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The Band Guestbook, September 2019


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John D

Web: My link

Subject: Fats Domino Yet another Bear Family Box.

So I already have the 8 CD Bear Family box set of Fats. They are now offering a 13 disc plus Book. This will include the ABC-Paramount recordings. The cost is $245.70 Canadian on Amazon. But..............I feel I just have to have it. I met Fats. Got to tell him what he meant to me. A very nice man. Anyway being released in November. Always been a fan since the beginning. Oh yes one of the discs is a DVD from Fats biographer Rick Coleman


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: we all need someone we can lean on

Peter V: A nice snapshot in time. And all three possess a fair amount of MFBP DNA.

"The Weight" looms large - not just on those albums but right up to the modern era. Just last night I wandered into the living room as a documentary was being watched. It was about someone in the Maritimes who'd suffered some traumatic event (car accident maybe?) and lost virtually all memories of the past, the exception being his favourite songs. When his family visited him in hospital, he didn't remember them, or even himself, but he did sing along with the take-a-load-off chorus of "The Weight" when if came over the hospital PA.


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Posted by:

Peter V

This is already in one of my articles. A few days before Christmas 1969. Standing outside HMV in Oxford Stret, London. Just three album displays in the window: Abbey Road, The Band, and Let It Bleed. That's an astonishing set of three. The Band's best album. The Rolling Stones best album (no question of that for me). Side 2 of Abbey Road competes with best side of a Beatles LP with side 2 of the US Magical Mystery Tour LP … the singles. Strawberry Fields, Penny Lane, Hello Goodbye, All You Need Is Love, Baby You're A Rich Man.

All in that one window in December 1969.


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Posted by:

Peter V

You must have looked the same time as I did, John D. In the morning amazon.co.uk didn't have it. In the evening they did.


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John D

Subject: Brown Album Found It.

Release date here November 15th.


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Posted by:

Peter V

This is true of all the box sets coming out by everyone. They tend to include vinyl which ups the price and looks great … BUT these are all massively reworked in the digital domain. It then figures that the Blu-Ray or high end CD will be the ultimate version. The magic of vinyl was that in some way that a wave form went from tape to vinyl without being broken into lots of tiny bits. But once it has all become digital, putting it back on vinyl is a bit odd.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There was an article in Rolling Stone about the 50th anniversary reissue of the Brown album including the Woodstock performance. If you do a google search it should come up. It is due for release in mid November. I don't have any high expectations for the bonus tracks. First of all, they weren't a jam band and, secondly, I think they scraped the bottom of the barrel when they did the cd reissues in the early 2000s.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Woodstock

Wallsend writes, "John, I assume that the version of Woodstock being released with the Brown album is the same as the one on the recent 36 cd set of the whole festival rather than the grey market version which is available now."

Wallsend is their a new version of the Brown Album; with Woodstock tracks? I went to Amazon and I don't see one released lately. Maybe you can point me in the right direction. Thank you.


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Posted by:

Dave H

Subject: Rag Mama Rag outtake

Also, giving the drums a cut-time feel on the released version of Rag Mama Rag turned out to be a better approach than they had in the outtake. More energy to the track that way.

Still, Garth is such a master that any chance to hear him spotlighted like this is precious.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Sound

Thanx Peter. I agree with your choice, but she sure is beautiful on that stage as well.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Rag Mama Rag

Actually, I'm not over-impressed with the unreleased Rag Mama Rag. The piano intro, which must be Garth, must have been a deliberate effort to re-create a Chest Fever intro, but it doesn't really fit. It's much less raucous, and the vocal sounds tired … exhausted even. The piano running through, obviously Garth again is marvellous. But the final version got it right.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Carla Cooke

There are three versions on YouTube, two live.I've posted the track alone with orchestra because it sounded best to me, but if you want to see her singing it, check out the live versions.

A Change Is Gonna Come is one of those impossible choices, Otis Redding or Sam Cooke? I'm usually for Otis. The Band do it very well … but they don't compete with Otis or Sam.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Carla Cooke

Just had a wonderful experience. Listened to Carla Cooke, Sam Cooke's daughter sing, "A Change is Goin' Come". I doubt you will ever hear a more beautiful voice. If you have a minute Peter put it up here.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Since my musical ability is just about zero I cannot really justify spending a lot of money on a mandolin. A Pacific Rim one would suit me fine. I was looking at the Eastman MD 515 which sells for about $1400 in Australia.

If they are going to do flashy reissues to commemorate Stage Fright, Cohoots etc, I hope they also match them up with live recordings.


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Posted by:

Rod

Enjoying the new Rag Mama Rag release - even if the intro piano seems from somewhere else. Looking forward to hearing the other unreleased out takes.

Wallsend, in NZ mandolins start from about $500 (pretty cheap) and head up to $2000 for a good Pacific Rim one. I have an 1980s Washburn (Japan) that has an amazing sound and a 2000s electric Fender which is OK. Maybe worth looking at 2nd hand ones. The washburn is in need of refretting but I have guitars of the same age that still have good frets. So that maybe something to bare in mind.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I thought even the boots of the Woodstock performance sounded great so I am really looking forward to the new release. On an unrelated issue, I am just tossing up whether I should buy a mandolin. When you look at these instruments, the more expensive they get the nicer they are. It is hard to settle for a cheaper one when you have seen the really nice ones. Of course I am just talking about the bottom end of the range not the $12,000 vintage Gibsons.


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Posted by:

Peter V

The Woodstock 50th official release exceeds even the best boots, and I had three. It is unbelievable that they did not think it good enough. It is superb.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Offhand I believe there was a low frequency pirate radio outfit present at Woodstock but I doubt they had a mix feed to broadcast. A month ago, a Philly station broadcast the whole thing in real time on the 50th including the full audio from all the breaks between acts. I believe they used the recent Rhino release for the music but someone with access to the main mix must have taped the entire thing from beginning to end.

The Band's show has been floating around forever, and some recent boots sound much better than the first I heard.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

John, I assume that the version of Woodstock being released with the Brown album is the same as the one on the recent 36 cd set of the whole festival rather than the grey market version which is available now.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: The Band Woodstock Album

Just saw this mini review; which is enlightening. "It escaped me until I got the CD that this is a live broadcast not the original tapes from the concert. So we have mono sound that is muffled." So there you go. I think I'll still buy it. I had no idea that Woodstock was broadcast live in any way at all.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: The Band Woodstock Album

On sale here on it's own for $18.95 on Amazon.ca


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Dag. Really good. That was the first song I ever heard from the Band, and I bought the single 49 years ago. Love the piano and Levon’s Southern drawl.

Thanks, Glenn. Really looking forward to the release. The Woodstock set is brilliant.

I’m like you Joe - all CDs, but still actively collecting. This has been a good week for me. In addition to Robbie’s album, this week I bought the remastered Tug of War, the last Lucinda Williams and last week I completed the Tom Waits studio albums. I ditched some greatest hits, which I had bought as samplers. Really enjoying the collection.

A great week for the Band, Wallsend. I took your advice and don’t buy everything. I stream new music on Prime.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

This is turning out to be a great year for Band fans. The playing for change video is close to two million views. I know this is nothing compared to what really popular videos get but it is still bringing the Band's music to a new generation. Looking forward to hearing a cleaned up version of the Woodstock performance.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Brown

Dag - Thanks for that, it’s great. I’m not normally one for re issues but given this is likely my favorite record of ever I suppose I should come off the dime. Can’t wait!


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Posted by:

Dag B.

Web: My link

Subject: Rag Mama Rag (Alternate Version)

From the 50th anniversary set.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: The Band 50th

I am glad to see that the two CD version has all the music that the super deluxe version has. Having paired down to just listening to CDs, I have no need for the vinyl, although the blue ray would have been nice. joe


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Brown 50th

Thanks, Glenn. No sign of it on amazon.co.uk (yet). I've had a lot of hassle ordering from the USA. Either they don't make a customs declaration and it gets sent back to America (Rhino don't seem to know there are other countries in the world), or they do put a declaration then it gets stopped at customs and we have to pay tax (OK) but plus a £25 clearance fee from the courier company.

I thought they'd put the Woodstock set out.

I ordered the complete Abbey Road 50th from amazon, and it said "delivered on day of release" which is today. Even though I have PRIME it hasn't even been dispatched yet … just tracked it.

The moral is SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL RECORD STORE.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: The Brown album

That info was copied from the listing for the super deluxe vinyl version and includes the booklet. The listing for the 2CD version doesn't mention the booklet, but includes the original album plus the thirteen bonus tracks and the Woodstock live tracks.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: The Brown Album 50th release info

From The Band Official Store site: In celebration of the 50th Anniversary of The Band’s sophomore album, The Band a limited edition Super Deluxe version will be released on November 15th, 2019. The Super Deluxe package features a new stereo mix of the album by Bob Clearmountain from the original analog masters. The package also features the previously unreleased complete “Live At Woodstock” performance from 1969,Classic Albums: The Band documentary, and thirteen bonus tracks. Bonus tracks include six previously unreleased outtakes and alternate versions. The exclusive book features a new essay by Anthony DeCurtis and classic photos by Elliott Landy. The new stereo mix is also cut at 45RPM and available on 180-Gram 2LP alongside a reproduction of The Band’s 1969 7-inch vinyl single for "Rag Mama Rag" (b/w “The Unfaithful Servant”). Lastly, there is a 5.1 surround mix and 96/24 high res audio on Blu-Ray.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Playing for Change

Thanks for that Peter. The first one you put up was Roger Ridley (now deceased). He was one of the main inspirations for Mark Johnson's concept when he was actually on the sidewalk playing for change. That motivated the playing for change (changing the world with music).

Some of the videos have children with wonderful voices participating from the music schools Mark and his people have created. It is what motivated me to join the movement quite awhile back. That new Dock of the Bay video I can't stop playing.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: Freebird!

Peter V: There's nothing wrong with revisiting your greatest hits.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Wrong One

Sorry wrong one. That was the 2011. They have redone it. Link to the new one.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Dock of The Bay

Thanks, Norm. Hadn't seen it. It's linked now. One of the earliest Playing For Change recordings. 79 MILLION YouTube views!


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest a whole lot west of Saskatoon

Subject: Playing for Change

I'm wondering if any of yuz has seen the newest cover of "Sittin on the Dock of the Bay"? 50th anniversary of Otis song.

Pretty much all black folks doing this work. Just the most awesome work all around including Otis sons I guess. One young lady in California on a dock singing with the water behind her. She is so beautiful it hurts!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Downton Abbey film

While I spare you my many theatre reviews, there is sometimes interest from here on the film ones. Link to my review of Downton Abbey.


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Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Solomon. I’ve been playing a lot of John Martyn and came across this again. Looking forward to the biography of Levon, Wallsend. In his dealings with John Martyn, Levon comes across as generous. From Chicago 1992.

‘Martyn makes a couple of rare appearances this weekend in Chicago. That’s how he wound up recording last week with ex-Band drummer Levon Helm, another long time fan, in Studio Five of the Chicago Recording Co. on the Near North Side.

It was one of those moments: Helm and Martyn covered the Utah Phillips balled Rock, Salt and Nails, the only non-Martyn composition for an upcoming album. Martyn stood and sang soulful scats with his eyes closed. Helm sat on a stool across from Martyn, and rocked back and forth, tapping his foot and delivering a Delta drawl between long drags from a cigarette.

Originally a temperate ballad, Rock, Salt and Nails was spiced up with a snarly Memphis groove that featured Helm on drums. Producer Jim Tullio smiled: he knew he had a moment. The most remarkable thing about Rock, Salt and Nails is how Martyn’s and Helm’s totally distinct voices tie the song together. Martyn’s gliding slur takes on the ethereal tone of another instrument.

“I’ve never sung a word in my life,” Martyn said in a midnight conversation with Helm after the session. “I’ve always looked at lyric as a gate to the vocals. It wasn’t until the last five years that someone even told me I should enunciate better.” Peering out from under his trademark baseball cap, Helm laughed and said, “You never saw a lyric you couldn’t stretch, right?” Martyn responded, “That’s exactly it. It’s all music. Harmony and music is more interesting to me than lyric.

Marty met Helm in 1969 through bass player Harvey Brooks. Martyn and his former wife had travelled to Woodstock, N.Y., because they were influenced by the Band’s breakthrough Music From The Big Pink album. Last week Helm flew out from his home in Woodstock to spend two days recording with Martyn at the Chicago Recording Co. Besides Rock, Salt and Nails, Helm appears on a Martyn vocal trade off tune called Just Now.

Helm said, “I grew up in Arkansas right on the river, so the way John voices music really hits home with me. It reminds me of all my heroes, It sounds like John Martyn, but at the same time I hear everybody from Muddy Waters to, Otis Redding. I can even hear Bill Monroe in there.”

Martyn, who listened to Chess Records imports as a 14 year old, returned the compliment. “I loved Levon’s drumming, singing and his playing,” he said. “Also, he was the first one to ever show me a watermelon. I had never seen a watermelon, before. Me and my young wife were very innocent. Levon was the first piece of American truth I had seen walk through the door. He was friendly sweet and decent.” Dave Hoekstra Chicago Sun-Times 17 December 1992


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Robert Hunter

Wow. Sorry to hear about Robert Hunter. Great songwriter. Master of creating a timeless feel with only a few lines. So many of his songs feel like they should be a sepia-toned Ken Burns film. And lest you think Jerry's passing left him high and dry, check out the albums Headed For The Hills and Patchwork River by and co-written with Jim Lauderdale. (Yes I've mentioned these before. There is a third one but I can't think of it right now.) The former contains some songs that are classic Hunter, including Sandy Ford (Barbara Lee), Trashcan Tomcat and the title song. The latter ain't bad, neither. Both are in the satchel and we'll give them a spin today.

And speaking of Dead connections and Ken Burns, the last installment of Ken's Country Music series about the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band and Will the Circle Be Unbroken had a few glimpses of the late great fiddler Vassar Clemens who figures prominently in the one-off Hillbilly Jazz album (with David Bromberg, among others) and of course, Old and In the Way with Garcia. Having already been familiar with most of the old guard present and with the Dirt Band, at the time I did not think of it (Circle) as quite the watershed moment it was presented as in the film. All depends on your POV, I suppose...


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Posted by:

Rod

Sort of enjoying Sinematic but it is growing on me. These days I do find his song structures - especially the 8 line verses - a bit predictable. I wish he'd used a few more guest vocalists to break things up a bit.Still listening on Spotify. Will buy it when I see it in the shops.


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Posted by:

Dave H

Robert Hunter was a great songwriter with, of course, many Band connections. He often acknowledged the influence of the first two Band albums on the Grateful Dead's "Americana" phase of Workingman's Dead and American Beauty. His lyrics to the Grateful Dead song "Might As Well" celebrated the 1970 Festival Express train tour of Canada that the Band and Dead both participated in. And he and Jerry Garcia are the only songwriters whose songs were recorded by three members of the Band: Levon covered "Tennessee Jed," Rick covered "Ripple," and Garth covered "Dark Star."


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Robert Hunter

There is a fountain that was not made by hands of man .

Come see Uncle John’s Band ...

Wonderful lyrics that stick with me forever. RIP


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Laura Satterfield

She's on most tracks on "Music From The Native Americans" and other bits by Robbie. My favourite track on Sinematic.


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Posted by:

Jed

Subject: Robert Hunter-RIP

One of the great writers of our time. His lyrics will live on in song forever.


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Posted by:

Crazy Chester

Location: Texas

"The Playing for Change video has well over a million views already (although admittedly quite a number of those are mine). I am not a big fan of Robbie's solo work. Seeing him play guitar on The Weight makes me wish he would do more guitar oriented material but I guess he just doesn't want to" Agreed.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

"Acclaimed Biographer Sandra Tooze goes backstage with The Band

Levon Helm: From Down in the Delta to the Birth of The Band and Beyond

In a tour de force encore to her biography of blues legend Muddy Waters, Sandra Tooze returns with the first in-depth biography of legendary drummer and singer Levon Helm of The Band fame.

Featuring hundreds of hours of exclusive interviews with the major figures from Helm's life, including friends, family, fellow musicians and stars, Levon Helm: From Down in the Delta to the Birth of The Band and Beyond is an objective, balanced portrayal of The Band like it's never been seen before."


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Posted by:

Dunc

Sorry, ‘Satterfield’. New name to me.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

The war is the feud. I also think the use of North and South related to Robbie and Levon, Canada and USA and The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.

I also think Van Morrison’s contribution is very good - at his best.

Laura Setterfield is great too on the brilliant ‘Walk In Beauty Way’ when dueting with Robbie. Robbie is gracious in giving her the lead. Robbie’s guitar is hauntingly beautiful on this track. I have never heard of her.

Great album.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: mud or blood, war or waltz

OK, Robbie talks about losing their way "after the war / waltz" ; but that's along with …we lost our connection, after the encore, curtains coming down, the band played dixie. If it is "war" then that's simply Robbie's word for the "feud." The end of the Vietnam war makes absolutely no sense in the context in spite of the one line "North and South" which you might stretch to Vietnam, but surely refers to Canada / USA or Robbie and Levon or The confederates versus the union.

The song is about The Band for a movie about the Band. Any tale about Vietnam is, sorry, total bullshit, even if the songwriter said it. Maybe he listened back and thought, that was a bit too clear and decided to see how gullible interviewers are.He found out they were.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I made a trip into Glasgow to Fopp to buy Sinematic today. I have played it twice. It is brilliant and the album’s name reflects the songs brilliantly.

The songs’ stories are cinematic, and interesting layers of sound rise and fall throughout the songs. Instruments interact with each other, and interact with voices brilliantly. In addition, there are really interesting interjections of musical phrases of voices and instruments, with some really interesting tones and sounds. This all comes together seamlessly.

I enjoy Howie B’s programming, the album is beautifully produced and the sound quality is outstanding. It must have taken ages to make.

It is now over 49 years since I bought my first Band record. It was innovative, and Robbie remains innovative to this day, even after all those years.

They have been playing it in Fopp, and the staff on the desk both remarked on how much they liked Robbie’s singing.

Five star review from me. Brilliant.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronna

Wallsend: Interesting about the upcoming Levon biography. The author, Sandra Tooze - who used to be a Torontonian and maybe still is - wrote what was I believe the first Muddy Waters biography what seems like ages ago. It did okay at first, but was soon eclipsed by another Muddy biography, which is now what you see on bookstore shelves here.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

If you check out the Pryor Centre for Arkansas Oral and Visual History website they have some interesting stuff including stuff on Levon's family background.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Seemingly there is a new book coming out on Levon by Sandra Tooze: Levon Helm: From Down in the Delta to the Birth of The Band and Beyond Hardcover – June 2, 2020


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Posted by:

Ray Mizumura

Location: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country

Subject: Praying for Rain

Consider the lyrics of this song, perhaps my favorite on Sinematic, in relation to the powerful stand and message delivered by Greta Thunberg at the United Nations.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link

Peter, without going back and listening to it again, I'm pretty sure that Robbie specifically references Vietnam as the war in the lyrics. I know this interview covers a lot of familiar territory but I thought it was a pretty good one, a little different from most.


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: 2019 Americana Music Award Winners

Instrumentalist of the Year – Chris Eldridge (Punch Brothers)

Emerging Act of the Year – The War and Treaty

Song of the Year – “Summer’s End,” John Prine, (by Pat McLaughlin and John Prine)

Duo/Group of the Year – “I’m With Her”

Artist of the Year- Brandi Carlile

Album of the Year – The Tree of Forgiveness – John Prine

Lifetime President’s Award – Felice & Boudleaux Bryant

Lifetime Achievement for Songwriting – Elvis Costello

Lifetime Legacy of Americana Award – Rhiannon Giddens & Frank Johnson

Lifetime Achievement for Performance – Delbert McClinton

Lifetime Trailblazer Award- Maria Muldaur

Lifetime Inspiration Award – Mavis Staples

Thanks Dunc - I added the Classic Scottish Albums by Davy Scott Podcast. AWB and John Martyn really are world class.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Me too. Though not quite as much as Dunc. ;)


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Ray. Really looking forward to hearing the album.


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Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Ray. Really looking forward to hearing the album.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Once Were Brothers

I can’t see why “war” would refer to Vietnam – four Canadians, and Levon had escaped the draft years earlier. I’m pretty sure the first time it’s “after the Waltz” and possibly enigma (Waltz / war) on the repeat was deliberate … Robbie once railed against printing lyrics and pointed out the joys of trying to puzzle them out. After the (Last) Waltz makes perfect sense.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Ray, meant to say, thanks for the nice review of Sinematic.

To your Best of 2019 seventh-decade list you should add Mavis Staples’ TWO new releases this year (though she’s now turned 80!)... and, I’m hoping, the new Van Morrison next month as well.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I don't think Robbie 'won' the 'feud'. Whenever his name is mentioned online heaps of trolls post hate about him. The whole thing has just dragged The Band and their music through the mud. It would have been better if Levon had sued rather than made the allegations in a book.


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Posted by:

Ray Mizumura

Location: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country

Subject: Sinematic

The more I listen to Sinematic, the more I am impressed and moved by the album as a whole. "Praying For Rain." Robbie Robertson is rejuvenated on this record. It forms a strong companion piece to Redboy, which is my favorite of his solo records.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronto

Peter V: Disappointing to see those lines. A) They're not very good. B) They're not at all helpful to his 'cause'. Robbie's already won, and his lead will increase for as long as he stays above ground and keeps his nose clean.

At a mini-conference last week, in a board room that coincidentally overlooked the part of King Street that hosted the film festival that OWB opened, I was chatting with the 25-year-old next to me. She was really into music, she said, but drew a blank when I mentioned the Band, Levon Helm, and Robbie Robertson. But the lights went on when I mentioned the "Take a load off Fanny" song. Therefore, my advice to Robbie, if he wants to be remembered when today's 25-year-olds rule the world, is to re-record "The Weight" and other big Band songs, doing all the lead vocals himself, of course. After all, radio is now more likely to play Robbie's solo version of "Must Be Christmas Must Be Tonight" that the superlative and superior original version with Rick singing lead (AND playing tear-inducing bass).


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Posted by:

Ray Mizumura

Location: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country

Subject: Bruce "King" Steen

Not that he checks in here, but I'm sure I'm not alone in richly enjoying the glorious career of Bruce Springsteen, seventy years young today.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

On a related note, when I first watched the Playing for Change video, it included a dedication to the guys in the Band. When I watched it later it had gone. I thought I must have just imagined this but I see in the comments section somebody else mentions this. There is still the dedication in the text below the video but the one that was in the actual video has been removed for some reason.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I would have thought to have a 'feud' you would need to have two people that want to fight. I got the impression Robbie was never all that interested in pursing this. I guess now that he is getting older he is becoming more reflective as we all are.


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Posted by:

Stan L

Location: Toronto

Subject: OWB

Peter, I heard an interview with RR in which he said that the war in question was the Vietnam war i.e. 1975.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Once Were Brothers

Bits of lyric …

We lost our connection after the Waltz …

We lost our way after the Waltz (or is now "war")?

We already had love, between the north and south

Then we heard all the lies, coming out of your mouth …

Is Robbie still maintaining he never heard about the "feud"?


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Posted by:

Peter V

I was away for a couple of days, but got Sinematic in Exeter's HMV, a wonderful store. They had CD and vinyl and I bought both, figuring (correctly) that the LP set would come with the paintings at full 12" size but I would want to put the songs on my iTunes Playlists right away without recording the LP and I'd want the CD in the car. The cover sticker notes Once Were Brothers from the film by "Robbie Robertson and The Band."

Will Walk in Beauty Way is with Laura Satterfield and Jim Wilson (with Pino Palladino on bass, as on most of the album). It takes me right back to Music From The Native Americans. The duet with Laura Satterfield works SO well … I'm almost thinking back to Peter Gabriel duetting with Kate Bush. Heshould have had her on every track for me.

Note that Jim Keltner drums on Once were Brothers and rememberance. The latter has Derek Trucks on slide guitar and Doyle Bramhall II on guitar too. And yes to Bill M, Felicity Williams sings backing vocal on most.

My delay in not listening in the car is because we ae totally locked into the new Margaret Atwood, The testaments, on audio book in the car.


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Posted by:

Ray Mizumura

Location: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country

Subject: Sinematic

I hadn't expected Robbie to do another album after Clairvoyant because he's not been prolific in the studio since the late 1970s. Thirteen years separated Redboy and Clairvoyant. So, finding out that I was wrong was a pleasant surprise.

When listening to the new record I put Testimony out of my mind, along with The Irishman, Once Were Brothers, and other projects and controversies and contexts. My goal was to hear it simply as music. On that basis, Sinematic has been enjoyable.

The record is more consistent than its predecessor, which didn't strike me as a unified work along the lines of Storyville and Redboy. On most of the songs here, Robbie is the sole guitarist, but he continues to keep his profile low in that respect. Creating a distinctive, sinuous sound that acts as an umbrella for the compositions is the goal. The production is the star here, but the lyrics appeal to me more and more as I listen--often witty, breathing new life into what would otherwise sound like cliches.

At this point, the individual songs that stand out for me are "Hardwired," "Street Serenade," and "Praying for Rain." "Shanghai Blues" and "The Shadow" do some nice cultural-historical work. The least memorable, for me, is "Once Were Brothers," mainly because it doesn't feel like it fits in with the rest of the album.

With Sinematic and Springsteen's "Western Stars," I can call 2019 a terrific year for music by artists who continue to make a positive difference in their seventh decades.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Web: My link

The link is to Nova Scotia-based guitarist-singer Afie Jurvanen (aka Bahamas) talking about playing on Robbie' Robertson's new album. Seems likely that he came to Robbie's attention by way of his effective cover of "Christmas Must Be Tonight". The latter's on YouTube, credited to Bahamas. I take it that the little bits of high background voice are by his musical partner Felicity Williams, who must be on "Sinematic".


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Posted by:

Wallsend

The Playing for Change video has well over a million views already (although admittedly quite a number of those are mine). I am not a big fan of Robbie's solo work. Seeing him play guitar on The Weight makes me wish he would do more guitar oriented material but I guess he just doesn't want to. I see the next Dylan bootleg will feature the Johnny Cash sessions and out takes from John Wesley Harding and Nashville Skyline. Should be great.


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

I think Robbie’s solo albums are innovative and very good. Really looking forward to the new release.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Marcus King Band

One more note. Marcus King, the boy who sings the first verse of "The Weight" on that new video. Well I was impressed with him so I looked him up.

Well shit! If you haven't heard this boy and his band, listen to his song "Side Door". He has obviously absorbed a lot of BB King into that 335 of his. BB would sit up and take notice. His singing and his band are incredible. I expect we'll hear a lot more of this boy.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: John Donabe

John, not to take anything away from Sebastian Robertson. You should, (if you haven't) read about Mark Johnson who was the leading founder of "Playing For Change".

His concept of changing the world through bringing people together from all over the world with music. The equipment he uses and what he does with the money was what motivated me to join the Playing for change movement a few years ago.

One of my all time favourites is Guantanamera. The playing and singing is amazing. 75 Cuban people all over the world joining in. A violin orchestra of young ladies. People in the streets, one young guy with a brake drum off a car and a piece of steel for percussion. The sound Mark creates and the rythmn of that song are perfect.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: Sinematic

Rolling Stone has posted its review. 3 and 1/2 stars.


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Posted by:

Ethan

Subject: Sinematic

Ray : Just had my first listen and it sounds as bad as all his other solo albums. I can count maybe six songs Robbie has done over the years that I like and this album hasn't changed that opinion.

I do love the playing for change version of The Weight!


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Posted by:

Wallsend

It is interesting to see how many of the reviews of OWB are located in a discourse based on Levon's allegations. I guess this is not surprising since they are written by people who only have a superficial understanding of the topic.


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Posted by:

Ray Mizumura

Location: Lawrence, Kansas/the heartland/flyover country

Subject: Sinematic

Hi everyone--

I have a copy of Sinematic and am through with my first hearing.

In the next day or so, I'll send some commentary.

Peace, everyone.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Location: Tronno
Web: My link

Here's a link to a local newspaper (non) review of "Once Were Brothers". Three out of four stars, though there's precious little to show that the writer actually saw the film. But we saw that here too, though from the one-star crowd. Anyway, the actual newspaper version says the film opened today at a regular theatre downtown - appropriately, the Cineplex at Yonge and Dundas, the throbbing heart of the Hawks' old stomping grounds.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

OK, I’ll bite. What is the story there?


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Posted by:

Pat B

Blew the first meeting? You are being kind.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: Comments

I always take the time to look at the comments on these videos. In such a short time I don't recall ever seeing so many comments and so positive adds to the good job that is done.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Garth Brooks

Didn't he try to get the 90s Band signed to his management and promoted? It was said Levon and Rick blew the first meeting.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

If you search on Youtube for 'The Weight (A Thank You)' there is another really cool version of this song.


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Posted by:

Norm J

Location: Pacific Northwest

Subject: The Amazing Contrast

Hi Bill. Thanks for the nod. Your comment is food for thought.

I have just spent a while laying back in my chair at my desk listening to this work of art that Sebastian has engineered. I'm sure all would agree. It needs to be listened to many times because there is so much to grasp.

For example, Lukas Nelson, Willie's boy sings his verse so beautifully but the few licks he puts in place sound like they came from his father's hands. There is many examples here to give. These people are so wonderful.

What Mark Johnson has accomplished since he walked along a street in Santa Monica and heard Roger Ridley playing for change on that street has become the greatest movement this world has seen.

What I mean by "contrast" is, we watch on the news these CRAZY FUCKED UP POLITICIANS! Trying to blow each other up from a maniac president of the USA, to a murderous idiot in Saudi Arabia and Iran. It is so hard to make sense of this planet now.

When you lay back and listen and watch these people with this music and how we should get along.........how do you figure it out?


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: The Weight/Playing For Change

Wow, sounds GREAT!


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Playing For Change

Once again we see the incredible talent of Sebastian Robertson in producing this piece. I have enjoyed the Playing For Change recordings; but I think this is the best since Stand By Me. If you can't have Levon then Ringo is your man. What a magnificent drummer he has always been.


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Islands

Bill, FWIW I’d say the album’s cover artist was certainly thinking the latter.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Norm: Thanks for checking in. Your mention of the Aleutians got me thinking of the OQ's final LP. I wonder if whoever came up with the title was/were thinking of chunks of land separated by water or human beings who've grown apart.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Jacques Levy

Left out of the Rolling Thunder review film and the Album Desire. An article; on how his son tried to find out why.


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Posted by:

Norm J.

Location: Pacific Northwest "Some where south of the Aluetian Islands"

Subject: Playing For Change

I guess I should have realized most everyone would have heard the best Playing For Change recording yet. Great lineup with Larkin Poe and Willie's boy plus some of my favourites.

I don't know if every one has looked at what the "Playing For Change" folks do with the money from this work.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Subject: the other R.E.M.

JQ: I like that tag, "Republican Elevator Music".


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: The Burns doc and Garth Brooks

Garth Brooks seems a nice guy and good entertainer and it’ll be interesting when they get to him and the following chronology. I’d mark his era as the beginning of the end and the onset of what has become banal rock and roll, with a fiddle added, and beloved as republican elevator music. Americana took over as the place for quality musicianship and great writing, to this day. I wonder if the Burns’ crowd will see it that way.


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Posted by:

b.lee

Location: DE, USA

Subject: Burns Country

Have caught bits and pieces, Lisa. Think I will wait until in gets into the streaming realm so I can control the binge dosage, but what I've seen has been top notch. It will be interesting when they get to the period when Chet Atkins ruled in Nashville, and similarly Garth Brooks, who I see is a commentator. Did they save Country Music or pervert it? Right now I am getting my B&W docu fix by catching up on the Roosevelt series, usually dozing off watching after Mrs. lee has turned in and having to copiously rewind the next night. That Peter Coyote narration is just too, too soothing sometimes!

On a personal note, pleased to say that over a year after my recovery my lost fingernails have finally grown back enough to risk playing some guitar. Re-strung the Strat with as light as I can stand and have been noodling, unplugged on the couch. Not up to the acoustic yet. But it's progress.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: The Weight

Thanks BEG, I really enjoyed that. Joe


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Posted by:

brown eyed girl

Web: My link

SEPTEMBER 18, 2019 9:53AM ET
Rolling Stone
PATRICK DOYLE

Robbie Robertson Plays ‘The Weight’ With Ringo Starr and Musicians Across Five Continents The epic Playing for Change video was the result two years of work across ten countries


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Country Music Doc

Hi Lisa - I’m really enjoying it too. I know a bit about this and it’s great to see it all this way, particularly the footage I’ve never seen before. Nothing explains the present like a good history lesson.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe F: Thanks for the heads-up.

Lisa: I saw a bit of it, the focus on Jimmy Rodgers and the Carters. Ralph Peer certainly came out well.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Location: Saratoga Springs, NY

Subject: Van the Man

New Van out on October 25th: Three Chords & the Truth. Dark Night of the Soul is streaming now. Joe


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Posted by:

Lisa

Is anybody watching Ken Burns's Country Music series? It's really good!


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: FIVE for Sunday

Woman, Nancy Sinatra

The Best of Spooky Tooth

Spooky Two- Spooky Tooth

1968 - Jon Savage compilation

Plastic Fantastic People- Jimmy Ciff


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Garth

Great to see Garth visiting Willie Nelson in Poughkeepsie NY; on the net.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Recents:

Orville Peck - Pony

Fleetwood Mac - 1968 (debut, I think)

Ry Cooder - The UFO Has Landed

Moondog - 1969

Rosalie Sorrels - No Closing Chord


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Podcasts

Interesting, Solomon. I’ll check them out.

For the first time ever I’ve been using a Podcast on BBC iPlayer Sounds, entitled Classic Scottish Albums by Davy Scott, an expert on Scottish music who is always interesting to listen to. The podcasts confirm to me that as a small nation, Scotland punches above its weight in musical terms. I listen to the podcast, then I play the album a few times. The albums I’ve listened to relatively recently are:

The Average White Band - White Album

Stealers Wheel -Stealers Wheel

The Blue Nile - A Walk Across The Rooftops

John Martyn - Solid Air

Bert Jansch - Bert Jansch

I’ve learnt several new things about the albums, for example, how desperate Quentin Tarantino was to get Stuck In The Middle In Reservoir Dogs.

These are brilliant albums.


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Podcast

Just wondering if anyone has a favourite Podcast? Thanks for the link Wallsend! I have a great app called Podcast Addict and download them all to my phone.

10 good Podcasts

Honky Tonk Radio Girl with Becky

Love That Album

Sodajerker

Thanks For Given A Damn with Otis Gibbs

WTF with Marc Maron

Sound Opinions

The Naked American Songbook

Vinyl Snob

Rock's Backpages

My Favorite Album with Jeremy Dylan


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There is also an interview with Rick on the Sipthewine blog site that I don't recall seeing before.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There is a podcast on the Famous Lost Words website including an old interview with Rick and Levon from the 1980s and also a short interview with Robbie. Nothing especially new but still quite interesting.


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Posted by:

Solomon

Subject: Rock's Back Pages

AUDIO: The Band's Robbie Robertson (1991)

Tony Scherman, Rock's Backpages Audio, Fall 1991

Nice picture of Levon and Robbie from way back.


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Posted by:

Dan

Subject: Grant

In my office listening the Music From Big Pink and this remixed/remastered version of Yazoo Street Scandal has some incredible Garth organ that I never heard before. May not be The Beatles with 100 Greatest and a Sirius Station, but this music makes me the happiest, and there is almost always something new to appreciate. Time just to enjoy the music.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Grant

Grant - not a crank; you seem to care deeply about The Band guys and their music. That’s a good thing! I think it hurts all of us to think their special comraderie and incredible music didn’t last much longer, and that friendships frayed. We’ve got the music. Let that lift our spirits! The personal stuff; that’s really only theirs to reckon with.


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Posted by:

Grant

Location: The South

Oh forget what I said, Im just an old crank. It’s always good to see the Band celebrated.


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Posted by:

Grant

I suppose I’m being harsh. I love The Band and I love Robbie, telling The Bands story through him is interesting and he should absolutely have the right to tell his story, Levon did, so why not. I just think there has yet to be a level headed portrait of the Band that treats the other members as something more than sketches.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Wallsend

Wallsend - Thank you for the kind, gracious way you respond to others. That approach is so thoughtful and much appreciated. It helps to promote peace, and I thank you for that.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Grant, it is hard for those of us who have not seen it to form an opinion but what we know is that it is based on Robbie's book so it is telling the story from his perspective. According to what I have read, Roher is a big fan of The Band even though he is young. I don't know how much Dylan could add because his work with the Band was only one, relatively short, aspect of his long career. Also, in his interviews at least, he is not very communicative. I am not sure what you mean about Robbie being opportunistic, he seems to have built his career on hard work.


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Posted by:

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Subject: jh

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Posted by:

Grant

Subject: OWB

It seems to me that the doc is struggling to find its voice and its desire to appease Robbie makes him an unreliable narrator when telling the Bands story (which is what I think a lot of folks are expecting.) I don’t get the sense the director knows the Band very well, he seems as opportunistic as RR. At the end of the day my feeling is that the only person who could accurately give us true insight into their story is Dylan. Haven’t seen any positive reviews either except for Bill M. We’ll have to wait and see.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Wallsend: the Dylan clip was pretty recent, and my guess is that it was done just for the movie. One of the articles from the previous articles noted that Dylan was reluctant to appear but relented.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

According to what I read, OWB is getting world wide distribution next year. In the same interview that I quoted from, Roher said that Dylan did not want to do an interview for the movie but gave him access to his archives. Bill, was the Dylan interview a recent one? He also said they interviewed Garth but chose not to use it. I am guessing that was a polite way of saying it was unusable. Instead, he said, they decided to let Garth's music do the talking. No doubt the overwhelming majority of the available evidence supports Robbie's interpretation of events, but I think Roher was just saying that this thing we call 'truth' is subjective a la Rashomon. I am amazed that all this music has lasted as well as it has. When I was listening to it as a kid, I could not imagine I would still be talking about it fifty years later.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Wallsend, Al Kooper's 1968 RS review of MFBP called it the best album of 1968, "an event", a set of music that most musicians will work their lives away and never touch.


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Posted by:

Pat B

There are plenty of ways to test for accuracy in documentaries. Contemporary primary material is certainly the most important. Back in the good old days when the fued would erupt here, I'd always encourage folks to find out for themselves by consulting Jan's vast on site archives. You still can.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Besides Toronto, where else has OWB played. Is it online? Hopefully everyone here will have a chance to see it. I really liked Dylan talking about his appreciation for the Hawks' strength in sticking with him on the '65-'66 tour. This would have gone well with the second verse of the alternate take of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" - which is clearly Dylan's coachly pep talk to his deflated (and maybe even insecure) team. Unfortunately, director Roher chose to go with the unenlightening first verse about feeding the cat.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

I guess we will have to hold our judgement on OWB until we have had a chance to see it but, based on the article in The Star that Jan posted on the What's New page, Daniel Roher seems to have been sensitive to the issues he was dealing with:

Since the film is mainly Robbie Robertson’s account of the Band, and he’s just one-fifth of the group, how much can we rely on it for accuracy?

The Band had five guys with five different memories and five different perceptions of what happened. This is Robbie’s truth. Do I verify it as much as I can with the people who where there? Absolutely. But at the end of the day, everyone has a different perception of what happened. No one was standing behind these guys taking notes. Nobody thought Music From Big Pink would be talked about and listened to and celebrated 50 years later. They were just five young men, my age, trying to do the best that they could in extraordinary circumstances.


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Posted by:

Clint

Subject: The "documentary"

Once again, Robbie has shown that he was the leader of The Band - in size of ego! I think he's deeply insecure.


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Posted by:

John D

Web: My link

Subject: Bill M The Hawk On Red Carpet


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Posted by:

Bill M

John D: Garth wasn't there. Don't know about Hawkins. Robbie wasn't even there for all of it, because he would have had to nip across the street with Scorsese for the special showing of the TLW movie that followed the premiere showing (which was, confusingly, before the gala showing (and across the street).


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Posted by:

John Donabie

Subject: Bill M

Bill I know the Hawk was invited to the opening of Robbie's movie. Was Garth there?


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: Podcast

Thanks Wallsend,

I enjoyed the podcast. Joe


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Thanks, Peter. It’s decent coverage on the BBC website. ‘Roots-rock, The Band’. There’s a handle -the need to categorise. Looking forward to seeing the film and Robbie’s new album.

Playing Creedence at Woodstock just now.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just choked over my morning coffee. There was a holiday supplement in the Sunday newspaper, and I was flicking through and saw an ad "Come and see Ontario's lakes and beavers." (In British English that's about OK)


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Toronto, TIFF, Robbie et al

Cabbagetown Girl (aka Angie) must be in heaven.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Once Were Brothers

There's a lengthy piece on the BBC News website. They say it will have an international release. Not their words, but they compare it to Searching for Sugar Man, and suggest that it won't have the same cross-generational appeal, and also that OWB assumes some prior knowledge of The Band, which the Rodriguez documentary didn't.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

There is an interesting podcast review of OWB on the Pantheon Podcasts website.


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Posted by:

Jules

Subject: Once Were Brothers

It's a shame all the reviews seem to be negative about the documentary.

My connection to Robbie and Van ? I used to paint houses and clean windows.

I'm still looking forward to it!


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Posted by:

Bill M

Mike N: Thanks. I'd thought it was probably Grand Bend, but I've never been there so left it to others to confirm. I have been to other beaches on Lake Huron, especially Sauble, and the ribbon of darker water farther out always seems way higher than the beach, as if it's suspended. I haven't had that sense elsewhere.

By the way, toronto's mayor, John Tory, gave Robbie a key to the city prior to the screening of OWB on Sept 5. A photo of the two of them ran in the Toronto Star next day. Oddly, the only time I've Tory was years ago just after the AMH CD set came out. It was at a government-relations reception in late fall, and five of us were making small talk. Four of us admitted that we' dropped hints at home that a copy of AMH would make a welcome Christmas gift. The fifth, John Tory, seemed the odd man out, but I'm sure that's no longer the case.


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Posted by:

Peter V

I have been somewhat bereft since my Myrad CD player expired 3 months ago, and have been making do with a Pioneer DVD player in the hi fi system. Today I got an Arcam CD / SACD player to replace it. Test discs after set up, were as usual, Weather Report Birdland, gold remaster SBM version, which David P would have wanted to know. That shows the range from Jaco’s Incredible bass to Joe Zawinul’s keyboard. Then The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down from the gold remaster CD of The Band to check its naturalness of sound. It passed on both.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Lisa, I think the photo was first posted on the Robbie Fan Group page on Facebook. There is also an early track featuring Richard there. On the Levon Fan Group page people were posting nasty comments about Once Were Brothers. First the administrators closed the comments section and it all seems to have been taken down now.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Yola

One more for you Peter V. - This singer has one on the latest MOJO disc. Sounds good to me; do you know her stuff? From Bristol I believe.


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Posted by:

Dominic Cummings

PV - This character has made the news here, for the first time, broadly at least. The parallels between youse and us in this regard are really astonishing. Our Rasputin is a hybrid of Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller.


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Posted by:

John D

Subject: Grand Bend

If you were around in the sixties in the Golden Horseshoe area; then Grand Bend was the place to go for a Saturday night dance.


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Posted by:

Mike Nomad

Subject: Photo

For the benefit of those inside the Toronto bubble, the beach has a name: Grand Bend.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Joe F: yes it did come out, big time. It seems that every showing was followed by a 'Play For Change' version - far flung musicians anchored by Ringo S on drums and Robbie on guitar. A great display of the greatness and timeandplacelessness of the song - but also reminds you the NOBODY can touch the original. As for the reviews, my sense is that many were written be people who would have written the same word before and after seeing it, or even if they hadn't seen it at all. Just another chance to pick at a scab.

Lisa: Looks like it'd be a beach on Lake Huron.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Pat, that is an amazing photograph! Where on earth did it come from? And thanks, Peter - I wondered about the blouse thing too. Weird.


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Posted by:

Pat B

Web: My link

A great photo from 1961


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Posted by:

Peter v

Subject: Big girl’s blouse

It’s an odd expression, apparently dating from a sitcom. To me, it’s a sports commentator 30 or more years ago criticizing a player who was reluctant to make a hard tackle. It has a tinge of homophobia. The blouse is big, not the girl. I’m sure I have never used it and it would be years since I last heard it. Boris using it is like hearing an expensively educated man calling you ‘mate’ in the vain hope that it makes him sound like a man of the people. It never does.


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Posted by:

Wallsend

Thanks Lisa and BEG for the links. Seems like Robbie is in a happy place which is cool. I read the reviews too and thought they were mostly crap although I have to say I am not a big fan of 'talking heads' music documentaries. It is good that Robbie is keeping the Band memory alive. Peter, it seems you are having some interesting times politically over your way. I am learning a lot. I was not familiar with the expression 'a big girl's blouse' and did not know it was a term of abuse. Having spent most of my career teaching Japanese history, I have always found it interesting that in Japan they got rid of most of the aristocracy but in Britain they never did. Johnson and his associates seem like people from a different century. Not the twentieth, maybe the eighteenth.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: Once Were Brothers

Of course, I haven't seen the movie yet, but enjoy and respect Bill M's comments. Some of the reviews were rather depressing, at least for me. One line in particular from a review (not the movie) irked me; that is: "The Band only did some tinkering here and there with Robertson’s genius."

I am not sure that I could think that the great music The Band created would be nearly as powerful without all five of these marvelous musicians. I know the line that I quoted was referring to song writing, but that is not really my point.

The music created by The Band needed everyone to contribute what they did, that was what made it great.

I hope that came out in the movie. Joe


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Posted by:

Bill M

JQ: there was lots of new footage of talking heads talking Robbie talking, and the very impressive Dominique talking. (Hawkins too - insightful at times, funny as he'll at others.) Oh yes, Dylan too - very briefly but instructively. If you're looking for concert footage, much was new to me but I expect that it's all available elsewhere. There were snippets from a longer tape from when the very young Robbie and Levon appeared at a jam outside Toronto, but bits from the same tape appeared in "Yonge Street Rock & Roll Stories" a few years ago.

no name: John Simon did appear as a talking head. He wasn't especially insightful. Maybe better stuff ended up on the cutting room floor. Or maybe not.


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Posted by:

Lisa

Web: My link

Subject: CBC "Q" interview

This interview ran yesterday on Tom Power's program. Although much of it is familiar territory, I thought it was a pretty good interview, a bit different from most.


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: oooops. : )

Boz, not Box Scaggs


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Posted by:

Glenn

Subject: Friday 5

Yes, thanks BEG for that background article on Once Were Brothers; interesting reading. And Dunc, glad you're enjoying Macca's back catalog; I have been playing some of his older albums: Red Rose, Flaming Pie, Back to the Egg, Ram.

Recent 5: Box Scaggs: My Time Anthology, Van Morrison & Joey DeFransesco: Driving Me Crazy, Norah Jones: Begin Again, Sheryl Crow: Be Myself, Bruce Springsteen: Darkness on Edge of Town.

Have a great weekend everybody!


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: BEG's Exclaim interview (posted 8/31)

I finally had a chance to read the interview with coproducer Andrew Munger that BEG posted, which details Robbie's involvement with the Once Were Brothers film process. It's interesting reading for sure. This paragraph in particular is catching my eye:

"[Director Daniel Roher] pores over the outtakes from D.A. Pennebaker's landmark film Don't Look Back, and other footage of Dylan, Robbie and the other members of what would become the Band (Rick Danko, Levon Helm, Richard Manuel and Garth Hudson). Pennebaker's rare footage includes scenes of Dylan, Robbie, Levon and others backstage, in hotel rooms jamming, and other intimate settings. It's priceless and much of it has never been seen by the public."


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Posted by:

Dunc

Location: Scotland

Subject: Amazon price

Looking forward to Robbie’s new release.

The price on Amazon will hit sales. I’ll go into Glasgow to Fopp to buy it because there is now no CD shop in my home town.

Amazon makes buying CDs easy and, more importantly, possible here. The price is out of proportion when compared to other CDs. Thirteen pounds would be fine.

Went CD collecting today into Glasgow and bought the remastered Wings Greatest. I’m really enjoying collecting the remastered McCartneys. Beautiful remastering.

Thanks BEG for links. I was going to post about the report that Garth was in poor health, but you got there before me.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: new Robbie

Thanks, so it is just some weird thing on amazon.co.uk. Will buy it at HMV when it comes out!


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: Five (or six) recently played

1. NRBQ - At Yankee Stadium (my favorite from that band)

2. The Youngbloods - Greatest Hits.

3. Jerry Garcia Band - Electric on the Eel (disc 3)

4. Muddy Waters et al. - Fathers and Sons (with bonus live cuts)

5. Lukas Nelson and the Promise of the Real - Turn Off The News (some nice songs on this one)

6. The Eagles - Joe's (me) Playlist.


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: Pricing

Robbie's new one is priced by Amazon, US at $9.99 for cd, $26.25 for LP and $42.95 for deluxe version (no description provided). Joe


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Posted by:

Dag

Location: Norway

Subject: Pricing...

£11.99 from bobdylanisis com, £16.99 from badlands co uk


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Pricing? WTF?

Just went to amazon to order Sinematic … £21.08 for a single CD, £24.98 vinyl. This is DOUBLE the price of recent releases, e.g. Springsteen. So I scrolled down and How To Be Clairvoyant … from amazon stock, not re-sellers … is £22.73. Again, over double the normal new CD price on amazon.

What's he doing? No one else as far as I can see has brought the CD price up to vinyl price. This week's new releases from Taylor Swift, Sheryl Crow, Status Quo, Chrissie Hynde are around £10. OK, they might sell a lot … so looking down to Martin Simpson, who is more cult folk rather than a huge seller, and we add £2 to make it £11.99.

Is Robbie doing the same in the USA and Canada? I'm definitely not price sensitive with The Band, but I stopped and didn't order assuming there's some error. Also a degree of why would he think his album worth double the opposition?


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Bruce & The Band

From the web:

Levon Helm and his All Stars visited Springsteen’s “hometown” bar, The Stone Pony in Asbury Park, on August 22nd, 1987. The Boss was pretty much on hiatus from the road that year, so he often sat in when his musical friends would rock The Pony. As it was that night when Bruce emerged towards the end of the show. The crowd went nuts as Springsteen shared lead vocals on Up On Cripple Creek with Levon. Then, Bruce, Helm and the All Stars lit into a rollicking take on Little Richard’s Lucille. You could tell the two were getting off on the experience by the knowing glances they exchanged in a fan-shot video that thankfully emerged of the sit-in.

Unfortunately the video which used to be online is no longer available.

And The Band covered Atlantic City.

Bruce also did a Tribute version of The Weight in 2012.


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Posted by:

No Name

Mr. Robertson has a very high opinion of himself to say the least. I get that he wrote the greatest number of songs and that it was mostly his direction through his song writing that made The Band who they were, but listening to him talk about himself is nauseating. I can see Van and Clapton in this as both were there, and in particular Clapton was a big fan. Not sure what Springsteen’s connection was to the 60’s and 70’s Band, as there was none that I’ve ever heard. Wouldn’t a contribution from John Simon be appropriate, obviously not as splashy as-having Springsteen, but hearing from someone who was actually there for The Bands greatest work would make more sense. All in all this is Robbies version of what it was back in the day and there’s nothing new as far as his recollection of his being exhausted from having to pick up the pieces because of his band mates drug problems.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Five songs for Friday:

Sultans of Swing – Dire Straits

The Stones I Throw- Amy Helm

Violet Eyes – Levon Helm

Ventura – Lucinda Williams & Charles Llyod

Sapelo – Larry Jon Wilson


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Once We’re Brothers

Bill M - Did did you see much new footage? That’s a few reviews out already and they seem mixed so far.


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Posted by:

Bill M

Just emerged from the premiere of "Once Were Brothers". Excellent - so much better than I'd expected. A couple of odd choices of talking heads, but that's my only complaint, really, aside from the thought that Garth (who did get a nod at the end) should have gotten a more vigorous nod.


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Posted by:

jh

Web: My link

Subject: Once Were Brothers

YouTube audio. Enjoy.


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Posted by:

Peter V

Just went on to iTunes. LET LOVE REIGN from Robbie's new one is available as is I HEAR YOU PAINT HOUSES but no availability on Once We Were Brothers


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Posted by:

Jon Lyness

Location: NYC

Subject: Re: Once Were Brothers

Thanks BEG! Great song; it's a theme Robbie has covered before with This Is Where I Get Off but well done here all the same. Looking forward to the album.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

Robbie Robertson Chronicles the End of the Band in Bittersweet New Song 'Once Were Brothers'

Jordan Runtagh
September 05, 2019
people.com

“When the light goes out and you can’t go on
You miss your brothers, but now they’re gone

Robertson sings on the track, which features appearances by Nairobi native J.S. Ondara and singer/songwriter Citizen Cope. The chorus is a bittersweet farewell to his fallen bandmates and the bond they all shared.

“Once were brothers, brothers no more
We lost our connection after the war
There’ll be no revival, there’ll be no encore
Once were brothers, brothers no more.”

“There is war and conflict involved,” Robertson, 76, says of the deeply personal song. “Writing it hurt inside sometimes, but those experiences can be rewarding in the emotional outcome. It hurt but I loved it.”


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Posted by:

Peter V

I'd say that with Garth, you'd let him direct the conversation and wait for the gems to fall. I can't see a direct question approach working. It'd be a case of hang out for a few days, and listen, don't interrogate. However, while that might work with a book or article, with a film crew standing there and a budget you need to expect a usable clip in three or four takes. If you've ever been interviewed with a camera in front of your nose, it is incredibly stressful because of the expectation of an articulate soundbite fast.


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Bill M

It was pretty obvious in the TLW movie that Garth is uncomfortable with rock and roll interviews. I've found him to be quite capable of everyday conversation about this and that, including music. Maybe producer Roher neglected rule #1 - if you wish to communicate with someone, speak in their language.


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Joe Frey

Subject: When We Were Brothers

Thank you Peter and BEG.


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brown eyed girl

Web: My link

"I didn't realize this was going to be so emotional": Robbie Robertson reacts to a new documentary about his legendary rock group The Band

Robbie Robertson documentary opens TIFF in a 'golden age' for rock docs

Once Were Brothers is a part of a boom in rock docs. But do stars wield too much power over these stories?

Deana Sumanac-Johnson
CBC News Video
Sep 05, 2019

In the Exclaim article I posted below the only mention of Garth was that he was in poor health. :-(


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Posted by:

Peter V

Subject: Once We Were Brothers

In the article in UNCUT, OCTOBER 2019, p57 they describe trying to interview Garth and said it didn't work out. Roher travelled to Woodstock's Kingston Diner for "a midnight rendezvous.".

DANIEL ROHER: "Garth didn't arrive until nearly 2.30. He is getting older and that was apparent. But what I never really understood until I met him is that Garth communicates with the world through his music. We weren't able to put Garth as he is now in the film. It is challenging to have a conversation with him. But he has a professorial presence that I was humbled by. It was quite awesome to be with him."


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Posted by:

Joe Frey

Subject: Once We Were Brothers

Maybe I missed it, but in all of the articles, I didn't see if Garth was being interviewed. Anybody know? Joe


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Posted by:

Si

We're making plans for Nigel.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Boris Trump

PV - WTF is going on over there? It’s seems, perhaps, that optimism is in order? Is there no real choice for the voters between Boris and Corbyn? In any event maybe this global rightward pitch is getting back into some balance. Here too, hopefully.


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Joe Frey

Subject: Last Waltz Tribute Tour

New Last Waltz Tribute Tour announced on Rolling Stone (online). Endorsed by Robbie.


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Peter V

Subject: Girl who can't say no

It does come from Oklahoma. One of the greatest clips from Fawlty Towers too.


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Posted by:

JQ

Subject: Chris Hayes

He’s a young (30’s) MSNBC commentator and brilliant reporter. He just tweeted - “Best thing you can hear your 7 year old daughter say: Alexa play The Weight by The Band”. Quite a few appreciative tweets have followed.


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Bill M

Peter V: "Oklahoma" is Americana, but what it calls to my mind is Polly singing "I'm Just A Girl Who Can't Say No" on the Gourmet Night episode of "Fawlty Towers". (I'm not even sure the song comes from "Oklahoma".)


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Posted by:

Peter V

Web: My link

Subject: Oklahoma!

A link to my review of Oklahoma! at Chichester Festival Theatre. I don't usually link theatre, but it's music and it's Americana in a way!


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NorthWestCoaster

Location: Greater Copenhagen

Subject: "Who hates The Band?" / Bill M

Thanks Bill M, you got me going! - I am a keen contributor in Scandinavian Linux and political sites. I post with another handle, not as NWC. I am a Band coward, you see. I work on this issue: "Who hates The Band?"


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Posted by:

Rod

Ah yes, T Rex. One of the first albums I ever bought was Tanx - mainly because it was only $2.99. Just tracked it down on Spotify. Still entertaining.


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