Public Radio last Sunday morning, where they were interviewed by host Liane Hanson & performed live in the NPR studio. Click on above link to access the interview & listen to 7 full-length songs that were performed. Additional information about the group is also included.


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Storyville

While listening to Storyville last night I was once again struck by Rick's beautiful harmonizing on "Hold Back The Dawn". Such a soulful voice.

The other tune that always hits me is "Breakin' The Rules". I think Robbie's vocal performance fits the tune wonderfully and Paul Buchanan takes the song to another level. The instrumentation sets the tone in unique fashion. The sentiment of that song amazes me each and every time I hear it. Thanks To Robbie for those and many other wonderful tunes.

Just thinking aloud.

Peace


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Posted by:

Helena R.

Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Ray Pence: Thanks again! Isn´t internet fantastic? And of course I think Sweden/Scandinavia is worth a visit. Many people here are big music-lovers. We go to a lot of concerts, buy a lot of records, we have the top-record of record-buying i the world (or did have). I´ve read about various artists that like to perform here since the Swedish audience is devoted and the fans are very loyal. It would be fun to do some research on the Band´s (and the members) touring to Scandinavia. If I only had the time. (maybe someone already did that???) Take care//Helena


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Posted by:

Rollie

Web: My link

Subject: Slide guitar for BEG

Roy Rogers,John Mooney, Tony Furtado, Kelly Jo Phelps,Jerry Douglas.........p.s. Bush knew


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Caution: Arkansaw Joke Ahead (Stop me if you've heard this one)

There was these two guys from Arkansas see. They was out huntin' in the woods one day, and one of these guys falls to the ground, stops breathin' and his eyes roll back in his head. The other guy panics and quickly whips out his cell-phone to dial 911.

Guy: Operator! I think my friend is dead! I don't think he's breathin' and his eyes are rollin' back in his head! What should I do?

Operator: Calm down. First we have to make sure your friend is actually dead

There's a long pause on the phone and then a loud bang is heard.

Guy: Okay Now What ?


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Posted by:

drewdiddy

Web: My link

What's up y'all? Just gotta let everybody know about a new blazin' hip-hop artist -Promise D'Apostle- www.mp3.com/promise_d_apostle www.dfsrecords.com He begins his North American tour May 20/03!!!!! Also, he will be performing and presenting at the vibes awards May 24/03!!! His multi-award winning album "The Promise That Heaven Kept" is available now! God Bless!!


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

John D = you said you were going to interview Garth - will it be on your radio show?


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: The edge of nowhere

Subject: Dirty little shows in the middle of nowhere

Last Sat. nite I went to an obscure little bar in the Catskills. There were only nineteen people in the crowd. The band on this night had never played together before, some of them had never met. The only Band connection was Roscoe Millette put down his bass and played a fantastic guitar, he played like Jimmy Eppard...maybe better (no offense, Jim). They had a real good bass player already. The only other Band connection was their harp player was Sredni Volmer, who used to play in a duo with Rick Danko.

I will never forget Sredni's "Born In Chicago"....it was one of those magical performances you sometimes see when you least expect it. His voice was strong and he played his harp better than I've ever seen him play before. The rest of the show was good, but Sredni's opening song was.....unbelievable.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Secret Language of Birds

Fred, funny you mentioned Ian's album from 3 years ago. I highly recommend it and hadn't listenend to it for a few months until today, ironically.


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Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Birds of a feather...

About pigeons: everyday, perched on the power line across from our balcony sit two pigeons. Same spot. Everyday for the past 6 years (that's when we moved into this apartment). I've come to believe that they are actually two Japanese police officers, disguised as pigeons, spying on me!

I've heard it said (a few times, too) that if a pigeon shits on you that is supposed to bring good luck...good luck for who??!?! The dry cleaners?!?!!?

On a more musical note....I downloaded (at emusic) some mp3s from Chuck Leavell's Forever Blue, his take on Ashokan Forever is superb (just as hauntingly melancholy as the version in the PBS Civil War series).

I wonder what a Chuck Leavell & garth Hudson collaboration would sound like?

JTull: you know why you've become the "birdman", it all has to do with them knowing you have that Ian Anderson's solo effort about birds(you do, don't you?)


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Posted by:

franko

Location: boston

That was quick. Thanks, Gene.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

I concur with David Powell's Jayhawks assesment as being the best of the recently mentioned groups to be the most Band like.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: biographers & pigeon pie

Bones – right, if I were Robbie I wouldn’t be commissioning someone who’d been critical of the person (driving around in a black BMW – so what?) or the solo music to do the remasters sleeve notes. But in many ways this is good for Hoskyns as he should be trying NOT to become an “insider” as he’s the author of one of the two major books on The Band because you can’t write about the music as a serious critic / observer after sharing meals and getting friendly with the subject matter. I just hope he takes a serious look at the 90s output and the solo albums, though if he reads Jim and Randy he won’t be kind to High on The Hog.

Got to get one of these falcons – we’re beleagured (Sp?) with pigeons who sit and shit down the chimney, and worse start clucking at 5 a.m. amplified by the chimney. Flying rats, in reality. In heavily-infested central Bournemouth I’ve twice been aerially shat upon from a great height within a year. Ruined my best hat. Thank goodness I was wearing it. Actually I saw someone offering falconry services to the pigeon-challenged world. My fear is they’d take other birds too, and I value the others! The best pigeon story was about 12 years ago. Restaurants all over London started offering fresh pigeon pie. Then someone noticed that the pigeon-deep Trafalgar Square was getting noticeably thinner on pigeons. Then the newspapers investigated and found one guy netting them in their hundreds for sale early in the morning. They were so tame they waddled into the nets willingly. It turned out there was no law against it. I wouldn’t eat one if you paid me, but it was a popular dish for a couple of weeks.


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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Web: My link

Subject: Richard Thompson article

Click the link for a new CNN article about Richard Thompson.


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Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Subject: Jayhawks harmonies

Hey David, just an additional comment to your noting that to you the fact that the Jayhawks have nailed down the harmonies a lot better than a lot of the bands they get grouped together with, and in that respect they best reflect their being influenced by the Band. I am not saying that that is not a possible influence. I definitely agree with you that they have nailed down the harmonies. And I am not a Jayhawks connoisseur by any means. But whenever i hear them on the radio I generally celebrate the fact that it is a hell of a lot better than the schlock that usually makes me switch stations or throw in a cd, or most frequently use the external silence to reflect or write a song whilst driving. So i can say I am pro JAyhawks. To me their harmonies always brought to mind a Poco or Buffalo Springfield influence. Someone in the band, maybe more than one, suggests a slight hint of a Richie Furay sound. Just a hint mind you. Richie's is a voice in the same category as Rick's, Richard's, Gram's, Levon's,Neil Young's, Bob Dylan's and Gene Clark's: hitting notes and emotional intonations with a uniqueness of sound that we just don't get treated to enough. But then again, that is what makes these voices so special.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Lucinda Williams

Lucinda Williams is doing some shows with Neil Young this summer and I think that she and old Neil have a lot in common. Her new CD did take me a few listens to appreciate, but I drove with it again today and thought of the edge and variety of the best of Neil Young several times. The song that grabs and won't let go most at this point is "Righteously," and I was sort of put off by that one when I saw her play it live on TV a few weeks ago. Some of the songs strike me as adventurous almost to the degree that Dylan's "Blonde on Blonde" was in 1966, while others seem like formulaic strolls through her familiar turf. It's still better than 90% of the new music being produced in 2003, though...


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Jayhawks

Following up on the posts from Bones & Roger -- Founding member Mark Olson left the Jayhawks in late 1995 to spend more time & work on projects with his wife, singer/songwriter Victoria Williams. His last album with the group was "Tomorrow The Green Grass", which along with "Blue Earth" and "Hollywood Town Hall" are essential recordings from the Olson/Louris/Perlman lineup. They also backed up Joe Henry on his fine "Short Man's Room" album.

Although the Jayhawks often get grouped together with the "no-depression/alt. country" genre that includes Uncle Tupelo and the suceeding Wilco/Son Volt groups, it's the Jayhawks who have nailed down the harmony vocals best. It's in that respect that they best reflect the influence of The Band, in my opinion.


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Posted by:

Gene

Web: My link

Subject: another version

...for more, search under: 'thunder road harp tab' & find one you like.


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Posted by:

Gene

Web: My link

Subject: Thunder Road - Harp Tab

Thunder Road - hit link - 2nd from bottom


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Posted by:

Roger

Subject: Bones - Jayhawks

Hollywood Town Hall is very different to the latest album and I wouldn't suggest one before the other. The earlier stuff had Mark Olson and Gary Louris singing tight harmony and unison stuff and was very fine. When Mark Olson left the sound changed but 'Sound of Lies' is wonderful. Desert Island choices for me would be Hollywood Town Hall, Sound of Lies and the latest. (But the rest is close behind).


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Posted by:

franko

Location: boston

Subject: lucinda - hiatt/springsteen harmonica

I have been avoiding the latest from Lucinda because I was so disappointed with Essence. A few very good songs, but on the whole very lifeless and uninteresting to me. On the flip side, I can't wait to get John Hiatt's new one. Peter and Roger, if you don't already have Lucinda's self-titled CD w/bonus tracks (I assume DP already has it), it is the essence (sorry) of LW to me. Honest, fun, a little rough around the edges, and great guitar from Gurf Morlix.

Any harmonica players out there? I'm trying to teach my daughter how to play the opening riff from Thunder Road for a school project (pretty good school) and I am struggling. If anyone can help, my email is fjdpele at aol. Thanks


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Super Pigeons

John W.: Bummer! I'm starting to feel like the characters in ALfred Hitchcock's The Birds. My wife keeps hanging wreaths on our front door, and 3 weeks ago I found a robbins nest with three eggs. I fought with her to leave it there, and we had three little robbins on our front door for two weeks, meaning we could not enjoy the use of our front door or porch(not wanting to disturb the little guys, or worse yet, open the door and have them fly inside, with our two cats, who were quite embarrassed when the neighborhood cats ragged on them for permitted BIRDS to plant a nest on our door!)Well, they finally flew away for good last Sunday. Unfortunately, before we could clean up the aftermath I discovered a new nest, which now has a single robbins egg that was hatched over night. So of course, my wife and I fought about it anew, but she wanted a wreath, and didn;t want a storm door...well, I hope y'all like birdshit better than politics!


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Posted by:

Bones

I've been told that I should purchase The Jayhawks' Hollywood Town Hall before I get the new one. Is that true? The person told me that fans of the Band would love that record.

I don't blame Robbie for not wanting to use Hoskyns' sleeve notes for the remasters. Hoskyns has been openly critical of all Band members for not helping him with his book. As Peter pointed out, Barney refers to Robbie as a vain control freak, and he thinks the other Band members behave too much like "rock stars". Why have this guy write the sleeve notes just because he wrote a book about the Band?


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Posted by:

David Powell

Web: My link

Subject: Chuck Leavell

John D: Chuck Leavell is a great musician, gentleman & conservationist (see above link). Prior to joining the Allman Bros. in late 1972, he had briefly played in Dr. John's band. He was of course a member of the ABB when they played at Watkins Glen with The Band & the Dead in the summer of 1973. In addition to his recent work with the Stones, he has also worked with Eric Clapton. Check out his stellar keyboard solos on Mr. Clapton's "Unplugged", especially the DVD video version.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Georgia On My Mind

Mr. Powell. I know your always a few steps ahead of me on these things; but I just finally bought Chuck Leavell: forever blue...... solo piano. It's everything I hoped it would be. His rendition of Jay Unger's Ashokan Farewell from Ken Burns documentary is wonderful. Equally great and something I never tire of "Georgia On My Mind. It's just solo piano and that's the way I like it. Pure and clean.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: BEG SLLLLLLLLLLIDE

BEG.....if you haven't already checked it out and you love slide....... try Roy Rogers CD of "Slideways." I think you'll really like it!


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Posted by:

John W.

J. Tull - Those falcons can cause more trouble than you know. They started nesting them here in New York at the top of some tall buildings. Their favorite prey is pigeons. The problem is, they picked off all the sick and weak pigeons, which meant only the best survived, which led to the development of a kind of "super pigeon" which are now stronger than ever in spreading germs and disease and pooping all over the place!


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Posted by:

Bob Findlay

Location: Tasmania

Subject: re Rick Danko

Rick Dankos vocals are the most passionate and soulful I have ever heard. His bass playing is 'unique' in it's method and worked beautifully in all of his musical works. A tragic loss to to the music world, but he has left us SO much.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Fred: "Dark Moon, High Tide" by Afro-Celt Sound System is on "Gangs Of New York" Soundtrack....so is Linda Thompson's "Paddy's Lamentation". Also check out their song with Sinead O'Connor....."Release It".....

Rollie: You should record "Paint My Mailbox Blue"....I liked your singing and of course I'm a sucker for sliiiiide....

Empty Now: Thanks for the email.....Now I understand....And yes....Reggae (Rebel Music) is still living because it is the voice of many peoples of the world.....:-D


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond
Web: My link

Subject: Cool story for you environmentalists

The link above is from my wife's company. They have a rare nesting falcon (very endangered)in their office buildng. Live photos + check out the 'archived falcon pictures' photo link on the right.


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: The Jayhawks & Lucinda

The new Jayhawks album, "Rainy Day Music", provides the perfect soundtrack for the Spring & those upcoming days of Summer. I've also been listening to my LP copy of their second album, "Blue Earth" (1989); another great effort. I understand that this has just been re-issued on CD with 3 bonus cuts.

The new Lucinda Williams album grows on me with each time I listen. Ms. Williams is not afraid to go to the heart of emotional matters, and she puts it all out there as she confronts the issues. There's a sense of raw power in her music that seems to be missing from that of many of her contemporaries. When I listen to her, I think of that old Randy Newman song:

"Lucinda, Lucinda, Lucinda -- we've got to run away
That big white truck is closin' in
And we'll get wounded if we stay..."


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Posted by:

Fred

Ben Pike: Thanks. Yeah, in the movie the grandmother does seem to be quite content in making that final journey up the mountain. But I doubt that, in reality, not everyone who was forced up there was too happy about being left alone to wither away and die. Again instances of this usually happened in very rural areas, that had little or no interaction with urban centers.

I should have noted that this was done in the past (in some rural villages up into the late19th and even early 20th century) lest anyone get the idea that across Japan in, this, the 21st century people are still dumping their elders on top of mountains!


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Posted by:

Chris Pyle

Location: why baltimore, of course..hon

Subject: Levon in Baltimore tonight

Woohhhooo....Levon Helm and the Barnburners for FREE at the Baltimore Blues Festival in Patterson Park tonight!!!!!! go to www.baltimorebluesfestival.com for more information. HOPE FOLKS WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND ....


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Posted by:

Rollie

Web: My link

Subject: The Last Waltz

Many years ago, I attended the Last Waltz. I enjoyed it very much! Thank you ...........


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: John D.

I know you are looking forward to Garth's shows in Toronto. I can only imagine what it must be like to witness the musically theatrical experience of Garth Hudson. Thank you for sharing the info about the Burrito Deluxe shows in Nashville. A few members of my family attended the first show. They all agreed that the music was outstanding and Garth phenomenal. I am really excited to hear that Garth will continue his involvement with Burrito Deluxe. I have been listening to The Flying Burrito Brothers constantly. I bet Gram Parsons is out there somewhere feeling so proud. Will we be able to tune in to your interview with Garth via the Internet?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Hoskyns

Looking forward to an updated edition, but not for $25.00! Looks like a perfect book to sip coffee to at the Barnes & Noble coffee bar!


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Posted by:

Kerry Schaffner

Location: Baltimore
Web: My link

Subject: Levon

I am going to meet Levon tonight (or at least see him play)!!!!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth & Maud Come To Toronto Soon...........

Spoke with Maud Hudson into the early hours this morning. They just got back from Nashville and had a great time there! Looks like Burrito Deluxe will stay a part of Garth's many musical lives; which he is really enjoying. As we spoke I could hear Garth playing in the background. This man has an endless love affair with his keyboards, woodwinds and brass. I'm interviewing Garth tomorrow morning and I'm told that.......YES he is in fact singing more during his solo shows +1. Garth is stretching out his vocal instrument.

As the promotor says:

The musical innovator of The Band
The Supreme Rock ‘n’ Roll Keyboard Player Of All Time.
GARTH HUDSON, Solo Piano etc.
Tuesday-Sunday, May 20-25
@ TOP O’ THE Senator
$20/25 RESERVATIONS @ THE Senator 416-364-7517


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Posted by:

Karl Wallendszus

Location: Oxford, UK

Subject: Hoskyns' book

Peter, you're right, you did read it here first. (See the archives for 22 November last year.) When a few of us met Hoskyns at a screening of TLW in London, he mentioned that the revised version was in the pipeline. He acknowledged that there are mistakes in the first edition, but said he didn't have time to do a full revision. He certainly mentioned his interview with Levon as the basis for some new material, but I'm not sure how different the new edition will be apart from that. Like you, I hope there's more to it than that.


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Posted by:

Roger

Subject: Lucinda

Getting there with the new Lucinda, Peter. I'm too busy at this time of year for anything much but I had planned to see her in London this week and I had to cancel.

I'm listening to the Jayhawks new CD continually in the car. I'm in line with David Powell's review. It's a joy to listen to. I've seen the Jayhawks twice live - both terrific shows. The Gourds, Richard Thompson and Jackson Brown are regularly spun too. I always have a Band CD as the 6th disc in the cartridge changer. Currently Stagefright. All La Glory was a lullaby I used to sing to my (now 30 year old) daughter. Even the weaker tracks - Time To Kill / Just Another W.S. are giving me great pleasure.

Barney Hoskyns is certainly working on a 2nd edition. he said so at the Last Waltz event at the Everyman in November.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

There are several well known Japanese film versions of that story( it is part of the past, it should be noted) and in it, the woman is very excited and hopefull about going up to the mountain, and only wants to set things stright with her family before making the trip(she walks up there herself).


Entered at Thu May 8 13:17:20 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Just in case....

Just in case any of you were wondering what the reference to Narayama was all about several posts back:

It's part of the title of a Japanese movie, the English title of a Japanese movie, that is. The film is about a rather deplorable and very common practice of bringing old people,more often than not old women (those who have reached the age of 70) up a mountain and leaving them there to die, as many villages considered these seniors to have outlived their purposefulness and were thus a burden upon the villages

I believe the the Japanese title of the movie is Ubaasute yama..."ubaa" is one way to say "grandma" (not the proper way, though), "sute" is the verb "to throw away" and "yama" means mountain.

From what my wife tells me, in the part of Japan we live in nothing like this occurred as many old women were considered to be the equivalent of the North American Natives' "medicine men" (I think the term I maybe thinking of is shaman)


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Posted by:

Osmo Kiema

Location: Finland
Web: My link

I've enjoyed the film and soundtrack all the years thru but some questions puzzle me: how did the band relate to neil diamond guy and ringo starr. Was it obligatory to have artists from certain genres and "giants"?


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Lucinda Williams

Anyone else into "World Without Tears"? It took me quite a bit longer to get into than Car Wheels or Essence. In fact the first twice through I didn't think much of it and left it for 10 days or so. Then I put it back on and now it's on constant replay and it's really crept into my head, I think it might be the best of the three. It's a definite grower. (Just in case anyone else was disappointed at first, persevere.)


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Posted by:

Chris

Location: Tasmania

Subject: Hoskyns

Across The Great Divide is to be rereleased 3rd June Uk by Pimlico (Random House) 12 pounds 50


Entered at Thu May 8 06:26:57 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

The Afro-Celt Sound System....never heard of them, but the name sounds intriguing! I keep conjuring up a bagpiper playing african influenced music! Or a Scottish blues band! I have a feeling I am way off base, aren't I? Anyone care to enlighten me as to what they do, that they do so well?


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Posted by:

carolyn hines

Location: kamloops bc

Subject: peyote healing songs

interested in any other songs of peyote healing you may be doing


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Five Day Blues Fest In Toronto...July 23-27

20.00 plus GST/Day except for Thursday July 24 when Sheryl Crow plays for 25.00...
Five Day Festival Pass Costs 55.00
Small Number of "Gold Circle" reserved Seats will be available at premium prices

Artists Confirmed So Far....

Sheryl Crow
George Clinton and The P-Funk All-Stars
Robert Cray ("Pardon" and "I Wonder" are my all time faves)
George Thorogood And The Destroyers
John Hiatt And The Goners
Bela Fleck And The Flecktones
The Blind Boys Of Alabama (sang on Louuu's "Raven")
Walter "Wolfman" Washington
Big Bill Morganfield
David Lindley
Richard Thompson And Peter Green Splinter Group
The Afro-Celt Sound System
Canada's Colin James
Canada's Jack DeKeyzer

Marley recordings found by Bob's eldest son David "Ziggy" Marley.....Apparently he'd like to have someone like Carlos Santana.....who is known to appreciate and revere Bob to contribute to possible "new" release.....Although I'm more of a fan of Santana's early work with Gregg Rolie and Mike Shrieve....Carlos continues to play with a huge heart.....check out older songs "Europa", "Samba Pati", "Salvador".....Also when I think of younger artists who also have been turned on by Marley I think of the lead singer of Bush (British group)....Gavin Rossdale who listens a lot to Marley....Btw....Their first recording is excellent....."Glycerine" is timeless...

Empty Now: ??????????


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Posted by:

Lil

Bayou Sam: Thanks for sharing that cute Luke/Jake story. I came here just now feeling sad, as I just got off the phone with one of my best friends in the whole world (who I've known since I was 13) and he told me he's moving away. Things are changing so fast these days. It's nice to come here and find a smile.


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Posted by:

Serge

Subject: Viney/Hoskyns

Viney...Thanks!


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Posted by:

Sheila

Location: Fayetteville, AR

Subject: 10-4 Bayou Sam! We hear you loud -n- clear!

How cute! Luke and Jake! Your description made me smile.

And, put that cb back in your truck and do some modulating Man! Put that channel dial on 14 and listen for the skip out of NW Arkansas. That's where I am. I'd listen for you and be proud to rap with you anytime. And you met your wife on the two-way! HOW NEAT!! My husband and I both modulate everyday. (We're studying for our ham radio license.) Seriously though, if you ever want a radio check from NW AR, it's channel 14 and I go by Redneck Girl and my husband is Slowpoke. Give us a shout anytime.


Entered at Wed May 7 23:42:32 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Woodlark: You are correct, sir! It IS Anonima!! Old age is creeeping in too rapidly!

Gene: It's Romeo, not RomeRo (as in Romeo & Juliet, not that there's a connection between the car and Shakespeare's star crossed lovers).

Again thanks for the Hogtown info!


Entered at Wed May 7 23:37:15 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-139.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.139)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: more on new editions

Trying to recall where I saw news of a new Hoskyns edition – I thought it was here. There are some interesting factors. Since the last edition, he’s had a major spat with Robbie over the rejected Remasters sleeve notes (who he then called a vain control freak) and has managed to interview Levon, who either didn’t make the connection or who had forgiven all. So his objectivity is probably compromised. We can also hope that the photo credits get corrected at last too. Being in the middle of photo research for a textbook, I can understand the problem. You go through a research agency. You say you want this picture and give them a newspaper cutting, or you say ‘I want a picture of that incident.’ They go away, come back and give you a series of choices. They arrange to pay the copyright holder, they compile the photo credits and actually the author has no input on that side of things beyond looking at a print or more often a screen and saying, ‘Yes, we’ll use that one.’ So if someone has deceived the agency or falsely claimed rights, it’s down to the agency to check it. Whatever, I hope – genuinely – that they get the credits right next time. Hopefully it will be a better job than the measly couple of pages added to Levon’s second edition.


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Posted by:

Cousin Paul

Location: Niagara Falls Canada

Subject: Tell Me

Levon Helm,Jimmy V,no Conan. Jimmy Wieder,Sid M,no Dave. Just wondering, Paul


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Brien

I am in total agreement with you. I am done here. Good luck to all you people, enjoy the music but don't take things so serious, life is to short and the ride to nice.


Entered at Wed May 7 23:02:46 CEST 2003 from powellgoldsteinfraziermurphy.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.3.234)

Posted by:

David Powell

Location: Hot 'Lanta, Ga.

Subject: White Line Fever

Bayou Sam: I remember "Movin' On"; a great television series. Merle Haggard wrote & performed the theme song didn't he?

Former Lost Planet Airman Bill Kirchen performs a lot of modern day odes to the road. One in particular, "Truck Stop At The End Of The World", is a trucker's view of the apocalypse as he navigates down the highways amid the devastation following World War III.


Entered at Wed May 7 22:58:34 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Investigations

I for one am glad there isn't a 'litany' of investigations going on. History has shown them to be a waste of time, draining and counter productive to the growth of the country. STOP before you yell Nixon..,please. Probably the most affected administration was Clinton's. Smart guy, vision, passionate and nearly crippled because of some the most stupid issues to investigate. I never really liked the guy because he just came off seedy but you have to take your hat off to the guy for giving it all amidst a circus of stupidity. I'm always amazed he was able to achieve anything with all the BS he put with. If Congress (both sides) spent half the energy they put into special investigations into ideas for the betterment of our country and or the world, could you imagine the possiblities. Listen, if someone can find absolute credible dirt, then give it its justice but speculation, rumor, sliding information to fit imaginary puzzles is such a waste of time.


Entered at Wed May 7 22:58:03 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-139.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.139)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Hoskyns

I thought a new edition had already been announced and was due later this year.


Entered at Wed May 7 22:33:26 CEST 2003 from h-68-164-6-32.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.164.6.32)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Bones, I was thinking that the book could use an updated second edition along the lines of Levon's book. If sales allowed Levon to update his book, I would assume Hyperion wouldn't consider a Hoskyns update overly risky.


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: breaker 1-9 for anyone in the GB - you got your ears on?

Pat Brennan - that last point you made is something I've thought about, and posted about also. I get the feeling too that stuff may come to light someday, and it will turn out that RR will be proven to have been a class guy all along - and that maybe he had good reason to have wanted to move on when he did. We will have to wait for a RR book. I can't help thinking that RR would like to write his story, but he dosen't want to hurt anyone, contrary to what some folks think of him. That's just my feeling.

I was photographing little kindergarten kids at a school today, and a kid came up named Luke. So I naturally said "hey, it's just 'ol Luke". Then, amazingly, the next kid was named Jake - so as he came to the stool that he has to sit on I said "Get up Jake".....The GB was the only place I could share this ridiculous story and have people appreciate it.

I got a kick out of seeing CB radio mentioned in here. The CB went through a huge craze here in the '70s. We had the movie "Smokey and the Bandit" - which had Jerry Redd's great song, "East Bound and Down". And there was the huge one-hit-wonder "Covoy", by C.W. McCall. I actually met my wife on the CB. I still have a couple of radios and I've been meaning to put one in my truck to see if anyone's still on it. The truckers still use them on the highway.... Anyone remember the TV show "Moving On" with Claude Akins, and Frank Converse?


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Posted by:

christina

Location: wiltshire

Subject: abba

they are the best


Entered at Wed May 7 21:48:43 CEST 2003 from cic-sn-oprx-pxy2.wachovia.com (169.200.173.36)

Posted by:

Bones

Pat Brennan: I think that Hoskyns is so bitter about members of the Band that he would not write a follow-up, but I could be wrong. If he did, it would probably be very critical of everyone. At least Levon was only bitter about one member, Barney does not seem to like anyone in the Band (although how could anyone have a problem with Rick and Garth). I would like to read a Band biography by someone who actually likes all members of the Band.


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Pehr

I understand exactly what your saying. Why has there not been investigations into Bushes wrong doing? They brought Nixon down, right? Why can't they get Bush? I disagree about Kennedy being investigated, covered up maybe, investigated? At best guilty of criminally negligent homocide. Punishment? none that I know of. My only point to any of this is there are two sides to everything and some people don't want to see that, thats what I don't get. There are political blue bloods running this country, both left and right, I don't much like any of them. I don't think Tipper Gore has any right to tell me what I can't and can listen to. As much as when Pompous blow hards like Bill Bennett tells Pat Brennen that smoking his weed brings down America. Did I make myself clear to you guys?


Entered at Wed May 7 20:35:49 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Jtull

re-read the first email i sent you, sure i prefer the GB than the Narayama mountain (Fred must understand)


Entered at Wed May 7 20:23:17 CEST 2003 from pub25.lrc.swt.edu (147.26.108.139)

Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: pete t (not Townshend)

Pete T. the point i'd like to make is the difference you dont seem to accept; Bush has not been investigated for any of the litany of the things I cited, while Bill C and Teddy K most certainly have, whatever the outcome. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If you dont agree with that, Ok, i dont want to squabble. Pat B's follow up was eloquent.


Entered at Wed May 7 20:19:45 CEST 2003 from (216.88.34.18)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Empty Now, I hope you're not leaving the GB

Hope I didn't interpret your last post to say that you are leaving. Please stay. I enjoy the perspectives you bring.


Entered at Wed May 7 19:49:10 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: After understanding the posts

Lil : It should be more true, interpreting my thoughts in your post to replace....“getting to know people's souls”....by......“getting to enjoy people's souls”

BEG (The Solid Gold of the GB, that’s not hypocrisy)...... cause i havn’t your email address.

After rereading, and what i prentend understanding in your message, I dont explain a tenth of your recent contempt against me. It’s surely due to some blunder from my part, or some language barrier (thanks Jtull). I don’t ever have your intellectual level to sustain a verbial-struggle via top-level poems. A very clever friend of mine told me once “You will always be victim of your perception acuity” that’s true, and more true again for most of the posters in the GB. Let me just imiting one quote of Caligula, the half-mad Cesar (and so am i), in the eponymous Camus novel: “Only I have the power to decide on the norms of trahison”. Be sure of one thing: i never interrupted one second my respect, my admiration, and all that kind of sincere and noble feelings toward you......Be sure on one thing, i’m really not someone worthy of your two splendid posts.... Be sure on one thing: my decison of leaving the GB (against my voluntee) is not related at all with that stuff.......Be sure, this is not for guilting someone who is high-above the meanness of the common folk.

For the GB correctness, i stop here...........be free to email me at:
now dot empty at caramail dot com
......for any possible precision for lifting the misunderstanding......be free to not email me at all

The same message is for anyone who recognized himself in my post below. I started the hostility

That was the main result of my obligation of presence, following some email calls....never again please....


Entered at Wed May 7 19:49:07 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.26)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Web: My link

Subject: Pete

Thanks for the post JTullfan. I am glad to read the news concerning Pete Townshend. I'm sure all the mud slinging tabloids will be just as quick to retract as they were to react.

The link above will take you to Townshend's site and his statement.

Just an aside. Anyone who hasn't taken the opportunity to check out Townshend's work away from The Who should do so. He is a truly gifted songwriter, guitarist and singer. Having seen his "solo" show on three different occasions I wouldn't miss the opportunity for a fourth. The live versions of "Let's See Action" and his cover of "Barefootin'" are worth the price of admission.


Entered at Wed May 7 19:09:47 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-139.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.139)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Songbook series

Todd: I just followed the link to their website- but it just brings you to the Virgin / Real World website- no mention of the 1999 series on there. The best thing about the series was the well-designed artifact with notes etc, and most of the content could be recreated (Thompson also chooses Warren Zevon's Hula-Hula Boys, Allman's Melissa, American Pie …), but probably not all, including Ballad of Thunder Road. (My e-mail address is on any of the articles …)

Ben Pike - I saw both "Kaleidescope" and a new double CD Marmalade restrospective "Reflections" today while looking in the M section for Zoot Money. They were previously known as Dean Ford & The Gaylords (which had a different meaning in 1964), and the double CD takes them through from 1964 right through the 70s.


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Posted by:

Woodlark

Location: Nordic Countries

Subject: ALFA

FRED - It should be Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili. No big deal...


Entered at Wed May 7 17:51:20 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Pete Townshend

For those interested charges against Pete Townshend have been dropped on the child-porno thing. He will, however, be listed as a 'sex offender' on the UK national registery.


Entered at Wed May 7 17:36:43 CEST 2003 from sttn-sh10-port202.snet.net (204.60.207.202)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Hunter S. Thompson / Vegas

Raoul Duke after losing at the roulette wheel:
"No...no...calm down..learn to enjoy losing."

My one-time experience in Vegas is winning $250.00 at the slot machines. You're not ahead untill you're on the plane going home with the money in your pocket.

It's nice to see Hunter Thompson mentioned in here. I read somewhere that his goal as a writer, was to use the English language as a musical instrument. Early in his career, he would type "The Great Gatsby" word for word just to get the feel of the rhythm of the words. Much like many musicians play note for note works of their heroes in order to learn before going on to find their own style.

I'm sorry to hear that the Writer's Songbook Compilation series is no more. I've been trying to find the HST's "Where Were You When the Fun Stopped?" for quite a while. I went to a Hunter S. Thompson booksigning in NYC this past February, and they had the CD playing in the background. It was very cool to meet him. I got my book signed, shook his hand, and have no idea what he said to me. It had something to do with "drunken assholes"


Entered at Wed May 7 17:34:35 CEST 2003 from h-68-164-6-32.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.164.6.32)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

For some reason, I recently re-read Hoskyns' book on the Band. A couple of observations:

Libby Titus was one angry woman.

The book could use an update, especially regarding 91-96.

Hoskyns could use info on this site to clarify a great many foggy areas.

I wonder if the three principals might be more willing to talk now that so much water has flowed under the bridge.

The reissues, Garth's solo stuff, and the LW re-release need coverage.

It seems obvious that the whole songwriting argument is a cover for something else.


Entered at Wed May 7 17:24:01 CEST 2003 from powellgoldsteinfraziermurphy.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.3.234)

Posted by:

David Powell

Location: Thunder Road, Ga.

Subject: Robert Mitchum

Robert Mitchum was the real deal, the genuine Cool Hand Luke. His 1949 pot bust was not his first brush with the law. As a teenager, he bummed around the country and was arrested for vagrancy at age 14 in Georgia. He was sentenced to serve on a chain gang and later escaped!

There is a Band connection through Martin Scorsese -- Mr. Mitchum played Max Cady in the original 1962 version of "Cape Fear", a role later reprised by Robert DeNiro in Mr. Scorsese's 1991 re-make. Robert Mitchum, along with two other co-stars from the original version, Gregory Peck and Martin Balsam, appeared in cameo roles in Mr. Scorsese's modern version.

On a personal note -- I had a chance to meet Nick Nolte at a courthouse in Atlanta when he was researching his role as attorney Sam Bowden for the Scorsese film. When I first saw Mr. Nolte's recent police mug shot, I once again thought perhaps he was doing "research" for an upcoming role, or maybe he was trying hard, but not quite succeeding, to be more like Robert Mitchum.

"I'm not sure that Robert Mitchum would have become a star had he been born at an earlier time. His world-weary reserve and sad-eyed nonchalance were so much of a product of his era, they would have made little sense in the '20s or '30s. Even Humphrey Bogart, who originated the depiction of disenchantment in American movies, had hope. For Mitchum, hope was never even a possibility."
--Martin Scorsese


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Posted by:

Dave tpg

Subject: all these bands on the same day/same concert

Buddy Guy

Delbert McClinton

Dr.John

Tommy Castro Band

Shemekia Copeland(daughter of Johnny)

Teresa James

Doheney Blues Festival May 18th.

This is a great line-up for a single day.I'm being treated by friends and family for some so-called significant birthday.Tickets are 35 bucks.A little pricey,but what a line-up!

The only thing missing is the true show-stoppers(ringers)that could really close out a concert like this.

The Barn-Burnin'Levon Helm Best Damn Blues Band On Wheels Road Show!


Entered at Wed May 7 17:00:28 CEST 2003 from m124-130.on.tac.net (209.202.124.130)

Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

PatB: Well done!!

Fred: As you now know, Hogtown applies to the whole city. But I've never accepted the theory that Hogtown refers to the abattoirs; rather, I accept the theory that it refers to the widespread perception elsewhere in Canada that we hog all the country's wealth and/or live High On The Hog (note Band conection) in contrast to the peasants elsewhere.

BEG: Was Rob's classmate named Keith?


Entered at Wed May 7 16:34:26 CEST 2003 from a114.dial.pgtc.com (69.4.195.114)

Posted by:

Sheila

Location: Arkansas

10-4 on the phonetic alphabet, Gene. I'm studying to get my technician's ham radio license, so it's definately familiar! Just when I thought I'd seen everything discussed on this board, in jumps a snippet about transmitting on a two way. I love the diversity of the thoughts shared here.


Entered at Wed May 7 16:17:20 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Lil: You're the other only one

BEG: as usual, you beat me at the arrival, too hard to me to understand. Does it mean that "the same person" can no more rely on you for a The Band related information ?

Fred: Who is the J^panesse of them all?


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: Alfa Romeo

After a web search of both "Alfa Romeo" and "Alfa Romero", I'm not sure which it is...I thought it was "Alfa Romero" but maybe I'm wrong.


Entered at Wed May 7 15:56:53 CEST 2003 from dialin-1235-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.5.219)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: phonetic alphabets

Phonetic alphabets are used by: Military, Air Traffic Controllers, Ham Radio, Cops (sometimes, or they have their own, ie "one-adam-twelve"), banks (wire transfer authorization codes.


Entered at Wed May 7 15:44:21 CEST 2003 from dialin-1235-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.5.219)

Posted by:

Gene

Web: My link

Dang! I forgot Lima.

Hit the link for older phonetic alphabets.


Entered at Wed May 7 15:36:25 CEST 2003 from dialin-1235-tnt.nyc.bestweb.net (216.179.5.219)

Posted by:

Gene

Subject: alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot golf hotel india juliet kilo mike november oscar papa quebec romeo sierra tango uniform victor whiskey xray yankee zulu

sorry, it's 'ROMERO' not 'romeo' in Alfa Romero


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Pat

Pat, I was not directing my comments at you in any way shape or form. I agree with you about Bennett, Jackass of the first degree. I don't see where my post defended him, I was pointing out that hypocrisy works both ways, hence the Ted Kennedy reference. There are those here that only see one way, their way, you know who you are. When i said "Took over the world" I did not say that I think thats a good Idea or anything, just what I see as the truth. Ben, you only prove yourself a fool, blinded by your pink light......


Entered at Wed May 7 15:04:15 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Hogtown, Alfas & only the Shadow knows..

John D: thanks for the info about Hogtown (a good Oscar Peterson tune, too...Hogtown Blues, that is)

Empty: the "alpha" in Alfa Romeo is "ALFA" and it stands for Associazione Lombarda Fabbriche Automobili. I liked your post about being from "the radio generation". Me? I'm from the TV generation, but I like listening to internet radio...Recently I 've been listening to those radio dramas & commedies from the 1940s & 1950s ...not because what's on is better than what's on TV (well, sometimes that's true, though) but without the "moving pictures" you're forced to really concentrate on what's being said!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Robbie in Rolling Stone 1971 on Dylan....

Howard Gladstone: Bob has always been a puzzle to a lot of people. I never knew whether it was just myself reading into his albums, or whether he was really going through all the things I was going through. You know what I mean?

Robbie: Right. That don't matter. You really shouldn't be concerned, you should just be concerned with the outcome of things. Whether he cares about love at all, whether he thinks he's putting the world on, doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter what he thinks. It's what you think. It's what you get out of it. It wasn't meant to be any more than whatever you see.

Gladstone: Well, is there really any such thing as a put-on? Who are you putting on? The world or yourself? Do you know how Bob feels about that?

Robbie: I don't know. We don't talk at that level......

Dylan's "Idiot Wind" means to me that for every person we feel betrayed us...The same person feels the same way.....But then as Marley would say...."When one door is closed....Another will open"......In other words stop wasting time thinking about the people who let you down and go towards people who embrace you now.....

Hogtown? I never could relate to the term until I went by the Junction area.......


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Hogtown

Fred. Here's a quote for you regarding Hogtown.

"Toronto got the name 'Hogtown' for slaughtering pigs, and Quality Meat Packers is probably the last abattoir in the city," says city councillor Joe Pantalone (Trinity-Spadina West). Although it is not an official heritage site, Pantalone says the slaughterhouse is nevertheless "part of the historical link with Toronto's past."

As the old saying goes Fred...."on a clear night the smell swirls in the air like........" Anyway it's just around that area and the name stuck.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Idiot Wind

One of my fav's from one of Dylan's absolutely BEST Albums!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Big Pink DVD Audio

I would say that the sound of the Big Pink DVD Audio is a subtle change from the original. However TLW Audio DVD is a swirling calliope of sound. I was a little surprised that not more was done with the Big Pink Audio DVD; after listening to what was done to Neil Young's, Harvest; when it made it to Audio DVD.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

As Louuuu would say in "Sweet Jane" live to someone at the Bottom Line...."Fuck Radio Ethiopia (referring to Patti Smith's record) this is radio Brooklyn."

I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me
You'll never know the hurt I suffered nor the pain I rise above
And I'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love
And it makes me feel so sorry

Idiot wind, blowing through the buttons of our coats
Blowing through the letters that we wrote
Idiot wind, blowing through the dust upon our shelves
We're idiots, babe
It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves

Dylan...Idiot Wind


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Scroll by if you don't like Bill Maher

Former "Politically Correct" host Bill Maher opened on Broadway in the Big Apple last night. I just read a review that gave him 5 stars. Some of his lines from last night began with a giant World War II poster behind him and he said.......

"Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito....this was the real Axis of Evil. Not that cover band we've got playing now. Come on guys, Saddam Hussein is to Hitler like Oasis is to the Beatles."

Regarding Iraq......"All that Bush was doing," he tells the audience, "is playing that old show business game of Want, Settle, Get. You know what I mean. You want Madonna, you'll settle for Shikira, you get Elvira. Well that's what happened over there. We wanted bin Laden, we'd settle for Saddam, but we got Comical Ali."

Regarding post 9/11 airport security......"Now they check out photo ID's three times before you get on a plane. Haven't they ever heard of phony ID? Bush's daughters had phony ID."

Regarding Republicans........."Do you remember the first night of the 2000 Republican Convention? The last time Republicans had that many black people on stage, they were selling them!"

On the election. "the Republicans did not steal the 2000 election--but it did fall off the truck."

The reviewer goes on to say that Maher after being bumped off TV was the first to be "Dixie Chicked."

Oh because he believes in offending everyone he reminds those in the audience that he was raised Catholic "but never molested.....and I resent that. Why? Didn't they find me attractive."

Apparently when he walked on stage there were a few boos. He said to the audience......"Why are you here if you didn't expect to be shocked? Now take the sticks out of your ass.....that's right all the way out."

I always found Maher a little smarmy (sp) anyway that's from one of the reviews from last night in New York City.


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Posted by:

Lil

Empty Now: I really appreciated (and can identify with) your last post. I too, am a part of the radio generation. I rarely ever watch tv (although I admit to liking "Friends" and re-runs of "Seinfeld", and go to sleep every night to the sounds of "Nick-at-Nite".. mostly to counteract the silence). In the grand scheme of things though, I much prefer to have the radio on than the television.
I liked the way you talked about getting to know people's souls. I used to agree with that. Through experience though, I've found out that trusted souls can be corrupt, and even the most loved and trusted of people can turn out to be nothing like they presented themselves to be. It's sad really. I know this sounds rather cynical, but that seems to be the only way to get through life. And I had a good teacher.

Anyhow EN.. thanks for your always heartfelt posts. You're really a breath of fresh air around here.

Have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: An Unspired Post

Recently I used to post some techniques of the CBists, you known the Citizen Band, not for snobism, i incidently feeled that what made me loving this GB is also some reminiscences from my 20 ages, and btw that could make a connection with some CB-GBers, that’s sure some GBers was surely CBists.
Talking about education and « The book of virtues », i had better in my childhood-teen. I the country where i was, i learned everything from the « Bande déssinée » BD, you know Hergé, Goscinni, Gotlieb…Tintin-Kujfke, Asterix, Lucky Luke. It has no equivalent in other cultures, American call that comics-cartoon, it is really not the same thing. I said in a former post that it’s a religion in that country….Anyway.
I earned from my BD education a certain exhuberant style in post writing, and better, i earned from my CD experience an ethics of communication. Yes i belong to the Radio generation. I saw my first TV picture at age 19. After that i rarely watched the TV, in the latest years i dont watch it anymore. As a judgement of value, i prefer the radio model of culture, you dont have to see if your correspondant is blue, magenta, long tall, sexy, ugly, you just apreciate his-her talk, and through his-her talk, his-her soul. And this also has its charm. Many posters will be surprised if one day they meet the « true » E N –Toef, instead the vivid, correct, worthy poster, they will find an annoying, unworthy, ugly, idiot, …i know we’ll never meet. But in the GB i try to do my best, the minimum……., the merit is of Jan…Those who sign by their true name have anequal merit
I used recently the Phonetic Alphabet for calling someone here, it only permitted me to realize that the mark of Cars « Alpha Romeo » gets its origin from that system..(A.R. ?). and for those who want to know, the « carrier » is the voiceless signal visible on the VU-meter of your CB equipment. This signal is generally sent by someone « On-line » which is listening to a discussion and which informs you that he doesn’t want to participate for any reason. OK !
Suddeenly, the Musician of them all is disinterrested by Stars & Bars, the poet of them all is disinterested by Bukowski, the Japanesse of them all is disinterested by TNTDODD in Japan, The Civil-Warrior of them all turns his back to a work that coasted me a whole searching day. OK !, what’s happening ?…

The only dignity that can someone show is to avoid the Ridicule. To be Consequent with himself…..change of mind and deviousity are a right, dont elevate tham as an art
I received a wealth of Political emails, and emails which talk about people missing me in the GB, i did my best to honnor them, uselessly…i beg you! no more such e-mail, no one knows the effort i must do just to seat aside a PC…while the GB is really Empty Now. I know your intention is safe

Long Life Jan, Long life the Band

For the 2nd time in the GB, the lyrics of Pilot of the Air waves, Charlie Dore, they are my corner of Paradise, Thanks Al Edge you are the only one

« Pilot of the airwaves, Here is my request
You don't have to play it But I hope you'll do your best
I've been listening to your show On the radio
And you seem like a friend to me

Or a record of your choice
I don' t mind , I'd be happy just to hear your voice
Saying this is for the girl Who didn't sign her name
Yes, she needs a dedication just the same

Late at night I'm still listening
Don' t waste my time chasing sleep
People say I look weary
But that 's just the company I keep

Ooooh, you make the nighttime race
Ooooh, I don't need to see your face
You're sounding good…. sounding good….Sounding good to me


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Big Pink - DVD Audio

I think so far it's a US release - but it's available on import. It contains the album in 5.1 sound playable on any DVD player. Graphics are limited - just a faded photo and the lyrics (almost always the photo's of a different Band member to the one singing too). Navigation / audio set-up is clunky, especially compared to Fleetwood Mac's new one, - you have to go right through the track list to get to audio set-up. It has DTS as well as normal 5.1. The booklet is basically the remasters booklet, but it doesn't have the bonus tracks from the remasters. The DVD-A Reisue credit is "Produced by Robbie Robertson" so he supervised the mix into 5.1.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Thunder Road

Jon … Hunter S Thompson (sleeve notes to “Where Were you when the fun Stopped?” which opens with Mitchum’s Thunder Road:

“But (Burroughs) was not the first white man to be busted for weed in my time. No. That was Robert Mitchum, the actor, who was arrested 3 months earlier in Malibu at the front door of his hideaway beach-house for possession of marijuana and suspicion of molesting a teenage girl. I remember the photos: Mitchum wearing an undershirt and snarling at the cops with the sea rolling up and palm trees blowing. Yessir. That was my boy … So welcome to Thunder Road, bubba. It was one of the movies that got a grip on me when I was too young to resist. It convinced me that the only way to drive was at top speed with a carfull of whiskey and I have been driving that way ever since, for good or ill.”

Unfortunately while Dr. Thompson selects ‘The Weight’ for his Songbook compilation, he doesn’t mention why in the sleeve note, but I’d guess it’s the Easy Rider connection. The Songbook concept was a CD selected by a writer, lavishly illustrated and sold in bookstores. Looking at the two “Songbooks” I bought – Hunter S. Thompson and Gilbert Shelton, I now regret that I didn’t buy the whole series. It was a neat concept- I think there were six released with plans for hundreds. It never got beyond the original six and I assume they’re now deleted.


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Posted by:

Frank

Subject: Peter Viney

Peter gd morning, ref your post awhile back, greatly appreciate if you could furnish me with more info per Big Pink DVD/Audio [what does it actually involve] as i am unaware of any such DVD ... THANKS


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Posted by:

Fred

This Clear Channel deal regarding the availability of CDs of a concert right after the concert in question has ended, is it a good thing or a bad thing? I wonder who benefits from this, Clear Channel or the artists?

BTW...it is Clear Channel, right??!

Torontonians out there in GB Land, I have a query...when people refer to Toronto as "Hogtown", are they referring to the whole city or a specific part of the city?


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Pete T, what I don't see is your defense of Bennett by making it into a left/right thing? You and others are claiming that people like me don't see straight because of some political sphere you prefer to place us in. That's, as they say, bullshit. By any measuring reference, William Bennett is a pathetic, blue-nosed hypocrite, a phony piece of crap who trafficks in vice while explaining his behavior with the same libertarian argument he viciously attacks as the usurper of some imagined American morality. If all you and the others who have risen to his defense can say is that I need to see the hypocrisy of the "left"--what is that anyway, people who believe in evolution?--then show me a former Secretary of Education who succeeded to Drug Czar, who calls marijuana and casual smokers a dire threat to American morality, who had made millions claiming answers to these perceived threats and yet is able to gamble away 8 million dollars even as he calls uncontrolled gambling a similiar threat? Who would you say has risen to this level of hypocrisy? This argument is not political unless you wish to bring it there, thinking somehow that you can mitigate its effect by setting up a straw dog. It won't work.

jtullfan makes a point that I generally avoid politics here and encourage others to do so. Bennett's case is different. First off, he's not an elected official, so he owes his power strictly to his views and his ability to elucidate them. Yet the cornerstone of his philosophy, the breakdown of American morality by liberal/libertarian notions, ends up being something he doesn't believe in. He claims gambling can be a problem but that he was capable of controlling it despite losing 8 million dollars, in other words, a classic liberal defense of individual freedom. Hell, fellahs, Bill Bennett spouts one thing, but when he needed to defend his vice, he was Ted Kennedy reincarnate.

Ed, there was a question as to the link between the Cryan Shames and The Barbarians. I guessed the Nuggets collection in which both groups appear.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Ah, Pike has shown us to be utter fools again... Call the Spelling Police!!


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Hei Kalervoooooo! I forgot Finland's Anssi Kela...Still "Nummela" is my fave.....Fave Marley son....Damian Jr.Gong Marley...Texas is Ok too....Pehr's fave....;-D.....Shaggy's alright too.....great "Sexual Healing" cover like Ben Harper's but different groove.....Candy Dulfer...Jazz...plays with Van as well...Thank you Ray P!...Rancid...singing in the spirit of early...Clash...Jon Secada...Afro/Cuban/American...Fave performance was at a Pavarotti event where he sang "Angel" in spanish....falsetto voice and all passion.....

Btw....I've only gambled three times....Atlantic City, New Joisey...Halifax, Nova Scotia...Montego Bay, Jamaica...Don't worry Kalervo...Gambling's not my addiction.....but it's true...My limit went up from 20.00 to 30.00.

Since Ed Voici demanded I post more about Cuba.....(Btw...I got the "photos").....Cuban Pesos/Americano Dollars....While in Habana, Cuba we paid 30.00 US (45.00 Canadian) to see many performers at the end of 16th World Congress Of Sexology....(No wonder so many tourists from USA this time!...;-D) Btw....At the end of the performances children came out with flags of the world.....Yup! American flag was honoured as well by children......Anyway, Cubans paid about 50 pesos....So very difficult to compare money......Films are also really cheap for Cubans as well....We also went to a Mambo Club in Varadero..........Before we went.....Rob Bowman's highschool classmate told me that Rob had probably 1000 records already in grade 11......Now there's someone......


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland
Web: My link

Subject: GA.....and living in 2003

Talking about gambling here is Gamblers Anonymous web site...I have been in Reno for a day, and it was a day too much, a very unpleasant, degenerated place.

Thank you Brown Eyed Girl for those names. Actually it' s 2003, not 1973, so it is logical to have ears for today' s music,too.Tragically Hip is in my check list. Tupac is familiar, because my younger son is into hip hop/rap and I love some of it, too. I saw Ani DiFranco in a fine TV document called Freedom Highway - songs for protests. She is an individual artist, like Holly. And Maria McKee, who is my long time favorite. Oh yes her Young Lovers Do is just as good as Van' s. She has a new album out called High Dive. Marc Ribot is an idol for many guitarists here in Finland, too...

I may send someday my list of new artists. One really interesting artist I am going to explore is Daniel Sepe, from Naples Italy. He is a real original and his band includes Auli Kokko (Finnish-Swedish singer, who is singing in eight languages! woman...)


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Posted by:

Jazzy

Subject: Sighting

Glowgirl, When and exactly where did you see Robbie in New Orleans? I was just there this past Friday-Sunday (May 2-4) for Jazz Fest. Were you? I wonder if Robbie was? Was he with anyone? Thanks for letting us know about the sighting!


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Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Location: Columbia, MD

Subject: Thunder Road

Peter - Bob Mitchum's Thunder Road was the first record I ever bought! Can't believe it got a mention in the old GB!


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Mr. Powell, Mr. Hiatt, Mr. Kennedy

Thanks to David Powell for the fine review of the new John Hiatt CD. I can't wait to pick it up and see the man with the Goners and also solo later this month. I also loved David's "Fear and Loathing in the Twilight Zone." I want to nominate that for the first annual GB Pullmyfinger Prize for best fiction.

Speaking of Ted Kennedy, I'm reading a brilliant book right now called "What Liberal Media?" It is an intelligent and well-documented attack on the tired cliche that the six or so giant media conglamorates that own most TV, radio and newspapers around the world become more conservative every year as their bottom lines dictate. Witness CNN and MSNBC tailoring programs to mimick the Fox (Rupert Murdock) tabloid approach. Witness the countless Limbaugh clones pushing music off of radio endless droning the same stupid stuff (Clinton killed Vince...Ted Kennedy killed Mary Jo). I'd like to see what sort of life Limbaugh and his dittohead lemmings might live if they had two of their siblings horrifically murdered within five years of each other. One of decades of public service like Senator Kennedy? I don't think so. You can't make $250,000,000 in seven years (as Limbaugh did) while serving in the US Senate. I can't wait until the Bill Bennett-style revelations come about Limbaugh. I hear that Bill Clinton is working on that now...


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Kalervo: When I'm not listening to my fave musicians....Dylan, Marley, Louuuu, Van, solo Robbie, The Band, Willy DeVille, Garland Jeffreys, The Clash, Otis Redding, Daniel Lanois....I'm listening to the following younger artists....See....I really do listen to my elders...;-D

Skunk Anansie...saw them perform on a British Music Awards Show...check out "Infidelity" (Only You)
Tragically Hip...Canadian Rock...check out "So Hard Done By" and "Bobcaygeon"
Tupac...Rap with some melody..."More violence in the streets than in the Middle East"...
Ani DiFranco...I saw her open up for Dylan and she was his equal that night...She also believes in the Church of Joni and not the Church of Dylan
Holly McNarland...Canadian rocker with an edge
Ben Harper...Tony...Check out also "Show Me A Little Shame"
Maria McKee...Rocker whose cover of Van's "Young Lovers" is just as good
Marc Ribot...y Los Cubanos Postizos...has also played with Waits...Garth and Marianne Faithfull
Tanita Tikaram...deeeeep mysterious voice from England
Jeff Buckley...I didn't want him to say "Goodbye"
Anouk...Dutch rocker who also loves reggae...sings "Tom Waits"

Nancy: Fave Yothu Yindi song...Treaty (Radio Mix)


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Posted by:

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

Location: La$ Vega$
Web: My link

Don't come to Vega$ on a Full Moon, or full wallet!! LOL ;)


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Showin' Your Ass

Tibbs: Give me another day - two days.... I'm Close .... I can pull that fatcat down ... I can bring him right off this hill!

Gilespie: Boy.. Man, You just like the rest of us...ain't cha?


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois (home state of the guy who sold nukes to Nuclear Korea)
Web: My link

Subject: Rumsfeld and Moulty & the Barabarians (a quality pairing)

I thought I had posted this before, but I don't believe it made it. In any event, the above link is to a Fortune Magazine article reporting that Rumsfeld sat on the board of a Swiss corporation that sold nuke plants to North Korea and on which board Rumsfeld remained even after saddling up with W. So, why is it we have not pre-emptively attacked North Korea?

Viny in Vegas. My oh my. Now that I would love to see.

Who made a reference to Moulty & The Barbarians? I saw them at the Knights of Columbus Hall in Brockton, Mass. in 196?. Their big hit was "Are You Girl Or Are You A Boy?" At the show a bunch of guys started yelling "Moulty's a faggot, Moulty's a faggot!". Moulty, a one armed drummer, that is, he had a prosthesis for one arm, flippd his tormentors the middle finger by bending the other fingers downward at the highest joints on those fingers as opposed to the joints where the fingers meet the hand. Very cool. I can see you all trying it now. :-)


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Teddy Boy

What I fail to understand is your inability to see the hypocrisy on the left with the equal blood in the eyes fervor that you hold for the right. Ted Kennedy is just another in along line of left wingers that got away with murder because of his position in life. Is that fair to you? Or are you so blind to the real world by your political convictions? Taking over the world????????????? Took over the world, don't kid yourself....................


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Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: What does Ted Kennedy have to do with the tea-totalling petty tyrant puritanical sanctimonious fundamentalist liars trying to take over the world?


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Thinking & linking: Las Vegas

Bloody hell, Bob! Just followed the link - and realized that were we there on different days we could have seen Lou Reed, Fleetwood Mac, The Neville Bros … so this is the secret of Las Vegas. I also see that Dion, Bobby Rydell, Olivia Newton-John, The Four Seasons are all strutting their stuff in the coming months. Half the upcoming attractions are people i thought were dead … but would still like to see. (With the Four Seasons top of the list). Will spend an hour on this link tomorrow. In my innocence I have never been there before. My only casino experience was in 1970. I put 50p on 23 (my age), lost it and started to wander away from the table. A large thug grabbed my collar and demanded a £1 table charge. This was somewhere in the wilds of Yorkshire and I never bothered again.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

jtullfan, thanks for the compliment.

Bill, Nuggets?


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Posted by:

David Powell

"We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like 'I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive...'"

My sources, one Raoul Duke & Dr. Gonzo, his Samoan lawyer, indeed confirm that it was the aforementioned Ms. Crow, who was spotted with the two suspects. She was allegedly trying to leave Las Vegas when she joined the two co-conspirators and abruptly changed her tune.

Bob, Peter & JTull Fan: enjoy your stay in Vegas, but leave your milk money at home.

"You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over. And my first advice is that you should rent a very fast car with no top. This blows my weekend, because naturally I'll have to go with you--and we'll have to arm ourselves."

(quotations from Hunter S. Thompson)


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Web: My link

Subject: Attn: All Vegas Visitors

This link's for you.

Not you Mr. Bennett. Just keep hitting on seventeen until we say stop.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Vegas

I leave for the Las Vegas Hilton on Monday. It's a secret. The plot thickens.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Crow & Colvin

David P- I assume you meant Shawn Colvin was in the Cadillac rather than Sheryl Crow who sang Leaving Las Vegas, not Viva Las Vegas … all part of the conspiracy of course.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: conspiracy theories …

It is all coming together - I will be in Las Vegas mid June too … so there's Sundog, Bill Bennett, me, a copy of Hunter S. Thompson (the audio retelling by Hunter), my car CDR with Viva Las Vegas in the Shawn Colvin version (which appears on an album with the 90s Band), the movie OST of Fear & Loathing, the great CD of personal selections by Hunter "Where were you when the fun stopped" (in the short-lived Songbook series) which includes White Rabbit, The Weight, Walk on The Wild Side, Mr Tambourine Man, Why Don't We Get Drunk? (Jimmy Buffet), Spirit in the Sky and Robert Mitchum's "Ballad of Thunder Road" AND Herbie Mann's Battle Hymn of the Republic … a very interesting selection. Well … I'm glad I never gamble.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Brennan: This Bennett thread is all your fault!


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

PatB: And what did the Cryin' Shames have in common with the Barbarians, whose song "Moulty" our guys played on?


Entered at Tue May 6 21:22:42 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Ethics - Correctness

Why only American expose their Political figures to the Worldest audience criticism (in the GB)

Apologies about my comment below about Mr Bill Bennett, the Chief of Department of Education, (didn’t knew that before) whatever are his drawbacks.


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Ben Pehr

Ted Kennedy, 'Nuff said


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Fear & Loathing in the Twilight Zone

In the words of Rod Serling, submitted for your perusal: Imagine a '55 pink Cadillac convertible, with the top down, cruising down the strip in Las Vegas. It's four a.m. and the three occupants of the vehicle, one Tim "Sundog" Corcoran, former drug czar Billy J. Bennett and a comely young lady known as Sheryl Crow, are singing along with the following song, blaring from the car's speakers:

"Bright light city gonna set my soul
Gonna set my soul on fire
Got a whole lot of money that's ready to burn
So get those stakes up higher
There's a thousand pretty women waitin' out there
And they're all livin' devil may care
And I'm just the devil with love to spare
Viva Las Vegas, Viva Las Vegas"
--(Doc Pomus & Mort Shuman)


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Posted by:

Bones

I've read more about Bill Bennett from the Band's guestbook than from any newspaper in the last 10 years. Go figure.

David Powell: Regarding Band fan John Hiatt, didn't the Goners play on his recent The Tiki Bar Is Open cd? I thought that was a great record.


Entered at Tue May 6 20:41:36 CEST 2003 from m124-130.on.tac.net (209.202.124.130)

Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

DavidP: What were you thinking - mentioning Wayne Newton like that here in a room full of impressionable youngsters? A couple weeks ago I stumbled onto a Wayne bio online - not that I wanted to but because I was looking for info on another of the 'big three' Yonge Street bar bands, Joe King and the Zaniacs (the others being Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks and Frank Motley and the Motley Crew). Newton was inspired, it seems, by the Zaniacs' ability to play through the hecklers.


Entered at Tue May 6 20:39:18 CEST 2003 from h-68-165-57-211.chcgilgm.covad.net (68.165.57.211)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Funny, I don't recall George Harrison being appointed to head the Department of Education or being proclaimed the Drug Czar. You see George Harrison only impacts my life if I choose him to, while Bennett made and makes policy. And therein lies the difference.

David Powell, as usual, is on to something.

And the USA Network's Helen of Troy/Band connection? The lead actress is the daughter of Isaac Guillory, a wonderful Cuban guitarist who lent his considerable talents to the Revelles and the Cryan Shames--two Chicago bands I saw a lot and loved--then moved to England where he released an acclaimed album that included a version of The Weight. Isaac died a few years ago.


Entered at Tue May 6 20:37:28 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.175)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Viva Las Vegas

David,

I will be in Vegas May 21 thru 25 and will look into any and all the matters you have cited. I'm hoping to meet Mr. Bennett at the poker table as he apparently is an easy mark. I may be early for the Sundog Shakedown but I'm sure the preliminaries will be under way in one form or another.

Has anyone ever seen Bennett, Sundog and Wayne Newton in the same place at the same time? I reckon seeing Wayne Newton at any place and at any time is shock enough to the system. Is it possible Sundog is behind Vegas' latest ad campaign..."What Happens Here Stays Here"? It's obvious Bennett couldn't be.

Actually, I'm looking more forward to seeing my musical idols...Kook E. Jarr and the Krumbs who, after a long run at DiMatteo's T-Bar just blocks from my birthplace, have moved on to Sin City.

Danke Schon


Entered at Tue May 6 20:06:31 CEST 2003 from bmgr.fayar.net (66.204.18.2)

Posted by:

Payton Samuels

Location: Farmington, AR

Subject: "The Last Waltz" Movie

The movie is so cool! There are cool songs in the movie. My favorite is "Don't Do It."


Entered at Tue May 6 20:04:11 CEST 2003 from host2.pgfm.com (12.13.177.66)

Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Conspiracy Theory

What's going on in the Guestbook? First, a certain self-proclaimed ethicist, with a serious predilection for gambling, becomes a topic of discussion. Then, Tim (Sundog) resurfaces with a link to news that the annual Summer Shakedown will be relocating to his new home in Las Vegas. Are these events connected in some sinister way, or is it merely coincidence? What caused these forces to converge in the capital of entertainment, in a political state where gambling & prostitution, as well as certain performances by Wayne Newton, are legalized? Are these random events, "not unusual" in the words of Tom Jones, or is it evidence of a secret cabal at work? You must be the judge, fair citizens of the Guestbook(:-}


Entered at Tue May 6 20:02:29 CEST 2003 from webcacheb02a.cache.pol.co.uk (195.92.168.164)

Posted by:

Martin Bennett

Location: Lancashire

Subject: Halcyon rock

Halcyon rock-the next oasis


Entered at Tue May 6 19:45:24 CEST 2003 from mix-rouen-107-2-122.abo.wanadoo.fr (193.248.21.122)

Posted by:

daniel david

Location: France

Subject: mono mixes

I Shall Be Released and The Weight I just found these two tracks came out on a Japanese compilation ; Emptynow,thanks for your nice welcome Regards Daniel


Entered at Tue May 6 19:43:10 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-176.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.176)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Voluntary referee needed

As someone who'd fortunately never heard of this Bennett guy, but now has, I judge him to be a total arsehole. What you guys need is an impartial referee to weigh up the guy's arseholeness. I volunteer. OK, weighed up on the evidence presented. 99.0732% arsehole, which is statistically so close to total as not to matter. Now can we get back to the music?


Entered at Tue May 6 19:30:59 CEST 2003 from m198214176229.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.229)

Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: john W.

Yes John W. I guess my point fits well with yours in some way, but I just dont come here to be in touch with the latest fundamentalist breakthroughs...


Entered at Tue May 6 19:08:48 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Un bon vent de fraicheur souffle sur le GB aujourd'hui

Daniel David: Welcome in the Ultimate Band Fan site, sorry i don't have the information, otherwise i'd be glad to satisfy your enquiry


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Posted by:

daniel david

Location: france

Subject: mono mixes

Hello I' m desperately trying to find which records by the Band were issued in mono. Searching this site so far I only found 3 : -GET UP JAKE SINGLE -AINT GOT NO HOME B SIDE -HANG UP MY RR SHOES PROMO Any expert can help? Thanks Daniel David


Entered at Tue May 6 18:48:21 CEST 2003 from 203.43.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.43.203)

Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: Helena R.

...I'm glad to know, Helena, that the comments are enjoyable...nice to communicate with people outside *our* borders...Sweden strikes me as a place I need to visit, have never even been to Europe, but the Scandinavian countries have an appeal I can't explain...I'd like to listen to the Band in another country, have never done that, oddly enough...seems to me that many Europeans have better taste in their choice of United States music than do citizens of our own country...


Entered at Tue May 6 18:44:17 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

Ben, Pehr - Guys, you are only helping prove my point, i.e. you don't like someone "telling you how to live your life" if they promote traditional conservative views, but it seems to be quite all right if they are promoting traditional liberal causes. So it's not really about "someone telling you how to live your life", it's about who is telling you and what "moral virtues" they advocate.


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Posted by:

John D

BEG. Keep all this Robbie stalking up and you could be the next Mrs. Robinson.......er....... I mean Mrs. Robertson. Look out Dominique.


Entered at Tue May 6 18:21:50 CEST 2003 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: Music mag

A while back there was some talk about music magazines. A friend sent the above link. Paste magazine, "Signs of Life In Music And Culture". From their subscription page: "Paste Magazine is a quarterly, glossy, spectacularly-written and -conceived consumer print magazine packaged each issue with a full-length sampler CD. Paste looks for what we call "signs of life in music & culture" and shines our little spotlight on them. That usually seems to mean the best of a wide variety of music, somewhat concentrated in what "the industry" calls adult-alternative (Triple A), Americana and "indie rock." We also seem drawn to intelligent hip-hop, world, jazz, film and even some books (hey we can read more than rock journalism!). Paste is about the artists, not about the artists' bodies. We've even been accused of being the "thinking person's Rolling Stone" but (don't) tell anybody we said that."

I'm in. Anyone? Anyone?


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Posted by:

SpellCheck

Subject: duh

That's "hypocrite."


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Posted by:

Ushud Sukamadik

Web: My link

Subject: GB

Don't anyone ever let 14 hours go by again without someone making an entry in this place. Even Viney was at a loss for words to enter. Unbelievable!

PEHR you're right on the money about Dubya. M.Moore's "Dear George" open letter in "Stupid white men" is a MUST read for all. You forgot to mention that Dubya is also a convicted drunk and a thief. He's also a spoiled brat, an asshole of marginal intelligence.

PIKE, learn to spell "hippocrite". Pehr gave you a clue just before your post.Your punishment is to write out (in this GB) George Bush, the hippocrite, is a shameful prick. 50 times.

The level of intellect in this place is atrocious.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland Tx

Oh well, now that a conservative blowhard has been exposed as an obvious fraud, we get, "shrug" "we're ALL hypocrates, what's the big deal?" Funny, I don't remember any such leveling permissiveness being granted The Clintons by the likes of the devine Miss R.

The foolish Harrison comparison pushes this nonsense to extremes. Other than the odd song lyric, I certainly don't remember George "preaching"; although he invited others to explore his beliefs. That's a far cry from raking in big bucks explaining to suckers how their values are better than those amoral liberals; then taking the dough and blowing it in slot machines! Get real.


Entered at Tue May 6 17:39:39 CEST 2003 from m198214176229.austin.cc.tx.us (198.214.176.229)

Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: hippocrites inc.

Interesting post John W. Kind of like Clinton pisses you off about Monicagate to no end, yet its ok for Dubya to lie about being a pilot, lie about serving in Alabama, refuse to admit to using daddy's influence to get in the guard, get out of the guard, to get in the awl bidnit, get out of the awl bidnit after losing millions worth of OPM, Buy the Governors Office with money, get in bed with Enron, lie about not using re election to the governors office to run for the White House, using the governors office to pass legislation allowing him to make multi million dollar baseball deals, then the presidency to make afghan, iraqi and soon syrian pipeline deals, etc., etc. with all of this sactimonious talk about his "Character".


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Posted by:

Helena R.

Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Subject: ...music... boring etc.

David Powell, Ray Pence and Calvin! Thank you for your comments on music and listening. Good reading!!! //Helena


Entered at Tue May 6 17:19:42 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

Bennett is certainly exposed as a hypocrite, but once again some of us are reacting based more on the positions than the hypocracy. George Harrison preached against materialism and I'm sure he was earnest, yet lived in opulence in million dollar mansions and traveled on private jets and limos. Not that I'm trying to knock old George, just pointing out we seem to accept a bit more hypocracy from those we like. Of course nobody likes those people who try to tell you how to live your life, but without moral positions we are sying there's no right or wrong in this world and that ain't right either. Lots of people in rock take stands based on their moral principles -- think of Bono, Sting, even Robbie, Rick, etc... You can't say these people are not "telling you how to live your life"... You just don't feel as angry about it as when a right wing millionaire tells you how to live, because you don't agree with their positions and they do not make music you like.


Entered at Tue May 6 17:10:55 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: David Rogan

Q1 – All the items
Q2 – Yes
Q3 – Not clear, i guess Hardly ever (verify)
Q4 – often
Q5 – 6 – No – you can act at your own PC options
Q7 – No
Q8-9 – Yes
Q10- a Big YES
Q11- Never
Q12-15 No
Q 16 – Worse
Q 17 – Content
Q 18 – No
Q 19- The best musical site ever

Note : Q1 –You may allow more than 1 choice, the automatic email send doesnt work, Good Luck for your work


Entered at Tue May 6 16:53:49 CEST 2003 from lam12.gcal.ac.uk (193.62.239.114)

Posted by:

David Rogan

Location: Scotland
Web: My link

Subject: The Band Questionnaire

Hi, I'm a student at Glasgow Caledonian University and my MSc dissertation is trying to discover what makes users re-visit music artists' Web sites. I know, questionnaires are really annoying but this will honestly take about a minute. I would really appreciate some help from my fellow Band fans! If anyone wants to fill out one out, please click on "My Link".

Thanks


Entered at Tue May 6 16:03:15 CEST 2003 from host2.pgfm.com (12.13.177.66)

Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines
Web: My link

Subject: new CD from John Hiatt & The Goners

Just a reminder that today is the release date for the new album from John Hiatt & The Goners -- "Beneath This Gruff Exterior" (New West Records / see above link).

The CD opens with some power chords and the opening line "I do my best thinkin' sittin' on my ass..." and through a dozen original songs, Mr. Hiatt & his band do anything but sit still. With co-billing, Mr. Hiatt gives The Goners (Sonny Landreth, Dave Ranson & Kenneth Blevins) props, and they come through with a gloriously raw sound recorded live in the studio.

This is a turning point of sorts for John Hiatt and he has produced an album that stands up there with his finest work, the trilogy of "Bring The Family", "Slow Turning" and "Stolen Moments". His songwriting talent shines bright and his trademark gruff vocals soar as never before. With the rock-steady rumble of Dave Ranson on bass & Kenneth Blevins on drums, and the roar of Sonny Landreth's slide guitar, "Beneath This Gruff Exterior" is a high-octane ride down the back roads of the country, from Tennessee to Colorado.

"Saw a red-tailed hawk eatin' road kill
Said 'Man what happened to your dignity?'
He said 'Subdivisions have taken my home,
There's no more prey to eat.'
I said 'Where we gonna live?'
He said 'Anywhere you want to I guess.
All you creatures walkin' upright round here;
You really made a mess'"...
--("Fly Back Home")


Entered at Tue May 6 15:58:24 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Helen of Troy

I didn't remember the entire post about the network and 60s pop. Oh well...I found another Helen of Troy connection for you.


Entered at Tue May 6 15:38:48 CEST 2003 from m124-130.on.tac.net (209.202.124.130)

Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

PatB: Assuming USA Network is a TV network, and that its Helen of Troy is a TV show or series, then I''ll guess that the connection must be via the Fabulous Rhinestones, Illinois Speed Press and/or the Buckinghams.

BEG: Do you know when the Native Centre was established on Spadina? There was no Bloor-Danforth line until the mid-'60s, by which time our guys had left town. Before that it was streetcars all the way - a serious investment of time for the carfree young musician with a cross-town gig or practice to attend.


Entered at Tue May 6 15:32:47 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: The crowd slowly dispersed.... dont take it at the first sense

Echo Delta Whiskey Alpha Romeo Delta …Papa Echo Tango Echo Romeo….Send a carrier


Entered at Tue May 6 14:25:23 CEST 2003 from hse-hamilton-ppp189919.sympatico.ca (64.229.1.78)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

I have an interview taped where Robbie also confirmed that he lived at Bloor/Bathurst area in Toronto as well...One subway stop away from Native Centre.

When I showed the photos I took of Robbie's former home in Riverdale Robbie looked at them with great interest. I thought like many people that Robbie lived in Cabbagetown because the information was in Levon's book and that he would know since they were good friends at one time.....but I knew something was up when there wasn't any First Avenue in Cabbagetown....The hood where I've been living for more than a decade....Thanks again to Bill Munson who told me where First Avenue was in Riverdale...which is not very far from Cabbagetown.......

I also contacted Robbie's former High School....R.H.King Academy (name change) and visited the school with one of his former grade 10 classmates...The administrative assistant told me that she's also a Robbie fan but she couldn't find any photos or information to send me....I've been told by Robbie's former classmate that he dropped out in grade 10. They were in the same math and typing classes.....Hmmmm....Those courses came in handy afterall....


Entered at Tue May 6 14:24:48 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: The Missing Link 2

I guess people here are laughing on my ignorance, why searshing a so non-evident link, i just read a review of « The book of virtues », it IS « Life of Brian »

Band connection : Always look aaat the ni-ice si-ide of life, fuw fuw ....... fuw fuw .fuw fuw fuw fuw

OVER


Entered at Tue May 6 13:34:08 CEST 2003 from sc-hiltonhead1c-138.hhe.adelphia.net (68.168.204.138)

Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Helen of Troy

The only link I can come up with is Brian Johnson from ACDC has a a musical production of "Helen of Troy" due to debut in November. The Band and ACDC are both members of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.????


Entered at Tue May 6 13:05:43 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: The Missing Link..there’s always a missing link

Bill Bennett (i’m not interested by the topic, i didnt understand why posters talk about his hypocrisy)…..
Then Hypocrisy…
Then Georges Harrison (Thanks Charlie, music suggestion in the GB is my 3rd hobby)…
Then re-hypocrisy and the Aldutress Parable…
Then Life of Bryan, Monty Python…

The Missing Link : Monthy Python’s « Life of Bryan » is produced by GEORGES HARRISON, you can verify the information

Ed : Hold the line….pom pom pom pom….Love isn't always on time, woh woh woh woh

That’s all folks


Entered at Tue May 6 10:13:43 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-201.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.201)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Bill Tidy cartoon - Gimmee A Stone

… Rosalind's Biblical reference reminds me of a late 60s cartoon by Bill Tidy - did Monty Python lift it for Life if Brian? They lifted other Bill Tidy jokes - anyway, the Biblical crowd are stoning a lithe and naked adulteress very gently indeed with tiny stones, and have turned furiously on a guy holding a bigger rock, and someone is saying 'Hey! Not too hard!' … and I even got a Levon performance in the title.


Entered at Tue May 6 06:41:08 CEST 2003 from netcache-2004.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.198.63)

Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Hypocrisy

Face it -- We're all hypocrites in one way or another. Right, Left, Up, Down, Over and Under. Reminds of the story in the New Testament about the woman being caught in the act of adultery and the people of the city picking up rocks to stone her to death. The Lord, when he saw what they were about to do, stooped down and wrote words in the dirt .. The Bible didn't say what those words were. I always felt they may have been the Ten Commandments. He raised up, looked around and said "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone." The crowd slowly dispersed.....


Entered at Tue May 6 06:06:26 CEST 2003 from ac8b9ee1.ipt.aol.com (172.139.158.225)

Posted by:

Tim(SUNDOG)Corcoran

Location: Las Vegas
Web: My link

Subject: ~Never Forget~

Boy,,,I remember the daze when this place hit,,bit,,,kicked and then some!!! But for the most part,,this place will ALWAYS be a warm cozy chair to me,, of days that I'll never forget {;-) Be well All!!!


Entered at Tue May 6 06:06:19 CEST 2003 from dialup-67.73.155.102.dial1.chicago1.level3.net (67.73.155.102)

Posted by:

Pat Brennan

I'm stunned nobody got the Helen of Troy/Band connection.


Entered at Tue May 6 03:39:04 CEST 2003 from 223.64.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.64.223)

Posted by:

Dexy

Subject: EW, New Yorker

In my never ending quest to identify current pop culture references to The Band, here are two from this week: 1) New Yorker Magazine, May 5, 2003: ad on page 47 for a new Sheryl Crow Hear Music Collection. Songs from her "influences" are chosen, including Dylan and "The Band With the Staples Sister." Wonder what song? 2) Entertainment Weekly, May 9, 2003. Page 30. A page called "Collage Rock," with small portions of famous album covers that you are supposed to recall. One is a portion of MFBP, the guy playing something like a sitar (a bass, Bob?), with a coffee mug on his head. I leave tomorrow for a week on the road. Be good, now.


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Posted by:

Tracy

Thanks for the heads up John D.! I don't read the guestbook too often and don't look back at many past posts. It's always nice to have a "Canadian connection."

Tracy


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Posted by:

glowgirl

Location: The big sleazy

Subject: SIGHTING

My heart stopped to see Mr. Robertson walking down the street, the street where Storyville used to be. So cool to see him on earth and see him smile...


Entered at Tue May 6 03:05:04 CEST 2003 from h24-87-53-7.vc.shawcable.net (24.87.53.7)

Posted by:

Cupid

Location: Rollin down the street smokin indo sippin on Gin n Juice

Subject: The Gourds and bluegrass

you Gourds fans should also look into a little Bluegrass outfit called Hayseed Dixie. They released a CD of AC/DC covers [Hells Bells kicks off with one of them "ring for service" type bells, it's a hoot]. They also released a collection of Rock hits that have been reworked into Bluegrass tunes[Cat Scratch Fever actually sounds ok when it's got Mandolin on it. A Greek friend of mine insists it's "Scratch that Beaver" but that's another story] and most recently they released a KISS tribute cd..again all Bluegrass.Imagine the Beverly Hillbilly's in Kiss make up...or imagine Gene Simmons in Bib overalls with a Banjo...you get the idea...So ya see there is still some good music to be found out there,the big labels haven't completely co-opted music...it's not ALL product....it's not all dishonest cookie cutter American Idol/Lou Perlman no soul empty calories boy bland Christina Spears rubbish..there are a few brave souls willing to get a little cow shit on their shoes, who will indeed Rock n Roll all night and party every day...in the barn...oops must run Hockey game is on shortly..Peace...and hugs to Brown eyed Girl


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Posted by:

Kevin Gilbertson

Location: NE PA

Subject: Wilco / Son Volt / Uncle Tupelo

For me, Tweedy's vocals seem to carry an album further than Farrar's.

Also, I do like how each Wilco LP is different than the last one.

If anyone is really into them and has YHF, the band is streaming high quality outtakes from their Website. These outtakes are on the Australian EP but the band decided to release them free, for US fans. You'll need your YHF CD to get some sort of "key" for downloading.

While they have been compared to The Band (they were presented that way to me - I never really got the connection musically), the only Band connection I know of is when Uncle Tupelo opened up for Michelle Shocked on the same tour that the Band was on. I remember reading somewhere that Levon indicated they (Tweedy and Farrar) were hard workers.

I also have an article where Levon mentions Anodyne as one of the CD's he was listening to (at the time of the quote).



Entered at Tue May 6 02:38:01 CEST 2003 from ac96bd7e.ipt.aol.com (172.150.189.126)

Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Jim Weider Band- 6/27 at The Turning Point

If you're in the New York City vicinity on Friday June 27th check out the Jim Weider Band at The Turning Point, Piermont, N.Y. (845- 359- 1089)- about 20 miles from New York City. This is a great live band at a great price. And they're fan-friendly.


Entered at Tue May 6 01:33:07 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.188.165)

Posted by:

tony

Subject: responses re: wilco, johnston, film, etc..

David P.: thanks for the recommendations on the Wilco doc., I've been putting off seeing it but since you endorse it so highly I'll have to check it out. Besides I can't resist a feud caught on tape...sounds like REALITY TV...and we know how much fun that is(n't)

Brian SZ: I agree 100% that I always get the feeling that Uncle Tupelo was right on the verge of magic, like at any moment they could do something really special, but the points you brought up about collaboration (or lack of) hurt them, especially with the vocals. I would have loved to see more trade offs, etc. I guess I consider Son Volt to be a simpler countrified sound whereas Wilco seems to be Tweedy's Toy, more experimental sounds and feedback and such.

Todd: I love the song Doug Sahm sings on, didn't realize he was on Danko's first (thanks), and I've already said I think Dylans voice from the mid-seventies was at its best.

Fast Eddie you the man!! Since we're on th subject, Tweedy's at Martyr's 5/16 and it is sold out (I'm working on it) I'll keep you posted...

"I've counted out days
to see how far
I've driven in the dark
w/ echoes in my heart
phone my family tell them I'm lost on the
sidewalk"
"Kamera"


Entered at Tue May 6 01:32:02 CEST 2003 from mcha-aa065.taconic.net (205.231.148.64)

Posted by:

Lil

Bones: Thank you. I think you're probably right when you say that less people may know Robbie casually. I appreciate your nice reply.

Have a good night everyone.


Entered at Tue May 6 01:23:23 CEST 2003 from cache-df07.proxy.aol.com (205.188.208.107)

Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Pat

Pat, I agree with you totally about Big Bill Bennet and I did not take what you said as an attack on anyone other than the Big Guy. I find it more and more difficult to tell the difference between right and left, it is a shifting sand. I am leary of anyone telling people how to live and what is moral and what is not. When someone puts themselves on that pedestal its a long way to fall. People of power also scare me to death, I dont know what the reason is for wanting to run peoples lives. Power itself I guess. I know I love music and The Band is my favorite thing in this world. What I like about this site is that there are many bands that I am hearing about that I never knew about and now am searching out. Thats what I think is great about music, there is so much and enough for everyone. The poltics makes me laugh, not much point to getting upset by it.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: George Harrison Tribute CD & Bumbling Bill Bennett

I just bought a great new George Harrison tribute CD the other day with brand-new cover versions of Harrison songs recorded by artists ranging from older musicians such as the late John Entwhistle to younger acts who love the songs George wrote for the Beatles and during his solo career. My favorite track so far is the brilliant new Todd Rundgren (connection to The Band) version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps."

As far was William Bennett goes, he is a hypocrite of the worse sort. I always thought he was obnoxious for raking in millions by slapping his name on a series of "virtues" books that were nothing but public domain material and then promoting that as some sort of brilliance. Bennett isn't worthy of being mentioned in the same post as George Harrison (a truly giving and moral man), so I will shut up, though.


Entered at Tue May 6 00:30:21 CEST 2003 from host-141-187.kalisz.mm.pl (81.15.141.187)

Posted by:

Lord of Chaos

Web: My link

hey, what are you talking about? \m/


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Posted by:

"Fast Eddie" Voci

Location: Illinois

Subject: Tony, Todd and Tupelo's Max Johnston

To complete Todd's answer to Tony, yes Max Johnston is now a member of The Gourds. He has appeared on these Gourds' recordings:

"Ghosts of Hallelujah": Guitar (Electric), Banjo, Dobro, Fiddle, Guitar, Mandolin;

"Bolsa de Agua": Vocals, Slide Guitar, Banjo, Fiddle, Guitar, Mandolin

"Cow Fish Fowl or Pig": Guitar (Electric), Vocals, Vocals (Background), Guitar (Resonator), Guitar (Acoustic), Banjo, Fiddle, Mandolin, Songwriter

"Shinebox": Arranger, Vocals, Banjo, Fiddle, Guitar

His song "First In Line" on CFFP is a real beauty. Melodic, dramatic, passionate and on the celtic side of things. They guy plays anything with strings attached, but his fiddle stands out. His contribution to The Gourds overall has been immense, imho.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Pete T, please note there was no attack "on the right," at least by me. I hold dear many conservative principles like keeping the government off citizen's backs and a balanced Federal budget. I also like term limits but I see the constitutional problem with them. I just don't need some millionaire windbag telling me that smoking a little pot produces "an atmosphere of tolerance" that destroys America's moral fiber. He can blow 8 million gambling then tell me I should go to jail for destroying his America. F*ck him and his people.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

For my own amusement (and perhaps yours after you've finished chuckling at the worthlessness of Bill Bennett's life), find a link between The Band and the USA Network's recent Helen of Troy. A sidewind through 1960's Chicago pop holds the key.

Actually, Bill Bennett's life has great worth as an example of how brow-beating moralists are almost always full of sh*t.


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: William Bennet

Geese, thats like attacking the left using Al Sharpton, shooting fish in the barrel. Oh I did it again, sorry, I'll stop now


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Safe to take a backward glance …

I had the luxury this evening of simply sitting still and listening through the Big Pink DVD-Audio once again. If you have a 5.1. system invest in it, and make sure you switch the audio setup to DTS, which is a bit cumbersome to do, but worth it. I forgot how really bizarre the spaces in the music seemed when it first came out. This was such a seriously DIFFERENT album then, and years of listening to the stereo have blunted the novelty. The subtle shifting of the spaces on the DVD-A brings back that initial impact again, hearing Garth surging right along the left side of the room rather than on the left front speaker, Rick and Levon locked together on the right – not as usual for drums in the centre. The voices in the middle of the room but all spatially seperated – somehow the novelty of 1968 is restored after years of familiarity.

My one criticism – the on-screen lyrics. I sympathize with those who’ve criticized my articles for analyzing when the mystery of the half-heard lyric is half the secret. Except no one makes you read the articles. I’d like the on-screen lyrics as an option rather than taken for granted.

Ringo 89 – there’s an interview somewhere. From memory:
Levon was invited to join, then informed he was actually being asked to play percussion not drums as they already had two drummers. The air turned dark blue, Ringo backtracked at once and Levon became drummer #3.


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Uncle Tupelo...Again

At the risk of turning this GB into an Uncle Tupelo/Wilco message board (rather than a William Bennet one), I wanted to mention that the great Doug Sahm
(from Rick Danko's first solo album) plays guitar and sings his song "Give Back the Key to My Heart" on Uncle Tupelo's "Anodyne" album. His vocal style
is a cross between Ronnie Wood, mid 1970's Dylan, with a little bit of John Prine mixed in.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: correction #2

did I say 'Manual'?, heh heh


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Wilco

Tony: Yes, Max Johnston Played on the first two Wilco albums, as well as with Uncle Tupelo on "Anoydyne"

As David Powell reccomended, the Documentary about the making of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is excellent. There's a very real life moment in the film when Jeff Tweedy is in a restaurant with his wife and son, and realizes that he doesn't have enough cash to pay for their meals. It might have been as simple as forgetting his wallet in the van, but I thought that it offered up a very real counterpart to the image of the "super rich rock star".

I think that the problems with Jay Bennet came to a head during the mixing of "Y.H.F." when he started to become very territorial during the mixing sessions. I enjoy his musicianship, and think that his will be very big shoes to fill.

I'd also like to offer up my vote for Walker Evans as a great photographer.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: correction to last post

sorry...Shawn's original offer was 'Wed 23 APR 19:29:05 CEST 2003' not '23 Aug'.


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Posted by:

Gene

Subject: The Band set - Cleveland, 31 Aug 1974

Re-Offer for b&p...YOU MUST ALSO RE-OFFER...

Thanks to the generosity of Shawn (see Wed 23 Aug 19:29:05 CEST 2003), I am re-offering The Band's set from the CSNY show of 31 August 1974 in Cleveland.

1. Intro
2. Stage Fright
3. The Weight
4. Lovin' You Is Sweeter Than Ever
5. Dixie
6. Endless Highway
7. Smoke Signals
8. WS Walcott
9. Cripple Creek

This is a very nice audience tape but, unfortunately, Richard Manual was absent, due to illness. As the set is pretty short, I'm adding the SNL Rehearsals of 30 October 1976 which is also OUTSTANDING. eMail golfbravoromeo@hotmail.com...I'll take the first 3 responses...remember, you must re-offer. Only the first 3 will be notified.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Son Volt, Wilco, Uncle Tupelo

I personally like all 3 incarnations though they all lack a certain power punch in my estimation. Uncle Tupelo suffered in that Tweedy wrote and sang his songs and Farrar wrote and sang his. There was/is little to no Band like magic in them though they are compared to the Band (I too have made this reference as well) I say that because though both have unique voices they never traded off or used them both for the benefit of one (the group). Son Volt cd's all have songs that are seemingly on the verge of being something in the realm of pop, then changes the structure of the song at the precise moment you think the song could be a popish type song. Tweedy also does this on Wilco records but seems to do it more with whacky or unorthodox guitar playing than in the dynamic of song structure.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Music: Maybe Lil can answer this one

I've mentioned the '89 All-Starr tour as my first introduction to The Band (well, not really, but it was the beginning of my love affair with them)Does anybody know how BOTH Rick and Levon got involved? I assume Ringo called one of them, who in turn recommended the other, but was it Rick or was it Levon who was called first? Levon at first seems the obvious first choice as the second drummer, but given Jim Keltner's involvement, (and THREE drummers seeming excessive)perhaps Rick was the first contacted who then was able to include Levon after Keltner had already signed on.


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Posted by:

Sheila

Location: Fayetteville AR

Just catching up on the posts from last day or two. I want to agree with John W. about the Dixie Chicks. People should let sleeping dogs lie! But, any publicity is better than none, so I don't think they'll come out with the short end of the stick.

Took the copy of Levon's book back to the library and checked out "Under A Hoodoo Moon The Life of The Night Tripper, Dr. John". Looks like an interesting book, the little I've read so far. I was going to try to find a copy of Ronnie Hawkin's bio "Last of the Good Ol' Boys" but was so surprised to find that no library in my area (there are 6)has a copy. As well known as he is and his home town libraries don't have his book. What a deal! Carry on ya'all and have a good day!


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Perhaps Bill Bennett can open a restaurant with Pete Rose

OK, Pat, I'll let you off on this one, but you'll have to grant me a free pass one day in the future. :) Actually, I'd have to say Bill Bennett belongs to that annoying club also occupied by Jesse Jackson and the like. These are self-appointed spokespeople who only dabbled with politics but really want a soapbox to keep standing on and invent reasons to remain relevant and to keep getting on the 24 hour news networks. And of course, none of them seem able to live by the code with which they intend the rest of us to live. Is Bennett a bad guy? No. He just has a major gambling problem. But, having such a problem disqualifies him as a role model or public trust, as far as I am concerned.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: ERIC

I'd never heard of this creep Bennett, but I have now. As Roger might confirm, the surname does not bode well. We both know other bastards with the same one. Enigmatic that. Just the two of us will understand.

EN- not offended by anything - just busy.

But greatly pleased to see mention of Walker Evans and 'Let Us Now Praise Famous Men'- Walker Evans helped prove photography as an art form. I find his photos extremely relevant in the context of the brown album


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

John W, what sets creeps like Bennett apart from the typical blue-noses is the political use of his tripe. Politicians use the "failing moral compass" gambit with unerring regularity. Lying under oath? The list is long. Lying in general? Please. Seeking moral direction from political leaders is laughable. And as far as Lewinsky getting another show, file it right next to John Wilkes Booth's "body" making the state fair circuit in the late 1800's to much acclaim and interest. Notoriety sells, even back in Bennett's pure old days.

We know Iraq has WMD. We have the receipts.

jtullfan, again, no Dem/Repub, Conser/Lib stuff, just the hypocrisy of asswipes like Bill Bennett.


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Posted by:

Bones

Pat Brennan: Everything was going along perfectly well in here until you decided to bring up Mr. Bennett. Why? Did he have something to do with the Band? You knew it would get a ton of comments.

Diamond Lil: Going back to your earlier post, I think there are fewer people who casually know Robbie. Rick and Levon were much more personable, so there are a lot of stories (which I love) in here that come from so-called friends. Quite frankly, when the Band reunited without Robbie, they did a great job of getting to know their fans. It was easier because of the small venues they were playing. They were just as friendly in their heyday, but they had more people "handling" them, which meant less access to them. Robbie, however, seemed much more private. Interestingly, Robbie is friendlier and more approachable today than he was back in their heyday.


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: I WANT MUSIC

Bill Bennet beng a creep means Bill Clinton is not? Bill Bennet bad guy means Castro good guy? I don't get the logic.. Sorry I swore I would only talk about music. Chris Smithers is good. Anything by the Blasters


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Wilco

Tony: Director Sam Evans filmed a documentary about Wilco, entitled "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart". What started out as a chronicle of the recording of "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot", also captured a behind-the-scenes look of a group in turmoil, as their record company (Reprise) balked at releasing their album. The camera also candidly captured the clashes between Jeff Tweedy & Jay Bennett during the recording sessions that led to the latter's dismissal. I highly recommend the recently released DVD version of this documentary, which includes an additional bonus disc of performances.


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Posted by:

Tony

Todd: thanks for the wilco corrections, Farrar was in Son Volt!! duh! Bennet released a solo album last year, right? Any idea why he was fired? I recently picked up Tupelo's remastered "Anodyne" great CD, considered their "masterpiece", couple of covers included in the bonus tracks. On a related note, wasn't Max johnston in wilco at one point and now in Fast Eddie's fav band, The Gourds (applause follows)????

BTW Roz: "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" the Gonzo guru said that, Hunter S., and I agree on this wonderful Cinco de Mayo celebration (slurp, slurp)....


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Posted by:

David Powell

Subject: Walker Evans

John D: Having lived in rural Georgia, I've always been fascinated by the photography of Walker Evans. A quarter century after those photos were taken, scenes like those he captured so accurately, were still commonplace in the rural South. When I was growing up, so little had changed; only the automobiles were different. Even to this day, although many of us have moved away from rural routes, less than an hour's drive in any direction from Atlanta you can still find scenes straight out of a Walker Evans photograph.


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Posted by:

John W.

Web: My link

Sad to see, The Old Man of the Mountain in New Hampshire has collapsed and is now a thing of the past. Anyone who ever saw this natural rock formation had to marvel at how human the face was.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois (where Daniel Lanois' Chicago show is sold out)

Subject: Tony, Pat, Susan

Tony, Pat, Susan or anyone else: Can you get me a Daniel Lanois ticket? edwardvoci.at.americaonline


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto
Web: My link

Subject: Saving Private Lynch

RE: What's true and what's not, I can't help but post the link above.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Spelling

That would be "photography." That's what I get for not using my "iespell" program for the internet. I now find it invaluable; unless I forget.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Walker Evans

David, thank you for your post on CMD as well as the photgraphy of Walker Evans. Please check out the link and look at the picture at the bottom of the page (featuring the Coca Cola sign. I took one look at it and grabbed my copy of the new Crusaders CD called "Rural Renewal" and by golly...... they are one in the same.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Couldn't Resist....Link for John W


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Empty Now

EN: I don't think you offended anyone and didn't mean to imply that. Language barrier, that's all! I was just teasing you.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines
Web: My link

Subject: Morning Morning

Thanks Bill: Being separated from my LPs has caused many a trauma. So "It Ain't Easy" is the one with one half produced by Elton John and one half produced by Rod Stewart right?

I vote for JTull Fan as new hall monitor.

If you don't like political cartoons DO NOT click on the link above.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Does anyone knows better about that singer (check the link please). First time i see him


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines
Web: My link

Subject: Coal Miner's Father & Daughter

In yesterday's N.Y. Times (5/4/03 Arts & Leisure), Stephanie Zacharek wrote a glowing review of the film "Coal Miner's Daughter", entitled "Loretta's Early Years, Tough as Ever". Ms. Zacharek praises director Michael Apted for his skill of breathing life into his biopic, a film genre that often paints a stale & lifeless portrait of its subject. Mr. Apted manages to get to the heart & soul of Loretta Lynn's music & her life, by getting down to not just her roots, but to capturing the "air" around her being, as well, according to Ms. Zacharek.

Ms. Zacharek describes Loretta Lynn's (Sissy Spacek) on screen father as "...the marvelous Levon Helm, whose face looks as if it were lifted straight out of a Walker Evans photograph". Let us all join in praise of these famous men. (Click on above link for a sample Walker Evans photograph) One can surely see the influence of Mr. Evans in the work Elliott Landy, who managed to capture the "air" around The Band in his own great photographs.


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Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Thanks to John D for reminding us of Robbie Robertson's time as a Scarberian. Oddly enough, despite all the words that've been said about his youth in Cabbagetown, I've seen no evidence that he ever lived in that area of town. His claims to have done so can't of course be dismissed out of hand, but a local musician only a couple years younger told me laughingly in '76 or '77 that Robertson and Peter Traynor used to claim they were from Cabbagetown, but weren't really. By the way, Robbie's departure from RH King pretty much coincided with his mother's (and presumably his own) arrival in Riverdale - so maybe he didn't quit school so much as transfer to Riverdale or Monarch Park Collegiate?

Richard: What I was trying to say was that the LJ Baldry album with "Don't Try To Lay No Boogie Woogie", which is titled "It Ain't Easy", also includes his version of "Morning Morning".

I picked up three interesting 45s on the weekend. "Steel Men" by the Debonairs from 1961 must be Canada's first calypso hit; Jimmy Dean turned it into a C&W hit, of all things. "The Ways Of A Woman" by Wilbert Harrison sounds an awful lot like the Hawks - but the other side so obviously features the guitar of Mickey Baker that I'm inclined to ask how come Baker is never listed - with Sumlin and Staples - as Robertson's great inspirations. "Coincidence" by Lawrence and the Arabians (on the Shout label) sounds just like Al Kooper, which is why I bought it; trouble is, I can't now find anything in his book that would've led me to suspect this. Thoughts?


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Posted by:

John W.

1. OK, so Bill Bennett is a hypocrite, always was something creepy about that guy. But that does not mean the basic message he has been saying is wrong. He merely pointed out that we are losing our compass of moral direction, as illustrated by a society so accepting of our former President who lied under oath, whose fellatio oriented intern is now hosting a reality show called Mr. Personality. You can't shoot the messenger. If a person tells you that you have a drinking problem, it does not make the statement wrong just because you can point out that they are a junkie.

2. Why all the surprise that the "dust is settling" around the Dixie Chicks? Nobody except a few idotic extremists ever said they should be "banned" or put death threats on them. They have free speech just like everyone else. Some of us felt they said the wrong thing, in the wrong place, at the wrong time, and we had every right to call them on it. They took a spanking over it, now let's move on! It almost seems like lefties are surprised we are all not a bunch of intolerant blacklisting McCarthyites!

3. I am hearing a lot of talk suggesting that since the U.S. has not uncovered any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, they must not exist. Well we have not caught Saddam Hussein yet either, does that mean he does not exist either?


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Location: « illinois », where all the church bells are ringing and the mosque muezzins are singing, and the Reggae is still living

Lexical P.S. for my last post : in Spanish, cante = singing, i heard some of them on the tune of « When a man loves a woman » Percy Sledge, some have actually a sweet voice

Jtull : Sorry if i offended anyone, including Mr Viney, let’s vote for the who’s who of the GB, including the Bloody Sunday (Yesterday)

Ed : waiting for a feedback


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Belville and God

God came thru Belville Georgia
He was ridin' on the noon-day train
It's all power to Him and Praise His Holy Name
But He never got off of the train
No He never got of of that train !!

Tony thanks for the sweet little words yesterday...


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Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Location: Connecticut

Subject: Wilco/Son Volt

Actually, it was Jay Farrar who was in Uncle Tupelo with Jeff Tweedy and went on to form Son Volt. Jay Bennet joined Wilco for their second album "Being There" which was named after the Peter Sellers film. Jay Bennet was fired from Wilco during the Mixing of "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot"

Uncle Tupelo's original four albums have just been remastered and reissued complete with bonus tracks. I'm currently enjoying the all acoustic / live in the studio U.T. album "March 16-20, 1992" which was recorded during the five days in the title, and produced by Peter Buck of REM. To fans of real music and musicians such as "The Band" I reccomend this album very highly. There are three photos in the CD's booklet of Jeff Tweedy with Garth, Rick and Levon. Uncle Tupelo toured together in 1992 with The Band, Michelle Shocked, and Taj Mahal.

While Wilco is from Chicago, they have their roots in Belleville, Illinois, a "farm-belt" town about 45 minutes southeast of St. Louis, Missouri.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois (from where Wilco/ Uncle Tupelo hail, Roz)
Web: My link

Subject: Casino Democracy

Bennett has lost more money gambling than the leading Dumbocrat has raised to run for President of the United States. The above link is a Miami Herald article updating the cash register totals for the 2004 casino royale payout and how the campaign money racket is now selecting a Tweedledum for us (well,"you" actually; I will not vote as a matter of principle).

Rollie, I forgot to thank you for your kind gesture of nominating me for President a couple of months ago after I posted the Iraq War IQ Quiz. I gladly step aside for Brennan/Pence lottery ticket.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennnan

It should be noted that David Herbert Donald took a load of crap from a bunch of historians for helping Gore Vidal on the latter's "Lincoln", part of that author's incredible series chronicling US history.


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Posted by:

TONY

Location: chicago

Subject: wilco/ this train

Rosalind: Didn't know the origin of the name, thanks. If you're interested, Wilco is from Chicago, pretty much the brain child of Jeff Tweedy and his ever revolving group of musicians. All their albums are worth checking out. Originally, Tweedy was in Uncle Tupelo with Jay Bennett, when they broke up in '93(?) Bennett went on to form Son Volt (another good band). Please anyone add anything if I've left it out or got it wrong. Anyway, all three bands made/make great music in the roots/alt-country/punk vein.

And another thing: there's nothing like seeing Bruce and the E-streeters live all harmonizing on that song.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Paul's last post

Paul, I could not agree with your last post more, both in your assessment of Lincoln and David Herbert Donald's truly great book. EMPTY NOW: This is something worth seeking for you.


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Posted by:

paulg

Web: My link

Subject: Wine?

Wine? Was surprised to find the name: 'Catawba' Wine in a book: 'Lincoln by David Herbert Donald'. We used to be able to buy it for $2.98 plus tax. Of course it cost a lot more from the Bootlegger on the weekend. It also gives a facinating look at the challenges faced by Mr. Lincoln leading up to and during the Civil War.' Naturally makes one relate better to TNTDODD. Another great add to my personal 'Lincoln library' I find Lincoln was not only a great American, but a man for all seasons and all nations.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Brennan and Wine

Pat, sorry. Neglected your wine content. I transgressed this weekend because my favorite wine store was having a tasting of Italian wines when I walked in after work on Friday. Had an excellent Sangiovese and Pinot Grigio (which paired excellently with yesterday's Key Lime Pie)You are correct about excellent Blue Ridge wines, where there are an abundance of micro-climates to add variety to the local industry. I highly recommend Villa Appalacia (Southwestern VA, or 'Up the Valley', given the backwards nomenclature)next time you are in the area.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Tracy R's Site

Tracy R. Just a reminder not to fall into the trap of "other people's bio's. BEG will back me up on this that everyone forgets that Robertson did not live exclusively in Cabbagetown. He also lived in Scarborough, a Toronto east suburb where I believe he dropped out of High School during his Grade 9 year at R.H. King. R.H. King was a principal there for 32 years therefore it was named after him in 1954; after being Scarborough High School since 1922.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: 7, 11, or doubles

Pat, I'm not going to defend Bill Bennett because I never was in his corner. My comments were strictly based on the political content. Empty Now: You are going to give Viney a run for his money as the GB 'reference book'.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Something to say

Peter Viney : There is always something to say. Don’t you realize that everybedy is waiting for your final report on « The Bells » and « Stars & Bars » ?

Jtull : I dont remember if Mary Chesnut was evoked before. I spent the 14 stand-by hours of the GB reading the link. Super. I hope it will interest Mr Ed Voci. I also found an equal length document from an « Eye witness of Civil War » in Arkansas, it’s more Levon related, i dont remember the author’s name. I didnt post it, it seems tendencious, something like a « secret society propaganda » and it also evokes the bells. The Net is really rich on the topic…btw…i found something cute : An English Skills Course in a Japanesse site written by a certain Dan Sean (Fred ?) titled « A song for learning English, TNTDODD », some words like Danville…are in Hypertext Link for more details…i didnt link it because it imposes you to download Kanji characters….etc…… Jtull, Thanks for your interest

Something special, Politics-Culture:

Question : Do you know the origin of the name of Alicante (a city in Spain) ?
Answer : The first muezzin of the mosque was called Ali

In the country where i’m in, there is an attempt of inserting in the civil society some former terrosits who gived-up the struggle « The Repented ». The totale forgive, the peace, inspired from both Chilean and South-African models…
I saw a « Café de Bob » pannel recently oppend. It belongs to some « Repented ». I enterred to take a coffee just for curiosity. The man with a perfect UBL Afgan look looked at me with my perfect 70’s long hair look (i never leaved it)….. …All in the interior is dedicated to Bob Marley…..Non-stop music tunes, Red-Gold-Green anywhere,..etc….I belived that Music was a sin for that people…That’s what i call a democracy

Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
Cause none of them can stop the time
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look
Some say it's just a part of it
We've got to fullfill the book

Have a Good Day Everybody


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

I just love Richard's performance on "I Shall Be Released", on "Before The Flood". It just seems to me that The Band was hitting on all cylinders that night. Anyone with me on that?

I was BSing with a friend the other day, and I found out that he has a mint vinyl copy of that Neil Young "On The Beach" album that came up in here awhile back. Needless to say, I borrowed it and burned a CD of it. Side one is great - side two is OK. I knew the tune "Walk On", which is one of my favorite NL songs.


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: ...But on the other side, it didn't say nothin'! That side was made for you and me!

This train is Bound for Glory this train (this trian)
This train is Bound for Glory this train (this train)
This trian is Bound for Glory
Don't ride nothin' by the Righteous and the Holy
This train is Bound for Glory this train

This train don't carry no gamblers this train (this train)
This train don't carry no gamblers this train (this train)
This train don't carry no gamblers no liars thieves no midnight ramblers
This train is Bound fo Glory this traaaain____ heading on down_______________________


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Posted by:

Rollie

Subject: I see politics is still in favor here in the GB so.......

Bush Administration Now Doubts Saddam Had WMD By Neil Mackay The Sunday Herald - UK 5-5-3 The Bush administration has admitted that Saddam Hussein probably had no weapons of mass destruction. Senior officials in the Bush administration have admitted that they would be 'amazed' if weapons of mass destruction (WMD) were found in Iraq. According to administration sources, Saddam shut down and destroyed large parts of his WMD programmes before the invasion of Iraq. Ironically, the claims came as US President George Bush yesterday repeatedly justified the war as necessary to remove Iraq's chemical and biological arms which posed a direct threat to America. Bush claimed: 'Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. We will find them.' The comments from within the administration will add further weight to attacks on the Blair government by Labour backbenchers that there is no 'smoking gun' and that the war against Iraq -- which centred on claims that Saddam was a risk to Britain, America and the Middle East because of unconventional weapons -- was unjustified. The senior US official added that America never expected to find a huge arsenal, arguing that the administration was more concerned about the ability of Saddam's scientists -- which he labelled the 'nuclear mujahidin' -- to develop WMDs when the crisis passed. This represents a clearly dramatic shift in the definition of the Bush doctrine's central tenet -- the pre-emptive strike. Previously, according to Washington, a pre-emptive war could be waged against a hostile country with WMDs in order to protect American security. Now, however, according to the US official, pre-emptive action is justified against a nation which simply has the ability to develop unconventional weapons. http://www.sundayherald.com/33628


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

BTW, jtullfan, that was one fantastic bit you tossed up there. Being able to toss off Bill Bennett's enormous hypocrisy with an expertly above-it-all "who cares? not moi" but rising with righteous indignation at my supposed transgression took some work. Get that Rapidan Wine out of your system and work your way up to Fauquier or Loudoun. I've heard its better closer to the Blue Ridge.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

And, Ray, good link. Balance in the media. How odd.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Jtullfan, in your eagerness to defend your political pals, you may have missed the point that my post had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with moralistic hypocrisy. Except for my entreaty that Bennett's equally stupid scions of morality apply the same standards to one of their own. I assume, since they are all broadcasters, that they are impartial.

Ray, thanks, but being a social anarchist, a fiscal conservative, an Eisenhower supporter of the military and enemy of the military-industrial complex, I doubt that I'd fit the mold. But I could kill any of these bozos--Dem or Repub or whatever--in a debate, just by quoting Bob Dylan.

Roz, if heaven is filled with people who take the Bible literally, you know, people who quote Leviticus to say slavery is fine, touching pigskin will earn you damnation, kill your neighbors if they're adulterers, and other such nonsense, I'll assume I'm not wanted. But I doubt God is there either.


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Posted by:

Ray Pence

Web: My link

Subject: Dixie Chicks Vindicated/Mr. Brennan

See the above link for a representative story about the Dixie Chicks, on the road again, bringing it all back home, beloved by fans...

I like seeing Pat B. fired up! The Democratic party could use someone who doesn't pull any punches and is willing to mix it up like the knife-fighters on the right. (How about it Pat, the Democrats need a 10th candidate for the nomination, what do you think??)

When William Bennett hasn't been making me laugh, he's been making me queasy with his sanctimonious lecturing for the last 15 years...

personally, the gambling doesn't bother me at all. but since Bennett presents himself as a champion of moral absolutes, it's fascinating to see him rationalize his wagering...okay, I get it...if you're a blue collar person you're probably pissing away your family's food money if you gamble, but since Bill has elephantine lines of credit at big casinos (those are palaces of morality, naturally), it's okay...just sort of a hobby, you see...

nor does it surprise me that Bill was caught red-handed...he has a history of hypocrisy...when he was Bush's Drug Czar he was also a chainsmoker of the deadliest drug in this nation...he foamed at the mouth about the immorality of rock and roll in the late 80s but his kind of rock and roll in the 50s and 60s was okay...he dated Janis Joplin (nothing wrong with that of course, just strange for him to want to deny succeeding generations their share of wild oats)...

bottom line--Bill Bennett is the Head Honcho for Republicans that preach Life Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, but only for certain select people...

if I find out he likes the Band I'll ease up on him a bit, but I'm sure he wouldn't resist pontificating about the lessons we could learn from the Band's drug alcohol and promiscuity festivals...


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Posted by:

rosalind

Mrs Henry is absolutely right! I don't know where Wilco hail from, since I don't know anything about the music except I like it okay. Haven't read a music magazine since I picked up "the Levon Helm American hero" issue of the Rolling Stone back a couple of years ago ( I saw it at our local CVS pharmacy) I was watching the movie "Nashville" a few weeks ago and spotted the word "wilco" written on the side of a building in one of the first scenes in the picture, the one where the pile-up of cars headed out to safer grownds. Next time you look at Nashville, check out the scenery. WILCO.

Hey Pat You ain't gonna git to hebben spouting abominations like that one so you best taste everything sinful this ol' world has to offer before leavin'. At least earn your trip. Okie Doke Boy?


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Empty Now's post and Brennan the hypocritical

Empty Now, thanks for the link (which must hold the GB record for the MOST lengthy link ever!)Mary Chesnutt is a wonderful, important source. Now, Mr. Brennan, I must take you to political task. I preface it to say I have never been a Bennett-ite, and really take little interest in his personal problems. Losing 8 million gambling is a huge mistake, but I couldn't care less. HOWEVER, you have chimed in repeatedly evertime politics rears its' head out here with a Mr. Bill-like 'Oh, nooooo! Politicsssssss! You are going to ruin the GB. Stop! Stooooopppppp!!!!!' Well, if you don't like Bill Bennett and think he is an a**wipe, fine. Like I said, that in and of itself is not an issue that matters anything to me. BUT, Mrs. Henry's post is as blatantly political as anything posted here recently, and without prior provocation. And what do you do? Rather than issue the same 'Red alert! Red alert! Political post!' alarm that you do when said post is of a republican, or conservative leaning, you jump right on the bandwagon. Shame on you! Shame on you not for your personal opinions, but shame on you for how you unevenly apply your standards of acceptable GB political posts. You are a better man than that, and I expected better. Please tell me it was the Chilean wine you were imbibing....


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

BTW, was this repugnant idiot Bill Bennett gambling while serving the government? Couldn't our sworn enemies have blackmailed this swine because of his immoral behavior? Ken Starr, what are you up to these days? Need some work?

John Gibson, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Ruch Limpbaugh, please stand up and help save the moral fiber of our stricken country.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Yup, it's why self-appointed moralists like Bill Bennett are so repugnant. This asswipe has the gall to say that gambling is not a vice because he can control it, even though he has lost millions of dollars enjoying it. The application of Bennett's argument to any untoward behavior is indeed interesting in that heroin use would be fine as long as the person "handled it" okay. Sure, Bill, how about marijuana use, which you have railed against. Is that okay if the users "handle it" okay? As most of them do. Hypocritical asswipe.

In direct opposito was last night's Flaming Lips' performance at the Riviera in Chicago. Brilliant, humane, hilarious, thought-provoking, did I say brilliant? Anyone who sees this group of geniuses live and doesn't enjoy themselves thoroughly is insane. Easily one of the best shows I've ever seen, and I've seen a few.

Bill Bennett, and all you blue-nosed dipshits who quote the Bible, go f*ck yourselves.


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Posted by:

Mrs. Henry

Location: Brownsville, Girl

Subject: Wilco Gas Stations (&Oil)

Wilco picked up their name from a regional Southern US chain of gas stations (or petrol shops for those in the UK).

And speaking of gasoline, I just heard that a "retired American oil executive" will be one of the appointed heads of the new Iraqi Ministry of oil. I wonder if O.J. Simpson will be appointed to find those weapons of mass destruction there. Maybe William Bennett could help him out. He needs the cash since the news broke that he's lost over $8 Million while gambling the last few years. I never saw gambling listed in Bennett's books of "virtues." He's such a moral man compared to the "evil Bill Clinton,' though. There are a lot of inner city and rural American kids who could have used some of those millions to support their gutted school budgets, though.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Something better to do?

Just checked in. Saw Jan had run a test presumably because no one had posted for an unprecedented 14 hours … then EN two hours later … then silence. Maybe we all finally found something better to do at last! I haven't got anything to say either …


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: Ed Voci

Check the link please, it is question of Chime, carillon, joy-bell, alarm bell, Graham Bell....

in Page 377, Richmond falls


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Posted by:

jh

Subject: GB test

1, 2, 3. Testing. Testing.


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Posted by:

BANDFAN

Web: My link

Subject: NEW MUSIC THREAD

IF YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THIS RADIO STATION DOWN CLOSE TO AUSTIN GIVE IT A LISTEN. PLAYS A LOT OF KEVIN WELCH, BUDDY MILLER, STEVE EARLE ETC. IF THE LINK DOESN'T WORK THE ADDRESS IS WWW.KNBTFM.COM/LIVERADIO.HTML

KEVIN


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Posted by:

Sheila

Location: Fayetteville, AR

Subject: Gin n' Juice done bluegrass?!

Catching up on today's posts and ran across all the talk about Gin n' Juice done bluegrass style. WOW! That is one song I'm gonna have to catch. I love Snoop Dogg's version w/ Dre and I adore bluegrass music so it oughta be quite a listen. I look forward to it. I'm also glad to read that other people have broad musical tastes like I do. I listen to just about everything except today's pop. Anyone can have my share of Britney and the boy bands.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois, but wished I caught this show in NYC

Subject: The Gourds

"The Gourds: Village Underground - New York, NY (April 3, 2003)

I was a casual fan before that fateful Thursday night show. Certainly their incredible musicianship was always undeniable. Yet, while walking away from this performance it was tough to put a finger on exactly what it was that the Gourds did so damn well. Everything? Well... yeah.

The Gourds make it easy to realize why it’s completely unnecessary to lump bands into any single genre because it is impossible to categorize them. However, what is probably most impressive is their combination of raw talent, enthusiasm, sense of adventure, merry prankster mannerisms and just how effortlessy they have a total blast onstage. Another thing that seems abundantly clear- the soul still feels good for at least a few days following a Gourds gig.

Instead of listing all the songs or instruments they played, it seems much more fitting to simply point out that Kevin Russell, Jimmy Smith, Claude Bernard, Keith Langford and Max Johnston are the Gourds. They are a band from Austin, TX, and they are capable of kicking your ass without ever plugging in an electric guitar. Though the Gourds may blatantly ignore Mayor Bloomberg’s newly mandated smoking ban, they break his laws without your typical belligerence or disrespect.

If you have any appreciation whatsoever for innovative roots music that doesn't take itself too seriously, the Gourds are an absolute “must see” show whenever they come nearby. They will earn your money, and they will make you smile. (Mike Sweeney)

Published: April 29, 2003"


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Posted by:

Dark Lord

Web: My link

This is great website. everyone should go here :]


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Posted by:

tony

Subject: Roz trivia

Well don't keep us waiting Roz....

"May twelve angels guard you
while you sleep
maybe that's a waste of angels I don't know
I'd do anything to kep you safe
from the danger that surrounds us"


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Posted by:

JTF

Location: Richmond

Subject: Voci:

I'm trying out my 'Junior Soprano' act. That way I can just act senile when everyone gets mad at me out here. :) (Must have actually had to work that day back in January)


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Posted by:

roz

Subject: Wilco

Trivia - Does anyone know where "Wilco" got their name? Maybe I do.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Harsh about Dylan?

Apologies. I Think I just did a Pete Seeger / Moon struck One / The doors post. BUT it was really my thoughts on exposing young kids to current Dylan - no, I wouldn't do it. I'd definitely expose them to 60s and 70s Dylan, but the voice is so far shot now, and his constant repetitive guitar solos so irritating when better players are standing a yard away, that you have to love his music deeply (as I do) to get past the current presentation. But he does still have charisma. But he shouldn't play lead guitar. Ever. Play them Visions of Johanna with Robbie's perfect playing, not the current stuff.


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Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Helpless / Dylan

Regular readers may recall that I listen to BBC’s Desert Island Discs on Friday mornings – about the only radio I listen to now. Last week was a professor who discovered both anti-histamine and the pill. He was 80 years old, going on 30. His music selection was all that I loathe most- operatic leider. Then he said his next choice was a record he’d never heard – a first for the programme, but he was choosing it because Neil Young was a close friend and immediate neighbour, and it was getting embarrassing after 30 years never to have heard any of his music. Their ranches adjoin each other. They played a live solo Helpless- not sure where it was from. He said afterwards it wasn’t his cup of tea, but he was happy because he could now tell Neil how much he had enjoyed it. Maybe this shows that musical taste isn't the be-all and end-all.

Bob Dylan – yes, two good recent ones, but given that desert island decision, any one of Highway 61 Revisited, Blonde on Blonde, Blood on The Tracks or Street Legal OR you can have everything recorded after Street Legal, I’d have to go for one of the first four. Desire is a close runner-up. Well, I guess a lot of pre-78 stuff is a runner-up.


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Posted by:

Pete T

Location: NH

Subject: Calvin and Pop Music

Calvin, You are so right. There is so much great music being produced now. This is a golden time for "our kind of music" You have to look harder to find it, but it is there and needs support. Dave Alvin, Billy Kerthen, Buddy Miller, The Hombres, plus the younger guys like Wilco and the like Its there. I love the old stuff, The Band,as great as it will always be, is 30 years old. Time to find more music out there. Pop music is for kids, took me a while to figure that out, it was not made for me, so of course I dont like it much. I did not like the pop music when I was a kid, funny now when I hear pop music from when I was a kid I like it. The big money thing is kind of changing in the music businss, they kind of ate themselves with stuff like Michael Jackson spending 60 mill on a record that sold 2 million copys. The music that we all love and cherish wont sell a ton anymore, it becomes a real labor of love for the people playng it. So they need support where they can get it. I hate to think of this government cutting support for public radio, along with other things (Ben, I am not getting political anymore, because I realize how full of shit I am) So when these bands come out to play in your town go see them if you can, I do as much as I can and I buy their CD's as much as I can. To me its like when the Big Band thing started to die, Its just a change in tide, But the tide is still high with this Americana, Roots Music and It can grow, just won't top the charts again. So Calvin, I think you hit it on the head


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Posted by:

Tony

Location: chicago

Subject: Calvin, Pat Brennan and his lips of fire

One more thing Calvin: you talked about the good old days, well, I wasn't around for those days, I missed the boat unfortunately, so these are my good days and seems like they're filled wth exactly the kind of low grade record industry puppetry that Brian SZ just talked of. Now I knowthere's stuff out there, but I just want more young people out there to be as enlightened as all of you!!!Perfect example of what we're talking about, Ryan Adams (not Brian) is a fairly newcomer (formerly of Whiskeytown) and i heard he's thinking of stopping making music becuase the industry is just so exhaustingly hell bent on the almighty dollar rather than the "integrity" of the artist. Ah screw it, I'm just gonna go out and buy the new Christina Aguilera album and get an Eminem T-shirt, dye my hair blond, maybe then i'll be cool.

Pat: Is that Lips show sold out? if so let me know how it goes, thanks.


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Posted by:

Tony

Location: the tree out on the front lawn (it's not safe yet on the ground, John D.)

Subject: calvin/kalervo thanks, BEG and Ben Harper, Amanda &Empty: Desire

Calvin and Kalervo: Thanks for the tips. Listen, my post was a little disconnected. I love newer music, wilco, earle, etc.., I also love a lot of world music & more obscure stuff, Manu Chao, I'm always open to new sounds. I just meant that for me in my situation (I am a twenty something)it's hard to find others who feel the same way. That's why this GB is a nice outlet, other people receptive to music that isn't cookie-cutter B.S. In my age group I feel like a minority, someone who is willing to give new music a try, but I don't want overly-commercial crap and I do have the patience and understanding to listen to music with substance. It's just frustrating, hope this makes sense, I do appreciate your help.

Brown Eyed Girl, I love Ben Harper. Here's a guy with real passion, real inspiring soulful music, not a lot of frills. His cover of "Drugs Don't Work" is breathtaking and if you haven't you should listen to his cover of Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing", makes me tingle. I agree his voice is one of few modern voices that can compare to Marley's...one more...listen to "Welcome to the Cruel World" incredibly mournful but sooo beautiful

Amanda and Empty, I thought I should be another to sing the praises of Desire. When I was a teen and first exposed to "Sara", I used to date a girl with the same name, I think mostly because I loved the song so much. dylan never sounded better (his voice) than on that album. You can take Hurricane off of that album (the song most people associate with it) and it's still phenomenal. Seems like Bob was really enjoying making music in that period.


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Posted by:

Brien Sz

Subject: Present Day Music

Shortly after New Years, my wife and I were watching either VH-1 or MTV and they were doing a "the year in music" re cap of the top 50 or 100 songs of 02. Half was rap and rap just makes me laugh. A quarter was Boy band and Britnyesque type stuff and the other quarter was rock. It must be age, because finally seeing the faces to the voices, I was under the impression that Creed wrote a lot of hits (and Creed to me is a poormans Pearl Jam) It actually turned out that Creed only wrote about 3 or 4 of the songs and all these other, chord playing only bands, were the rest. I was kind of stunned at the absolute melding and lack of distinctive sound there was out there. Maybe that's why a band like White Stripes causes such a commotion because their sound is so counter to what is out there and it rocks!


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Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: BEG, Noah

BEG: Thanks for the photo's/stills. they are fantastic, they remind me of Francis Bacon paintings. great great stuff, the finest photos of RR I've seen in a while.

Noah: they played that movie here last week on local tv. Since i refuse to do cable i know crappy local tv like the back of my hand, and the innocuouis jibber jabber of movies like that keep me company while I work. I did look up at the screen when "Stuff You Gotta Watch" came on...Huh?! dat's my boys!

Lil i never met RR but I had a dream once that I bought a restaurant from him with a river running through and an old fashioned paddlewheel mill in the back. Weird.


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Posted by:

Noah

Subject: Little Big League

Caught a bit of a crappy baseball movie "Little Big League". They used "Stuff you gotta watch" from Jericho in a sequence

Anyone know about this?

Noah


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois

Subject: Bells, JTF (btw, JTF, "btw" stands for "by the way" and "JTF" stands for "JTullFan"), Mike D, BEG

JTullFan wrote: "I hadn't heard Voci's explanation of the cowbells before but it is plausible." I know you are acronyminally challaenged, but where do you get off not reading my shitt? First you support the fuggin' fascist war, then you fugged up on the BEG thing, and now I find out you didn't read my stuff on TNTDODD back in January? Jan, block out JTF right now. When aliens land in 2174 and read the archives I don't want them to think they were second to touch down. :-)

Mike D.: all I can say about Rare Earth's drummer is I was on stage with the guy 30 odd years ago. I'm happy I can remember that much. Thanks for the correction. And, searching my memory helped me correct something else. It was not a Wet Willie show that I was involved with, it was Blues Image. Again this is at UMass-Amherst 1971 or so. Maybe that drummer's name was Phil (I'm too lazy to check this stuff out before I post), but he was a cut up and just before I introduced them he came up to me and said, while giggling, "Tell them we're going to play all our hits right away!" As you may recall, Blues Image had one hit and one hit only: "Ride Captain Ride". So, there you have it, a another trip down my poor memory's lane.

BEG: I'm not sure whose or what version of "Gin 'n Juice" you've got, but here's my understanding of that song's history. First, Snoop Dogg wrote and recorded (with a little help from Dr. Dre) J&G as a slow, sultry rap song in 1993. At some point a hip-hop artist from NYC named "Phish", not to be confused with the jam band of the same name, recorded it. Kevin Russell learned the song when he was "hoboing around California" and The Gourds turned it into a super-kick-ass-mandolin-driven-new-grass number that they recorded on their first CD, "Gogetyershoeshinebox" (1998) later reissued by Sugar Hill (their current label) as "shinebox". Napster got ahold of an MP3 versions of the Gourds version mislabelled it as being done by "Phish" which most people believed was the jam band, Phish. This MP3 version was hugely traded/downloaded over the Net. Unbeknownst to The Gourds, The Dodge Motor Co. used it on one of its truck commercials. Snoop Dogg approved by joining dem boyz on it at some point. In any event, after you purchase Jeff Alexander's "School For Fools" and Emory Joseph's "Labor & Spirits", on both of which Levon plays, purchase "shinebox" with the original Gourd's version of "G&J". Accept no substitutes.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Web: My link

http://www.graveyards.com/oakwoods/confederate.html

Ed, I added the caveat because I agreed with your spelling.

I'm going to see Flaming Lips tonight. Almost no Band connection, except for me I guess.


Entered at Sat May 3 19:05:38 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Read in my last post:

The last posts of Mr Ben Pike and Mr Calvin are Cups of Magic

Sorry


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Suomi
Web: My link

Subject: Time after time

Look at the site: One of my real favorites, Maria McKee has just released a new album called High Dive.

Tony: MTV is not very good source of new music. It stinks.There are independent radios (for example Live 365 internet sources), magazines like Mojo, Source ...And world music sources are endless, so wonderful music, that it really makes me sad that we middle-aged people play it safe by listening old favorites for thousandth time instead making musical adventures.

Helena, Tony and others...oh yes I understand that the youth is generally even more one-sided than their parents. I have fought many years against this un-historic idiotism by writing and discussing...

Brown Eyed Girl:Oh yes Ben Harper is one of the best singer-songwriters today. He is even known here in Finland, which is something...And many thanks for Zach de la Rocha!...I have even seen Rage Against Machine live! And really dig especially Zach' s solo work. Some other members are nowadays in Audioslave with one of my favorite modern voices, Chris Cornell (Soundgarden). Audioslave will be in Provinssirock festival in Seinajoki (my birth town) next month...

Haa this message is full of American artists...And this Summer will be enormously rich with wonderful American artists, which I hopefully see:the jazz legend Kalaparush Maurice McIntyre, two weeks after it will Bruuuuuce on our Olympic stadium! finally in Finland, and two weeks after that event the sister in recovery and fiiine artist Bonnie Raitt, and Koko Taylor. Then two weeks perhaps the best known Finnish name in rock, Jorma Kaukonen in my favorite festival:Kaustinen Folk Music festival!.The wonderful Roots, my favorite rap band in Pori Jazz..And this is only surface....


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Amanda : You have all the merit of picking-up Desire in the GB, the recent posts are a ncup of Calvin Cup of Magic. Let me just disagree with your fear from Gossippng GBers, it made me supplement of effort and a laste of time.( puff.. in love with a posthumate). The GB allows me to be true, real to reach the bounds of affection and fair i didn’t in the real life…
(i talked about a sleeping barman…yes Jan, the quiet sleep of who made a feat of perfomance, and earned his right to rest and let the GB going by himself. Looking to the GB these days, every body loves somebody…i should say…loves everybody…a true Harem…and that’s exactly what i need…

Note : Gossip…by them i introduced a neologism in the GB… witch i unfortunately used for the first time talking to the only person who dont corresponds…BEG….i talked about the « Principal Attorney » it’s a composed exression of Principal (of the school) and District-Attorney (of the Court Law)….cross our finger …The Magic continues

I’m ashamed of not listing in my last title another of my prefered Saras in the GB, too recent here….Helena. Sorry, Glad to say that you brought a good breath, a second youth to The Band ……

Yes Ilkka…i heard you, but you never evoked Sara…..


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Response to Ben Part II

In the couple of minutes since I posted Kelly Willis, Buddy and Julie Miller, Tift Merrit and RHett Miller all came to mind. Frankly, and I dont mean to say you do this, I think sometimes we got so focused on buying that Hot Tuna album from 1974 we dont have, or completing our Rolling Stones COllection, or yet another Hendrix release that we lose focus new music is being produced. I myself own some 35 discs of Band/or solo Band members Bootlegs. I mean how many versions of The Weight do I need? I know a lot of my friends walk right by new releases hoping that 3rd Todd Rundgren's Utopia album that will complete their collection has finally appeared at Borders. FOr my money the 1st and 3rd Patty Griffin CDs have some of the most stunningly beautiful music Ive heard in years-her 2002 release (A Thousand Kisses) is incredible. Rhett Miller's CD from 2002 is more pure fun than anything Ive bought in ages. It is there.


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Posted by:

Paul g

Location: the promised land as Ronnie calls Canada
Web: My link

Subject: stuff

John John, names....I remember reading Serges bit about names. Guess I don't care either way as long as the nameless don't use the disquise to hurt people.

Got to talk with Sandy Helm on the Chat Room one night. That was extra great...she is such a Lady. I used 'skinny' then but don't go to the chat room much anymore.

Sad I can't post my email address. When people send you a virus, that is not my kinda fun.

Ok then, again my thanks to those who have helped me get back into music and playing. That is what got me into the radio industry...the MUSIC.

I don't play well, never have but it makes me feel happy. Working on 'Up On Cripple Creek' right now.

BTW I finally did it. Bought a new 6 string today. Its a Epiphone authorized by GIBSON and a copy of the J45. Nice match for my Gibson G45 12 string.Plays real nice and easy and has a great 'ring' to it. Thanks again everybody.

Bartender another scotch please. My playing is sounding better already. shineonpaulg


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Ben Pike's Answer

Ben, just off the top off my head, Patty Griffin, THe Old 97s, WIlco, Son Volt, Steve Earle, Patty LArkin, Ben HArper, The Indigo Girls, The Gourds, Norah Jones, Kasey Chapman. Now that is just an off the cuff response to your question, If I went home at looked at recent CDs, or just thought about it, I'm sure I could come up with a lot more people who have shown up in the last 10 or so years that I try not to miss a new release. And there are a lot more that Ive never heard of. Ya just have to look for them. There is a ton of good stuff out there-frankly probably more than ever because of all the small little labels that dont have to sell a lot to make a CD pay. Pick up a magazine called Paste. It is bi-monthly, runs $7.95 and includes a CD with usually about 20 cuts on it. Some new artists, the latest also included a cut from a Townes Van Zandt album that is newly released, it is a gold mine of new artists. All of the singer/songrwriter/folk/alt country vein. It is there Ben, in my opinion more of it than every before.


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Posted by:

Ben Pike

Location: Cleveland TX

Calvin. Yep, we do see the past with rose colored glasses, and there was bad music back in the day. Sorry, but that only begs the question, what is the quality music of TODAY? Sure, an old timer or two can sell O.K. stuff( I would challege you on what Dylan's best seller is, thou, DESIRE also went to number one) but are you seriously saying that there is as much stuff coming out worth a listen as in 73, 63, or 57? That, I would suggest, is seeing the present through rose colored glasses.


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Empty Now

I just saw your post--and you are right--Dylan's voice!


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Empty Now

Empty Now: The "Sara" post affected me because every song from "Desire" is important to a certain time in my life. The details are too personal for sharing. The fact that you took so much time with a Dylan song captures the essence of why his music is so significant to many people. Bob Dylan is such a maestro of charade but, "Sara" is so sincere--Dylan shows true courage. I am not saying that every song Dylan has written isn't sincere--just that "Sara" is particularly honest. I believe you too showed true courage when you genuinely shared your attachment to such vulnerable songwriting. Now--I must stop with all the gushy stuff--the GBers will gossip and think I'm in love with you--really, I just admire your self awareness and fearlessness to communicate. Of course--I am all girl--and I think it's sweet that a man wrote such a song of love. ;o) BTW, I am seeing Dylan in concert on Tuesday night.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Ed V: I'm laughing here...'cause I just downloaded "Gin 'N' Juice" by The Gourds. It's the same song as the one that was sent to me by Cupid......by Soggy Bottom Boys. LOL... Oh well....Once I downloaded a song (can't remember name) and I got "Desolation Row" in Italian instead.....BTW..I like the lyrics to "March Of Death" but I don't like it musically....The only songs that I consistently really like by Zach de la Rocha and Rage Against The Machine are..."Maggie's Farm", "Guerrilla Radio"...Now there's a song to wake up in the morning....;-D...Zach is like Marley but raps....But I would love to hear him sing a ballad....even just once. While Garland Jeffreys sings in the spirit of Marley but is more rock and soul....Check out "Guts For Love" sometime.

Kalervo...Another younger artist that sings in the spirit of Marley but is much more willing to share his sensitive side is Ben Harper...Powerful performance at one of Bob Marley's Birthday Celebrations singing "Get Up Stand Up" with one of Bob's sons Ky-Mani....The only Marley song that I can still remember seeing Bob sing at Maple Leaf Gardens in the late seventies.......Check out Ben's "Walking On An Angel", "Walk Away", "The Drugs Don't Work", "Another Lonely Day', "I Shall Not Walk Alone", "Oppression" and "Stealing Kisses" and......


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Amanda, Brown Eyed Girl, Rosalind, Sara, Shirley

Rectification, My Apologies

After my recent posts, I took the resolution to re-listen to Sara in Desire album. Please forget all my posts on the topic, including the former first.

I dont need neither "objective reason", nor "song analysis", nor "psychyatric advice" to listen non stop to that song for the next 10 years, i forgot Dylan's voice

Sorry

BEG: as i read your post after writing: Thanks for the feedback, the link of TRolling Stones too long to come....


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Brennan/Voci, Bells

Pat, your link didn't work. I look forward to seeing it. I hadn't heard Voci's explanation of the cowbells before but it is plausible. Ringing of bells also connotates endings and beginnings, so in an artistic sense I think it is a great line in the song given its' multiple interpretations. Just like the discussion we had about 'stampeding cattle, they rattle the wall's'. I never posted on that and sorry I didn't, because I always interpreted that line non-literally. The stampeding cattle to me represents repressed emotions let loose, and once out of the bottle, they fly out of control of the individual, who is unable to repress them once again. And the 'rattle the walls' part representing how that individual is so overcome by them that they interfere with his perceptions and ability to find peace even in sleep.


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Posted by:

Calvin

Subject: Faulty Memories make for pleasant rants

It's fun to think otherwise but music when we all were young, or in the Band's heyday for instance, had just as little "integrity" as it does now. Someone mentioned that a trip to a Dylan concert should be mandatory for kids today, not needed-he is more popular now than he ever was. His 2 recent albums are his best sellers ever, first Bob Album's to ever go No. 1 on the charts. People tend to forget that when the Band was putting it out's first couple efforts the biggest group in the world was the Monkees, or one of those years Sugar, Sugar by the Archies was the No. 1 single. Popular RnR has always been mainstream trifles-that hasnt changed.

The "good old days" had top selling music that sucked as much as the top selling music today-our wonderfully selective memory has chosen to forget-and for the most part Classic Rock radio has weeded out the garbage as the years went on-but that only makes sense-something actually has to resonate to, well, resonate.

I remain just Calvin.


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Kalervo...Ray Pence...Ed V...See above...Some people rant...Some people continue to rage.......

Empty Now: Some of Bukowski's characters remind me of why I was drawn to Louuu in the first place. But with Louuu he always shows you that there is always a bit of light trying to peep through. I understand seeing the light better via Louuu than Plato.

Btw..."Gin and Juice"...Cupid sent me a bluesgrass version from Soggy Bottom Boyzzzz.

I confess I'm a collector of quotes

Live your life
As if you were creating a work of art
Put those things you find
Most beau...ti...ful in it


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: The Long Riders

Fade in ... middle of poker game in crowded saloon
Whore walks across floor and sits down on chair beside Cole Younger and smiles .. Cole smiles back.

Cole Younger: Do you still charge fifteen dollars?
Cole's favorite whore: Yeah (smiling)
Cole: ( raring back in chair and looking down at his hand with a detached grin) Ain't nothin' worth that price
Whore: Well, I'll make it $12.50 seeings how you're just about to go broke
Cole: (looking down and counting his cash) .. Only got eleven ...Lets cut for it.

Cards are cut, She wins with an ace over a king and gets out of her chair to leave, turns back with a grin ..

Whore: Coleman Younger, You feel free to call on me when your luck changes

Cole watches as she leaves and look over at his much younger brother Bob who's smiling to himself and playing with the chips on the table

Cole: Women .... (strong silence)....love 'em

Bobby and Cole share a grin and continue with the game.

I simply cannot resist quoting dialogue when a movie is brought up in this place.


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Posted by:

Mike D.

Subject: Ed Voci

Incidentally, the drummer for Rare Earth's name was Peter Rivera. Not sure where you got the name Phil from :)


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Posted by:

Frank

Thanks everyone who gave me leg up with my query about the origins of the word ''CHEYENNE'' .. sorry i bothered now. goin to a wedding today, will endeavour to create the situation wereby i can do my best Dennis Quaid [The Long Riders] and say ''it,s time to get to the dancin'' ...think The Hawk leaving the stage at the LAST WALTZ .. great news on Fayetteville,s finest, could,nt be happier for him.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Al Edge - for exorcising it definitively

just re-reed your post, You get it right "Guess some things do that to you now and again". One reality, i finally accepted, Amongst the world opinion and Every where i been in Eur, "WE" are the most blamed and violently criticized, not "YOU". i know you will understand.....Please dont leave the GB


Entered at Sat May 3 11:38:48 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Shhh…This GB is too good

If i were sure that only the posters are lurking, i will post my complete CV, including my tribe and my clan…

Roz (sorry for name caling) The words of Bukowski (sorry Ray) are a storm of Heart-Mind feelings, nowehere else i raad something like that…Please more poems….Amanda :sure that cant be a valid reason for listening Sara during 4 years just for the ordinary madness….Brown Eyed Girl =B E G : always waiting :::)

Al : Oofffff…..Ed : That was evident Sinior

Who can explain these days serenity of the GB i evoked recently….the same serenity of the bar late in the night, when the band is gone, and we remains between insomniac intimates, while the barman sleeps…..(again Bukowski)


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Names

Okay ... First I posted with my middle name "Patricia"...she bombed out. Then I posted as Jarp-Transient ...Jarp r-e-a-l-l-y bit the dust. Chief Webmaster threatened to sic the Internet Task Force on Jarp. Then I posted as "Ironweed". I liked ironweed, she summed up my personality. Then as "two-spirit" If you know anything about Native American languages you know what two-spirit means. Fun Fun Fun! Then I went away for a good long time and slinked back in using my real first name, Rosalind. Rosalind does not raise much hell ..

Anthony - This is for you. This song has helped carry me thru a many of bad days and nights, but sometimes on a real bad night it reminds me of a carrot on the end of a stick...

Smile when your heart is aching
Smile even tho it's breaking
When there are clouds in the sky
You'll get by .. if you
Smile thru your fear and sorrow
Smile and may-be tomorrow
You'll see the sun come shining thru
For you
Light up your face with gladness
Hide every trace of sadness
Altho a tear may be ever so near
That's the time you must keep on trying
Smile what's the use of crying
You'll find that life is still worth-while
If You'll Just Smile .."

- Charlie Chaplin -

Now if I could only type those feet and that walking stick ...thanks Charlie ...you wrote my very favorite lulabye.. good-night Charlie.. Good-night Rossie ..sweet dreams...( Charlie and I have long talks ..nobody understands me like the little Tramp..


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: Leon Russell

Tony: go see Leon. His shows can be hit or miss these days, but the price is usually right and his material is hard to beat. Of course, Leon is a legend who should be in the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame, but--like Al Kooper, Johnny Rivers and others--does not get the recognition he deserves. There are lots of Leon Russell connections to The Band, the big one being a major Bob Dylan connection. Another musician who has worked with Leon and The Band is Bruce Hornsby. He loves Leon so much he named one of his sons Russell.

Leon suffers from multiple sclerosis, so his shows are not nearly as long or energetic as they once are, but he remains a master showman and takes good musicians on the road (often including his son and his daughter).


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Posted by:

uck again

Location: Home of the Hawks near Toronto

Subject: Identities

PS... I think it's time for the webmaster to come clean... and let everybody know the real truth... namely that the real webmaster is that Garth T-shirt wearing supermodel with the tatoo... that we all love... and who is just forced to assume the Jan persona... a suave mild mannered professor not unlike Clark Kent... but with a beer in his hand... OK, I'll go for real now... I just had to wait for my iTunes to get thru the cricket song...


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Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

OK, I haven't been totally honest about my identity... you have to add "uck" on the end... Also, yes it is true that I am a Hawk... even if it's only a Chaska Hawk... but who cares about words... I was at night class and some 20-something comes up to me and says "now I recognize you"... followed by something like... "you gotta wear that MN Twins hat"... of course, I rarely take it off because it keeps the hair outta my eyes... and well, the bandana I otherwise wear in the privacy of my own home labels me as some kind of Green Party hippie undesirable... not that I mind that... because well, I like green... I just don't want people on the street to stare at me and snicker something like... "Yeah, I bet all he listens to is the Dixie Chicks, for sure"... Finally, I really live near Toronto so if I decide to catch a show it doesn't mean I'm obsessive... I'm just close to the music... I'm looking at her right now and she is not buying anything I say... on that note, goodnight all...


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Posted by:

Kate

Location: Brantford, Ontario

Just writing to say I love this web site! I am a huge fan of the Band and I appriciate that there are lots more out there. Love, Peace & Eternal Grooviness -Kate


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Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

John = I've told this before, but since you asked = I posted under my real name of TOM one time when I first found this site. Then the first time I jumped into the chat room I saw folks using Band nicknames and I grabbed Bayou Sam, and it sort of stuck. I almost dropped it one time but Tommy from Brooklyn came along and I stayed as "Sam" - also, I had used the name for so long at that point that changing it seemed pointless. I have no motivation to hide at all. I'm Tom, and some GBers have met me and know where I live.


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Posted by:

Lars

Location: Pine Bush,NY

Subject: Confessions

As long as everyone is revealing their true names tonight, this seems like a good time to 'fess up that my real name is Loretta. I'm just a lumberjack. I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my charade.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Thanks for the feedback

Interesting feedback on my question. Thanks all. I guess it does come down to fear of the unknown some times. Thanks ros for not flaming me regarding my question. I was just interested. Tony great post. Now get out from under your bed and back on to the front lawn where you belong :o)


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Posted by:

Lil

John D (if that's your _real_ name :-)..I liked your post about names in here. Some of gb names have been used for so long in here that sometimes it's almost strange to get a mail from someone and seeing it signed with their _real_ name. I know that for me, this Diamond Lil name has almost taken on a life of it's own. I have in fact, had to laugh when introducing myself as "Lil" to folks I've met from here for the first time..simply because they wouldn't know who I was otherwise! I do John, as you know, wish I could use my real name here. Perhaps someday.


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Posted by:

Al Edge

Subject: Our buddy Empty Now

Of course I'm not angry EN - how could I be with you? :-o)

Just so preoccupied these days with loads of stuff going off so I don't get on as much as I'd like and when I read your reference to that heinous night my stomach knotted up as I imagined all sorts of glib posts on a subject that demands like Hillsborough a deep and considered understanding before an opinion can have real validity. I have been on websites where truly awful and wounding things are said about it. I guess I just feared something similar could happen here. Perhaps I was too sensitive. Guess some things do that to you now and again. Anyroad you take care now and when I've more time we'll chew that arl arse cud.

Must admit I've also been wanting to do a bit of a review on Jeff's album and Dem Gourds but just haven't had the time. Anyone not got Jeff's cd by the way? If not then do yourself a favour. The guy's a real tunesmith. Some talent knocking round on this ole GB.


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Posted by:

judy

Location: calgary, alberta

excellent beat!!! / cree ???


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Posted by:

Tony (all right, you got me, that's short for Anthony)

Location: under my bed

Subject: disgust, Leon russell, John Hiatt, cold, cold ground, more disgust, & the like

First things first: Where has all the integrity in music gone? If I have to listen to one more mu-mu tell me about how rap music is the wave of the future or how these talentless screaming bands that seem to be churned out on the MTV assembly line are the next best thing I swear I'm gonna lose it. Where's Van Morrison to save the day? Maybe high schools should have a mandatory field trip to a Bob Dylan concert. Make these narrow minded ones listen to Miles Davis or the Clash. Throw away their Sum 41 discs and give em Highway 61. Give em the Highwaymen. Give em John and Paul screaming "Don't Let Me Doooowwn". Give em that killer sax solo on Can't You Hear Me Knocking or soak em in Torn and Frayed. Seems to me it's getting harder these days, always some new savior, always looking for the hero, blinded by the future. Maybe I shouldn't always look backward, but I can't help it, it tastes a whole lot sweeter. I thank the Gbers for their heart and soul, I'm feeling a little disillusioned today.

And in other news.....Leon Russell's coming to town and I remember a few weeks ago some people were discussing him. Does anyone now if he's worth checking out live? Please help. Also, if you're in chicago next thursday- John Hiatt and Sonny Landreth are going to be at Borders for his new album release- alupo80ataoldotcom.

Rosalind, this is for you, you make me smile:
"Now don't be a cry baby
when there's wood in the shed
there's a bird in the chimney
and a stone in my bed
when the road's washed out
they pass the bottle around
and wait in the arms
of the cold cold ground
cold cold ground

there's a ribbon in the willow
and a tire rope swing
and a briar patch of berries
taking over the slope
the cat'll sleep in the mailbox
and we'll never go to town
till we bury every dream in
the cold cold ground
cold cold ground"

And another thing...how come guys who sang things like "Only the good die young" or "Hope I die before I get old" are hovering around 60 getting arrested and still prancing around stage? I'm not not knocking cause I'm glad older acts are still performing, but it makes me think getting older is rougher than I thought. Better to burn out or rust? I mean heck we all fade away eventually don't we?


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Posted by:

Dexy

Subject: John D - names

John, I've been coming to this great site of Jan's since pretty much the beginning. At first, did use my name, but early on tried to make a dry remark that was taken in just the opposite way (wet?), and apparently offended some people by accident. Freaked me out, so I became 'Ol Dexy, after the Japanese DC title for my favorite Levon performance. I've always appreciated those of you who use your real names -- Wigo, Viney, Brennan, Hoiberg (still don't know how to do that right), Cousin Brucie, and of course Donabie among others! When we had to list our e-mail addresses, however, mine was a giveaway. -- Scott Richardson


Entered at Sat May 3 01:01:50 CEST 2003 from (192.68.30.246)

Posted by:

Adela

Location: Houston, TX
Web: My link

Subject: The Band heard on Dateline NBC

I just scanned the Guestbook and did no one see (or hear) that "Life is a Carnival" was used as the theme music to Dateline's Wednesday program on SUV crash tests?!?! Was I really the only one to catch that? Man, I wasn't even paying attention to TV but it was on and when I heard those familiar notes I froze in disbelief! Crazy, man! What hipster NBC producer made that call???? :-)


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Posted by:

Ed Voci (Listen up, something's wrong with the posting page; the message box does not appear, so I'm writing in whatever space is available. Pat, that link brought me to Norad's Santa Claus Tracking System. What's with that? Now, "almost completely" disagreeing with me is not good enough. You must disagree COMPLETELY with me so you will be COMPLETELY wrong. Capisce? :-)

Location: Illinois (which is not big enough for me, Pat Brennan and the other Irish guy of note, Richard II)

Subject: I don't care you pick one.


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

Web: My link

Ed, I appreciate your interpretive efforts, but I disagree almost completely. Check the link. Of irony personified, the Confederate Memorial is within eyeshot of Mayor Harold Washington's grave.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois and not far from Chicago's southside

Subject: Bells and Brennan

Where is that Confederate memorial on the Southside, Pat, and what's its history? The point of the bells ringing in TNTDODD is what Virgil heard in Tennessee. I had provided historical support from Lerone Bennett's book, "The Shaping of Black America", that what Virgil heard were cow bells being rung by newly freed slaves, the same people who were singing "Na-na-na-na-na..." and the only people making a noteworthy racket in the South at the close of the war. They were the only ones who came out to see Lincoln in Richmond, too, I think, but more on this after I read "April 1865" by Jay Winik. Unless, Pat, you can save me the trouble by reporting on it. Mr. Viney will grade you.

Confession: my real name is Edward Arthur Voci. I use "Ed Voci" when I don't want JTullFan to know it's me who's posting. :-)


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Posted by:

Pat Brennan

That Boston Globe article also contains a brief on Procol Harum, one of the few piano/organ groups still playing. East coasters should check them out as American visits are becoming rarer and rarer.

I don't think the bells thing in TNTDODD is referencing any specific bells. The ringing of church bells was common for any big event, but I can't recall one primary source that had the Richmond church bells ringing when the city fell or when Lincoln and his son toured the torched, ex-Confederate capital. Fire bells, maybe. And the puerile reaction of some Virginians to the new Lincoln statue is absolutely inexcusable. Hell, there's a Confederate memorial on the south side of Chicago.


Entered at Fri May 2 22:58:15 CEST 2003 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Subject: names and festivals

My name is Lee. There is another more famously Band-connected person named Lee who posts here. I have a fairly uncommon last name, so I'd rather not put it out, because, well, assholes will be assholes. I do play the bass a bit. Ergo. It actually started as my AIM name. When corresponding with folks I always give my real name.

That R.I. lineup looks great. If Paul Cebar and Milwaukeans are half as fun live as they are on the CD I have ("Upstroke For the Downfolk") don't miss them!


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois, but I'd travel to Charlestown R.I. for R&R Fest
Web: My link

Subject: Rhythm and Roots Festival August 29-31

Thanks Jonathan for the heads up about Kate Taylor and Levon's involvement in her new album. That Boston Globe article also contained this:

"The lineup for the Rhythm & Roots Festival in Charlestown, R.I., Aug. 29-31 has been announced. The acts include Steve Riley & the Mamou Playboys, Little Feat, Marcia Ball, Donna the Buffalo, and Geno Delafose & French Rockin' Boogie. More information at rhythmandroots.com..."

I have one Donna The Buffalo cd and it is terrific. DTB live shows are supposed to be supercharged. They remind me a little of Poi Dog Pondering. The Gourds will also appear on two dates.

Here's a more complete lineup cut/pasted from the above link:

"Your Hosts for the Weekend... Steve Riley & the Mamou Playboys (Fri/Sat/Sun) Plus... Little Feat (Sun) Marcia Ball (Sat) Geno Delafose & French Rockin' Boogie (Sun) Donna the Buffalo (Sat) La Bottine Souriante (Sun) Solas (Sat) Brave Combo (Fri) Chris Ardoin & Double Clutchin' (Fri/Sat) Sonny Landreth & the Goners (Sun) Paul Cebar & the Milwaukeans (Fri) Andre Thierry & Zydeco Magic (Fri/Sat) Big Sandy & the Flyrite Boys (Sun) The Gourds (Fri/Sat) Creole Tradition (Sun) Jackie Greene (Sat) Bluegrass Intentions (Fri) Paul Geremia (Sun) Plus Dance Pavilion Bands Workshop Artists and Family Stage Performers This list was updated Apr. 6, 2003 "


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: A Little Too Close To Home.

I was gonna talk about Bukowski but...I ain't got the heart for it today.

"Theres a hole this mountain
Its dark and its deep
And God only knows
Of the secrets it keeps
There' a chill in the air
Only miners can feel
And there's ghosts in the tunnels
That the company's sealed..."


Entered at Fri May 2 22:18:58 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: BEG

Voci: Thanks! Must be oldtimer's disease or something. I knew when I posted that I would come out looking really stupid. By the way, who is this 'BEG' person? John D.: Not that you were addressing me in your last post, but for the record my first name is 'Ed' and my last initial 'G.' Ed G. Prefer to leave my last name out of it both for safety and so I don't show up on two million internet searches. I once posted under my real name years ago and it still surfaces if I search by my last name. 'JTull Fan' was just an impulsive name I started with afterward, wanting to reflect another musical love of mine and resisting taking a name out of a Band song because that seemed too easy. That said, Jan has my real name and address as I have mailed him a few cd's, as do a few others out here like Peter Viney.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Guestbook Anonymity & when "Cover" versions surpass the original

New Subject...Names in the Guestbook

I am an inquisitive person and sometimes I ask strange questions in this guestbook. This is one I know that has been done before; but I cannot remember the different answers. It's a subject that made MattK flee; (I believe...I may be wrong) which is to bad. I know Serge made a point of this at one time and when I saw JTull Fan ask who is BEG....it made me ponder for a moment. Before I ask this question.......yes I know the standard answer......."because we can do whatever we want to"......granted! But why do so many people have a fear of using their own names here in guestbook? Is it because they are afraid that someone might try and seek them out? Is is easier to tear people's feelings apart when they can go under another name? We know who some of them are.

Diamond Lil for example as I got to know her, explained why she does not use her real name and she had a very good reason for it that indeed does fall under the "safety" situation. I for one have always posted under my own name and many times shorten it down to John D. Many people know my occupation. When I stand up for something, people know who they are are either agreeing with or flaming. Periodically when someone in my business gets "hate" mail which I've seen here many times. They sign their name, "Anonymous." I don't respond to people generally who use that word. Just wondering on this dull Friday afternoon.

Jesse Winchester is in town for the week-end. Couldn't get tickets. He's a popular guy.

Ritchie Havens, in my opinion made Tuli's, "Morning Morning" his own on his debut record.


Entered at Fri May 2 21:47:45 CEST 2003 from (137.187.144.172)

Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Location: Columbia, MD
Web: My link

Subject: Levon's keeping busy

Check the link.


Entered at Fri May 2 21:44:49 CEST 2003 from (129.237.148.74)

Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: ........boring.........

...I'll be forty in August and I've taught various college courses for the last nine years, things like basic composition, introduction to literature, and the like...this has made me a bit of an expert on young people in certain institutional settings...and brought me face to face with the "boring" factor...and I have to say that while for the most part these are "good kids," they are also pretty damned boring themselves: passive and conditioned to like and respond to a painfully narrow type of entertainment and hence unable to take the time to appreciate something that demands intellectual/spiritual energy from the listener...with very few exceptions the Band's music does not assault and sometimes doesn't invite, you have to go to it...some have said that the Band members were playing first of all for each other on their best material and I think there is truth to that...it is an acquired taste but once acquired, rarely lost and forever cultivated...trouble is in today's world people, and not just young people, don't want to take time to acquire taste...the entertainment's gotta have big explosions big money big tits all over it or it's boring...

and to me that mindset is the most boring thing imaginable...

I am narrow myself though, don't take time to check out new music...very little of it appeals to me when I do hear it...same goes for current actors, they seem interchangeable, no charisma or adventurousness...I'd rather rent Midnight Cowboy or some other 70s classic than catch what's going on with Renee Zellweger or Reese Witherspoon...huh??????

now once in a great while I do run into younger people who truly dig the Band...they are most likely interested in groups like the Dead and singers like Dylan, unsurprisingly. But I've found that people with genuinely broad musical tastes will like the Band, whether young or old. I love the Band but that doesn't stop me from liking artists who are completely dissimilar, i.e. Iggy Pop, the Ramones, Mamas and Papas, the Doors, Earth Wind and Fire, Johnny Rivers, and lots and lots of jazz...

but of course there's no denying that the older I get the more I sound exactly like my father, that's justice for my saying I'd never be like him...


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois

Subject: BEG = Brown Eyed Girl

Duh? JTullFan, how long have you been on this book?


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois where the farms' rare earth yield many gourds

Subject: EN, Rare Earth, Gourds

EN wrote: "Do you remember « Get Ready », Rare Earth….the 21 min 31 sec version…does the Gourds sounds like that…with a little Country color.. Ed ?"

Funny, I was just telling someone about the few concerts that I was involved in putting on in the 1970's: Traffic, Wet Wellie, Rare Earth (Phil, the drummer/singer was really nice). My mind's ear can't hear "Get Ready" countryfied into a Gourds sound, but don't be surprised if they do it (fiddle substituted for sax? Yeah, ok...It's coming to me...let it cook a little more). Afterall, there's a killer boot of The Gourds doing The Chambers Brothers' "Time (has come today)", a song from the same era. And, after what the Gourds did with Snoop Dogg's and Dr. Dre's "Gin 'n Juice", I put nothing above, below, or beyond them.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: BEG

I am confused. Who is 'BEG'? Empty Now is responding to this person whose posts I do not see. What am I missing?


Entered at Fri May 2 20:44:32 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

it seems there is a slight ascynchronicity, BEG you already posted today....See you

Good Night


Entered at Fri May 2 20:14:58 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: B E G

)::: is not a suggestion i meant: as a fan of Sara/Shirley do you confirm my "analysing songs to death"? do you know Bukowski....in "The Most Beautiful woman in Town":

"It was a weekday and not yet summer so things were splendidly deserted.
Beach bums in rags slept on the lawns above the sand

in my first post on Sara i chosed Dylan's "Now the beach is deserted..."

and some other backgrounds, BEG please dont focuse on "drunk"::::::::))))))))))))))))


Entered at Fri May 2 19:50:07 CEST 2003 from (61.240.164.200)

Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines
Web: My link

Subject: Tuli / Baldry

Tuli's "Morning Morning" was originally the B-side of the Fugs' 1966 45 "Kill for Peace". It can now be found on the Fugs CD 'Second Album' (see the link for cover scan and song list). To me Tuli is the guy that really made the Fugs "a band". His wit and hilarious vocal delivery are priceless. The new Fugs CD will include a Tuli composion called "Septuagenarian in Love" (sung to the tune of "Teenager in Love").

Bill: Are you saying that you have a comp with Baldry and the Fugs on it (one of those great old Warner Brothers 2-fer loss leaders), or that Baldry plays a Fugs song? The Fugs were on 'Songbook' and 'Record Show'. Sanders solo on 'The Big Ball'


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Posted by:

David Powell

Location: Georgia, U.S.A.

Subject: Music

Great music is timeless. The listeners are the ones who age with each experience of hearing the music. Some may say that some music is too old & far removed from the present. In reality, the music is as fresh as it was envisioned in particular point in time, but those listeners haven't aged enough in their musical experience to appreciate it's meaning.


Entered at Fri May 2 17:40:49 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: if my link dont work, i didnt resist, BEG ):::

In TALES OF ORDINARY MADNESS Charles Bukowski does what very few can. He finds the poetry in real people who live miserable lives in miserable conditions, mostly by their own doing. There is very little to recommend in these characters. Like Bukowski, most of them are unemployed drunks, dirty old men, sexual degenerates, and morally stripped souls. They form a subculture that perpetuates and sustains itself as long as the liquor keeps flowing (and it does), the women keep giving (and they do ... and do), and the men continue indulging (and they do ... and do ... and do). And yet, the reader is transfixed. For better or worse (usually worse), the reader chooses to enter Bukowski's world, takes a perverse delight in the goings-on, lingers and tarries, knowing that he or she can escape from the pits of hell at will, revisiting when the urge strikes. Better yet, there is no hangover in the morning.


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Posted by:

Jennifer

Location: Grand Junction CO/ Huntsville UT
Web: My link

Subject: :)

Robbie Robertson~ If you read any of this...I LOVE all of your music! My personal favorite is "Twisted Hair". Some of the remixes, I like them but I also feel that a level of perfection was acheived in the originals- I notice slight differences. You all were nothing short of AWESOME at the 2002 Olympics!


Entered at Fri May 2 17:09:18 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Hitting a musical bottom/ What's old will be new again

Tony, I agree it is frustrating that today's kids find the Band 'boring', if they even know about them at all. Personally, like many out here, I am alienated and totally uninspired by today's music. Sure, there are those niche bands that get discussed out here periodically like the Gourds, etc. Not to put any of them down, but where are our new Dylan's, The Band, Beatles etc.? Rhetorical question, but I do not think music and the music industry has hit bottom yet. The Band themselves were great because they reinterpreted incredible artists and genres that were far from the most popular or mainstream. I think inevitably, The Band themselves will serve similar inspiration to a new group of artists yet to show themselves, and what was 'old' will be reinvigorated and 'new' again.


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois

Subject: Empty Now, Mr. Viney, JTFan, Gourds list

EN: Bitterness, absolutely not. Affection, yes.

Peter: It's not the 20 year-olds, it's their commanders. Protecting antiquities was not in the Rumsfeld War Plan, depsite the Pentagon's having been given ample warning by scholars, museums, etc.

Thanks JTFan. Love the $5 bill quip.

As we book here, there is raging on the Gourds list a discussion about The Band stimulated by the admission of a young lister that he has never heard The Band. Suggestions, commentaries, etc. are flying all over the place. As one lister remarked, wouldn't you like to be there when the youngster hears it all for the first time? Also remarked upon was the connection between Doug Sahm's connectoin to both The Band (Rick's first solo job) and The Gourds. They dedicated Bolsa de Agua to Sir Doug and there is a neat boot of him playing with dem boyz. Talk about too soon gone. Damn.


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Posted by:

Tony

Location: desolation row

Subject: old, new music/ the beauty of the GB

I understand the struggle to keep current while preserving
the integrity and significance of "older" music.
Something isn't write when I try to talk to
my twentysomething friends about The Band and they
call it boring or crap. Now I'm an advocate of allowing different
tastes but it worries me tremendously
that some years down the road people may not remember this great music
so it's crucial to keep this GB alive (as to someone's recent
notion that there's nothing left to talk about-
I think the last 100 posts prove that wrong)

I'm not a frequent poster cause I love reading whatb everyone has to say.
This is the beauty of this thing,
so many different peoples coming together to DISCUSS everything
It's an outlet, an opportunity to share,
really a privelege that I think many sometimes neglect
What a wonderful thing to be able to contact people from
around the world and present your ideas and passions about
music, life, love, (and even politics), so keep on
choogling and spread the joy evenly like a nice marmalade on a warm biscuit

"Everything went from bad to worse
Money never changed a thing
Death kept following, tracking us down
At least I heard your bluebird sing
Now somebody's got to show their hand
Time is an enemy
I know you're long gone
I guess it must be up to me"
-Dylan


Entered at Fri May 2 16:45:57 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Web: My link

Subject: After scrolling the posts

Lifeboy : Very kind words, Thanks

Amanda – Helena – Ed

Talknig about Old Music and The Special Place of Dylan’s Sara. By relaunching the topic, Amanda, i hope i wont disappoint you, because i dont know exactely what did my earlier post suggest you exactly
The first reason that made me posting that day, i was enquiring on my own objective motivations that made me listenning to only one song during 4 years 92-96.i.e. was it related to the song quality, the lyrics or some personal experience.
The post came in a bad day, i remember all trurned around the Civil War re-enactment, and had to apologize for posting « out of context ». Only one reply i had from BEG, immediately after my post, i didnt had an exact answer. I was enquiring first if any normal person in the GB had such an experience with an other song
I talked about the absence of creations at that time, my dealer who knows my style, talked me about Pop Stapples, Taj Mahal, it didnt work, and even …Jericho…Big deception, sooner or later i had to tell it.
About the song style, i talked about a Neil-Yougized song, for the first tim in Dylan’s work….Listen to « Words » in Harvest album..\that means it was for me one reason to NOT enjoying the song.
I titled that post « Tales of Ordinary Madness » the title was not commented else…it evokative for what happend to me. In fact this title is of a biography of Charles Buckowski, (check the link) The Alcoholic Poet, The dirty old man…I read some poems and the biography of this poet…i enjoyed it…..and i find that the world of Bukowsi is somewhat restored in Sara, i mean the measure. Perhaps that was the reason. Perhaps i’m wrong.
Helena : i apply exactly one comment in your last post about Dream Theater

Amanda, i hope i didn’t break rthe part of the dream…btw…my fave song of Fleetwood Mac – Stevie Nicks is SaraH…I never lied in the GB…

Helena : Do you remember « Get Ready », Rare Earth….the 21 min 31 sec version…does the Gourds sounds like that…with a little Country color.. Ed ?


Entered at Fri May 2 16:39:23 CEST 2003 from m124-132.on.tac.net (209.202.124.132)

Posted by:

Bill

Location: Toronto

Some months ago we were talking about Long John Baldry's "Don't Try To Lay No Boogie Woogie On The King Of Rock And Roll". The same LP includes a really nice version of Tuli Kupferberg's "Morning Morning" - which I always assumed had appeared on some Fugs LP. A while ago I picked up one of Long John's early '80s LPs, recorded while he was living in Toronto (which he left a fews years later for Vancouver). His band on the album included a couple of ex-Hawks - Kelly Jay of Crowbar and Hugh Brockie of Atkinson Danko and Ford - and also Rob Gusevs, who is one of the organists on the "2B3: The Toronto Sessions" CD of a couple of years ago.


Entered at Fri May 2 15:57:11 CEST 2003 from (193.10.71.3)

Posted by:

Helena R.

Location: Stockholm, Sweden

Subject: "old" music

Kalervo: if I understand you correctly you have a "trauma" about being middle-aged and love today´s music. That´s funny, for me it has been the opposite. I used to have this feeling that people looked at me as someone digging around for antiquities or they just didn´t understand. I sometimes feel like a real nerd liking "old" music and "living in the past". Although the 60´s and 70´s does not seem far away for me. 30 years is not a long time in the light of musical development. Even if things sometimes can happen overnight. A lot of bands today are doing the same thing the bands did back then. And the kids believe it´s something new. I prefer to think about popular music and culture as a movement of the 20´th century, being possible thanks to new techniques like recording and television etc. All of us music-lovers (creators and consumers) born in 20´th century are part of that same movement. But I really do agree that one should pay a lot of interest in newcomers. Empty Now: talking about strange mania, for me it has become like a curse having these thoughts about music, tunes etc. in my head all the time. There´s always a tune or textline working in my head wether I want to or not. Really annoying sometimes. By for now and take care//Helena


Entered at Fri May 2 15:38:32 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Al Edge

Imiting your style = PLAGIARISM, with a tiny The Band connection

I swear be the turf below my feet
You wont read a feat of football featuring fitful Toef in defeat


Entered at Fri May 2 15:33:05 CEST 2003 from (66.200.102.19)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: reply to Lil, Voci

Firstly, Lil, the '89 All-Starrs were my first exposure to Rick/Levon/The Band and it was a great introduction. Ironically I was playing Raining in My Heart on my laptop yesterday. With Ringo + Dr. John, that show really was a mini 'TLW'. I have a decent boot of it too, somewhere...Voci: I was afraid someone would ask your question. I cannot provide you with an exact footnote, as it is buried (in several books) in my collection but it would be a needle in the haystack. However, when I gave battlefield tours for the National Park Service, it was part of my training. Three people you may wish to contact at the Fredericksburg & Spotsylvania Military Park would be Greg Mertz, Elsa Lohman, or Janice Frye. Bob Krick too if you can get through the phone tree and he is not up in DC lobbying for money to fight some new Walmart construction on unprotected battlefields. I also lived for a while on Caroline Street in downtown Fredericksburg, and the Baptist Church as well as St. George's Episcopal (both spires in all the historical wartime shots of Fredericksburg) had their bells rung in this manor. Send me an email if you wish. us2inva@excite.com. PS: On the Lincoln statue issue, I think opposition to it is quite silly. It depicts accurately an historical event near the spot it occurred. It is part of the cities legacy and it belongs there. A local columnist wrote 'what are we to do, stop using $5.00 bills? Kick out the Federal Reserve Bank downtown?' And to be fair, there is a statue of Lee up in DC, in the capital, isn't it?


Entered at Fri May 2 14:35:01 CEST 2003 from cache-rf05.proxy.aol.com (152.163.188.165)

Posted by:

PutEmUp (Jeff)

Subject: Lawyers,, Ed, BEG, Empty Now, Dion

Hey , people. All this talk about lawyers, and the fact that Dion is beginning a tour, makes me ponder. What do you think? Could Dion have really been inspired to write "Runaround Sue" by a female lawyer? Hey, ya never know.


Entered at Fri May 2 14:28:18 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.210)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Pehr....Kalervo

You are quite welcome Pehr. Kalervo, the Flyers won last night 1-0 behind some great goaltending. The series is all square at 2-2. It's been a very good matchup thus far. Enjoy!


Entered at Fri May 2 14:05:57 CEST 2003 from hse-hamilton-ppp191398.sympatico.ca (64.229.0.33)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

I love Stevie's voice....She can harmonize with anyone.....Like Tom Petty in "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around".....Listening now to an outtake of "Thrown Down"....The total Stevie Experience....

Ed V: Lawyers are something else, aren't they? The next time you go to Cuba let me know and I'll tell you where the two great places are to eat in Habana.....We visited Al Capone's former house in Varadero which is now a restaurant as well.....Unfortunately we didn't have the time to try it out....But the backyard is Varadero Beach so amazing site......Santiago De Cuba....Different musical energy there....Reggae is huge....Marley rules there along side Cuban rhythms! Btw....The Cuban artist whose song I need to get a hold of is by Carlo Morella....not Carlo Morello as I've previously posted.....If you make it to Garth's show this month I'll bring the Cuban photos and then you can bug me about Robbie....At least you like his politics.....I'll continue to put up a peace sign too....

Kalervo: :-D....Would you believe the article in BAM is about seven pages long (scrap book size)...That's why I've only been posting some excerpts at a time when I'm so inclined.....Btw..I've sent Jan photos I took of Robbie at the Aboriginal Awards night from the show I taped....Too bad the photo I took of Robbie and The Hawk! didn't turn out well.....

Al Edge: Our buddy Jerry T emailed this week....Busy with SARS and all to keep up with site....We've shared some Dylan boots....He's also posted about Robbie and his father at the Concord Tavern that was owned by him....I think he posted this past winter....In anycase, he's always spoken well of Robbie via email....

Peter: Perhaps other people who know/knew Robbie as you've posted once....."Went out West and got a life".....I should take the same advice.....Very good advice Peter except I'm an East Coast Gal....Toronto, NYC, Cuba....


Entered at Fri May 2 13:44:19 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-194.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.194)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Robbie postings

Robbie – now I’m going back a few years here. There was one of the early flurries of feud stuff, which resulted (as it does) in someone posting a pretty strong anti-Levon post. There was a post back from someone who seemed to be in touch with Robbie at that time, and it said that he’d never heard Robbie say anything bad about Levon or the other guys, quite the contrary in fact, and that Robbie would have been distressed to hear of such an attack on his behalf. As I say, years ago – don’t know if someone with broadband could trace it in the archives. I remembered it because it fit my world (=Band) view of things.


Entered at Fri May 2 12:40:59 CEST 2003 from mcha-ae019.taconic.net (205.231.29.147)

Posted by:

Lil Again

I just wanted to mention that my last post was not directed at anyone in particular. It's just the feeling I got when I read some of the e-mails I received from pissed-off people who don't even know the man. I'd really like to hear from someone who _does_. Thanks.


Entered at Fri May 2 12:37:55 CEST 2003 from mcha-ae019.taconic.net (205.231.29.147)

Posted by:

Lil

Frank: Thanks for your reply. It wasn't quite what I was looking for, but I do appreciate you sharing your story anyway.

Judging from the reaction my post got (both here and in e-mail), it seems that people who don't know anything more than what they fantasize about in their own heads really took offense at my last post. Not sure why. I was simply stating something that's obvious to anyone who's been following this place for awhile..and I thought perhaps I'd missed something. I'm really not interested in what people think they know. I was more or less inviting someone who knows Robbie, the man, to share something with us.

have a good day everyone.


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Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: Blackmail

Ed Voci: your post shows some bitterness against me. Is it the begining of The Feud?

1 - I received recently a review about a Gourds Fan in Chicago-Illinois playing Cymbals

2 - I gonna listen to that song provided you will change your GB name to (chose an item):

- Cow Fish
- Fish Fowl
- Fowl Pig

3 - Serious Now: I wont make an Opera on Soccer, I suggested you in my crypto style, to continue your interest on TNTDODD for the "American Stars & Bars" item. It's a March very Operable, like the "Guillaume Tell" in some Rossini Piece. You must start big in your life.

Mr Al Edge: While you dont reply, i suppose you're still angry against me, thus i wont talk about Soccer anymore until further specifications. Sorry


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Posted by:

A plea

Subject: A Plea

Hey Jan! *Please* can we have two guestbooks?


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Posted by:

Frank

Subject: Lil

Lil back in about 1988 Robbie was invited to speak at Trinity College Dublin,it was around about the time he had been working with U2 on his solo album[i,m not a huge U2 fan] i dropped Robbie a line at Capitol enquiring if we might see him play over here at anytime, what the Trinity College thing was about...i got a short but very nice letter back from the man on his personal headed paper, and this is something i,ve always appreciated .... Levon i consider a friend of mine and someone i admire greatly other than joking about ''the suits'' who played a big part in the ruination of THE BAND i,ve never heard him being unduly bitter...folksey,funny, articulate and dyed in the wool razerback yes but never anything other than that. Amanda/Olive Carey a compliment it was. Peter. checked plastic table cloths, only replete with a milk bottle in the middle...i come from a family of eleven, we had to eat in shifts...rememeber how breakfast time was always portrayed in the many american shows/movies we got on tv over the years..mum pouring coffee from an always full pot...scrambled eggs/pancakes syrup/orange juice..Dad reading the paper, the kids the picture of rude good health....Dick York, Margaret Montgomery,Rock Hudson, Doris Day ...oh to be in America if at least at breakfast time...come to think of it do you remember the size of the steak Gregory Peck was served at brekkie time in The Big Country...i,m beginning to salavitate and we are not evening approaching elevenses yet. one final thing...can any of our american friends give me a leg up on the origins/meaning of the word Cheyenne..it,s just something i,m helping a friend out with at the moment..i seem to remember reading it meant ''cut arm people'' or perhaps was derived from french fur trappers using the term 'chien'' when describing the fact that dog formed a part of the peoples diet..any help greatly appreciated. Peter Viney ref premier Blair being a priggish[well meaning] arshole...we in N Ireland have just had elections postponed because certain [deemed extremist] parties were expected to secure huge mandates at the expense of other[deemed more moderate] parties, thus when a new assembley was formed the parties with the huge mandate would,nt talk to one another[well one of them would,nt talk] i,m sure this formed the basis for one of The MONTY PYTHON episodes from their second series...it could only happen over here.


Entered at Fri May 2 09:44:21 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-196.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.196)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Replies to Ed. Warning - some political content

Ed - To me all politicians are arseholes. Some are benign and moderately harmless arseholes, some are horribly evil arseholes, some are socially useful arseholes, some strut around in elaborate military uniforms with epaulettes and medals and others like dressing up in pilots' uniforms and parading around in front of sailors (but I guess it's better than bottling it up). Tony Blair is a well-intentioned but priggish arsehole with a poisonous wife, but while taking the moral high ground and accepting public pay freezes has amassed himself an unprecedently huge pension fund, and he's probably one of the more honest ones. Of course I wouldn't equate him with Hitler or Saddam and I don't think I ever have. More importantly, as both Hitler and Saddam used the political process to get power then abolished the political process, I'm not sure that i would even define them as politicians - probably not in fact.

On the museum, I was sympathetic to the troops in the hugely chaotic unexpected situation of the day. It has since come out that a moderate sized detachment of troops spent exactly those hours of looting chipping an anti-American mosaic which featured Mr Bush off the wall of a neighbouring ministry. I wasn't blaming the troops, and it was the reluctant mosaic chippers who blew the whistle on it. And if they'd been standing in front of the museum, instead of chipping away, they might have made the difference. But no, I don't blame a bunch of early 20-somethings for not having worked out the priorities in a hugely volatile situation. On the other hand, the Museum Director speaking in London believes it was a planned and premeditated heist of the main bits, covered by chaotic looting around it. In which case, the plot will give us the highest-selling movie of the 2005 season.

And finally - there might not have been an opera on football, but Peter Terson's Zigger Zagger stage play has songs and a large chorus. There have been plenty of plays with a soccer theme, most interestingly "Elton John's Glasses" where sunlight reflecting off his glasses causes his beloved Watford to let in a goal in the Cup Final (or score a goal- don't remember which it was now).


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Posted by:

Ed Voci

Location: Illinois
Web: My link

Subject: A bunch of stuff

Empty Now: when you go out at night, let your folks know when you'll be home. We don't want to wait up all night worrying about you. I can't say I'm a Juve fan, so it doesn't go in the TNTDODD opera, sorry. The first goal my kids saw scored in Italy last summer was Del Piero's shot that tied Mexico 1-1 in fnal minutes. At tuck-in time each night at Casa Voci, someone has on an oversided Del Piero shirt. I agree that someone has to write a soccer opera. Now, at your insistence, I went out, purchased, listened to and corresponded with you about the song by Kansas that is seared into your consciousness. request. Would you please get "Cow Fish Fowl or Pig" by the Gourds and tell us what you think?

Rosalind: I never thought I'd agree with you on anything. I dig Tom Waits. Pat Brennan: Tell me "Come On Up To The House" is not a superbly classic Band song. And there's more where that one came from.

Brown Eyed Girl: Please keep posting on Cuba. You are one of the most interesting contributors to this website. Your contributions are flowers in a garden that grows wild at times, with crabgrass and all. If for no other reason, Cuba has some of the greatest music and musical traditions in the world. I once spoke with Randy Ciarlante about visiting Calabria, his and my ancestral homeland in Southern Italy. His response: "I'd like to go to Cuba first and learn their drumming". If it's good enough for Randy Ciarlante....See the link above for one such drumming program run by Humboldt University in Cuba. Fred, when is Ristorante Chez Guevara opening up, I want reservations.

Cuba, very briefly: I brought and distributed books to schools without anyone checking on me or the books. I and friends were invited to speak and did speak at the University of Havana after meeting a professor on the street the day before. I correspond by email with acquaintances there. I spoke with lots of people holding a wide range of opinions. I felt physically safer walking the streets at 1a.m. in Havana than any other city I have visited or lived in. The going joke about Cuba is: the three successes of the revolution are education (illiteracy abolished), health care (universal and free), and sports (more gold medals per capita than any other countyr). The three failures of the revolution are breakfast, lunch and dinner. The food is not great, but no one is hungry and very few people were obese. If the United States were constantly under threat of attack or actual attack by say, oh to pick just any country, Japan, for forty years, I wonder what would happen to Japanese U.S. citizens who organized here to overthrow the U.S. government and were financed by wealthy zealots of Nippon living, say, a few miles away in Canada? On the other hand, when I inquired, of somewhat prominent people, why the Soviet Union collapsed (after all Cuba is largely organized on the Soviet model), the answer I got was that the government had "lost touch" with the people. Not an adequate answer. There is, though, a strong spirit of unity among the Cuban people, though. I saw an anti-embargo demonstration there in which 800,000 people marched along the Malecon (Havana's waterfront roadway). That would be the equivalent of about 22,000,000 Americans. Bottom line: If the vast majority of people did not support Castro's government, it would have collapsed a la the entire Soviet bloc, putting aside the U.S.A's attempts to murder Castro, invade, and create and organize opposition forces.

Mr. (showing respect for elders is back, I hear) Viney, equating your "arsehole" (Blair) to Castro as just another "politician" is a bit like comparing George Bush to Bobby Rush (former Black Panther now member of Congress). Also disagreed with you on the American invaders' failure to protect Mesopotamian antiquities. Sure, the Nazis stole that kind of stuff when they invaded various places, but at least they took care of it.

On Crazy Chester recently being discovered in these pages as a real person, I thought that was old news: see the book of revelation (i.e. This Wheels On Fire by Levon Helm) page 176. Of course, RR wrote that part of Levon's book. :-)

There is another Jim Capaldi fan out there? Bill, I hardly know ya.

You bet I ordered my Dixie Chicks tee-shirt and will wear it. This latest episode in censorship (recall Blacklisting, McCarthyism) proves the myth of free speech in the USA: you get only as much free speech as you own.

PutEmUp: I played cymbals last night with the Chicago Bar Ass'n Symphony Orchestra on "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (by Strauss and from Kubric's "2001: A Space Odyssey") and hit all my notes. So, there. An absolute fuggin' thrill. Prouder moment: my girls sang "In Dreams" from "Lord of the Rings" with the orchestra.

Requests: JTullFan: Can you give me a reference to the church bell ringing by union soldiers, plesae? Also, fill us in on the statue-of-Lincoln-in-Richmond controversey that I heard about recently. JTFan or David Powell: when Lincoln visited Richmond at the close of the war, was it only ex-slaves (my chorus for the TNTDODD) that came out to see and meet him? Is "April 1865" worth the read? I bud of mine raves about it. /n edwardvoci.at.americanonline.com


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Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland

Subject: Undeniably human

Many thanks Brown Eyed Girl! I wholeheartedly agree with what Robbie said...Kiitos!

Thanks Pehr and Empty Now!

Thanks Bob W. and Bassmanlee for Phil Roy. I' m listening tohisweb site. Yes there are similarities with Robbie' s music, in a positive way. I know I' ll return to his music often. Bob: Although I support Canadians, I have a soft spot on Flyers, too, because of you and Sami Kapanen. If they' ll beat Senators they will go far.


Entered at Fri May 2 04:48:35 CEST 2003 from quebec-hse-ppp3613116.sympatico.ca (65.93.194.229)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Kalervo: Another excerpt from Robbie in BAM mag.....

BAM:This album isn't anything so obvious as an attempt to educate the American public on Indians, but did you use that imagery for so many of the songs just from a personal frame of reference that seemed best at the time? You didn't have any underlying agenda behind it?

ROBBIE:.....I think it's all gonna come around. And where it's been like "Oh, these poor people, and we took their land, and we did this, and now there are all these old people sitting around," I think it's gonna come around and it's gonna be like "You'll be coming to us. You don't get it, and you know you're wrong. You've had time to prove that to yourself. You're gonna have to figure out what works, and you don't know what works. We know what works. If that's what you want to talk about. If you want to talk about nuclear age or something else, we don't know anything about that, we don't know nothing about modern-day technology and cities, we don't get that real well, you're right about that. But if you want to talk about making this planet work in some kind of balance, that we understand real well.

It's with a great sense of pride that I think this thing is gonna be coming around. You'll see. I've been checking it out. I just came back from there [a reservation in New Mexico]. I've been checking it out for years and years, and for the first time, I feel like talking about it. And I'm in touch with some people that I think are monsters, that I think are gonna be of tremendous value to this country in the next few years.

But anyway, we don't need to drift into that, we'll talk about that some other time. And actually at this stage I'm sworn to secrecy - I mean, I can't mention names, I can't go into too much detail, because the timing isn't right. And I don't know what makes the timing right. It's a different kind of timing than what we're used to. But I've just met some fantastic people, and it's refreshing, so powerful...But it retains its beauty; it's power with beauty.

Empty Now: As you know I've only read "L'Etranger" by Camus. I lent my brother "Plague" but he never returned it. I'm interested in reading "La Peste" next time......

Btw...In Education some of us are interested in educating the whole child....The child who THINKS....FEEEEEEEEELS.....ACTS......For me there was always four R'S.....The visual and performing ARTS are a necessity.....not a luxury......Last week we were treated to an opera on "Cinderella".....We came out of the performance singing in our operatic voices....I was the loudest of course.....;-D

Someone who knew Robbie told me that they received an email from a poster who referred to them as "gutless" because they wouldn't post.....Some of us know the reasons...The only other poster knows Robbie's daughter but has stopped posting as well.....


Entered at Fri May 2 04:35:23 CEST 2003 from mcha-ai164.taconic.net (205.231.28.164)

Posted by:

Lil Again

Sheila..Hi! Just read your post, which you must've posted while I was writing mine. I saw Rick and Levon with Ringo's all-starr band back in 1989..and it was wonderful. I'll never forget Rick singing "Raining in my heart" outside under the stars.......


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Posted by:

Lil

Clay: The last time I checked, Tower records still had Rick's first solo album in stock. Also, if you haven't picked up the "jubilation" cd..do yourself a favor and get it. You won't be disappointed.

Something dawned on me tonight that I'm not 100% sure of, so I wanted to ask you guys. Being one of the 'fossils' around here who's been reading this gb from the beginning (yikes!), I can't seem to recall any posts or personal stories from people who know Robbie, the man, not the musician. Many posts and heart-warming stories from friends of Levon and Garth, and more of the same from friends of Rick and Richard. Can anyone recall if I'm perhaps forgetting.. or have there truly been no personal stories from anyone close to Robbie? Thanks.
Oh.. and before anyone tells me that noone close to Robbie would ever post here because of the bad things said about him and the 'feud', keep in mind that this guestbook was up and going long before the subject of this 'feud' ever came up.. and even back then.. I can't recall a post from a friend of Robbie's. Just thought it was strange I guess.


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Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: Thanks Bob Wigo

thanks Bob W.

thats pretty good John W.

dont know about JT, sorry. best


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Posted by:

Jonathan Katz

Location: Columbia, MD

Subject: Please Please Please

Is that Levon singing "Please Please Please" on the Port Dover boot?


Entered at Fri May 2 04:07:46 CEST 2003 from (69.4.195.208)

Posted by:

Sheila

Location: Fayetteville, Arkansas

Subject: Ringo Starr and His All Star Band

Was just watching VH1 Classic and caught a glimpse of Ringo and His All Star Band doing "It Don't Come Easy" and was so pleased to see Ricky Danko and Levon Helm in it. I had read in Levon's book about the participation, but had never seen video of it. Ringo has good taste when it comes to choosing band members, huh? Ya'all have a good evening.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: JT Fans

John, Do you really want another one of me? :) Sorry, I understood your post first time but couldn't resist. Wish I could help you but I haven't seen those videos. It was a slow day out here today; you may still get an answer.


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Posted by:

Lifeboy

Web: My link

Subject: Peter V \ Spam

Peter, I always favoured corned beef over spam. Used to have it in sandwiches when the family went for a day out at the beach, they would end up all sweaty(so would the family actually) with sand in.....ccccrunch, mmmmmm! It's tickled me that such a subject has come up in the GB, Spam nearly rhymes with The Band....ahem! Check the link, only on the internet! The best bit is the gift catalogue. Apologies to all for such a poor contribution to this GB, hopefully it will give someone a laugh....there's been some great posts here lately, I'm too busy reading to actually join in. Empty Now, I hope you stick around mate, it's good to read your posts. All the best.


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Posted by:

John D

No JT Fans?


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Posted by:

Amanda

Subject: Empty Now

You do have those rights. Sometimes I go overboard.


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Posted by:

Nick

As far as Band solo lp's I would recommend Danko's first for sure. It's simply called "Rick Danko". It's fantastic but hard to get. Has anyone had any luck lately? It seems like it's out of stock at HMV but their trying to get it for me. His last release "Times Like These" is very good as well. Levons collection cd "The Ties That Bind" is sweet, along with his "RCO All-Stars" and "American Son" records. Can't go wrong with these.


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Posted by:

Bones

The new issue of Rolling Stone is celebrating their 35th anniversary. There is an article by David Fricke about the Stratocaster, and it quotes Robbie Robertson multiple times. Robbie in the article mentions that 90% of all his solos were on a Strat.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: Empty Now

Empty Now: Thank you for elevating the tone of the proceedings here.


Entered at Thu May 1 20:34:36 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Jtull : Thanks, there is a great similarity between the US Civil War and the Champions League. My concern is : identify the tune (or the march) na na na… (while i pretend having an answer)

BEG : Thanks for fitting my word games at the level of Dylan. I dont know what is Historical Materialism, but if it concerns Existantialism, please see my line to Amanda

Amanda : I believe to another quote, from one of the greatest brains who were on Earth, a Native from my Land, Albert Camus in « L’homme Revolté » (dont read that book, it’s too true):

Contrairement à ce que beaucoup pensent, la tragédie du monde n’est pas qu’il y ai trop de haine dans le coeur des Hommes, mais qu’il y ai trop d’amour dans le cœur de tout Homme et si peu de choses à aimer

Translated : Oppositely to what many people think, The tragedy of the world is not that there is too much hatred in the Heart of Men, but that there is too much Love in the heart of every Man and a so few number of things to be loved

Your invitation (and that of many people here) for me to be present in the GB is sometimes hard to assume, a load…it sounds like « you haven’t the right to be weak, you haven ’t the right to D… »

A Great serenity in the GB these days


Entered at Thu May 1 20:20:55 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

Pehr - No, but I do have some that ol' Trent might enjoy. Like: What's the difference between the Supreme Court and the Klu Klux Klan? Answer: The Klu Klux Klan wears white robes and scares the hell out of black people. The Supreme Court wears black robes and scares the hell out of white people.


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Handsome Lake

That book is entitled "Teachings From The Longhouse" by Chief Jacob Thomas.

From The Code of Handsome Lake:

When your people's children become educated in the way of the white people, they will no longer speak their own language and will not understand their own culture. Your people will suffer great misery and will not be able to understand their elders anymore.


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Posted by:

Pehr

Subject: Kalervo

Kalervo: while in Canada recently I picked up a biography on chief Handsome Lake, although the title escapes me at the moment. It may be called "Teachings of the Longhouse". I'll check it out and let ya know.

Was that a Trent Lott joke, John W.?


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Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Ray Pence

Thanks Ray, Actually I'm just jealous of the college educations around here ..I dropped out of high school one month before my sixteenth birthday, never got a GED, but I spent 8 weeks in bartending school ... Does that count? That un-thought-out thing on Asian women was just for fun. I think in movie dialogue...I figured everyone would take it like it was ... from a movie. I have known some Asian women. They have a tenderness and a deep abiding love for family and ... they're the most beautiful women in the world.. I love Asian culture, food, music .. clothes, perfumes, and "China Red" is my favorite lipstick.

I heard Dana Glover on the DMX the other day - Rain?

I like it when the joke's on Crabgrass - He don't care, he's a fire-starter, he loves it!


Entered at Thu May 1 19:19:25 CEST 2003 from (12.33.126.130)

Posted by:

John W.

There was once a Native American who drank 10 gallons of tea. Unfortunately, he drowned in his tea pee.


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Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: Beer Cans on the Moon

Peter V.: The LP you are referring to is a solo effort by Ed Sanders called 'Beer Cans on the Moon', and is definitely inferior to any Fugs LP you care to mention. To judge the Fugs by that LP is kind of like judging the Rounders by "So You Want To Be a Bird" (which was the worst track off their worst album). The Fugs album that I would recommend to uninitiated is "Songs from a Portable Forest". It's an absolutely splendid compilation of their best 80s material. On ‘SFaPF’ they still retain all their 60s weirdness but finally come to grips with a modern recording studio. Next would come "Golden Filth" or any of the Warner Brothers stuff, but you can't get it on CD unless you want to pay "Handmade" prices. Then maybe ‘1st Album’ (I think it was the last production job ever to be credited to Harry Smith). To me the Fugs were “of their time” about as much as the Velvet Underground were,,, that is to say ,,, less than the Byrds.

The absolute best place to start with the Rounders is right at the beginning. The re-issue of "Album 1 + 2" on Fantasy. An absolutely brilliant transfer to disc of their first 2 albums from 64-65. Then move on to “I Make A Wish For a Potato”, a generous (20 song) smattering of everything the Rounders or their friends (Michael Hurley, Jeffrey Fredericks, the Clamtones) ever recorded for Rounder Records (a label BTW that was named after the Holy Modal Rounders). Then move on to the individual Rounders (“Too Much Fun”, “Have Moicy!”) or Peter Stampfel solo Cds (“You Must Remember This”).

I love "My White Bicycle".


Entered at Thu May 1 17:37:11 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-254.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.254)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: Fugs etc

The talk of Fugs and Holy Modal Rounders reminds me that the new UNCUT cover disc is called "Acid daze" and contains 18 British psych classics. There's stuff there I never thought I'd hear again. Some oof it I don't want to, but there are some gems like Dantalian's Chariot doing Madman Running through the Fields, My White Bicycle, My Friend Jack & The Thoughts of Emerlist Davjack. As good as any compilation you might pay for, in other words. I never thought I'd listen to The Fugs again either, and it might be better not to- they were of their time and never really listenable much past twice. Second time to be sure you got the joke! Maybe I'm wrong - I have the album with a picture of the moon somewhere (or is that solo Ed Sanders) - I might blow the dust off it.


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Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Thanks Bassman

Thanks Bassman. The song "Undeniably Human" could pass for Robbie's work without question.

Appreciate your response.

PEACE


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Posted by:

Amanda

Web: My link

Subject: Garth, Empty Now, Frank

The link is a description of the Burrito Deluxe line-up and who does what. Several members of my family will be attending the shows.

Empty Now: Good morning. It is very nice to read your posts again with my coffee. I remember when you first began to write last summer...I looked forward to your posts everyday. You wrote once about the song "Sara" and how it affected you so much, that you listened to nothing else for a good while. The "Sara" post really touched my heart, but I didn't respond at the time. Sometimes, in my experience, there are people and thoughts that are too lovely to touch and I don't mean touch in the literal sense. One of my favorite film quotes is from "American Beauty"..."there's so much beauty in the world. Sometimes I feel like I'm seeing it all at once, and it's too much. My heart fills up like a balloon that's about to burst..." Eventually I did respond to the "Sara" post after you became upset and I wanted to comfort you. Then...a poster who was on vacation, posted anonymously to me, as The Lurker. The post simply stated, "Amanda, why do you try so hard?" Why anyone could react negatively to one person reaching out to another...very sad and mean... indeed. Well, Empty Now, I tried so hard because you are worthy of the effort. Never leave us again for too long. BTW, it was I who posted that the personal Band experiences were loveliest for me. I do appreciate the analysis of lyrics as well...more reading than participating.

Frank: I consider your comparison of me to the Olive Carey character, quite a compliment. I am extremely proud of the genes I was given through my pioneer women ancestors...red and white.


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Posted by:

WS Walcott

Subject: the fugs/ band solo LPs

When I was a kid my older brother had a Fugs LP "Tenderness Junction" I think it was a 2 lp set. I tried listening to it once, but I think it was just too much for a 13 year old to handle.

Somebody was asking about Band solo LPs. I would recommend Robbies first 2 albums and Levons RCO All Stars.

By the way, I was in the pawn shop today and they had The Band "Stand Up" on cd. I guess it must have ben released as a single. But they wanted the same price as a regular cd. I have High On The Hog anyway, but it would have been nice to have the cd single. But not at that price.


Entered at Thu May 1 16:47:47 CEST 2003 from (61.240.164.131)

Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines
Web: My link

Subject: The Fugs

The Fugs: “Wet Dreams” was originally debuted on the LP ‘Tenderness Junction’, ‘T.J.’ was the first of four records made for Warner Bros (the other three being “Belle of Avenue A”, “It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest” and the live “Golden Filth” - all classics) during the late 60s - early 70s, and until very recently were the only Fugs albums not available on CD.

I don’t know what kind of deal Robbie Robertson struck with Rhino Homemade (obviously it was amicable if Robbie is autographing the product), but Ed Sanders (Fugs founder with Tuli Kupferberg) says he never got a dime from Rhino for the recent 3 CD ‘Electromagnetic Steamboat’ Fugs re-issue of the Warner Bros. material. I tend to think Warners believe they have a lock on the rights to this stuff because of our recent discussions of Van Morrison and his experience with W.B. Ed Sanders and Tuli Kupferberg say they plan to release “official” versions of the W.B. lps in the near future. It should be interesting to see how that plays out.

In the meantime,,, the Fugs are planning re-union gigs for NYC this summer and currently finishing up the recording of “The Final Fugs CD - Part 1” (which includes a little ditty called "Miriam" - Telling the story of how two about-to-be-famous musicians are mistaken for members of the Manson family as they approach the pool at the Tropicana Motel on Santa Monica Boulevard - Janis Joplin, Miriam Sanders, Phil Ochs & Kris Kristofferson on hand, July 1970. Omnia mutantur, Latin for "everything changes."

Check out the “Official” Fugs website at the link above.


Entered at Thu May 1 16:38:08 CEST 2003 from host2.pgfm.com (12.13.177.66)

Posted by:

David Powell

Location: In the Georgia pines

Subject: The Fugs

I remember the first Fugs album I heard was "Virgin Fugs -- For Adult Minds Only". There were songs about Saran Wrap & Coca Cola that suggested somewhat imaginative uses of those products. Needless to say, it definitely wasn't the type of endorsement that the manufacturers desired. {:-)


Entered at Thu May 1 16:10:02 CEST 2003 from (216.88.34.18)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Subject: Happy May Day to those so inclined :)


Entered at Thu May 1 16:07:25 CEST 2003 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

Posted by:

b_lee

Subject: oops

Man, that was supposed to be "He wrote "Hope In A Hopeless World", which was recorded by Widespread Panic." Screwed up an edit. Speaking of being in hurry...sorry!


Entered at Thu May 1 16:02:33 CEST 2003 from plantlogic.com (209.195.208.11)

Posted by:

bassmanlee

Web: My link

Subject: Phil Roy

Bob - Phil Roy is an interesting and very nice guy who now lives in our (Philly) area - West Chester, PA, I believe. He recently moved back to the area - he grew up in North Phila. - after living in LA for a time. He wrote "Hope In A Hopeless recorded by Widespread Panic. (XPN played it heavily a few years back.) While in LA he became friends with several actors, including Nicholas (Coppala) Cage. As a result he's had songs on numerous soundtracks and was shown extensively in a recent Biography feature on Cage, wherein he was just identified as "friend of" and unfortunately not identified as a musician or recording artist! We saw Phil at the concerts in King of Prussia last summer, and got an advance copy of "issues + answers", his "new" disk. At that time he did not have a label and had produced the record himself. It's pretty good but wanders a bit style-wise. A few songs sound like they were written for soundtracks. "Undeniably Human" uses a sample from some other group, but I'm not sure who. When I saw him he was solo, but he is an inventive guitar player and was able to back himself quite nicely. He will be at the Point on the 14th. (Web site above.) Does that help?


Entered at Thu May 1 15:52:41 CEST 2003 from 245.41.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.41.245)

Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: Rosalind

Rosalind I agree that some GB veterans can be patronizing and worse to newcomers, but in this case the joke is on Crabgrass...he failed to recognize that Jerry's "misspelling" of "Colin" (Powell) as "Colon" was intentional...picking up on a current joke about how the US is in trouble because it's run by a "Dick, Bush, and a Colon."

...anyone who calls someone else an "idiot" on the basis of e-mail oversights is grasping at straws...I get e-mails all the time from other folks here on the University of Kansas campus (yes I am a college "boy" as you might say but try not to hold that against me or make assumptions...don't underestimate me I won't underestimate you as Dylan sang) who are Professors, etc., and their correspondence is often sloppy as hell...because they are in a hurry, not because they are dumb...I've never known anyone who uses e-mail not to make a silly error or two...the medium lends itself to that... but I agree with you that there needs to be less namecalling in this GB and more acceptance...

Come on back Jerry you're always welcome here...


Entered at Thu May 1 14:53:19 CEST 2003 from (12.31.43.47)

Posted by:

bob wigo

Subject: Phil Roy

Anyone here familiar with the music of Phil Roy? I heard a song on WXPN this morning entitled "Undeniably Human". His vocals and the instrumentation could easily be mistaken for Robbie Robertson's solo work. Just wondering if anyone else may have noticed the striking resemblance.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Boobs A Lot

Richard.....thank you very much for the Boobs A Lot tip. That along with Wet Dreams from the Fugs are up there in my quirky mind for some reason. Now if I can just get Rooty-Toot-Toot from John Sebastian's Cheapo-Cheapo Productions CD...... without paying a million dollars to Rhino Home Made....I'll be happy.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: James Taylor Fans

JT fans I need a little help from you. I want to buy either the "Beacon Theater DVD or his newest one "Pull Over." I read many of the reviews on Amazon.com and that proved to be....well I was more mixed up that ever. Apparently everyone agrees that the sound and picture on "Beacon" is extraordinary; but the editing will drive you crazy. On "Pull Over" maybe best performance ever with Russ Kunkle back on drums; but the sound and the lack of "wide-screen" put off others. I have since read that there is a wide-screen version. Why do I care I still have a Sony XBR from 1985 :o)

I respect the thoughts of the guestbook so if anyone can give me a nod (maybe buy both) I would appreciate it. Thanks again.

Peter thanks for the great sense of humour.....now......wash down that tablecloth and bring on some more SPAM :o) At this point we all break into the Monty Python Spam Song.


Entered at Thu May 1 14:32:14 CEST 2003 from (216.88.34.18)

Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: Answer to Empty Now on TNTDODD

Empty Now: The 'Na na na na na na' chorus has historical roots. When a Southern town fell, it was customary for the Union troops to climb the town's church belltowers and ring the bells as a signal of victory and celebration. Northern towns would also ring their own bells when a significant Confederate city fell, ie. Atlanta or Richmond. So the line 'And the bells were ringing, and they went na na na na na na' is a reflection of a Southerner's hearing this as an 'in your face' demonstration, further adding to a sense of loss, bitterness, etc.


Entered at Thu May 1 14:20:24 CEST 2003 from hse-hamilton-ppp189938.sympatico.ca (64.229.1.97)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Empty Now: I apologize for being so dogmatic at times....I'm a student of Historical Materialism....;-D......There are some posters (like yourself and Al Edge) who are "clever" with words and who show some love and emotion...........

One fave Dylan Lyric (Precious Angel) which shows "cleverness" with words and emotion....

You're the queen of my flesh, girl, you're my woman, you're my delight
You're the lamp of my soul, girl, and you touch up the night
But there's violence in the eyes, girl, so let us not be enticed
On the way out of Egypt, through Ethiopia, to the judgment hall of Christ

Shine your light, shine your light on me
Shine your light, shine your light on me
Shine your light, shine your light on me
Ya know I just couldn't make it by myself
I'm a little too blind to see


Entered at Thu May 1 14:03:10 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: A serious risk against my popularity

I read recently something like « the best posts are those who share the band members experience”
My hobby, over all what i could find in the GB, is to be informed about the text, the context and the meaning of the songs, to death. This is a strange mania for a simple musician

I must admit that the last link from BEG about Handsome Lake is a perfect model of what i really hope (for other songs)

Although i was schocked by ‘others are more concerned with being "clever" with words’ (This is exactly me, my second prefered Sport, after Football)....it sounds a little “Principal Attorney”...Every day in the GB there is a Principal Attorney who comes “Stop! You’re all wrong! This is what must be written..., etc....” Is she the same BEG ?

Note: The real Principals Attorneys of the GB, i’ll never even call them by name and never address them. BEG: YOU ARE the Magic of the GB.


Entered at Thu May 1 13:47:47 CEST 2003 from netcache-2004.public.lawson.webtv.net (209.240.198.63)

Posted by:

rosalind

Subject: Frank ... Thank You

Boy ... That was nice Frank...Just when I think nobody out there gets me.. I throw ya a kiss fer that...

Now down to Jerry from St. Paul. Jerry won't read this. He hasn't been back here since some asshole named Crabgrass made a dip-shit remark because he doesn't have time spell-check his words while he's working his ass off every night at the Pioneer Press. Jerry, and I'm speakin' for him here since he's a little mystified and disappointed that real respect and love for a group of musicians isn't enough to fit into a place dedicated to those five musicians. Why? Simply because of a few miss-spelled words on a page. I've been here before. I got a good dose of this joint. I know how things work here, and I know how exclusive this place is, and how just about every new blood that arrives here is quickly choked out by veteran guestboogers who think that this little world will not spin if they don't contribute. You are wrong. If a place like this does not accept new blood it will die...from sludge. PLEASE TREAT NEW CONTRIBUTERS WITH DECENCY. They do not know the inner-working of this exclusive VIP world-wide Band celebration. You could do the Band's music a lot of harm by poisioning the Band's new audience with this crap! and I know that NOBODY here wants to do that! Right?

I "tease" old posters who know the score because It's Fun. and I know they don't mind at all..


Entered at Thu May 1 11:51:02 CEST 2003 from (81.22.75.26)

Posted by:

Empty Now

Subject: I cannot resolve my problems by avoiding them, but by going through them

Al Edge: I am disapointed by your less-than-10000-words post. You were in the Heysel, I was too. I always considered the GBers mature people who discuss things without passion just for the interest and, why not, for the glory of The Band.

Why discussing The Heysel in the GB ?

Every time i heard TNTDODD, knowing that someone like Robbie never says something without reason and sense. I always tried to afford a concrete significant to the La la la….in TNTDODD. Sorry, the only convincing answer came from the Football Stadiums.

Peter « American Stars and Bars » is that tune very used in Stadiums by the supporters of all the sport, specially after a victory.

Why i also interpelled Mr Lars and Mr David. For their rigor and their knowledge in both music an US history. The fact is that the tune has also a Federate Meanning…

If I wont have a reply in the next days for further explanations, i will self - state that i am right

Back to the Heysel, i always talked about the Tragedy in a cold manner, without guilting someone, or putting the fault on someone. Like all the Football lovers of the world before me, I was a Reds supporter. « my wife » like all the women in the world before her was a Juve supporter. Things could be normal.
The event is worth discussing even in the GB, for more than backround with TNTDODD. The English Football teams were at the Top at that, Nottingham, Everton, Tottenham also, when they were stooped stupidly and paid a unfair penalty (Fortunately, Thanks Manchester). I believe, Al Edge, you are the only one in my Next Of Kin who can be positive concerning this tragedy.
I still believe that it was the fault of no-one, excepted the brittleness of Belgian constructions or simply…..The Beer (Thanks Kalervoo, from an inveterate soldier of The Consumming Society)

Kalervoo, Al….You are a whole part of the Magic of the GB


Entered at Thu May 1 11:13:59 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: Spam, spam, spam..wonderful spam

Ah Spam the unsung hero of America. People always go on about Levis, Coca-Cola, Rock'n'Roll, the Marshall Plan, Jazz, etc. Yet they forget the role played by SPAM in the the postwar years

Millions of cans were sent to feed the Red Army during World War II, enabling it to crush the Nazis and drive on through to Berlin.

SPAM is still a part of the diet of many islands in the Pacific that were (or still are) hosts to US military...Guam is a good example!!

But more importantly the part of Japan I live in, Hormel (the makers of fine SPAM) have a factory here (I believe it is the only one outside the continental USA).

Japan is a fish-eating country, isn't it? Yes, except that on the islands of what was once the Kingdom of the Ryukyus PORK (alternately known as "The other white meat") is found in most traditional dishes (an influence from the heyday of trade with China).

The last great battle of World War II was fought here (before Hiorshima & Nagasaki ushered in the Atomic Age) and all the livestock was wiped out. In fact, after 1945, local politicians sent groups of people (with US help) to go to the States to buy cows, pigs and goats (goat sashimi is a delicacy ....a man's dish....the women are rather smart, I think, in avoiding eating raw goat!) to bring back here. In the meantime the US military, after having established several bases, supplied the local markets and stores with cans of SPAM in order to help feed the locals. to this day people(even my mother-in-law) still use SPAM in several dishes. one such dish is stir-fried veggies and spam.

On a personal note I was taken aback when confronted with SPAM for the first time living in this part of the world as back home in Canada both my mother and grandmother had stopped buying it in 1971 (and also because everytime I see Spam I keep thinking about Monty Python and that silly little Viking chorus pops up in my head)!!!

Even if Spam has played an important role in US foreign policy since the1940s I won't let my wife buy it, so when she makes the aforementioned traditonal food she has to use real pork. And my daughter has standing orders that if served Spam at school for lunch she doesn't have to eat it.

Canned corned beef..weeeelll, that's another story for another time!!


Entered at Thu May 1 10:31:07 CEST 2003 from du-tele3-175.mailbox.co.uk (195.82.121.175)

Posted by:

Peter Viney

Subject: SPAM in a can & FM

Spam in the can. John, how did you know that it changed my life? I remember it as if it was yesterday. I was ten going on eleven. On Saturdays we always had SPAM, corned beef and a tomato for lunch with salad cream. There I was sitting at the red and white checked tablecloth (plastic) toying with this foul pink meat and plotting how I would grow up, become a politician, rule the world, slaughter my enemies and retire with a fat pension (I was too young to add screwing the secretaries to the dream). Anyway, the SPAM was so disgusting that I closed my eyes as I propelled it towards my mouth, thus enabling me to focus my mind properly on the radio, just as Jerry Keller’s “Here Comes Summer” came on. I spat out the SPAM and started singing along. Never again could I nurse that foul ambition to be a politician! Instead I resolved to play football for Fulham (well, they had Johnny Haynes in those days) and form a pop group called The Rolling Beetles simultaneously. SPAM changed my life. But unfortunately it didn’t work out as I’d planned … and no one believes that I'd chosen that name in 1958. I'd even drawn a picture of the first LP sleeve in crayon.

There must be webcams here linked to The Band GB. First John D knew about SPAM, and now Dave Z has discovered what I’ve been doing this week. (Thanks for adding the underwear, the truth would have been embarrassing). Actually, I’ve been obsessing on tracks 16-18, though Thrown Down had a serssion on replay too. When Buckingham & Nicks throw these songs ‘Say Goodbye’ and ‘Goodbye Baby’ deliberately at each other it’s very powerful. They save the best till last for me, but it’s a great album. If they could have shaved it from 76 minutes (it’s really a double- I think it’s longer than Tusk) to two or three tracks shorter, it’d be near perfect.


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Posted by:

FRANK

Roz thanks so much your informative response to my query..i appreciate it...i know your musicla tastes like all of here i expect are broad and varied, but the site a broad church so post away..i enjoy your contributions, feel i walk away knowingsomething i did,nt know before...ascerbic of wit and not taken to suffering fools gladly i don,t need 20/20 vision to see you have a kind/warm heart....i don,t know Libby Titus but for some reason this lady comes into my head when you post...i expect that like the likes of Lil and Amanda many many years from now you will evolve into the type of woman portrayed by the great Olive Carey in the John Ford classic The Searchers-think the front porch of the Jorgensen ranch] the strong type of woman whom Alan Le May said ''just kept on a comin and finally settled Texas'' now given that the response to my Robert Capa /BAND query was somewaht less tha a deluge here,s the answer. Robert Capa was romantically involved with John Hammond jnr mother for about three years.......se i told you it was tenuous. all this talk about the devils buttermilk [alcohol] on the site recently rminded me of a scene form Bonanza...Hoss walksinto a bar and asks the bartender [a Walter Brennan type] ''what type of whiskey have you got'' reply ''bad,very bad and gutrot'' Hoss says in that case just give me the bad''


Entered at Thu May 1 09:37:29 CEST 2003 from cache-hki-5.inet.fi (194.251.240.113)

Posted by:

Kalervo

Location: Finland
Web: My link

Subject: Historical aspects and lots of thank yous

lKiitos David Powell, Fred and Brown Eyed Girl for your fine messages!

Oh yes David Native people has had their revenge with the casinos. But I' d rather see the spiritual rise of GA' s (Gamblers Anonymous) in those areas!

Many thanks Brown Eyed Girl for so nice words. Something from my 'cleverness' is ruined because English isn' t my native language, but you are right, I am old and experienced enough to trust in my heart more than in some word plays. And I am the girl-boi like Robbie (as Butch has named him - in his testosterone pride). I don' t respect one-sideness and alexthymia of left-brain males.

And thanks my friend that you brought the strong lyrics of The Code of Handsome Lake!

Fred: You are right with the importance of historic perspective. A real wise message. And I apologize that I have been too harsh on the friends of old music. I love music from every era, but I have this 'trauma' being one the real few middle-aged people who genuinely love today' s music as much as the music of the past. I know this is mostly historic site, but to me its too historic. I mean when you have talked hundred times about same names, same music only way to get some new out of them is filatelia..i.e. bring out details that have only value of curiosity...But this maybe mainly only my problem.


Entered at Thu May 1 07:53:43 CEST 2003 from sttn-sh3-port24.snet.net (204.60.44.24)

Posted by:

Todd Atkinson

Subject: Mystery Train

Peter V: You are correct. According to his book, Levon plays bass on Mystery Train while Billy Mundi and Richard do the double drumming.
He also mentions that Billy Mundi plays drums on "Ain't Got No Home," because Levon wanted to play the bass line.


Entered at Thu May 1 07:43:02 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Kalervo: Unfortunately, with or without God's help (or the help of the gods) there was no way the Norht American aboriginal people could have defeated in battle "the whites"....it was never a fair fight from the outset. Especially when one side had technology (18th & 19th century) at its disposal while the other didn't. (the same can be applied to the European colonization of Africa and Asia)

On another note, you can't go bashing around "old" music from the 60s & 70s on a web-site the focus of which is a band that was formed in the 50s/60s and broke up in the 1970s (a band whose musical influences can be traced back to the 19th century, and one of the members whose solo career has delved into music that goes even further back in time). I understand your point, that there is a lot of new music to hear and enjoy (or not to enjoy as the case may be), but the historian in me (that was my major in university) cringes when hearing people dismiss the past (be it music, sports, politics, etc). If people paid more attention to what has happened in the past (good or bad) then the world as we know it would be in better shape today (I'm a firm believer of this, much to the chagrin of my students!).

Furthermore, listening to music from "the past" evokes memories; For example if I hear the song Our House by Madness I immediately think of one of the summers I spent working in Banff! I hear anyone singing "Please release me, let me go...." I visualize my father in the kitchen, as he used to sing that song all the time when he cooked. When I listen to Led Zeppelin's Misty Mountain Hop I remember the first girl I ever kissed (and by kiss, I mean the type of kiss that is a mixture of tenderness, passion and teenage lust), but it also reminds me of how later she broke my heart (actually ripped it out of my chest, stomped on it several times and threw it in the river would be more like it!). I could go on....

but hopefully I've made my point: it's good that you find new sources of music exhilarating, but stop "complaining" that others don't. For the record, I like reading your posts regarding some of the new music you listen to(and have followed some of your links....some stuff I liked, some I didn't)


Entered at Thu May 1 06:57:59 CEST 2003 from cpe-65-25-199-100.mn.rr.com (65.25.199.100)

Posted by:

Dave Z

Location: Chaska, MN

Come out wherever you are... Peter V... you've had enough time alone with that new Fleetwood Mac CD... I can see you dancing in your underwear in front of your circa 70's Stevie Nicks poster... hey, wait a minute, that's my projection... and the poster looks like Sheryl Crow... brawh! brawh! (supposed to be a crow sound)... Anyway, tell the truth...... is not "Thrown Down" the best Fleetwood Mac song ever written!!!... or is it just this cheap red wine I'm sipping tonight... hey, my paintings don't look half bad... gotta go... ha ha ha.... Danko rules!!!!!!


Entered at Thu May 1 06:05:53 CEST 2003 from hse-hamilton-ppp190115.sympatico.ca (64.229.2.20)

Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie in BAM 1988

BAM: Did you talk about the Indian aspects with most of the musicians, or just Manu?

ROBBIE: No, everybody. I gave them this little pep talk. I wanted it to be very Americana. Even with U2, you hear a very typical Indian beat on that song. It's all over the place.

BAM: Did you actually play them any tapes of Indian sounds?

ROBBIE: Um-hm. I played them a tape of a thing that I had with just me playing a tremolo guitar and a tom-tom. It had that feel to it. They heard it and they said "Oh, I get it."

BAM: Do you think it's obvious enough musically in the finished product that if you played it for Indian musicians, they would pick up on it right away?

ROBBIE: I just did. I was just in probably one of the most spiritual Indian environments in the world this last week [in New Mexico], and these people allowed me to do what I wanted to do there [for a video shoot], based on this impression that they got from the music. It made me feel good. It isn't obvious, and it isn't hammering anybody over the head, but they got it completely.

BAM: Would you call these experiences you've had with the Indians in New Mexico religious experiences, or more just sort of getting in touch with nature?

ROBBIE: It was a religious experience, but it depends on how you see religion. It was a revelation, and this thing that you wanted to be true in your heart, you wanted to believe that this was the way it is with some people somewhere, and all of a sudden - the validity of it, right there in front of you...

It was incredibly gratifying to see that this isn't my imagination, this is real life, and everything else...

This is the real item, something that's always been that way and we've missed something, it's gone right by us...

God, they simplified things that just made it like, "Of course, what are we talking about? Why are we dealing with life like this?"

These people just see what's special and what's not special, they ignore and pray for and they wish it better. No big qualms about it, no preaching about it, anything at all. It's just "this is balance and this is not."


Entered at Thu May 1 05:51:22 CEST 2003 from bu187.nirai.ne.jp (218.40.170.187)

Posted by:

Fred

Subject: John D, Bill & bassamanlee

Thank Yous to John D & Bill about confirming the Ronnie Hawkins TV show.....

Bill: About Ajax.....during a trip to Europe in the early 70s I came across the name of the Dutch football team Ajax while reading the Herald Tribune (I was almost 9 at the time & I got my dad to but the paper so I could find out the hockey score) and I thought "Wow the named a soccer team after a town in Ontario!"

bassmanlee: I bought Rag Picker's Dream a while ago and I really like it. It's rather laid back in tone and even though Mark Knopfler isn't one of the better vocalists around (I guess that's why he is a good guitar player), his voice lends well to the songs on the CD.


Entered at Thu May 1 05:51:09 CEST 2003 from ool-18bc7fb9.dyn.optonline.net (24.188.127.185)

Posted by:

Bayou Sam

Location: ny

Subject: Chect Fever

Steve Hoffman = it means that there's hope for the world.


Entered at Thu May 1 04:37:26 CEST 2003 from (61.240.164.210)

Posted by:

Richard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: correction

haha,, that should read "_such_ an ace rock-a-billy cat".


Entered at Thu May 1 04:31:58 CEST 2003 from 173.41.cm.sunflower.com (24.124.41.173)

Posted by:

Ray Pence

Subject: Clay

favorite solo Band albums:

Contact from the Underworld of Red Boy, Robbie Robertson

Sea to the North, Garth Hudson

Times Like These, Rick Danko

Whispering Pines, Richard Manuel

American Son, Levon Helm

...I list these in no particular order...all essential...to paraphrase Ray Charles when he talked about the absurdity of choosing which Beatles songs he liked best...said it's like deciding between cabbage and red beans, it all tastes good!


Entered at Thu May 1 04:25:42 CEST 2003 from (61.240.164.210)

Posted by:

RIchard

Location: St Catharines

Subject: "Get Rhythm" / "Boobs A Lot"

“Get Rhythm”: It's sometimes easy for me to forget that Johnny Cash was suck an ace rock-a-billy cat in the 50s. Although there's tons of good stuff on the Sun Box, "Get Rhythm" is about my favorite J.C. song from this period. There’s just something about the way the words trip off the tongue when you sing it that’s reminiscent of the very best Chuck Berry. And, of course, the NRBQ version (on 'At Yankee Stadium' - still my favorite album by them) featuring Big Al Anderson is the definitive version, IMO. Thanks for the mamories ,, uh,, memories...

John D: The more melodious (!) Holy Modal Rounders’ version of “Boobs A Lot” (it’s originally a Fugs tune from their “1st Album”) will become available on May 20, thanks to the fine folks at the Sundazed label. The CD is called ‘Good Taste Is Timeless”. It’s a great album from 1971 which was recorded in Nashville with guests Tracy Nelson, D. J. Fontana and Pete Drake. Also of note is the production job by Scotty Moore (don’t expect this to sound like Elvis though). Here’s the blurb from the Sundazed catalogue…

Holy Modal Rounders
Good Taste Is Timeless

FILE UNDER: Rock
TYPE: CD Debut
CATALOG #: SC 6208
STREET DATE: May 20, 2003

FIRST TIME ON COMPACT DISC-AFTER BEING HELD FOR RANSOM BY MERCILESS record collectors for decades, the Holy Modal Rounders' rarest album 'Good Taste Is Timeless' can now breathe the sweet air of freedom! Rounders’ founders Peter Stampfel and Steve Weber - the godfathers of anti-folk - fire every cap pistol in their satchel for this clat-tering, jugband-on-acid classic, cut in Nashville in 1971 with guest artists Tracy Nelson (Mother Earth), D.J. Fontana, and pedal steel legend Pete Drake. Featuring the definitive version of Rounders gonzo ditty “Boobs A Lot”, ‘Good Taste Is Timeless’ now sports fascinating new liner notes by Stampfel, and remains the pinnacle of the Holy Modal Rounders’ art.

TRACK LISTING: Once A Year / Black Bottom / Happy Scrapple Daddy Polka / Spring Of '65 / Livin' Off The Land / Love Is The Closest Thing / Boobs A Lot / Melinda / Generalonely / Alligator Man / City Blues / The Whole World Oughta Go On A Vacation


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Posted by:

Steve Hoffman

Location: Boston, MA

Subject: The Band is Everywhere

Heard "Chest Fever" played as background music at a rest stop on the Mass Turnpike today. What does this mean?


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Al Anderson? The only one that I'm familiar with was Bob Marley's lead guitarist in the mid-seventies. The first recording he worked with Bob was "Natty Dread" which brought us "Revolution"....As a teenager in Montclair, New Jersey he played in rock bands. Marley met Al in England when he was working on a project with Chris Wood, formerly of Traffic....."Dear Mr.Fantasy"....

Sheila: Yes I can understand what Levon must mean to you....Coming from the same place and having similar references.....Sure.....TNTDODD...The definitive version for me will always be from TLW.....Power, Pride, Heart, Soul, Dignity....Just like the artists who mean a lot to me.....:-D

Kalervo: You have the courage to post in your own authentic voice while others are more concerned with being "clever" with words or trying so hard to win popularity contests in this GB.....but who never show any emotion....heart....soul......Thank you for the gifts you bring to this GB!

The Code of Handsome Lake Written by Robbie Robertson
Album: Contact from the Underworld of Red Boy

*These are the People of the Longhouse
These are the People that you tried to break
These are the People of the Pines
Who Follow the Code of Handsome Lake

He drank your poison, swallowed your fire
And lay with fever four long years
He received a vision so inspired
Three messengers with painted faces appeared
On the Allegheny river at a place called Burnt House
The code was shared for the very first time
By a Seneca chief, they call Handsome Lake
With a Wounded Heart and a sober mind

*Repeat

**We are the People of the Longhouse
We are the People that you couldn't break
We are the People of the Sacred Pipe
Who Follow The Code of Handsome Lake

When the Dark Moon had come to live in your soul
Get in touch with your creator, you are not alone
These are the words
That he had spoken two hundred years ago
And today they still ring true
Like they're carved in stone
When Native life was hurled into the pit
By way of the Canon, Rum, and Greed
Oh a great fire was burned, to let the smoke rise
And show the Six Nations the code was still alive

Way Down Deep in the Bush
We Oh hi ne oh he oh we oh we we
(section repeats 4 times)

* Repeat **Repeat


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Posted by:

Rod

Subject: Seatrain and Saved

I've got 3 Seatrain albums (only one on CD though) and Watch is the only one I couldn't get into - they really missed Peter Rowan and Richard Greene on that one. Having said that "North Coast" is one of their best songs.

I thnk Richard may be playing a 2nd drum kit on Saved. For my money Saved has one of Robbie's best solos. Most of my favourite Robertson guitar solos come from the 73 - 74 years.


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Posted by:

JTull Fan

Location: Richmond

Subject: solo albums and this just in...

Clay, you'll get a lot of opinions on the solo albums but if you want the most Band-like (and with guest appearances of the other four) go for 'Rick Danko' from 1977. I find it the most satisfying and most often played by me. THIS JUST IN (from Time magazine): "DIED. Felice Bryant, 77, co-author, with her late husband Boudleaux Bryant, of such 1950's hits for the Everly Brothers as Wake Up Little Susie and Bye Bye Love; of cancer; in Gatlinburg, TN. the Bryants' more than 800 songs were also recorded by Elvis Presley, Bob Dylan, and Buddy Holly'. And I never heard of her. Am I the only one?


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Posted by:

Clay

Subject: Solo Albums

Where does someone go after purchasing all of "The Band" albums? What's next? Is there a solo album from a Band member that is generally thought of as being far superior to the others. I am also interested in hearing what some here think about Richard Manuels - Whispering Pines. A few weeks back I asked for some comments on "The Basement Tapes". I read some great comments about that album and took their advice and picked it up. Thanks in advance for any opinions or suggestions.


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Posted by:

Charlie Young

Location: Down in Old Virginny

Subject: This Place...

I do love this place when the music talk gets on a roll. Where else can you talk about Al Anderson, Rosanne Cash, Seatrain's "Watch" album (a personal favorite and I saw them play an almost Band-like concert on that tour), the song called "Boobs a Lot" (it really IS a classic) and Rick's incredible vocal on "When You Awake?" Amazing. That's what keeps me coming back here year after year.Thanks Jan!!

I'd also like to thank the governor of Virginia here for finally taking legal action against the assholes who perpetrate e-mail spam on an unsuspecting public. Since AOL is based here in Virginia, they might actually be able to do something. Let's hope so...


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Posted by:

Hi

Web: My link

Subject: Al Anderson/ NRBQ

Kay thanks for the info. on the great Al Anderson..late of NRBQ..the above link(scroll down to 8/10/2002) is to an achived radio show where Al is interviewed and mentions moving from Conn. to NM (he only works in Nashville), plays some live solo in the studio and plays some rare record stuff...

Despite all his recent success, his days in NRBQ playing live, challenged by Terry Adams is when he really hit the highlands and showed his greatness..he was unbelievable on guitar...always tasteful and original.


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Posted by:

FrankDracman

Location: Roscoe, NY

Subject: Levon in Baltimore

How lucky am I? Im flying down to FLA and bringing a van back to NY coming back on thurs may 8. On thurs may 8 Levon is playing a free concert near downtown Ballimor. billshar44@yahoo.com


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Holy Modal Rounders

I just have one question. Where can I find a CD version of the original "Boobs A Lot." A true classic.

From The Band to The War to Chilean Wines.

Tomorrow Peter Viney's true story of how "SPAM" (in the can.....not the e-mail) changed his life forever :o)


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Posted by:

Rick S.

Location: Suffern, NY

Subject: Rosanne Cash- 5/23 Nyack, NY

I'm not sure if there's a Band connection here. Rosanne Cash, Johnny's daughter, is appearing at The Helen Hayes Theater, Main Street (Rt. 59), Nyack, N.Y. (about 25 miles from New York City) on Friday May 23rd. Tickets are being sold by The Turning Point (Piermont, NY)- phone orders only, at 845- 359-1089. Their first show there, Jorma Kaukonen, on May 9th is sold out. This is a nice theater with 558 seats. You can see from anywhere there. Unfortunately I'm going away Memorial Day Weekend or I'd see Ms. Cash.


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