The Band Guestbook, November 2020

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brown eyed girl

U.S. Rep. Ocasio-Cortez raises $200K after battling Jagmeet Singh (Canadian NDP leader) in hit video game Among Us

Funds raised went toward initiatives aimed at reducing food and housing insecurity

CBC News · Posted: Nov 28, 2020 5:02 PM ET | Last Updated: November 29

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Bill M

Peter V: Nice job with the EPs and their 'pochettes'. I like that word - classier than 'sleeves' and good to have in the back pochette for Scrabble. Re the Colyer with Korner, a few years ago a local friend showed me what I remember as a 10-inch LP with what I imagine is the same material.

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brown eyed girl

31 Best Dance Movies of All Time:
Ballet, Hip Hop, Ballroom, and More

KRISTI KELLOGG AND DE ELIZABETH
MAY 11, 2020

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Jed

Most grateful-started listening to first link you sent-the YouTube. Not what I expected at all. Interesting. Thanks again-we are enjoying.

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Fred

I think the problem lies with this: when you click the link this shows up: "thebandDOThiofDOTno/guestbook/" before "aroundandaroundcom....."

You delete that "theband..." bit, then reload, it should work.

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Peter V

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Peter V

Subject: Try Again … The Dancing Class

It seems intermittent. The links work fine from Facebook. You should all bookmark Around & Around anyway!

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Bill M

Dunc: Even the occasion visit from you is better than none at all. Lord, let us cope.

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Peter V

After all these years arguing about Take a load off Fanny. A cyber-friend who teaches music mentioned on Facebook that he was doing The Weight with some students. He explained the lyrics and pointed out that the archaic meaning of BURDEN is "The refrain or chorus of a song." Then that BURDEN means A LOAD.

Phew! No one to my knowledge had mentioned that before. It's corret. I checked my big Oxford dictionary.

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Todd

Subject: Allie Sherlock - Valerie

Here's another one from Allie Sherlock. A cover of 'Valerie' which Amy Winehouse also did. Pretty lively performance, and the bass player is playing a pretty funky groove.

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Todd

Subject: Aliie Sherlock - Who's Loving You

Here's another Allie Sherlock performance. This is 'Who's Loving You' performed on the street in Dublin. She was probably about 14 years old at the time of this performance, and I think it's pretty impressive. Of course when the Jackson 5 did this tune Michael Jackson was only 11 years old, and sang the hell out of it, but he was a phenom, so hard to compare against.

I didn't initiallly realize that this was originally done by Smokey Robinson and the Miracles in 1960, and it got me to wondering if the Hawks ever did a version of this in their live shows. Seems like it would be something that Richard Manuel would have done a great job on, and I can almost hear him singing it in my mind.

But in the meantime, take a listen to Allie Sherlock's version. I think this young lady has a future.

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Todd

BEG, yes indeed. 'Achin' To Be' is definitely one of the standout tracks from that album. Good stuff!

Dunc, Also sorry to hear that your wife is struggling. Hoping for the best and sending good vibes your way. As Levon would say, "Stay strong bro".

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Achin' To Be

Dunc...I am very sorry to read that your partner is struggling at the moment. Very challenging times for both of you. All of us are sending out positive vibes.

There is a crack in everything (there is a crack in everything)
That's how the light gets in

Leonard Cohen

Todd...I found The Replacements in 1989.

She opens her mouth to speak and
What comes out's a mystery
Thought about, not understood
She's achin' to be

I've been achin' for a while now, friend
I've been achin' hard for years
Well she's kind of…

Well she's kind of like an artist
Sittin' on the floor
Never finishes, she abandons
Never shows a soul

And she's kind of like a movie
Everyone rushes to see
And no one understands it
Sittin' in their seats

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Todd

Subject: Snother?

Ha Ha, 'Snother Girl Another Planet', should have been 'Another Girl Another Planet. I guess it wouldn't be a good post about The Replacements without a mistake or two!

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Todd

Subject: Another Girl Snother Planet

At the link is a live performance by The Replacements of 'Another Girl Another Planet' recorded at the University of Wisconsin, June 1989.

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Todd

Subject: The Mats

Jed, I would recommend a compilation album from them called 'All For Nothing, Nothing at All'. It's a two disc set with Disc 1 comprised of a selection of tracks from their albums, and Disc 2, which is a lot of outtakes and alternate releases, B-Sides etc.

Two of my favorite songs by the Replacements are on Disc 2. 'Portland' (linked above) was recorded at Bearsville studios, for some sessions for 'Don't Tell a Soul' that didn't quite work out. Apparently the boys from Minneapolis didn't feel at home in the semi rural environment of Woodstock, and had some cabin fever as well as some clashes with producer Tony Berg. Nevertheless, 'Portland' is a great track that never made it to the album. Another track that I love from Disc 2 is a live recording of a cover version of The Only Ones, 'Another Girl Another Planet'.

From there, I would recommend 'Hootenanny' , 'Tim' & 'Pleased to Meet Me' and possibly 'Don't Tell a Soul'. 'Don't Tell a Soul' has some great songs, but the original release is somewhat hampered by a 1980's production sound & reverb, especially on the drums, baked into the mix which makes it sound a little dated. The box set for 'Don't Tell a Soul' has an original mix before it was gussied up for radio, which is a little more raw and natural, and to my ears, preferable. But that set is primarily for fans looks for deeper and more obscure tracks, and may not be for everyone, as not everything on it needed to see the light of day.

I've always felt that they had the musical chops and songwriting ability to be as successful as a band like REM, but didn't quite have the discipline to make a really polished album. But for many, that's part of their charm. By the way, when I referred to them as "jangly' it wasn't in The Byrds type of jingle-jangle, but more like the dictionary definition of jangly that says: "discordant ringing of non-musical metallic objects striking together". I consider myself a fan, but I think folks like Kevin J, and Dave Zuck know quite a bit more than I do, so it would good to get their perspective as well.

This quote from their bass player Tommy Stinson encapsulates everything wrong and right about the Replacements at the same time: "We wanted to be successful with everything we did, But we also were the first ones to fuck it up half the time. … Most of the time in fact. … OK, all the time."

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Dunc

Thanks guys. The reason I’ve not been posting as much is that my wife is struggling now. Sorry if I’ve missed posts. Not looking in properly every day.

Thanks Celtic Bhoy. My grandson has moved from Toryglen to Barrowfield, and he seems to be doing well, but we’re not allowed in because of this virus. Also, it’s been a little stop start because of the virus and it’s on another three week lockdown now in line with government policy. Still, he’s still in there. Did you give your e mail to Peter? I’ve been a Buddy for well over 40 years now, so Dundee, Dennistoun then Paisley. Or in other words, Average White Band, Frankie Miller then Stealers Wheel.

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Jed

You may have inspired me to consider another Replacements listen. Any suggestions where to start? Not as loud this time HAHA. The word jangly turned me on. Thanks.

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brown eyed girl

Hee Hee....As I am typing I hear a neighbour from Africa down the hall talking to someone. She works as a security guard at banks. Every time I see here, I sing...."I love a woman in a uniform".....I previously told her about Gang of Four's "Man In Uniform". It always brings a huge smile on her face.

I have Robbie's Promotional 45 RPM 30cm vinyl EP, promoting Robbie's Storyville album in the U.K.

"The Far Lonely Cry of Trains" was included on Japanese pressings of Storyville, and on the soundtrack Jimmy Hollywood (thanks to Calm I have soundtrack as well). The track on side B is from Robbie's first solo album.

Thanks to Crab who alerted me to this recording while we were in a music shop on the lower east side in NYC. He never was really a fan of Robbie...lol.....but he respected that I was.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: To Hell With Poverty

Peter...I have one EP from 1982. The Gang of Four's "Another Day/Another Dollar". All tracks written by Dave Allen, Hugo Burnham, Andy Gill and Jon King except as indicated.

"To Hell With Poverty!" – 4:59
"Capital (It Fails Us Now)" (Gill) – 4:04
"History's Bunk!" (Gill, King) – 2:59
"Cheeseburger" (Live) – 3:40 [3]
"What We All Want" (Live) – 5:24 [3]

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Peter V

Subject: Back to the Fifties

I'm working on EPs on Around & Around at the moment. Just added a highly illustrated article on generic EP sleeve designs, which is a feast of 1950s artwork.

On another topic, the Sunday Times did the twenty best live gigs ever (and missed both TLW and Academy of Music, plus Live At The Lyceum by Bob Marley) BUT they included Hal Wilner's Tribute to Leonard Cohen at Brighton. One I was actually at.

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Todd

BEG, thanks for the birthday wishes and kind words. I appreciate it.

Joe J, Congratulations on becoming a Grandpa. Glad that you enjoyed the Allie Sherlock video. She has a good deal of raw talent; and I think with a little more experience, maturity, and perhaps a little vocal coaching, she could be a superstar someday. Will be interesting to see how she's doing in the next 3 to 5 years.

JED, I've never seen the Replacements live before. I didn't start getting into them until 1989 or so when 'Don't Tell a Soul' was released. Then in the early 90's I started working my way backwards through their catalog. So I kind of missed their glory years for live concert experiences. It's kind of funny. They're one of my favorite bands, and there are many songs that I love, and others that I could do without. Sometimes in their process, I feel that they had to go the long way around to hit the target. But when they did, it was fantastic. Jangly and messy sometimes, but great nonetheless.

I get what you''re saying about loud concerts and how that can impact enjoyment. Two concerts that I attended, that were unnecessarily loud, were the Allman Brothers in the late 1980's and the group 'Living Colour' around that same time. I enjoyed the musicianship and the songs, but it was just too darn loud. And I was a youngster at the time, so it wasn't an age thing!

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Jed

Saw them open for Keef in ‘88 I believe. They were one of four bands I walked out on: The Replacements-way killer eardrum breaking loud; Grinderswitch-opened forAllmans in the 70’s-also too darn loud;Sheryl Crow-she wasn’t too loud-she and her band sucked; Roger Waters-Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking tour with EC-we left after 3 songs-there was no room for anyone but Roger in the building-his ego was too big-a genuine asswipe-even EC turned his back on roger and stopped playing. We went home. It’s probably better to be too loud rather than too crappy.

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brown eyed girl

The Band GB hopes Todd had a groovy Happy Healthy Belated BIRTHDAY (with his Box set reissue of the Replacements 'Pleased to Meet Me'

Outstanding photographer

Digs The Band, Amy Helm, Larkin Poe, The Replacements

Delightful and dazzles at all times in the GB

Celtic Bhoy...Yes I saw The Clash with Black Uhuru in Toronto. I wasn't able to see them until their last recording when Joe Strummer had his Mohawk haircut Combat Rock 1982 but hey better late than never. The one song that I still remember was...."Brand New Cadillac". My fave recordings were London Calling and the triple set Sandinista! They probably should have made it a double? While in NYC I bought _The Clash Return of the Last Gang in Town_ by Marcus Gray. Right now I can see a postcard up on my bulletin board as I post to you with Joe wearing a t-shirt....Freedom Is More Than A Job

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joe j

Todd, I did appreciate the Allie Sherlock video. Thank you much.

Last five:

George Harrison - All Things Must Pass

Derek & Dominoes - Layla...

Chicago Transit Authority

Jeff Newsom & Friends (Rollie) - The Henhouse Tapes

The Once - Time Enough

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Todd

Subject: The Replacments - Pleased to Meet Me

BEG, thanks for hipping me to the Box set reissue of the Replacements 'Pleased to Meet Me' a while back. I received it as a recent birthday gift and have been enjoying it quite a bit. I also have a similar set for their 'Don't Look Back' album, which was also well done. Both sets include CD's for a lot of the bonus tracks and a remixed vinyl for the main tracks on the album. In both cases, the vinyl is really nice. Flat, quite, and plays nicely.

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Todd

Bassmanlee, good to hear from you! Glad for you that your local boy Joe made it to the big show. You may have fewer electoral votes than Connecticut, but you have much better beaches. So that's something! My wife and I have taken a few trips down to the Delaware Coast, and really enjoyed our time there. Usually the Bethany Beach area, as it is a little quieter than the popular Rehoboth Beach area, which seems to be a hot spot for retail and other activity.

Last year we spent a long weekend at Bethany Beach in the early Fall, and enjoyed it quite a bit. On the way home we took the ferry to cross the Delaware Bay from Lewes up to Cape May, NJ which was wonderful.

Your analogy about professional wrestling is not that far off the mark, but I would posit that most everyone knows and accepts that professional wrestling is for show. I think many people, think / hope / believe, that the political world is inhabited by people who's motives are sincere, altruistic and righteous. Or it least that it should be. We may be, as Pat affectionately calls us, "heathens", but at least we're not charlatans, like so many of the knuckleheads that long for power. So there's hope there!

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Todd

Subject: Dea Matrona - Crossroads Cover

One of the things that I've really missed since March, has been live music. As a result I've been looking around on YouTube for things to listen to, to scratch that itch. One of the things I've been listening to is a lot of the street busking videos from people in Ireland. I don't know what it is about the Irish, but they certainly have a knack for music, and there's a lot of talent there.

A few weeks ago I posted a video from a young lady named Allie Sherlock who busks in Dublin, who I think has a lot of potential and natural talent. Didn't get much of response to that but check this one out.

At the link above is a trio playing on the street in Belfast. They are called "Dea Matrona" and this is a cover version of 'Crossroads' as Cream would have done it. Now I'll acknowledge that they aren't quote Ginger, Jack or Eric, but I really appreciate that they made an effort to get the sound and feel down. The bass playing during the guitar solos is pretty cool, and succeeds in getting that Jack Bruce feel. Nice to see the younger generation carrying on the tradition.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: John D TLW

John D, how the hell are ya?

Sorry to come across as an awe struck teenager, (40 years past that) but I’ve never come across anyone who was actually at one of the most iconic events of my lifetime immortalisd in Scorcese’s masterpiece.

Tell us John, can you remember any of it???

Apologies if you’ve had to do this many times John, but this is important and I’m feeling just a little awestruck!!

Any fine detail gratefully received and will be passed in to 7 mates who are all massive Band fans!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Thank you Bill M

Bill, delighted to see there is a grown up in the room to flip the conversation towards the positive rather than the evil that is Trump!

Love the song choices.... feeling much more positive and going_a_hunting is n a you Tube!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Pat B Norm J

Gents, thank you for your Trump observations!

Made me feel warm inside, kindred spirits thousands of miles apart.....

I don’t know about you but I found the hunting for songs quite cathartic......

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: BEG

Hi Beg, I hope you’re well?

Did you really post that you had seen The Clash?

I’m already hugely impressed with many of the bands you have listed here but Joe Strummer et al???

Take a bow Beg!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Dunc

Hello Dunc, great to have you back posting! Like Peter, I guess I git a little worried because we’re kind of getting to that age!

Great to hear from you Duncan and yes indeed I did get the Celtic supporters bus up to Dundee! Fond memories Although I have to say I was too young to frequent the hostelries back in the day! I had a great time (Celtic usually won) but how much more fun could I have had If I could have gone drinking in Dundee......

How is your grand son getting on at Celtic Duncan! The way the first team are playing, tell him to be on standby!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Norm and Pat B

Gents, you said it better than I ever could with the passion of people who are probably closer to the fall out than I am. Pat, I’m not sure but I just get a sense that you’re not overly impressed with Si’s view from across the pond...

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Si

Hi Si, hope you are well and not feeling too battered?

I felt you seemed much better informed than me in American politics but our fellow guest bookers seem to disagree.....

I do not pretend to have an in depth knowledge from these distant shores..... but I know a lying narcissistic orange wanker when I see one interested in nothing but himself and that last desperate grasping of the strands of power......

I find it strange that a man who has little to do with my day to day life can stir up so much anger and hatred for a man I don’t even know. Put simply he’s just a right bad yin who only cares for himself and nobody else.

The biggest worry in all of this. Is not Trump.... as we say in Glasgow, hell mend you, you got what you deserve. You must have had a pretty good idea of what you were voting for because Donald does what it says on the tin! The real concern is that I thought the US political set up was designed to guard against Mavericks/dictators/people that could do great harm..... but apparently not!

But, hey..... it’s over.... thank the good Lord!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Trump

Bill, there has been much written about the orange narcissist!

But nothing ever, surely, as succinct and on the mark as “anus horribilus!!

Even if you don’t speak Latin it tells you all you need to know about that creature.....

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Norm

Hi Norm, how are you? I hope you’re good?

I love John Cougar, in particular Cherry Bomb. But be careful there Norm, there’s a fine line between jail bait and happy go lucky fun guy dad dancing!!

Yes, feel as if I know Duncan who is from Dundee. We have exchanged some views and my home town is Glasgow. Duncan spent some time there but sadly we missed each other, shame because he seems like a lovely guy.

Glad all is well Norm, keep the faith !

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Peter v

Try the words most of Europe uses: Social Democracy.

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JQ

B. Lee - I think your analogy to pro wrestling is perfect. Americans don’t seem to be aware of the socialism all around them that they like. Medicare is likely the best example of that. But also certain hybrids of socialism and capitalism. Like the way we use well regulated monopolies to deliver utilities - no real free-market choice there for consumers. Even the manner in which they get their goddam trash collected..

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Norm J

Subject: The Same All Over

Hi B. Lee good to hear from you. It is refreshing to have a meaningful conversation with folks like Pat B, Todd, Haso, Bill M and yourself. I don't think running the country is an enviable job. However throughout my life most of the people who run the country by and large are influenced by the people with money and power too much. That very seldom changes.

I have experienced the socialist tendencies of many in my early life working for big companies with the big unions and being a union member watching the attitudes of union leaders as well. It wasn't too many years of work before I came to one personal conclusion. Too many union leaders operate with the attitude. Don't do any more than you have to. I could never accept that. For myself I decided many years ago. If I have to give whatever number of hours of my day, I want to make as much money as I can for the time I spend. That is why self employment was the way for me to go. People always got their money's worth out of me and I got paid very well for what I did.

The only real bitter pill for all of us is how our money is used. Even at the local government levels as well. Anyway at least we don't have to live in North Korea or Russia.

Hope all you folks in the USA did enjoy your Thanks Giving and everyone is safe. Hope as well not too many people pay with their lives for a big get together. Reading this morning how the US Supreme Court are all fighting among themselves over these issues.

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b.lee

Subject: Turkey Potpourri

A belated Happy Thanksgiving to all, no matter where y'all be. No turkey for Turkey Day. Plans to dine with son & DIL scrubbed at the last minute due to nervousness of both spouses. Although the Boy is only a few blocks away, he works in a commercial/retail setting and therefore has a lot of exposure. So Ms. lee dropped off the cookies and we had a door-knock dinner, thawed shrimp, rice and squash.

A few sociopolitical observations, then since there were no table arguments. (Will we remember 2020 as "The Year That Wasn't"?)

Pat B, I've always said nobody ever went broke underestimating the gullibility of the American public. See "Wrestling, Professional".

Norm J, I've also always said the the trouble with Socialism is that there are too many greedy bastards to make it work, while the trouble with Capitalism is that there are not enough altruistic bastards to make it bearable. You can quote me. I am proud to be a taxpayer as well. I just wish we got more value for our dollar and that the hogs were not in charge of the trough. I grew up in Pennsylvania, which has a flat income tax, which I strongly support. How much did you make? Multiply by this number. Send it in. Tax policy should be to raise necessary revenue not play carrot and stick games with tax credits trying to influence behavior. If you have little to no income, what good are tax credits? They only benefit the moneyed classes.

Todd, we live in an even smaller state, Delaware. Three, count 'em three electoral votes. Now inanely tied to whoever won the nationwide popular vote, I believe. But now we have the President! He's not perfect, but he is Our Joe. When you see the Wilmington skyline in the reporter's backdrop, we can see the other side of it is we go a couple of hills down the Pike.

Here's to a saner, safer New Year!

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Bill M

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Todd

Hey Pat, Happy Thanksgiving. We're good, no problems, thanks for your perspective.

The genesis of my comment came from a place that Canada is doing a better job of providing lower prices on prescription drugs. So I think there's still a lot of work to do there. And I stated that it was a case of too little too late. So I hope the next administration can do a better job in that area. But the real fight will probably be against the drug company lobbyists that wield so much influence over the policy makers in DC. Doubtful that that dynamic will change anytime soon.

Peter V, thanks for your viewpoint as well. Definitely room in the process for improvement. Years ago when I first became a voter we had mechanical voting machines in each district, and you would pull the little lever for each choice of candidate and then pull a big lever to lock in the vote. In those days we almost always had a pretty good idea of the election winners late in the evening on election night. Somehow the switch to a more computerized process has slowed things down and made it more complicated rather than more streamlined.....probably more expensive too. I kind of miss the old voting machines. Seemed to be fewer problems then.

Johl L, That's cool that you have Rollie's album. I've never actually heard his music.

Joe Frey, best of luck to you with the upcoming birth of your grandchild. Exciting news but also a nervous time, I would imagine. I agree with you that many people are reckless when it comes to this virus. Hoping that more people will wise-up soon.

Norm, the thing that I always felt bad about for people on the West coast, is because of the time difference from the East coast where the polls close earlier, it's sometimes obvious who the winner will be hours before the West coast polls have even closed. I've often thought that the news outlets should hold off on reporting until at least the time that the West coast polls close. The play by play updates are are not really necessary, are often incomplete, and can be an unnecessary influence on people in later time zones. Thanksgiving Day is almost over head in the US. As Arlo Guthrie sings, "We had a Thanksgiving dinner that couldn't be beat!"

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Pat B

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Jon Lyness

Todd, funny you mention Rollie as I put his album on this morning! It's been quite a while. Happy Thanksgiving, all.

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Norm J

Subject: Geographical Area

Todd, your comment about how small your state is reminded me of some folks down there on another site I use. I was trying to explain to some people who don't seem to understand the make up of Canada's provinces. I tried to get them to use google earth. The eastern states are all so small.

You could draw a line about from Jacksonville Florida, over to Mobile, Alabama, then north to Cleveland, then east to around New York and that is about the size of British Columbia. For that area we have a population of a little less than 6 million people.

As the provinces of Ontario and Quebec are so much more densely populated (they are very big provinces as well). Anyway our votes in federal elections are pretty useless.

As Peter was saying this "lame duck" period after federal elections in the USA just makes no sense. Particularly with a lunatic like Trump. He has a lot of time now to do a lot of damage and he has proven that he is so spiteful he will screw up the country as much as possible to make it hard for the new government just with his sour grapes attitude.........now after a word from our sponsor.........back to the music.

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Joe Frey

Barney Hoskyns. I could never get his name right.

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Bill M

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Joe Frey

Subject: Happy Thanksgiving all

Wishing everyone a safe and healthy holiday. I am especially thankful as we await the birth of our second grandchild in early December. When you have such an important event, you kind of root for community responsibility as it relates to the pandemic. I guess I am amazed at how many reckless folks are out there. Its almost like, if they can't see it, it doesn't exist. True doubting Thomases.

On the musical front, I watched the Story of Lowell George last night on Amazon Prime. I commend it to all. It filled in a lot of blanks for me. The Band was presented as a pivotal group that shaped the musical landscape moving from the late 1960s to the 1970s. They even had some of the stock performance footage for the making of The Band album. Russ Titleman, the producer of Little Feat's first album, referred to MFBP and The Band as two of the finest albums ever recorded.

There was a lot of screen time for Barry Hoskins, so if you are not a fan, please be forewarned.

Have a great day everyone. joe

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brown eyed girl

THANKSGIVING!

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Peter V

OK, I’m a foreigner, though one with an American grandson. Anyway, the world is affected by all of this. If Biden can control the Senate, an electoral commission is needed to implement two essential amendments. First, popular vote for President. Not difficult. More difficult is eliminating the lame duck period of pardons, selling off Alaskan rights etc. It is a ludicrous situation. In the UK, the new Prime Minister is usually in office by lunchtime after the vote. Some get delayed a couple of days, no more.

The US system with the Inauguration was designed to ape a Coronation, hence preparation time. Actually, that doesn’t happen in a monarchy- the coronation is a ceremonial occasion about a year later, but the new monarch is in office immediately. That could be done with the Inauguration. When the German Federal system was designed after WW2 , they went for a US federal system, but added the UK concept of a non-political Head of State. The Chancellor equates to the UK Prime Minister, but the President will be an older distinguished person fulfilling the role of monarch … or governor-general. That non-political Head of State deals with the handover between political leaders – swearing in the new political leader (or in the UK, kissing the monarch’s hand!). That will unfortunately not tack on to the US (or French) system, but you could have (say) the Supreme Court swear in a new president as soon as possible. If you have a popular vote, you eliminate the Electoral College. It is outdated, and the “Land” v “People” bias already exists in the Senate. You do not need it twice. States could be compelled to implement systems for certification of their popular vote within seven days. The world watches open-mouthed at mechanisms in place designed for 18th century transport, when it would take days to cross Pennsylvania east to west, let alone communicate between Georgia and Massachusetts.

Much as Boris Johnson has tried to undermine the UK Civil Service and continues to do so, the other important element is Civil Servants who are independent and NOT appointed by political parties. That means continuity during an instant change of Prime Minister of Cabinet Minister.

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Pat B

One last boondoggle. The $200 credit card for seniors. $8 billion from the Trust Fund to pay for it which includes $20 million to print and mail letters to the old folks in time for the election. Recall to that this scummy con man said he'd implement a new health care system weeks into his regime. Four years later he's issuing these idiotic EO's which do next to nothing but let him fulminate on how he is the most popular president ever. Good riddance.

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Todd

Subject: Happy Thanksgiving

BEG, thanks for those quotes from Robbie about The Last Waltz. Those are great. The brother has a way with words!

I'm glad that your health coverage is working well for you. Canada certainly seems to perform well for it's citizens in that area. Canada also has a lower cost of prescription drugs than in the United States where they are way out of control. This is not a defense of Trump, and probably doesn't get reported in the news, but one of the things that he has been working on is trying to get the prices of prescription drugs lowered by cutting out some of the bureaucracy in the middle. It's probably a case of too little too late, but we can be hopeful. Seems like a good thing to try to do.

Interesting connections between your Naturopath and introducing you to your partner. Value added service there! Cool that he has a Robbie connection as well.

I really don't talk much about politics anymore, because the majority of people seem so set in their opinions, it's difficult to have an open minded discussion, that it ends up being very discouraging, so I tend to keep my views to myself. And I'm not looking to change anyone's mind about anything....just looking for truth.

John D. great that you were at The Last Waltz. One of those life experiences that last a lifetime. I know that the late Rollie was also there, and it was always fun to hear him mention it in these pages. Quite a cool experience to have had.

We've got the turkey all prepped and ready to pop in the oven tomorrow morning. Will be a much quieter Thanksgiving this year due to trying to avoid Covid. Usually we go to an extended family celebration with upwards of 25-30 people of all ages and generations. This year will just be my wife and I and daughters at home, which I think will be kind of nice in it's own way. Will miss seeing some other family that we don't get to see much during the year....especially this year. In spite of the stress of this year and general turmoil that seems to be constantly spinning, we still have much to be thankful for and will count our blessings. I'm a lucky man. And maybe blast out some 'Caravan' too. Van the man!

Happy Thanksgiving!

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JQ

Any thoughts from the Brits here on Maradona’s passing? And good personal stories from that fateful day?

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Helpless Coyote Dry Your Eyes Caravan

WE WERE THE BAND
NOVEMBER 2016
Vanity Fair
ROBBIE ROBERTSON

"As soon as Neil Young took the stage, I could tell no one at Winterland was feeling better than he was. His vocal was so moving on "Helpless," his beautiful Canadian song of remembrance. When Joni's high falsetto voice came soaring in from the heavens, I looked up, and I saw people in the audience looking up too, wondering where it was coming from. Then, when Joni came out and the lights hit her, she seemed to glow in the dark. I was slightly surprised when she walked over and kissed me. She looked thoroughly enchanting as she sang "Coyote," and it sounded sexier than ever.

I had to smile when Neil Diamond joined us. In his blue suit and red shirt, he looked like he could have been a member of the Gambino family. He sang "Dry Your Eyes," a tune he and I had written together—a track that not too many people were familiar with, although Frank Sinatra did cover it. Toward the end of the song I heard myself yelling, "Yeah!"

A spotlight shone down on the middle of the stage, and Van Morrison walked into it. This was the way I wanted to introduce him, to not say his name—let the crowd do that. I could see Van had abandoned the idea of wearing his private-eye overcoat. Instead he had chosen a snug-fitting maroon outfit with sequins—something like a trapeze artist might wear. He looked ready for action, but I didn't know yet what he had in mind.

We slammed into "Caravan." With his barrel chest stuck out like Caruso, Van poured on the steam. The place went berserk as Van sang out, "Turn up your raa-dio!" He moved across the stage, and each time he let out a "one more time," he kicked his leg in the air or threw his arms over his head. Finally he dropped the mike to the floor and walked off, still hitting the accents with his hand above his head. Now I understood why he was dressed like an acrobat.

At the end of the last chorus, there were only the five of us in the world. No audience. No celebration. Nobody. Just the sound of the Band ringing in my ears. This can't be the final anything. This cannot be the end. What we have can never die, never fade away. We all raised our arms in the air and thanked the crowd. I adjusted the hat on my head, stepped to the microphone with what little strength I had left, and said, "Good night—good-bye."

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brown eyed girl

Hi Glenn....Gobble Gooble. Also, love "Don't Do It." You sang it to me once. Yes, I remember oh so well.

Hi Todd...I have my Ontario Health Insurance thanks to my party the NDP (third party New Democratic Party of Canada). Heartfelt thanks to Tommy Douglas and NDP from Saskatchewan. He just happens to be the grandfather of Canadian actor Keifer Sutherland. I pay out of my own pocket to see my Naturopath but because I pay into an insurance company via of my work I receive 80% back. She also introduced me to my partner and he has a connection with Robbie Robertson so there ya go....simple twists of fate.

Encore. Robbie Robertson Talks Last Waltz And Thanksgiving

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Todd

Norm, that's rough that you essentially have to pay taxes twice, on your tug that you sold. They're trying to do something like that here in Connecticut with Estate taxes which could result in double taxation.

I actually think my Federal income taxes are pretty reasonable, but the Connecticut State taxes and local property taxes are pretty high, which adds to the high cost of living here. We also have a very high deficit and underfunded liabilities, especially when it comes to pensions. It's almost getting to the breaking point. Connecticut has had Democratic leadership for many years and fairly reliably votes for the Democrat candidate; so much so, that presidential candidates almost never campaign here. Plus being a small State, we only have 7 electoral votes.

I'm currently registered as unaffiliated, and have done write-in votes for President in the last two elections. I used to hold my nose, and pull the lever for the "lesser of two evils" candidate, but I decided that I was happier voting "for" someone, even if they never have a chance of winning. I can sleep at night. I do always vote though, and focus my attention more on the local elections which are just as important as the one for the big-boy chair. There have been many candidates in the primaries that I have liked, but my favorites never seem to make it be the nominee. I don't really feel at home with either of the two major parties, and in all actuality, think of myself as a "small l" libertarian (or a civil libertarian if you will). I'm not interested in aligning with the "big L" Libertarian party whose platform goes a little to far for me.

There used to be a saying that if you scratch a New Englander, you'll find a libertarian underneath. There's a feeling that the Democrats should stay out of the wallet, and the Republicans should stay out of the bedroom!

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Norm J

Subject: The misuse of the Name

You have spelled it out well Todd we certainly agree on that. We have the name problems with the way government uses our money. Borrows money that we have to pay the interest on etc. We had a Prime Minister who was an economist. Everyone in the east hated him. They sooner settle for a grade school teacher who throws money around like it grows on trees.

We also have the same problem as you where the rich don't pay nearly their share of tax.. Some where in the middle it has to be able to work right but I doubt that I'll ever see it. When I sold my tug & barge toe amount of tax I paid would make you sick. You work your whole life so the government can take a huge chunk of it away from you. What we had left to put into a safe place we have to get taxed every month for what little we take out per month even after they took the huge portion right when we retired.

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Glenn

I'm with you BEG; that song never fails to bring a big smile to my face! Van and The Band (and the horn section) really deliver on that version of Caravan. Must have been something to have experienced it in person like John D. Wow! That would have to be on my top 10 desert island music video list. Have we had something like that here at the GB? If you could have only 10 music videos (of a single song), what would they be? HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all! Please be safe. Let's kick this pandemic outta here like Van kicked Caravan into high gear.

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Todd

Subject: Social Studies

Norm, I'm not an expert on economics or world politics, but it's clear that the term socialism gets misused quite often by people on both sides of the aisle who are typically trying to further some sort of political agenda. Socialism as I understand it, is when the government controls every aspect of the economy and industry including the means of production. Clearly that's not what's happening in Canada, or Norway or Sweden or even the United States etc.

It's really more of a case of free market capitalism with generous government social programs. Yes that requires higher taxes, but that offsets other expenses that people and business might have. Very different from how things were/are in places like Cuba, Venezula or Nicaragua with Socialist dictators.

Even Bernie Sanders characterization of Democratic Socialism is a little fuzzy and doesn't really apply to how things are in places like Sweden, even though he frequently uses that as an example. But it really requires the wealth generated by a successful free market economy to support the social programs (and infrastructure etc.) via the tax base.

I have no beef with paying taxes to support our needs. My problem is when those precious resources are wasted by inefficiency, corruption or greed which steals from the very people that revenue is supposed to be helping. If waste, fraud and abuse can be reduced, then there is more to go to where it is needed without breaking the back of the engine from which that revenue is derived. And so often the solution is to raise that burden, instead of trying to fix the problems. And government doesn't always do that in the most efficient way, in my opinion. Many of them are more concerned with power and control.

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Norm J

Subject: Lenin's Bolsheviks

Right you are Todd. The book I referred to is 50 years of that and as you have I have friends from Russia and understanding what they have gone thru is really told in that book.

We have to shake our heads sometimes to hear people like Trump talk about our country particularly as regards health care. I watched Trump say "It doesn't work in Canada." Well I'm 76 and it's worked all my life for me and pretty well every one I know.

The part that I can't get. You pay taxes and your taxes are used for all infrastructure. Roads, schools everything you can name. If our taxes and a small premium look after our health how does that all of a sudden become "SOCIALISM". That is stupid and I sure in hell am not a socialist. Makes me feel good to know for the little bit of money I was able to put away I helped my country and paid one hell of a lot more income tax that Trump did. Also the taxes I paid for 56 year of work for fuel and every other damn cost of operating was not a socialist thing at all. My only beef is the chicken shit little pensions we get.

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Bill M

John D: Or as the Beatles would have put it, "It was 44 years ago today, when Sergeant Pepper told the Band not to play". Next up, Billy Sheers?

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Todd

Subject: Storming the Castle

Norm, I knew that you were kidding, but there are many people who actually think that that's the way it should happen, storm the castle and frog march him out of there, etc. But we don't have kings or despots here so fortunately there are better ways.

One of the reasons that our democracy has survived all sorts of miscreants and villains over the years is because there is a process in place to ensure orderly transitions of power. The balance of power between the 3 branches of government also helps to prevent chaos, and preserve the republic, no matter how messy it may appear on the surface, from time to time.

I agree with you that many people are uniformed or misinformed, but that will happen when many people get their info from opinion channels like Fox or MSNBC, rather than seeking out more objective sources. As the late great Walter Cronkite said: "In seeking truth you have to get both sides of a story."

Speaking of Russia, I have a friend and co-worker who grew up under Communist rule, and moved with his wife and daughter here in the mid 1990's, and has now lived here for three plus decades. He maintains that it was the Bolsheviks that screwed everything up in Russia, no matter how good the intentions might have been. In spite of the problems that we have here, he still feels like he hit the jackpot when his application to come to this country was approved. So I look to him for inspiration as I know he appreciates life here more than many who take it for granted.

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Norm J

Subject: Past The Point of Rescue.....Hal Ketchum

Now along with Billy Joe Shaver and Jerry Jeff Walker we have lost Hal Ketchum who died on Monday at only 67 of complications with dementia. He wrote and sang a lot of really good songs and was show cased on and became a member of the Grand Old Oprey.

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Norm J

Subject: Pat and Todd

Todd, I'm well aware of your election process and actually by the look of the news and some things people say down there, I'm sure I know a lot more about it than a lot of Americans as I have studied it for quite a lot of years. I was just being funny.

Studying government process between the Canadian process and United States some time ago even got me into Australian (as we have a daughter in Brisbane and I have spent time there) that only got me reaching over to New Zealand as well.

Many years ago I read "Worker's Paradise Lost" of the war years in Russia. It began to look here not long ago like the USA could come to the same fate as the USSR. Maybe even more so now between Red and Blue states and that madman Trump stiring things up the way he does is very much seperating that country. One thing I know for sure there are many people in the USA that really have no idea what socialism is.

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Todd

Subject: US Election Timeline

Norm, I appreciate your eagerness, and interest in the United States election process, but everything happens on a schedule, so I'm not sure that Pat can accelerate that for you.

On Monday the GSA authorized Joe Biden to begin his transition to the presidency.
Typically all of the States will have finished certifying their votes by early December. Some states have already done so. Not every state has the same deadline for that part of the process.
Then on December 14th, the electoral college will meet to officially cast their votes from each of the states. Any legal challenges and votes recounts should be well in the past by that time.
Then a joint session of Congress will meet on January 6, 2021 to count the electoral votes and make the official declaration for the election of the President and Vice President.

Then finally on January 20th there will be the inauguration where Joe Biden & Kamala Harris will be sworn in.

This is pretty much the way it will go, and anything that happens in between now and then is merely noise and distraction. So don't worry. Everything will be OK!

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JQ

Is it illegal or just another norm to be busted?

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Pat B

Norm, it's Trump's place until 1/20/21. After a thorough fumigation, Biden gets it. Until then, enjoy the mass of pardons Trump unleashes, including one for himself.

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Norm J

Subject: Action!

Pat.........OH PAT!! Get on over to DC and tell that tramp Trump to get his ass outta that house :-)

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brown eyed girl

If I had to pick just one performance, just one from TLW besides my mother's fave "Helpless"....It would have to be.....Sheer joy and more joy every time I watch this performance.

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brown eyed girl

And The Band Played On....John D thanks Levon and Rollie thanked Garth via of his sister Ginny for being at TLW at 18 years old. Both of them were blessed to have been invited to probably the most exciting and endearing rock celebrations of all!

Happy Healthy Thanksgiving to all the Americans this weekend and especially Pat B who previously shared wishes to the Canadian heathens as well.
:-D

The Gift

Be still, my soul, and steadfast.
Earth and heaven both are still watching
though time is draining from the clock
and your walk, that was confident and quick,
has become slow.

So, be slow if you must, but let
the heart still play its true part.
Love still as once you loved, deeply
and without patience. Let God (higher power) and the world
know you are grateful. That the gift has been given.

Mary Oliver

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John D

It was 44 years ago tonight that the original 5 members of The Band played their farewell concert in San Francisco. It was of course The Last Waltz. I was invited and spent a few days there including rehearsals and of course the concert. It's something I will never forget for the rest of my life. Thank you Levon for inviting me.

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Peter V

I put them on and closed my eyes.

Hearts and Bones -,Paul Simon

Rene & Georgette Magritte - Paul,Simon

American Tune - Paul Simon

Visions of Johanna - Bob Dylan

Just like a Woman - Bob Dylan

One too many mornings- Bob Dylan

There are days when you need nothing short of perfection.

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Bill M

Pat B: Good call - certainly better than some of mine. #11 with a bullet.

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brown eyed girl

I have this doc....."The documentary, Down In The Flood,” tells the story of Bob Dylan and The Band (AKA The Hawks), covering the years 1965 – 1968. Includes interviews with Garth Hudson; the Hawks’ mentor, Ronnie Hawkins; tour drummer Mickey Jones; producer John Simon; Dylan guitarist Charlie McCoy and others."

Canadians can watch from video two....

When you share your food. Your bread basket will never be empty.
South American Friend

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brown eyed girl

Covid-19: Essex boy's lockdown art project ends up in gallery
:-D

Charlie Jones
BBC News

"Even though it sometimes gets cloudy, just you keep on shining."

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Pat B

Norm, TV programs can advance any bullshit they want. FOX has been harping as a matter of course that Joe Biden accomplished nothing in his years in DC, just as FOX wanted its viewers to think Obama had spent his entire life as a community organizer. Anyone with the slightest intellectual curiosity finds these sorts of statements ignorant beyond belief, but manipulating weak minds has always been big business. As we know, underestimating American intellect is an easy way to make big money.

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Bill M

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Bill M

Norm: Thanks. If a #10 is necessary, there's always Dylan's "New Morning".

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Norm J

Subject: 50 Ways to Leave The White House

You just have to watch this. There is nothing else to say.

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brown eyed girl

Roots musicians pay tribute to the iconic music of The Band

Dustbowl Revival and Hot Club of Cowtown performing at Kay Meek

Jeremy Shepherd
North Shore News
JANUARY 11, 2019

But more than 40 years after their curtain call, that sound of Americana played by a group that was 80 per cent Canadian still inspires, explains Zach Lupetin, founder of roots band The Dustbowl Revival.

“They’re like our musical spirit animals,” he says."

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brown eyed girl

Request by DUNC....

Pauline Alexander
Where Lucifer Lingers
Oct 2018 Recording

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brown eyed girl

CHILL OUT (Things Gonna Change)
1995

John Lee Hooker/Santana

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Peter V

Subject: Sgt Pepper & its descendants

The latest on Around and Around is The Art of the LP: Sgt Pepper, which covers not only Sgt Pepper, but the pastiches of it like We're Only In It For The Money. Heavily illustrated and focussing on art and design.

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Norm J

Subject: History from Scotland

Dunc, some more history from Scotland. I am a member of a group based in Cape Town, South Africa. It is the history of the super Z-Tugs of South Africa Tug Boat Company. In the late 70's my Uncle Captain Frank Culbard (mum's brother, their father was my grandfather from Scotland.) Uncle Frank was master working with these tugs before his retirement. At the time they were the two biggest most powerful tugs in the world. Ocean going salvage tugs.

The first built was "Wolraad Woltemade" built in Leith, Scotland by Robb Caledon and launched in 1976. The name is after a Dutch farmer in Cape Town who with his horse swam out to a ship in Table Bay that was floundering in heavy weather. He rescued 18 sailors until too many were in the water and all grabbed onto the horse taking him and Wolraad Woltemade down and drown them. The story is on wikipedia.

You can see pictures of the tug on line here on many sources. The ship builder, the tug boat company "Saftug" The second tug "sister ship" the South Africans copied the one built in Scotland and built it up in Durban. It was called "John Ross". My uncle spent some time master of that one.

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Norm J

Subject: Cenotaph

I meant to say to you Dunc. The most beautiful cenotaph I have seen is in Hobart, Tasmania. It has a very long beautiful lawn with trees leading up to it. It stands on a point looking out over the bay. I'd like to send you a picture of it. email me.. tsolum666atgeemaildotcom

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Norm J

Subject: I Can See Clearly Now

Adding to your positive songs Bill, and thank you a refreshing idea.

This question is directed particularly to Pat.....or anyone who cares to comment. Reading the news that always comes up on my home page as soon as I go on line. A judge in a case against Fox News says NO ONE could actually believe anything Tucker Carlson says he lies so much. The management of Fox admits that he lies. Most recently he is babbling on about how this election was rigged and illegal voting blablabla. My question is why do they let him continue? Is it just for the ratings or the entertainment factor?

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Bill, Norm and Beg.

Thanks, Norm. I was confusing your two grandfathers together and thinking them as one person. Yes, sad about Remebrance Day. We have one of the most beautiful cenotaphs in the UK. I’m as you’ll have gathered I’m also interested in Scottish history. In the Canadian armed forces in WW 1 over 2000 men were born in or had a close link with Dundee, and Dundee’s only VC winner was in this army. Many lost their lives. Bill M - here are some songs which will reflect what I’ve been playing.

Rediscovering Stone The Crows, which were a great band I saw in the seventies.

Going Down is a great track to look at with two brilliant guitarists, both who died young one from drugs, the other an electric shock on stage, and Maggie Bell is often compared to Janis Joplin.

Revisiting Donovan and found a rendition on YouTube of Donovan and Crystal Gayle singing Catch The Wind. I was lucky to see Crystal Gayle in concert and It was a great night, where I felt she meant every work.

I have been exploring the music of Blue Rose Code. The singer and writer behind this band is hugely talented and I was lucky to see him play a concert with older artistes, which was brilliant. By a strange coincidence, Peter’s late friend, John Wetton RIP, mentored Ross Wilson to help him get his life back on track.

Playing a lot of The Blue Nile. Robbie liked Paul Buchanan’s music and I think Breakin’ The Rules is brilliant.

Played Paolo Nuttini’s music. His family own a chip shop in the town and I enjoy playing Beeswing, the Richard Thompson classic, which begins in Dundee.

BEG has got me into the Waterboys and I really enjoy Sharon Shannon and the Waterboys playing Saints and Sinners. Was really lucky to see a Sharon Shannon concert last year. Great show.

Bought an album by Pauline Alexander, a Scottish singer songwriter, who is making inroads into England. Perhaps a cliche, but she has the voice of an angel.

I have also been playing a lot of the Dundee songwriter, Ron Lindsay’s work, who was going to get his big break in the early seventies, but suffered from mental health problems, holding up his career. I think his songs are great. Paula recorded one of his songs on her debut album, related to his stay in hospital. It is a beautiful song. It’s called where Lucifer Lingers and it’s by Pauline Alexander. Perhaps you could link the 2018 version from You Tube to the GB, BEG.

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Bill M

..., and acknowledging the facts that Jan 20 is Wednesday and some time off, here are some more positive songs to consider:

Here Comes The Sun - Beatles
Morning Has Come - Spirit
Morning Has Broken - Cat Stevens
Come Monday - Jimmy Buffet
Dreams - Fleetwood Mac ("thunder ... raining, and when the rain washes you clean you'll know, you'll know")
Words To Words - Max Webster ("And freedom, some say freedom comes after a storm") "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead" - any cast of the Wiz
"The Future's So Bright, I Gotta Wear Shades" - Timbuk 3 "Michael Row The Boat Ashore - Highwaymen ("Milk and honey on the other side")

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Desperate Men Do Desperate Things

Desperate Men Do Desperate Things...Jimmy Lafave
He Won't Go...Adele
Burnin'and Lootin'...Bob Marley and The Wailers
Time Shows Fools...Justin Townes Earle
Hey Little Rich Girl...Amy Winehouse
Nothing Was Delivered...The Byrds
Had Enough Of You Today...Blackie and The Rodeo Kings
Pressure Drop...Toots and The Maytals/The Clash
Emotional Slaughter...Black Uhuru

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Bad Intentions Robbie Robertson

Evil Ways...Santana
So Cruel...U2
Preyed Upon...Tanita Takaram
I Woke Up Screaming...Bobby "Blue" Bland
Come On Do The Jerk...Smokey Robinson and The Miracles
Fool Fool Fool...The Clovers
The Tears Of A Clown...Smokey Robinson and The Miracles
Poor Pitiful...Otis Redding
Money In My Pocket...Dennis Brown
What Goes Around Comes Around...Bob Marley and The Wailers

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Pat B

I'll Have A Blue Christmas--Porky Pig

Asshole--Denis Leary

Bloody Mother Fucking Asshole--Martha Wainwright

Jackass--Bloodhound Gang

You're No Good--Ronstadt

You're Cheatin' Heart--Hank

Unfaithful--Rhianna

Love The Way You Lie--Eminem

Before He Cheats--Carrie Underwood

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Peter V

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Norm J

Subject: Nothing is bad enough to be Appropriate.

Pat there is an old country song "How Can I Miss You if you Won't Go Away".

Considering the job this sleasy mobster has done. The man who is the head of Wall Street who supported him is on the news here confirming it's time for him to get out. There is over 100 retired law makers republican and democrat who have all just signed a letter calling for the republican senate to shut him down. Carl Weinstein has published the names of 21 sitting republican senators that confirm they all agree he never should have been a president to start with. What they need is McConnell to get his head out of his ass.

A lot of people in the USA think we should have no say in this. They have no idea how that government affects us.

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JQ

There’s a good one by the recently departed David Olney called Millionaire.

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Pat B

Loser--Beck

Even The Losers--Tom Petty

I'm A Loser--Beatles

Beautiful Loser--Seger

Poor Poor Pitiful Me--Ronstadt

Loser--The Dead

Liar--Argent

Liar Liar--Castaways

Liar--Rollins

Lie To Me--Pretenders

Would I Lie To You?--Eurythmics

All Men Are Liars--Nick Lowe

Miserable Lie--Smiths

Book of Liars--Walter Becker

Fat Man--Jethro Tull

Livin' Fat--Fat Joe

Chunky People--Pig Robbins

Eat The Rich--Aerosmith

Rich Girl--Hall & Oates

Baby You're a Rich Man--Beatles

Rich Man's War--Trad.

Poor Little Rich Boy--Regina Spektor

Folsom Prison Blues--Cash

Back on The Chain Gang--Pretenders

Jailhouse Rock--Elvis

Prison Grove--Zevon

Busted--Ray Charles

You're Gonna Get What's Comin'--Robert Palmer

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brown eyed girl

DUNC...I was also thinking what's up with Dunc these days? I love downsizing so today it's all about my various files. So far Education, Health and Housing completed. Next is Miscellaneous and then Music.....I've already downsized some clothing by taking them to a store that will give me credit for them half of selling price. It's most advantageous to the buyer. Stuart Adamson from Big Country was so much more than his suffering.

A Shrine To Yonge's Musical Past linked. Drum Wall at Friar's Museum also.

Awwww.....NOMADIC MIKE...There is a story there. My Nova Scotian friend sent the Art App. You choose what time of day you'll receive your mystery piece of art work daily. It was the second day that the Young Girl With Cabbage showed up. A simple twist of fate as I live in Cabbagetown and I was just telling everyone that one of the things that the Pandemic was positive for me was that I was finally able to grow out my bangs like the girl in the painting. If it wasn't for this friend who I met while teaching at my first school close to little Jamaica.....I know, I know.....another simple twist of fate again......The Universe brought me to former City of York Board to teach in Weston area and then just south of Eglinton West subway station. It was here that Black Uhuru (Black Freedom) wrote about the community in the song, "The Youths Of Eglinton". I saw them on the same bill as The Clash......so yes.....I am fortunate when it comes to experiencing the music I love.

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Mike Nomad

I can see why this appealed to you, Angie.

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Solomon

Featuring passionate and often irreverent in-depth interviews with the most renowned music photographers, musicians, gallerists, journalists and social commentators, ICON is a six-part rollercoaster ride through the rich history and cultural impact of music photography. I caught Elliot Landy and one of his classic Band photographs on this series the other day.

It's nice to have two good channels like Sky Arts and BBC 4 during the vid19 lockdown days on Freeview.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Daily Dose Of Art

For those who appreciate visual art...One of my friends sent this art app to me. One day this week appeared The Young Girl And The Cabbage.

"Live your life as if you were creating a work of art; put those things you find most beautiful in it."

Unknown

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Norm J

Subject: Dunc

Hello Dunc. I echo Bill's words. It is good to have you come by again and know that you are well. You are right in your memory. My father as his father before him saw no reason to bother with school education. my father went to school only until he was 9 and then my grandfather kept him with him all the time working in logging and fishing. Now to understand this we lived on small islands very remote with no roads and getting to school was by boat. They were pioneers so that their whole idea of survival was being pretty much self sufficient.

On the other hand my grandfather from Scotland who grew up at Dollar was very well educated and after the war was an accountant. As he served in the Canadian Light Infantry at Vimy Ridge in WW1 he only lived to age 44. He passed when mum was only 14 from commplications of that war so we never got to see him.

This last Remembrance Day we were unable to share the remembrance at our park as we do. I found a march in Scotland with the combined pipe bands playing "Scotland the Brave" and shared it with my mates on Facebook. At the moment I forget what town it was but it is a great video. With good sound and a very tight fine march. I really enjoy it. Later Dunc.

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brown eyed girl

Justin Bieber performed his hit song “Lonely” with Benny Blanco and “Holy” LIVE at the American Music Awards 2020. I was disappointed that Chi Town's rapper Chance the Rapper did not join Justin in "Holy" but due to social distancing....However, they could have zoooooooomed. I've also observed that Justin's moves have definitely been influenced by Chance.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Canadiana

American Music Awards last night....Only our Canadian boyzzzz made an impression. Let's hear it for Stratford's boy meeting up with Pickering's boy. Scarborough's boy was all bandaged up. Nope, no plastic surgery. He was promoting his latest record and song about drunk driving while trying to reach your babe in a real hurry. I like some of his music but this one didn't do it for me. Still proud to see that he keeps rolling after his days with Ariana Grande at another award show singing with her in "Love Me Harder".

Playlist While Sorting Files

Daniel Lanois...Lotta Love To Give
I Still Belong To Jesus...Robert Randolph via Robbie Robertson
Your House...Steel Pulse
Ultimate Sacrifice...Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise via Much More Music
Shame On The Moon...Rodney Crowell via Mary Martin
Home...Shaggy
Rubylove...Cat Stevens
Living In A Ghost Town...Rolling Stones via Peter Viney
I Know What I Know...Steve Forbert
It Makes No Difference...Jimmy Lafave via Kevin J

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Bill M

Subject: lost in the record collection

Dunc: I'm glad to see you posting - relieved even. Have any unexpected gems turned up in your wanders?

As for me, a listen last night to the linked record by the local Blue Tones, which charted here in 1957, reminded me that Ronnie Hawkins certainly didn't bring rock and roll to Toronto. Great guitar work by Eddie L'Ecuyer.

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Dunc

Subject: Norm, Celtic Bhoy, hockey

Hi Norm. Back in the day, if you remember, I found your family story very interesting. Steve RIP told me his story too. I couldn’t work out why your father was opposed to formal education if I’m remembering correctly.

Hi Celtic Bhoy, it was a Lisbon Lion who gave my son a chance in football - Bertie Auld, as hard as nails, signed him for Dumbarton, but Bertie left Dumbarton and the young boys were shown the door, but my son went on to play 13 years as a part timer. I was at both defeats home and away of Celtic by a Scottish team in ‘67. If you give your e mail to Peter, he will e mail it to me, and I might be able to help you with your music collecting.

I’ve got to boast here. Hockey.I was a decent footballer, but we never played football at school, and I ended up playing hockey for the Scottish Universities, and at the end of the tournament, Cambridge asked me if I would consider doing teaching practice at Cambridge, playing for Cambridge and playing in the Oxford vCambridge match. My first meetings with public schoolboys! Hockey in Dundee was linked to the empire and Dundee was the world centre of the jute trade. Might have become a PE teacher. Still played football, which I prefer and ended up taking teams for years.I was brought up in the Lochee area and its related scheme. Loved it. (Celtic Bhoy, you’ll know the area if you travelled up to Dundee on the Celtic buses - I lived next to the Gaiety Bar in Charleston and once never had a relation outside Lochee - both places frequented by the Celtic buses. Have you been there Celtic Bhoy on the bus?

Not posting much just now, because I’m still on the part of the retirement music journey, which is exploring Scottish folk, pop and rock. And really enjoying Peter’s website.

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Si

A Glitch Is A Glitch c/w Nancy With The Laughing Face
My Degeneration b/w I Can't Explain
No Expectations b/w Sympathy For The Devil
Trojan Horse With No Name
I'm Only Sleeping
Shake Me, Wake Me, When It's Over
Puppet On A String
Hey Joe (Where You Going With that, uh, the umm you know, that err, thing ... the [wistful sigh] ... the err [long pause] y'know ... the uh [increasing impatience] the thing ... uhh [trails off incoherently]

Bonus track - The Hunter Gets Captured By Ukraine

Inauguration Music - Fanfare for the Come On, Maaaan

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Todd

Subject: Opinions

It's OK, guys. Everyone needs to vent sometimes. Doesn't always need to be rational or conform to the accepted standard. And there's always the entertainment aspect to consider!
It's been a long election day.... rather week.....umm...actually more like a month really. Is it still 2020? One thing is for certain. On January 20th we will have a new President.

I watch CBS news fairly regularly, and I've never seen any of Si's opinions discussed there. CBS reports the facts and only the facts. You can take that to the bank. And if you don't believe me you can check with Walter Cronkite. But certainly Si is entitled to his opinions? He's not running a news operation after all.

And I think he's definitely wrong about Joe Biden's lack of ability to run a lemonade stand. I think he can do it, and I'm willing to give him that chance! This political season (and most of them for that matter) remind me of this kernel of wisdom found in Bobby D's, 'Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie'.

"The ones that wheel and deal and whirl and twirl
And play games with each other in their sand-box world
And you can't find it either in the no-talent fools
That run around gallant
And make all rules for the ones that got talent"

Selah

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Daniel Lanois and Garth Hudson

"This is footage from the "Here Is What Is" afterparty, Toronto Film Fest, September 9, 2007. Lanois and special guest Garth Hudson performed in an intimate venue on Queen Street for a small crowd."

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Norm J

Subject: Unexplainable

Wow Pat I was amazed at your restraint. Is this Si character auditioning for Fox. Never heard such a spew of drivel. Very obviously an uninformed or biased character but most certainly ignorant of what is going on.

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Bill M

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JQ

I’d nominate A Merkel as president of earth - a 1-world government is the only way humanity will make it. Si - you're a shallow moron.

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

Subject: In A Big Country

Adamson was a lifelong supporter of Dunfermline Athletic Football Club.

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Si

My own non-congregational opinion of Trump is that despite having misgivings about the occasional crassness and boorishness of his tweets I've never believed that there is any evidence of racism or any -ism or -phobia on his part. MS-13 are indeed "bad hombres" and rapists and murderers and they thrive on exploiting vulnerable desperate people. I made the distinction between legal and illegal immigration from the moment he announced he was running. Hillary was an appalling candidate IMO. In short I don't trust any politician who advocates globalism - because they speak with forked tongue. The doctrine of "those jobs aren't coming back anytime soon so you better get used to it" that Obama glibly outlined. Trump seemed to be the antithesis of that and I found it refreshing. As a Brit though I have no idea if he was able to reverse that to any degree. I doubt the media would give him any credit if he has indeed managed to make the lot of the blue collar working classes and middle classes slightly better. At least he seemed to give them hope for a short while. I give him credit for a few things: making Critical Race Theory a household topic of late; appearing to genuinely care about the plight of veterans; treating the MSM with the contempt they have earned over the decades; trying to not start a war in the middle east (despite the many drone attacks); acting like political correctness is something that should just be disregarded and brushed off like you would a gnat. (He's absolutely right about that)

None of that will matter because Joe "if you don't vote for me then you ain't black" Biden (the real racist in all of this) will do the bidding of the people upstairs. His cognitive decline is becoming more and more evident on a daily basis and one gets the impression he couldn't run a lemonade stand let alone an economy/nation. I think Trump has accomplished more in four years than Quid Pro Quo Joe has in more than four decades.

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Norm J

Subject: The Scott

Celtic Bhoy I meant to ask what part of Scotland is yours. We have another Scott here who haunts the place. Old Dunc and I have discussed Scotland some. My grandfather grew up at Dollar Academy. He came to Canada at age 16. So I have a touch of the Highlands.

By the way if you were talking about the USA when you said 200 million, it is actually 330 million.

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Norm J

Subject: Dance Crazes The 80's

Peter looking at your dance craze page motivated me to add this link. The reason being the 80's were a country music craze and particularly on the west coast here. Many bars changed their venu and decor as it took off to be so much money.

So many nights in many bars I played in people danced just like you see here in front of us. One particular afternoon on a May Day weekend I played in the little town of Cumberland behind Courtenay. Cumberland in it's day had been a mine town. It even had a China Town part. May Day was celebrated as United Empire Loyalist's day there.

I was playing a single with my band in my computer. I started to play an old John Mellencamp hit song "Cherry Bomb". Suddenly a crowd of young ladies all about 19 to early twenties came bounding down from their tables and line danced in front of me so perfectly I was amazed. When I finished the song I called this pretty little girl over and asked her WHERE did you girls learn to dance like that. "They taught us in high school" she said. Probably the most perfect line dancing I ever saw.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Psycho killer

Si, I’ll bow to your far greater knowledge of American politics.

On reflection, I don’t think the bold Donald could resist boasting about it to us if he had got away with it!! Perhaps the Clinton’s may just be a bit more subtle about it.

Always amazes me that in a country of 200 million, many of whom are clearly exceptional people, the choice of politician usually underwhelms. And of course it’s exactky the same scenario here in the U.K. where Boris Johnson has been acting every bit the mini me illegitimate love child of The Trumpster.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Twist of fate

Brilliant clip BEG from my all time favourite movie!!!!

Once saw s clip of them shooting that scene and Uma Thurman saying how nervous she was doing a dance scene with John Travolta!! No pressure! The girl done good. Was just listening to Mark Knopfler when I saw your link..... spooky!

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Romantic Willy DeVille ❤

Mark Knopfler & Willy DeVille - Storybook Love (Official Video)

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brown eyed girl

Before Michael Jackson's Moonwalk and The Hawk's Camel Walk there was......

From the documentary: DANCETIME RESEARCH #1 The Camel Walk dance was originally a ragtime vaudeville dance that became a social couples dance and later on a solo dance. Here Al Minns shows us one of the solo variations.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: I Wanna Dance

When Mia (Uma Thurman) gets back from the bathroom, her conversation with Vincent (John Travolta) takes a twist.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Cadillac Walk

Rock and Roll Hall of Fame songwriter Doc Pomus said about the band, "Mink DeVille knows the truth of a city street and the courage in a ghetto love song. And the harsh reality in his voice and phrasing is yesterday, today, and tomorrow — timeless in the same way that loneliness, no money, and troubles find each other and never quit for a minute."[1]

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Peter V

Subject: Dance Crazes

AROUND AND AROUND … the last article in the "Music For Dancing" section has been added. In order, The Dancing Class, The Twist, Dance Crazes and Dancing bands and Watching bands. The new one is DANCE CRAZES. See link.

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Si

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Peter V

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Solomon

P.s. with a name like yours I guess it’s no surprise you were on the money summarising Celtics problems!!

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Peter V

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Fred and Solomon

Solomon, you’re absolutely right, the lack of fans is having a terrible impact on their performances this year. The crowd generate such an intensity you wouldn’t believe. 60,000 fanatical fans roaring you on can’t help but lift your performance.

I know I’m biased but our main newspaper ran an article recently where it had quotes from all of the football greats talking about how amazing and unique the atmosphere is at Celtic Park. Messi, Ibrahimovic, Xavi, Iniesta, Maldini, Ronaldo, Buffon, Puyol, Guardiola, even Gerrard!!

But I’d love to see how the Buenos Aires Derby compared. Not sure the pubs would be as good there though, but I suspect they know how to throw a good after party!!

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JQ

PV - Have you done this one yet?

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Solomon

I'm currently watching Orlando City v New York City FC with real fans watching ! It makes the game much more enjoyable with real fans instead of artificial crown noises.

Celtic Bhoy - I was wondering if that could be the reason Celtic haven't done so well in Europe and some Scottish games this season ? No fans. I know Celtic park is famous for the mighty lift the fans give the team.

Fred - Boca Juniors and River Plate would be another great game to see.

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Fred

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Bill M

FWIW, the two main members of the Big Town Boys (in BEG's goodbye list) had an earlier group that our Robbie passed through - I suspect between the demise of the Suedes and the offer from Ronnie Hawkins to join the Hawks in Arknsas.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Old firm

Wow Fred, I’ve never met a Canadian that knew much about the old firm!! I’m suitably impressed!

Now it’s clear there are lots of people on this site that love their basketball, hockey (several varieties), tennis, golf etc. But honestly, there is no experience in the world like being at an old firm match. To this day my wife gets frustrated with me that there is nothing, nothing at all that gets me as excited and animated as an old firm game.

I worked for an English bank in Glasgow and as a result there were lots of English staff. I made it my mission to take them along to see Celtic beat Rangers as often as I could and they were all completely blown away. Guys that had been to Manchester derbies, Merseyside, London derbies but all confirmed they had never experienced anything like the intensity of an old firm game. I remember one guy, the first game I took him to ended 4-4 with 3 players sent off and 8 booked. He was shell shocked! If ever you get the chance, forget Edinburgh Castle or Loch Lomond and get yourself to Celtic Park!

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Fred

If memory serves correct his family moved to Canada in late 1971 or early 1972. I met him in autumn 1972 when I started Grade 4 in a new school (for me)... we moved from one part of Ontario to another that summer.

At the end of Grade 7 I moved to Europe (with my family of course) and we eventually lost touch.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Ta ta

Psycho killer.... Talking Heads. Too much? Or just not yet proven?

Honestly, would you be all that surprised???

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brown eyed girl

Subject: The Last Goodbye

Last Goodbye...Jeff Buckley
She's Gone...Eric Clapton
Positively Fourth Street...Bob Dylan
Most Likely You Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine...Bob Dylan and The Band
You Better Move On...Mink Deville
Why Did You Leave Me Today...Gene Clark and Friends
Every Time You Go Away...Paul Young
Power of Goodbye...Madonna
You Won't See Me...Bryan Ferry
Don't Dream It's Over...Crowded House
Be My Enemy...The Waterboys
Just Like That...Toots and The Maytals
Hey Girl Go It Alone...Big Town Boys
Goodbye....Steve Earle
Goodbye Baby...Elmore James
So Long Good Luck Goodbye...Weldon Rogers

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Bye bye songs

I’m loving those boys, George Harrison is genius!!

It must have been a big deal moving to Canada at that age, and we Scots are usually quite determined not to get pushed around. He must have done something right for you to remember him and still speak quite fondly of him after all these years.

That’s another interesting game. Dig out one of those awful class photos from back in the day. “Where are they now?”

I genuinely did get the diverse collection of professional sports folk, movie actor, jail bird, successful business types, drug dealers, basket cases, TV personalities, teachers, researchers and of course more than a few since departed, quite a few at a pretty young age.

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Peter V

Go Now - The Moody Blues

Hey, that’s no way to say goodbye - Leonard Cohen

I, Me, Mine - George Harrison

Go, Go, Go - Chuck Berry

Nellie the Elephant (off she went with a Trump, Trump, Trump)

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Fred

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Fred

Beneath the hard-ass veneer (as much as an elementary school aged kid can be a hard-ass) was a pretty decent guy. He had a wicked sense of humour.

I think his two younger siblings had a smoother transition to living in Canada.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Playlists

Some interesting tracks on the playlists of Obama and Biden with some good stuff on there.

Got me thinking what might feature on the playlist of The Orange Narcissist who refuses to leave The Big White Hoose and stop stamping his feet! Some thoughts /suggestions.......

Slip slidin’ Away....... Simon & Garfunkel.

You can’t always get what you want ..... The Rolling Stones

Another brick in the wall .......... Pink Floyd

It’s my party and I’ll cry if I want to ........ Altered Images (Glasgow Band!)

Beat it! ......... Michael Jackson

I’m too sexy for my shirt ......... Right said Fred (not our Fred I hasten to add)

Show me the way to go home ........ Julie London.

Crazy! ....... Gnarls Barkley

Don’t wanna go home ...... Jason Derulo

I read the (fake) news today, oh boy........ The Beatles

You never met a mother fu**er quite like me...... Kid Rock

Please, please, please (just get tae f.....) James Brown

A message to you Rudy - “seriously with the hair dye already” .... The Specials

Ok, maybe just a tiny wee bit of poetic license!!!

Feel free to join in the fun guys, I never realised I’m so easily amused. I think there’s a board game In this just waiting to be invented.

And remember, be safe and watch out for angry orange narcissists with anger management issues and dodgy hairdressers.

😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: School days

Ah Fred, you paint an evocative picture of quintessential Glasgow school days!! Fond memories indeed!

After school boxing with schools of the other faith was our second national sport after football..... something we probably excelled at.

It must have been quite a steep adjustment curve for your friend moving to a land of normal after those formative years......

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Fred

Celtic Bhoy: His hair was more blondish than ginger. Not that difficult to understand (unlike the other Glaswegian who came to our school the following year) .He always went by James. Woe to the fool who called him Jimmy. Or Jim.

I remember asking him what kids in Glasgow did after school, he said at his school every day they'd get into fights with the Protestant kids from another school. The throwing of rocks was involved. Fun times I guess.

He wasn't too fond of the English. In 1973 when Queen Elizabeth II came to town, he was planning on finding a spot on the route where he could throw rocks at her car. I had to talk him out of it. It took a while to persuade him it was a very bad idea.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Hockey

Good evenin’!!

Many thanks for clarifying the nuances around the various hockey varieties guys, I’ve learned something today! As Fred says, violence sells and I was intrigued to learn it all started with finesse, skill, grace etc before the WWF promoters got involved. Growing up in Glasgow I didn’t get much exposure to hockey and I suspect the teachers would have feared decapitations might have been the order if the day given some of the nutters in our school.

Fred, you mentioned James MacNeil, your class mate from Scotland. Perhaps I know him, did he go by the name Jimmy, ginger hair, quite hard to understand with a bit of an aggressive bent??

Peter was right about the benefits of living in the U.K. and being eligible to play for several of the countries. The Irish took it a stage further in that if you can drink a pint of Guinness in one go, you’re in!!

I recall someone mentioned Borat recently, and I haven’t seen the movie and don’t think it’s one for me. However last night I did see the clip of Rudy Guiliani and the hotel room scene. Guys, you have to see this, I promise you that your toes will curl upwards until they are scratching the top of your feet!!!! I watched it with my 17 year old daughter and we just went from squirming to laughing to squirming. You would not leave your children alone in a room with that creature.......but hey, nice hair job!!

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haso

Subject: Palladium

Plus, I forgot to say... this same concert (via 'BCN) included most all of the TLW horn section. What I enjoy about some of these later gigs (I've had a cd of the Summer gig at Wolftrap/Carter-Barron for awhile) is hearing some later tunes that didn't seem to get played live a lot, like Twilight or Forbidden Fruit (deleted on this broadcast).

Also, Richard playing dobro. My biggest gripe w/ the editing of TLW is that you can see he was one on his lap, but awfully hard to hear it w/ that harp-guitar thing going too.

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haso

Subject: Yes, new YouTube

So Angie: a bit more later, I promise by email about edu/sports and that. Interesting trip for Yes; I woulda been w/ you... Yes but not Dylan & the Band. Are you kidding me? I did learn to appreciate Yes somewhat, but not like she and her friends did. Story was, she had these 2 pals in high school who were serious musicians that she hung w/ a lot. I guess they would argue about Yes and the like, various classical composers, etc. I believe she was more a by-stander. She had a serious crush on 1, and between him coming out when we were in college and me being part of her life, she did get over the crush. Funny thing, the other guy lives out west and we only exchange Christmas cards (he was more of a Christopher Cross-type character and songwriter). But we still see a fair bit of her old crush and his husband. They are the coolest, maintained a pretty-successful string ensemble for 15 years, and, I dare say going to their wedding was one of the best things I ever did.

The 2 guys did end up playing a composition one of them wrote at our wedding 3 or 4 years later on.

Just listening to (audio only) a YouTube of the OQ at the Palladium in NYC about 2 months before TLW. Sound is surprisingly good. It's evidently from a broadcast done at the time by WBCN. 'BCN was THE rock 'n' roll station in New England for many years. Interesting to listen to Garth and Robbie's solos on IMND. I don't know if Garth was using the same sax or a straight soprano but they show (as always) their musicianship. To my ears the solos are quite different than those 2 months later.

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Norm J

Subject: I want to go back

A quiet day in the guestbook bar. As I sat back in my chair here at my desk gently rocking a little amazed at all the crap on my computer and my tv. It put me in mind of this song of Steve Wariner's. "I want to go back."

Remember the days before Trump and COVID19? It's hard to tell which is worse. Anyway Steve Wariner is one of those "guitar gods" as well as a fine songster. Even if you are not a country music fan listen to this song for the lyrics which for everyone will bring you to your own personal thoughts of your past. As well Steve's beautiful guitar work here is a treat.

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Norm J

Subject: For Jan

Jan there is a preview video of this 10 part series of Larry & Theresa's "It was the Music" on Facebook. I can't figure out how to copy it to your site perhaps you can.

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Norm J

Subject: It Was The Music

Have Y'all seen this series that Larry Campbell and Theresa are putting out a TV series. Looks really good.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Keep on whispering in my ear Tell me all the things that I wanna hear Cause it's true That's what I like about you That's what I like about you That's what I like about you Wow

Good Morning PAT B. Few thoughts while waiting for Gray Boy. Midnight is like an Egyptian Priness who'll be by later. So I was just a few of the women at the time who saw Yes....I learned from your podcast, huh? Still breaks my heart I missed out on the The Band. Now Genesis and French-Canadian girls? I will give you a pass since you were not in Toronto? Sheesh....Just like Crab who had visited Montreal and that's all.........I never saw them but I never thought of them as progressive rock but as a concept band....I did dig Selling England By The Pound. Many years later I did see Gabriel at an Amnesty International Concert with many musicians galore. I loved how you and Chris mentioned our Rush.....I did see them at at our SARS concert with a group of friends. Nope......I cannot get past Geddy Leeee's voice. Surprise, surprise....Chris mentions The Romantics? I saw them at Ontario Place for 7.00. One hit wonders but the song said it all for young lovers of the world. I saw Jethro Tull as well. I thought they were cool because the flute was being honoured and showed rock fans that any instrument belonged....Thank you!

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Pat B

Well, my pally and fellow keyboardist Chris Neville and I decided for some reason to do a podcast. We try mightily to be informative and entertaining as we ramble on about music and life. If you like and subscribe, I may get rich.

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Jed

Keef and the Xpensive Winos live, Hot Tuna-Quarantine Concerts, Grateful Dead Live-lots of it-1969,1971, Leon Russell

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Rod

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Egg Salad with Arugula Asiago Walnut Pesto

Good morning haso and L. As for sports at school I also forgot we were exposed to cross country skiing and a bit of tennis. The whole year in our fourth year of high school was to expose us to all kinds of physical activity for either recreational or competitive sports in our lives after school. It was also at this time that I was acquainted with yoga. Meditation came much later and at first it was so difficult to just learn to be still. The other quality I forgot to bring attention to in raising sons and/or daughters....REMORSE....Their destructive behaviours continued and needed more help than we could provide if this quality was missing. We found when students couldn't show remorse......I've said this before....If you or your children have a good foundation in life you can stray at times but you'll always find your way back. Also, it's important and crucial that you feeeeel that you BELONG to your family, community (could be friends we choose) or tribe. Unfortunately gangs do serve a misplaced purpose.

As for seeing the band Yes. Sure it would have been great to have a real fan like L to see the show at MLG. It was a big deal coming from a small city. We did become amalgamated with two other towns but sill......small town talk. The owner of the one and only music store at the time was super cool to arrange this music trip for anyone interested. I just cannot understand why it wasn't to see The Band with Dylan instead of Yes? Another time he arranged a trip to see the Rolling Stones in Buffalo. The days when Mick would throw water onto the crowd. It was this bus ride where everyone was smoking something and yes....My first time.

Kevin J...I still cannot find the Doc of The Hawk but I did find this clip with Johnny Paycheck from same Doc.

Shuffle while in Leslieville area.

I Broke That Promise...Mink DeVille
Ophelia...Adam Cohen via Leonard Cohen
Numela...Ansi Kela via of KALERVO
Revelation Sunshine...Cree Sunshine via of Robbie
Downtown Girl...Willie Nile via Garland Jeffreys
Can't Feel My Face...The Weeknd via Ariana Grande (Scarborough's boy who will be performing at half time Super Bowl)

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haso

Subject: ray/angie/yes

BEG: thanks for that link. A good deal different than the Dylan tune. Sports to be a comment next time. Agree w/ the assessment you give Ray G about boys... man, if they are at least good people, it's a real start in the right direction.

So, my partner would be happy to have been w/ you on that bus for Yes. If I have it right, you are talking Tour '74. She didn't know me then, or barely, and was still ALL about Yes at that point. Only after sharing a music course (same course, different professors) and realizing I actually thought somewhat (not just a clown, as her impression had been), that she came to appreciate all types of "blues music", Doc Watson, the Dead, the Allmans, Stanley Turrentine, John Prine, etc., etc. And, 11.26 being exactly 44 years since Winterland, she might even sit through a bit of TLW.

Hey, just listening (and some watching) to TTB; you might try w/ Virgil. Susan plays a good lead 1st... a Thrill is Gone on a tribute show to B.B. King dated 2.16.2020. Maybe you'll both feel a bit more inclined to this well-matched couple and then their 12-piece ensemble. I'd link it, but haven't picked up that protocol from Jan.

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brown eyed girl

ROD...I post without thinking about other people's reactions as you can't please everyone.....I learned my lesson well.......Although not many posters these days; there are many who lurk. I feel free to share....Take it or leave it. No apologies for contributing to a site. In some ways we are more than part of social media.

Eminem Performing "Lose Yourself" at the Oscars 2020 as a surprise for all the audience

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brown eyed girl

ROD... What is your current playlist?
Any songs from Joe Biden's 2020 Playlist?

Biden also lists Aretha Franklin's cover of The Weight 1970 as did Obama. It must be because Duane Allman played guitar. I did notice that he also listed Tupac's "Cali Love" and Eminem's "One Shot"....songs that I also enjoy. As for "One Shot"; it was only when I saw Eminem perform it live that I finally really understood. I did see the movie 8 Mile many years ago which was good but it took his performance this year for me to really appreciate what he was communicating. Yes, many times in life more than not....We have one shot that can make or break.......

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Bonk

I would love to hear your playlist. TLW version is the best by far.

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Rod

Aretha Franklin: The Weight

I would have gone for TLW version myself ... but no one would be interested in my playlist anyway.

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John D

Thanks Bill. I had no idea.

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Bill M

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Norm J

Subject: Reader's Digest

My wife has had a subscription to Reader's Digest forever. I read it as soon as it came out and remarked on it here. As far as I could see it was just more of the same old. It is getting kind of old.

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John D

Subject: Robbie

Since no one responded to my Robbie Robertson article in Reader's Digest, I thought I would supply a link.

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brown eyed girl

RAY G... It is so good to hear that your son is his own person. And yes, yes, yes! If he's basically a kind person; most things in life will fall into place. It's the children or young adults who don't exhibit empathy or demonstrate compassion for others that run into serious problems. If I had a son who was a drummer, I'd expose him to name a handful.....Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, Mike Shrive performing "Soul Sacrifice", Brian Blade.....He's already a Levon fan like yourself. Then again he could just ignore me. Then I would just watch sports with him until the day comes when he says, "Awwww, come on mom......I just want to watch with the boyzzzz. Why don't you go to grandma's and watch with her? Ok?"......"Sure. Your father isn't a sports fan except when the Toronto Maple Leafs play, but they have to be winning or he loses interest quickly." "Mom, you're a fan of sports. You taught me to be my own person too but sometimes mom.....I just wanna hang with the boyzzzz ok?" "Alright.....alright....Marley.....Now if I had a daughter.....Most likely she'd be the opposite of me. ;-D

Yiiiikes! I forgot to mention that I also watch some BASEBALL. How could I forget? The only sport I played on a team. We also took archery in high school. Only the more middle-class students went skiing. One of them and her cool younger brother who said he just wanted to boogie on down.....This was the seventies......came with me to Toronto to see Yes. What really annoys me to no end......This was THE very same year that The Band with Dylan performed in TO. Why did our one and only local music store not arrange a bus and tickets to see The Band instead of Yes??!! So close and yet so far away...... :-(

And the Band played on.....March 13, 1989.

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Bill M

Because someone said, in reference to the social limitations imposed by the pandemic, "Bill, this is killing me", I had Billy Joel's "Piano Man" running through my head. As I couldn't remember the correct phrase, my brain finished off the line with "and the knife ran away with the spoon", which fits well. This would have been borrowed from "Little Jack Horner" - something I never think of, but clearly my brain has a mind of its own.

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Bill M

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Peter V

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Ray G

My son is 17 now and in his last year of High School. He turned out to be quite the drummer even though he was surrounded by a family full of guitar players as a kid. He is on the honor roll at school too BUT more importantly than anything else he is his own person and a good guy.

Thank you once again, BEG, that is a nice thing to hear.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: She MAY BE OLD, BUT She GOT TO SEE ALL THE COOL BANDS

Looks similar to my first music player...phonograph.....playing my first two 45's "Hey Jude" and "Whole Lotta Love". My father's sister and partner worked at Electrohome. Saved their money and bought a restaurant. I didn't even ask for one. One of my most meaningful gifts ever!

RAY G...My favourite part of your site was when you shared about your son. Thanks for sharing as I always appreciated hearing and learning about relationships with fathers.

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brown eyed girl

Canadian Boyzzz FRED, BILL M and NOMADIC MIKE. We played FLOOR HOCKEY with plastic sticks....dental sports injury which toughened me up to later in life deal with the bad boyzzz.......and FIELD HOCKEY with wooden sticks. However, the boyzzz were not allowed to play with us. The next group of gurlzzzz were encouraged to play HOCKEY.

I do not usually watch The Masters and American Football. I do watch BASKETBALL, HOCKEY, some TENNIS, some FOOTBALL (SOCCER). I only saw CRICKET in person once and remembered Imran Khan....talented and gorgeous! I discovered him in Rolling Stone when he married the Royal Jemima Goldsmith. Anyway, I was kind of cheering most of the Master's Tournament for South Korea's Im Sung-jaeIm in honour of my amazing former sister-in-law who is Korean-Canadian. My brother is more of an ethnocentric but geez.....He fooled all of us! And as for Buffalo Bills and Arizona Cardinals last night.......Wow, wow! Great plays on both teams! Just when you thought Buffalo........Surprise!

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Bill M

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Mike Nomad

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Ray G

Hey, Mike Nomad.... just wanted to give you a shout out... hoping all is well!

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Fred

I would have preferred getting whacked in the shins, by one of the nutbars in my school, with a plastic stick instead of that potentially lethal piece of wood. My respect for the ladies who play the sport increased a million fold that day in autumn of 1975.

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Bill M

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Fred

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Fred

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Bill M

My experience with field hockey was the requisite week of the sport during each of my two years of gym class at high school. What seemed girlish at the time was that the stick was short like a putting iron and made of flexible white plastic. As usual, my technique was to run around a lot so as to appear keen, while assiduously avoiding any place where the ball (field hockey ball, soccer ball, basketball, football, rugger ball ...) was or was at all likely go.

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Fred

Field (emphasis on the "field") Hockey is what we, the Chosen People (aka Canadians), call the game played (not on the ice, but on a field) by the rest of the world. ; )

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Peter V

By ‘hockey’ you Canadians mean what we call ‘ice hockey.’ Hockey is a sport in which England and Pakistan excel, played on grass. It’s odd that we excel, as in my experience it’s only played in girls schools here.

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Fred

The Bird and The Bee: Running With The Devil

Karen Elson: Season of the Witch

Patti Smith: Because The Night

They Might Be Giants: Museum of Idiots

Tony Hatch Sound: Man Alive

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Fred

Congrats to Scotland for qualifying for Euro 2021!

I always cheer for Scotland when they participate in international football competitions (unless they face Italy or Canada). I blame one of my best friends from elementary school (Grades 4 to 6), James MacNeil from Glasgow, for this. : )

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Fred

from many posts back:

Good morning, afternoon, and evening* to you!

* With online teaching..my sense of what part of the day it is slowly fades away as each day passes. : )

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Fred

Celtic Bhoy: hockey is supposed to be a game of artistry, skill and finesse, with timely hard hitting, but clean, checking.

Sadly in North America over the years it turned into a game of goonery on ice, championed by a never-ending series of pinheads on the rink, on the bench, in the boardroom, in the stands, on TV commentary.

In other words...the violence sells.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Hockey

P.s. Bill, coming from Glasgow I thought everyone only really watched the hockey for the unbridled violence and scraps??????

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Euro’s

Hi Peter. /n We’re just delighted to be going to the party for once, so expectations will hopefully be fine. It’s the taking part that counts! A far cry from the days of Billy Bremner, what a player he was.

You have my sympathies Peter, what Fraser did was indefensible, full stop. After all Bournemouth and Eddie Howe have done for him over the years, to behave like that was simply disgraceful. Not someone you want in the trenches with you for sure. I’d have loved to see how Bremner would have handled that if he was in the Bournemouth dressing room!!

P.s. Peter, loving the Around and Around web site, so different from everything else out there. Clearly a labour of genuine love, I can’t imagine how many hours have gone into that! You must have a very understanding other half!! Keep ,’em comin’ and educating us!!

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Peter V

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Peter V

Subject: Take A Girl Like You

The 60s Retrospective series adds TAKE A GIRL LIKE YOU, (linked) a 1970 British comedy. On the surface the cast looked solid … Oliver Reed, Hayley Mills, Noel Harrison, John Bird and cameos from Sheila Hancock and Penelope Keith. Script by George Melly, directed by Jonathan “Alice in Wonderland” Miller. Trouble is, it was several years too late for its Swingin’ Sixties storyline. Oliver Reed and Hayley Mills? It’s like watching Bill Sikes from ‘Oliver’ trying to seduce Pollyanna.

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Soccer

Indeed Bill it is soccer!!!!

A strange phenomenon for Canadians but hey, we get quite excited about it!, \ n Nothing excites Scots more than football/soccer...

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Bill M

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Lock down

So, talking about lock down.......

Top 5 movies for us to keep ourselves entertained in these strangest of times!!!

Pulp Fiction

There’s Something About Mary

The Angels Share

Fargo

One Flew Over The Cukoo’s Nest

And that concludes the voting from the Scottish contingent....

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: The Euro’s

And did I mention Scotland are going to The Euro’s for the first time in 22 years???

Kind of a big deal! I appreciate we have a majority of Canadians and basketball seems to be the sport of choice.... but like I said, kind of a big deal for us Scots....

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Catch up

Hi guys, glad to see you’re all hanging on in there.

It was the strangest of times.....

Lotta talk about chickens back there??????

Seems to have struck a chord with a lot of people, lots of attachment issues I suspect?

Last 5 albums....

The Waterboys , Good Luck Seeker

The Jayhawks XOXO

Dylan, Rough and Rowdy Ways

Ryan Adams Cold Roses

Kiwanuka by Michael Kiwanuka

I commend them to you guest bookers.

Can I ask, how are people filling their time in these strange times? Uncomfortable about watching too much Netflix, trying to do lots of cooking, running and listening to music.

But I really miss my friends. Every bonfire weekend for ten years we have gone on a “lads and dads” weekend in The Lakes and COVID has stopped all of that. I laugh more in those 3 days than the other 362 days of the year and those are the times I think my son will remember most in the years to come.

Shit,the strangest of times indeed......

Anyway guys, lots of talk about chickens.....WTF??????

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Custer of The West

A return to the 60s Retrospective series with a film about an American blond- haired, arrogant, racist narcissist in a position of power. Not not that one. This is the 1967 film about Custer starring Robert Shaw. CUSTER OF THE WEST (follow link). Among the many films about Custer this was the last before the revisionist view of Little Big Man. As this is mainly about fiction v history, you probably don’t need to have seen the film.

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brown eyed girl

For HASO...Since you like my name...Although JM is a huge fan of Ray Charles; he refuses to listen to this song.

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brown eyed girl

I woke up this morning thinking it was Sunday. I called out to JM to get ready for our Arts CBS show....Nope, today is Saturday. Many of my friends and relatives are starting to not play by our health rules. I told them to just think about our families who came from other countries who lived through wars and mine also lived through a Civil War. When I visited my family's country as a teenager my brother could not travel with us as he was born there. The fear at the time was that he would be dragged into the army. Our last name even had to be changed. I could not even ask my mother anything about that time. However, one day she got fed up with me asking her. I will never forget the look on her face as she barely could get the words out. She said, it was so heart breaking to see or find out people that once loved each other or who were related were trying to kill each other. We only found out what JM's family went through via of a newspaper article about his mother's life while staying with his sister and family about seven hours north of Toronto as she could no longer live alone. It was this article that I shared before about leaving with her brother and leaving a very comfortable lifestyle in the middle of the night at 18 and 19 years old and leaving behind three siblings and parents. Living with restrictions and maybe later this month total lockdown a huge sacrifice??????.......We can do this and survive and maybe tap into our long lockdown creativity. Just sharin' and trying to encourage others that what we're experiencing is just temporary and nothing compared to real wartime. I also look at our large cactus plant which daily reminds me to be resilient and strong....and every day many times Gray Boy and Midnight honour us with their unconditional love. Those of you who have your own children already know and hopefully feeeeeel it.

"In 1965, I did 6 episodes of a public TV series called "What's New." I presented folk songs from all over the world, and many instruments, to the best of my ability at the time. We shot these episodes at Brooklyn College and Joan Sheppard was the director."

BROOKLYN COLLEGE "Cripple Creek" with Tracy Newman on the 5-string banjo

Hi ROD...The concert is on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNERJHySjME

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Rod

On the flip side, for those of you you have Spotify, there's a great concert recording there of Levon and The RCO All Stars from 1978 (Live in New Orleans). Not great sonic wise but amazing performances.

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Lisa

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Soul Train

PETER V...My fave dance craze was The Bump.

Soul Train Ain't Gonna Bump No More Joe Tex

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brown eyed girl

Subject: We Are Not Our Addictions

Christine Smallwood
Harper's Magazine

“The highly regarded mastering engineer” Bob Ludwig called Robertson up to “apologize profusely” for having said that the rough mixes on The Band were too heavy. “He’d realized that the album had a depth and richness, with a unique character that he couldn’t even describe.” When Joni Mitchell “properly listened to what I did, it slayed her.” Robertson always counts his blessings. Of producing Neil Diamond’s Beautiful Noise: “I was grateful to have had another terrific musical experience while pulling off something that most people thought went totally against the grain.”

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Peter V

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Peter V

Subject: The Twist

Link didn't work again. Try this. Or just go to aroundandaround.

Special Areas - Music For DAncing - The Twist.

There's also something on Watching bands v Dancing bands.

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Peter V

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Peter V

Subject: Everybody's Twistin'

The follow on from The Dancing Class is now on AROUND AND AROUND. A whole article on THE TWIST. Have a look. Next up will be the other Dance Crazes in general.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: I do not see this article on this site.

"The mythology of rock bands is full of contradictions, which have become fixed as the core audience for rock music has aged from adolescence to adulthood and now into old age. Many of the great bands balance two archetypes—for instance, the cerebral Pete Townshend and the working-class tough guy Roger Daltrey in the Who, or sunny blond flower child Robert Plant and dark-haired occultist Jimmy Page in Led Zeppelin. This allows self-serious fans to reject one while expressing devotion to the other. It is not uncommon to hear baby-boomers of a certain disposition say they can’t stand Mick Jagger, but they love the Rolling Stones because of Keith Richards. Fill in Bono and the Edge, or Paul McCartney and John Lennon.

Lennon complained, post-Beatles, that McCartney stepped into the role of schoolmaster after the group’s manager Brian Epstein died in 1967. Paul would summon the other three Beatles to the studio, announcing it was time to get back to work. Ringo Starr has joked that he and Lennon would be enjoying themselves at home when the phone would ring; they would look at each other and know it was Paul, calling to end their fun.

Lennon also complained that McCartney would have a bunch of new songs written, forcing him to scramble to write some tunes of his own. This helped fix the perception that John was the rebel and Paul the clock-puncher. It’s more likely that Paul simply wrote songs all the time and John needed deadline pressure to pick up his guitar.

Thank God for McCartney

If we accept Lennon’s premise that McCartney forced, cajoled, or nagged the Beatles back into the studio in their final years, thank God for Paul McCartney. Between early 1967 and September of 1969 the Beatles, under Paul’s rigorous schedule, recorded Sgt. Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Let It Be, and Abbey Road.

Who do you love? Mick Jagger and Keith Richards on the morning of Mick’s wedding to Bianca Pérez-Mora Macías, in St. Tropez, 1971. The same sort of credit must go to Mick Jagger, whose business acumen made all the members of the Rolling Stones wealthy, gave them ownership of their post-60s master tapes, and who has maintained his position as rock’s greatest front man well into his 70s—allowing the Stones to fill stadiums and mint new fortunes while many of their 1960s peers worked the oldies circuit. Keith Richards’s musical talent is equal to Jagger’s, but it is reasonable to suppose that if Jagger had not taken over the band’s business affairs in the early 70s, Richards would be swaggering in greatly reduced circumstances today. You don’t have to love Mick Jagger to love the Rolling Stones—although millions do—but you do owe him some gratitude.

If Jagger hadn’t taken over the Stones’ business affairs, Richards might be swaggering in greatly reduced circumstances today. Which leads us to Levon Helm and Robbie Robertson of the Band, the group that came into the spotlight backing up Bob Dylan in the mid-60s, moved up to Woodstock, New York, and soon released two albums—Music from Big Pink, in 1968, and The Band, in 1969—whose influence is hard to exaggerate. Combining elements of country-music rusticism, gospel harmonies, rock ’n’ roll guitar and keyboard solos, and a funky rhythm section, the Band pretty much abolished the psychedelic-rock movement. Eric Clapton and George Harrison traveled to Woodstock to pay homage to them. Jimi Hendrix and Van Morrison arrived to share the waters from the well of their inspiration. Once the Band arrived, ruffled shirts and multi-colored bell-bottoms were out—hats and beards were in. From My Morning Jacket to Wilco to Mumford & Sons, their influence lives on.

The Band were four Canadians and one Arkansan who had come up the hard way, playing years of gigs in tough bars from the Deep South to Toronto. To all appearances they were a band of brothers. Levon Helm sang, played drums, and sometimes switched to mandolin or guitar. Richard Manuel sang and played piano, and sometimes switched to drums. Rick Danko sang and played bass and occasionally fiddle. Garth Hudson played organ, piano, accordion, and sometimes saxophone. Robbie Robertson played guitar and wrote most of the songs.

Pause on the last part. Robbie Robertson wrote most of the songs. The Band were a musical group of five equals, and as long as they were playing covers in bars or backing up Dylan or Ronnie Hawkins, the brotherhood was unbreakable. But once they began recording under their own name, Robertson’s authority grew. So did his bank account. The composer’s money is usually the biggest chunk of income for a recording act.

Acclaim and Influence

And what songs Robertson wrote—“The Weight,” “The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down,” “Up on Cripple Creek,” “Rag, Mama Rag,” “It Makes No Difference,” and so many others, raising the Band to a level of acclaim and influence few rock artists ever achieved. He did a great job, and for some time everyone was happy with the arrangement.

But by 1976, the Band was staggering. Success had led to an excess of drinking, drugging, and smashing up cars. Manuel’s depression and alcoholism made him almost non-functioning. Helm battled heroin. Tours became infrequent and shows were often canceled. Robertson once told me that Band recording sessions would be scheduled and he would be the only one to show up.

The Band was in danger of fizzling out, so Robertson—always the member with the best instinct for public relations—sold his partners on a big idea. They would go out with a big concert to be called “The Last Waltz.” It would feature guests like Dylan, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, and Muddy Waters. It would be recorded for a triple album and filmed by Martin Scorsese. The Band had never enjoyed record sales commensurate with their influence. The Last Waltz would create a permanent monument to them and secure their place among rock’s greatest artists for all time.

Robertson’s idea worked. The Last Waltz is one of the greatest concert movies and maybe the best rock documentary ever made. No one remembers that the Band were playing midsize theaters on their final tour. They have gone down as one of the most important groups in rock history, as they deserve.

Across the Great Divide

But you can’t live on being a legend. The members of the Band were still young men. The money lasted a while, but eventually they all had to go back to work, and although they made solo albums and played shows, 10 years after the breakup it was clear to everybody that there was a lot more money in going out as the Band than there was in going out as Levon Helm’s RCO All-Stars, or as Danko & Manuel. Inevitably, Robertson was asked about putting the Band back together. He pointed out that The Last Waltz had been a pretty definitive farewell. “What are we going to say?” he asked. “Just kidding?”

Robertson and Helm at work in 1969: stories of traveling medicine shows and Southern bitterness over the Civil War. Levon figured that it was easy for Robbie to sit up in Malibu and say no—he had all that songwriting money. So the other four went back out on the road as the Band and even signed a new record deal—but without a songwriter as good as Robertson, interest in them faded. They were playing a lounge in Winter Park, Florida, in 1986 when Richard Manuel, his drinking and depression uncured, hanged himself at the motel after a show. He was 40. Levon cut down his friend’s body, and it seems to have been about then that he fixed on Robbie as the author of all the Band’s disappointment.

After Rick Danko died of heart failure in 1999, Levon tore into Robbie in This Wheel’s on Fire, his autobiography: “We had a big funeral for Rick, a hell of a thing…. Robertson came from California; he didn’t want to be here, but he knew he had to be. He got up and spouted off a lot of self-serving tripe about how great Rick had sung the songs that he—Robertson—had written. It made me sick to hear.”

Robertson never responded in kind. When he finally wrote a memoir of his own, the excellent Testimony (2016), he described his early relationship with Levon as that of a Canadian Tom Sawyer learning the ropes from a Southern Huck Finn. Robertson’s book ended with The Last Waltz, the Band’s story finishing on a high note, just as Robertson had designed it.

The relationship between Helm and Robertson is another rock ’n’ roll archetype: one member personifies a romantic image, while another takes notes and turns them into music. Dennis Wilson was a handsome, athletic ladies’ man who surfed and drove hot rods. His older brother, Brian, was a pudgy introvert, afraid of the water. Brian listened to Dennis’s stories and wrote the Beach Boys’ songs that fixed them in American mythology. Robbie turned the stories Levon told him—of traveling medicine shows and Southern bitterness over the Civil War—into some of the most compelling music of the rock era. Years after the Band split up, Levon had decided he had been taken advantage of.

Robbie turned the stories Levon told him into some of the most compelling music of the rock era. Helm died of cancer in 2012. His final years were a long, triumphant encore. He set up regular “Midnight Rambles” in his barn in Woodstock and charged between $100 and $200 a seat to 150 to 200 people per show to sit up close while he and his band played with guests like Donald Fagen, Jackson Browne, Elvis Costello, Allen Toussaint, and many more of the famous musicians who loved Levon and were delighted to honor him. The Midnight Rambles were joyous and part of a late renaissance that saw Levon win Grammy Awards in 2008, 2010, and 2012.

In the battle for ownership of the Band’s legacy, Levon ended up the sentimental favorite—to Helm’s fans, Robertson was the clever operator who studied at Levon’s feet and then left him high and dry.

It’s a compelling story, but to accept it means believing Helm was a simple country bumpkin hoodwinked by the city slicker. And it suggests that the songs Robertson wrote for the Band were either of minor importance to their success—or that Robbie did not give his bandmates the credit they deserved as composers. Jonathan Taplin, who served as the Band’s road manager, has written that while he admired Levon, he cannot deny that Robbie wrote those songs:

“For fans of The Band, the imbalance in royalty distribution has become a point of contention, anger, and sadness. Levon was diagnosed with throat cancer in 1999, and his ability to sing was profoundly compromised. He wrote a book about his life in which he expressed his anger at Robbie for not sharing his songwriting income. But I was in Woodstock every day in 1969, 1970, and 1971. Robbie Robertson got up every morning and went into his studio and wrote songs until lunchtime; sometimes he would go back after lunch as well. Levon and Richard slept in. For siding with Robbie, I also received Levon’s scorn.”

In a radio interview with Sirius XM in 2017, Robertson addressed Helm’s anger toward him: “Levon and I never had a bad word in all of the time we were together. Ten years after we were no longer together, maybe even more, is when he started saying some negative things about me.... He was going through some rough times financially and health-wise as well. It was starting to catch up with him. And he did have this thing where he could be bitter and he could be somebody who never accepted his own responsibility. He always blamed somebody. What happened was always somebody else’s fault. I knew that about him.… I talked to him on the phone and to me he never said a bad thing. It was just strange to me that he would say that I broke up the Band. I did everything I could, and I couldn’t do it anymore. I couldn’t carry it anymore.”

Great Singer, Great Drummer, Great Spirit

Robertson has a new album called Sinematic that is filled with images of navigating the narrow road between sin and salvation. Most of the writing is dramatic storytelling about far-flung characters, from Chinese gangsters to the old radio avenger the Shadow. But he gets personal on the track “Once Were Brothers,” the title song from an upcoming documentary subtitled “Robbie Robertson and the Band”:

We already had it out
Between the north and south
When we heard all the lies
Coming out of your mouth
But we stood together
Like we were next of kin
And when the Band played Dixie
They came marching in
Once were brothers
Brothers no more

Lovable Geniuses, Preening Taskmasters?
Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm, and the complicated truth about band—and Band—dynamics

BILL FLANAGAN
SEPTEMBER 21, 2019

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John D

Yes, believe it or not Reader's Digest still survives and yes it is still great bathroom reading. In the November edition, an interview with Robbie Robertson. Writer makes some interesting observations.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Marley & The Wailers - The Heathen (Live At The Rainbow Theatre, London / 1977)
4,023,408 views
•May 15, 2008

I think once Kingston, Jamaica born Jr. Marvin joined; Marley's music became even more accessible to many more people. Heck, even JM is a fan. And once my brother heard Buffalo Soldier he woke up as he's a history expert......Rebel music found me in 1975......Canada and UK were already ahead of the Americans here. Jr.'s guitar licks brought them into the groove. American born Al Anderson's licks were more subtle.....

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brown eyed girl

JED...We have a date on December 22!!

JED...BOB MARLEY and THE WAILERS...IF I had to choose one artist/group that will live forever and forever and is probably my ultimate favourite artist/group is BMW....Positive vibrations, lyrics that inspire and bring hope, groove that hypnotizes you.......LONG LIVE BOB MARLEY!....What I really loved about the parties that my Jamaican friends had in TO and Montego Bay and Kingston, Jamaica....Always great food simmering on the stove top, reggae all night long as the parties would start around 11:00 pm and end at sunrise and everyone singing along to the lyrics of various reggae artists and dancing, dancing.....None of this walking around with a glass of wine in your hand and making small talk.....No weed with these friends. Only when they brought me to their homeland did I meet one of their family members who was growing it. Otherwise I would say the best ganja I had was actually Thai Stick. It was always recreational for me as I don't like smoking anything really.

The South American was a real smoker so probably at that time I was higher but still.....nothing beats nitrous oxide. Acid twice was like they say.....mind blowing. It's really heart breaking that someone like Justin Townes Earle and three of our Band members could not just stick to weed. Same as Robbie! I never tried coke or speed or smack or.......My pain was huge too but for some reason weed was enough. I still haven't tried any edibles but someone in my hood told me which dispensary to check out if need be. So far no depression or anxiety so I'm good.

RUNNING AWAY...BMW....While in Jamaica....three times one of the family members of course drove a BMW. Problem was getting parts when needed......

PETER V....The Mash Potato, The Jerk, The Swimmer, Do The Dutchie......

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Norm J

Subject: British Film

Thanks Peter. I guess we are just survivors. I have been watching a lot of Netflix British films recently. A film I found hilarious "Snatch" it's a few years old. The series "Peaky Blinders" and I got into Game of Thrones. I bought the whole set for my library. Funny I heard of it for quite a few years and thought it was a game. Until we moved and I got this new cable system I had no Idea what it was about. The writing and the acting are great.

When discussing this with some other people they seem so surprised that it is so good coming from England. I got to laugh and I am saying well think about it a little before you make these kind of crazy comments. There was theater and acting in England and stage for hundreds of years before there was an America.

There are so many young actors as well as older favourites of mine like Sean Bean. I spend a lot of time going over to my computer and looking many of these actors up and finding their history really interesting.

I told a friend of mine the other day. "Peaky Blinders" makes the God Father look like a Sunday school picnic.

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Jed

50 to 100 years from now which music around from the 60’s and 70’s will endure? Which music from that era will people be listening to at the time? Will any be popular favorites or cult favorites? The Band will endure for excellence but they will remain with a minor cult following. Currently the most enduring music is the Grateful Dead. Not including bands with original members(and there are and have been plenty till the pandemic) the Dead have over 1500 cover(tribute)bands. Their music,particularly the versatility of songs from American Beauty and Workingman’s Dead seems most enduring. Interestingly the Americana stuff which can be played in myriad styles and genres. The Beatles,Dylan,possibly the Stones,Lou Reed,the Blues guys...any thoughts?

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Peter V

On passing friends … we were discussing this last night. We had a very small wedding in 1977. Just close family and three friends. Two were in our stage shows, the other was my co-author, Bernie. All gone. Two of them a little younger than me. My other male co-author, John is gone. Alan, who wrote pantomimes with me and Mrs V. Gone. Then we started listing people we worked with in the 70s. So many have gone. It's a sobering thought.

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Norm J

Subject: The Dances Back Then

Enjoying your blog Peter, and the posts about these old songs and dances. Here is one of my real favourites.

Kinda sorry about my last post. I am just so torn up as I have had three of my best friends now, all while in their late 60's. Y'know after after a person, man or woman works their whole life and gets things in order so they can kick back and enjoy their trappings with no big obligations. Then that dreaded disease just takes them away.........horrible.

Enjoy Little Eva......

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brown eyed girl

PETER V....I grew up with folk dancing. Also at a very young age I remember Chubby Checker...The Twist, Feddie and The Dreamers...Do The Freddie. Ballroom dancing....Fred Astaire. Check out Take the Lead. "The Lead is a 2006 American drama dance film directed by Liz Friedlander and starring Antonio Banderas as dance instructor Pierre Dulaine, the founder of Dancing Classrooms. It also stars Alfre Woodard, John Ortiz, Rob Brown, Yaya DaCosta, Dante Basco, Elijah Kelley, and Jenna Dewan"

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Bill M

BEG: I'm not sure about Hawkins having fired the Crowbar guys. The story I heard was more along the lines of them quitting because the group had to drive down to NYC after a gig in Toronto, arriving early in the morning and learning that Hawkins wouldn't pay for hotel rooms or them. So they had to sleep in the cars and mooch around all day until the NY gig. The NY gig was prestigious - opening for Joe Cocker. Their subsequent departure took the wind out of Ronnie's sails - hence the quip about their ability to fuck things up.

All that aside, it must've been an amazing old-home-week scene backstage, with the Band there (they were in the audience), former Hawk Sandy Konikoff in Mad Dogs and Englishmen along with Leon Russell and other Oklahomans who'd gigged with Levon in LA, John Rutter from the Suedes being in Crowbar, Sandy K having gigged with Crowbar's Kelly Jay in the '60s ...

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Peter V

Subject: Try again … The Dancing Class

The links work off Facebook, but often not here. Try again!

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Lisa

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Peter V

Subject: Dancing classes

A nostalgia one on Around and Around … the 60s dancing class (and associated records. Anyone else go to ballroom dancing classes in their early teens? In the same section you'll find one on 'Dancing bands v Watching bands.'

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brown eyed girl

Subject: What The Hell I Got?

HEALTHY HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY to Montreal's MICHEL PAGLIARO...November 9, 1948.

Growing up with Pagliaro, Burton Cummings and Gino Vanelli.....They were the three mini gods at the time. My brother had similar hair and exceptional looks.....more importantly very intelligent.....Sheesh! However, he could not sing or play any instruments.....but he can cook!

Just so all the boyzzz know....All the important men in my life except one.....None of them have much hair on their head. As women we love you for you.....We are the superior gender.....You all know that and there's no discussion......We as women know that your hair our hair everyone's hair comes and goes just like our looks....although some of us do age more gracefully. Now If you still have that sparkle in your eyes......They don't have to be dark brown....You still got it going on!

LOL.....I just told JM about my post and asked him what he thought about MICHEL Pagliaro? "I don't know that woman." LOL

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brown eyed girl

Another one for BILL M...If you want BILL M to appreciate you; all you have to do is post CANADIANA period. Oh What A Feeling' charted at #10 in Canada (Daffodil Records).

"From 1969 to 1970, most of the members of the group had been a backup band for Ronnie Hawkins under the name "And Many Others". However, in early 1970, he fired them, saying "You guys are so crazy that you could fuck up a crowbar in three seconds!" They recorded their first album in 1970 (Official Music) as King Biscuit Boy and Crowbar. King Biscuit Boy left the band later in 1970, but continued to appear off-and-on as a guest performer.[1] Crowbar's rock, blues and boogie mix made it one of Canada's most popular touring bands of the early 1970s. The band toured in the United Kingdom but, otherwise, made little impact outside of Canada. Crowbar disbanded in 1975, but was revived in 1977; (minus Jozef Chirowski, who had joined Alice Cooper's band) for a tour of eastern Canada with Kelly Jay and others intermittently during the 1980s with club work in southern Ontario."

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brown eyed girl

BILL M...And then you have Mike McKenna in a raunchier band...."Mike McKenna had a party and some friends came to play some good old Toronto sit down music...
That's Tony Nolasco - singing playing the drums and hiding in the back..."

Even JM knew that McKenna has/had an art space in our hood by Allan Gardens.

PETER V...Of course Manfred Mann covered many Dylan songs.

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Bill M

Subject: can't help myself ...

I started out thinking of posting more Mike McKenna, but then hit upon his contemporaries in the group Jericho, whose only LP was recorded by Todd Rundgren in Bearsville in '70 (using Garth's leslie, it says in the notes). The first couple minutes of this song is guys trying unsuccessfully to do Band music, but then for the last three+ minutes it's an instrumental horserace among the nobody-better class of Toronto rock musicians - bassist Denny Gerrard, organist Gord Fleming and guitarist Fred Keeler, along with a solid timekeeper (Frank Difelice). Still amazes me. I've always seen Denny as the winner, because he seems to be staying in the race while running backwards for most of the race, only turning around and really showing his form towards the end. Do listen past the 2:25 mark!

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brown eyed girl

BILL M...YOU MAKE ME HIGH or YOU TAKE ME HIGH? I really like either title and I liked the song very much. I do remember McKenna from Downchild Blues Band at the Hotel Cali on Jarvis Street. Uhhh....One of my brother's friend's nickname is squirrel so.....I walked to High Park 'cause Mr. Maximus lives there still on the same street working from home. Paul James once did with his previous partner on same street so they know each other from watching their sons play baseball. Small world Toronto music scene for sure, eh?

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Bill M

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Bill M

Thanks for the link, Peter. I never liked Gary Wright, so am very pleased that Mike Harrison sang that one. He's great. Ridley might as well have had 'ROCK STAR' tattoo'd on his forehead; no wonder he went with Humble Pie. Any idea who played the banjo and harmonica on the record they're lip-synching to?

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan's JUST LIKE A WOMAN covered by VAN THE MAN. Many thanks to PAT B who alerted us to this one many years ago.
I just sounded like jh....... :-D

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brown eyed girl

Hi JON L...Pleasant mystery, eh?

JQ...Aren't you the one who alerted us to chocolate peanut butter cups?! I started buying the more pricey dark chocolate ones and nope. My brother was wrong JQ. Mr. Gourmand told me if I would only buy the better darker chocolate I wold not have to eat as many in one sitting. Nooooo.....I ate just as many yesterday. I have food sensitivities to cow's milk, chocolate.....and I've mentioned gluten before. It's best I don't even have one 'cause one ain't enough! Now I have to walk all over town to deal with the outcomes. One evening JM came home from work and just glanced at one of our end tables and noticed all the mini cups that were empty. Just one look....no words spoken.....and I knew what I had to do. Today I walked past JT's Cocord Tavern, Paradise Cinema where OWB was showing, his old high school, VV and I kept walking and walking westbound until I reached High Park.

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Bill M

Subject: Luke & the Apostles (with Danny McBride)

Here's a link to one of my very favourite 45s - top 5 for sure. "You Make Me High" by Luke and the Apostles. Not the original group, which had split in '67 or '68, but a reunion 'supergroup' that lasted from mid '69 to mid '70 when I saw them at the CNE). Two great guitarists - the group's original guitarist Mike McKenna and newcomer Danny McBride. The others on the record are Luke Gibson and drummer Pat Little from the original group and Jack Geisinger from Influence on bass.

BEG: Bob and Danny played together in the late '70s in the short-lived McBride Brothers Band, and Bob went on to sing with Ronnie Hawkins on Yonge Street after that. I don't think I ever saw Bob play, but I did see Danny a couple times - in '79 at a post-party jam that also involved Rick James and Bowie guitarist Stacy Heydon, and a few years later with the group Kearney, King, McBride downstairs at the Elmocambo. I spoke to him at the party, and subsequently gave him a copy of the "You Make Me High" 45. It's amazing to me that almost nobody from back then bothered to keep copies of their own records. Oddly enough, one exception was the aforementioned Rick James, who had a copy to the Mynah Birds 45 hanging on the wall of his apartment.

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Peter V

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Dag B.

Subject: Spooky Tooth - The Weight

British cover version from 1968

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Jon Lyness

Insomnia? Intriguing!

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Peter V

Subject: British Cover Versions

There's a new section on Cover Versions at Around & around … still incomplete, but the linked one takes you to British Cover Versions of American hits (and vice versa). There are four more articles on types of cover as well.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Who Am I To Say

Sorry NORM. Every time I posted today I wanted to say that I am very sorry about your friend's news. Some of us experienced great loss at a very early age.....It doesn't matter because diseases of any kind are brutal for all concerned at any age. And fifty years of friendship! I would say that you are a blessed person. I always say to myself and everyone in my orbit....Be thankful for the time you shared with someone however small or large....They are like angels guiding us.....

BILL M...I got Danny mixed up. He's been a visual artist for a very long time now as well.. Anyway, we'll never know but she does have the same last name and I was told.....

B.K: You miss your brother Bob who was the lead singer in Lighthouse, “Sunny Days.”

D.M: I think about him a lot and hear him on the radio all of the time – they still play “One Fine Morning" and “Sunny Days.” You can’t escape that and I’m glad they are still recognizing him. I always felt Bob was the real talent in the family. People would ask, 'what’s it like living in your brother’s shadow?' and I would say, 'it’s just great. I want him to make lots of money and take care of me the rest of my life and I don’t have to make money and get on stage and face people.' I could do that thing and just hide away and have fun. That didn’t happen. I got a record deal with CBS as Bob’s career was winding down – he had left Lighthouse and was doing the solo thing. Bob was driving me to the airport and Elton John was singing “Daniel” and it caught me – I’m going to do the big thing and I felt he should have been the one. I have a lot of respect for my brother and think he was a great addition to the Canadian talent pool. Burton Cummings said to me in Los Angeles, 'he’s the only guy in this country who scares me with that voice, your brother Bob.'

A Conversation With ... Danny McBride
Oct 07, 2016 by Bill King

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Bill M

BEG: Only Bob Mcbride was in Lighthouse. Danny McBride worked with all sorts of talented Toronto bands, but his big gig was a very long run as lead guitarist in Chris de Burgh's mostly Canadian touring band. I thought you were referring to Richard and Paul Armin, a violinist and a cellist who comprised Lighthouse's string section (it was a self-contained rock orchestra, remember). The Adele I mentioned was their sister. _

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brown eyed girl

RICHARD MANUEL

1971

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brown eyed girl

Hamilton Music Through The Ages
Steeltown's major impact on Canadian culture
By thespec-stories

BILL M...I remember now why I did not ask the possible daughter of one of the McBride brothers....I only briefly worked with her. When I checked the bios....It was heartbreaking how one of them passed.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Reggae in Kensington Market

SOLOMON...Good musical choices!

Insomnia by ROBBIE ROBERTSON????!!!!!

Paperback, 305 pages
Expected publication: November 4th 2021 by William Heinemann
More Details...

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Bill M

Who is Peter Traynor?

The Toronto bassist and amplifier builder who moved from a long series of groups with a very young Robbie Robertson to a spot with the house band of the "Music Hop" CBC TV show hosted by a young Alex Trebek (RIP).

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Norm J

Subject: As years go by

One of my best friends of about 50 years had to tell me yesterday he has cancer. His older brother who was my age died of it last year. This fellow, John had a little tug and we spent the last many years doing jobs together. This is tough. John had just sold a big place he owned down island, moved back here to Port Hardy and bought himself a nice tidy little waterfront home for him and his lady and was just looking forward to starting his retirement.

Make sure you enjoy every day as much as possible and love who yer with a lot.

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Peter V

Subject: Current listening

LINK: Shirley Collins "Sweet Greens and Blues."

Note that first line …

"If we don't make it this year, see what next year will bring …'

Last five albums:

Shirley Collins ‘Heartsease.’

Fay Hield ‘Wrackline’

Alan Price ‘O’ Lucky Man’ OST

Ward Thomas ‘Invitation’

Big Daddy ‘Sgt Pepper’s’

EAR WORMS OF THE WEEK:

Dancing In The Dark – Big Daddy version

Canadee-i-o, Shirley Colins version

Sweet Greens and Blues – Shirley Collins

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Peter V

Subject: The knack

The Knack … not only have I reviewed it (LINKED), but if you scroll to the end there are pictures of myself and Mrs V in a stage version many decades ago.

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Solomon

I heard Steve say on his SiriusXM radio show that he has already recorded a Tribute album and will be releasing it around Justin's birthday.

Last five

Rosanne Cash & Steve Earle - I'll Change For You

John Hiatt - Love In Flames

Delbert McClinton - Same Kind of Crazy

Robbie Robertson - Fallen Angel

Stevie Wonder - Boogie On Reggae Woman

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JQ

PV - I watched this today and thought it was great. Have you reviewed it?

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Peter V

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JQ

For me it’s Red Breast 12-year old, made by Jameson. Like all the good stuff, it’s best neat or with as little dilution as possible. And then take it in slowly..

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Norm J

Subject: Yeah Onions

Yer right Haso. Has to start with onions.....but.....you have to have garlic. I can't eat without garlic. For example steamed prawns dipped in melted butter and garlic. Have to have it.

Now maple I'm not a fan of. I like honey. We never use cane sugar. If sweetening is required we use coconut sugar. It is great stuff. Now about maple. I drink crown royal whiskey. Made in Winnipeg great stuff. Better than that scotch and stuff Peter drinks. However a few years ago they went like all the other distilleries and start flavouring things. Now they have apple crown royal and maple and I don't know what all. What a way to screw up good whiskey. I found out about it the hard way. When I would go out on a trip on my tug a few years back I would take along a bottle of crown royal. I went in the liqour store and grabbed a bottle. A few nights later I got tied up for the night in a logging camp. I stuck a movie in my player, poured a drink and put a little water in it. I layed back and took a drink and gawd damn near gagged. Maple whiskey. I just about cried what a way to ruin a good drink. You have to read every damn bottle now.

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Norm J

Subject: Stay

I am the greatest fan of Jackson Browne however no will ever come close to Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs. After all Maurice wrote the song.

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Bill M

Peter V: When 'covering' the Browne version of "Stay", who'd get stuck with the falsetto verse? Not just anybody can be the great and versatile David Lindley (whose big album Garth played on).

BEG: The brothers' sister, Adele, was married for many years to monster keyboardist Doug Riley; their son Ben is a very accomplished drummer.

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brown eyed girl

Subject: Vege Roti

Hello it's me....again.

"A very rare video from Lighthouse's original era with the band performing One Fine Morning on March 10, 1972 during the Maple Music junket at Massey Hall in Toronto, prefaced by some remarks from the band's late co-founder Skip Prokop.

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brown eyed girl

Good Morning! It's one fine morning, eh? Can you hear Canada's Lighthouse? Sure you can. If you don't know the song of course....I guess not. It's ok, really. Btw one of my former co-workers has the same last name as the two brothers. If my memory serves me well; I was told by another co-worker that her father was one of the brothers. Would you believe that I never asked her if it was true? I did look her up and her first name is different so who knows?

And on that mornin' when I wake up
I'll see your face inside a cloud
See your smile inside a window
Hear your voice inside a crowd
Calling, "Come with me baby and we'll fly"

SNL with NewMarket's (north of Toronto) Jim Carrey. It was here in my friend's basement that I discovered The Band website while staying over one weekend. Let's hear it for all our friends from east coast Canada! Also, Dave Chapelle is here as well as Maya Rudolph.

Norm J...I knew about Edie Sedgwick who comes from big money. I always wondered about Kyra.

On a positive note re Covid 19...brown eyed angelina is growing out her bangs. That's right! First time in my life so those of you who have met me won't be able to recognize me now. I never had the patience before but when we could not see our hairstylist for many months.......Dang! Those bangs grew and grew! I ain't goin' back......ever! I swear! And you all know I can do that too! I turned a negative into a positive alright! I sure did! Just sayin'.

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Norm J

Subject: The learning process

In addition to your comments Peter. When I was a young man beginning my career in supervision (I have 2 certificates for it too actually). One day while trying to get some work organized and becoming frustrated and doing it all myself, an older guy I was discussing it with said to me. Well you know, there is no use having a dog and barking your self. You just have to take the time to teach them.

From watching him and his career I am very convinced that is what Joe Biden is about. Respect comes to him because he has earned it. It is something Donald Trump could never learn if he lived to be a hundred and fifty-six. He is a fool.

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Peter V

Subject: Even more Rebecca

Even more REBECCA. This isn’t a new page, but having seen the 2020 film and the classic 1940 Hitchcock film, we watched the 1997 TV miniseries with Charles Dance, Emilia Fox, Diana Rigg and Jonathan Cake. I added thoughts / review to the main REBECCA article, which has been popular. Scroll down till you get to the 1997 review. It's just after Lisa's comments comparing the novel to the others.

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Peter V

Jackson Browne always did “Stay” as the encore. It has a special place for me. We recorded a version for our last English teaching series. We used the Maurice Williams and The Zodiacs lyrics, took the pace and the female vocalist from Jackson Browne and added the Four Seasons handclaps … BTW The Hollies version is too fast, blunts the melody, and is truly horrible. When we did lecture tours we played it before the talk and at the end.

Mrs V is my co-author. We did a pre-Christmas tour of Hungary in light snow. Every town was a full day of talks, set up by OUP, our publisher, and Engish teachers got the day off to attend … we opened and closed it, and went out for a wander (coffee and cake … Hungary has amazing cakes) in the other talks. Another guy had done a book and CD of traditional songs, and he did a slot before our closing one, playing guitar and teaching the audience Christmas songs in English … a great warm up. It was a fun tour because we all travelled together in a car and a minibus and had a meal together every evening … Hungarian food and wine is fabulous. We finished in Budapest on Saturday, the sixth day… about 1000 in the audience. As usual we put the CD with Stay on at the end, with the lyrics projected, and it was a great sound system. We were exhorting a singalong as usual, and I suddenly realized Mrs V had started dancing … the audience was 95% women, and they all got up and started dancing too. A fantastic atmosphere.

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Peter V

While welcoming President-elect Biden with great relief, his age does worry me … being older than me. On the other hand it started me thinking back to an era I just missed. I experienced it when my director of studies was away and I was in charge for a couple of weeks here or there. I also had to attend the meetings of all the Director of Studies in the group of schools. I saw similar early on at publishers. The MD had no computer on the desk, no rows of files or ring binders, no spreadsheets and neither e-mailed nor tweeted. A PA did all that. No one could just knock on their office door either. The MD’s role was (as one used to say) to be “the grown up in the room.” Younger people did the detailed research, argued their cases, got angry and the top person sat back, decided amongst the competing views and dispensed wisdom from experience. The other job was meeting visiting important people and forging a relationship with them so that calm discussion could take place. I imagine that will be President Biden’s calmer role and attitude. It is much needed.

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haso

Subject: stay and recipes

Peter and Angelina: I don't have the record here y'all do (not really a southerner atall but always thought that bit of vernacular made good sense, just sounds bad to the New England Yankee ear). That said, the Jackson Browne choice is the finest. Seems like we wouldn't want to lose anyone here... not enough to begin w/, I suspect.

Jeez, beg: Kevin (6 degrees of separation) singing about you? Lyrics you quote almost seems like it would be.

So now I need to check out Lindsay Anderson, Peter. It's not 6 degrees of separation, just equivalent names. I don't even know your Lindsay's gender. The Lindsay Anderson I knew at this tiny, semi-religious college in 1973, (midwestern, U.S.) was a really good-looking guy we all called "Dammit", who drove a cab in NYC during his times off from collegiate endeavors.

Norm: could be brothers "from another mother". Beans just about as you describe them. Except to also add maple syrup w/ the molasses, instead of sugar. Yep, bake all day the next day; although again, using dried beans from a local farmer I find they cook-up some faster, after the soaking. Sometimes kidneys, more often yellow eyes, Jacob's cattle, or the small/white navy (my mom always called "small pea"). She also always preferred a pressure cooker, until she dropped it one day and the bottom broke out, I guess it was as thin as tinfoil. Good thing it broke, and not blew out.

I'll have to think about the garlic. Otherwise, my chowder also starts w/ bacon ends, then onions (all sauteeing in the same pot), sea scallops, maybe shucked clams, white fish like Pollock, Cod and/or Haddock, almost always shucked oysters sauteed in some butter & wine, usually lobster meat/also a little water the lobsters were steamed in and potatoes of many hues (red, red-skinned, Maine, purple...). Finally the whole milk and heavy cream, scalded. Generally makes about 12 to 14 quarts. Yeah, all the juices go in, although I don't hardly strain anything. And very infrequently I'll also sautee your prawns (here called Gulf of Maine shrimp as opposed to the butterfly type from the Gulf of Mexico).

Ok, we gots to get back to Richard singing about old Virginny and the reason for this site. Thanks, Jan.

Biden did not walk-off to any of the OQ, but at least we got some Tom Petty ("Not Gonna Back Down").

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JQ

Our grandkid’s future just hit brighter.

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Song for Ilkka

Click the link …

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brown eyed girl

Good afternoon ILKKA....One of the biggest Dylan fans here. You speak around five languages so you're smarter than most of us and we don't always get your sense of humour. One time you posted to me twice and asked me to check out a song. I did but I did not know what the heck to say. Not too many times in my life do I not have a response to share Ilkka. I apologize as I should have said something. Many years ago many of us not only posted here but we emailed and for the most part we had fun. We shared more things about ourselves than even with outside friends. Some of us even met. And then some of us even socialized. One person I even spent two weekends at his home. Not sayin' anything else. Awww, come on......Truth is I became friends with his partner so it was all cool. JM ended up meeting them another time. I know, I know.....My life is.....not so conventional at times. If you have to split like a banana....don't go mad. Or take breaks like I do. Anyway, I will always think about the three Musketeers....Ilkka, Norbert and Kalervo.......You're the only one standing.

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JQ

Did something happen? Don’t go mate, I know I really liked whatever you posted here, for years, eons even!

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Mike Nomad

Sorry you’re leaving, for whatever reasons. Although it’s really not up to me to do so, thank you anyway for your contributions over the years. And farväl.

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Norm J

Subject: Bacon Brothers

no-no-NO! Evangelina you can't call us that. The Bacon Brothers is a band. Kevin Bacon and his brothers have a band.......By the way did you know that Kevin Bacon is married to one of the richest women in the USA? Kera Segwick's old man has left her a few billion I guess.

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Peter V

Subject: O' Lucky Man!

OK, it was 1973, but as Lindsay Anderson’s OH’ LUCKY MAN (link to review) was the (kind of) sequel to If …. I’m putting it in my 60s Retrospectives section. Starring Malcolm McDowell and many of the cast of If …. including Arthur Lowe, Peter Jeffrey, Graham Crowden. Plus a young Helen Mirren. It takes up the story of Mick Travis, transformed from rebel into a go-getter coffee salesman. The film is an indictment of post-Imperial British culture (and manages to parallel the Vietnam war in the Zingara story). I was disappointed when I saw it in 1973 and 1993. Now it all makes sense. It’s much better than I’d thought.

The Alan Price soundtrack album played all the time I was writing the review. It stands up extremely well.

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NorthWestCoaster

Thanks to gb friends who are still here. Thanks to gb friends who have stayed (and unfortunatelly left) during these twenty years or more. Thanks to Mr Hoiberg who has kept the 'puters humming.

Goodbye. Take care.

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brown eyed girl

Give thanks and praises to all the "little old girls"! We may be old but we got to see all the cool bands!! Just sayin'.

haso and Norm J...The BACON BROTHERS...angelina

Tilt your head back Angelina
Close your eyes and drift away
You've done everything that you can do
To save the world today
Don't you tell me where you're going
Baby I don't need to know
Just as soon as you are ready
Angelina I'm coming with you when you go

LISA...I have to run this morning but I will email later today. Btw, our friend Fred also uses emoticons....his are just different. :-) As I've said before...I never liked my name until I heard Dylan and Joan Baez honour my name and then I thought....Ok I I can live with it now.

Good Evening FRED. I have your grandma's name and you have Aunt Sophie's eldest son's name and...and.....You know how it goes. ;-D

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Norm J

Subject: Chowdah

Haso I'm pretty sure we must be brothers. Bacon and garlic has to season the pot for the chowdah first of all. The important thing is never to let it boil just simmer and hardly bubble. A seafood chowder (that I make) has cod, halibut, crab, prawns, scallops and clams. (sometimes muscles) The clams always go in last. The clams are cooked by putting them on a tray in the oven. When they open they are done. You drain the clam nectar off and strain it and it goes in the chowder. If you boil clams at all they turn to rubber. This is an absolute must way to make chowder you don't do it in a few minutes.

Just as you do when I make my beans red kidney beans and pinto beans you soak them overnight then the first thing that goes in is chopped bacon or salt pork and either mollasses or brown sugar. I gotta go I'm getting hungry and I'm doing Susie and I burgers and fries tonight.

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haso

Subject: bacon

Sorry to be late to the bacon-party. Kinda caught up in our election. Held signs for 3 hours on Tuesday after my friend that had set me up to be on the team opening local absentee ballots screwed up and my name was dropped off the list. Oh well, next time. I talked to the town moderator at the polls after I cast my ballot, known him for about 35 years and I think he'll be a bit more connected than my friend, the retired selectman to help me do some volunteering at the polls.

Peter: definitely like that name "streaky bacon". That's pretty much descriptive of what's universal here in the states. About the only thing you usually see Canadian bacon on is Eggs Benedict. I do, now & again get some from one of our meat farmer's, same guy I'll get "bacon ends" from... they work just as well for the 1st thing in the pot of seafood chowder ("chowdah", as we say) or home-baked beans, as the salt pork my mom always used. Salt pork's only around in old-school supermarkets and it's always those damn industrial ag people like Smithfield or Hormel. Now w/ the prevalence of Covid outbreaks in those factories, I can't believe anybody buys that stuff.

Now I got to get a list of the spices another of our farmer's (they only do bacon and sausage/better than a dozen varieties) uses in their "7-spice" bacon, for everyone's culinary delight. It's definitely killer bacon.

Yeah, Rod, we wrap it around dry sea scallops hereabouts. But I'll ask our friend who's down your way if she's had it wrapped on mussels and bbq-ed. She usu. spends 6 months at the tip of the South Island and 6 locally where she grew up. That said, your PM gave folks like her a reprieve so she's still there. Probably would rather be anyway, but I know she feels a need to see family since she wasn't about when they buried her 99 year-old dad last winter. Only relate her story because probably the best bacon we've had in a long time was the 2 lbs of "Bub" that her son brought over a good while ago. Bub was the feature of the pig-roast when he and his roller-derby queen got married 8 years back or better.

Norm, I'll have to pull out my Asleep at the Wheel for some Ray Benson singing about them chickens.

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Pat B

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Bill M

Subject: at the liberry

Rune: Thanks for the thought. Assuming that it'd be too much hassle to get a Norwegian national library card, I decided to look closer to home. The good news is that the Toronto Public Library system has 29 copies; the bad news is that there are 108 'holds'. And with COVID around, people aren't being encouraged to return whatever they've borrowed anytime soon.

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Rune

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Norm J

Subject: Depression & Movies

I understand what you are saying Lisa. I'm sorry you have to deal with depression. I have had to try to figure out ways to help my youngest daughter with it for years. It is very hard.

Some movies are more real in the mental sense than physical. What I mean is more and more in movies in this computer age the simulations they can do are crazy. They can be as gross as they want. In these newer action movies when a bullet hits some one there is a great splash of blood that flies which never can and never does happen. It is absurd. One thing forever that has annoyed me and in reality is stupid is cars tires screaming from the rubber on gravel roads. C'mon you have to laugh it is so stupid. I guess tho' when you really get into a movie and you find yourself starting to really dislike some one it just means they are really doing their job well. Two actors that come to mind that you can really dislike are Bruce Dern and Robert Gunton. Gunton was the warden in Shawshank Redemption a really despicable person.

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Bill M

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Peter V

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Lisa

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Norm J

Subject: Kubrick

Well Lisa I think it's just because yer a little old GIRL and you are too nice. Kubrick although they site him as one of the best cinematographers of all time he is one of the ones who likes to make things too real with dark humor as well.

Another one I have felt that way about is Speilberg. His movie Lamistad is that way. When the ship is running out of food so they start to throw slaves over board all chained together and they are shoving them over all naked as they scream. That is too brutal and gut wrenching to watch in a movie. I think those guys just want to make the statement.

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Lisa

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Pat B

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Bill M

I've never seen "Lolita", but a bit part was played by Eric Endersby, the older brother of a veteran Toronto musician Stan Endersby. He's in "Yonge Street Rock and Roll Stories", where he talks about being taken by his mother (!) to see Elvis at Maple Leaf Gardens; he was in the legendary Tripp with Richard Bell, Ed Roth, Neil Merryweather et al, he was in the powerful Heaven and Earth (see link) with Rick James, Denny Gerrard, Ed Roth, et al; and he was in Diamondback with local guitar god Mike McKenna and ex-Suedes Scott Cushnie. And in the '80s he was in Buffalo Springfield Revisited with Bruce Palmer and Dewey Martin.

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JQ

PV - Have you ever reviewed this? It’s on TCM right now and remains brilliant, maybe a perfect movie. The soundtrack, exceptional dialog, humor, etc, all top notch. I wonder why there hasn’t been a new version made. It might be just too hard to beat the original. James Mason, Shelly Winters, Peter Sellers - c’mon, that would be a strong deterrent to try it again.

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Bill M

Subject: Thomas Mapfumo

Decided it was time to listen to one of the best albums of all time (top 10 for sure), "Chamunorwa" by Thomas Mapfumo and the Blacks Unlimited. Was fortunate to see him once, at the last of the annual Afro-Fests held at Queen's Park.

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Norm J

Subject: Cindy Cashdollar

I found a vid of Cindy sitting on her couch playing Waltz for Abeline solo. I've always loved this lady's playing. She is a doll too.

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Norm J

Subject: Waltz for Abeline

Don't know how many of you may have seen on Facebook, the "Acoustic Guitar" review of Cindy Cashdollar's new album "Waltz for Abeline". This has to be great.

There is so many great players on the album and great songs go to Acoustic Guitar to read the review. Amy Helm sings on the album.

I just had to change this because behind the Acoustic Guitar I put the dot calm and Jan's bouncer Johnny Cash attacked me!

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Good morning BWNWILos Angeles! You are sure stirring up some ghosts here. You were always one of my favourite people here. As I've said many times....If it wasn't for you I may have never kept on posting. So many good memories with you Tenn! Hope LA is treating you well? I know that you can take care of yourself but still....Hope you are meeting good people as you did from your home state, Tenn and from Cabbagetown. ;-D

Perhaps also Robbie and Levon grew apart personally as well. It doesn't mean the deep friendship didn't mean anything as it once did. At that time they were on a mission! Mission complete! As you know....Think of all the friendships you've had here and in your every day life....If you don't grow together or nurture it.....Well.....You meet other people on your journey in life and have different experiences. The memories remain. Sometimes they help to sustain you during difficult times and other times.....best to not go there.

"Doing this reveals a rounded narrative about the extraordinary series of events that gave birth to The Band, and the clash of Robbie’s voraciously aspirational search for knowledge and status with Levon’s “Hell, let’s just play” mentality that signposted the death of this joyous group even at the moment of its greatest triumph, The Band."

Bacon Fat Levon & the Hawks

Occasionally I eat bacon as it's not good for your joints...former avid skipper......Skip, skip, skip to my Louuuu.....It can only be chicken or turkey bacon and it has to be super crispy or I don't go near it.

brown eyed angelina's Chicken home cookin'...
Jerk Chicken
Stew Chicken
Chicken Curry
Lemon Herb Chicken
Yogurt Cinnamon Chicken

I like Tandoori chicken as well but do not have the right cooking apparatus. Yesterday JM made stuffed peppers with left over chicken and also made chicken soup. One of the most sexy things a man can do for his partner is to cook for them. We'll see this week whether brown eyed girl goes solo or not.

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Peter V

The crispy bacon on a US buffet is what we'd call streaky bacon

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BWNWILos Angeles

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Rod

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Norm J

Subject: But.........but........but

Never heard of streaky bacon Peter. The only bacon you get with rind on now-a-day is slab bacon. Any sliced packaged bacon has the rind removed. I guess you call it streaky because there is streaks of meat and fat.

Now you should see the bacon in Australia. In our usual 350 gram or 500 gram packages the bacon strips are about 8 inches long. In Australia the gawd damn sliced bacon is about 2 feet long and it is in bulk as they buy what ever amount they ask for. I don't know if it's huge pigs or they cut it a different way.....I don't know.

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jh

:-/

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Peter V

I thought from US restaurants that Canadian bacon was mainly meat with a rind, while "bacon" in the USA was what we call "streaky bacon" in the UK. What the US calls Canadian bacon is just plain bacon here.

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Norm J

Subject: Canadian Bacon

I forgot to mention Haso (regarding your bacon). There is nothing like fresh local bacon. I always liked getting the slabs of bacon so I could cut it to thickness I liked. When I lived in Langley in the Fraser Valley not far from me ( I had chickens there too) there was a little corner store quite a nice little market. This guy bought local double smoked bacon and back then about 35 years ago a side cost me about $25. The best bacon ever.

Now there is a thing about Canadian bacon I have never figured out. There is no doubt a lot of good bacon done in the USA every where. When you go down through Washington State right down into Oregon many of the taverns and cafes you go into to get breakfast on their menu they have in big letters and brackets (Canadian Bacon). In different places I asked why. Waitresses say Oh! there ain't nothin' like it........oh...........ok.

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Norm J

Subject: Gallo del cielo

Hey Haso! How gozit. As you used the Spanish chicken it prompted me to thrill you guys with this song of Tom Russell's (a guy whose music I really like). Now this is one bad ass rooster.

I have seen those other color eggs. The green ones come from white chickens as well if memory serves. It's funny those chickens the good old boys call Dominicker arE actually "Dominique". But it comes out of their mouth more like Cajun I think.

The very small chickens "Bantam" lay small but very tasty eggs. I had Rhode Island Reds. As you say Haso the free range, I used to sell eggs to quite a few people. One customer "Marion" a big Dutch lady used to ride her bike all the way out to our place wearing a big yellow pair of wooden shoes. It amazed me how she could peddle that bike with those things on.

I'm sure most all of you also remember "Ain't Nobody here but us Chickens."

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brown eyed girl

Five Things Seen and Heard

ONE NEXT OF KIN

"I spent a part of this week being intrigued by Loyle Carner, a gentler form of MC, whose songs often ride on summery jazz or feel-good gospel while they talk of cooking pancakes for an imaginary sister, missing his student loan or grieving for his late stepfather. Still very South London (Croydon, to be precise) but there’s something interesting going on. Oh, and the cover of Yesterday’s Gone harks back to Music From Big Pink… bandcarner

TWO BOOKS CORNER: NEXT OF KIN PT. 2

Which neatly leads on… I’m gonna recommend the Robbie Robertson book, Testimony, to y’all. It puts proper flesh on the bones of many of the stories that have been told again and again – such as how they sourced a new drummer once Levon Helm bailed on the 65-66 Dylan tour, and why Robertson ended up photographed alongside Alan Ginsberg in front of City Lights bookstore in 1965 – as well as providing a sense of the dizzying nature of their work with Dylan. It’s light on the specifics of his songwriting, the recording process and the evolution of his guitar playing, but strong on portraits of the many characters that cross his path. If you read this alongside Levon’s “Wheels on Fire” and Barney’s “Across The Great Divide” and “Small Town Talk”, you can patch together a story with at least seven different sides, Rashoman-style. Doing this reveals a rounded narrative about the extraordinary series of events that gave birth to The Band, and the clash of Robbie’s voraciously aspirational search for knowledge and status with Levon’s “Hell, let’s just play” mentality that signposted the death of this joyous group even at the moment of its greatest triumph, The Band. I mean, Bunuel and F.S. Walcott’s Medicine Show had much in common but – in the end – not enough.

EXTRA! MORE After mentioning Lou Reed’s “Dirty Blvd.” in the synaesthetic wine thing (here) a couple of weeks ago, I spent some time looking for songs that could possibly be covered by an unnamed legendary rock singer as he contemplates a new album. In my trawling I was looking at a couple of songs on Robbie Robertson’s “How to be Clairvoyant”, an album I’d never given the time of day to. It’s really good – my slight antipathy to solo Robbie is breaking down. And that led on to Lang Lang’s take on “Somewhere/Dirty Blvd.” It’s kind of amazing, almost 12 minutes of pianistics, bombastic percussion, “Somewhere” sung by Lisa Fischer, and “Dirty Blvd” spoken by Robertson. It’s on Spotify, although not on YouTube, if that has whetted your appetite.

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brown eyed girl

From New Wave, to Funk to Country.

Johnny Cash - The Chicken in Black

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brown eyed girl

From New Wave back to Funk.

RUFUS THOMAS - DO THE FUNKY CHICKEN. LIVE FILMED PERFORMANCE 1972

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brown eyed girl

I don't know just what to do,
He's got a crudge against Frank Berdo,
He's clucking a lot, but he's not saying anything,
I plucked him once! Why pluck him again?

A psycho chicken
Better run run run run run run run away
Oooh oh oh oh aye aye ayee

Fools - Psycho Chicken 1980

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Todd

Subject: You calling me chicken?

Interesting to hear all the clucking about chickens.

We've never kept chickens personally, but many people do in my area, and it's pretty easy to buy eggs locally which has been nice, especially since a trip to the grocery store has felt like a high-risk activity over the past half year or so.

As a kid I never understood what caused the difference between white and brown eggs. I was always told that brown eggs were local eggs and white eggs came from somewhere else. Never made sense to me, as it seemed that all chickens (and their eggs) would be local to "somewhere", and therefore should all be brown, given that explanation! It wasn't until I was about 30 years old when I saw that chicken eggs could also come in colors like green and blue. None of our local chickens were that exotic.

A friend of ours keeps chickens for eggs, and gives all of them names. He like to give them names of chicken dishes. So he has chickens named: Chicken Parmigiana, Chicken Cordon Bleu, Chicken Cacciatore, Chicken Noodle Soup, and so on. Kind of a twisted sense of humor, but gave me a chuckle!

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haso

Subject: chickens and the like

Norm... absolutely, free range eggs are it. A few chicken stories. No, I don't raise any, funny my spouse brought that up just a week ago. My mom was the farmer, but she's been gone close to 25 years now. Thing is there's at least 20 to 30 places hereabouts (w/in 10 miles I'd say) where there are free range eggs. I'm going to have to ask our daughter about those 2 heritage breeds you're talking about. She works at an old farm/wildlife restoration/camp/nature preserve dating back to the early 20th century where they have a bunch of heritage breeds in the chicken barn.

Here, in the States, we are what are called serious "locavores". It's not just the eggs, when you've had local-raised and cured bacon you'll never go back to that industrial Oscar Mayer crap, no matter how much they discount it.

Good story too, on egg colors. We have this lovely elderly Asian-American man who only sells eggs, he calls them "paintbox eggs"; ea dozen has 4 white 4 brown and 4 pale green ones. He's so popular, you have to order them ahead. (We go elsewhere, but I enjoy helping him bring his product in to Winter Market).

So, I did have a customer in a local, small city close-by... Norm you probably won't believe it but the only way you can keep your own chickens there is if they all have names. I guess that tells the local authorities that they're pets.

Last, Peter, we understand your dabbling w/ vegetarianism. On the flip side, visiting our daughter in Central America years ago: when her friend goes from 4 chickens in the tree to 3 the next day, you enjoy the chicken soup at lunch. And after she lived (in a different country) in a family's compound w/ 20+ chickens and 7 or 8 gallos (roosters), the vegetarian tendencies disappeared, at least for the last dozen years. She'd happily "strangle any one of those gallos". The idea that roosters only crow at dawn is a complete fabrication.

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Peter V

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Norm J

Subject: Bullshit

Westcoaster was the name of an old wooden tug than been around longer than god. It sunk. When I bought my tug I took the name. Why would I care about some sport fish in Finland I've never heard of......silly.

Why am I being persecuted and harrassed by some Finnish hippie from the 60's who is in Sweden.........Whasap with that??? :-)

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NorthWestCoaster

In the 80s my brother and other truck-driver daddies around started a club which they called for "Westcoast Fly Fishers". There were fly fisher clubs before but they were for bourgeois people only. (By all means listen to Taj Mahal's blues number 'Bourgeois Town'). Fly fisher club 'Westcoasters' in Finland is still going strong even today. A Guestbook profile must have heard the name of the club and copied the name to his vessel: Westcoaster.

Simple like that.

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NorthWestCoaster

Sorry Norman. I was only listening to 'John _Wesley_ Harding'. How could I knew it?

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brown eyed girl

Listening to JUSTIN TOWNES EARLE while making garlic herb chicken since Jazzman has to work today. He could be a sous chef so he cut up all the vegetables before he left. I know, I know....He's trying so hard to distract me from the OC. I don't think it's gonna work 'cause I know how to cook. Sheesh! All the men in my Tribe know how to cook and I mean cook. Even the South American was an amazing cook. He was very social so we had many dinner parties with great music as he could really dance.....Days gone by.

And I should be in my room, and I should learn how to forget
Well, she may be pretty
Oh, but someday I'll get sick of her shit

I am waiting for Christchurch woman in the rain
The rain keep coming
But it ain't enough to cover the pain
And I am waiting for Christchurch woman in the rain
And its early evening so there's hope for a better day

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brown eyed girl

Subject: November is Men's Mental Health Month!

The Hawk and Toronto Libraries.

I was a jaguar last night while out and about in my hood. I wore all black and my jaguar mask. Just sayin'.

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Norm J

Subject: ???????

I want to know what this Norman Wesley stuff is about as Wesley is my second name. Copying my Westcoaster was enough bullshit. Sow hy am I putting up with this now?

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Big Daddy

I’ve just added an article on AROUND AND AROUND on Big Daddy, the wonderful American covers band. They did hits of the 80s and 90s but in late 50s / early 60s style. It’s an expanded version of a Toppermost article … their “back story” explaining why they hadn’t heard any of the original songs, and only had the sheet music is very good … I’ve quoted it in the article. You may never have heard of them, but you should try them out. Their masterpiece is Sergeant Pepper’s … every track re-imagined in late 50s / early 60s styles.

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'Norman Wesley Chesterfield'

Subject: Young women and old blues men

In the early days I had this female colleague: a long hippie-style skirt, a soulful and poetic face, long red hair like a which, rolling her own cigarettes the gypsy style, a French car, listened to Mississippi John Hurt, sang like Emmy Lou. I was like melting ice-cream! She was befriended with an old man in our job. I never understood this. - It must have been the blues in the air.

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'Norman Wesley Chesterfield'

Subject: Chickens in the blues

Our British friends here in gb (hopefully) still remember the blues oriented band 'Chicken Schack'. British blues is in my DNA no matter what Sonny Boy Williamson said: "European guys want to play the blues so bad - AND THEY DO."

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'Norman Wesley Chesterfield'

Subject: The blues. I mean The bluuuueeesss!

To Norman J: Thanks for your chicken joke. I am happy to read that three-legged chicken survived. - I am still nervous. I drove in low speed yesterday thru the woods which are called for 'Smokey Mountains of Southern Sweden'. A lot of deer ran over the roads in high speed. There is a wolf around... Poor sheep and chickens.

We Finns have a poor self-confidence. Everything from other countries are bigger and better. Without no reason at all, actually. We are independed country between too strong countries; Sweden and Russia. That's more than good enough.

I came to think of a Finnish band 'Hanoi Rocks'. Never heard of it? No? Probably you are not living in Japan where these guys were mega-stars. The lead singer took the sexy name 'Mike Monroe' and the keithrichards-style guitarist was known as 'Andy McCoy'. Today my handle will be 'Norman Wesley Chesterfield'. You see: NWC!

I could have been chosen to be called for 'LuoteisRannikkolainen' (NorthWestCoaster in Finnish). Norman Wesley Chesterfield sounds more like the Southern blues, right? (It is because Muddy Waters had the same family-name.) Probably you know Tampa Red and 'Going Back To Florida' by Lightning Hopkins. BTW I happened to see Muddy Waters in one of his last performances. He sat on a chair but the power of the blues was there!

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