The Band Guestbook, October 2018

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brown eyed girl

Neil Young meets Charles Manson. Revolution Blues

"The poignant track carries some star power with it as well featuring the talents of David Crosby on rythm guitar, Levon Helm on drums, Rick Danko on bass, and Ben Keith on the Wurlitzer. Crosby in fact was not a fan of the song at first telling him “don’t sing about that. It’s not funny,” but Young didn’t find it funny. He was in a dark place in his life and you can hear that through the depressing and angered songs throughout the album.

“Revolution Blues” snapshots a dismal point in American history and showcases the horrors of what one person can think and do."

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brown eyed girl

Rick Danko
79.10.12.

"To put it simply, this guy is Aston Barrett of American country, soul and foremost funk playing, because:

First, he feels rhythm like only a professional after like 15 and more years of playing can, he can play anywhere, ahead, behind, on the top of the beat, he can identify any 16th note within the bar he wants to play and he will do anytime even thought the rest of the band plays straight (check out e.g. King Harvest Has Surely Come). You know, I believe he did no play much notes because (or maybe one of the reasons for that would be) he understood how much fun is to "play" with the rhythm as the bass player, how you can change the sense of groove, because only the less becomes more, or as he said, what is not there is more important than what you play. Just the rhythm part makes him a funkateer on line with Jamerson, Bootsy, Graham, Miller...

Next, he can add a sense of a moving harmony only with one note playing. Check, for example Unfaithful Servant. If you let me know which chords are in the chorus, I'll be grateful, I still haven't deciphered some parts of it. Plus he uses chordal approach, his starting point being triads, but starting on 3rd, 5th of the chord (check the Servant again). It is so refreshing in times when everyone learns scales with no relation to the chords (harmony). He makes such interesting bass lines only knowing the voice leading chord tone to root, root to chord tone etc. That implies great knowledge of harmony.

And last, the tone. Holy ****, how did he make such a deep bottomed, rounded, punchy sound with a pick? Sometimes you cannot tell what is the bass drum and what the bass guitar.

If these reasons are not enough for you, check out Neil Young's Revolution Blues from the On the Beach album. As much as I love Crazy Horse, this just kicks ass, with Rick's slides adding that eerie something to the already dense, almost horror like atmosphere of the song..." talkbass.com

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brown eyed girl

Trick or treat...or rock n' roll? Why choose? If you need some of the best Halloween rock songs, we're your ghouls. Happy Hallowe'en!

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Peter V

Excellent article by PSB which makes the new box set even more eagerly anticipated.

On “melodic bass players” Rick Danko was not alone in running into trouble from a bandmate. This is from the “White Album” issue of Mojo. What a brilliant idea it seemed to do a plain white cover, but a newsagent told me that he had a stack of returns because no one noticed that it was Mojo. Anyway,. They interviewed Paul McCartney:

“I remember George would bitch about my bass parts – which you know, I listen to them and sometimes they’re pretty flowery. They’re not just dung, dung, dung, dung … Sometimes there’s big melodies in there. I think the bass would probably irritate George ‘cos it was a bit too flowery. Or it seemed to be at the time.” Paul McCartney.

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Bob F

Subject: PSB's Review of More Blood, More Tracks

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Rod

I watched an interview with Tony Levin recently. He talked about a big KC tour.seems like well balanced guy. Loved his playing for Robbie and Peter gabriel

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brown eyed girl

"Lou was very near death, you can hear his life energy dissipating. He was summoning some last available energy for this interview."

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brown eyed girl

STYLE ON FILM: THE LAST WALTZ

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brown eyed girl

An Almost Complete Guide To The Gear Of TLW

Last Five Kensington Market
Livin' For You...Al Green
Good Friend...Violent Femmes
I Call Your Name...Willy DeVille
Desperado...The Eagles
I Wonder...Robert Cray

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Pat B

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Ed Sheeran v Marvin Gaye

This potentially changes the songwriting debate. A fascinating comparison by Rick Beato (linked) of Ed Sheeran's Thinking Out Loud v Marvin Gaye's Let's Get It On. Sheeran was subject of a mega million law suit for ripping it off. The tempo and chord progression and groove are near identical, as are the bass and drums. He cuts them together. As Beato points out the crucial top line, melody, differs though. So in standard legal precedent, there should be no case BUT Marvin Gaye's estate won a similar case regarding Got To Give It Up.

Lyrics (valued usually at 50%) are obviously different as in He's So Fine versus My Sweet Lord, but they argue over the music 50%.

Fascinating analysis by Beato on the linked video.

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Peter V

Subject: King Crimson

Review of the first Show(s) in King Crimson's late 2018 tour. Linked. One to see! Tony Levin on bass for a Band-ish link.

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brown eyed girl

Funny how time slips away....

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brown eyed girl

What this world needs today
A little spiritual healing
And everyone has got to say
That it's a good feeling

Spiritual Healing
So good
It gives a higher feeling (oohhhh yeah)
Spiritual Healing
So good
It's good for your bad feeling

Satisfy yourself and be a part of it
(be a part of it, c'mon and be a part of it)
Reunite your love and be a part of me
Hear what I say...

Open your heart so wide
Let love come 'round in here, believe
If you have that love in your own life
Let it shine (x3) yeah

Living in this world of today, we don't love
It is a waste of time
If you have that love in your heart
You gotta give it to em with the spiritual feeling

Songwriters: Frederick Hibbert (Toots of Toots and The Maytals)
Spiritual Healing

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brown eyed girl

Songs That Matter: The Band, ‘The Weight’
“The Weight” belies its name by beginning lightly, with the keen tickle of strings, precise yet also casual. You feel like you’re on someone’s porch, down home, listening to a few folks make music at sundown.

“The Weight” is not folk-rock, nor what Time magazine, in their cover story on The Band in 1970, called “country rock.” It is gospel music. Every performance of it I was lucky enough to hear at Helm’s home in Woodstock made you feel like you were in church, on a quiet night — or at a glorious camp meeting, on nights when “the barn” was packed to its strong rafters for a special guest like Mavis Staples. The night she came to the Midnight Ramble, Staples stood radiant between her goddaughter Amy Helm and Levon, pressing both lovely hands to her chest on every “put the load right on me.” The performance was transporting. There were funny times, too. One celebrated guest, despite his reading glasses and the lyric sheet in front of him, didn’t know the “crazy Chester” verse that the guests were usually given the honor of singing. He flubbed the words, and Larry Campbell, longtime leader of the Levon Helm Band, slid next to him to sing into the mic while everyone in the barn, as usual, sang along. Levon was bent double over the drums, laughing like a little boy — genuinely tickled to pieces both by someone lousing up, and everyone helping out."

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Pat B

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Peter V

On bass and Rick, way back near the beginning of this forum, certainly whileRick was still with us, some one from the 90s Band camp commented that Rick was not a “riffing bass player.” It caused a minor flurry at the time. I knew what he meant, though one can point to Don’t Do It as as fine a piece of riffing bass playing as you’ll find. But Rick was not one to plod on with a riff from choice.

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Jon Lyness

Subject: Re: Band vocals

I was at a restaurant last night where the sound system was playing 60s/70s pop songs, and the Big Pink version of The Weight came on. As many umpteen times as I've heard it, hearing it out of the album sequence and in an unfamiliar context I was really struck by the freshness of it, and how different it sounds than the Beatles and other big pop groups. The Band's vocals are just SO cool -- just as described by Glenn/BEG's article -- and there's this frenzied, yelping quality when they dig into each chorus that was (somehow, after all these years) a real surprise. The original studio version also sounds a bit more laidback, and more like a gospel song, than the smoother live versions that I think I've gotten used to.

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Glenn

Thanks BEG for the article links and, in particular, that quote about The Band's vocals. It's really true that when other groups' vocalists layer and align their vocals so tightly they lose the color, impact and delight that the aggregate of Rick's, Ricard's and Levon's unique, individual contributions provide. There certainly is some beauty when the vocals coalesce more uniformly, but the effect of The Band's separate but equal blend seems to provide a fresh and rewarding impact every time I hear them. Not sure I'm explaining this as well as the article, but I think we all know what I mean. And I believe the different combinations of those Band voices also sets The Band well apart from other groups: Rick and Richard together, Richard and Levon, Rick and Levon. I can't think of any other group that had so many options for coloring their music vocally as The Band did. I think it's what helps keep their music sounding so vital and rewarding listen after listen!

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brown eyed girl

The Band’s ‘Rock of Ages’ Is the Greatest Live Album Ever

"The Band was different. Levon Helm’s voice was a throaty Delta burr. Richard Manuel’s was a black-coffee moan. Rick Danko’s was a high, clear sob. They didn’t sound anything alike. When they sang, they stumbled in and out and over and under each other, Appalachian-style, making no attempt to neatly align every note. And yet the effect was at least as potent as Lennon-McCartney-Harrison or the Wilson-Love clan. Usually with harmony, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. But with The Band you can hear always hear the parts and the whole at the same time, and the force and beauty of each is undiminished. A seamless blend is breathtaking, but you get more music for your money with The Band—more lines and phrasings and shadings per second, more to discover and delight in and return to. No other group is like that."

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brown eyed girl

Call Me Levon
By Ken Gordon

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brown eyed girl

Listen: Legendary Record Producer John Simon
By DAVE MICHAELS • JUN 29, 2018

John Simon sits down with Dave Michaels for an in-depth conversation and trip down memory lane about his start in the record business, producing for some of the era's greatest artists, his thoughts on music today and much more.

haso...Always good to see you. Thank you.

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John D

Peter I too was very surprised about the comments; regarding Rick's melodic bass playing; therefore Levon used Leon. I have never heard that before. Also and to your credit Peter, Simon tells us an important fact about songwriting and who was in fact the songwriter; in the Band. It's the person who sits down and ACTUALLY writes the words and music that is the songwriter; even if he or she has been told stories that would lend thoughts to the song.

Now after saying that I would remind people of my Johnny Mercer, Bobby Daring story; about Mercer having a hard time with a song and Darin gives him an important thought on the song. Mercer then credits Darin with 50% of the writing. Darin does ask him why. Mercer replies; "because you gave me inspiration." Now that was Mercer's choice.

I was also interested in Simon's first hand knowledge of Garth's Genetic Method. Simon could tell the "mood" Garth was in by the way he would play it. If Garth was in a good mood the method would be played more bouncy and playful. Some interesting facts; in this book.

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Bill M

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Peter V

No one picked up on that strange statement about the 90s Band, so I’ll re-post it:

Nearly at the end. John Simon said this about "Jericho."

"Then Levon told me he had enough of playing with Rick's melodic bass playing and craved a steady, more conventional player. So Rob Leon, a Woodstock fixture, would play most of the bass parts on the album."

Looking at the sleeve notes, Rob Leon is credited with bass on Too Soon Gone, Amazon and Jericho. There are a lot of sitting-in guests on the album. From John Simon's note, you'd expect it to be Stuff You Gotta Watch, Same Thing and Blues Stay Away From Me, none of them interesting enough melodically for a bass player of Rick Danko's quality. Paul McCartney and Rick Danko were the two great melodic bass players. I noted Rick looking bored on the blues numbers on stage, and Levon used to play bass guitar on Crazy Mama live. 12 bars with a basic riff are hardly challenging. I also realized that Amazon, Too Soon Gone and Jericho were not performed live. Did Rob Leon play more than he was credited for? Or was John Simon overstating it with "most of the bass parts."?

David P was our resident Allmans expert. I guess we’d had Led Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac, Groundhogs, Savoy Brown , Blodwyn Pig, very early Jethro Tull and many others, which meant more white boys playing blues riffs was not a major thrill however well done. I still think the Rolling Stones were never bettered in that area.

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haso

Subject: 5 and catching up

Wow, things have gotten a good deal more active on the gb; or I've just been sleeping.

Glenn: happy you did use the "t" before, but understand no need of it now. How's fall in TX, hopefully a bit cooler?. Agreed, as I've said before, nice to see BEG and Lisa on here. Any other women out there? Especially any willing to go toe to toe w/ that ol' seadog, Norm?

Peter V: I was able to get the local bookstore to acquire John Simon's memoir from the alphabet company for a reasonable mark-up. I appreciate the rationales you enumerated, from the author's point-of-view. That said, since the owner and I get together over coffee to discuss local and other politics on occasion, I figured the least I could do was buy "Truth..." through his shoppe. I do find it's layout a bit curious w/ what seems like an excessive amount of what architects call negative space. That said, as 1 chapter is titled, he was "The only one who was there". I'm on my 2nd read-through of Sammy's pool house, before I finish the book.

On books, finished the Joni bio "Restless Daughter", just before I got the J. Simon book. Complicated artist, that's for sure. Hard to believe w/ the voice she had, that she may have exceeded Levon in nicotine intake.

So last 5, tried to start w/ the 2000 remaster of MFBP, but the jewel case was empty in the car, found the cd was still to home. 5:

40th TLW: disc ending w/ Van's Caravan. Unfortunately had a bunch of gunk on the cd from glue in the packaging/ book that it came in and skipped all over that tune ("the most house", Mac).

King Sunny Ade: odu

Neil Young: Live Rust. Wondered if the 1964 version of RR listened to the acoustic parts of this, would he think Neil "a strummer".

The Avett Bros: not sure of the title; came w/ a small, maybe 45 rpm add-on. I often hear of them as drawing from the OQ; to my ears I hear more of the Fab 4 and Lyle Lovett than The Band.

Allman Brothers: Beginnings, which is the combination of their 1st album and Idylwild South. For Peter and those of you on that side of the Atlantic: in some fashion this early Allman Bros would seem like a response from a (primarily) white band of U.S. musicians to the Stones and Led version of the blues. Was it JQ, here, that was so well-versed on the Allmans? Does my analysis on Beginnings square at all?

Last 2 notes: saw a band live I've spoken of here (Dustbowl Revival) about 2 months ago, grateful to them to mark 50 years of MFBP... opened w/ "Don't Do It" and 1/2 way through mentioned MFBP before covering "The Weight", all be it using a pre-recorded organ part as they don't mix a keyboard in w/ 2 horns, a mandolin and a fiddle/violin among 8 players.

And wishing Jeff A., Bob F., and any other folk in particular, peace and comfort in these post-Pittsburgh times.

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brown eyed girl

3 Photos of The Band
Austin, Texas
1976

The Band - Austin 76 by Scott Newton

from 600.00
The Band, taken at the Sunday Break II in 1976 by photographer Scott Newton from our exclusive collection,
The Scott Newton Archive.

Available as a signed, limited edition photographic print

Photographers notes: The Band coming offstage. Sunday Break II, Austin, TX. 1976. When photographing musicians I usually prefer to shoot them performing, with the Muse running through them. Sometimes, however, they are just so cool as people that their off moments are just as revealing. This would be one of those times. These guys had "cool" just dripping off 'em. They were the real deal.

Don't forget to click on photos to enlarge to receive the full effect. ;-D

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brown eyed girl

WRITING
Richard Manuel
Richard Manuel's Piano

Enter Butch Dener into the conversation in article...
I have to say it again...I still can't believe I was waiting in line to see The Rascals in NYC and Butch and his partner walk right by me. Btw ask your partner about cabbage town girl emailing her about painting to raise money for your medical bills. It was me and I think bw ended up buying Zzzz's painting. Life can be strange, eh?

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brown eyed girl

Photo of BAND
UNITED KINGDOM - JUNE 03: ROYAL ALBERT HALL Photo of BAND, L-R: Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm
(playing guitar), Rick Danko, Richard Manuel (on drums), Garth Hudson - performing live onstage
(Photo by Mick Gold/Redferns)
575.00

Norbert... :-D

Derozan was an all-star but not a superstar like Vince Carter and Kawahi Leonard. Superstars win games...especially in the playoffs. He can play offence and defence. Derozan and Lowry cannot play defence, although only now Lowry is passing the ball more. I kept yelling for Demar to PASS THE BALL. What I do love about him is that he's opened up a conversation about mental health. As we all know...It doesn't matter how much money you earn, how famous you are, how fortunate you are to make a living following your passion and skill set...Depression, anxiety, bipolar, etc. affects EVERY ONE EQUALLY.

I know that I'm in trouble when I go into a second hand store and spot Landy's photo book for 20.00 and I just stare at it and just leave it on the shelf. No big deal as I have two other books by Landy. Same as a photo book of Vivian Maier's work. Again I have another book of her work and partner has two of her work but still, at that time it meant nothing to me. And since books and music are everything to me...I knew I was slipping when I had no interest. Yoga and homeopathic remedies eventually snapped me out of my funk and I am back to posting. Sorry...lol.

Last Five
Last Goodbye...Jeff Buckley
Sunshine Reggae...Laid Back
Running Up That Hill...Kate Bush
This Old Heart Of Mine...The Isley Brothers
How Could You...K-Ci and Jo Jo

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John D

Peter can't find the December edition of UNCUT over here as yet; with Dylan on the cover; as it is apparently the December edition.

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Ragtime

Subject: Norbert

Laat mij daar midden in oneindigheid

The Band vernemen dat mijn oren klonken.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Bob Dylan

My recent sentimental post got me thinking of BOB DYLAN. - 'John Wesley Harding' is my November album, 'Christmas album' is my (you are not dumm!) December album. All the cold months are dedecated to his meaningless and cold and no-sensitive and no-political albums after he amazing 'Shenandoah' - track. "Self Portrait" is so June and July (I had the similar nylon shirt back then). 'Nashville Skyline' is August. 'New Morning' is so September.

That's it.

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NorthWestCoaster

This is a so tragic post that even NORM should have a Cleanex on the bridge of his vessel.

I have posted before that this happens only once in a lifetime. That was not true. It happens twice!

I had a friend in the late sixties who guided me to the music of Bob Dylan and WOODY GUTHRIE. His brother was a Dylanolog and Finland's best writer in his genre: historical plays. (I borrowed his "John Westley Harding" and scratched it during a lunch break ... I will burn in hell for that!) Their interest in Woody was real, in music and in the real life. They all three were hit by this awful Huntington decease. My friend died for a few weeks ago. That's it... the end.

Norbert is/was a similar friend to me for years and years ago when I had the hard times. I hope and know - and believe - that I was the good friend to him and helped him to save this guestbook.

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Bill M

Has anyone mentioned "Telstar"?

Nicely done, Norbert. You were gone too long, but now we know you put your time to good use.

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Norbert

A few year now I have this recurring dream: At the mall I buy shopping carts full of Band CD’s.
This morning I told my wife Els about it, after I was finished, she was silent for at least 10 minutes and then said: “Norbert you lost the Lord ….” now she lovingly touched my hand and continued “ …but you found The Band ….” She's right, here are 10 powerful Band miracles.

Testimony 1: The cyclist
During the tour The France this year, the evening before the time trial, Hollands best cyclist and world champion Tom Dumoulin found out he had forgotten his skinsuit. Now what to do? Dumoulin was pissed. Tom’s boss, Sunweb manager Iwan Spekenbrink was desperate, finally Spekenbrink called Exteondo (the skinsuit firm from the Basque Country in Spain).
Exteondo called up their best and already retired seamstress Maria Avangaro. She worked the whole night to make a new suit. During that night she played The Band out loud, over and over again. It gave her the strength to carry on she later stated. At 3.30 am she stepped onto the back of the fast motorcycle of her son Miquel. They drove 500 miles, Maria in agony clinging on to Tom's suit … but just in time she handed the new suit to Dumoulin and told him her story. Needless to say that Tom won the race by 1 sec. After the race he thanked Maria but she refused to accept his gratitude. With a soft-spoken voice, she answered devoutly, "No Mr. Dumoulin, don’t thank me, please thank The Band".

Testimony 2: La gloire de mon père
At a young age Marcel Pagnol’s father left him. The father was broke, didn’t have nothing anymore Marcel didn’t see his father ever again. But before the man left he said to Marcel: “Little Marcel, I have to go now and I have nothing left to give you but my love for The Band”
Marcel Pagnol is regarded as one of France’s greatest writers. He later stated that the love for The Band, he once got from his father Marcel Sr. was the best thing he had ever got. And that without The Band he never could have written his 1990 filmed novel ‘La Gloire de ma père’.

Testimony 3:
During The Last Waltz Burton Richter and Samuel C.C. Ting discovered the subatomic J/ψ meson particle (although some claim it was 1974). Richter and Ting are Band fans, many Nobel Laureates refer to the little subatomic particle as The Little Band particle now.

Testimony 4: The Brown Eyed Girl
The Brown Eyed Girl.

Testimony 5: The man in the wheel chair
Last Sunday Els and I went cycling to the nearby lake. We lost our way, randomly I turned left, right, left, left, right, finally we arrived at the lake. Just in time to see a man in a wheel chair hit the water. I jumped after him and we pulled him and his wheelchair out of the water. We dried him up and as I placed his headphone, which was still playing, over his ears again I noticed he was listening to The Band. That evening I knew it wasn’t us that had saved the man from drowning, it was The Band. Unknowingly The Band had pointed us in the direction of the drowning man. Wonders do happen with the Band.

Testimony 6: The dog
When our dog was young he was strong and proud, always at my site when I played the Band. Nowadays he’s old, almost blind and almost deaf. He stumbles around, bumping against tables and chairs, often sinking into depressions. Only when I put him my head phones up he smiles and is waving his tail. The Band gives him the spirit to carry on and empty his cup of life dignified. The Band helping pets to survive.... Testimony 7: I'm still working on 7

Testimony 8: [Deleted, jh]

Testimony 9: Fries The Band
In Germany I worked next door to Döner – Pizzeria - Imbiß specialty restaurant Aktas. One day I asked them to make a special meal with all my favorite ingredients: a bratwurst- fries layer, topped with shawarma- döner covered with Dutch cheese heated in a grill oven till the cheese melts.
Okay it’s not healthy but it tastes good, soon other customers also ordered this meal. As I’m a vivid Band fan, always talking Band in the restaurant they named the meal “Fries The Band”. It became popular in the whole of Germany, Belgium, France and Holland. Fries The Band reached the Nepalese capital city of Kathmandu in 2017, when a chef returning from a visit to Germany was asked to prepare a "typically German" meal (he replaced the shawarma with chicken). Now Nepal is in the ban of The Band meal too.
Anyway, thanks to The Band young people, all over the world, who have never heard of The Band now eat The Band…..(The Band works in mysterious ways)

Testimony 10: The Fairy Tale Road
In Germany there is a wonderful, famous, road, they call it The Fairy Tale Route. Situated on this fairy tale route, in a fairy tale village, stands a lovely little fairy tale house.
In this fairy talest of all fairy tale house lives a Band fan; Jim von der Lippe. Jim has 5 sons: Garth, Richard, Rick, Levon and Robbie. Every day Jim and his five sons play a Band song in their little garden in front of their little house. People that walk by will stop and hum along.
So if you’re ever in Germany and hear Jim, Garth, Richard, Rick, Levon and Robbie sing a Band song in front of a wonderful little fairy tale house, know it all not just a fairy tale.

Have a great weekend all, cheers.

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Jed

Derozan was an excellent player for the Raptors. But Leonard is a whole different level of talent-a multidimensional athlete who can shoot,drive,pass,rebound and play defense, all at a high caliber of play. Since the game is way different today,where defense has taken an extreme back seat to prolific offenses,Leonard’s true genius won’t be fully appreciated. Come playoff time,when the game is more about defense and the refs let them play Leonards skills will be noticed big time.And I’m not meaning to be minimizing his offensive skills either. This guy,when healthy,is a top 3 player in the world. And really fun to watch with those larger than Dr. J hands!

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JQ

The organist from The Sir Douglas Quintet. He went on to do that with the Texas Tornados.

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brown eyed girl

Just one more...and then there are organists who can sing. Not on this song but...I just need to hear it because everyone is feeding off each other and probable my fave song from this concert.

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brown eyed girl

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brown eyed girl

Robbie Robertson- Loved my time in Montreal
Mitch Melnick talks life and music with the Legendary Robbie Robertson
TSN Montreal 690

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Peter v

RIP Tony Joe White

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brown eyed girl

Robbie Robertson – people told us: “You’re americana”

"Along the way. . .we heard this expression, ‘Americana.’ People then were saying, ‘You’re Americana.’ And I was like, ‘We’re from Canada. We’re North Americana, maybe.’ But isn’t that ironic? Isn’t it ironic that you’re accusing me of something, and I’m not even from here? There’s a poetic beauty in the way things work out. I’m still not sure I know what it is.”

It took a lot of rehearsal to get ready for The Last Waltz. “As a musician,” Robertson tells Shiflett, “you can appreciate that we had to learn 20-some odd songs that we had never played before, going from Muddy Waters to Joni Mitchell, who has too many chords in her songs, and tunings that your fingers can’t even reach! It was a feat of musicianship to play all these different songs with all these different people. We had no cheat sheets. We had no music stands. None of us read music except Garth. . . It was a music feat of everything: dynamics, styles, everything, to play with all these different people, and nobody screwed up anything the whole night. It was a Guinness Book of Records! Match this!”

Let's Go Raptors!!!! Danny Green leads in pluses on the floor. He can communicate with reporters with ease. He evinces sheer joy. How could anyone not want to be around him? I dig him as I dig Kawahi Leonard. And Danny's smile...and he has a basketball camp every summer in Orillia where Gordon Lightfoot is from. Positive energy has hit TO! :-D

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brown eyed girl

The Secret Jewish History of Robbie Robertson and The Band
Seth Rogovoy
November 23, 2016
Getty Images
Read more: https://forward.com/culture/354993/the-secret-jewish-history-of-robbie-robertson-and-the-band/

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brown eyed girl

Wild Honey Orchestra, Featuring Jackson Browne and Garth Hudson, Triumphs Again with Tribute to The Band
Written By Paul Zollo // March 30, 2017

"Soon as he started playing however, there was no doubt who was there. Launching into a remarkably epic and inspired version of his famous solo organ fantasy “The Genetic Method,” which precedes “Chest Fever,” he immediately entranced everyone there. Later he delivered an extended piano solo before the gorgeous “It Makes No Difference” that was remarkable in its range and power, blending jazz, blues, rock and roll, Broadway, classical, folk and more into a soulful and seamless whole. It was amazing, and reminded us yet again why the guys in The Band, long before they had become The Band, went to Garth’s mom and asked permission to put her virtuoso boy in their group."

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brown eyed girl

Norfolk County Ontario's Garden
Footsteps of Rock Legends Start in Simcoe with Rick Danko and The Band

Last Five Downtown Toronto
Independence Day...Bruce Springsteen
Angeline...Joe Cocker
Price Tag...Jessie J Featuring B.o.B
Dying To Live...Edgar Winter Band
My Back Pages...Dylan 30th Anniversary

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Norm

Subject: Tony Joe White

I just see on a friend's Face Book page Tony Joe White has died. Damn I was just listening to his music yesterday. I saw the best comment I've ever seen on the Youtube vid of him singing Boom Boom Boom Boom. A woman simply wrote, "I'm moist again!" Few people had a voice that equalled his. Susan's sister Donna who is one of those gawd damn fanatical Elvis fans tried to tell me "Elvis sings Polk Salad Annie better than Tony Joe White!" Crazy old woman Elvis couldn't even come close. There is a black and white vid on Youtube of a very young Tong Joe singing and playing that song. His voice and his licks the way he wrote it can't be equalled.

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Norm

Subject: ? & The Mysterians

96 Tears 1966 one of the most notable organ tunes. Recorded in a living room! I wondered when you'd get to Booker T Peter. Yer slowin' down old son!

Regarding Peter bragging about the Englishmen's "large organs" That evokes the story about old Ollie. He comes home from work one day with a handful of five dollar bills. His wife says "Olaf! where did you get all that money?" He said well at lunch time today at work the boys was playin' dis game they called "Long Cock!" Every one put a five dollar on the table then they open up their zipper and pull out their organ. So who has the longest win all the five dollars. Olaf!! you didn't show dem dat ting did you? Only enough to win Olga.

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Peter V

No discussion of organ pre-Band can ignore Booker T & The MGs.

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Peter v

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Peter V

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JQ

Thanks Pat. The Animals and Rascals of course. I loved that take of HotRS - still, to this day! And the organ part really makes it go. That’s your favored instrument to play, right? It was the first song that I could play and sing at the same time, after 20 years of trying... only playing part time though!

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Pat B

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Todd

Subject: Masterpiece

And while I'm at it, I'll post this link to a version of 'When I Paint My Masterpiece' from an Amy Helm show from 2017.
They look like they're having heck of a fun time with this one! Pure joy.

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JQ

Listening to TSTIThrow the organ stands right up front. I’m only using my memory but it seems that was a rare thing back then. Lots of piano players in that era but, aside from Like a Rolling Stone, I’m having trouble recalling any recorded piece with an organ placed high in the mix or a group using that sound live. If my memory serves then this is another original element that The Band (to be) led with. Although, as a youngster, I was a big fan of Dave Baby Cortez’ The Happy Organ - I think that would be a good name for a massage parlor!

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Todd

Subject: The Stones I Throw - Amy Helm's version

Hey folks. Just popping in and noticed mention of 'The Stones I Throw.

I've been meaning to post something about this since seeing Amy at a show in New York state a few weeks ago. She's been performing it recently, and it's also one of the tracks on her recently released album named 'This Too Shall Light'. It's really a wonderful album that rewards repeated listening. I'm still finding nuances in it that I didn't notice the first few times that I've played it.

At the link is a video of Amy performing it at a Paste studio session earlier this month. We all know that Richard Manuel set a pretty high bar and offers a uniqueness that is all his own, but I think Amy does a really nice job on this, and manages to capture a sense of his phrasing. Check it out!

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Bill M

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

This one is for Pat B. Btw, I did make it to O'Hare Airport via Gulf Shores Alabama.
16 Photographs – January 3, 1974 – Bob Dylan & The Band Chicago Stadium
Good night. Good bye.

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brown eyed girl

Debut single from Levon & The Hawks - The Band!

"Bob Dylan would contact the club in August, just weeks after famously “going electric” at the Newport Folk Festival..."

"Before the Hawks changed their name to the Canadian Squires, then soon after to Levon & the Hawks after parting ways with Ronnie Hawkins, members of the band — credited as Mark Levon Helm, Eric Hudson and Jamie R. Roberston, along with jazz and R&B bassist Jimmy Lewis, a young Michael Bloomfield on piano and Charlie Musselwhite on harmonica —recorded an electric blues session with John Hammond Jr., which would become his Vanguard album So Many Roads, released at the beginning of 1965."

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brown eyed girl

Hi Lisa...Did you see the photo of the very young Robbie, Levon and Rick? Hands down Rick! ;-D

Van the Man: "Another great early duet is from 1971 — “4% Pantomime,” with the Band. I sang it with Richard Manuel. I was living in Woodstock, and Robbie [Robertson] asked if I could write a song with him. That’s what came out of it. That song was about Richard — he’s in the lyrics."

Hi John D. I forgot info was on this site. I just quickly did a little research and found info for you but I have no other info to share. I do have Greil Marcus' Invisible Republic on Basement Tapes. Maybe some info there?

Dreadlock Derek Rose...He wears them well. Kawahi Leonard! Finally the Raps acquire a superstar since Vince Carter. I love his zen like everything's cool man play making. Thank you, even if you're only with us for the year! Watching the game now. I watch them all...Brings joy my way as does watching many times Van and Wavelength. :-D

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Pat B

The Band, Rooftop of the Hilton Hotel, Mayfair, London 1971

The Band had been booed back in the 60’s when Bob Dylan had the audacity to go electric and shock the purist folkies at the very Royal and Loyal Albert Hall. They were back to play there again, brave lads! I was sent along to do a group shot for the Melody Maker front page and all was well taking a few individual pics of The Band until I asked if I could do a group shot. ‘We don’t pose’ they answered in union! Drat! What could I do? From deep in the darkened room Albert Grossman appeared. He was Bob Dylan and The Band’s manager and was in his dressing gown, carpet slippers wearing thick glasses. I’d met Albert a few months earlier when I photographed a very young Linda Ronstadt. I told him that I needed a group shot for the front page or else I’m ******! Albert nodded silently and asked the lads to pose for me. They weren’t too happy about this but I did manage to shoot a few rolls of film atop the Hilton Hotel. The concert they played was brilliant and nobody booed; only cheered!

Barrie Wentzell

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Dave H

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Lisa

Also, in the second set it's interesting to see the Winterland configuration of the Thanksgiving dinner and dancing, and a great photo of Winterland from Garth's keyboard's POV.

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John D

No need to reply Beg on that Basement Tapes question. I went to Band Resources on this site and click on the link that is in my subject line. It just says not found. Not sure if he's following the Band anymore?

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John D

Beg I can't believe I never went to those pages that you sent me to. Incredible. Just Incredible information.

However I notice On the Basement Tapes there are only a few tracks listed; where in fact there are 24. Do you think it may be updated one day? Thank you again. I wonder where all that information came from?

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brown eyed girl

Van Morrison - Wavelength - 2/1/1979 - Belfast (OFFICIAL) with added bonus violinist Toni Marcus.

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brown eyed girl

Long-lost 'Last Waltz' 43 photos from legendary S.F. concert discovered amid dust.

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brown eyed girl

I don't see this photo in the library.
18-year-old Rick Danko at the Summer Garden in Port Dover, Ontario in 1962.
Even a photo of Dylan's daughter Desiree with Bob, etc.

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John D

Thank you everyone for your help.

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Bill M

Subject: there goes the Robert E Lee

See link for a possible new sense of the phrase ...

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Norm

Subject: John D

Hi John! Don't know if you ever got to watching some of the youtube videos for example, "The making of Up On Cripple Creek" or "The making of Rockin Chair". There is quite a lot of commentary from, mostly Robbie & Levon as to why who sang lead and who played what and why. They are very interesting.

One interview with Levon on these is how he says. We would maybe all take a turn at singing a song and then we would discuss who should sing it and why. Much of this is at the sound board in the studio and it really is very interesting how these songs evolved and the thought process that went into them. Just my two bits worth.

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Glenn

Yes, love that song of Van's, and the album of the same name is good (Garth contributes), too. And I like Natalia from the Wavelength album. Coincidentally I just listened to Otis Redding's "Fa Fa Fa (Sad Song)" a couple of days ago. The disc included Otis's set at Monterey Pop festival: great, energetic versions of Shake, Respect, I've Been Loving You Too Long, Satisfaction, and Try a Little Tenderness.

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brown eyed girl

Hi Glenn. I found the link before I saw your post. We were on the same wavelength I guess. Isn't Wavelength a great Van song btw? I was on my way to participate in a medical research project for a PHD student in kiniseology when I hear on my Nano.....Fa Fa Fa (Sad Song). I think I've posted this one before. I like it as Papa Wemba from Zaire has a nice dance step while he's groovin'. One of my students' father made a cassette for me with his songs. Just out of the blue he did that for me. I can't tell you how any act of kindness warms the heart.

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Glenn

Thanks for posting that link BEG. John D: that's the link I mentioned for finding who plays what.

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brown eyed girl

Who Plays What Instruments The Band.

Last Five Songs:
Ultimate Sacrifice...Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise
People Got To Be Free..The Rascals
Fa Fa Fa Fa...(Sad Song) Papa Wemba
It Isn't Going To Be That Way...Steve Forbert
So Political...Spirit Of The West

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Glenn

think I'll drop the T when posting my name (since I seem to be the only Glenn these days). Anyway...

John D: On this website click on the Library link, then click on Lead vocals in Band songs, then click on link that says See also Hideki Watanabe's "Who Plays What Instruments on Band Songs"

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brown eyed girl

Amos...Thanks for your help. I will probably go with Covenant as I love Real Good Friend for the lyrics and the groove.

glenn t... Thank you kindly. :-D

"During this time, while Helm was temporarily absent from the group, Manuel taught himself to play drums in a technically irreverent, “loosey-goosey” style, a little behind the beat, similar to jazz drumming. In the Band era he would frequently assume the drummer’s stool when Helm played mandolin or guitar. Examples of this are the songs “Rag Mama Rag” and “Evangeline”. Manuel’s drumming is prominent on the album Cahoots.

The early months in Woodstock also allowed Manuel and Robertson to develop as songwriters."

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John D

This might seem like an odd question; after all these years; but after reading John Simon's chapters on The recording of The Band, talking about Richard switching to drums on particular tracks and Garth moving from organ to piano. Is there any documentation on who played what on all Band recordings? Obviously we know the main instruments of each member; but I found Simon's way of talking about Richard's drum style quite interesting and amusing; which may be wonder what tracks throughout their career did the boys switch instruments.

By the way I do admire Simon's honesty; when for example he mentions he had never heard of Otis Redding; before Monterey Pop Festival. Found that hard to believe.

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Norm

Subject: Best of.......

There is so much music to cherish. This morning I woke with Roy Orbison in my head singing "In Dreams". I just listened to it with the head phones. I doubt there is a more beautiful song and voice.

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Norm

Subject: Penquin Eggs, Prawns & Crabs and of course the music

A lot of exciting information coming forth! Hi Dunc! managed to get Suz and I a small feed of prawn and crab yesterday. The commercial prawn season here is very short in May however there was 18 boats here this year and they really cleaned them out takes a quite a while for them to build again. We have so many summer people here now they really clean up the crabs too. As well we are plagued with sea otters they have taken so many crab. We used to get crab any where from 20 to 60 feet of water. Now we have to set traps at nearly 200 feet.

Peter very kindly sent me two of Nic Jones CD's including Penquin Eggs. They have given me a great deal of enjoyment and I turned my brothers and other friends on to him. Very unique and beautiful guitar work.

I am now not sure whether I'll get across to your land next late spring as I had planned. Susan needs to go to Australia again and see her daughter and grand kids. Her sister is going with her as I refuse to take that killer plane ride again. So I would have to come by myself.......I'll have to think on this.

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Bill M

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Peter V

You need to get the latest Uncut … the covermount CD is "The Best of The Bootleg Series" with 12 Bob Dyan "Bootleg Series" selections. You're A Big Girl Now is the first release from "More Blood, More Tracks" - just Bob and guitar and as the notes point out the noise is his shirt or jacket buttons on the back of the guitar. It's a really good selection across the series.

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Dunc

Subject: Penguin Eggs

Peter the V is a great contributor to this site and over the last couple of years has expanded my knowledge of English folk music, that's English not British you guys on that side of the pond and he recently introduced me to the work of Nic Jones. So when record (CD) collecting on Friday, I was in search of his work.

The only thing I could find, and which I knew of already because of Peter was 'Penguin Egggs'. It is a brilliant album, which I missed.

It's in the Observer list of 100 greatest British albums between 'Let it Bleed and 'Station to Station'; and was voted he second most important folk album on Radio 2. I must have played the first album a thousand times. (Scots would vote differently because we listen to a different folk programme up here.)

Nic Jones sings and plays guitar and fiddle really well.. There are a few other instruments on the album, all great, but I particularly like the harmonium, and the instruments come together as beautifully as when the Chieftains play.

I suspected a couple of songs were Scottish and I was right, written by a Scot, who worked in the whaling industry after the war. You always need a Scot.

The link to this site is that Bob Dylan has obviously listened to it as he covered the excellent 'Canadee I O'. (Hi Norm). I like Bob's acoustic albums and sometimes he gets criticised for not giving credit to the original arranger. But I think this is unfair. Everybody from pros, to semi pros to good amateurs played Dylan songs in the folk days.

Great album.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Pat B, Peter V, Stephen, Dave H and HVD. Enjoyed the recent posts. Good to hear that Rick is a good guy.

I always liked your post years ago, Pat B, when you posted how you collected Garth's'Genetic Methods'. It underlined to me, a non musician, how good Garth was. And I remember someone explaining to me Richard's piano role in the band.

Also it was because of Peter V and a couple of others that I understood how great a song Visions of Johanna is.

Thanks John D. I really appreciate your stories. It's another reason I enjoy the GB. What is interesting is that at some time when touring this side of the pond, Art Garfunkel said that the reason he and Paul Simon split up was Paul's height. I thought he was just being nasty at the time.

Hi Glenn...I echo your thoughts.

I am playing 'The Band' just now. It is just absolutely brilliant. Still sounds so fresh.

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Bill M

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Tom G

Subject: Winterland

That is a great find, Pat B - thank you! I'm grateful I got to see them 20 months later. Hard to imagine what it must have been like to see their first ever Band show. Very special.

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Lisa

This morning's paper had an article on a new 4-part series on PBS called Native America. It says, "Looking through the lens of what Glassman calls 'native knowledge and modern scholarship', the series, narrated by Mohawk and musical legend Robbie Robertson, brings together history, science and tradition to uncover and celebrate stories."

Glenn t, thank you for your kind words.

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Peter V

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Pat B

Wow. A great first hand account of the Band's maiden show complete with photos I've never seen. Wow.

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Peter V

Subject: Visions

I found the site. There's more to say, including Robbie spending a week on the first stereo mix of Blonde on Blonde. This is what he has to say on "The Cutting Edge", Complete Version, Disc 13, Track 10:

So now, from the second verse onwards, we have Dylan’s vocals punctuated by Robertson’s improvised electric guitar fills. This seems to have been Robertson’s only appearance during the February sessions, and some have disputed that he was there at all. But his style seems to me unmistakeable. Like most risk-takers he made a couple of slips, and these were edited out for the original US mono album; but most other mixes have left his notes untouched, and that’s the way it is here too. For this take someone is recruited to play cymbal strokes in between verses; this was recorded separately from the drums, on the same tape track/ stem as Robertson’s lead guitar. For the US mono mix this stem was quite low in the mix, and had its higher frequencies heavily damped; here it is presented rather more clearly, though still not as loud as on some of the later mixes.

(FOOTNOTE): Charlie McCoy, interviewed in Hit Parader, October 1966, said that “The second time Dylan came in he brought his own guitar player with him – Robby Robertson – who by the way is one of the best blues guitar players I’ve ever heard in my life.” Daryl Sanders, who wrote a good article on the “Blonde On Blonde” sessions for Nashville Scene in 2011, maintained the same, and credited the lead guitar on ‘Visions Of Johanna’ to Wayne Moss. Another possibility is that the original February recording was in fact made with one of the Nashville guitarists playing lead, and that during the March sessions, when Robertson was present, Dylan had the original lead guitar track replaced with an overdub of Robertson’s guitar, adding the cymbal at the same time – much like the drum overdub for ‘4th Time Around’. There is no documentary evidence of overdubs being recorded at the March sessions, but the lack of recording sheets for the Nashville sessions makes matters more obscure, so this cannot at present be ruled out.

(In the Sanders book, Jerry Kennedy gets credited not Wayne Moss)

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Pat B

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Bill M

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John D

Thank you Lisa.

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Stephen Novik

Subject: Music From Big Pink 50th anniversary edition release

Yesterday I purchased the CD version of MFBP's 50th Anniversary edition, I wasn't sure what to expect. I certainly enjoyed it, and I'll listen to it again because it invites the opportunity to re-listen to the other MFBP releases. I was especially shocked to hear the "new" mix of The Weight, which included the 'cut' Hammond organ part played by Richard. It was amazing to hear that bit in its original context-- made me think-- 'I've never heard that before'! and yet, I had-- I just wasn't aware. With the headphones on, you can faintly hear it (like a ghost!) on the 1987 MFBP, the 2000 MFBP (all CDs I've listened to-- my preferred format, though I do appreciate vinyl as well.) and... just listening to ROA version of The Weight where Richard plays it after every chorus! It was so new to me yesterday that went looking for mentions of it on the 'Net, and I discovered this version was released in 2005 on iTunes! It makes me wonder why it was originally cut in the first place.... I'd love to hear from anybody else about this-- or anything else I should pay attention to on MFBP 50th!! Thanks!

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glenn t

I just want to say how wonderful it is to have Lisa and BEG back in the conversation. You were missed! The world's got too many boys' clubs. Your contributions are vital and essential. Thank you, thank you.

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Lisa

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Peter V

New generations, constantly prompted by hundreds of photos, will remember in more detail than we ever did. I'd go to Paris for a week in the 70s, and take one twelve shot Kodak film, use it, and half would be crap. Nowadays you'd have 200 digital photos.

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Peter V

Dave H. Thanks for revealing info. To me, the overdub makes sense – the guitar is so entwined with the lyric, that it needs someone who can get deep into the lyric and respond to it. A post-dubbing session makes this more likely. Either it’s Robbie or the unsung Nashville guy was a genius who had an inspiration for a style that Robbie copied ever after.

Session sheets, as The Telegraph magazine articles discovered, record who was paid under the union rules. I’d guess Robbie & Al Kooper had their own side arrangement with Dylan.

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Rod

Peter, that's an interesting quote from John Simons book.(still waiting for my copy to arrive). The bass parts never seemed that dankoish to me. It would be a shame if it was true. Seems like they used "The Band" as a moniker for those albums. Way too many guests.

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John D

After 50 years of doing artist interviews, I have found and so have many others; including famous authors: who do this for a living, believe that the musician's memory (MOST TIMES) is not your best authentication. It's hard for them to remember different sessions of decades ago. That's why you have to look to the people around them for some accuracy. Robbie's a smart guy and I would tend to believe his story about Visions; but most times musicians are not the most reliable for factual information. Not their fault! They were "living it" not "documenting" it. Peter Guralnick and I discussed this at one point.

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John D

As Bill M will attest, CHUM-FM led the way in playing British rock thanks to music director Benjy Karch; who loved pretty much everything that was coming out of England; during the early 70's. Gentle Giant was indeed a staple.

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Dave H

I haven't read the new book yet, but here's my understanding of the questions surrounding the lead guitar on "Visions of Johanna." There were two separate Nashville sessions for Blonde on Blonde, February 14-17 and March 7-10, 1966, with a break in between during which Dylan continued to tour with the Hawks. Surviving records indicate that the album cut of "Visions" was recorded on February 14, 1966. But there is no evidence that Robbie Robertson accompanied Dylan to Nashville for the February recording session. He's not listed in the musician files for those dates, and he's not obviously audible on any of the other tracks cut during the first batch of recordings—even the early alternate takes of "Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat" also recorded on the 14th. (It's hard to imagine Dylan cutting that song in particular without Robbie playing on it, if Robbie indeed were in town.) Indeed, Robbie himself implies in his autobiography that he only attended the second set of Nashville sessions in March, which produced the album version of "Pill-Box Hat" as well as a few other cuts on which his guitar is by all accounts present, like "Pledging My Time" and "Obviously Five Believers." And Al Kooper's memory is not unimpeachable—Kooper has been known to insist that Dylan only made a single trip to Nashville in 1966, which is surely wrong given the other available evidence.

So how could it be Robbie Robertson playing the lead lines on "Visions"? Roger Ford's hypothesis is that RR was overdubbed later, at some point during the March sessions, onto the original February 14 recording. His evidence for this claim is that he doesn't hear any bleed-through of the lead guitar into Dylan's vocal mic in the surround-sound remix of "Visions," unlike the other instruments on the track. Seems plausible to me, though there isn't any documentation of such an overdub. I certainly agree that the playing sounds more like Robbie than any of the Nashville musicians, but I wonder whether this will remain a mystery—perhaps appropriately so, for a song that itself is so musically and lyrically shrouded in shadows, dreams, and tricks played by the night.

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Peter v

They used to be Simon Dupree and the Big Sound and were superb live so I believe it

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Bill M

Lisa: I hadn't heard the 'legally blind from birth' part before either, and it doesn't sound likely. It seems that he'd always worn thick glasses, but I don't think that's the same thing, necessarily, as being legally blind. (Of course, what's 'legal' changes from place to place and time to time anyway - viz just this Weednesday.)

HVD: Nice story about Rick.

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JQ

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JQ

I’ve read that Jeff Beck uses a load of that on his right hand as a sort of lubricant. That he want a slippery fret board.

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Norm

Subject: Jeff Beck & Tal Wilkenfeld

Got up this morning....05:30.....arthritis in the shoulders aching like hell. Got me a coffee ......and a couple of Tylenol.

So I put on the headphones and relax myself listening to these folks at the Cross Roads 2007. So as I'm watching this I notice something. At 1:30 on the tape there is a closeup of Jeff's hands as he plays. It looks to me like he has a lot of resin on his fingers of his right hand. Must be resin huh?....couldn't be the other stuff.......could it????

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Peter V

The new Daryl Sanders arrived yesterday. I have two train trips this weekend and was looking forward to reading it on the train. I opened it at random to find him stating that Robbie does not play on Visions of Johanna and was not in Nashville that day. We've done this before and someone managed to ask Al Kooper face to face. I'd go with Al Kooper, but I felt irritated and don't feel like reading the rest yet. A novel takes its place in my bag.

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Hudson Valley Dude

Quick story, saw Rick Danko years ago at the Turning Point in Piermont. Had some albums and things for him to sign, waiting outside his bus, weather was poor(forgot if it was raining or freezing),he opens the door and says we shouldn't be waiting outside to come inside his tour bus and he will sign everything and answer any questions (WOW)so we proceed inside ,he signs everything talks to us for a while,I ask is there any chance he will play "Unfaithful Servant" he says its not on the setlist,anyway we thank him for his kindness and go into the club get a table at the side of the stage watching the opening act. He comes in heads for the dressing room in the back see's me walks up to the stage grabs a guitar points at our table and plays "Unfaithful Servant" and goes to his dressing room to get ready for his show that didn't start for another 45 minutes. That's the kind of guy he was !!

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Lisa

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Peter V

Subject: Cliff Richard review

Long review of Cliff (Sir Cliff) Richard and his 60th Anniversary tour. Might be news for North Americans. His first hit was 1958, but to my surprise he is actually 6 days younger than John Lennon!

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Dunc

Subject: I don't want to have a nice day, Amos

I agree, Amos. I really like that version of 'Excuse Me Mister', but I don't know the original.

You've got me playing and enjoying Greg Brown, including playing the above mentioned track...and smiling.

A starting point is to get him to either play solo at Celtic Connections or in Transatlantic Sessions is to contact the director of Celtic Connections, our big New Year festival. However there will be a change of director this year.

Contact donaldshawatglasgowconcerthallsdotcom

Hopefully he will respond. Thanks, Amos.

Hope you got some prawns and crabs, Norm. Had a Scottish prawn baguette with side salad at a pleasant cafe for lunch. Played several Village Stompers' tunes - I know the tunes. What an unusual dance in the video.

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Bill M

Lisa: The BBC is onto the Cushnie story - though there's no mention of Robbie or Ronnie. I'm glad they noted that Scott had a great sense of humour and would have found the story hilarious if he'd been here to hear it. That's exactly what a friend who guested with the Suedes a couple times told me on Tuesday.

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Norm

Subject: What's in a name

Well Bill it just means to me now there will be more people just "legally" blowing that shit in my face. I got nothing against it. The smell of it just makes me sick for some reason.........oh and Bei Bir, I thought maybe you were a great fan of that kid whose name we don't like to mention (Bieber is it?) :-)

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John D

Subject: Scott Cushnie

Been a lot of talk about Scott Cushnie the last few days. Very sad news of his death for such a brilliant musician and a very giving person This is called Early In The Morning.. He was there back in the beginning of the Toronto Sound. Here is a track from Two Pianos No Waiting. There are in fact 3 pianos. The late great Doug Riley and Ms. Joan Besen.

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Bill M

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Amos

Going Driftless: An Artist's Tribute to Greg Brown (Various artists)

Milk of the Moon

Covenant

Freak Flag

The Evening Call

Dream City: Essential Recordings, 1997-2006

I hope you find his music as wonderful as i have done over the years.

Dunc - Transatlantic Sessions has to be a contender for the greatest music series ever! John Martyn's version of Ben Harper's Excuse Me Mister is one of my highlights from the series. I just want to know how to get Greg Brown on the next series? I think he would be perfect.

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jh

Subject: Don't Start Me Talkin'...

Garth at The Vault in Camden, NJ, last wekend, talking about playing with Richard and Levon.

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Norm

Subject: To me you are beautiful

You had it almost right Bill. The second word is Mir. I remember long ago trying to find the real meaning. I had it pretty right. However now a day on the internet here there is contradiction. I haven't found the original of the song. It means to me you are beautiful. Some want to say it is a Yiddish folk song. Others say it is just plain German. There is no way for me to know. I think the song came out around 1937 there is umpteen different recordings of it.

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Bill M

Lisa: Thanks for your note about Scott Cushnie. He was a nice soul and a fine musician. I was surprised that he even had a website - see link - which fortunately is still up. Taken together, the videos give a pretty good sense of his music and style. If you have time for just one, try the top right. If you remember 1980, you'll know that not many people were playing those songs like that.

Norm: Scott's Professor Piano and the Canadian Aces album includes a nice version of "Bei Bir Mist Du Schon" (spelling?), I believe. As does "The Canadian Aces Live at Albert's Hall", recorded back then but not released until Pacemaker put it out on CD in 2009.

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Norm

Subject: Village Stompers .........AGAIN!

Dunc, on youtube you can get "Top Tracks of the Village Stompers". I'm sure what you would also like is their song "Bei Mir Bist Du Schon". What you will be hearing is a real Dixie Land, N'Awlins brass band sound.

Funny you mentioned brass and I immediately thought of the Village Stompers. I haven't listened to them in years but in the early 60's they were really hot!

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Norm

Subject: Village Stompers

That's all great stuff Dunc and I'll be listening to as much as I can. Make no mistake. It's a great way to spend retirement. When I have time. My retirement is a busy place.

Right now our weather is beautiful (what we call Indian summer). I had wood piled and tarped outside. I'v used a little so that I have room to split some more and get it inside which is what I'm doing as well as getting little chores on my boats done. I also have to get the prawn and crab traps out.

I mention the "Village Stompers" because if you like brass, listen to "Washington Square" way back from the 60's. It starts with banjo then becomes full blown brass. A real catchy tune.

Retirement is GREAT!

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Dunc

Subject: Spencer The Rover

I've spent about three hours on this today. One of my favourite English songs is Spencer The Rover. I think it is from Sussex, Peter, Roger - so a great Southern English song.

I came across it on Sunday's Child by John Martyn, years ago. But I liked the lyrics - universally appropriate - someone away from home in Yorkshire missing their children. Also chosen by English guys on Desert Island discs ...and I can see why.

But today I played versions by Shirley and Dolly Collins, beautiful singers; a recording by Robin Dransfield backed by a brass band - I like brass bands; an unaccompanied version by the Copper Family from the fifties, and this family kept the song alive - enjoyable too. I don't know anything about these singers.

Then I heard a modern, beautifully produced version by the Irish singer, Cara Dillon, this version influenced by John Martyn's version.

But my favourite version is from Transatlantic Sessions and John Martyn is backed by Danny Thompson, Phil Cunningham, Ally Bain and Jay Ungar. Absolutely brilliant. Have a look on Youtube.

If you give it a go on Youtube, take a look at May You Never by John Martyn with Danny Thompson, Kathy Mathea and Jerry Douglas. Over a million hits.

I think this is a valid use of retirement time...mmm...

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Peter V

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Norm

Subject: Alll the Road Running

Glad you enjoyed that Dunc. I believe I made one error. I called Richard Bennett, (Brian). I have a friend named Brian Bennett I suppose is where that came from. There is sure a great linup of musicians playing with Mark on that tour.

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Dunc

Thanks, Norm. Played the album on Youtube and enjoyed it. It does have a Celtic feel to it. I don't have anything of Mark Knoeffler (sp?), but saw him as support for Bob on one of his tours.

I have several Emmylou Harris albums and have seen her a few times. She can certainly do Celtic. You probably know this already, but if you don't, check out the Transatlantic Sessions on Youtube where country meets Celtic.

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Peter V

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Bill M

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Pat B

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Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the Byron Lee post. Although dismissed as too loungey it seems, he and the Dragonaires was big around here from the mid-'60s well into the '70s, touring through regularly and releasing a surprising number or albums. Most of the them were on the Transworld label - never Atlantic. One was called "Blast Off" I recall, and one was called "Reggay" (then a newish word with unfixed spelling). If you recall when we standing at the record show in Brighton a few years ago, perhaps admiring your newly bought US promo copy of Hawkins / Hawks "Bo Diddley" / "Who Do You Love", I got excited at one point when a rock steady record come over the PA and I nipped over to find out what it was. What it was was an early record by trumpeter / singer JoJo Bennett, who'd jumped ship from the Dragonaires in Toronto (in '67 or '68) to join a local group, the Cougars. The link is to a song he'd recorded with the Dragonaires not long before. By the late '70s he was leading the Satellites, a very successful - and still running - Toronto-based reggae group.

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Lisa

Bill, thank you for all the Scott Cushnie updates. So sad, and rather bizarre.

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Peter V

The other on replay has been "Jump Up" by Byron Lee. An unusual plunge into Caribbean music by Atlantic (of all labels) recorded in Jamaica in 1965, though the "Jump Up" rhythm is Trinidad. I found the LP recently … a big brass section, organ, three percussionists and NO guitar. I think several tracks are bass pedals on the organ too. It took me to back to Georgie Fame's "Rhythm & Blue Beat" EP from the same era. Georgie Fame's "Madness" is the track that named the two-tone band. Atlantic toyed with Jamaican music a bit in 1965, but I guess never had the local expertise and contacts of Island.

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Bill M

A place where you wouldn't normally find a former Hawk - Aerosmith's "Big Ten Inch Record". Scott Cushnie got this gig because producer Jack Douglas had played guitar is several bands and on several records with Scott in the US and Toronto between '67 and '71.

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Bill M

Subject: link to "Down In The Alley"

I like the accompanying photos, including some of Scott Cushnie in the '70s and the early '80s when he ran a fabulous group called Professor Piano and the Canadian Aces (who focused on music from the '40s - when they weren't called Professor Piano and the Rockin' Deltoids performing rockabilly from the '50s).

Cushnie had a long, spotty and interesting career with Ronnie Hawkins. In the winter of '59/'60 he was hired from the Suedes to replace Will 'Pop' Jones (and brought in Robbie Robertson soon after). In '64-'65 he returned to Hawkins to do A&R and run the Hawk publishing arm of Hawkins's new record label; he also sang lead, uncredited, on the Stratotones' first record for the label, produced Ronnie's first record for the label, and Robbie Lane's first record, and joined another of the label's groups, the Vendettas. And in '69 he returned to Hawkins to replace Richard Bell when Bell left for Janis Joplin's Full Tilt band. Hence his appearance on the Muscle Shoals album along with fellow-Hawk Richard 'King Biscuit Boy' Newell. (Then Hawk drummer Larry Atamanuik also accompanied Hawkins to the sessions in Alabama, but the producer wanted to go with his usual David Hood - Roger Hawkins rhythm team.)

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Norm

Subject: Straght Goods

Actually the truth is Paul Simon is a Hobbit! So you guys shouldn't be picking on him.

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Bill M

At this link you can hear Scott Cushnie playing with Ronnie Hawkins, with Duanne Allman and King Biscuit Boy tearing it up in the foreground. This, likely edited to some degree, was the B-side to Hawkins's minor 1970 hit, "Down In The Alley", on which Cushnie is more prominent.

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Bill M

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Norm

Subject: "Short People Got No Reason"

Does anyone remember that song from the late 70's? My younger brother Lorne played lead guitar with me for quite a while then. Like our father Lorne is 5'5". I'm just over 6'. If I walked over to Lorne's side of the stage to say something to him he would freak. Get on your own side, don't stand by me. He was real young then. He wore 3 or 4 inch lifts and was mad as hell about his height. Well that song came out, (it's probably on youtube. He said if you ever play that song I'm walking off the stage. One day while he was complaining, I said but you know Lorne the way you play and everything you do you are 10 feet tall in my eyes. Well he just about started to cry. Thanks Norm he says. Too many little guys just have that short man attitude that they hate every thing.

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brown eyed girl

Thank you Bill M.

"It was about that time — 1958 or so — that Cushnie met Robbie Robertson, a young guitarist playing guitar with Little Caesar and The Consuls.

"They came to a dance hall in Oakville. There was a big upright piano sitting by the stage. They played all these Chuck Berry songs and I knew all the piano parts by heart from the radio. So I went up, took the front off the upright, and played along with the band. I was 18 and Robbie was maybe 16."

After the show, Robertson and two other members of the band approached Cushnie, informed him that they were forming a new band and invited him to join on piano. Cushnie gave the band its name, The Suedes, as in Blue Suede Shoes.

Cushnie left to join Ronnie Hawkins and The Hawks. "I was the first Canadian in Ronnie's band," Cushnie says. "I played with him a few months, but I wasn't crazy about him.

"I brought Robbie into the band because he was my best friend. The bass player had stolen some money and they fired him out of the band. So I told Ronnie that he should get Robbie Robertson. Ronnie said, 'Does he play bass?' And I said, 'he can play anything.'"

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brown eyed girl

Thank you Peter. I was hoping that clip would be the one where Art did not rule out anything between him and Paul Simon.
My brother 5' 11' worked at a hotel where a lot of musicians hang out. He hung out with Tom Jones one day. Not sure how that transpired. He did tell me that he indeed wears lifts because of his height. Nothing wrong with that as we all have something we are not comfortable with and would change. The other day my new Naturopath was surprised that I am 5'4'' as she said I look taller. Maybe good posture? lol In the article about Paul and Art...Paul didn't like being a lot shorter than Art and Art didn't like that he was dependent on Paul for the songs. When I ran into Tom Wilson he looked shorter and much more approachable up close and personal. When I watch him perform he looks taller and quite intimidating. After the interview on TVO Ontario; not at all. :-D

Greg Brown...Anyone suggest which recording is worth buying/downloading? Thank you.

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Bill M

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Peter V

According to Wiki, Paul Simon is 5 foot 2 inches. Mrs V is 5 foot, a height I know well. I have seen Paul Simon enough standing against mics, Marshall stacks, other people, holding guitars etc. I would place him at 4 foot 10 inches maximum, probably 4 foot 9 inches. He is nowhere near 5 foot 2 inches.

Art Garfunkel looks a full foot taller. So if John D reckons he's 5 foot 8 inches, draw the conclusion.

I'm reminded of the Tom Jones show in 1968, where all the 5 foot 6 inch dancers on the previous show got replaced by a team of 5 foot dancers to make Tom look tall. I've stood next to him. On Wiki he claims to be 5 foot 9 inches. I am 6 foot 1 inches now, but 6 foot 2.5 inches then. I towered over him. 5 foot 4? Maybe 5 foot 5? Why do they lie?

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Bill M

Subject: Bonk's post re Scott Cushnie

Here's a link to the article mentioned in Bonk's post about the send ending to the life of Scott Cushnie, the musician who got Robbie Robertson into Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks.

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Peter V

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JOHN D

About 15 years ago Art came to town on a promotion tour. First I was surprised how short he was. Now when I say short, he was my height. About five foot eight. I guess watching him stand next to Paul, I now really know how short Paul was; or is. No big deal; but at the time I was surprised.

I have a ton of T shirts. I just threw one on that morning and after meeting him, I learnt something about him.

”So your tee shirt says New York; are you trying to impress me?” “Huh?” I said. Because he’s from New York I guess he thought I was trying to impress him. The radio station I was working for at the time was called CISS-FM, Toronto’s first New Country station. He asked me what he doing there guessing it was because of the format. I told him I didn’t know (I now getting a little miffed). “I guess it’s because your handlers brought you here.” Insert awkward silence. We then moved on to the interview and all went well. Hate it when your heroes disappoint. He might be a very nice guy; but not that day.

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Peter V

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Peter V

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brown eyed girl

Sunday Morning
Art Garfunkel on his voice linked.

Another video is not available here. Could you check it out Peter? Art Garfunkel on his teaming with Paul Simon | 0:37
In this web extra, singer Art Garfunkel reads a passage from his new memoir, "What Is It All but Luminous," in which he frames his historic partnership with singer-songwriter Paul Simon.

I made a mistake as the Art interview was on CBS Sunday Morning show not on 60 Minutes. I watch religiously thanks to bob wigo who pointed us in that direction many moons ago. Many thanks.

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Peter V

Thanks, BEG. Yes, that was the bit about Artie's saying his voice had recovered when it hadn’t. Wishful thinking, maybe. From my 2007 review of Art:

"Art Garfunkel doesn’t rock, as his onetime partner has said, but his voice is so sublime, it has healing qualities. We had dead centre front row seats for the show last night at Bournemouth Pavilion. Bizarrely, we had received a letter from the venue that morning (everyone did) reminding us that we MUST be seated before 7.30. Everyone was, and sat in silence for twenty minutes until it started, enlivened only by announcements that anyone wishing to go to the toilet must only do between songs. There were notices on the door saying “Loves, please do not open this door during the concert. It affects my concentration, Art.” So Art is a tad obsessive about a quiet seated audience- similar happened after the interval. They didn’t restart until every seat was taken in the sold-out theatre."

The notes were written by hand (presumably by Art), so obviously in the interval every one of them got purloined which should be predictable. He was extremely good though, and as we were dead centre front row, he seemed to fix on Mrs V's face (who is a very good attentive listener) and sang a couple straight to her.

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brown eyed girl

Tom Wilson Pays Homage to Hamilton's Musical History with New Mural

The mural's title, The Mystic Highway, is Wilson's term for Highway 6, a route he believes has possessed rich musical mojo.

"In Hamilton, we've looked to Buffalo and we've looked down the Mystic Highway for inspiration," he explained. "Highway 6 runs from Hamilton through Port Dover, to Turkey Point. It's where Robbie Robertson spent summers on the Six Nations. It's where Ronnie Hawkins fired his drunk bass player and hired a young Rick Danko. It's where Canadian rock and roll got to party at Summer Gardens in Port Dover with 12-inch hotdogs and Speedo bathing suits. It's where migrant workers from the islands meet Six Nations and Mohawks and tobacco fields and tourists come together and developed their own kind of gumbo."

I was so close to having a conversation with Tom Wilson. I ran into him at the headquarters for Canadian Music Week looking for info re Levon's Ain't In It For My Health. We said hello and then just as I was about to blah, blah, blah...His daughter called him and that was that. There is also a very informative and honest interview I saw on TVO not too long ago. I really like BARK as they are so different as individuals and as musicians. They never disappoint when you see them perform at various venues in town.

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brown eyed girl

'I was tired of the drama. I couldn’t trust Art any more. He let us all down': Paul Simon on the toxic truth behind his lifelong feud with Art Garfunkel
By ROBERT HILBURN
PUBLISHED: 17:04 EDT, 21 April 2018 | UPDATED: 10:20 EDT, 22 April 2018

Whenever Art's films come up I rarely see mention of one of my faves...Bad Timing (A Sexual Obsession). Recently on 60 Minutes Art didn't totally count out anything...Theresa Russel and Harvey Keitel in film who I really like in any film and really cool guitar riff is playing when Art and Theresa meet at a party. Maybe it was a cult film for some of us.

Other films recently seen that I really enjoyed. Here are my last 5. I love lists Dunc.
Crazy Rich Asians
A Star Is Born
The Wife
Fahrenheit 11/9
Whitney

I would like to see Colette and Three Identical Strangers.

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Norm

Subject: Nick Schilder & Simon Keizer

Peter have any of you guys heard these two young men sing? They have an acoustic accompaniment and they sing "Sounds of Silence, The Boxer and Cecelia" They do great justice to Simon and Garfunkel.

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Peter V

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Peter V

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John D

In hindsight I have to agree with Peter about the song itself. As Simon was near the end of the song I turned to my son and said, "that's a really, really hard song to sing." So maybe I should give Paul the benefit of the doubt; because the first song was really good.. It's a very hard song to sing; although Garfunkel is sure to sing it on his upcoming tour.

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Peter V

Nearly at the end. John Simon said this about "Jericho."

"Then Levon told me he had enough of playing with Rick's melodic bass playing and craved a steady, more conventional player. So Rob Leon, a Woodstock fixture, would play most of the bass parts on the album."

Looking at the sleeve notes, Rob Leon is credited with bass on Too Soon Gone, Amazon and Jericho. There are a lot of sitting-in guests on the album. From John Simon's note, you'd expect it to be Stuff You Gotta Watch, Same Thing and Blues Stay Away From Me, none of them interesting enough melodically for a bass player of Rick Danko's quality. Paul McCartney and Rick Danko were the two great melodic bass players. I noted Rick looking bored on the blues numbers on stage, and Levon used to play bass guitar on Crazy Mama live. 12 bars with a basic riff are hardly challenging. I also realized that Amazon, Too Soon Gone and Jericho were not performed live. Did Rob Leon play more than he was credited for? Or was John Simon overstating it with "most of the bass parts."?

It also reveals a rift over material and direction that I had long suspected, which is why Rick was doing his melodic material with Danko, Fjeld, Anderson rather than getting it on albums by the reunited Band. .

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Peter V

Subject: Paul Simon 2018

I've relinked my Hyde Park review. I'll cut and paste the bit on Bridge here:

On to the big one. Bridge Over Troubled Water. He said:

“This song felt as if it came through me, as if I was a conduit for it. Then I gave the song away and I seldom sung it after that, so I had a strange relationship to it as if it wasn’t my song, but tonight, on my final tour I’m going to reclaim my lost child.”

Slightly unfair to Art Garfunkel, though I know what he means. When you write something, sharing credit is hard. The most praised unit in our first textbook Streamline English pre-dated meeting my co-writer. I’d say only one word was changed from my original, and yet we were both praised equally for it. On the other hand, Artie’s soaring voice propelled Bridge Over Troubled Water to its status as one of the most popular songs of the century. It’s also untrue that Paul Simon hasn’t done it and rethought it himself, sometimes quite radically, as with the Jesse Dixon Singers on Live Rhymin’. However, nothing prepared me for this sublime treatment, in a lower key, but with a trumpet part that drew tears for its sheer beauty. END EXTRACT

He was indeed shaky on SNL, I agree. He was way better on "You Can't Run" because the arrangement with YMusic was worked up for the album. On Bridge he was trying to use YMusic and some of the band. Having seen him in the summer, it's not time to leave the ice (though he says he is). He is in way, way better voice than Bob Dylan was even 20 or 30 years ago. But "Bridge" is a swine to sing, and he did find it hard on that show. He has a huge repertoire. Maybe it's time to avoid it! He can still sing The Boxer brilliantly.

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John D

Paul Simon has said in the past that even though he wrote "Bridge" he really felt it was Artie's song; because of the way Art sang it. Last night proved it was Artie's song. It was a weak vocal from Simon and at times a little off pitch. It reminded me of a performance recently on TV from Tony Bennett; who I just adore; but at 92 Tony 's voice really didn't sound strong. However I just want to add that "Can't Run But"; from Simon sounded OK.

There's an expression in Canada. You'll see why. "A guy has to know when it's time to skate off the ice." I don't think I'm being harsh here. Gosh I'm such a Canadian. Always apologizing. :-)

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Norm

Subject: All the Road Running

Thank you Dunc. Very much enjoying Tony McManus. His playing style put me in mind of Marc Knofphler. That brought me to one of my most revered DVD's. All the Road Running with Emmylou Harris. There is a lot of Celtic music on that tour and I guess if I had to pick only one music to listen to it would be celtic. Perhaps it has to do with my grand father coming from Scotland on one side and my other grand fathers family coming from Wales.

I'd love to hear Tony play with Mark. If you chance to listen to "All the Road Running", a particular song, "I dug up a Diamond", Mark plays a Les Paul, as does Brian Bennett. The solo they play and harmonize guitars is chilling. I love it. Thanks for Tony, Dunc.

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brown eyed girl

...and brown eyed girl's fave cover would be by Jeff Buckley at 125 million.

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Peter V

Paul Simon, Can’t Run But. Vancouver is 6,687. SNL is 22,000. Then Bridge Over Troubled Water at Hyde Park (an audience cellphone) is just 1,462 views.

Admittedly Leonard Cohen Live in London for Hallelujah hits 122 million views. k.d. lang in Winnipeg 2005 has 18 million views. John Cale official video has 374,414 views.

I do wonder about small kids singing it in chorus - has anyone ever listened to the lyrics?

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brown eyed girl

October 14, 2018, 9:58 AM
Tina Turner on her voice, finding serenity, and losing a son

I saw her in NYC at Radio City Music Hall in 1993. Chris Isaak opened for her. I found her show too rehearsed. I know I can be a harsh critic. I do love listening to her nuggets of wisdom as in this interview just an hour ago.

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Dunc

Happy birthday, Jan. Great site.

I enjoyed the song very much Norm, which took me on Youtube into Dan Fogelberg 'Another Auld Lang Syne or similar title', - a good song, Harper Valley PTA, Ode to Billy Joe, Del McCourie Band playing 'For What It's Worth', John Denver and Mama Cass playing 'Leaving On A Jet lane', The Band playing 'Up On Cripple Creek' and finished with a 2012's version of 'The Weight' at The US Americana Awards. Well worth a google. Busy doing nothing. Thanks, Norm. Make sure you check out, Tony McManus, self taught from a humble background and now living in Canada.

Playing 'The Bunch' and enjoying it. Linda Peters (then named) new to me this summer is a really good singer, the Dundee horns are great. Roger Ball is called Roger Bell and there are three Dundee horns, Mogul Thrash gets a mention. It is what it is - a bunch of young musicians playing songs they revere. A sing along. Thanks, Peter and Bill.

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brown eyed girl

Thanks Peter but video is unavailable here. So I am posting his performance of Can't Run But from when he performed in Vancouver. I like the Orchestra. Sorry about sounding so dismissive in my last post but I expected a lot from Simon and I know how much you dig him. For some reason as soon as I heard him perform last night....For me to turn the channel right away....

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Peter V

Subject: Can't Run But

Can't Run But has the advantage of coming from the album (linked). This is the other one from SNL. BEG has linked Bridge for us.

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Peter V

It's the same backing from YMusic as Hyde Park. That's online too (audience shot). Hyde Park had the sense of place and huge audience. The arrangements with YMusic probably work best on less familiar songs as on "In The Blue Light" because we have fewer preconceptions. I think YMusic is a great move for him, in that it gives a subtle edge. On the other hand his voice is thinning - more apparently than at Hyde Park, but I guess he was warmed up there.

Art Garfunkel has just announced a 2019 UK tour. The recent Paul Simon bio says they fell out when Artie said he could still hit the notes for a tour and he couldn't. I saw Art Garfunkel on his last UK tour. This one isn't coming to my town or near. I'm in two minds.

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brown eyed girl

Peter and JD...When I saw Paul Simon on SNL last night I turned the channel right away. Anyway, I guess this was his second song last night which I missed.

Last 5 while on my way to Kleinberg's McMichael Art Gallery yesterday. I was sort of surprised...Now there is even a hip-hop exhibit.
Oh La De Da...The Staple Singers
Let's Do It Again...The Staple Singers...Sexy song for the gospel group.
I Still Belong To Jesus...Robert Randolph...Thank you Robbie for exposing him via your playlist to performing with him.
Sweet Angeline...Elvis Presley
Creep...TLC

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John D

Would love to read any comments; on Paul Simon; who appeared last night on SNL. I have my own thoughts; which I will share later. Thanks.

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Peter V

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Mr. Hoibergs BIG 6-0

I second to NORM's idea to a gathering at Mr. Hoibergs BIG 6-0 in Norway and this site's BIG 2-5. Maybe we could do what I have dreamed about since the year 2000: the gb community could "record" The Best Of The Very Best Of The Band. I promise to boil my blues harmonica in whiskey and marinate my banjo in cough medicine! - OK, it is easy for me to say. Only a few hours car drive on E6.

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Rod

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Norm

Subject: The Carpet Bagger Gome On

It always amazes me that every time some one writes a book they are compelled to tell us. "We have pictures and interviews NEVER SEEN BEFORE! I wonder when they are going to run out of things that have been digging into people's lives.

Of course the hard core fans will buy it because they are afraid they might miss something.

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jh

Subject: New TB book

Worth ordering a copy, I guess?

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Wallsend

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BONK

Sorry. National Post.

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BONK

It looks like the mystery to Scott's disappearance has been solved. I can't attach the article but it's online at the Toronto Sun. Very sad.

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Norm

Subject: Maybe this doesn't belong here.........but

I am greatly moved listening to Andrea Bocelli and Sarah Brightman sing "Time to Say Good Bye".

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Norm

Subject: Shit Disturber

Peter! Quit trying to intimidate yer host!

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Peter V

A year to go. When you get to the next one you will discover what we all discover at 60, but we all have to swear never to tell anyone who is younger. So I cant tell you but It is embarassing, awful and universal. Don’t worry about it for another year.

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Rod

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Lisa

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John D

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brown eyed girl

Healthy Happy Birthday to Jan the Man!

It is so good to see you Ray!!!!

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Mike Nomad

Best birthday wishes from the Great White North, at least before DJT deems otherwise.

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JQ

... but to call 59 getting old sort of hurts my feelings, and likely some more of the geezers here.

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Bill M

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Norm

Subject: Getting old

Have a good birthday Jan (yer just a kid yet :-). Do we have to come to Norway for the party next year?? I'm in!

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jh

...yours truly is celebrating his 59th today. With good friends, a big paella cooked up by the SO and lovely Spanish red wine flowing free. Next year this site will celebrate it's 25th...

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Norm

Subject: Two Things

Thanks for that pony song Bill! I love it. That's my kind of music. I woke up this morning at 5 o'clock with The Vogues "5 o'clock World" running thru' my head. Now I'm not sure if it is a pop song or rock. It's the last one I remember some one yodeling in.

Actually 3 things. Now Dunc, (and some of the rest of yuz) need to listen to what I said the other day because it seems you are wanting to listen to acoustic stuff. Johnathan McEuen and his son John playing Dan Fogelberg's old song "The Leader of the Band". It's a great song and they do a good job. LISTEN to it!

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ray mizumura

Subject: black Klansman

Peter -- Thank you for doing this review. I’ve been having a look at The Band guestbook again, too. Always a nice place to be–“oh, to be home again…” I wanted you to know that here at the University of Kansas, one of our top professors is Kevin Wilmott, a co-writer of the Lee film. He’s a superb director, too. Born and bred in Kansas–he’s still here, although I’m sure he has other opportunities. One day he's in Cannes, the next he's in Kansas.

Ron Stallworth visited the University of Kansas campus recently for some speaking and book signing activities.

Very nice to read you, Pat Brennan, Brown Eyed Girl, and all the fine Band people here. I may weigh in with a comment or two again soon...fair warning ;)

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Lisa

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Norm

Subject: The Good and the Sad

That's good John. I'm going to remember that! I used a wrong word. It's never pathetic. Some times it's sad. There have been times when Susie gets upset with herself for forgetting. She is one of these people who worries a lot.

So I hold her and reassure her, she's ok. She gets all panic stricken that she is getting alzhiemers. I say no you are not! We are just getting a little old, hell I forget lots. I tried to just joke once. I said well if you get alzheimers you only need to own one movie then.....I just about got beat up for that remark.

I notice Joan is posting on face book with some of the old gang like Jan and Deborah.

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Bill M

JQ: Glad you liked what you heard of Julian Fauth. You probably found this promo video for the "Everybody Ought to Treat a Stranger Right" album. The title song, which opens, has audible background vocal contributions from Terra Hazelton who BEG, Wittenstein and I (all at different tables) heard singing with Garth Hudson and Jeff Healey at Jeff's club many years ago, and from Julian's Electro-Fi label mate Harrison Kennedy, who'd been a member of the Chairmen of the Board in the '70s. (He sang lead on their second hit, "Chairman Of The Board").

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John D

Thank you Beg for posting that link. It is actually 5 decades. Yikes!!!

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Lisa

beg, I've been worried about Joan for quite a while now. I know her health was a problem and she was finding it harder and harder to post. I hope she's okay and at least is still able to read everything here.

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John D

About forgetting. You'll love this one Norm.

In 1995 Ronnie Hawkins and I were travelling to Arkansas. He told me we would make a stopover ; just outside of Nashville and spend a couple of days with one of his old guitar players. OK OK I'm getting to the point now.

We were having lunch and the guitar player says something to his Mom that he mentioned to her the day before. The Mother replies with I forgot. Mother it was only yesterday I told you that. Here it comes. The Mother looks at his and says quietly, "I know son; but I've slept since then." We all laughed pretty hard. I use that line all the time now and get a snicker; or two.

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JQ

PV - I’m really enjoying and learning from your film reviews. Oddly I know much less about that era than I know about the 30’s through film noir’s time into the early 50’s.

Bill M - Thanks loads for the intro to Julian Fauth. I’m just now going through his catalog and it seems right up my alley as far as my current tastes.

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Bill M

Peter V: Glad you posted about Bobbie Gentry, as it reminded me to post this link to a review of new documentary about the life of singer-songwriter Gene MacLellan. (Gentry to Glen Campbell to Anne Murray to "Snowbird", written by Gene.)

MacLellan is noteworthy for the GB crowd due to his early days as one of the three members of the Consuls (the others being Robbie Robertson and Peter Deremigis) who upon meeting pianist Scott Cushnie left the Consuls to form the Suedes in far-off 1959. And it was of course Cushnie who was first hired by Hawkins a few months later and who subsequently convinced Ronnie that Robbie would be fine choice to replace departed bassist James Evans.

The review doesn't mention Robbie, the Suedes or the Consuls, and it wouldn't surprise me if the film doesn't either. It certainly should, as Gene, who wrote, sang and played (once Robbie joined) rhythm guitar, was or felt pushed out in favour of bassist Pete Traynor and singer Johnny Rhythm (nee Rutter). Couldn't have help his self-worth.

I'll note that the 1970 hit version of MacLellan's other big song, "Put Your Hand In The Hand", was sung and played quite Bandishly by Ocean, whose album also included a cover of "The Stones I Throw".

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Peter V

After several days of Bobbie Gentry's box set, I'm enjoying it more and more. The 2nd disc "The delta Sweete" is a particular pleasure - in that Big Boss Man, Parchman Farm, The Seventh Son and Tobacco Road were all from my garage band days, but never like this. The bonus tracks are also worth having for a change.

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Bill M

Subject: trusting one's vehicle to know the way ...

Norm: Your little story reminds me of "I Hope My Pony Knows The Way Back Home" - see link. Note that this is not the Tom Waits song, but a song written by local guitarist Jay Danley and sung by Julian Fauth. Great song, magnificent album called "Everybody Ought to Treat a Stranger Right". In my books it's hard to go wrong with a Blind Willie Johnson reference.

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Dunc

Thanks for comments Bill M and Peter...am smiling. I have an image of Mel Gibson riding in circles on a white horse, sword in the air, face painted in blue and white emulsion, rallying the troops to 'Fight for breakfast'.

Last five played reflect recent postings in GB.

Paul Simon 'You're The One' - forgot about it - this album will receive more plays. 'Darling Lorraine' is really only song I know well.

Steely Dan 'Two Against Nature'. Never knew about this album until Toppermost, but I think it is brilliant. In addition to the clever lyrics, great production, and I could listen to the music alone.

John Martyn 'Bless The Weather' always playing it. Danny Thompson has a big influence and Richard Thompson plays on it.

Family 'Music In A Doll's House' Love this album - exciting and innovative, great musicianship, making full use of the instruments band members could play, for example the violin parts, but the production could be better, I think something to do with balance.

'The Best of Booker T and the MGs' - finally got it and now have got three important instrumentals in the history of British music.

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Norm

Subject: Getting Old!

It's some times pathetic........scarey, and pretty funny. At the breakfast table this morning.

Susan, "I have to leave on the 15th to go down island." (Her and her sister and their girl friend are going to their spa and get massages.). Me, "I know ya told me". Susan "Well.....when is my appointment with Andy?" Me "Who is Andy? what in hell are you talking about?" Susan "For putting my winter tires on!"

Jesus Christ, the man's name is Adam, Susan, I just told you yesterday. Your tires are in my truck. I'm taking them over to the shop this morning and your appointment is tomorrow at one o'clock. Seeing as today is the eleventh your appointment is the 12th, 3 days before you leave.

Susan "Well I can't remember time!" You also can't remember where yer going you get lost in a gawd damn parking lot! Do you even remember the way to Port Hardy? Susan..........Well....my car does. "Stop talking Susan, my head is starting to hurt!

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brown eyed girl

International Day Of The Girl!

Glad you are still posting Lisa. I have not heard from Joan in ages. We did chat while I was in NYC. I miss Serenity as well and all the other female posters as there is no balance in perspective and experiences anymore. Oh well. Happy Healthy International Day Of The Girl...All eye colours are equal. :-D

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Peter V

Subject: How I Won The War

I was saving the "How I Won The War" retrospective film review (linked) because I remember so many lines clearly. At the time it was advertised as a John Lennon film, but it wasn't really!

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brown eyed girl

May be old news but I could not scroll back almost two years. Hope this post is ok but I lost your email so here goes.
For JD...Congrats on your retirement this past summer?

John Donabie spent four decades in Canadian radio as a Toronto disc jockey, show host, intervewer and talk show host. It was great to see your daughter and grandchild here as well as I have met your son. We were in line to see Levon and Richard Bell at the Horseshoe. You sure interviewed many of the greats. We are fortunate to have you posting here with all of your experience and stories to share from the music biz. And yes you give good voice. :-D Please say hello to your partner. It was a pleasure to meet her outside of Hugh's Room. We were all there for Levon's Tribute.

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Bill M

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John D

As Erma released Piece of My Heart a year before Janis, It has always been my favourite. Also I think the definitive R&B version. It's interesting that Bert Berns wanted Van Morrison to record it; but he apparently declined.

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Peter V

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Bill M

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Peter V

I'm around The Electric Flag point in John Simon's book, but noted that he expressed admiration for Erma Franklin's "Piece of My Heart" - odd that he knew that, but not Otis Redding! He has some wry observations on "Cheap Thrills", an album with an iconic sleeve design, easily the best thing about it. It's one framed on my walls.

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Pat B

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John D

Peter thank you for responding. I guess my ears are still working; if your in agreement.

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Peter V

Subject: Ry Cooder version

The other great instrumental version.

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Peter V

Subject: Ike & Tina on TV

This is probably the original, then.

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Peter V

I purchased the Otis Rush on iTunes as soon as I’d heard a bit – beautiful playing, and it is indeed exactly the same song as It’s Gonna Work Out Fine by Ike & Tina Turner. A bit of Googling reveals that the Ike & Tina song was written by Rose Marie McCoy & Sylvia McKinney. McCoy was born in Arkansas in 1922, and wrote the song in 1961.

Otis Rush became known with “I Can’t Quit You” in 1956. He joined Vanguard Records in 1965, so if the recording is on Vanguard, it seems he was covering Ike and Tina’s million selling record on the Sue label. Who gets the writing credit, John D?

I loved the song and especially the Manfred Mann cover. A few years ago I saw Paul Jones duetting on it with P.P. Arnold.

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brown eyed girl

6:28....Robbie admits that FFFF hurt his feelings and then you will see a snippet of Levon in 1993....7:30 talking about Robbie with no FFFF insight.

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brown eyed girl

The Band, Cate Brothers and ZZ Top Nashville, Tennessee State Fairgrounds, September 25, 1976. Hmmm...You then go to ZZ Top Concert Archives and tour is not listed.

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John D

OK. Yesterday I am listening to Otis Rush; from that incredible Vanguard Blues Album called, Chicago The Blues Today Vol. 02. I'm listening to an instrumental called, "Everything's Going To Turn Out Alright." As I listen, I'm saying to myself, I've heard this before; but as a vocal. Eventually it hits me. "It's Going To Work Out Fine" by Ike and Tina Turner sounds exactly like Otis Rush's instrumental.

I'm hoping someone else can A-B these two pieces of music. I'm sure you'll agree they sound the same. Thanks for your time.

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brown eyed girl

Bill M is somewhere here with Robbie 2016.
"In celebration of his highly anticipated memoir Testimony, legendary songwriter and guitarist Robbie Robertson joins George Stroumboulopoulos for a unique onstage conversation about his life, music, and artistic influences both with The Band and as a solo artist, as well as his collaborations with award-winning musicians and filmmakers such as Ronnie Hawkins, Bob Dylan, and Martin Scorsese."

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brown eyed girl

Jan H. I found the magical door after all.
Here is Robbie, his good pal Heather Reisman and somewhere is brown eyed girl March 29, 2011.

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Wallsend

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Peter V

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

I really enjoyed Reckless Daughter Portrait of Joni Mitchell...David Yaffe. I also couldn't put down Heaven and Hell My Life In The Eagles (1974-2001)...Don Felder. I was really disappointed that The Eagles did not want him in the band in 2013 when I finally was able to see them perform. I am now reading Born To Run...Bruce Springsteen.

Joni Mitchell’s Openhearted Heroism
She made the best music of her generation by falling in love, over and over, while defending her sense of self.

By Dan Chiasson

Last 5 while on my way to free yoga class.
Maggie May...Rod the Mod...I saw him perform during Across The Atlantic tour in 1979. All I remember is that I was dumped right after the Concert. He was the only one I knew who saw The Band with Dylan in 1974. Timing is everything, isn't it?
The Pan Within Live...The Waterboys...copied from brother's CD.
Pardon...Robert Cray...Everytime I hear this song I see myself playing blues guitar with many cool licks while Levon is playing drums. Yes I have a great imagination!
Let's Do It Again...The Staple Singers...I feel blessed that I saw all of them at Harbourfront for free! Two other times I saw Mavis solo. Love her as many do!
Caravan...Van and The Band!

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Pat Brennan

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Peter V

I can see the Scottish people declining to vote for breakfast, if the choice is only porridge with salt on.

Now if the offer was avocado on sourdough with poached eggs, fresh tomato salsa and some pancetta they might get a "yes" vote.

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Peter V

Subject: BlacKkKlansman

Review of Spike Lee's BlacKkKlansman linked. What a film! What a soundtrack too!

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Bill M

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Dunc

Subject: Pissing with laughter

For Roger and Peter, others scroll past.

The portly, - I'll have a pudding - leader of the SNP - Ian Blackford, hypocritical in that he holds down second jobs, in addition to his role of MP, said at the SNP conference yesterday, after building up to a climax in his speech, 'The Scottish people did not vote for breakfast'...instead of Brexit.

Second time he has done it. Last time in the Commons a Tory replied, 'You haven't lost out on breakfast.'

Tears still rolling down my cheeks.

I nearly wrote 'Daniel Lorraine' in the previous post.

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Dunc

Subject: In The Blue Light

I'm really enjoying the new Paul Simon. If I was being honest, of the ten songs on it, only one would have been in my Toppermost.

In addition to 'One Man's Ceiling', I really enjoy 'Rene and Georgette Magritte with Their Dog After The War' and think 'Darling Lorraine' is a really good song.

I think Paul is wanting us to relook at some of his work again. I got into 'Hearts and Bones' because of Peter's praise for 'Rene and Georgette', but more importantly because of Roger, if I remember correctly(Hi Roger), saying it was his favourite Paul Simon album. I thought let's complete the Paul Simon collection. I also loved a huge Rene Magritte exhibition in Edinburgh, a city I love. I really like this album.

But four songs on the album come from 'You're The One', which I bought to be complete, but I've neglected this album. I'm returning to this album and really enjoying it.

I think the production of this album is really good. But I'm not an expert on production. I was skating on thin ice when I made those 'knowledgeable' statements on production when arguing with Peter last week. When a producer gets to the best six takes when recording, I wouldn't have a clue which one to select, although I can recognise turkeys.

There are only ten tracks, which I like, because less is more. I wouldn't have liked a set of out takes added on at the end.

So I think this album is a beautiful and different production of songs Paul feels his public has neglected.

Than you, Peter,for your regular reviews.

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brown eyed girl

For those who missed it the first time. Here is Robbie and Aaron Neville's cover of "Crazy Love" from the film Phenomenon.

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brown eyed girl

Hi Bill M...Gobble gobble. We never have turkey. My brother is a sommelier and gourmet cook so dinner is usually at his place. Music at his home was ethnic or dance....lol....At one point I was shocked whenI heard Sarah Mclaughlin. We do however have in common, Mink Deville, The Waterboys, Bob Marley. He is also the one who introduced me to Louuu and west coast US bands, etc.

Main article: Interracial marriage in the United States (Bob Marley always said that there is only one race...The human race.)
I was sloppy Bill M. It was in 1967 that ALL States honoured interracial marriages. This is why it was huge at Monterey to have an audience that was not only white or black. I had on VHS these concerts and as soon as Otis Redding got on stage he said to the audience, "This is the love crowd, right? We all love each other don't we?"

"U.S States, by the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws:
No laws passed
Repealed before 1887
Repealed between 1948 and 1967
Overturned on 12 June 1967

Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation laws unconstitutional, with many states choosing to legalize interracial marriage at much earlier dates."

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Bill M

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Peter V

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brown eyed girl

haso... :-D

Last Five via songs copied from CDS and/or downloads.
I Heard It Through The Grapevine...Gladys Knight And The Pips...Saw them at Ontario Place for 7.00?
Crazy Love...Robbie and Aaron Neville...Special duo covering another fave writer Van the Man. Robbie's guitar work is otherworldly and Aaron's angelic voice never disappoints.
The American In Me...Steve Forbert...Always comforting voice. I told him so when I met him at Hugh's Room. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (Reggae Version Unknown Artist)...Maybe I taped this from the radio while in Montego Bay in Jamaica as we were staying with family of my friends.
San Francisco...Scott McKenzie...Monterey Pop Festival Sunday June 18/67. Apparently Otis and others at this Summer Of Love Concert were performing for a "mixed" audience. It wasn't even until around this time that it was legal to marry in the States if you were in an interracial relationship.

Happy Healthy Thanksgiving...Give Thanks And Praises

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Peter V

Two odd ones. I found them secondhand, and listened through on vinyl and copied them for two astrologer friends.

John Dankworth - Zodiac Variations

Nat Adderly, Nick Holmes, Cannonball Adderly - Soul Zodiac.

The second is largely portentous and pretentious, but the John Dankworth has some really good moments, though he insisted that for each named track, the soloist (all jazz greats) had to be the right star sign.

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Peter V

Subject: Rollin' Down The Road

On amazon print on demand, I'll relink Rolling Down The Road which Dunc so kindly mentioned. There are three sample stories on there. You can find it on amazon.com and amazon.co.uk - probably everywhere. As I said, the local printing for each area really brings down costs. If you get to your local amazon, you should be able to look inside which shows the Velum layout system. There are about ten styles you can choose from when you proof them up for amazon.

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Dunc

Subject: Keeping Up

I have heard perhaps not listened to the following music over the weekend, through the vehicle of grandchildren - two teenagers and a five year old.

Magic - Rude'. I enjoy this song and really enjoy the brilliant guitar solo.

Calvin Harris, Dua Lipa 'One Kiss' - 378 million hits on Youtube. You can understand why Roses chocolates advertise before this song is played and why newspapers' advertising revenues are dowm.

My five year old grandson is constantly singing 'Shut Up and Dance with Me' by Walk The Moon. He flosses to it. Only 294 million hits on Youtube.

Music is alive and well.

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Dunc

Danny Thompson plays a significant part in my musical life, JQ. Check out the Transatlantic Sessions on Youtube, if you are not familiar with them.

I had never heard of 'The Bunch' before. That's a must for me. The Dundee Horns, Sandy Denny and a host of others I like on the same album. Thanks.

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Peter V

Because I use them too, I can tell from the paper and binding that the book is amazon print on demand. They now do this locally in a number of locations which reduces postage, plus amazon have their own system. As an author, you earn far more per copy from amazon than you would from a conventional publisher. I can buy also copies in bulk from amazon and sell them from my own site or via a bookstore, but actually it's not worth it. They can mail them (and package them) much more cheaply than I can, and the printing charge is the same either way. If you wanted to invest in over 1000 copies from a conventional printer, you'd get them cheaper per copy, but the amazon system really is the best of both worlds for the author with a small production run, especially if it's international in appeal.

I've done it both ways, and unless you want to spend lots of time standing in line at the post office, OR pay someone else 20% to warehouse and distribute and mail, amazon print on demand is the way to go. This year, one amazon print on demand book has been shortlisted for a major literary prize, so I'm told.

I don't know what software John used to submit it to amazon, but his paragraphing is a bit odd, with some indented for no reason. If you are planning on writing one yourself, fiction or non-fiction, there's a programme called Vellum which does the layout for you. Three of my seven books have been re-done using Vellum. It's much more elegant than using WORD files, which I did originally. You can either pay Vellum one book at a time, or buy unlimited use.

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Lisa

Anyway, sounds good!

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haso

Subject: J. Simon

Peter: is there any other info on your copy of John's memoir about imprint? Do we have any other choice other than A-zon? I e-mailed him from his website about the book and another question, but don't believe I've had any response. His website does appear to be quite inactive. Other than Garth writing, I've thought that J. Simon would be as interesting as anybody.

So nice to read your "bylines" again, Angelina.

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Pat B

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Pat B

So I'm reading a book on a really outside, intellectual, free jazz musician I used to listen to a long time ago named Anthony Braxton. Really weird music. The book has a series of interviews he did along with a description of a two week English tour in 1985. The author also interviews the accompanying female pianist who is a Cecil Taylor acolyte (another outside player) and asks her where she lives. She says Woodstock NY. The author asks if she knows The Band. She says yes, she has played with Richard Manuel. Both the author and she love the Band. Strange but heartening.

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JQ

This has been my favorite of RT’s since it came out in the aughts. He really doesn’t need a studio production to strut his stuff, with Danny Thompson & Michael Jerome, both brilliant here too.

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Peter V

Highly recommended … I haven't even got to The Band yet, but it's very enjoyable and insightful into music. I love the description of recording Broadway play soundtracks. Like George Martin, he had a thorough grounding in the "non-rock" side of recording first. I'd say a must-read. It looks self-published via amazon, as are my novels and he's holding a very low price for print copies (I know how much Amazon takes for the page length).

On production, the obituaries of Beatles engineer Geoff Emerick have been interesting too. Dunc mentioned his influence the other day.

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John D

Subject: If you knew Peggy Sue

The woman who inspired the song Peggy Sue has died at the age of 78.

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jh

When I was a teenager in the '70s here in Norway, central stimulants (amphetamine/phenmetrazine, or "high-school fat-girl diet pills" as Richard Manuel called them) were still available without prescription (or under the counter) at pharmacies in Southern Europe. This was when charter trips to Spain started taking off here in Scandinavia, so we had a steady inflow of the stuff, in particular the Spanish Bustaid pills that were immensely popular among speed-freaks. I've been told. This is the same stuff that fueled the Beatles in their early Hamburg days.

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brown eyed girl

"Pattie Boyd chats to Ronnie Wood about her photographs of The Beatles in India. They also talk about The Band, and going to The Last Waltz - where Ronnie was pulled from the audience to perform on stage for the finale."

Hi Dunc. I have been walking' about and listening to songs on my Nano in shuffle mode. I like being surprised as various genres pop up. Here are the last 5.

Rain Over Me Featuring Marc Anthony...Pitbull...Especially invigorating while taking a cab ride in Habana.
Stir It Up...Dianna King...Cool Runnings Soundtrack. Our Canadian John Candy was in film.
Cloudbusting...Kate Bush...Where are you?
I'm Scared...Canadian Burton Cummings...My mother enjoyed his greatest hits so I gave her the CD.
Wagon Wheel...Darius Rucker

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Jonathan Katz

Subject: Band reference

Sometimes you get surprised by a Band reference from what seems like out of nowhere. Two recent ones:

1. David Letterman's Netflix show with Jay-Z had an extended tangent on Shangri-La. [I may have posted this before.]

2. And just yesterday on the recent Netflix offering, "Norm Macdonald Has a Show" he interviewed Jane Fonda who talked about JRR and Levon. Seems she had a bit of a crush on Levon, but Robbie did not hold a candle to Tony Curtis. I nearly fell off my elliptical when this appeared on the teevee. Episode 5 has the content referred to above.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks

Thanks Jed, Bill M and Glenn.

The Tom Petty collection looks interesting, Glenn, but I don't know him well. I bought a double cd of his work back in the day because of the Traveling Wilburys and I really enjoy it.

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Dunc

Subject: Richard Thompson

I've been playing the Richard Thompson Acoustic Classics a lot, JQ.

I have the early classic Fairport Convention albums, but followed Sandy Denny when she went solo and lost touch with Fairport and Richard. This could maybe be explained by a lot of great similar type Scottish bands at the time.

After a Summer discussion on Richard Thompson on here, Peter (thanks) kindly sent me examples of his work. I loved it.

At the same time I noticed that the leading acoustic guitarist, Tony McManus holds acoustic guitar teaching weekends with Richard Thompson.

So I bought 'Acoustic Classics' by Richard Thompson a couple of weeks back. I absolutely love this album.

The songs are well crafted, full of imagery and thought, manifesting in great lyrics. I like his singing, Peter, but I didn't realise how outstanding a guitar player he was. I think as JQ was alluding to, this is a brilliant guitar album.

So I strongly recommend this album. It's a must have.

Then a coincidence. There is a great song on the album, 'Beeswing' where the writer meets a wild girl in the 'steamie in Cauldrum Street' in the sixties. The steamie is a public washhouse. I thought surely not the public washhouse I know in my home town. I've been in the pub in Caldrum Street several times. I googled and it is this steamie the song refers too. Another London Scot using his knowledge of Scotland.

Brilliant album. Buy it.

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Peter V

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Peter V

In some ways kids can revitalize the business … Shuggie Otis gave a massive lift to the Johnny Otis Show when I saw them in the early 70s, as did Michael Jackson to his brothers. The last Glen Campbell tour was with his kids backing him, but then no one else could have given him the care and attention in his condition. Amy Helm I believe had a major role in Levon doing Dirt Farmer and Electric Dirt.

Then there’s just wonderful family combinations. Eliza Carthy and her mother, Norma Waterson, springs to mind. I’m not sure which direction the nepotism would be on that one.

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Bill M

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Norm

Subject: Bennies and other addatives

You are right JQ. Benzadrine began in about the 1930's. Doctors started using then for different applications and one of the things they noticed right away is when patients were lethargic they used them to "perk them up".

I remember reading a book on Johnny Cash many years ago. Due to his work load he started in using them (just like truck drivers) to keep him awake. He got hooked into uppers so bad there were times when he needed sleep and had time he couldn't. He would go out in his jeep and just drive and drive, then get out and walk in the desert trying to stop buzzing.

It was long ago that long haul truckers started out with them. An example of how the truckers were is displayed in the movie "Hofa" with Jack Nicholson and Danny DeVito. Nicholson showed one time how Danny DeVito had his fingers all burned and scarred from holding a cigarette between his fingers to wake himself up when he was falling asleep. Very bad stuff those little pills.

I had friends who got heavy into coke. It wasn't to stay awake they got themselves all jacked up. Then thought they were really playing great music and they were gawd awful! I hate all that shit.

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Peter V

In the UK the "Mods" pills as in Quadrophenia were called "French blues" but I suspect they were the same as the "whites" Lowell George was writing about, which are the same as Elton John was also noting.

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Rod

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Jed

My comment was about musical nepotism not nepotism in general. You still may disagree but I felt the need to clarify. Thanks for your thoughts-I enjoyed reading your entire post.

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glenn t

I've been enjoying the Tom Petty: An American Treasure 4-cd set (nicely done box of alternate takes, live tracks, deep cuts); The Band: Islands; Gram Parsons: Anthology / Sacred Hearts & Fallen Angels (great, great stuff); Neil Young: Live at Massey Hall 1971 (a treat to hear these solo, acoustic versions); and Steve Winwood: Greatest Hits Live (disc 2).

Thanks to all for recent discussions. See - we can discuss and debate without getting nasty & personal! Keep it up, and keep it clean! Have a great weekend all.

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Bill M

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JQ

The whites where I was were small white pills with a scored cross; we also called them crossed whites. Some people used them continuously, others when they could find them or for a specific purpose like a long car trip or all night studying. I think they were Benzedrine and, unlike meth, I don’t believe they were home made. The arrival of cocaine in the early 70’s seemed to reduce the party popularity of whites. I think it was around the same time Valium replaced reds/barbiturates. Of course this is only what I’ve read..

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Dunc

Subject: Welcome

Welcome Wynndixie. Experts on this site will willingly answer your questions.

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Peter V

Chickasaw County Girl: Bobbie Gentry – Disc Six

Chickasaw County Girl: Bobbie Gentry – Disc Seven

Bigger – Sugarland

Blood Red Roses – Rod Stewart

Dancing Queen – Cher

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Peter V

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Peter V

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Norm

Subject: Seatrain - Willin

Peter I just gave that another listen and disliked it even more! That constant wah sound is impossible for me to listen to. I don't think those people even get what that song is. The tiredness of the road. Like Merle Haggard's "White Line Fever" (and that is the white line on the road) not what you villan's are thinking. That isn't a song that can be revved up like that.

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Bill M

I don't recall anyone talking about recording engineer Geoff Emerick's contributions to the sound of the Beatles on most of their classic albums, and now he has passed - see link.

FWiW, I've been mulling things over and concluded that "Across The Universe" is my favourite Beatles song.

Oh yes, can any of you think what Goose Creek Symphony number - a cover, it seems to me - would have received a lot of FM-radio play in the early '70s? I was thinking it might have been "Willin'", but it seems not.

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JQ

I’m a real fan of Teddy Thompson too. His singing range is limited but fine for the great songs he writes. PV - TT’s guitar chops are ok but rudimentary compared to his Pa. Dunc wrote he was listening to Richard’s Solo Acoustic album; I think if you give that a listen you’ll hear an incrediblely accomplished player.

Recents:

- The Essential Otis Rush

- Liam Clancy - The Dutchman - He’s such a great singer

- Rolling Stones - December’s Children - Fun nostalgia from a garden variety cover band, at that point at least.

- Commander Cody - Live in Austin 1974 - Heavy twang from Telecaster master Bill Kirchen

- Chris Smither - Train Home - He’s a good writer, clever too.

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Peter. I agree with a lot of the last post, but nepotism is wrong. Did not know about the last part related to the theatre. I reread 'Nation Shall Speak Unto Nation' recently and nearly mentioned it in my post. Maybe one day we 'll get that drink.

For other GBers 'Rolling Down The Road' is an excellent book by Peter, and the short stories stand alone, if you haven't read his other books. It is an excellent collection of stories. My favourite story is 'The Record Collector', which deserves published in Mojo or some other related magazine. Brilliant. And when I read 'The Folk Singer', I always think of Davey Graham, although he wasn't a folk singer. Buy it GBers.

Thanks, Jed, but I can't agree. Before I retired, a part of my job was to interview candidates for posts in schools throughout my local authority area. It was imperative that the interviews were fair and my job to ensure they were fair.

Thanks BEG. Nice to hear from you. Playing your own compilations nowadays on the MP3?

Nice to hear from you, Bob F. As we say in Scotland, stop spitting the dummies out the pram and come back and post. I'm playing the excellent 'Willow Springs' just now. It is a great album with great songs, great guitar, great musicianship and isn't the production great. And I've been playing the Waterboys on YouTube. I was playing Roseann last week, still love the last EP. Buy it folks if you don't have it. I actually wondered if money was plentiful, what one of our wonderful producers would do with the tracks on the EP. Get back here. Look how Peter and I have had an argument without falling out (Twinkle in my eye).

Away for a nap. I've been pumping weights this morning and enjoying (?) our new music as it shouts out the speakers and am babysitting tonight. But my next post is going to be very positive.

Thanks fellow GBers. I enjoy your posts.

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Norm

Subject: Uncovered "Covers"

Thanks for that Bill! I much enjoyed it. We seem to be on a trail of "Uncovered Covers". I'm sure many know Dan Fogelberg's beautiful song "The Leader of the Band." Well there is a youtube vid. of Johnathan McEuen of the Dirt Band, (he is playing mandolin) beside him his son John. Young John sings Leader of the Band. He does a pretty fine job. Got to be a great feeling for the old man. I know, I've stood with my son Craig playing beside me.

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Peter V

Subject: The Swimmer

I've linked the latest in my series of retrospective views of late 60s movies. This time Burt Lancaster in "The Swimmer" from 1968. These old movies are getting a surprising number of views, hence the link. Do comment over there if you want.

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Peter V

Dunc, we need to do this over a drink, but … See my BBC Interview story- it really was true until very recently, I agree. As I said, Mrs V found herself at a major drama audition “weekend” the only one with no connections. But that doesn’t mean those benefitting are not talented.

Nepotism isn’t an upper-middle class preserve– try getting a job as a Docker or Steel Worker via Trades Unions in the past (my uncles got jobs in the steel works because of their dad working there). That was true of Trades Unions in many countries. I would think Giles Martin said that with a self-deprecating smile on his face.

On the three I listed first, I’ve seen every Wainwright on stage at different times and Teddy Thompson. Rufus is a better singer and writer than either his dad or mum. Equally, Teddy Thompson has his dad’s guitar playing ability plus his mum’s singing ability … so he’s a better singer than Richard, and he’s a first rate songwriter too. Amy is a great singer and player. They’re all three as good as you get.

Actors I listed certainly got that first rung through connections, but British theatre is so incredibly competitive and so over-subscribed with talent, that the second rung has to be ability. If I look back at Royal Shakespeare or National Theatre reviews from five years ago, I won’t have seen 80% of the cast again since. If you’re as good as Phyllis Logan, who I saw just a few weeks ago in the play “Switzerland” - the second time I’ve seen her in two years – you will get there whatever.

Yes, we have a generation of privately-educated (even Etonian) stars in their thirties and forties, but if you look at the twenties age group, young white actors are disadvantaged because of heavy ethnic positive discrimination. Many theatres cast at Central London levels of balance (38% from ethnic groups) which are dramatically higher than the country as a whole. This is also true of drama schools admissions. Universities now ask for a lower admission grades from applicants from “poorer postcodes” to try and level the playing field.

With The Beatles, Dylan, and The Band, there’s also the huge matter of trust. Every time the Beatles archive tapes got dusted off, stuff leaked out. The same happened with the extended Basement Tapes at least twice, and listen to the Woodstock boot – that was not recorded in a field. That’s soundboard. I guess they need an extremely tight circle of trust, and that means “family” – and listening to Paul, I’m sure that circle of trust includes Giles Martin.

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Jed

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Dunc

Subject: Nepotism runs in families

I couldn't disagree with you more, Peter.

From a Guardian interview before Las Vegas opened, Giles Martin said, 'Nepotism should be alive and well in the music industry - and I'm trying to support it.' "You could argue that I've got the job because I'm George Martin's son, which is absolutely true, it really is. I'm being absolutely honest about it. But I'm proud of the job I've done."

I think the Seatrain version spoils a good song, not a great song. Seatrain are at best mediocre. I don't see how you can't see that. When does the Seatrain Las Vegas show open?

As for the list of artists you mention, who have famous fathers, I think many of them are just average...just, and wouldn't have got there if it wasn't for their fathers.

And I have no doubt that those actors got the breaks because of their parental connections. You are missing the glaring argument. The big debate in British acting is that because of austerity, actors are all coming from one class. How does a British working class actor get to the top now. The ones I have lived near are Brian Cox and Phyllis Logan...would they make it now?

John D - Sebastian getting the job because of his father is absolute nepotism. Glaring nepotism. I never bought it. So Giles Martin got the job because some of his old man's work rubbed off on him. Pathetic argument.

Now John, I don't know if you keep up with British broadcasting. One of the big radio jobs, Radio 2, is going to Zowie Ball. The present incumbent is paid 1.5 million pounds and has left because his salary has been disclosed. I find her tedious, but she got her start because her father was a mediocre children's presenter.

Class and nepotism are very much alive and well in the UK. We still have a section of the House of Lords, where Lords inherit their seats. Ridiculous.

The Beatles are about the Beatles, not George Martin, and certainly not Giles Martin.

Read the John Lennon letters.

The UK is a centre of excellence for record production from the sound engineering courses at universities to the end products. I listen to the music my seventeen year old granddaughters play in different genres and some of it is really excellent. There are many capable producers in the UK.

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Peter V

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Peter V

The Bunch – a great album. For Dunc, the Dundee Horns play on some tracks.

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Bill M

I get what Norm's saying about some of the version of "Willin'" - the singers seem too peppy in light of the lyrics. If lack of pep is the only criterion, then Gene Parsons and the Byrds win hands-down. And if you give it a handicap because it's an unfinished demo, then it might even win no matter what other criteria are thrown in. But overall I'm with Mrs V - Seatrain, and to tell you the truth, it's mainly because of the zip. For me, the Lowell George versions just drag and drag.

Norm: Apparently you don't care so much for the Ronstadt version for much the same reason I don't care for her cover of "When Will I Be Loved". Have you heard the stunning, and truly sad-sounding version by Sandy Denny and Linda about-to-be Thompson on the "Bunch" album? It's linked here.

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b.lee

Subject: nepotism or what's in a name...

Nicholas Cage nee Nicholas Coppola. Changed his name to avoid getting special treatment due to his famous uncle (and later cousin?).

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BONK

What time on Monday? I'm in Cordova Bay right now. About an hour away.

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Norm

Subject: Bonk

What de hell are you doing now? Where are you? I am coming down to Chemainus on Monday for a little business. How far way are you?

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John D

Bonk you can find it on Amazon.ca I got the Kindle edition.

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Joe Frey

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BONK

Where do I find John's book. I've looked everywhere.

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Joe Frey

Subject: John Simon - MFBP

I wonder what John Simon thinks of the remix. I am ambivalent about it. Some tracks seem to benefit from it and others I don't see the point other than increased volume (67 year old ears may be the culprit here, though).

Just finished John Simon"s book and enjoyed it quite a bit. His honesty about only writing about what he remembers and not inventing a story line was quite refreshing to me.

No mention of Stage Fright, which surprised me a bit. As a big Gil Evans fan, I did enjoy his stories about him.

I thought he was very fair about his representation of the strengths of each member of The Band.

For those not familiar with his records, I commend to you his first album, Journey (my favorite) and Harmony Farm. Still in heavy rotation at my house.

One last comment: John Simon and Allen Toussaint were the two producers whose records they produced, I would buy just on their names alone. Very few clinkers in that lot.

joe

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Peter V

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Lisa

"Her daddy was played by Levon Helm, one of the great, great musicians. He had never acted before and he was unbelievable! It was just, he was stunning!"

I also remember reading somewhere that when she first saw Levon in character, Loretta Lynn burst into tears, he was so like her dad.

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Peter V

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John D

Dunc. In your comments about Giles Martin and nepotism. Does that mean that letting Sebastian Robertson produce discs 3-4 of The Academy of Music mean the same thing; because Robbie is his Dad?

I'll be honest when the news came out that Sebastian was producing disc 3-4 I thought that perhaps this was indeed nepotism; because I had never heard of Sebastian producing anything at all.

Then I bought the package. It is my belief that Sebastian's production and mixes of those two disc were far superior. Sebastian proved himself. I'd like to see him take on more Band Classic albums; as Giles is doing now. Sorry I think when you sit beside a music genius like George Martin, a little has to rub off. I've interviewed Giles twice and he is one intelligent and masterful producer. Just my opinion. I wish Sebastian had something to do with MFSB at 50. Clearmountain's is just a little too brittle & perfect for me. That said, time to read to John Simon's book.

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Jed

I was surprised as well,Peter,thinking there might be bonus tracks or some sound alteration. Just more of the same-must have a great booklet!

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John D

I'm suddenly getting a warning; when opening this site that it is not secure. Anyone else getting this warning?

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Peter V

Just received an ad for the "Beggar's Banquet" box set. Nothing much at all- original vinyl, plus a 12" one-sided single of Sympathy for the Devil and a Japanese flexi disc of Mick Jagger on the phone commenting. No temptation to buy it all all.

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Peter V

I agree that the Johnny Darrell has the phrasing all over the place and is too "country." I love Seatrain's version with Richard Greene on violin. The second Little Feat version is obviously the ultimate (though Mrs V prefers Seatrain, which I think we bought first). I thought The Byrds version was a bit weak.

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Norm

Subject: Gregg Allman & Jackson Browne

Thanks for that Jed. You are absolutely right. I had forgotten about that.

There is also a youtube vid of Jackson Browne with a group called "Lucius" beautiful dobro really haunting and sad and of course Jackson sings the song right. Just great! It is at a Linda Ronstad tribute.

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wynndixie

Hey y'all, have recently jumped on The Band-wagon (where have I been for the past fifty years?!?). Already appreciating the knowledge and civility here...so please forgive me if I ask questions about the boys that are probably as worn out as the grooves on your 'Brown' album

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Jed

Gregg Allman covers it sweetly on his final album,Southern Blood.

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Norm

Subject: Willin

Those are both pretty awful versions of that song Peter. Linda Ronstad's isn't bad, Steve Earl does a cover, (not great). The arrangement to listen to is the Byrds. Gene Parsons sings that song great! The way it should be sung and arranged with the desperation and tiredness of the guy it's about. Those other covers are bouncy, jangley covers that do the song no justice.

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Peter V

Subject: Johnny Darrell

This was the first version released of "Willin'. According to YouTube, Clarence White played guitar.

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Peter V

Subject: Seatrain

Have a listen to "I'm Willin'" As we found out a few months ago, this was the second version released, and actually pre-dates the first of the two Little Feat versions, even though it's Lowell George's song and written while in the Mothers of Invention. The first version ever released was by Johnny Darrell on "California Stop-Over."

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Peter V

Dunc, what is nepotism, what is inherited ability, what is environment?

Look at the number of musicians who had musicians in the family. Elvis Costello’s dad in a dance band, Paul McCartney’s dad playing pub piano. Then Hank Williams Jnr and Hank Williams III. Or take Randy Newman’s family. Whitney Houston was the daughter of Cissy Houston as well as the cousin of Dionne and Dee Dee Warwick. Or siblings who can both play … Ray and Dave Davies, The Everlys, Aretha and Erma Franklin, Paul McCartney & Mike McGear, Mark and David Knopfler. The list could go on and on. I think musical ability is hereditary. It works with maths too – I was always terrible, but my father-in-law was brilliant, as was my daughter’s father-in-law. All my kids and grandkids have excelled at maths, and it’s definitely NOT from my side of the family. Add languages … families where the parents are bilingual or trilingual produce kids who are good at languages.

Then apart from genes, you grow up in a nurturing environment for music. Amy Helm, Rufus Wainwright (and family) and Teddy Thompson spring to mind where BOTH parents were singers. That has to rub off on you. Norah Jones? Jakob Dylan? Harper Simon? Zak Starkey? Sebastian Robertson? Julian Lennon? In some cases, I suspect the family background hampered rather than accelerated careers.

Move on to actors. Mrs V pointed out that when she went on a drama audition weekend age 18, she was the only one there who had no actors or directors in the family. So yes, that’s partly nepotism, but growing up in a theatrical family will gift confidence in public. If I think of theatre, I recall stellar performances from Freddie Fox (son of Edward), Samuel West (son of Timothy West and Prunella Scales), Joely Richardson (daughter of Tony Richardson & Vanessa Redgrave), Rory Kinnear (son of Roy Kinnear). We worked with Cathryn Harrison, daughter of Noel Harrison who was in turn the son of Rex Harrison. These are dynasties.

So yes, having a famous parent might help you onto the first rung of the ladder. As they used to say about classical Hollywood studios “The Son-in-law Also Rises.” But you won’t get beyond that first rung without genuine talent. The Beatles and EMI have no reason to gift a job to Giles Martin. They know lots of people (and their own relatives) they could favour instead. As the other two who saw “Love” added, he helped create an amazing musical experience, and went on to Sgt Pepper. I reckon the White Album will be good.

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Dunc

Still not convinced at all. I don't buy into that crap about George Martin being the fifth Beatle. Absolute rubbish. It's the Beatles who wrote the songs. He helped technically, but in my opinion he took too much credit...far too much.

As John said, Of course, "George Martin was a great help in translating our music technically when we needed it, but for the cameraman to take credit from the director is a bit too much. I'd like to hear what the producer of John Cage's 'Fontana Mix' would say about that... Don't be so paranoid, George, we still love you," ended the main part of the note, signed by John (and Yoko who was there)."

What about 'Seatrain'? Dreadful crap. Will we be getting a remastered release of their greatest hits?.

I saw several shows in Las Vegas. Every show was to the highest standard of performance. It's got to be.

And Giles Martin is not George Martin. He got the gig because of nepotism. Many producers would be capable of doing what he has done.

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JQ

Hi Bob - Good to see you in again, thanks for that. Maybe reconsider, a bit of time under the belt can sometimes take the heat out of a controversy while still making your point. The head count is high quality but fewer in number these days. C’mon back mate -

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Bob F

Subject: PSB When Will This Dance End

Peter Stone Brown performing "When Will This Dance End" 9/30/18 at The Locks in Philadelphia.

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Norm

Subject: Ovations

I meant to comment. You notice how most guys who play acoustic guitars on stage put those plugs in the holes in the guitar otherwise they feed back. That is not necessary with Ovations because of the placement of those pickups. My Adamma, like Glen Campbell always played have the small holes above and below the neck with a great sound. As well with the fiberglass back they stay in tune much better. I recall years ago the sound man at the JR Country Club in Vancouver told my brother I love that Ovation of Norm's on stage it comes out with a great sound and is very easy to EQ.

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Norm

Subject: Tobias

Hi John. On some of the songs I notice he is playing a Tobias. However on others it's different. The Tobias has very long prominent horns and big black pickups. The one I'm talking about doesn't have horns. The lower part of the body at the neck just slopes away toward the tail and you can't see the pickups.

As a matter of fact Lindsey plays a guitar that looks to be the same make at one point and the same kind of blonde (sort of orange colour). On his guitar you can't notice pickups either. I'm wondering if they are something like my Ovations. The pickups are called "black dots" they are mounted in the bridge right under each string.

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John D

Subject: Norm

Norm this will make it easier. I saw another bass that looked very much like the one I mentioned in earlier post; but here is a John McVie smorgasbord of basses.

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John D

Norm it’s either a Tobias Classic or....sorry on iPad and will be back with another post.

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Norm

Subject: John McVie's bass

I'm tired of writing "Rockin Chair"! to hell with it.

I need a little help here! On the youtube video of Fleetwood Mac's "Dance" tour of '97, John McVie is playing this bass. (Particularly on the vid of "Say that you Love me"). I'm trying to see what kind of bass that is. You can't see any pickups on the front. He has great lines and great sound on that song. I've looked up all his bass instruments on line but can't find it.

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brown eyed girl

The Blood On The Tracks Project

"In 2004 David Spelman was hired to curate and produce The Blood On The Tracks Project, a concert celebrating the 30th anniversary of Bob Dylan's landmark album Blood On The Tracks. The sold-out event took place at New York City's Merkin Concert Hall and was broadcast live on WFUV and later as a two-hour radio special, syndicated to over fifty NPR affiliates.

A distinctive roster of singer-songwriters, bands and instrumentalists performed their own arrangements of the album’s ten songs, as well as instrumental interludes. Featured artists included Joan Osborne, Citizen Cope, Jesse Harris, Vernon Reid, Chocolate Genius, Toshi Reagon, Alex de Grassi, Ollabelle, Jeffrey Gaines, Brandon Ross, Richard Barone, Tony Visconti, Joel Harrison, and Buddy Cage.

Crabby and I met Buddy Cage's partner Leslie at the time before the show. I wish I could remember which one of the other artists she was really interested in seeing. It was maybe Vernon Reid or......lol.

Anyway, here is Ollabelle's performance that night of "You're A Big Girl Now". Amy Helm was great as always!

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brown eyed girl

Music video by Bob Dylan performing If You See Her Say Hello (Take 1) (Lyric Video). (C) 2018 Columbia Records, a division of Sony Music Entertainment

I see a lot of people
As I make the rounds
And I hear her name here and there
As I go from town to town
And I've never gotten used to it
I've just learned to turn it off
Either I'm too sensitive
Or else I'm gettin' soft

Wallsend...Sorry I forgot to respond to your post last week. It took me a long time to finish reading Robbie's memoir. I was surprised as same thing happened with Dylan's Chronicles. I expected so much. I did however appreciate reading about his Jewish relatives and his storytelling here. I am looking forward to his stories from 1976 to present.

Dunc...Last five songs as I rarely listen to complete recordings these days.
Cruise (Remix featuring Nelly)...Florida Georgia Line
Girl Of The North Country...The Waterboys
Old Habits Die Hard...Dave Stewart and Mick Jagger
Soldier...Damien
Tupelo Honey/Why Must I Always Explain (Live 1991)...Van and Dylan

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John D

My wife and I have seen it twice at The Mirage. I couldn't believe how really, really magnificent it is. Even; after going a second time. It's a "must" if your ever going to Las Vegas. Giles Martin. Tops in my book! Also don't have to much to drink; before the show (and I mean water or anything) because there are no bathroom breaks. :-)

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Peter V

I keep getting amazon adverts for the 6 CD box set of Blood On The Tracks. I don't like the format as you get multiple versions of the same song one after the other. I AM interested in the multiple versions, but I'd also like someone to have selected the best take of each New York session and assembled it as one coherent album on one of the discs. Nine versions of You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go, one after the other, is Clinton Heylin / Obsessive area rather than something to sit and listen to.

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Peter V

Have a listen to John Lennon interviewed on George Martin in 1975, with Bob Harris (Linked). As the notes below say, it's one of John's fairer and more balanced comments. I think what he says is fair … they taught George Martin about rock and roll, but it was a two-way thing and he taught them a great deal too.

In the early 70s, my old friend, the late John Wetton, played bass guitar on many George Martin "pop" sessions, and said it was a privilege to be asked because you knew you'd be with the very best players … such as Clem Cattini on drums and Chris Spedding on guitar. He had nothing but praise for George Martin as a producer and as a person.

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Dunc

Never knew that Bill M. I still play the Cream classics. Just too much music.

Thanks Rockin' Chair. Never knew that you had a link to whaling. The book is still in print and I'll pick it up. Queue of books just now and I'm interested in John Simon's. Do I buy it, Pat? I enjoyed Robbie's book.

Spinning discs is obsolete, Rockin Chair. I was outside a club in Glasgow when a bus pulling a massive trailer from Germany pulled up. The DJ and his roadies moved some amount of gear into the club.

Not convinced. I always think about what John Lennon thought about George Martin.

New Paul Simon is on just now. I'm enjoying it. It's good when the original writer redoes songs. And relevant.

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Peter V

Las Vegas – we found it a good entry point to the western USA. I hate doing a 10 or 11 hour flight and getting straight in a rental car. In Las Vegas the airport’s right at the end of the strip, and you don’t need a car while you’re there … a very short taxi ride. Like Orlando (but unlike the big cities), the immigration guys are polite and “tourist friendly.” So we found you could book two or three nights cheaply, take in two Cirque du Soleil shows (O and Ka are also brilliant) and of course exposure to daylight and sun is the best way to get rid of jet lag – it resets the body clock. Lots of sun in Las Vegas. So then a short taxi ride back to the airport after a couple of nights sleep, and pick up a rental car – and you’re already out of town.

The first time, we stayed at the Venetian then newly opened. The check in guy said to Mrs V “I love your accent so much that I’m upgrading you to a suite.” She thanked him profusely, and he said, “I gotta hear that again! So I’m upgrading you again to a bigger suite!” We had two bathrooms, one either side of the bed (As I said in my review, Las Vegas caters for bed companions who don’t know each other well enough to share a bathroom) and a further toilet in the living room and about four TVs. She said she knew all those drama speech classes would come in useful one day.

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glenn t

I agree with PV about Giles and the LOVE show in Lost Wages. I've seen it twice! It has to be experienced to be believed; it's in the round, so there's action everywhere: scenes pop up from beneath, folks flying and climbing from up above, dancers, acrobats, and actors, footage projected on screens and walls, and speakers in every seat to deliver the best sound. And the music! My goodness, it's all glorious and exhilirating. Expensive, but worth it. I'd see it again if the opportunity presents itself. LOVE it!

And like PV, I've never spent a dime gambling. Just took in the show, had a nice meal, and split.

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Pat B

I finished the John Simon book which is required reading although I wish it were three times as long. His analysis of the fued is spot on as is his description (as he saw it) of the relation of each member to the whole. If I read it right, the songs recorded for BP in NY were done in one night which is mind-blowing. The arc of his career pre-Band really sets an interesting stage for his work with the group. He's also a very funny guy.

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Peter V

Subject: The Beatles "Love"

Review of the "Love" Las Vegas show. Do not judge Giles Martin if you haven't see it!

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JQ

Westcoaster- LB learned to play from John Stewart (Kingston Trio and solo). I don’t know if it was personal lessons. They both started on banjo, used the same electric guitar brand and that banjo finger/claw style to play. I’m a big fan too.

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Carrying On

Thanks Bill. I listened to that Hans Staymer pretty different. The particular Fleetwood Mac performance, (I wish I had been there) was 1997, called "The Dance". When they play "Say that you love me", all five are lined up across the stage. Mic is playing an arrangement on his drums with no kick. Christine of course sings the song. (as well as being beautiful she is a dynamite singer). Lynsay's style on that banjo as well as picking solo plays that claw hammer style of a rythmn strum thru the verses that sounds great.

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Rockin Banjo

Don't forget Bill. The original Eagles "Take It Easy" Bernie Leadon finished it with banjo.

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Peter V

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Bill M

Peter V: if you meant that Giles Martin did a better job producing a remastered classic than Bob Clearmountain did, then I'm inclined to believe you (though I've heard neither). But not if you mean that George M did a better job of producing the original than did John Simon.

Dunc: Glad you liked the Mountain song, and you wrer right in thinking in atypical of their output. It was sung by their bassist, Felix Pappalardi, who'd most famously produced Cream. When he left Mountain, his place was taken by a talented Scot named Jack Bruce. The new lineup, redubbed West, Bruce and Laing who did a couple of albums before becoming, I believe, a law firm. Corky Laing, by the way, is from Montreal, but is of Scottish ancestry - plus he had Levon helm write the forward to his autobiography / memoire.

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Whaling & Spinning Discs

Dunc I don't know if you recall way back some where I mentioned my Great Grand Dad, (who was born in London), ran away to sea on a whaler at the age of twelve. He spent his younger years whaling. He became a journalist and author of 40 some books. One that may interest you is called "The Cruise of The Cachalot". I expect you know cachalot is the French word for a sperm whale. My youngest daughter has always been fascinated by his books and collects them. One very interesting one she has is called "Deep Sea Plunderings". Short stories that are true accounts of piracy.

Funny that you use the term "spinning discs". I wonder how long it has been since any DJs actually did that?

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John D

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Dunc

Couldn't agree more, Bill.

Played 'Nantucket Sleighride'. I don't know Mountain, but enjoyed the track. Not what I expected - very different from what I thought it would be. The whaling song I know is 'The Balaena', which I used to hear back in the days when folk was hip. I find it disappointing that a lot of these Scottish songs will be lost because folk is not so important now. It's all about DJs spinning discs now.

Thanks, Bill

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Wallsend

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Peter V

Norm mentioned the way songs suddenly crop up in your head. I woke up in the night with Sugar Magnolia playing in my head. Went back to sleep, and in the morning I woke up and it started running again. You do think "Where did that come from?" I have heard "American Beauty" in the last two weeks … we were discussing "Ripple" here, and I put it on for a car journey. But that was several days ago.

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Peter V

Bill, I thought you were dissing the famous guitars whose factory apparently appears in "The Weight." I have heard many people doing the same … Judy Collins explains her tuning time on stage as her love of the Martin sound in spite of their inability to hold tuning on a hot spotlit stage, and I spent a pleasant morning with a guitarist friend who uses a Martin for studio work, but was looking for an early 1960s Gibson acoustic for stage work because Martins required too much tuning between songs.

If you doubt the genius of the "Beatle" Martins (father and son) listen to "Love" - better still go and see the show in Las Vegas in surround sound. I took out the Sgt Pepper remixes to compare to MFBP remixes. There's no question as to the better producer.

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Music......and.......MORE MUSIC!!!!!

Thanks Bill. I tried to find that on youtube, but couldn't.

I have been trying to come up with 5 gang, sorry. I have been listening to so much stuff it's hard.

Many times lately I am drawn to Fleetwood Mac. I think Lindsay Buckingham is so underrated. He is a terrific singer and his style on guitar and banjo are unequalled. In "Say That You Love Me" his banjo picking (using a banjo for a rock song) is very impressive.

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Bill M

A great 20th-century whaling song is "Nantucket Sleighride" by Mountain.

Rockin C: Crowbar's last (minor) hit was a cover of "Hey Baby" in the mid '70s. Lots of links to Hawkins and our guys.

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Hey Baby!

By the way Peter. It was Delbert McClinton playing the harp on that song with Bruce.

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Pat B

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Peter V

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Dunc

Grace was only written in 1985 and is about a true tale related to the Easter Uprising of 1916. A little controversial up here as Celtic fans sing it at their matches, which is where Rod Stewart heard it. He plays too much to the Celtic crowd for me now - showbiz. I still play the white double collection of Rod Stewart and the Faces, which was released quite a few years ago.

Red Rose is the mark made by the harpooon when it pierces the whale. I've heard it a few times a long time ago. I come from the home of Scottish whaling and some of my forebears were whalers. Rod Stewart on The One Show said it was Ewan McColl who told him about it.

I'll not buy the new White album pack. It smells of nepotism and class to me. Every time the rich, privileged boy needs some money he uses Daddy and returns to the Beatles. Nepotism and class still present in this country. I think returning to the Beatles' work makes the Martins seem bigger than they are in the story.

On my record collecting day on Friday I bought

Steely Dan - Two Against Nature

Paul Simon - In The Blue Light

Richard Thompson - Acoustic Classics

Booker T and the MGs - Stax Classics.

Football day Saturday and babysitting yesterday, so listening today. Really pleased so far.

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Jon Lyness

Subject: Garth & Maud show

A real interesting Garth & Maud show coming up, this time performing live soundtracks to films... Kingston, NY on October 28th. Try brownpapertickets dot com, type Garth's name and the event should come up.

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Peter V

Only one listen through so far, but the new Rod Stewart, Blood Red Roses, is very good indeed. The title track is raucous Bellowhead style English folk! But there's a lot of variety. Farewell is very moving. Also the old Irish rebel song Grace.

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JQ

Subject: Brett Kavanaugh/Pulp Fiction

Oh dear...

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Peter V

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Rockin Chair

Subject: Crazy Chester

Hey John. Don't know if you found this or not. This radio hour was created by Andreas Werner, began fall of 2017. It is streaming on various sites. It sure is cool.

The emojie, I gues I did the colon, hyphon, back bracket and it must show up to you as an emojie. I don't know man! I'm too old and ignorant to figure any of this stuff out.

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