The Band Guestbook, June 2020

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brown eyed girl

All Montreal music news for KEVIN J....and LANDMARK.

MONTREAL 690 RADIO
MELNICK IN THE AFTERNOON
Nov. 18, 2016
Robbie Robertson- Loved my time in Montreal
Mitch Melnick talks life and music with the Legendary Robbie Robertson

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brown eyed girl

Nov. 18, 2016
Robbie Robertson- Loved my time in Montreal
Mitch Melnick talks life and music with the Legendary Robbie Robertson

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brown eyed girl

The Montreal music scene salutes The Band
PAUL SPENCE

On the legacy of the Canadian group that mastered Americana (I thought Robbie called their music North Americana at one time?) ahead of the 40th anniversary of their legendary show, The Last Waltz.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan - If Not for You (Alternate Take - Audio)
Jun 25, 2020

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brown eyed girl

....and for your second GARLAND JEFFREYS recording....ESCAPE ARTIST.

She caught my eye
When she came into view
I met her on some New York avenue
I liked her smile
Her style and her grace
Her sexy walk could light up any place
She said to me
I just came in from Paris
I said to her
I'd like to get to know you
She said to me
I'm shy and a bit embarrassed
I said to her
There are some things I'd like to show you
Christine, Christine

I soon found out
It was more than fascination
I soon found out
It was much more than just a cheap imitation
I held her hand
Slowly we got closer
Felt like a man
And not some kind of poseur
Yes it's true she just came in from Paris
Her French perfume I got to know it better
We talked of love and poetry and marriage
Then I discovered that mysterious love letter
Christine, Christine
She caught my eye
When…

GARLAND JEFFREYS...CHRISTINE

Take the best from all cultures.

Take the best from all genres of music.

As long as you're alive and they're alive there's hope.
brown eyed angelina

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Kevin J

“I never heard him make a harmonic mistake,” one of Evans’ friends, pianist Warren Bernhardt, tells director Bruce Spiegel. “Never. Not one wrong note.”

Yesterday’s article by Juan Rodriguez and the note on Bill Evans that Pat B referenced has had me reading and listening for hours on end about the late great musician. I am going to see if I can order the documentary on his life “Time Remembered”

Robbie & Neil Young: I also enjoyed the guitar very much - more so than the song. When you think about RR’s contributions over the years to various soundtracks like King of Comedy, Jimmy Hollywood, etc. You do find yourself wishing he would have made himself more available to work with/guest on more outside projects.

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Pat B

Dag B posted a review of The Band's infamous Hollywood Bowl show where Levon claimed he was dosed but RR claims otherwise. The first Band boot I ever heard. The review is startling in that they had released their first two albums and only managed to fill half the Bowl--with Miles Davis opening. I guess LA isn't a college town.

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Bill M

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Peter V

No one seemed interested in the emergence of the Neil Young / Robbie duet. They must have slipped out to the studio to cut it. I have the actual CD in my hand now. Emmylou Harris also appears on some tracks – including Try with Levon. Stan Szelest is on two tracks too. Highly recommended album.

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John D

Today Bob Dylan becomes the oldest musical artist to have a #1 Album in the U.K. Bob is 79. Previously it was Paul Simon at 74. Congrats Bobby.

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Peter V

An aside in the latest Uncut magazine interview with Hank B. Marvin of The Shadows. He was asked about touring again and said the insurance would be prohibitive at their ages - that would be cancellation insurance. The Shadows haven't toured since 2010, but in the UK and Australia would instantly sell out large halls. I'd never thought about it, but it must be a major factor for older stars.

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Kevin J

Perfect way to end the day, BEG. Brilliant song. Funny to see the comments section to the video - usually the spawn of the devil on any Link - but in this case, nicely felt and not surprising to see the references to CHOM-FM. Garland Jeffreys was massive in Montreal and it is why he chose to perform his farewell concert there.

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brown eyed girl

Dedicated to all the film lovers out there....35 Millimeter Dreams · GARLAND JEFFREYS...GHOST WRITER

Good Night Pat B, Kevin J, Jon L......Sinus almost gone, gone, gone....Thank you!

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Kevin J

“I May Not Be Your Kind", “New York Skyline”, “35 Millimetre Dreams”, “Cool Down Boy” and the song that started it all for me.........”Wild In The Streets”.

The memories of sitting outside on a hot summer night listening to this album are really special to me.....and it sounds as good today.

......and if anyone is ever looking for a song to give you back some hope and happiness - do download and play - really loud- a GJ song from 25 years later called “I’m Alive” . It saved Chris Nilan’s life - it should make you feel pretty good as well !

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brown eyed girl

...and it was Louuu who first exposed me to GARLAND JEFFREYS! I was listening to CFNY FM and the radio DJ was going to play Wild In The Streets by GARLAND. He said that Louuu was a big fan of his.....and that's all it took for me to check out his music.

GARLAND JEFFREYS...SPANISH TOWN...GHOST WRITER

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brown eyed girl

Why-O GARLAND JEFFREYS...GHOST WRITER

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brown eyed girl

Hi Jon. I think Ghost Writer is the most consistent of his work showcasing all of his talents. I see that KEVIN J is on my wavelength again. ;-D

"New York Skyline" says it all. My city - the city I love. I don't know who loves it more - me or Lou Reed, but it's a hell of a town. It's taught me everything I know and perhaps, everything I need to know. Of all the songs I've written, this is one of my favorites and the album that it comes from, Ghostwriter, will always be uniquely special to me. The song sure does bring back memories. Thanks DW for the video. ----Garland

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Kevin J

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Jon Lyness

BEG, I always like the Garland Jeffreys songs you post. What's the best GJ album to get started with?

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brown eyed girl

Uhhhh.....Robbie says one more! brown eyed angelina says....many more!

Live performance at the Country Club in Reseda, California, 1981. Garland Jeffreys - Vocals, Brinsley Schwarz - Lead Guitar, Carter Cathcart - Guitar & Keyboards, Steve Goulding - Drums, Brian Stanley - Bass Guitar.

------------------------------------------------ From the album "Ghost Writer" (A & M Records, 1977), reissued on the album "I'm Alive" (Universal International, 2006)

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brown eyed girl

...and one more from GARLAND JEFFREYS!

The BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION wouldn't be complete if you didn't hear GARLAND sing The Contortionist with background vocals from LOUUU REED and his daughter SAVANNAH JEFFREYS!

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brown eyed girl

Another one from THE GARLAND JEFFREYS!!!!!... :-D

James Maddock on guitar.

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brown eyed girl

Pat B...Wow you are right! I just checked his twitter account after I emailed his significant other. Thank you Pat! He's the most generous musician with his fans in so many ways. Garland oozes with talent and compassion for all people of the world! One Love!

HAPPY HEALTHY IRIE BIRTHDAY TO THE ONE AND ONLY GARLAND JEFFREYS!!

"Surrender was released on Epic records in 1982, as part of the GUTS FOR LOVE album. The version you're listening to was recorded in my studio apartment for French TV. I liked the makeshift way of recording while the cars were passing by the open window." --- Garland

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

Pat B...I wore a mask while outside and inside some stores in my hood and still....The UV rays must be really strong as my face is still burning and that sinus is back.....Louuuuise Hay tells us that sinus problems come about when you're very irritated by someone close to you....Yes! A certain someone was not pulling my leg about the Clown and he better go back to not discussing politics or.......White older men wake up!! No wink I mean it........

Garland Jeffreys's Birthday is July 3. I did celebrate his 60th with Crab and two new friends that night from New Jersey. I think your birthday is right after Garth's? And I think Peter and Tenn's birthdays are right close to Robbie's birthday?

Someone mentioned BA the other day?

THE SONG ANALYST: “Broken Arrow”

Michael Shorr
November 1, 2007

"Today we’re going to talk about “melodic rhythm”; it’s used in Robbie Robertson’s song “Broken Arrow.”

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Lisa

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

Kevin J and Pat B

Juan Rodriguez's Rock 'n' Roll Life — Week 5: A close call when pigs fly\ Publishing date:Feb 15, 2013 • Last Updated 7 years ago • 10 minute read

Robbie Robertson put Rodriguez on his dance card at The Last Waltz.

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brown eyed girl

Thank you Kevin J....and Pat B

Juan Rodriguez Rock Journalist Legend and Pop See Cul zine

09.02.2017
Five Pages

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Pat B

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Kevin J

Below is part of an article that was actually a series of articles that Juan Rodrigues – a legendary rock critic from Montreal ( one of Canada’s first full-time rock critics, actually ) – wrote when he retired a few years back. Made up mostly of anecdotes from his years chronicling the music scene in Montreal – this bit about RR is interesting in that it involves him wanting a piece written that would help with getting a government grant to finance a movie about The Band. Although, the application for a grant was rejected – Juan Rodrigues was invited a few years later to The Last Waltz by Robbie as a gesture of his appreciation.

”In 1974 I picked up the phone and Robbie Robertson was on the other end. He wanted to do an interview to generate publicity for a documentary on the Band’s Ontario roots; he was looking for government funding. Living with his wife, Dominique, in the Côte-des-Neiges area of Montreal (where I grew up), he met me on a snowy afternoon at a bistro where I used to meet my very first girlfriend.

Robertson is a very deliberate talker, measuring every word for just the right meaning and nuance. He speaks to you as if you were his confidant. The interview went like a charm, but he had one condition: He wanted to read his quotes before publication, “just in case I’ve left anything out.” This countered all rules of professional journalism, which prevent the reporter from being manipulated as a mouthpiece for the interviewee. But I happily accepted his condition (I was on this musician’s side) — the first time I allowed a subject pre-approval. (As for my own words, not a chance!)

When my transcribing was finished, Robertson invited me to his apartment so he could check it out. The one-way conversation went like this: “Well, maybe I meant something like this. ... You don’t mind if I change this quote? ... We should elaborate on this,” and so on. The process was a fascinating glimpse into the mind of Robertson: a benign control freak. The published piece was titled Thinking Out Loud, from a Band song title.”

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Peter V

Subject: White Line (duet version)

And here it is.

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Peter V

Just ordered Neil Young's 1975 Homegrown from amazon.co.uk and got the download while you wait for the post. Just listening. I hadn't realized that "White Lines" is the original duet version with Robbie Robertson which was recorded before the Wembley 1974 Concert. Lovely Robbie intricate guitar around it.

Levon Helm drums on Separate ways and Try too.

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Norm J

Subject: Best Cover

These kids at "School of Rock" in Chicago really kick ass. Pat Brennan must have taught them. The little girl on bass is spot on with great bass lines aan she really gets in to it.

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Norm J

Subject: No-no-no best Louie Louie

Mark Linsey sings this best and I like the sax over the organ.

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Peter V

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Peter B

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Dag B.

Subject: "Rip It Up" NZ music magazine

Wallsend, I came across this, digital issues from 1977 to 1985.

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Bill M

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Peter V

Celtic Bhouys original request was covers of The Band, Van M, Dylan, N. Young and Springsteen, I think. So …

Neil Young … Helpless … k.d. lang

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Wallsend

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Peter V

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Pat B

First album I bought was "The Kingsmen Live featuring Louie Louie"

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Bill M

The first LP I owned was "Christmas Time in Canada" by veteran C&W singer Wilf Carter, aka Montana Slim, though he was from Nova Scotia. (How's this for embarrassing, Lisa: my favourite song on the album was "Punkinhead".) The first LP I bought would have been a delete by some local group. The first LP I paid full list price for was "The Best of Ronnie Hawkins" - still in print in 1972. Paid for out of my first paycheque - from my dishwashing job at a local restaurant. I know I was paid $1.35 per hour, meaning I worked four effing hours for that slice of vinyl by Ronnie and our guys. There is no way I'd spend four hours' pay on a record here in 2020.

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haso

Subject: Lisa's soundtrack

Oh and yes there was an early soundtrack, seems like in the 1st year or 2. "Paint your Wagon", Lee Marvin and Clint Eastwood in a musical. !!! Who thought that was a swell idea?

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haso

Subject: CB:1st LPs

Yeah, Lisa don't worry about embarrassment at the stage we're at. As best as I can recall there was some flower power album that had a song or was titled as I recall as "Here Comes the Sun". Maybe it was just "Here's the Sun", I don't know. And not sure of the group, definitely not The Beatles. Seemed like one of those total LA types like Strawberry Alarmclock, that sort of thing. Definitely a hippie-dippy kind of sound. I know in the interim, we moved from LA suburbs to rural Illinois and I had to order it at the bookstore of the high school my freshman year.

But I do remember clearly the next 4 I bought, although not which order: Green River by CCR, the brown album, CTA (Chicago Transit Authority) and Steppenwolf the 2nd.

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Wallsend

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Roger

Subject: Riff with Cliff

Great review Peter. We were probably in the same cinema for both The Young Ones and Summer Holiday. (And then Blue Hawaii).

I went to one of the Cliff and Shads final shows in 2009. We went because it was guaranteed that they'd perform nothing recorded after 1963. Glorious. After 1963 - well, another story. The Young Ones was a better film than Summer Holiday, though I'd never clocked that Peter Yates directed SH - his first ever full director job.

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Dunc

Really enjoyed reading the review of Summer Holiday. I loved the film and saw it twice, the first time queueing for ages to see it at the cinema in the centre of the town, then six months later at the cinema in the local area. I thought it was great how the workers would work for no pay to convert the bus. Aye, right...as we say in Scotland.

Bachelor Boy, Summer Holiday and Foot Tapper are all brilliant songs.

You’re right, Peter. You can’t like pop if you don’t like Cliff.

I thought the staged raid on his house and subsequent events were an absolute disgrace. Really disgraceful.

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Peter V

Subject: Cliff Richard Toppermost

My Toppermost on Cliff linked. It ends:

Last word to Tony Parsons in The Independent:

If you don’t like at least some Cliff Richard, you don’t like pop music.

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Peter V

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Jed

Haven’t heard about the feud for at least a few hours now. Isn’t time for a refresher? Ok.

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John D

You know Peter here is something you already know. Back in 1990 I interviewed Cliff here in Toronto. I had always heard he didn't believe Capitol EMI did not do much for him in North America; especially the U.S. He went into great detail that it was indeed fact as far as he was concerned. He said he could sell more records in Luxembourg. I believe it hurt him that his North American label didn't do much to push him. However like The Beatles Canada were first with Living Doll and I believe worked harder for Sir Cliff.

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Peter V

Subject: Summer Holiday

The 60s Retrospective series stays with pop exploitation for the other huge non-Beatles one, Cliff Richard and The Shadows in SUMMER HOLIDAY (1963). Linked. Like The Young Ones it didn’t make a mark in the USA but dominated the coldest British winter on record in 1963. The burst of colour and sunshine throughout was a tonic. A significant snippet – the LP topped the British charts for fourteen weeks. It was replaced by Please Please Me. That marks a watershed point in British popular culture. So a look at pre-watershed pop.

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Wallsend

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Lisa

Here's an Elvis story for you: I was never much of an Elvis fan, but when Blue Hawaii came to Vancouver I joined a line which stretched all around the block of the Orpheum Theatre (back when it was a movie theater, and it had a huge screen). By the time I got in the only seat I could get was third row from the front, almost at the wall. I saw the whole movie at an extreme slant, which I think influenced my opinion of Elvis from then on. Actually, I appreciate him a lot more now than I did then.

In August, 1977 I was feeding my second baby when my husband came home and said, "Poor old Elvis." I said, "What do you mean, poor old Elvis?" He looked at me and said, "He died!" I almost dropped the baby, I was shocked to my very core, Elvis couldn't die!

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Bill M

JQ: Yes, forever.

"A Love Supreme" - John Coltrane -- McLaughlin & Santana

"Seeing" - Moby Grape -- Robert Plant

"Yazoo Street Scandal" - The Band -- The Road Hammers*

"Out Of The Blue" - The Band -- Mary Margaret O'Hara*

* with Garth Hudson

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Wallsend

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Lisa

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brown eyed girl

Lisa! I love The Far Away Part of Town sung by Judy Garland!!! I really want to see film Pepe now. No one comes close to Judy for her singing and acting and her.....She's just so precious....and her films with Mickey Rooney I absolutely love as well, especially when Mickey shows us how special I mean really special he was as he was a quadruple threat....He could act, sing, dance, play instruments like the drums, piano and trumpet....and he married for one year his first partner....Ava Gardner....Take that Frank Sinatra!!!!

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Lisa

For you, beg. Music by Andre Previn, lyrics by his then-wife Dory.

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brown eyed girl

Awww Kevin....Don't remind me that when you were in grade 3 I was in grade 9. First day of High School someone thoghAnd yes...The night before the first day of school was always a sleepless one as whoever walked through that door was either going to make my day or not. ;-D

Lisa...Any song with Judy Garland is fine by me!

Parents of very young children or grandparents....You know that I love grandparents. Btw I did meet my maternal grandparents when I was a teenager in Europe and then when I was 19 instead of going to school I left for Hempstead, England to be an Au Pair as I was so mesmerized with British musicians at the time. Unfortunately when I saw my bedroom.....I said noooooo, I just left a room like that and left the very next day. The family owned a clothing factory and had this huge house and that's all they have to offer....Bye bye!

Re Pandemic...We have to wash our hands for 20 seconds. Or at least 15 seconds. If thy don't want to count all the time just suggest they sing the Birthday Song and they're good to go!

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Lisa

Subject: (blush)

The first record I ever bought was the sound track to a movie called Pepe. The movie itself almost defies description, other than to say it was full of movie star cameos, songs sung by Maurice Chevalier, Judy Garland, Bobby Darin, etc., featuring the music of Andre Previn and a West Side Story-esque dance sequence, a beautiful horse - also, unfortunately, the character the star of the movie, Cantinflas, was reduced to a dreadful Mexican stereotype. That went totally over my pre-teen head though, and to me it was the epitome of sophistication and glamour.

And Kevin, here's another kind of September song, from that movie. I love this song, all the more now that it's so much more relevant and poignant to me today.

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JQ

Richard Thompson - Tear-Stained Letter - Jo El Sonnier

Townes Van Zandt - Loretta - John Prine

Johnny Cash - Train of Love - Jimmie Dale Gilmore

Hank Williams - Lost Highway - Kurt Nilson

James Carr - Pouring Water on a Drowning Man - Elvis Costello (acoustic)

Percy Sledge - When a Man Lives a Woman - Karen Dalton

New Order - Love Vigilantes - The Oyster Band

I think this could go on forever -

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Kevin J

BEG....I was still in Elementary school when Maggie May was first out but I discovered him by hearing that voice on FM radio a few years later and purchased the album.

Weird but something about a September approaching still gets me. I remember my Dad saying that that “Sunday evening/thinking about Monday” feeling never quite left him even years after his retirement.

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brown eyed girl

I was longing to be wooed
I was ready to be humbled
By the words that you had written
By the syllables you mumbled
Yeah, I was ready in my heart
To have my heart invaded
By the fervour of your passion
Yes, I came to be persuaded

But when I heard your ragged voice
Something switched in my perception
And I knew I was the victim
Of a beautiful deception
All my once exact beliefs
Like tangled threads unravelled
I walked out, stunned and liberated
And so began my travels

Keep the river on your right
And the highway at your shoulder
And the front line in your sights, pioneer
Keep your eye on the road
Remember what you told her
This is all in code, my dear

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Dunc

I was trying to keep to an Alex Harvey theme...and I thought Lulu would be too easy, Peter.

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brown eyed girl

"He received the moniker 'Crown Prince of Reggae' from none other than the king himself, Bob Marley, who declared Brown his favourite singer and successor. Brown is believed to have fathered 12 children, five of them with his estranged wife Yvonne."

Probably Dennis Brown's most well known song....Have You Ever Been In Love

The last time I was in NYC with the South American he saw Dennis Brown in NYC via of new Rasta friends he met in NYC. They owned a health store at 5th/125th street. ;-D I have no idea how I didn't attend show with them but another night we checked out a Speak Easy in the same hood. Uhhh....I took one sip of something.....lol.....I thought I was going to lose my balance.....I thought Rastas only smoked. Ha, ha, ha.....Dennis Brown unfortunately had a huge coke problem and passed at 42.

Happy Healthy Pride. I've been wearing my Pride wristband all week. Due to the Pandemic my Co-Op will not be having our annual Pride party in our courtyard so....Tomorrow everyone who signed up will be receiving a kabob and salad outside their unit door. Virgil eats pork so he's fine but since I don't....My kabob will be vegetarian....Unless....They can barbecue chicken or turkey. It's all good! :-D

Kevin...I was in high school when Maggie May came out as well....Just sayin'. My brother had his poster up on the wall along with many British musicians along with one female artist...Rita Coolidge....and....poster of many kinds of hashish. I had no interest at that time. Funny story maybe three decades ago....OUCH!....One day friend who I visited in South Africa...who lives in Toronto, my Scottish housemate who was introduced to me by this friend at a party and her special friend at the time were just walking to Riverdale Park via Cabbagetown and he noticed this huge chunk of something...I looked and yup! It was a huge chunk of hash! lol.....Well, once I told him, he quickly picked it up and later gave us all a chunk to take home. I guess a pusher/dealer made a drop alright. ;-D

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brown eyed girl

You know I'm not one to break promises
I don't want to hurt you but I need to breathe
At the end of it all you're still my best friend
But there's something inside that I need to release
Which way is right?
Which way is wrong?
How do I say that I need to move on?

You know we're heading separate ways
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
There's nothing I can really say
I can lie no more
I can hide no more
Got to be true to myself
And it feels like I am just too close to love you
So I'll be on my way

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brown eyed girl

Thank you Celtic Bhoy... :-D

Thought provoking quote b.lee...Martin Mull first said "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture.".....Alright! :-D

Louuu Reed...Sweet Jane...Cowboy Junkies
Bob Dylan...All Along The Watchtower...Jimi Hendrix
Etta James...I'd Rather Go Blind...Rod the Mod
The Temptations...My Girl...Prince of Reggae...Dennis Brown
Elvis Presley...Little Sister...Ry Cooder
Jacie DeShannon...Put A Little Love In Your Heart...Al Green and Annie Lennox
Alex Claire...Too Close...Melanie Martinez
Bob Marley and The Wailers...Turn Your Lights Down...Lauryn Hill
The Isley Brothers...This Old Heart Of Mine (Is Weak For You)...Rod the Mod
Bob Dylan...Girl Of The North Country...The Waterboyzzz
Sam Cooke...Cupid...Amy Winehouse
Richard Thompson...Keep Your Distance...Buddy and Julie Miller

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Wallsend

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Peter V

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Peter V

Celtic Bhoy:

Tupelo Honey – Van Morrison & Dusty Springfield

A Change Is Gonna Come- Sam Cooke & The Band

Tonight I’ll Be Staying Here With You – Bob Dylan & Cher

The Stones I Throw – Levon & The Hawks and Amy Helm

Broken Arrow – Robbie Robertson & Rod Stewart

If You Gotta Go / Si tu dois partir- Bob Dylan and Manfred Mann and Fairport Convention

Blinded by The Light- Bruce Springsteen and Manfred Mann Chapter Three

After The Goldrush – Neil Young & Prelude

Powderfinger – Neil Young and Cowboy Junkies

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Dunc

Great to hear from you Celtic Bhoy. Here’s three covers with a Scottish twist. All related to the great Alex Harvey.

Shout - Isley Brothers and Alex Harvey Soul Band. Make sure you check this out on You Tube, CB. The Soul Band recordings are available on YouTube. Check them out.

Delilah - Tom Jones and Sensational Alex Harvey Band.

Crazy Horses - The Osmonds and Sensational Alex Harvey Band. He got pelters for covering this.

I miss going out into Dundee, Glasgow or Paisley to spend the entire day record collecting. Thanks CB.

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Norm J

Subject: Records

You guys are a bunch of punk kids.....now you know I'm joking. My first records were still the 78's brittle and too breakable. Buddy Holly "Oh Boy". Everly Brothers, Elvis.

One night my older brothers (17 and 18) were having a party. Some one left a stack of my records on the couch 5 or 6 and some one else sat on them and broke every gawd damn one in half. They learned how precious my records were. Mom made them replace them all. When I was 12 I had a paper route, I mowed lawns and I cut fire wood. A good portion of my income was for buying records and my little record player I won in a raffle. That's back in the days when I really used to look after my stuff. I had quite a collection of those 78's. When 45's came a long I had quite a stack of them. Just a few years ago I gave them all to a good friend. He bought himself an old Wurlitzer juke box real cool.

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Kevin J

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Wallsend

The sound quality on LPs always used to irritate me so in that regard I was happy to switch over to cds but as a buying experience LPs were great. I remember especially buying the Cry of Love and Rainbow Bridge. I liked the covers just as much as the music. Same with Hendrix in the West. Because everything is so easily available now nothing is special but back then when you got a new album it was a real cultural experience. Also they were comparatively expensive so you really had to choose carefully. (jeez, old people are boring going on about how things were back in the day).

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Kevin J

What really stands out about that passage from Testimony that Jon quoted - and there are hundreds more like it from the book - is that it was written by Robbie himself, not some flowered-up interpretation of a thought told to a ghostwriter or an “as told to biographer.......and as anyone knows who has taken the time to write anything important ( a eulogy, a letter to a lover, etc,), it takes time and much care and effort to get things just right. Take a minute to think about the character of someone to find that kind of time and extend that kind of dignity to an old friend that spent so many years of his life spreading such ill will toward you.

Celtic Bhoy: your description of purchasing and then unwrapping of albums was one of the great pleasures/memories of my teenage life. 1974 I think, “Every Picture Tells a Story” by Rod Stewart. Bob Dylan’s Greatest Hits with that wicked multi-colour hair poster was number 2. The first 100 - 200 purchases I can almost remember every detail. As to CD purchases, I remember almost nothing special except immediate cursing of those flimsy always breakable plastic cases. The rare time ya got a full cardboard one was usually a cheaper purchase and they were so much better !

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Lisa

Too embarrassed to say.

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Jon Lyness

Thanks, CB. I've started reading Testimony for the first time, and that very joyful quote leaped out at me right away. I love it. I'm also struck how the same quote could have described Levon and his performances a full 50+ years later. Even through cancer and hardship, he stayed true to himself right to the end.

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Celtic bhoy

Subject: Where are my pals?

P.s. this time difference is a bugger!!!

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: Record stores

Interesting to hear you guys wax lyrical about the super cool record shops from your youth.

I’m sure Dunc will back me up here, back in the day in the UK we had to make do with Virgin and HMV supplemented with Listen and Lost Chord. I lost months of my life doing what my dad had done for years before me in flicking through vinyl for most of a Saturday afternoon, avoiding the punks and having the odd go on the space invaders machine.

Can you remember the complete joy of getting on a bus home and pulling out an L.P. from your plastic bag and studying the sleeve notes all the way home until you could get it on the turntable? Ecstasy.... as a good friend of mine is prone to say, “it brings a funny taste to your trousers”.

Somehow we kinda lost a lot of that when the cd,s took over. Highlight of my week is every Saturday when I only allow myself to play all that lovely vinyl from back in the day.

One last question guys which I’m really keen to know......

What was your first ever album?

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Celtic Bhoy

Subject: The feud!

Step forward Mr Lyness and take a bow....

In spite of much good intention, there is a fair amount of vitriol on the site about Levon & Robbie. And I get it, it’s because we all care.

But Jon, what a lovely quote to remind us all of how it once was back in the day, which kinda explains how all that magic came about.

Sounding like it’s all good BEG from where you were a few weeks ago - great to see you never let it drag you down.

Suggestions please, answers on a postcard! Some friends I’ve known from my first day at school catch up once a fortnight on zoom and we take turns to set a music challenge.

This week, top 3 cover versions of great originals. All massive fans of The Band, Dylan, Neil Young, Van Morrison, The Eagles, John Hiatt, Springsteen etc.

All suggestions gratefully received. Until I get some better suggestions, my list is :-

Atlantic City - The Band and Springsteen.

It Ain’t me babe - Dylan and First Aid Kit

Tears of rage - The Band and Ray La Montaigne.

Stay safe out there guys.

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Wallsend

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Peter V

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Dunc

Thanks, Si. Will definitely check them out. Playing Countdown to Ecstasy just now. Thunderstorm type rain outside.

I wish I was in Bournemouth. Party! Party!

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Si

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Peter V

Subject: Bobby Vee

New article by me on Toppermost. This time Bobby Vee.

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Dunc

Thanks Kevin and Ben. Interesting about the guitar, Kevin.

Last couple of days, I’ve been playing Steely Dan. The musicianship on the albums is just brilliant, from every instrument, to the singing, to the backing singers - and all for the good of the song. Great guitar playing. Brilliant band.

Peter, is that you and the missus under the green parasol? It’s all happening in Bournemouth.

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Jon Lyness

"In the center of it all was a young beam of light on drums. Teeth gleaming, laughing, bleached hair glowing, whole body shaking, drumsticks twirling, pushing those red sparkle drums with a hawk painted on the bass drum like a white tornado. It was the first time I saw Levon Helm, and I'd never seen anything like it." --Robbie, Testimony

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Kevin J

Another book with very good content on The Band is John Simon’s memoir “Truth, Lies & Hearsay”. Extensive coverage of the period around first two albums and also his association with the reformed band. An easy, almost breezy read but highly enjoyable.

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Ben

Jon, Revolver sounds right. I remember that a lot of the boots at that store were cdr's. Generation and Bleeker St. Records had a much higher percentage of silver pressed boots. I used to read Goldmine and Ice magazine and when I found listings for Band boots, more often than not I was able to find them at one of the Village stores. So, we may well have crossed paths there at that time. I had gone to college in Westchester for a few semesters in the early 90's and spent a fair amount of time in the Village then. In that period I wasn't shopping for music, I think we were just getting stoned and hanging out in Washington Square park and eating falafels...

haso, thanks for the offer. I'm kind of the on the fence about the book now as most of the comments here weren't that positive. I really should get Robbie's book next. That's the only major one that I haven't read. I guess that when it came out I really wasn't that interested in Robbie's version of events, but at this point, I am more ready to read it.

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b.lee

It is thought that Martin Mull first said "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." Given that, it's a bit of hoot to read a general literally textbook description, or attempt thereof, of music from a period that one lived through, realizing that there are now generations who weren't there, never heard it in context, and don't know how it influenced what came after. Now maybe I know how all those long dead European guys I've been listening to might feel. I hope to get back to your link and read some of the rest of the book. Interesting that at the end of the Psychedelic section, the listening exercises include Frank Zappa, who is not mentioned in the chapter itself. Hell of a thing to spring on some unsuspecting innocent!

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Jed

BEG-The Band? Musta been Garth’s harpsichord?! As an aside,The Doors were a downer on psychedelics.

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brown eyed girl

Robbie Robertson: "While playing with Bob Dylan I remember thinking, 'They’re going to wake me up tomorrow because all of this is impossible'"

Alan Paul
April 07, 2020

"The movie addresses Levon’s anger with you and the difficulties in that relationship, which you haven’t discussed too much.

Levon and I were the closest; he was the closest thing to a real brother I ever had

"It just came about naturally because we were really leaning on the very real story of the brotherhood. Levon and I were the closest; he was the closest thing to a real brother I ever had."

Did that make the difficulties that much more painful?

Robbie Robertson and Levon Helm(Image credit: Harvey L. Silver/Corbis via Getty Images) "Yes. It was painful to know what he was going through and that it was eating him up - and it had nothing to do with me. He’s a tremendous guy and a tremendous talent, somebody that I loved so much.

"When Levon said these things, I thought, “Oh, he’s having a tough time.” And I never engaged in it at all, because I knew there was something else going on, and then I found out he had health and financial problems.

"I still completely loved him. Years later, he suddenly said I was responsible for The Band not coming back together. There was a truth in that, that I completely admit to - but I would have done it if it was doable. I was the only one that showed up."

What do you mean?

After The Last Waltz, we wanted to talk about what we were going to do when we come back after everybody pursued some other things. We were going to meet at the studio, and I went there and nobody came or answered their phone.

"I sat there and waited, and it got dark outside and I thought, 'I’ve got to read the writing on the wall.' It was just a sign that everybody wanted to go in a different direction, and I was like, 'Okay, I get it.' And that was it. I showed up and I guess they would have if they could have."

A lot of guitar players displayed jealousy and wouldn’t show you things: 'I had to learn myself - and so do you'

And not just a Canadian - but a 16-year-old Native Canadian/Jewish kid.

"Right! I had to break down all these barriers to win, and it was such a challenge. I had obstacles to overcome that were a mile long."

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brown eyed girl

Psychedelic Music and the 1960s

The Band?????????

Of course The Grateful Dead are here for JED and many other boyzzz on this site.

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brown eyed girl

Kevin J... Youngest Band fan in TO :-D

Jon L... Youngest Band fan in NYC who met my friend Louuuu. :-D

Jed... close to Birthday Boy's age today. :-D

Looks like I will pick up food from College and Dufferin area. Virgil wants pork....I don't eat it at all so I'll be ordering seafood. When I was at NB and NG's home for a weekend I was asked if there was anything I don't eat and I said pork. Lol NG thought I was Jewish. Well, someone else in the GB thought I was Native because I post so much about Robbie. Another person thought I was Black as I post a lot about Marley. Anyway, Gray Boy and Midnight dropped by to wish Virgil a Happy Healthy Birthday. I managed to put on a Birthday tiara upside down on Gray Boy. Later today I or more likely Virgil will try with Midnight. I know all this sounds so frivolous or silly? Of course his best gift would be to hear from his daughters.....I will never make up for that heartache but I keep telling him that it only took me three decades to forgive a close relative so it's only been two decades with his kidzzzz.....So sorry NOMADIC MIKE that you are also experiencing this as I thought the last time I heard from you that things were cool. They will be again....I always say as long as we are alive.....There's hope. Even South American boy's mom said.....Everything takes time and it does! :-D

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Clark Gobble

Funkly my dears, I don't give a damn.

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Jed

Glad to read your health is improving.

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Pat B

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Kevin J

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Dave H

Should be "funky," of course...

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Dave H

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haso

Subject: Dr. John

Peter: my impression from Mack's commentary on the anniversary TLW dvd was that he encountered the Hawks back in those juke joint days of the South and Southwest that kind of winter-weather coupled w/ the Ronnie trips to Yonge St and environs. Not sure if Greil Marcus or Jay Cocks said something like that as well.

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haso

Subject: small town

Going back to Fathers' Day: Ben... I personally would weigh in w/ Mr. Viney. In fact, I'd send you my copy of "Small Town Talk", if you'd like. I've thought Hoskyns a good source on his original study of the OQ and his commentary on various medias about the Band. Enough so, that I ordered, bought, (local bookstore, I tend away from the Behometh) and read his tome on Laurel Canyon and the denizens (C, S, N, Y; Joni, Jackson Brown, etc.) of that peculiar place. But STT seemed kind of gratuitous; a lot, lot of name-dropping.

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Kevin J

I've been listening to a lot of guitar lately - more than normal - and not that I didn't know already about how good Dickie Betts was but he really was something else. A related reminder to anyone looking for a 5 star music documentary - you should enjoy "Tom Dowd and the Language of Music"

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Bill M

Subject: more Duke Edwards

Here's Duke Edwards powering Rhinoceros through a live version of "Better Times" at Randall's Island NY in 1970. Grainy film, but worthy.

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Bill M

Subject: The (other) Young Ones

Here's a link to the title song of a powerful 1968(?) and mostly out-there and most instrumental album by a Montreal-based group of mostly transplanted American jazz guys. (There's a local guy on guitar and guesting Torontonians on tenor and percussion.) Group singer-leader is Duke Edwards, a New Orleans native who moved to Montreal to join Sun Ra in the early '60s. He moved to Toronto, became the 'musical guru' of Jon and Lee and the Checkmates, writing the b-side to their only record. He also, through a friendship with Ronnie Hawkins, became the manager of the locally important Frank Sheppard and the Good Shepherds. And then he moved back to Montreal to form the Young Ones. He then rejoined his Checkmate chums in Rhinoceros for their third LP (1970). He subsequently returned to New Orleans, where he became the director of the Louis Armstrong Museum or Centre or something like that. For those few of you who got to see the "Yonge Street Rock and Roll Stories" documentary, Duke was the guy who talked about Toronto being the first place he'd ever been where nobody could tell him where the 'black' area of town is. "Black Elephant", also on YouTube, is an out-there jazz instrumental, so a better indication of the usual sound - but this one seems more timely right now.

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Peter V

Subject: The Young Ones

One of my most thorough 60s reviews, laden with pictures. THE YOUNG ONES from 1962, starring Cliff Richard & The Shadows. This film did nothing in the USA (entitled Wonderful To Be Young), but in the UK, the rivals in popularity on release would be A Hard Day's Night and Help! (And the sequel, Summer Holiday). This film was massive. It has some discomfort in mixing genres … pastiche MGM musical with 60s pop exploitation. In spite of that we enjoyed revisiting it. It's a great snapshot of the directly pre-Beatles era … filmed in mid-1961, General Release was January 1962.

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MWL180

Long-time lurker and very infrequent poster. There is an interesting article on a website I frequent about Neil Young's Homegrown. While there is nothing earth-shattering, some fun information about "debauchery" with Rick and Richard and some info about creative special effects on The Last Waltz. The site is called The Ringer which is free and found by a simple Google search. Sorry....I don't know how to post a link. Enjoy.

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Jon Lyness

BEG, glad you're doing well! That's great news.

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brown eyed girl

I have also been to Generation Records....First time I was there with Crab someone waltzed in and bought Dylan's Great White Wonder....awwww.....so close and yet so far away. I did buy some The Band and Van boots. Store close by I met a Canadian owner who married an American and bought a cool hair clip and flip flops....She gave me a ticket to have a free drink next door where her partner owned a bar. I know....Sometimes good things happen to me out of the blue....Then Crab took me to either Revolver Records or....Gee not sure but I think it was at St. Marks Place which had meaning for me via of Louuu. And yes he pointed out on 8th Avenue where Hendrix recorded. One of the best ways to experience a city is to see it with a native. I had been visiting NYC since 1991.....

I remember at Louuuu's place in the West Village Sinead O'Connor's Nothing Compares To You was playing on TV.....and I saw The Pogues at the Palladium!!! It was our March break and we just lucked out. On the plane blue-eyed girl and I checked out the Village Voice and made our plans. We saw the Alvin Ailey Dance Company....I teared up during Fix Me Jeus....and the Merce Cunningham Dance Company where Merce was up on stage at the very end and.....blue-eyed girl (music teacher who was in my classes with green-eyed girl) noticed that avant-garde John Cage was in the audience....works closely with Cunningham. Another night we were walking on Mcdougall street and she noticed a Bar and said let's go. She's even more fearless than I am as I'm more hesitant at first. Fantastic night of music. We met some people from Detroit and stayed late. We didn't have far to walk to my friend's home. She had three bedrooms so a large home right besideWe were there for nine days and enjoyed ourselves as both of us are into visual and performing arts. So for me everything on this trip in 1991 was a first. She was the perfect person for me to experience the Big Apple. She was not into The Band at all. She never liked Dylan's voice but yet likes Neil Young. She's also the one who gave me a cassette of Stephen Fearing's music when I didn't know about him or BARK. She's from Lunenburg, Nova Scotia so she's into celtic music and even travelled many times to France to be part of a Hurdy Gurdy group of musicians.

For everyone who wished me well with contracting Covid-19; so far so good!!! Virgil's last day of self-iso was yesterday as well!! Tomorrow he turns 69. We are deciding on whether to go to his fave Portuguese restaurant in the west end where there are picnic tables at the back....or just take-out again. We're not in a hurry to mingle with others as he had to iso twice the time I did. Hopefully I will have some immunity but no one knows for sure yet. Heart felt thanks again. :-D

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Joe Frey

Subject: Boots

I do miss searching through Goldmine for live recordings and studio outtakes from Dylan, Morrison, Clapton, Marley, Browne and, of course, The Band. This was during the advent of the CD era (pre-internet) where a lot of stuff was dubbed off of LPs, radio shows and tapes.

I do recall my excitement when I found and an ad for The Complete Last Waltz. The asking price was $100. It was a great find and the sound quality was good.

While most of my boots are collecting dust these days, I still listen to The Band's The Last Moving Shadows and Tombstone with Jules Shear (Peter V gave me a version of the latter years ago).

I do have one Eric Clapton boot called Turn Up Down, an unreleased studio album recorded in 1980 at Surrey Sound Studios. 13 Tracks: Blues Instrumental, There Ain't No Money, Games Up, Rita Mae, Freedom, Evangelina, Home Lovin',Hold Me Lord, Something Special, I'd Love To Say I Love You, Catch Me If You Can, Thunder and Lightning and Oh How I Miss My Baby Love.

Don;t know the back story about this music. Would be interested if any GBers know about it. joe

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Bill M

Norm: Thanks - Taj has a future. Hopefully it will include Carlos pulling him into Nazareth to pick up a Gibson.

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Norm J

Subject: Carlos Santana & Taj Farrant

So if you haven't seen this little boy from Australia (10 years old), now you watch him cuttin'heads with Carlos.

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Rod

It's a mark of a good song that people can generate their own images and meanings from the words (and music). I've never thought about the meaning of the song that much but each verse does conjure up it's own set of pictures in my head. (Carmen is a black woman walking down the road with some dodgy guy, The final verse has a big steam engine in it).

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Jon Lyness

Ben, pretty sure you're describing Revolver Records, the second floor walkup on West 8th Street that carried Beatles and Dylan boots. Funny. I'm sure we crossed paths unknowingly at one of these places!

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Peter V

There was one with lots in Evanston, wasn't there, Pat? Though it tended to Grateful Dead from memory.

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Ben

Subject: New York record stores

Pat and Jon, Generation was a big one for silver pressed boots. I never had any luck at Bleeker Bob's. I think that place may have been a tourist trap. I used to like to stop for a slice of pepperoni at the pizza joint next door. There was a place a few blocks away on the other side of Washington square park, it was on 8th street, I believe, right across the street from Jimi Hendrix's Electric Lady studio. That store was up on the second floor and was down the block from one of the great hot dog papaya juice places mmm mmmm mmm. I think the deal was two dogs with mustard and kraut and a papaya drink for 5 bucks.

There were also some good record stores down on St. Mark's Place. There were several independent stores that carried some boots, there was a place that sold a lot of promos. Lots of good places to shop for music in. I used to go in regularly in the 90's into the early 00's. But, the last few times I went the stores had begun closing down. All of the places on St. Mark's had closed. I think the only places that were still there was Generation, Bleeker Bob's and Bleeker Street Records.

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Lisa

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Bill M

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Lisa

My recollection is that Robbie (pre-Scorsese), movie buff from early on, was especially fascinated by the films of Luis Bunuel, and "Nazarin" in particular. It has a long, complicated plot, but is basically about a priest trying to help someone out, and things go from bad to worse. Or as Robbie put it, the impossibility of sainthood, which I always thought was an interesting way to put it.

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Pat B

Photos of Aretha recording The Weight

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Pat B

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Bill M

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Jon Lyness

Bill, 100%. The first verse theme of being turned away tracks well with some of the Staples' 1960s songs. Additionally, quite a number of black artists recorded covers of The Weight in the late 60s/early 70s, so perhaps they felt that resonance as well. Again, nice insight.

Ben, I spent so much on Dylan boots at those Village CD shops in the 90s, they should've had my picture up on their walls. As you say, most of those places are long gone, but amazingly Generation Records is still hanging in there on Thompson Street. Their website says they've just reopened yesterday after a three-month closing.

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Bill M

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Ben

Subject: boots

Peter, That's a great story about the Van boots. Back in the 90's I used to make regular trips into New York to hit the record stores in the Village. I was able to acquire a pretty large collection of Band and Dylan bootlegs. I haven't been up there in years and believe that nearly all of those record stores have closed down.

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Bill M

Thanks Jon. I imagine that the opening lines would have resonated with the Staples, especially Pop, when they sang "The Weight". Maybe that's why Mavis continued to sing it?

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Peter V

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anonymous

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Kevin J

Bill M......thank you for that story and link. I love the version of the song on the John Oates album Mississippi Mile. In fact, I just purchased it from iTunes. Great song. Quite a rarity also for a big time musician to pay such proper respect to the original artists and the songwriter to boot in such a setting. Good on John Oates.

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Rod

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Jon Lyness

Subject: The Weight

Robbie's quote from BEG's excerpt: "[The Weight] is about the guilt of relationships, not being able to give what’s being asked of you." Never heard him say it quite that way before. That's fascinating on a number of levels.

(Love Bill's comment too that the narrator of The Weight could have been a weary black musician, unable to find needed shelter in that first verse. Also a very thought-provoking idea.)

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Norm J

Subject: Leonardo

Agreed Kevin. In this day and with the racial climate it really takes some dedication to perform that convincingly. Along with some of those black actors the way they treat each other in those fights.

One of the best ever and you have to credit Speilberg the way he can get reality out of his cast was La Amistad. One of my all time favourite flicks. The work that Anthony Hopkins did as John Quincey Adams and the very long dialogue he gave in court was impressive.

I have the 30th anniversary copy of "Blazing Saddles". The comments of the actors (particularly the white cowboys) remarked how some of the dialogue made them squirm and was hard to do. But they had to make it real. Only problem is the crazies who believe it.

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Kevin J

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Norm J

Subject: Django

In these times with the current human condition this movie of Jamie Foxx is one to watch. For those who may have seen it the scenes with Don Johnson and his gang of red necks is so funny I almost had a cardiac arrest "no choke hold tho'".

If you haven't seen it, Jamie Foxx becomes a cowboy fast gun bounty hunter and takes up with this white guy from Germany who used to be a dentist and becomes bounty hunter. They shoot 3 guys on Don Johnson's ranch who were worth $7000 or something. Don Johnson (I forget his name in the flick) rounds up all his people and surrounding ranches and they go out to get these bounty hunters and string 'em up. They put on hoods like KKK. Trouble is they don't fit so well and "we can't see a fuckin' thing out of these things" the eye holes ain't cut right. The guy whose wife spent all day makin' these things is very hurt by their complaints and leaves. This is so funny you got to see it Kevin.

I have become a net flix junkie. Particularly documentaries on so many things. The planet and wild life. The Siberian tiger for example. These people camp for over 2 months just to see one. When they finally get this big guy filmed it is incredible how big he is. A huge tiger standing in the gawd damn snow! Not what you expect to see.....just beautiful.

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Kevin J

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Kevin J

Thank you, Dunc. I do check-out now and then but no, I don’t think I’ll ever leave. This GB really was Facebook before Facebook and Twitter before Twitter and will continue to be what it is for a long time to come. I hope. Though, this lockdown and spending too much time here has its consequences as I’ve started adding backslash n’s to regular non-GB messages these days !

Anyhow, I’ve been listening to a lot of Leonard Cohen recently. Takes me away and reminds me of the pleasures of escape - and speaking of escape, really glad that I recorded almost all of the late great Anthony Bourdain shows from his Travel & Escape period. “No Reservations” was the best travel show ever done. The shows on Vietnam and France are particularly brilliant. It’s been a blast rewatching all of the shows. What a loss...

Recent movies or tv series re-watched with great pleasure as well......”Appaloosa” ...a fine western with Viggo Mortensen and Ed Harris, “The Night Manager” ... John L’Carre mini series, “The Good German” - very underrated in my view. Panned by critics, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Picked up the DVD of “Once Were Brothers” on the weekend ( at Bay Street Video for TO residents reading ) It is the theatrical movie release version - so no bonus material. I would guess the next release of it for Christmas will include bonus material.

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Bill M

I was amazed and thrilled to learn, about 10 years after the fact, that John Oates (of Hall and …) had recorded Fraser and Debolt's 'big' song, "Dance Hall Girls". Here's a live version of him doing the song. Brilliant song.

I met Allan Fraser around '81 when we were both helping my best friend sell home insulation door to door. And again last year, when he turned up at a blues jam hosted by different friend who happened to be lifelong friend of his from Sherbrooke, Quebec. As for (Daisy) Debolt, she was an absolute force of nature until her death maybe 10 years ago. I remember seeing her and her large band in 86 or '87 at Albert's Hall upstairs the Brunswick House. Large enough to accommodate two accordionists, and large enough to stare down anyone who dared complain. Some of you Torontonians must've frequented the place back then.

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Mike Nomad

Angie, interesting occasional vignettes from your past. I feel that I know you a little better now. Thanks, too, for the links and the passion. I can also relate on a personal level to your partner's pain re his kids. It hoits, fer shure. And yes, I grew up with the Hawks, best bar band I’ve ever seen, although a few others have come close. Used to save my college beer money just to see them, returning every night they were in town. Then travel to out-of-town venues when practical. It was . . . um, swell, as they say. Kevin, I’m sure, would understand.

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Bill M

Subject: current listening

Here's a highlight from the LP that just ended - an interesting cover of one of the more Bandish Beatle classics. This duo were critical darlings in the early '70s, sorta like the McGarrigles were a few years later but without the songwriting successes (though they both did that well too).

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Pat B

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Bill M

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Bill M

Robbie, who produced the Hirth LP, also used Boucher on the Jesse Winchester LP. Before that, Boucher had replaced Ken Kalmusky in Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks ca '66, and held down the bottom for a fabulous lineup - guitarist John Till, organist Gord Fleming, pianist Richard Bell, drummer Dave Lewis and singers Eugene 'Jay' Smith and Jackie Gabriel.

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Bill M

BEG: Chapman and Scorcese sound like humans - quibbling among themselves over the meaning of X, not even thinking to seek the views of the actual creator of X who is standing two feet away.

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Norm J

Subject: Identity

It always kind of irks me that Americans like to take credit unjustly for too many things. Winning the second world war for example. A documentary I watched recently shows clearly that on the Russian front the Russians took on the biggest job of defeating Germany.

What I'm getting at, the clearest relavent example is in your post BEG. This guy from Miami seems to see the Band as just Americans. Maybe he's never listened to Acadian Driftwood. As much as I read of his writing I saw no identity with Canada there.

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brown eyed girl

Ok....I got it now Robbie.

"In the end, Scorsese’s meticulous preparation for the filming and framing of The Last Waltz resulted in a 200-page script that instructed each cameraman on every position and each moment that they needed to film during the evening. An example of the attention to constructed details around the film can be found during the post-concert recordings of “The Last Waltz Suite” at MGM studios in which an argument erupted between cinematographer Michael Chapman and Scorsese concerning the correct choice of lighting for the production of “The Weight:”

Chapman insisted it was a Protestant song and that, as a Catholic, Scorsese didn’t understand the Gospel influences. (‘Go down, Miss Moses, there’s nothing you can say. It’s just old Luke, and Luke’s waiting on the Judgment Day’). Scorsese wanted him to use the colors violet and yellow, suggesting a Catholic intonation in the song.

Robertson had 65. Ellis Cashmore, “Idea of a Man” in Martin Scorsese’s America (Cambridge: Polity, 2009), 206. 66\ no say in the matter, but listened approvingly. ‘I liked everything they were saying because I had never thought of any of it...the song is about the guilt of relationships, not being able to give what’s being asked of you,’ said Robertson.66 Here we view another example of how the detailed production behind The Last Waltz contributes to the construction of the Band’s American narrative. By focusing the presentation of the group’s music on important American cultural influences such as Christianity, the film works to support the groups already established identity and, in this case, even goes beyond what the group originally intended. For example, by attempting to label an American group as a specifically Christian ensemble, the inference suggests that other religious organizations are somehow less American. And in this case what is and what is not considered to be the “most American” is used to help to define the group’s identity. This example proves how The Last Waltz enforces a specific character on the ensemble that results in labeling the group as a founding chapter in the book on American musical history.

Scorsese concludes the film with footage from the true final performance of the Band under the original lineup. With Manuel on dobro, Helm on mandolin, Danko on upright bass, Hudson on organ, and Robertson on harp guitar, the Band looks more like a classical chamber ensemble performing the requiem to their own careers. Featuring an instrumental piece titled “The Last Waltz Refrain” filmed at the MGM studio recordings, 66. Mary Pat Kelly, Martin Scorsese: A Journey (Boston: Da Capo Press, 2004), 115-116.

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brown eyed girl

Crafting Americana: The Band, The Last Waltz, and
a Revivalist American Perspective in the 1970s

Unnerstall, Grant Lawrence
2019

Conclusion
The Band and The Last Waltz represent a revivalist perspective by reflecting on the feelings of 1970s disillusionment in the United States through the creation of music that represents historic American references. Through numerous musical associations with genres such as Southern rockabilly, New Orleans jazz, Mississippi Delta blues, Appalachian folk songs, Evangelical church music, as well as many other influences, the Band was successful in establishing a certain kind of American identity that would define the group’s career. The Last Waltz embodies these notions within the convenient context of an historical artifact that is captured in film and subsequently defines what type of American music and cultural influences establish the Band’s version of America.

Finally, the combination of all these factors throughout the Band’s career coalesce under the constructed nostalgic term Americana. Furthermore, new associations between members of the group and the modern genre continue into the 21st century. In 2010, Helm accepted the inaugural Grammy Award for “Best Americana Album,” for his solo work, and later received the honor again in 2012 shortly before his death in April of that same year. These awards prove that despite the fact that the group no longer exists and that many of the individual members have since passed away, the Band’s legacy continues to represent a quintessential example of traditional American music under the meticulously crafted term Americana.

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brown eyed girl

I was born by the Grand River.....and I've been runnin' ever since.

I cannot remember if Al Green sang this song or any other songs unfortunately. I saw him in the mid-eighties at our Reggae Fest at Lamport Stadium. In this clip he is performing with another musician I saw at Eric Clapton's Guitar Fest....Booker T!.... and yes he performed Green Onions....The only song I heard as a child....

What I do remember very clearly.....At this time I was lost....I had my four year degree and quickly became aware that it was like a high school diploma...

Before I was going to commit to two more years of school and difficult years financially.... I was a TA working with grade seven and eight students in a Learning Centre. The first school was in Drake's affluent hood....however he lived with his Ma in a basement apartment. He did not live like Lorne Michael from SNL who lived in this hood.....Yeah he's Canadian in case ya didn't know. Drake's Jewish Ma was astute...Live in an affluent hood in order to give the best opportunities for her son....Drake's black father was not around then. The teacher I worked with one day stood right up in front of the students and told them at one point that poverty didn't exist in Toronto. Her partner was a physician at CAMH and sure in her wold she never saw or experienced poverty. I didn't live in poverty only because my Ma and brother and I lived with our paternal grandparents. My Ma's siblings and parents were in Europe.....So after six months I transferred to the school actually across from where I live now. I spoke up at a staff meeting.....and the Principal hauled me into the Office. He said if I wanted to speak my mind I should at least become a certified teacher. After two years I attended the Institute of Child Study which is now part of OISE. Some years after I graduated from the program....it became a MA in Education. It didn't matter pay wise....because of my training I was in the highest paid salary anyway.

Never too late to go back to school......As a teacher I spoke up again at a Staff Meeting and the Principal told all of us that he doesn't get angry he gets even. He got even alright. He gave me many very challenged students as opposed to giving each of us teaching the same grade some of the students.....behavioural issues ADD, children living in Women's Shelters, learning disabilities which by the way these children have average or above average intelligence but maybe they have a problem processing language or their short or long term memory......I somehow survived.....I had to as the students depended on me.

At another school I was really appreciated so I could challenge administration when I saw it was necessary and no problems....However, she did say wow for someone teaching in their first year you sure have a lot to say. Of course I did as my life experiences were different than many teachers which allowed me to be more empathetic to the many students who didn't know it yet but I was determined to instill in them that all we had was education.....Just like my Ma instilled in me....We weren't part of a social class where you went to University because it was to get your MRS.....We went to school because it was the only way we were not going to live close to poverty.....When I witnessed daily how hard my Ma worked in a textile factory for such little pay even though she was in a Union....An American one which one day up and left and then her life was really close to poverty....I could not help as I was a struggling student myself.....Those lean years made such an impact on me......If we didn't have our grandparents......I was determined never to be dependent on anyone financially.....ever.....

Anyway, my first Principal was a female who taught me to get up out of bed when you couldn't sleep and bake or cook. I still do this....Virgil lets me know the next morning that it's not cool as he can smell whether I'm making gluten-free pancakes with buckwheat flour or.....This Principal lived in an exclusive part of town..... was mean spirited to other female teachers because they were older and hadn't trained at my school. I was the IT girl for three years...whatever I requested it appeared. It would never be the same when I changed to other schools closer to where I lived.....I should have just moved close to my school but I don't always take the road more travelled......The other thing I observed as time passed....Principals were coming out of schools with an MBA rather than a MED.....Yup....A change came alright.

Apologies to Joshua Ledet who performed A Change Is Gonna Come....He was actually 20 years old....not 24.

Let Me Breathe

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Bill M

Subject: A change ...

Here's the Sam Cooke version - still my favourite and surely deserving of A-side status even at the time of release by RCA. Reading about the NO that Sam Cooke and his band received at the motel in Louisiana, and then watching this, the thought occurred to me that the protagonist / narrator of "The Weight" could have been Sam Cooke, or any number of African-American (or African-Canadian) musicians who went though (and in some cases still go through) similar circumstances.

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Ben

Subject: Change

I actually heard the Otis version on friday afternoon at a barbecue and sang along to a verse. The Otis version is very powerful and his vocal is far grittier than Sam, but I think Sam's gospel background allowed him to bring a fervor and passion to his performance that beats Otis by a hair. Transcendent stuff.

brown eyed girl, I'm a big Lou Rawls fan. Stormy monday, Tobacco road, lots of good stuff. The Sam Cooke song that I really hear Lou wailing in the background is 'Bring it on home to me'. Classic, Van did a great version of that tune on 'It's too late too stop now'.

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brown eyed girl

"A Change Is Gonna Come" is a song by American recording artist Sam Cooke. It initially appeared on Cooke's album Ain't That Good News, released mid-February 1964[1] by RCA Victor; a slightly edited version of the recording was released as a single on December 22, 1964. Produced by Hugo & Luigi and arranged and conducted by René Hall, the song was the B-side to "Shake".

The song was inspired by various personal events in Cooke's life, most prominently an event in which he and his entourage were turned away from a whites-only motel in Louisiana. Cooke felt compelled to write a song that spoke to his struggle and of those around him, and that pertained to the Civil Rights Movement and African Americans. The song contains the refrain, "It's been a long time coming, but I know a change is gonna come."

Though only a modest hit for Cooke in comparison with his previous singles, "A Change Is Gonna Come" is widely considered Cooke's best composition and has been voted among the best songs ever released by various publications. In 2007, the song was selected for preservation in the Library of Congress, with the National Recording Registry deeming the song "culturally, historically, or aesthetically important."[

I think it was two years later that marriage was finally legal in all USA states between a white person and an African-American person. Nope. It was a year later when Canada was 100 years old.

"Interracial marriage in the United States has been fully legal in all U.S. states since the 1967 Supreme Court decision that deemed anti-miscegenation state laws unconstitutional, with many states choosing to legalize interracial marriage at much earlier dates."

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brown eyed girl

We all love each other don't we? Am I right?

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Peter V

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Bill M

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Sonny

I always remember Charlie Gillett playing it on the radio and claiming it was just as good as Sam Cooke's original. I like the Otis version the best.

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Pat B

Sounds insane but Cory Wells from 3 Dog Night did a more than creditable Change Is Gonna Come. And Baby Huey & The Babysitters were a roaring Chicago band. Whew were they good.

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Bill M

The only other one I have is by Toronto group Blackstone -basically Rhinoceros reassembled after five years. Maybe 1975. BEG might be interested to know that the drummer was Richard Steinberg, who was in Tycoon with Michael Fonfara and other Lou Reed vets. He may be from Montreal originally, as a couple years before that he'd played on Tim Ryan's solo LP, which was done in Montreal with local musicians mostly. (Pat B: These included both Alan Gerber and Randy Bishop; also Richard Baker, later of Santana.)

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Norm J

Subject: Billy Preston A Change is Gonna Come

Gettin right down to it, Billy Preston does everything top shelf.

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brown eyed girl

...and then there is the 24 year A CHANGE IS GONNA COME. Btw when ever I play Sam Cooke's YOU SEND ME....I had no idea for years that it was....Louuuuu Rawls singing back up! Also it was Crabby's friend who gave me a....shoot I'd have to look it up but the music company she works for in NYC did some new pressings and Sam Cooke's Greatest Hits was one of them. I have this recording only on LP and no more stereo to play ......Sheesh! You'd think of all people that I'd have a fabulous system......Maybe this holiday season when the sales are on.

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brown eyed girl

Hey BILL M. Yup! I was at the same Red Rooster today picking up food for Father's Day. Although Virgil's children keep telling him that they are busy or don't respond; I still try to make this day special as he raised his kidzzz until teen years as he worked mostly nights and weekends while former partner worked during the day outside the household. He didn't even want to check his phone today as the disappointment would be crushing.....I think the visits today from Gray Boy and Midnight really helped him....Once a father always a father. Hopefully they won't wait four decades like I did to forgive someone.....for me a very close relative.....For those of you who are close to your children....Keep it that way! I would give up all the shows I've seen in my life to have that. So I guess that Levon and I had something in common after all...and a couple of other things. ;-D Anyway Bill, I did post info and a photo of the Concord Plaque before but here it is again. Very cool that our very own NOMADIC MIKE....You saw The Hawks here right or was it somewhere else? Of course the late JT's father was a part-owner of this Club. When we started emailing the very first thing he told me was about his memories about this Club. He'd have his cokes during the afternoons watching The Hawks!!!!!! Wow!!!!!! I forgot to ask if he ever saw The Hawk do his back flips the way Now BEN.....I'm only sharing what JT told me.....He told me that his father told him that Robbie......yes Robbie......was the most polite of all of them. Just sayin'..... :-D

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Posted July 13, 2019 As a young teenager my girlfriends and I used to go to the Concord on a Saturday afternoon to see Ronnie Hawkins, Robbie Robertson, Levon Helm. It was so great of them to put on a show in the afternoon for the kids. I have a few pictures! Great times! Thanks Conn vmoore482@gmail.com

Posted February 21, 2018 My aunt worked at the Concord back in the 60's. She often spoke of Conway Twitty and how he would bring 2 little girls in to his work. I have a Rolex cigarette lighter she received as a gift there still in its original Rolex box and in a little velveteen pouch. It has never been used and is inscribed The Concord Tavern Toronto, Canada. Thought someone might be interested. Thanks Conn cbowden@gbtel.ca

ROD...I think you're right about the quote. I asked about your music 'cause I couldn't access it? I think that you're a good musician so share, share, share! :-D

NORM...All systems go! I may send photos of Gray Boy and Midnight since Susan is a fan of felines as well.

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Peter V

Subject: A Change IsGonna Come

Try Baby Huey from 1972. Linked. Personally, Otis first, Sam Cooke 2nd. The Band? Fourth would be generous.

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Peter V

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Wallsend

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Norm J

Subject: A Change is Gonna Come

Another great cover by Playing For Change.

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Ben

Subject: every since

Bill, It's not in the Sam Cooke or Otis Redding versions. I just listened to both of them and while the Otis version is a fine performance, it can't hold a candle to Sam Cooke which is astonishing. Al Green also did a very moving version on the Concert for the Rock and roll hall of fame cd back in the mid 90's.

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Bill M

The other day I posted Rick Danko singing "A Change Is Going To Come", but forgot to ask where Rick got the "every since" from. I don't think it was in Sam Cooke's original.

BEG: Dinner yesterday was from the Red Rooster on Bloor - almost across the street from the building that housed the Concord Tavern. The Historical Board saw fit to install a historical plaque there, and it mentions our guys. (Peter V: Did you get the photo I sent of it a couple weeks ago?)

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brown eyed girl

Ok Ben's this is my fave Reformed Band song just for you.

Off to the Red Rooster. Virgil requested Portuguese food. Difficult day as his 33 and 35 year old children still won't engage with him.....Just heard this morning that most fathers just want a phone call/text from their kidzzzz.....true. I gave him a card and small gift and bought a cake I know he'll love....and trying not to annoy him for one day. He has two more days of quarantine. I was surprised I wasn't told to retest. Anyway, it's too hot here without central air so the home cooked meal will have to be for his birthday later this week if....if.....humidity lets up. :-D

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brown eyed girl

"Robbie Robertson is joined by Dr. John, Sheryl Crow, and Steve Cropper in a TV performance broadcast 9-2-95.

The BetaGems channel also has "Robbie Robertson performs on late night TV in January 1991," "Robbie Robertson 2-6-95 late night TV performance," "Eric Clapton & Robbie Robertson 3-8-00 TV performance," and "Dr. John 9-2-95 TV performance" from this same broadcast."

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Bill M

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Bill M

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Ben

Dunc, Interesting comment about the 90's Band albums. There was some great material cut with Jules Shear in 1990 or 91 that's on the 'Tombstone' bootleg. The title cut, 'Tombstone, tombstone' is a lost masterpiece. it's a travesty that it didn't make it onto 'Jericho' while middling material like 'Amazon' did.

Larry Campbell did some amazing work with Levon on 'Dirt Farmer' and 'Electric Dirt', maybe if he had been involved on the 90's Band albums, they would have been stronger, but again, I'm pretty happy with them, especially 'Jubilation'.

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Bill M

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Ben

Lots of great discussions going on here over the past few days. Dunc, interesting comments about the history of the gb. It seems to me much of the vitriol that used to pop up here has now moved onto facebook. Which is fine, let the people who want to be divisive and nasty stay over there.

Pat, thank you again for referring to me as young man...I'm 51 and have a 7 year old, so I don't feel particularly young. I'm usually the oldest in my social circle. I was talking to a neighbor with 2 young kids last night at a pool party last night who told me he was 32 and was born the year I graduated high school. So, age comes down to vantage point. It's interesting that you mentioned the Who. They are my other favorite group. For me, it's been The Band and The Who as the twin pillars of rock groups since I was 13 or 14. Besides, both groups covering 'Don't do it', they are quite different. The Who were so much about adolescent angst. "My Generation', 'Pictures of Lilly' and their magnum opus 'Quadrophenia'. The Band's music was always about adults, so for Levon and Rick to perform the OQ material in their 50's with a bit less energy and works fine for me. Both, the Band and the Who are really comfort food for me. I can put on a CD of either group and just realax from whatever else is going on.

Brown eyed girl, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad that you're feeling better. I get that everyone has different tastes here regarding the OQ and the reformed Band, it's all fine.

Rod, Which version of 'High on the Hog' do you have? The re-issue has a couple of bonus tracks, 'Young blood' from the Doc Pomus trubute and 'Chain gang' from Rick's 'Times like these' which makes for a much better listening experience, but I really think that 'Jubliation' was by far the best of their 90's albums. It's really unfortunate that they didn't get to tour behind it.

Lisa, that Letterman clips was great. The show that Levon missed was hilarious. And the show that he appeared on the following week was good, too, but the clip with the segment producer sitting in with Letterman was really inspired.

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Peter V

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brown eyed girl

...and the only other Devo song I remember during New Wave days.

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brown eyed girl

"1973–1978: Formation. The name Devo comes from the concept of 'de-evolution' and the band's related idea that instead of continuing to evolve, mankind has actually begun to regress, as evidenced by the dysfunction and herd mentality of American society."

For Sebastian Robertson and his son Donovan.

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brown eyed girl

Paul Simon - Father And Daughter (Official Video)

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Jon Lyness

NorthWestCoaster, was thinking about that article recently. A fascinating artifact of the feud. The deep passion for music shines through even as I see a somewhat darker shading to the hoax today.

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brown eyed girl

FIRST TIME HEARING CAT STEVENS FATHER AND SON REACTION

Cat Stevens was the last musician I stood in line to get tickets....Awwww.....Tickets ran out! :-(

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brown eyed girl

HAPPY HEALTHY FATHER'S DAY TO ALL THE BOYZZZ!
:-D

"As the lead songwriter and guitarist of The Band, Robbie Robertson has held a musical career spanning over 50 years.

To celebrate this years (well, last year's) Father’s Day, Robbie Robertson and his son Sebastian sat down with Gibson to talk about their favorite guitars, a love of Devo??? and long lasting musical memories."

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Dag B.

Dr. John & Rick were both on the Bobby Charles record in 1972. Both Dr. John & Robbie played on Mockingbird by Carly Simon & James Taylor in 1973.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Dr John by Peter V

The best article on DR John can be found on this web site (where else, shame on you!). Go to * articles/the_road_from_turkey_scratch.html *

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Dunc

Hi Ben, I enjoy your posts. There are great versions of certain songs in the three reformed Band albums, but some uninspiring stuff. Read Greil Marcus on Amazon (River of Dreams). There is no doubt that the guys could play. Why did nobody stand up to them and say ‘Do you really want to record this?’. The answer is that nobody around them had the balls to stand up to them and say ‘Let’s think about this again.Lets work a little harder, guys.’ Surely this is the case.

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Wallsend

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Dunc

Thanks, Mike Nomad. Keep posting, Mate. Hope you are enjoying your move.

The thing that I find most amazing about Dr John is that he once played Blairgowrie. Amazing. When I saw him, it was just him and a piano In Glasgow, two thousand in the hall, and a really good concert. But he never played ‘Such a Night’.

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Dunc

Thanks, Wallsend. The sensible thing to do would be to sue if there were issues about songwriting credits. But I’m not an expert on the issue.

Many years ago, I went to an Americana festival in Perth (Scotland), the highlight being a tribute concert on the Saturday evening to Hank Williams. One of the musicians playing was Sid Griffin, who gave a talk on Million Dollar Bash - the Basement Tapes in the afternoon. It was really good with he and ex Lindisfarne man Rod Clements playing parts of songs. I enjoy the book.

At the end there was a question and answer session and I asked the question ‘Who wrote the Band songs?’ You could hear a silence in the room, he sighed, hum hawed, made a comment along the lines of ‘I’ve got to work with these guys again’. But then he answered along the lines of that in every band, there is someone who makes things happen and that some band members are little help at all because of various reasons. He said it was up to himself to make things happen in his band, The Coal Porters, and listed their problems. it was Mick in the Stones...and in the Band it had been down to Robbie Robertson to make things happen. The answer went on for quite a while and he was glad to get to the next question.

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Rod

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Peter V

Reading about Dr John. What was his connection that got him a place at TLW? He had just played on Beautiful Noise with Robbie and Neil Diamond, but during Levon’s lost two years, part was hanging out in LA where Dr John was doing session work in 1966 and 1967. I wondered if the connection went back that far?

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Peter V

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Rod

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Wallsend

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Jon Lyness

I may have posted this already but can't remember: Eric Andersen has released a 3CD set called Woodstock Under the Stars, a compilation of live performances spanning 1991 to 2011. Looks like a lot of great stuff. There are two live DFA tracks from 1991 which presumably feature Rick, and Garth Hudson is also listed as a guest artist on the set though it's not clear which tracks he appears on.

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Lisa

Subject: For everybody, but Ben and Rod in particular

I was searching around for that quote too, and found this. Probably lots of you remember David Letterman. This is from 1983, when Levon was a no-show after being booked on The Late Show, leaving Letterman and his segment manager to fill a long gap. His actual appearance and interview starts at 12:10, and at 21.05 he does an extended Rag Mama Rag with Letterman's band (with young Paul Schaffer and Will Lee). The rest has been edited to his performances during the rest of the show with the band - Levon, 1983!

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Wallsend

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Peter V

Subject: Dr John

Dr John is on Toppermost. Do comment over there. My comment is kinda critical:

Dave, this has the best essay on GRIS GRIS I have read. Then you list SUCH A NIGHT from In The Right Place, and show the YouTube from The Last Waltz. I’d go for the live version, even if I wish he had done I Walk On Guilded Splinters on that night instead. And spelled it GILDED as Cher does. You say “I stopped pretty early on” but consistently you do stop early on in these essays, brilliant as they are on the early days, as if these guys who put in another 30 or 40 years recording never did anything significant again. He did TWENTY albums after 1978. Have you listened to any? I’m by no means a Dr John completist, but even so I have six excellent CDs from post 1998. I’m particularly fond of the duets album ‘N’Awlinz: Dis, Dat or D’Udda’ from 2004 which features so many NOLA artistes. How about Lay My Burden Down with Mavis Staples or I Ate Up The Apple Tree with Randy Newman? Anutha Zone is a powerful album and has him working with younger artists … Ki Ya Gris Gris sounds like a late Robbie Robertson track. Try Sweet Home New Orleans. With Creole Moon, I’d suggest the long jazzy title track or the funky Monkey & The Baboon. Add Duke Elegant the Duke Ellington album. The Locked Down album, produced by Dan Auerbach of The Black Keys not only has a currently interesting title and title track, but also sets Mac in some spacey settings. Then the benefit album, Sippiana Herricane has the Hurricane Suite and also Clean Water (by Bobby Charles). I haven’t got Skat-Dat-De-Dat, his last album which is a Louis Armstrong collection, but I heard good things about it.

Best to comment under mine if you agree that these guys do significant late career albums … as both Levon and Robbie did.

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Norm J

Subject: Smoky Robinson & Linda Ronstadt

I think one of the best performances you could ever watch. I hadn't seen this before.

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Mike Nomad

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Wallsend

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Peter V

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Dunc

Subject: The Guestbook

Hi Kevin, I came upon Jan’s website many years ago and found the information on it was great.

The guestbook, at that time could be very informative and stimulating too. What was unusual about the guestbook was that the writing, both by boys and girls, was of a good standard. I have learned a lot about many types of music on this guestbook. I liked when Norbert (Thanks, Norbert) ran the guestbook and posts could make me laugh.

The guestbook could get nasty back in the day and it closed down. For many years, the guestbook favoured Levon Helm and nasty things were said about Robbie Robertson, who I see as a hugely talented individual. The split on the guestbook was between people who attacked Robbie Robertson and those who just wanted fairness, not a Levon Helm/Robbie Robertson split. Jan being Levon’s friend did not help with the fairness, and I did not like when he referred to Robbie as Robertson.

However, there is not much you can do if somebody says something horrible in a post. I don’t understand how somebody can get very angry while sitting at a keyboard. I come from what the Americans would call the projects and am never frightened in case you have a wrong idea of me, but have tried to be courteous to everybody. I thought the GB was going to die a couple of years ago and made an effort to post frequently to keep it going. Some of the posts were banal, but with a few others the GB kept going.

Another negative thing about the GB was a type of rock snobbery, let’s call it Band snobbery, where certain ‘experts’ thought they knew it all and kept others out of conversations.

And a nice fault of the guestbook is that we are fans with typewriters, so sometimes we could have been more critical of releases by Band members, and I have bought a lot of Band related material...maybe too much.

But I have had a lot of pleasure from this guestbook, and have spent a month of my life in Ontario and three days on Band matters.

So never get upset, Kevin with negativity, just keep posting, because I enjoy your posts, Mate.

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Rod

Ben, yes I felt the 90's Band showed some promise. Jericho was good and I liked the first half of HoTH. Free Your Mind and a few others hinted at a new direction (a bit like The Well) but then it seemed to drop off pretty quickly.

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Norm J

Subject: Damn!!!

Now youze guys have gone and upset Pat.......

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brown eyed girl

KEVIN J! Ha, Ha, Ha! I will be a sport and present you with one of your all-time faves. Sheesh! European men tend to dig brunettes more, don't they? And you have family in Europe as I do! Oh Well, even Virgil has a thing for the ultimate bottled blonde....no not this one but the huge movie star. And Kevin!! Of course you needed to catch some fire to listen to KISS!! I would have needed hashish for sure. ;-D

Now you're reminding me of the times Rollie and I would discuss over hotmail's headphones....back in the day about our trips if you get my drift. I only had two but I do remember everything. Rollie was something else! He only ticked me off once and quickly apologized. Remember all his conspiracy theories? I really miss him. We're only about two years apart. He told me to tell Garth hello from his Clan......

Now for that weird smell...Now when I smell it in my hood I cannot believe it didn't bug me before. I never did anything illegal while in High School. We knew who did weed, who did acid, who liked to drink too much....Ok I did drink but the next day....Yiiiikes! It was never my thing but sure I experimented with Zambucca's all night while we heard Japanese Reggae. Perfect combo, right? Ha, ha.....Another time I was drinking Blueberry Tea all night long. Noooo....This tea has Ameretto....There's those almonds again. I do have a thing for them....They bring me back to my family's country where I used a hammer to crack them open as no nut cracker available....and the orange liqueur. Woooow! Next day worst hangover ever! At the Heat Wave Concert we mixed gin into our fave juice and nobody smelled anything different. So yeah, I know about alcohol. Now the beer you like to drink.....nope I only drank it when I was a poor student but never liked it. If....If.....I was desperate it would be either a Belgian beer or the Mexican one and you add your lime.....I wonder if Nitrous Oxide is killing my brain cells.....I'm forgetting little things these days. My ND says Noooooo......Stop eating anything with gluten.....I know....I know and therefore I eat at least Spelt bread which has less gluten.....I'm trying.....

Nooo it was the year before I saw Santana at Maple Leaf Gardens....now it's probably the Store where I became infected.....Noooo, it was the year Dylan came out with the great Blood On The Tracks! I was by the Grand River.....maybe I came home for a month and then said I cannot stay here so I went back to the big city.....In our town the one Record Store.....one.....rented a bus and off we went to see The Rolling Stones at an outdoor show in Buffalo, NY. Kevin!! The entire bus was smoking!! A cutie approached me and asked if I wanted to light up......Well.....It's probably two decades or more that I haven't.....I cannot believe that my PHD cousin told me that he had some smoke before he gave his dissertation....and it was in his second language! It's always fun sharing with you Kevin. And I miss Julie too......We almost met up in Simcoe.....She would have met Virgil.......LOL.

Good night everyone. Huge day tomorrow in Oklahoma!!!

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Kevin J

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brown eyed girl

"Levon Helm was in the right place at the right time. Campbell won three Grammys for producing Levon Helm’s final three CDs.
Levon Helm was in a relationship with Cathy Smith (1963 - 1964).

They had a daughter, the singer Amy Helm (born December 3, 1970). On Sunday night, Larry Campbell, the singer-guitarist who co-founded the Midnight Ramble Band with Amy Helm and her dad, takes the stage at Sweetwater Music Hall in Mill Valley, performing as a duo with his wife, singer-guitarist Teresa Williams. At the end of the post is a sentence that contains the first on-the-record discussion of why Robertson didn’t participate in The Grammys’ tribute to Levon, “As angry as I was that Levon’s wife kept Robbie Robertson off the stage (it’s a long and sad story of paranoia), Zac, Mavis, T Bone and the Mumfords did a wonderful version of ‘The Weight’, which was a fitting end to a great night of Americana.” Drummer Levon Helm dies of cancer aged 71 – a life in pictures Levon Helm, the revered multi-instrumentalist and singer for the group the Band, died on Thursday after a … He saw the birth of rock and roll and, though he was too much of a gentleman to say it, his role in helping to keep that rebellious child healthy was more than just instrumental. "

Dag! I am so appreciative that you took the time to find some info re Levon for me. The interview I am referring to is not in an article. It is actually Levon himself saying that he was cool with Robbie in 1993 and that every book has a hook....I forget the actual word he used. He says Robbie's doing well, the Reformed Band are doing well.....Once I post something I don't keep the link. I cannot even remember who was interviewing him. I've posted it once or twice and no reaction from anyone. I thought it was the most telling....I posted another interview from 1993 awhile ago but that's not the one either. Geeee....You'd think I'd keep at least one interview.....Nope.

Ben...I'm with Pat B...The Band were The Band and that's that! Sure different combos were fine at times but after their cover of "Atlantic City".......I was very disappointed. I had such high, high, high hopes. Yes I really did Ben. Just like you don't really dig Robbie's solo work, right? I do, I do, I do! It's all good Ben. I'm a real fan of yours here in this GB. You post away but you do it respectively without pushing people's buttons on purpose. Much respect. :-D

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brown eyed girl

Hi Norm. I sent email to say hello and to pass on email address to haso. Let me know if it doesn't work as others recently said one of my email addresses didn't work. I only walked 4 km today to start building up my endurance and fitness, but it was hot, hot, hot!!! I ended up at former Brunswick House where I spotted a painting of Neil Young.

Many heartfelt thanks again to you and so many of my brothers here in the GB and one sister....Lisa who really wanted to be my editor for my book about The Band GB. I want to put together a book on my Cuban photos from four trips with no writing. Anyway, Lisa had a great idea for the cover photo or back cover photo of The Band GB book...Check link! Lisa is absolutely brilliant!!!

Pat B...Thanks for your concern. I was very fortunate that my symptoms were really about my food sensitivities....I fell off the wagon since the Pandemic hit....or else I was asymptomatic 'cause if that grocery store where I was lined up in front of someone chugging on beer did not email me I would not have been tested. So everyone I am concerned that I may have infected someone unwillingly. Virgil's immune system is better than mine I guess as he was not infected! In praise of older men!

Kevin!!! I finally figured you out!!! You saw Santana in Montreal the exact same year that I saw them In Toronto!!! And our fave songs were the same...Europa and Samba Pa Ti....and....Uhhh....I will always be ahead of you by six years if you get my drift. ;-D

NUX...Yes send the links. I think you have my email. If not let me know if you connect with anyone here or I'll post addie here. My Capetown friend who sold house there and has home in our Beach area would most likely be interested as well. She has quite the background NUX...She was born in Ecuador and parents soon after divorced and they returned to England....no toilet! and then at the age of nine moved to Fishhoek, SA without her father. She assists the most vulnerable in Toronto with housing so she's just like her Ma.....always working to help others and work for social change. :-D

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Dag B.

Subject: Carly Simon & The Hawks

A brief clip of the 1966 recording of "Baby Let You Follow Down" from a 2005 BBC radio broadcast.

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Pat B

In Ben's defense, the final sextet was a reasonable facsimile, and it was certainly better than nothing--especially if you weren't around up to 1976. And believe me, the performance level in 1976 did not match 1969 by a fair amount. I go through the same thing with younger Who fans.

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Jon Lyness

Pat, had a feeling that last comment of Ben's would smoke you out. ;)

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Kevin J

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Pat B

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NUX

BROWN EYED GIRL:Howzit ekse!Ha ha ha you "Nut",thanks for the link and interesting back story.Hope you are well in these weird times.It has been really tough for me,I've gone from walking the Red Carpet and gathering awards to being retrenched.I still get work from Nat Geo and Smithsonian but only on contract.Feel so sorry for my kiddies and don't want them to notice my fear and uncertainty.Let me not moan to much here on the guestbook...you catch my drift lol.

Ja,I am on the guestbook all the time but have not been posting.I have been involved in quite a few South African music doccies and would love for you to see them.One is about the life of James Phillips and is very moving.You must tell me if you are keen to have a look,then I will send you the link.

Take care Band people,I wish I could meet you all!!!

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NUX

Subject: Richard Manuel Song

Hi there Band folk.A dear friend of mine(Errol Fellows) wrote these lyrics and e-mailed them to me.I sat down at the piano and played this,most of it is the original first take vocal and piano.Then added some overdubs.A little dark but a sincere tribute nonetheless.Hope everyone is coping with this new lifestyle and bizarre times.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Uhhh NUX...I am the only nut....Pistachio, Cashew, Tamari (not gluten free!) Almond....Your choice! My only excuse is that I don't drink coffee....If I did it would be a cappuccino. Italians only drink this in the morning!

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brown eyed girl

Nut...Howzit? So good to see you here! I cannot believe that it was in 2004/2005 that you spoke to someone ...maybe one of two daughters who were living there for a year in Fishhook, South Africa while I was out with my friend. It was the year my Ma passed and I cannot tell you what a refuge being with my friend and her family was at that time. I had to lose one day's pay and benefits in order to fly back one day late but my Principal said goooooo! So I did as it was once in a lifetime experience and with a South African. She is the one who came with me to see from Malawian musician Tony Bird at the Hotel Isabella in Toronto!!!!! Her Ma is something else. She volunteered in the Prison system. I really wanted to visit the prison where Nelson Mandela......At the time she couldn't wrap her head around that....but when the next visitors arrived from Toronto they did make the trip.....

One of the highlights was visiting Table Mountain!!!!!!! Can you believe that the late Jerry T from the GB was there at the same time? I hadn't met him yet so.....My friend actually lived in SA from 9 years old-University of Toronto where we met in a Sociology class as well as the friend who knew musician Pentii Glan from Louuuu Reed's band. The same year I met Mr. Maximus's partner in another Sociology course. It was in 1983 fourth year....probably one of the best years in school. And Nux....The year I was in SA for two weeks; I saw that Juluka was in town. We were about 45 minutes away in the suburb of Fishhoek. Jerry T's partner is a South African from Fishhook as well...small world, eh?....I met my partner Virgil the same year but he had already made plans to explore Guatemala. I convinced him to visit there rather than Mexico. He has a Guatemalan friend whose family set him up when he arrived....Virgil absolutely loved his stay in Central America.

Linked Tony Bird...Sorry Africa....1990.

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Ben

Rod, I agree with your comment regarding the feud. I'm always trying to get a better understanding of the events that happened after the last waltz. Information on this period is sketchy. It certainly doesn't look like the new book is going to be much help.

Of the books published so far, I think that the Hoskyn's book is was the most balanced. I have the original hardcover which covers the post last waltz period in only a few pages. There is an interesting comment from an unnamed source who said that when Levon needed money badly enough he would bury the hatch and reunite with Robbie. I have a revised paperback edition which has a few short extra sections covering Rick's death and an interview with Levon. I haven't read Hoskyn's book on Woodstock 'Small town talk'. Has anyone read it. Does it have good material on the Band not in the first book?

Also, regarding the reformed Band, I think it might be helpful to break the reformed Band into two entities. The 80's reformed Band was a touring act with many different permutations. The 90's version was a completely different beast. The 6 man lineup (Danko, Helm, Hudson, Weider, Ciarlante, Bell) became stable I believe sometime in 91. They recorded 3 albums, toured behind 2 of them, which enabled them to to integrate new material into their performances. They really became a hell of a live act. I know that I'm biased, because thus is the only version that I saw perform. But, I've listened to live shows from each period and really believe that the 90's Band on a good day between 93 and 96 playing a mix of new material as well as the favorites were leagues beyond the misshappen period with the Cates. I really feel that on their best day, they rivalled the OQ as a live act.

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Peter V

Subject: The Chalk Garden

Review of the 1964 film THE CHALK GARDEN. Starring Hayley Mills, Deborah Kerr, Edith Evans, John Mills, Felix Aymler, Elizabeth Sellars. This was a film version of the popular stage play from 8 years earlier which was described as the last and best of the drawing room comedy-thriller genre. The film loses most of the comedy. The stage play has been revived and as well as an overview of the film, there is a comparison between stage play (at Chichester in 2018) and the film, and on acting styles in general.

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NUX

Subject: Richard Manuel

Just a general question:Did the Richard Manuel movie/documentary ever get made?I am thinking of getting someone to tackle this much needed task.

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Bill M

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Midsummer music

This is about my memories on Midsummer music. It was important to me because Midsummer is a dionysian bacchanalia here in Nordic Countries. In Finland they'll be totally mad!

In early years we spent Midsummer in our cottage without running water or electricity by a lake near Russian border. There was a dancing hall across the lake, 7-8 kilometers. You could only here the _bass line_ over the water. Dancing hall was the scenery of sin: alcohol, knives, whores.

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Well, that was it! Some say that the only important in your life happened before your sixth birthday.

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Pat B

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Pat B

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Wallsend

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Bill M

Subject: White Cliffs of Dover

Here's a Beatles-era cover of the Vera Lynn (RIP) classic, "White Cliffs Of Dover", done by a Seattle band with a Canadian singer, Sir Walter and the Cupons. Sir Walter, who also recorded as Sir Walter Raleigh, is better known to most of us as Dewey Martin, Buffalo Springfield's drummer. The group's lead guitarist was Sneaky Pete Kleinow, who like Dewey spent time with the Dillards in LA before becoming hitting it 'big'.

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Pat B

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Wallsend

Ben, I checked out that cd you mentioned a few posts back, it sounds good.

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Norm J

Subject: Lost and lonely and blue.....and dumb

Evangalina. Seems you told Haso to get your e from me. When we moved a year ago we had to hook up to a new server. I wasn't smart enough to save all my contacts. I'm kinda old and dumb you see. I lost you baby!

If you want to do it this way, e mail me and I'll pass it on. Here's the secret code. Bere in mind......this is........ tsolum triple6 in digits at gee maildotcom.

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Rod

I find the fued discussions interesting. We know most of the facts about all else Band related but there's still alot of mystery about this - and that period from 78 to 83. I think Rick and Robbie were still talking about a Band album as late as 1980.

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Ben

Norm, I think you're really onto something when you describe your son's reaction to reading Levon's book. There is a real undercurrent of sadness and wasted opportunities in the story of the Band. I recall in 'Ain't in it for my health', when Billy Bob Thornton asks Levon a question about 'Stage Fright' and Levon responded something to the effect that the Band was really finished after the brown album. That really struck me as I feel that 'Stage Fright', while a step down frown brown, is still a very fine album. Don't get me started on 'Cahoots'. I am still in awe of what a mess and dissapointment that album is.

Wallsend, I think the reformed Band made some very fine music. It didn't really find an audience, but I think there 90's albums have many exceptional performances, particularly 'Jubliation'.

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Wallsend

Norm, yes, you have done well keeping quiet. I understand people not being interested in any of this stuff. It doesn't get me down because I don't take it that seriously.

I think the reformed Band could have done great things. It is a pity Levon did not come up with the idea of the Midnight Ramble much earlier. A guy I greatly respect is Stefan Grossman. I don't know how much money he made playing or running his music business but he has done so much to preserve traditional music. It is a pity our guys could not abandon the rock and roll lifestyle, live modestly and keep playing great music.

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Si

I'd like to think Levon reached out to Robbie and Robbie wanted to reciprocate the only way he could at that late hour. To be honest though I've always felt this stuff is none of my business but it does irk me a little that Robbie's motives for the visit get questioned even now (and I know that's not what Ben was saying, quite the opposite, I'm thinking more of journalists/bloggers/YT comments etc). That just doesn't seem right and besides, how would anyone know?

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Norm J

Subject: At the round table

Wallsend! you should be proud of me. I haven't said a word. By the way, I never watched the Simpsons but the other day on youtube I got to see the Captain. I can sound like that if you want me to. :-)

I'm in the same camp as Ray and Johnathan. I just don't see any point to this so called "fued" discussion. However the input of Kevin, Pat, BEG and a few others who take the time for some reflection on personal knowledge and honest opinion on information that is available, along with Dag have become some interesting reading. In everyone's (without exception) posts on this subject there is an underlying sadness always there. You can feel it. The good part is there has been no posts here with the bitterness and animosity and hate and insults. Good on all-of-yuz.

Some times it seems that people who are die hard fans and collectors just can't help but "have to have it." Then reading things that are untrue, hurtful and sad makes it seem that it just becomes a downer and leaves people with an empty unhappy feeling. I'll never forget my son Craig when he was at my place for Christmas with his family years ago. He sat down by the fire in the family room and read Levon's book. I happened to come in the room just as he was done. Craig is a real emotional guy. He threw the book across the room and kinda with tears in his eyes said. "I wish I never read it."

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Dag B.

Subject: Interview

BEG, is this the interview?

Helm is critical of both Robertson and director Scorcese in his autobiography (cowritten with Stephen Davis), although he admits his venom was embellished by the publishing house to sell copies. "I've got a lot more respect for Martin Scorcese than it would appear in this book," Helm admits in his slow, good ol' boy Southern drawl. And of his former partner Robertson, Helm doesn't believe any animosity still exists. "All that happened a long time ago," he says. "You've got to remember, too, that not every page of this book was written by yours truly. The animosity thing is certainly played up by the fellows at the book company, but it's not true. Robbie has never wanted to come back into The Band, and we've never wanted to try and talk him into coming back."

Link: Orange Coast Magazine, March 1994

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Kevin J

Thank you, Dunc. Ray Mizumura is on to something about how an ugliness of sprit projected from or on behalf of someone else can affect feelings. Sometimes I find the whole mess so disconcerting that it influences my time here or being away from here. It shouldn’t as I know that reflects some immaturity on my part but I just hate to see lies being spread about a band that has meant so much to me in my life.

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Pat B

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Dunc

Subject: Thanks

Thanks, Kevin. Excellent review. I’ll not be buying it.

I thought Testimony was a very interesting book.

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Kevin J

”In the fire, Levon and Sandy lost almost all of their possessions, along with many of Levon’s contracts and financial records. The insurance proceeds for the rebuilding of their home and Levon’s studio were $100,000 short of what was needed. They went into debt, and remortgaged their home. Conflicts over finances with management and professionals for the reunited Band eventually boiled over into litigation. Multiple lawsuits were filed against Levon, Sandy, Rick and Garth, leading to a default judgment eventually vacated as improper. In the meantime, Levon’s royalty checks, then his primary source of income, were seized to satisfy that judgment and have never been returned.”

Notice the key points being “conflicts with management and professionals for the REUNITED band..... and....royalty cheques seized to satisfy that judgement !

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brown eyed girl

For the record...I am done thinking or posting about the new bio. For others who want to engage that's cool. We need to hear different voices. For the long time posters who want to continue with the FFFF....that's cool too. I don't appreciate when someone tries to silence my voice so why would I do the same? I read everyone's posts as we all have something to offer. Just because no one responds to your posts; it doesn't necessarily mean that you didn't have an effect on them whether it be you made them reflect on something or you made them laugh or you made them get upset or maybe you just exposed them to some new music or you reminded them of yeah....That song was so great it brought me to the time......Especially now when we've been self-isoing.....For now all I have is my memories and yet time waits for no one.

I only enjoyed reading Hosky's book. I was in NYC with my Scottish housemate and his boyfriend. They had friends in NYC so sometimes we all hung out together and sometimes I went exploring on my own as the friend who let us stay in her apartment in the West Village was in Joisey for the week. I hadn't met Crabgrass yet....and his friend yet....She works for a Music Company. I took her to one of Garland Jeffreys' shows at the Bottom Line? Sheesh....I cannot remember.....Yiiiikes! and I no longer kept in touch with South American guy's family in the Bronx. Every night I would read Hoskyn's book. Both guys couldn't care less about The Band. Yes I want to read about their lives off stage. As Robbie said, it wasn't always about being on stage. They are just people like the rest of us with warts and sunshine....

I was so disappointed with Craig Harris's book...Even Levon's book with Davis... The book was lent to me by a colleague's partner. He ended up coming with me to the Silver Dollar to see The Barnburners. I was in the Nurses' Office at school and he overheard me talking to someone about The Band. He's a huge Levon fan. His partner wasn't interested in going to see Levon so he asked if he could join me. That's my life. I just start talking about The Band.....and things happen. Even when my brother wears The Band T-Shirt....which I gave him; someone always comes up to him on the street to chat about The Band. Ha, ha, ha....He doesn't even like The Band. He likes Dylan's painting on the T. It was too large for me so that's the only reason I gave it away. Virgil did wear it to Rick's Tribute in Simcoe but he doesn't like T's with drawings on it so next in line was my brother. Come to think of it now....I could have kept it as a night shirt. I guess I was in one of my moods....lol. I did find recently a store right around the corner from where Robbie lived by the Riverdale Library as he lived in Riverdale not Cabbagetown....linked article mentions Cabbagetown again.....Robbie....Robbie.... This shop will make T-shirts based on LP covers so I guess I will get another one made.

I finally bought the second edition of Levon's book as I was a completist at the time only because it was 5.00 at Trinity College's Book Sale at UofT. So I may post articles but I will no longer engage by sharing my opinions as I've posted many times about the FFFF. I think we can agree that life has never been fair for any of us. I will say for the last time, ha, ha....Levon was still cool with Robbie in 1993. I wish I had kept the interview where you see him saying that he was cool with Robbie and that Levon's book....well....There has to be a hook for selling books and it was the FFFF. Also, it doesn't have to be a tragedy when friendships end, does it? Sometimes values change, life circumstances change, sometimes things were said or done that you can one day forgive but never forget....Not everyone in our lives our meant to be with us along our journey forever. Be thankful for the time you shared together and as Robbie says..."When you find what's worth keeping, with a breath of kindness blow the rest away."

Out of the basement
Former Helm mate Robertson gives his Testimony
Philip Martin
Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
January 15, 2017

"In any case, Robertson grew rich off The Band's publishing royalties. He was free to pursue a career writing movie music or whatever he wanted. The rest of The Band had to work for a living. They had to tour, they had to record.

But the truth is, though they had some moments, The Band really wasn't The Band without Robertson either.

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brown eyed girl

A statement from Michael Pinsky, attorney for Levon Helm
Blogs.poughkeepsiejournal.com site
John Barry October 28, 2007

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brown eyed girl

The Hard-Won Lessons of Levon Helm's Life in the Record Business
Allen St. John
Forbes
Apr 19, 2012

"By sharing his hardships so publicly, Helm seemed to be sending a message to aspiring artists: make great music, but make sure you cover your a$$, and get a fair shake in the end."

Awwww Kevin..... :-D

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Ben

The one positive effect of this book is the discussion going on here. Lots of interesting points being made.

Pat, that must have been amazing to spend a day with Richard. I have a real clear picture of Robbie, Levon and Rick, but Richard and Garth are enigmas in many ways. Your comment about the Rick and Richard duo show being their best lost TLW show rings true. Their's a UK 2 disc set called 'Live at the Horesman Saloon 22.3.85' that I recently got from Amazon that really is fine. The Stripped down versions of Band classics is much better than the bloated Band/Cates shows from 83 and 84. Richard's 'Live at the Getaway' featuring Rick and Jim Weider on a few cuts also fits the bill.

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Dag B.

Maybe Albert had a similar agreement with The Band:

"When Grossman signed Janis Joplin and her four bandmates from Big Brother and the Holding Company in 1967, he told them he would not tolerate any intravenous drug use, and all five agreed to abide by the rule."

Wish there was a book on Grossman, preferably one written by someone without an agenda.

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Peter V

I’m just re-reading Dion’s autobiography for a future Toppermost and he is candid on what heroin did to him and his career in the 60s.

Dion’s latest, Blues With Friends, is an album to buy. Paul Simon, Van Morrison, Bruce Springsteen, Patty Scialfa, John Hammond Jnr. The man has friends.

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Wallsend

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Kevin.J

“The story of Robbie and Levon is much more complex than the bloggers and the press understand....I can tell you that for the years I was with Levon, from 1968 to 1974, they each shared a part of the other’s soul. One would start a sentence, pause, and the other would finish it. They had their own alphabet, their own clock, their own DNA, a Levon-Robbie double helix. When I called Robbie to say Levon was dying, he was stunned, shattered—he thought Levon had beaten the cancer. Robbie flew to New York to say goodbye. Amy, Donald and I were in the waiting room, and I don’t know what Robbie said to Levon for the long time he spent by his bedside. All I know is that there’s a side to this life-and-death song no one has heard. Levon wouldn’t want this bitterness to ramble on any longer.”

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Rod

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Jonathan Lyness

Ray, agree 100% re passing on the new book. As the man himself sang, take what you need, and leave the rest.

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Bill M

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Wallsend

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Ray Mizumura

Subject: The Band

Hello fellow Guestbookers.

I want to thank you for your interpretations, observations, and pure love for The Band.

This site is my reality check on the career and meaning of my favorite musicians.

One result of this is that I will pass on the new Levon Helm book, leaving myself open to criticism for not wanting to read it. What I've learned here is enough to confirm what I think is the right approach. Instead of spending time with this book, I will continue to listen to Levon Helm's music, mostly with but sometimes without The Band. I also enjoy his acting. The more controversial aspects of his post-Last Waltz career have never done me any good or added anything to my appreciation of him or The Band.

Again, thank you, friends.

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Pat B

Well, Garth and Rick were still cordial with the family after Albert's death. It would seem he still had some business relationship with them up to 1976. As Dylan proved, if The Band felt him onerous or deceitful, they could have successfully sued him.

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Bill M

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Kevin J

From a post in 2012 from the late great David P...."Music From Big Pink didn't receive gold certification (500,000 sales) until 2001, 33 years after its release."

The BAND album sold better but they were never anywhere near the biggest sellers of the day - Led Zeppelin likely sold more in a few months a than MFBP did in 35 years!

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Norm J

I should have read more. I just saw he was born in Chicago, but.......yeah raised in Denver.

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joe j

A mature rye.

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Pat B

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Norm J

Subject: Otis Taylor

Tell me Pat, have you ever played with Otis Taylor?.......sure like this groove.

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Kevin J

Robbie posted about Rick on RD's birthday a few years ago....and yes - he wrote it all by himself:

"Smile, Soul, Fretless, Pool shark, Radiant, Restless, Infinite. Rick Danko."

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Kevin J

Offbeat: The publishing is what your feud ultimately boils down to today ?

Levon Helm: Exactly. He and Albert get all the money, and the rest of us get all the leftovers, and he was supposed to be one of us, and was.

Notice no mention of songwriting as Levon had already made clear in other interviews that he was not a songwriter and was happy to just be a player.

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Kevin J

And thank you, Ben and Peter for your comments. Waiting for the book really is the better choice.

Ben....Levon was upset about all sorts of things and I don't doubt at all that management decisions with respect to certain investments that were made or not made are legitimate beefs. And anyone would be upset to be called into a meeting and told that the band was being "shut down" and later that the celebration of that shutdown - the "greatest rock music movie ever made" which had been hailed a masterpiece far and wide never made any money.....BUT one of the problems with the book is that no effort is made to investigate any of this.

While there may well also be legitimate issues with how the publishing money was accounted for, the author seems to have decided that the 'hook" needed to sell the book should rest on songwriting rather than the more complicated issue of publishing. She makes a faint attempt (one or two lines) to explain publishing but wrongfully concludes that it was up to the songwriter as to how and when publishing would be paid and wonders if Robbie's "benevolence" stopped in 1998 when Levon claims all payments ended. No discussion at all of Robbie buying back his publishing from Rick, Richard and Garth in 1976 as Levon has claimed and Robbie has confirmed or that Levon had maintained his 20% of Rick, Richard's and Robbie's publishing always.

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Bill M

I saw them Robbie-less with Richard; Jimmy Weider was there, but I don't remember if there was a second drummer. I suspect there was, as Levon always seemed to have a partner - his nephew Terry Cagle when I saw him with the Cates in maybe '79, and eventually Randy Ciarlante for the longest time. Something to do with too much hard drumming having damaged his hand(s), which must have hurt emotionally as well as physically.

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Rod

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Rod

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Wallsend

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Pat B

Richard Manuel, March 1985: I want to press ahead. I'm tired of dwellling in the past. We're well established in the history books and I don't want to continue doing what we've been doing for the last year and a half because we've done it to the point where we're dragging ourselves down...unless we come up with a new product.

RM: Well, I sobered up and I pay a lot closer attention when I realize what we threw away. We didn't really throw it away, we benched it and in just this last year and a half I've seen millions of dollars go by...doors open, but we haven't taken advantage of it. That's why I'm irked to the point of just saying, 'Fellas, this is it, I'm going on with my own career.' So I've been planning how to catapult this whole thing with myself into a position where I can remain occupied all the time...and have some work at all times, because it's the down time that drives me crazy. I get nuts when I'm not working. When there's nothing to look forward to, when there's no work. Not that I won't play with The Band, anytime, I'm there a thousand percent, whenever, whatever the Band is, 'cause it's certainly not one person. The Band is five people and anything less than four is just a taste of what the Band is.

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Pat B

Rod, exactly.

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Lisa

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Bill M

Ben: I can't imagine that John Simon would have been such a patsy as to do Big Brown when he hadn't even been paid for Big Pink. He was a studio veteran with a track record. Underpaid is another thing.

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Wallsend

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BONK

Does anyone know how many albums the original lineup sold up till 1990?

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brown eyed girl

Songwriters: Roger Frederick Cook / John E. Prine

You make me unlonely
I feel like the only
Person in the world
That ever had a boy like you

You make me feel wealthy
I almost look healthy
With you on my arm
Yeah together we could charm
This whole wide world

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brown eyed girl

Pat B... :-D

Ben... :-D

Rick Danko, Richard Manuel And Me - Written and Read by Hank Beukema

Rick Danko, Richard Manuel and me,
All died of a broken heart.
They left me here to sing their song
And act out the rest of the part.

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Pat B

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Peter V

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Ben

Pat, I'm no authority on recording contracts, but doesn't the performer get a separate royalty than the songwriter and producer? Isn't that an area where labels are able to use creative accounting to avoid paying the artist? Maybe that's an area where there was some malfeasance. Again, going back to John Simon. If he was never paid producer royalties for the first two albums until he agreed to work on TLW, I wonder what kind of unpaid performing royalties may have accumulated for the 5 guys.

Obviously songwriting was a major issue for the reformed Band. Levon was not a writer. Richard apparently did some writing with Terry Danko in the late 70's. I don't know how many songs or what the quality was. Rick had co-written a batch of songs for his solo album, I don't know if he had any in the can. I really wish that they would have hooked up with a younger writer, someone like Dave Alvin for material. But, as I wrote yesterday, they could have pretty easily recorded an album of covers so that they would have had an album to tour behind in 1983.

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Ben

Pat, I agree with most of your points. The Band played very little after 1971. They were completely inactive in 1972 and 1975, played 3 shows in 1973 and only toured in 1974 and 1976. So, for Robbie to talk about 8 years in the bars and 8 years in arenas in TLW is absurd. I also agree that Richard's issues were far more severe than Levon or Rick's. So, maybe the real reason that Levon brought the Cate Bros in for the reunion tour was to cover for Richard. Levon and Rick by most accounts enjoyed the road. And they played far more in the years after TLW.

Regarding contracts, well, Robbie obviously earned far more than the others as the primary songwriter. No argument there. He also would have earned the lions share of any cover versions. The biggest hit I believe was Joan Baez's atrocious version of 'Dixie'. He also earned a hefty paycheck for producing Neil Diamond's 'Beautiful Noise'and 'Love at the Greek'. By contrast, Levon produced 'The Muddy Waters Woodstock album' in the same period. The entire budget of that album was a fraction of Robbie's producer fee.

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Jed

I agree-a counterintuitive reality!

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Pat B

I think RR's vision was born out. The post-LW version played Chicago at the end of 1983 and sold about 3500 tickets. They never did that business again, playing 800-1000 capacity places like the Cubby Bear and the Park West, places I've played a lot and did similar business. They got some decent opening slots with the Dead and CSN, but releasing new music didn't result in an uptick in popularity. Jeez, they became regulars at the Lone Star in NY which is remarkable for a group that revolutionized music.

People definitely got fucked by bad contracts in the record industry. But if The Band got fucked, it means RR suffered the same fate as Levon and everyone else. Now if Levon is accusing RR of doing something behind his back in 1968--and Levon knew it at the time--a good lawyer would have settled that score quickly. If Levon knew at the time of TLW that songwriting was the key, why wasn't he the first to jump on the Warner Brothers offer? Why didn't he and the core 4 sit down and produce an album worthy of The Band in 1983 to tour behind with songwriting credits equally shared?

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Bill M

Peter V: Thanks for the link to the Dion song. Beautiful, as is the one that came on next, "New York Is My Home". I was a bit surprised to hear that Dion hadn't heard of James Brown by '62. Anyway, here's Rick singing Sam.

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Bill M

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Peter V

As I've said before, the Band - all five- collaborated on the "road warriors" myth and on the "conspiracy of silence" on Levon's two year absence. It did not fit the carefully constructed image in 1968. Go on to 1970, 1971. Not a mention of it. It took me years to work out they were very far from the hardest working guys in showbiz.

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Peter V

Subject: Song For Sam Cooke Dion

Link to the new Dion song, Song For Sam Cooke (Here in America) with Paul Simon. What an extraordinary singer Dion remains, and a great story song describing their double header tour in 1962, and Dion "walking in Memphis" with Sam Cooke. The violin is incredible. Song of the yer so far for me.

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Peter V

Subject: Live It Up!

Review added in the 60s Retrospective series, LIVE IT UP! (linked) from late 1963. I’m getting addicted to these pop exploitation films and this is another full plot review with many pictures so you won’t need to watch it. This focusses on a lad starting a group, David Hemmings. The lead singer is Heinz and the drummer is a young Steve Marriott. Most of the soundtrack is Joe Meek, and featuresThe Outlaws, Sounds Incorporated, Jennifer Moss, Patsy Ann Noble, Kenny Ball & His Jazzmen and a sweet Gene Vincent. The Outlaws included Ritchie Blackmore and Chas Hodges.

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Ben

Kevin, thanks for the detailed review of the book. It sounds less and less promising the more I hear about it, but I will pick it up when it comes out. If the book is as one dimensional as you and others have said, it really does a disservice to Levon and will certainly leading to more flaming of Robbie on social media.

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Ben

Wallsend, interesting point about screening items for Levon to sign, I was not aware of that practice. LHS did exclusively sell the 'Three of a Kind' box set, which was the first 3 Band albums with original mixes without bonus tracks. I picked this set up at the barn. I think it was 30 or 40 bucks, there was a signed version available for 100 bucks that I passed on.

Pat, I basically agree with your comments regarding the feud. There's no question that it started with Levon. That being said, I don't think Robbie is some above reproach figure who doesn't bare any responsibility for things going awry. I really am not a fan of the interview segments in TLW and of Robbie's comments. I'm paraphrasing now, but the '8 years playing bars and dives, 8 years playing arenas' is a real whopper. And of course his comments about the road being an impossible way of life, it took Janis, Elvis, yadda, yadda, yadda... I really think those comments really cemented the divide between Levon and Robbie. Those interviews were recorded after August, 1977 when Elvis died, shortly before Rick and Levon began touring to promtote their solo albums. Maybe I'm making too much of this, but to me those comments being made at that time (and being immortalised in the movie) are really significant and set Robbie far apart from his bandmates.

The other interesting thing to me is Robbie's comments to Dan Rather regarding the feud. He said he had a conversation with Levon around the time of the book and everything seemed okay, he said he never had across word with him during the years of the Band (that is impossible to believe).

And then to me the most significant revelation is when he talks about rushing to Levon's bedside and visiting with him right before he died. Well, that's a really personal story that many of us would not be sharing with the world. It's my understanding that Levon was either in a coma or unconscious at this point and had no idea that Robbie was there. It's not as if Robbie brought his guitar to the hospital and they sang 'the night they drove old dixie down' together for a final time. I guess Dan Rather isn't an avid Band fan as he didn't ask any follow up questions. My main question to Robbie would have been what was the last contact you had with him before this? When you heard that Levon had throat cancer in the late 90's did you reach out to him?, When you heard he was going through a bankruptcy and foreclosure did you reach out to him?. Levon's medical and financial issues were well publicized. It's not as if Robbie would have been unaware of these issues.

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Wallsend

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brown eyed girl

Kevin!!!! Alright Alright! Very impressive review of......I won't be buying it. I'm finally done done done. Brooke Sluder (Robbie tattoo) passed the torch onto me when I first started posting. You continue reviewing Kevin.I always love reading your posts. I cannot give anymore energy to this....I was even called a sycophant via one of Levon's people and gee....Robbie never even gave me a guitar pick. Boo Hoo..... ;-D

Last 10 brown eyed girl mix 4 since raccoons woke me up. Listening via Beats headphones since Virgil still in dreamland.....

Marvin Gaye...Keep Getting' It On
Laid Back...Sunshine Reggae...One of my classes performed this song at our Positive Vibrations Concert
Grover Washington Jr. (7.00 at Ontario Place) and Bill Withers...Just The Two Of Us
Greg Brown...Real Good Friend
George Harrison...Stuck Inside A Cloud
Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chitown's Chance the Rapper, Lil Wayne, DJ Khaled...I'm The One
Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers...The Best of Everything Alternate Version Extra Verse
Jose Feliciano...Cali Dreamin' Remastered
Mink DeVille...You Better Move On
Sixto Rodriguez...I Wonder

I wonder about the tears in children's eyes
And I wonder about the soldier that dies
I wonder will this hatred ever end
I wonder and worry my friend
I wonder, I wonder, wonder don't you?

I wonder how many times you been had
And I wonder how many dreams have gone bad
I wonder how many times you've had sex
And I wonder do you care who'll be next
I wonder I wonder, wonder I do

Hi Rod...I'm not finding your solo version of TTFTLW?

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Rod

dubdubdub dot youtube dot com/watch?v=ZFSICw90mLc

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Rod

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Kevin J

Just finished the Levon book and it really is as light on rigour as Pat B explained. Much more than that though is just how blatantly unfair and vicious it is in its treatment of Robbie Robertson. Think of every negative thing Levon has ever said about Robbie and it’s in there. Not even a hint of warmth or respect that everyone knows was there for most of The Hawks/The Band times. Heck, RR is even blamed for the pot bust back in the early 60”s. There are hundreds of examples throughout where the approach of “going out of your way” to provide a one-sided slant to a story is so evident it should make most people’s heads spin. A few cases in point:

- The author’s first mention of the songwriting debate is at the first album. Unable to find someone credible to comment on the songwriting on MFBP, like say the producer of the album, the author turns to David Clayton Thomas who claims the whole album got its start on Yonge Street and that Levon was the driving force behind the album. Other than that Dylan show at Massey Hall in 1966, the boys hadn’t been anywhere near Yonge Street in years ! But, hey, if you can find a name like DCT to back up your thesis – go for it. And Bill Avis, on the record in the past as confirming Robbie wrote the songs is quoted as saying Levon wrote songs and everything was written as a collaboration.

- Levon himself was very clear in an interview with NPR in 1993 stating “not that Robbie didn’t do a lot of the songwriting, most of it, in some spots. But at the same time, Richard did some good work, and I always thought that Garth and Rick and myself was there all the way…” In the book, the author uses that quote but leaves out the first part - the bit about Robbie doing most of the songwriting….the first of many quotes or stories used that are lifted and selectively edited.

- The only source the author uses to back up Robbie’s side of things is Johnathon Taplin and Robbie himself though such quotes are always followed by her taking parts of Robbie quotes from the past where he was always generous in his praise of Levon to make it seem like he was confirming Levon’s contribution to songwriting.

- Looking for any comment at all on songs like ‘It Makes no Difference” or “Acadian Driftwood” – forget it. Other than describing “Acadian Driftwood” as sumptuous, not a word about the writing of arguably the Band’s best song. That just wouldn’t fit with the thesis being presented.

- The author seems worked up about the credits on “Islands” as well stating ”although Robertson is listed as the dominant songwriter, it’s notable that Danko was first out of the gate with a solo recording providing proof that he was a composer…” As if his songwriting credits on Band albums hadn’t already established that. Wonder whether she thinks "All Things Must Pass" prove John and Paul were frauds.

- As we get to the Band reforming, she emphasizes that Robbie was not asked to participate. Levon himself has said that Rick Danko called Robbie and asked him to participate but this is never mentioned.

- We are then treated to Louie Hurwitz and Jim Weider gushing about what a tremendous songwriter Levon was and how he was just a “great co-writer of songs”. In the concluding description of Jericho that follows, the author notes that Levon received just two “co-writing” credits on the album. No further analysis or commentary is offered. Hilarious!

- The part of the book that just cements the ugliness of the authors intentions has to do with Rick Danko’s funeral. No context is provided. No mention that Rick’s family asked Robbie to deliver the eulogy…..no, no ,no as that would surely not be in keeping with the theme here. Instead, she writes “As he addressed the spirit of his former bandmate from the podium, Robbie drove home his innocence declaring “I wrote the words you sang”. A disgusting display of pettiness as anyone who read that eulogy know how heartfelt is was. Of course, the author spends more time making the case that Robbie was responsible for Rick’s death – so, of course she is twisted enough to think the man travelled from California to deliver a eulogy to a great friend just so he could prove his innocence ! She concludes the description of Rick by telling us he was back to serious drug taking at the time of his death ( something I hadn’t believed to be the case ), had lost his house and that he and his wife were living in a motel. Oh, and she adds ominously that a call went out to “Robertson” for help but no financial assistance was ever sent.

The author notes that she met Levon in 1996 while working on her biography of Muddy Waters. She loved him which is understandable. But , anyone looking for an honest overview of The Band's story won't find it with this book. It reads more like a game summary of a sporting event where quotes from all sorts of people are used to fill space. No analysis and no evidence of any sort of research. Jules Shear and his pulling of songs from the reformed The Band due to their insistence on having their names added to his compositions? Of course that is not here.....Songwriting credits on "The Stones I Throw" - dream on.....why Levon was fine with Rick and Richard credits but not Robbie's? not even touched on.....and if you have taken the time to find John Simon quotes, why not print the ones where he confirms that Robbie wrote the songs. Heck, the producer of MFBP and The Band albums just wrote a book himself where he confirms again that Robbie wrote the songs.

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brown eyed girl

Hi JQ...You can't change my mind about The Eagles. They bring me back to a time when I'd go to the school Library and put the headphones on and just try and get that peaceful easy feeling. I'm always in my head so I need a break sometimes! ;-D

As for nitrous oxide...Some people refer to it as laughing gas. Heck never made me laugh. I had a sports injury while playing broom ball, that's right broom ball....So I've had dental issues ever since. Even Sheryl Crow said that her dentist did a great job capping her front teeth. My dentist is a perfectionist as well. If the work isn't perfecto she'll send it back! So...I have a lot of sensitivities because of many surgeries and I need nitrous oxide even to have a dental cleaning....I am serious. We tried once when the tank was empty and I could not take the pain! When I breathe in nitrous oxide....I know when I am high as you know it just clicks in....Everything is so spacey. The real bonuses however is that she can clean as hard as she wants and I don't feel a thing.....also.....It's unbelievable.....Everything or anyone who is troubling me; I begin to look at them in different ways or I begin to realize that hey; they were mean because they are so unhappy with themselves....The only problem....well....being honest here....My tolerance is really high now. My dentist has to put it up full blast before I tell her....Ok you can start now! Luckily I only put this into my system four times a year or more if any dental issues. In my book From Chocolate To Morphine...It is addictive......

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brown eyed girl

Very first time....seeing Elvis sing Little Sister!

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brown eyed girl

vicki petrotta
5 years ago
"back up singer Terry and Bobbie were in the coaster also who are the back up singers here and way back i was with the drummer so i got to hear the rehearsals and it was so great, i remember one time i brought a big lunch of kentucky chicken for us all"

Hi Joe Frey...When I first heard Little Sister by Ry Cooder; I didn't even know that it was by Elvis Presley. Sheesh. I even watched Elvis movies back in the day with my Ma. Oh well....

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Pat B

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Wallsend

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Pat B

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Wallsend

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John D

Well said Ben. Well Said.

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JQ

BEG - Where would one find this?

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Joe Frey

Subject: Bop Till You Drop

BEG, Ry's version of Little Sister was always a favorite. I love the album where that track resides, Bop Till You Drop. I liked it so much that I sprung for the Japanese remaster. Joe

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brown eyed girl

So long ago
It's a certain time
It's a certain place
You touched my hand and you smiled
All the way back you held out your hand

If I hope and I pray
Ooh it might work out someday
If I live to see the seven wonders
I'll make a path to the rainbow's end
I'll never live to match the beauty again

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brown eyed girl

Last 10 from Playlist...I have so much more energy when I do not discuss the FFFFF. Just sayin'. I'm on no one's side now. I guess I'm getting old....er now..As far as anyone else discussing the FFFFF....no problem at all.

Tracy Chapman Live on Letterman...Stand By Me.
Paul Young...Every Time You Go Away
Ry Cooder...Little Sister
Sade...By Your Side (Nigerian Mom, British Dad)
Soundgarden...Fell On Black Days
Steppenwolf...Magic Carpet Ride
Stevie Nicks and Tom Petty...Stop Draggin' My Heart Around...In one interview Tom was discussing his former issues with anger. He was so filled with anger that he'd punch his fist into a wall....broke his hand. Mr. South American did that once too but he was lucky....Ganja was the best sedative for him....firewater....nooooo!
Fleetwood Mac featuring Stevie Nicks...Seven Wonders
Rod the Mod and Jeff Beck...People Get Ready
Tony Joe White...Polk Salad Annie

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Ben

Jed, Apology accepted. No problem. I think the discourse here is generally light years beyond what is currently happening on Band related fb groups. But, I wonder if that's a reflection more of fb or of fans of the Band.

My views on the issue have evolved over time. My view of Robbie's actions have mellowed quite a bit. I don't see him as a villain, I think he was much more interested in the business side of music than the others and he took care of himself. It's hard to fault a person for doing that. That being said, I wonder if Grossman and Capitol ripped them all off.

There's the oft repeated story of John Simon's production royalties from the first two Band albums magically appearing when Robbie asked him to work on TLW. I think that some of the issues that Levon would bring up at various times regarding Robbie, Capitol Records and the Band's (mis) management have often been conflated. I think there's likely some validity there, but I really think the fault lies much more with the management and label than with Robbie.

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brown eyed girl

Awwww....Here's Mick Taylor where we can see him in action. Love Billy Preston playing organ in both videos as well! Yes Yes!! :-D

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brown eyed girl

Another Rolling Stones song that Dylan wished he wrote..... :-D

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brown eyed girl

Martin.
"Mary was pushing paperwork in Albert Grossman's office in 1965, and would see Dylan regularly. It was Mary who told Dylan to "quit moping around" and go out to Jersey and see the Hawks during their residency at Tony Mart's. Martin was well acquainted with the Hawks, from her days hanging out in Yonge St. clubs in her hometown of Toronto, and had even introduced them to Dylan's first electric album when hanging out with them one night. Mary Martin went on to become an A&R master with several record labels as well as a talent manager; she has a legendary ear for talent and a brutally honest wit. Her work in bringing Dylan & the Hawks together was is an A&R coup unlike any other, and was just the first of many for Martin. She would go on to nurture the careers of Leonard Cohen, Van Morrison, Emmylou Harris, Rodney Crowell, Vince Gill, and many others. In 2009 she was the honoree of the Louise Scruggs Memorial Forum at the Country Music Hall of Fame for lifetime of work in the music industry. https://countrymusichalloffame.org/louise-scruggs/mary-martin#.W9Hsw-hKhPY Dylan didn't know the Hawks existed before Mary Martin clued him in, and this historic convergence would likely never have happened if not for her."

I see Nomadic Mike popped in yesterday! :-D

It's Aunt Sophie's 80th today! You have to be negative within the last two weeks re Covid-19 in order to see her in Long Term Care facility. I'm not immediate family so I will only be able to call her today. Everyone has a spirit...Hers is so huge that it takes over a room. That's ok as she knows how to make everyone feeeeel special.

I always found that ganja made me feeeeel paranoid and I had no sense of time. I was not a heavy smoker.....Oh and it made me eat junk food so wasn't good for me. As I've said many times the high I get from nitrous oxide....better as it helps me to think outside the box. Now that's it legal I lost interest. I cannot wait until next Tuesday.... ;-D

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Jed

I apologized for inadvertently using your screen name-my dumb error. And you are right about the feud appearing elsewhere. I was choosing to focus(not on you)but on a person who relishes in any chance he has to bring it up and then spread all the meanest gossip in an attempt to stimulate conversation.

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Peter V

Too fast! The same issue has a lengthy article on John Martn.

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Peter V

Beatles cover. Six page article on the new Dylan album by Richard Williams, one of my all-time favourite rock writers.

Also a long piece on "Get Back" the new Peter Jackson Beatles film.

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Ben

Jed, Ouch, that was pretty harsh. Well, I think it is highly relevant. Have you looked at any Band related group on fb? The feud alive and well there. It is still being promulgated by Levon's widow and others in his inner circle.

If it's fair game to talk about groupies, the clap, narcotics, addiction and any other personal topic than I think the feud is a relevant topic here. My views on it have evolved over the years. I have gone back and read through old interviews and am interested in the specifics of it. Was Levon pushed by Stephen Davis and the publisher to gin this up for publicity around his book? I don't know.

Robbie said in the recent Dan Rather interview that he was told that Levon was having mental health issues and in the recently linked Toronto Life magazine article, Robbie says that Levon was paranoid.

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Bill M

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Jed

My most sincere apologies,Ben-I was thinking of your post and typed your name instead of mine.I am so sorry for the error and wish I could fix it.

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Ben

ironically the feud can no longer exist except in the bored minds of the few living who have nothing better to do in their lives.Like clockwork one can predict who the same people are that will raise the topic here over and over just as it seems others have moved on.Perhaps if we don't respond to the usual suspects the temperature of the feud can be lowered?

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Jed

the research at harvard,which i consulted on, was debunked by a series of studies we've done.Wallsend-are you an expert in this area? Perhaps stay in your lane-i'm not gonna use this GB to debate a layman with limited access to relevant data.I've spent 45 years doing this work and research and Wallsend,i wouldn't disrespect the knowledge you have in your field by throwing my ignorance at your expertise.

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Peter V

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Jon Lyness

I do wish there were more to choose from, but the documentary Ain't In It For My Health is probably the most essential late-period-Levon source across any media.

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Wallsend

Just came across this article which is quite interesting: New York Slate: A Bob Dylan Forgery (Why to be careful when buying at auction)

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Ben

Wallsend, I think it just comes down to what a writer (and editor) choose to emphasize. So, far the major books on the Band (Hoskyns, Levon/Davis) have dealt overwhelmingly with the OQ, and have little on the years after the last waltz. Robbie's book goes up to the last waltz, he's working on a second book, so we don't know how much of it will deal with the Band in the years after TLW. It sounds like the Tooze book covers this period a bit more, but still primarily focuses on the OQ.

It still seems very sketchy what exactly prompted Levon to begin attacking Robbie in his book written in the early 90's. I would really like to see that issue fleshed out. So, Stephen Davis would be a key source of information. I would also like to see additional details of Rick and Richard's activities during the period after TLW. Apparently, Richard was performing and writing songs with Rick's brother, Terry Danko around L.A, in the late 70's. That's something that hasn't been covered in much detail. So, Terry Danko would be an obvious source for this period.

Rick played pretty extensively with Paul Butterfield from the late 70's until Butterfield's death in 86 or 87. That's a topic that hasn't been covered much. Rick was working on a second album for Arista in the late 70's before he was dropped by the label. Some of these recordings surfaced many years later on 'Cryin' Heart blues' this hasn't been covered in any of the books.

The other obvious topic is the financial problems that Levon, Rick and Garth had after TLW. This certainly seems to overlap with Levon's issues with Robbie. But, what about Rick and Garth. Were they all screwed by Albert Grossman and the bean counters at Capitol? I really don't know, but I would be very curious to find out.

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Wallsend

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Wallsend

"There is plenty of evidence for a connection between genetic endowment and addiction to alcohol and drugs. By analyzing patterns of inheritance, researchers have learned that heredity accounts for about half of the risk that a person will develop an addiction. Addiction is a medical illness and develops in the same way as many other illnesses. A person with some underlying genetic vulnerability is exposed to an environment that brings on the illness. In the case of drug and alcohol addiction, common environmental factors are stress and, of course, availability of the addictive substances."

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Ben

John, Peter Guralnick is an excellent writer. His two books on Elvis are phenomenal. That's really what I'm getting at, you take someone like Elvis, there have probably been hundreds of books written about him. They run the gamut from sugar coated books written while he was alive to hatchet jobs like the bodyguard book 'Elvis What Happened' and the Albert Goldman book 'Elvis' to books focused on every possible aspect of his life. But, there have only been a handful of serious books about him.

Gary Giddins is another top notch music writer, he is writing a multi-part biography of Bing Crosby. I read the first book, which was 400 or 500 pages and only covered the first 30 or so years of Bing's life.

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Ben

Pat, I hope you're wrong and a first rate writer takes on the whole story of the Band. The story has never been fully told and is still unfinished. Two of the principles are still alive. Robbie is presenting his version of the story with his book, documentary, Band re-issues and frequent interviews. Garth is in a nursing home with a go fund me page set up to raise money to pay for his medical/living expenses. That's quite a contrast. And Garth wasn't unique, both Levon and Rick had serious financial issues.

I have a much higher opinion of Levon's post last waltz work. The RCO All Stars studio album and the live album are absolutely first rate. Unfortunately, the album didn't sell and they didn't stay together long enough for a follow up. The two self titled solo albums are mediocre, but the album he made in between those two, 'American Son' is also first rate. So, two out of four isn't too bad.

Regarding the reformed Band, it was a real shame and missed opportunity that the Band reunited strictly as a touring act without a new album or even an EP . I think they could have easily done another 'Moondog Matinee' type of album of covers to promote in 1983. I really enjoy the 3 albums they recorded in the 90's, particlularly 'Jubilation'. Of course Levon's final two albums are excellent. It's interesting to me that Levon's final albums were so much more successful than the Band's 90's albums.

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Bill M

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Jed

Thanks for the nice call out! The Carla/Mick pairing is special!

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brown eyed girl

Carla Olson & Gene Clark - The Drifter

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brown eyed girl

Carla Olson & Mick Taylor - Within An Ace, Is The Lady Gone

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brown eyed girl

Richard Manuel: Life in The Band

“Richard Manuel was a whole show unto himself. He was hot. He was about the best singer I’d ever heard; most people said he reminded them of Ray Charles. He’d do those ballads, and the ladies would swoon. To me that became the highlight of our show.” – Levon Helm

"The Band has gone down in history as one of the greatest musical collectives in rock history. But one member who is frequently given short shrift for his contribution is Richard Manuel.

Because The Band had multiple vocalists, and other members Robbie Robertson and Levon Helm have made significant musical achievements since their breakup, history has perhaps not been as kind to Richard as he deserves. As he was in many ways the “lead” lead singer."

Also included articles on Karen Dalton and Phil Ochs, Townes Van Zandt, Michelle Phillips and more.....

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Jed

Sorry to be a pain in the ass but i’m an addiction shrink and researcher. There is no such thing as an addiction gene. There is no science behind that idea and no research to prove it’s a legitimate concept. My colleagues and I have written about meta studies on this matter and conducted our own research and there is no evidence of an addiction gene for heroin,alcohol or any other drugs.

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Bill M

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Jed

A few possible reasons: To be out there publicly in a big way the week his new album is released (Bob as the ultimate marketeer),the interviewer is someone he likes(The noted historian Doug Brinkley),to drive people nuts in attempting to define the meaning of his every word.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Dylan's interview in New York Times

Why does Bob Dylan give an interview to New York Times?

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BONK

I've often wondered, if during Levon's little sojourn from the rest of the boys, did he have a little taste of something that other people have stated, 'if god made anything better than heroin, he kept it for himself', and introduced the other two to it's false magic. After Big Pink and The Band albums, something was really wrong and even Ronnie noticed that Levon had changed. Just saying, so please don't start jumping all over me.

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John D

Ben, what a great suggestion to have Peter Guralnick write the definitive story of The Band. He is indeed one of my favourite authors.

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Bill M

Mike N: An interesting Dylan quote. The Book of Robbie provides guidance on what one can do after reaching the mountaintop - go back down and look up an old flame. Lake Charles in Louisiana is an example of a place to look, but it could be anywhere. Just don't give the flame the masterpiece.

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Wallsend

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Wallsend

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Pat B

Maybe it's a sign of age, but I've been reading a lot of band bio's. Two recent ones were on Van Halen and Bread. Yeah, I know. Of interest here are the business similarities. Normally a Bread bio would not interest me, but it came highly recommended as both encyclopedic and a deep dive into a music area of which I knew little. Three songwriters and their personal feuds when one of them becomes the star. Plus Larry Knechtel is an interesting character. VH is even more compelling. A bunch of high school pals who form a band and agree early on to share all writing and publishing money. Of course, things get angry when only two of the members do the work.

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Jon Lyness

Subject: Re: Masterpiece

That is.... surprisingly direct for Dylan? That's how I've always thought of the song.

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Mike Nomad

Interesting interview with Bob Dylan in today’s New York Times, including a reflection on “When I Paint My Masterpiece.” Asked, “What made you bring it back to the forefront of recent concerts?, Dylan replies: “I think this song has something to do with the classical world, something that’s out of reach. Someplace you’d like to be beyond your experience. Something that is so supreme and first rate that you could never come back down from the mountain. That you’ve achieved the unthinkable.

“That’s what the song tries to say, and you’d have to put it in that context. In saying that though, even if you do paint your masterpiece, what will you do then? Well, obviously you have to paint another masterpiece. So it could become some kind of never ending cycle, a trap of some kind. The song doesn’t say that though.”

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Norm J

Subject: Not bad for a blind white boy

I needed a little Jeff Healey this morning. The best part of the flick "Road House". This song not from Road House but a great sound for youtube.

Just shows how great Jeff really was playing and singing both.

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Peter V

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Ben

Wallsend, I saw some of the posts on the fb page. The one that struck me was Sandy helm's post that she wasn't interviewed for the book and wasn't getting any money. I think she actually said that Butch Dener and other friends of Levon in the Woodstock area were hoodwinked by the author....What I would really like is of a first rate music writer like Peter Guralnick or Mikal Gilmore or Greil Marcus wrote a book about the Band that covered the entire history from the Hawks days up to the present and gave all sides an equal voice.

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NMC

Pro_b_ably.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Same ol' s**t

It is not a clever thing to comment fellow gbers personalities but . . .

Bill M has posted, and not only once, that he is a Sartre man. I can't believe it! Bill M seems to be a balanced and down-to-the earth person. Sober also. - I am a Camus man. We shouldn't have anything in common. But we have. One of must know (Sooner or later) that this can't be correct.

This was not so bad. Not rock bottom in the history of gb (incl. Norbert's legacy gb) as these two posts about fellow gbers: "I have seen your bottom. It was so pale" and about a photo on my wife's website: "She has her mouth open as a cheap 24/24 café".

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Dunc

Subject: John Carter

Thanks again, Peter. Just found that Lesley worked a lot with John Carter on demos etc. That explains it. I wouldn’t Have got there if you hadn’t told me John Shakespeare and John Carter were the one person.

Need to get motivated now. Horrible day here.

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Dunc

Peter may be gone some time. Probably guarding the Baden Powell statue just now in Poole centre. Poole the main story in the UK yesterday.

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Dunc

Subject: Writing credits

John Shakespeare shares writing credits on seven of the songs on Poor Cow. Is he responsible for sourcing the music in the film? Or is it about getting money? Thanks,Peter.

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Dunc

Subject: Lesley Duncan

Thanks very much, Peter. I didn’t know that about the Ivy League member. Over the last two or three years, I have become very interested in Lesley Duncan, and am now going to do a Toppermost on her. Some of the questions I have been asking you lately relate to my interest in her, for example about ‘Hutch’.

Her story is amazing. She and her brother, Jimmy who went on to manage The Pretty Things moved to London and were taken on as song writers. There was a link with Dundee. I’m still tracing the development of popular Scottish music and she wrote a great song for the Dundee band The Poor Souls’ called ‘When My Baby Cries’ which is a very good Song. Hi Bill M. When making demos, they discovered that she was a really good singer, and she released about 12 singles from the early sixties onwards. Her excellent singing was recognised, and it was incredible the number of records she appeared on as a session singer often with Kiki Dee, Madeleine Bell, and even Dusty Springfield. She was a backing singer for Dusty and you see her on the BBC performances on YouTube. She appears on many songs and albums from Dark Side of the Moon to Everlasting Love.

Love Song has been recorded by over 160 artists. I think it is brilliant. You’ll know that your article on Anglicana spurred me on to revisit and visit many English artists, she being one of them.

She was always destined to become a singer songwriter and produced critically acclaimed albums, but never got a hit album. Give the two albums I sent you a spin. It’s Elton on piano and it’s brilliant English musicianship, and a bit of Band influence? I think the albums are ahead of their time.

I had heard that she had written a song for the Swinging Blue Jeans, but was getting nowhere with finding it, until yesterday. I think the five writers in brackets ensures that everybody gets some money for the song, which I learned from you on this site many years ago. I was wondering how songs were selected for Poor Cow. The guy Shakespeare seems to have something to do with it? Maybe?

Thanks for answering questions, Peter.

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Wallsend

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Norm J

Subject: Racial

On the news yesterday I was kind of floored to hear that Walmart was changing one policy in their stores in the south. The cosmetic departments for white and black were separate and the section for black folks every thing was always locked up. Some of you down there may have known of this but I never heard of it before.

This reminded me how not very many years ago, there were many products in the grocery stores here that contained alcohol that were always locked away. You had to ask for them like they do with cigarettes now. There were those of the native folk who were very alcoholic (created by the white man). There were many things in the store, (particularly in aerosol cans) that were always being swiped out of the stores.

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Ben

I don't do e-books, so I won't be reading the Sandra Tooze book until it comes out in August. I read the Daily Mail article linked on the what's New page and found that to be a barely coherent, very sensationalistic jumble. Based on the comments here, I don't have high hopes for the book, but I will reserve judgement until I get my hands on it.

Regarding the drug issue, well, Levon addressed this in the Stephen Davis book in the early 90's. So, it was no secret. The emphasis that is placed on it, is entirely subjective to the discretion of the author. Even within the Band, I think that Levon (and Rick) were functioning much better than Richard. I base that primarily on their activities between the last waltz and the band's reunion in 1983.

I also think it's important to take the behaviour of their contemporaries during that period. Drugs and groupies were pretty commmon hobbies of rock musicians during the 60's and 70's. It doesn't really change my view of these guys.

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Norm J

Subject: Rough and Rowdy Ways

Regarding you post Dag. I expect Dylan does and perhaps you as well know Jimmy Rogers song. I have linked here. When we were kids our father played guitar and he and a few others did small gigs here and there on the islands of our coast where we grew up. (Much like Norway).

Our fathers hero back then was Jimmy Rogers. There are not many of those Mississippi Delta Blues songs my older brothers and I don't know.

On the subject of racial problems the sort of thing that Dylan talks about don't go away. The problems in the first nation church run schools are still being faced in court and our governments both provincial and federally here.

Still love all that old Jimmy Rogers music.

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Peter V

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Norm J

Subject: In explanation

Aaaw! I was just giving you the gears Evangalina. You gotta start writing slower...I can't read that fast. Some where back there (I'll never find it again) you said something and then corrected "yourself". It reminded me of a time when I last ever went for any kind of schooling.

The company I worked for when I was in my twenties sent us off to a college seminar for several days teaching us (I was a forman) management skills. One professor from a University in the USA, (his name was Terry and I can't remember his last name). When he was lecturing us I noticed that he was just talking at high speed. In conclusion he remarked. Some of you may have noticed I have been talking as fast as I could. I think he said about 400 words a minute. But you all can listen at over 800 words a minute. The point being you listen to a little of what I say then go off on your own thoughts then you listen again for a little so that you actually listen about ten seconds out of every minute I speak. Your retention of what I'm saying is about 25 percent. After 2 weeks it's about 25 percent of that.

His whole point was when you are giving instruction to your crew you use as few words as possible to get your point across to help them remember what you have said. He had a lot of good ideas (I thought). I believe in spending the time to listen to what he had to say helped me a lot because just about all my life has been managing crews. How often do you hear "How many times do I have to tell you!" Well if you explained it right the first time only once.

You wouldn't have wanted me in your class. Every time your back was turned I'd be throwing paper planes. :-)

Anywa y this professor Terry that was his favourite expression. Withhold evaluation until comprehension is complete. Basically don't start giving any one shit until you know what in hell yer talking about.

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Dag B.

Subject: New Bob Dylan interview

In the New York Times today.

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Dunc

Subject: Much appreciated Peter the V

Thanks, Peter. That’s a great help. I wasn’t getting that list through googling.

The song is ‘Something’s Coming Along’ which is written by Lesley Duncan and others.

I’ve now found the Swinging Blue Jeans doing it. It’s a decent song and by the sound of it, perhaps written especially for the film? Could that have been the case? How could I find this out?

Anyway, really enjoyed your review. When I saw the film, I was relatively young, and thought I was cool having seen it.

Many thanks.

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brown eyed girl

Yay Jed's here! We need more voices here or else the regulars are going on strike! In case you haven't noticed I'm just the heavenly messenger. I like to search for The Band related articles and many other groups as I'm a music fan foremost...but that doesn't mean I agree with the content or critiques. Just sayin'.

Perfect Inspiration: Levon Helm
Includes many articles within this article including Steve Jordan's interview with Levon....In case you missed it or just want to reread as you're a Super The Band Fan!

The Department of Tangents
Conversations About Comedy, Music, and Horror ETC
Nick Zaino

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Jed

To think about comparing RR’s guitar playing with Duane Allman is comparing apple and oranges. Would we compare Bing Crosby(focus on the song) to Coltrane or Miles? Two very different genres of music-the song vs. improvisation. Louie Armstrong as compared to Charlie Parker? Both great players but totally different intent. Just a thought.

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brown eyed girl

Helm in particular: "I wasn't made to be booed," he writes in his 1993 autobiography This Wheel's on Fire. "I could look at it and find it kind of funny [...] but the whole booing thing became heartbreaking, considering the effort Bob was putting out and how easy it would have been for him to play it safe. I was starting to get real pissed off. It was better for me not to be part of that."

After leaving the group, Helm bummed around Mexico, Florida, and New Orleans before getting a job as a deckhand on an oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico. That might have ended his career with the Hawks had Dylan not crashed his motorcycle and retreated from the spotlight himself. Dylan and the remaining Hawks holed up in Woodstock, New York, where they began writing, playing, and recording casually, with little regard for commercial or live prospects. Helm might have missed the opportunity to play with the Hawks on Dylan's 1966 double album Blonde on Blonde, but one phone call from Garth Hudson summoned him back when the Hawks, now known as the Crackers, were ready to record.

Following his death at age 71, a look at the Band drummer's genre-defining voice.\

Stephen M. Deusner
Pitchfork
APRIL 23 2012

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Peter V

Subject: Poor Cow OST

Dunc: No Swinging Blue Jeans in my recall, but I've linked the IMDB page with the full soundtrack list … Donovan, Ivy League, Flowerpot Men, Lovin' Spoonful but no sign of Swingin' Blue Jeans.

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brown eyed girl

APR 22, 2012

"Chuck Colson, Levon Helm: Different Men, Similar Lessons

This week, two iconic figures of American culture, both of whom made their marks in the 1970s, died. Chuck Colson was a powerful political operative, convicted felon in the Watergate scandal, and then a leading force in the evangelical church. Levon Helm grew up in Turkey Scratch, Arkansas; played various – and “fused” – forms of country, folk, blues, and gospel music; was a major member of “The Band” that backed Bob Dylan; and became an inspiration to two generations of singers and songwriters.

There is no case to be made for “ideological bookends,” or the irony of two enemies in the culture wars: that is not the fabric I wish to weave. These two men did not face off 40 years ago; Levon, for instance, was not even a part of any major protest movement in the pop music of his day, otherwise a common association.

The lives of these two men, different as they were, offer, I think, powerful lessons for countrymen they leave behind. Their names were seldom paired in a sentence before this week, but should be in a certain way.

They showed us that how you live is important. But how you die is more important."

Hey Westie! I'm not quite catching your drift. I'm a little slow at times. It's only day four of no longer carrying the Virus ya know. ;-D

Kevin J! Are you out on the road again or just working in town?

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brown eyed girl

"Robertson's guitar solos are short and sweet, little bursts of riffs rather than pealing, twisting runs. (Compare his economical work with that of Duane Allman and you might understand why Eric Clapton once aspired to become a member of The Band.)

Helm -- famously described by Jon Carroll as "the only drummer who can make you cry" -- favored loping, ragged beats that evoked the smell of blood and cordite.

There's an appealing, jug band-style looseness to the record; only the sonic fidelity argues against the songs being recorded in the 1930s. But it's not nostalgic. It's timeless."

The Band plays on: In the turbulent year of 1968, Arkansan Levon Helm and four buddies released perhaps the best debut album of all time
Philip Martin
August 26, 2018

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brown eyed girl

Lobby Cards for TLW

Milestones For Levon Helm

"Briefly left band after reported disagreement? with Dylan; spent hiatus working on off-shore oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico."

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brown eyed girl

Bill M! You told me that you are from Pickering!! Or did NB tell me? Or you moved? Green-eyed girl was actually from Guildwood so not sure if she met the boyzzz in Scarborough because they wanted to attend an Alternative School...You met her at Jeff Healey's of course. Some other shows...She also came with me to the Silver Dollar to see Johnnie Johnson and The Weber Brothers. She met Coby from the GB in the restroom. She told Coby to talk to me as she didn't know the music that I did......lol.....and that's how we met. And she came with me to The Horseshoe Tavern to see Blackie and The Rodeo Kings with Richard Bell...Garth was supposed to have been there? Was this the show I ran into John Donabie and son? Her X is/was a Toronto musician who played in a band as well. Back in the day they would rent basement halls and have Mod nights. She told me that they met Paul Weller. Not sure how? It is her X whose grandfather...College at University of Toronto is named after him.....

I met her at the Institute of Child Study. At that time it was the only two year teaching program. We were part of a special group as only 38 students were accepted into the program. You had to have a certain grade average and two references from someone who knew your academic work and someone who knew your work with children. Green-eyed girl and I also had a part-time summer job at the Art Gallery Of Ontario and I continued there during our second school year. I actually had a couple of jobs as student loan, grant and bursary wasn't enough.....Anyway, we ran into Andrew Cash at a restaurant once at Yonge and Joseph Street which is no longer there and we saw L'Etranger perform...somewhere....It was the 80's....She also knows some of the boyzzz in The Skydiggers who went to North Toronto high school. One of my co-workers also attended the same school and knew them. Toronto isn't such a large city sometimes...Just like Virgil the Ontario Scholar who went to school and somehow became friendly with the guitarist from Triumph Rik Emmett.

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brown eyed girl

The Gene Krupa story full movie.
Highly recommended!!!!!

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Wallsend

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Dunc

Subject: Poor Cow

Hi Peter, I enjoyed reading a review of Poor Cow yesterday. Do you know if there is a song by the Swinging Blue Jeans in the film? Thank you.

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Peter V

Subject: Just For You / Disk-O-Tek Holiday

Review added of JUST FOR YOU (1964) (linked) The film that explains the exploitation in budget pop exploitation film. Cheap sets. Dreadful DJ links from Sam Costa (Thank goodness they didn’t engage Jimmy Saville). All mimed stuff. Not an actual performance on there. Its main virtue is to demonstrate just how good A Hard Day’s Night was at the same time. I thought it would be an exercise in early pop video, but it’s woefully unimaginative. The two biggest stars to emerge, Jon Anderson and Mike d’Abo, manage to conceal any sign whatsoever of their future abilities and talent. The best performances were a surprise … Al Saxon and Louise Cordet for me. I’ve done a cynical review with lots of pictures. It was retitled Disk-O-Tek Holiday in the USA and several clips were replaced by US artistes..

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Peter V

A further thought, Robbie describes seeing Levon off from Washington DC. Was he on his way to the station? What happened to his drums? They would be in an equipment truck, I’d guess, and possibly even already on their way to NYC for recording. Was it just a simple shake hands and tearful goodbye? In practical terms, the sensible scenario would be rent a car, see the road crew and get your drums back, then drive them to Arkansas. They’re not an easy thing to send on, especially in those days. Walking away from your instrument would be unusual – unless (say) Dylan had rented a kit in for the tour along with amps. Sources have discussed the amps being more powerful than normal on the tour, so it doesn’t sound like The Hawks normal stage gear. But drums are usually more personal.

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Bill M

BEG: Grade 13 French class at my school (in Scarborough) entailed reading and discussing Camus' "L'Etranger" for an entire semester. For me an influential book. And I really liked the band "L'Etranger", especially the first LP (the white one). I got to tell that to group leader Andrew Cash as we headed up on the same escalator after a conference. He'd become an effective Member of Parliament by then, but not effective enough to get himself re-elected, unfortunately. His political mentor, L'Etranger bassist Charlie Angus, is one of the finest MPs in the country and his been in Parliament for close to 20 years.

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brown eyed girl

"Good times chatting with James Maddock today on ‘Come To Where I’m From’ we covered socialism versus capitalism, saying no to Macca, magical thinking versus pragmatism and how wildly wonderful Judee Sill is. Plus a bunch of other stuff. Check it out!! On all the places podcasts come through and watch us on the Joseph Arthur YouTube page. Keep swinging! #podcasts #jamesmaddock #josepharthur #singersongwriter

James Maddock plays guitar on one of my fave Garland Jeffreys tracks...Any Rain...which I have previously posted btw.

10:00 Gene Krupa Story tonight.

Good Night All!

We live as we dream
Alone
Unknown

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Norm J

BEG, I was talking to the Dali Lama the other day he told me to give you this message............With hold evaluation until comprehension is complete.

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brown eyed girl

Meet Mr. Yorkville...Robbie's Girl

She lives in Toronto (Rosedale hood) and has a home in Cali.

Bill M...I forgot to say that I don't remember where I saw my previous quote by Camus. A friend made a book for me to write my poetry and then I decided to include any meaningful poems, mantras, writings, lines in songs...that come into my orbit. All these quotes/writings are in this book.

We were not born in isolation but sometimes it seems that way.
Unknown

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brown eyed girl

The award was presented by Robbie Robertson and Janet Zuccarini, who spoke highly of the couple and attributed their relationship to an introduction made by Diane Bald and Michael Budman. On another site Robbie refers to Janet as his sweetheart. Janet refers to Robbie as her soulmate.

Bill M...Yiiiikes! Although I was really feeling great today; my brain is still fried. I posted a quote by Camus and yet my brain was saying Sartre, Satre, Satre. Anyway, I've only read L'Etranger as green eyed girl's friends were in the band L'Etranger. They met at an alternative school in Scarborough where the Barenaked Ladies, The Weekend......are from. The book that I could not wrap my head around was by James Joyce...The Portrait Of The Artist As A Young Man. Watch the posts tomorrow morning or anytime after 3:30 AM and Peter V will say that he was able to read it. At around the same time or earlier Kevin J will waltz in as well. As for feeling irie today I walked to the Danforth with my music on shuffle and just enjoyed the rays of sunlight and no drama whatsoever! ;-D

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Bill M

BEG: The quote you quoted must the most positive thing the guy ever said. So positive that it's almost spiritual - which you'd think would have been anathema to his existential principles. (I line up behind Sartre's basic interpretation; certainly not Camus'.)

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brown eyed girl

From the original protest songs of the civil rights movement to the charity singles raising money for those in need, for decades musicians have inspired change through their songs.

Here are our top 10 songs to inspire you to change the world for the better.

If you walk in front of me, I fear to not follow
If you walk behind me, I fear to not lead
If you walk beside me, you and I have nothing to fear

Albert Camus

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brown eyed girl

"Please tune in on May 26th which would have been Lee's 80th birthday to hear Sandra B Tooze talk about Levon and her new book. Both Dad and I are amongst many of Levon's family and close friends in this book. Please spread the word if you can. Jerome Levon Avis"

Check out Sandra Tooze book talk on Levon.

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brown eyed girl

Sandra B. Tooze
Levon Helm: From Down in the Delta to the Birth of The Band and Beyond

Sandra Tooze, author of the acclaimed biography, Muddy Waters: The Mojo Man, turns to Levon Helm in this biography of a talented, often tragic musician in the era that saw the convergence of blues, country and R&B.

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Peter V

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brown eyed girl

I guess we missed this one?

"May 26 is the 80th anniversary of the birth of Levon Helm!
Join Sandra B Tooze in her live stream event at Canada Performs as she presents my biography of the great musician

-- LEVON: FROM DOWN IN THE DELTA TO THE BIRTH OF THE BAND AND BEYOND.

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brown eyed girl

Apr 28, 2020 3:20pm PT
Alanis Morissette: Nearly Every Woman in Music Has Been ‘Assaulted, Harassed, Raped’

By Ellise ShaferWith her iconic breakthrough record “Jagged Little Pill” celebrating its 25th anniversary in June, Morissette — who began her career as a teen pop star — said that the “female rage” she famously exhibited in the album is needed now more than ever.

“Female rage gets such a bad rap, but it’s part of being human,” Morissette said. “Not punching someone in the face, but anger channelled into activism or — heaven forbid — raising your voice, or saying no, or protecting your kids, or being a feminist.”

Explaining that she was subject to exploitation, financial undermining and sexual abuse starting at the age of three, Morissette was vocal about the importance of women standing up for themselves within their own timeframe, and called out the stigma behind “waiting” to open up about abuse.

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brown eyed girl

Hedley allegations (degrading his groupies) put spotlight on music industry in wake of #MeToo

​"Auf der Maur (Hole and Smashing Pumpkins)...didn't comment on the Hedley allegations, but said she's observed from afar those so-called rock 'n' roll clichés, although she herself has never experienced them. By the time the Canadian expat began touring in the '90s, she said, the more overt sexism of the '70s and '80s seemed to be dying off, at least in her own tight-knit alternative scene.

"There was none of that at Lollapalooza. [Bands and artists including] Pavement, Rage Against the Machine, Beck, Sonic Youth — none of us would do any such things," she said by email, before elaborating further by phone."

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JQ

In the 50’s in LA there was a TV show called Home Town Jamboree and Spade Cooley was a regular performer, maybe even a host. He was a great musician and composer, along the lines of Bob Wills. I was just a kid but I do recall that murder and the gory details; I think it shook up our house. Merle Travis (another druggie and wife beater) was on that show regularly too. The 1950’s country music scene in LA I think rivaled Nashville then.

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Lisa

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Lisa

One of the points about Cathy was that she was so young. I've always found it kind of interesting that the rock world has escaped largely unscathed by the MeToo movement. Bet there was a certain amount of quaking in boots when that started though.

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Ben

Norm, Then I guess I do have the book you were referring to. There's a long section in it about rockabilly and Warren Smith. Good stuff. There are so many stories about Jerry Lee. It really is amazing that he is alive. I believe he recorded a duet with Robbie several years ago on one of his last albums.

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Norm J

Subject: Spade Cooley

Direct quotes from the book Ben (On the evening of April 3/1961 he (cooley) arrived at his home in Willow Springs about 85 miles north of LA. He had been drinking and eating pills. There was an argument. Spade began beating his wife Ella Mae. He forced his daughter to sit. "You are going to watch me kill her he said.") I won't write the description of it here.

The things Jerry Lee has done. Shooting his bass player in the chest. Came to his office and forgot his key. Shot 14 shots in the door and walked thru' it. A journalist guy was interviewing him at a gig. The guy said something he didn't like. He bust a rye bottle, jumped over the table and stuck it in his neck. My favourite is a thing that happens to a lot of us in bars. Some girl likes your music so some drunk boy friend wants to beat you up. On a break some real drunk cowboy comes staggering over to Jerry Lee and says y'know my old lady just loves you and your music. I think yer a pile of shit so y'know what I did? All yer records she has. I smashed every one of 'em. Jerry Lee says GOOD! now she's gotta go and buy 'em all over again.

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Ben

Norm, I haven't read that particular book, what I was thinking of was the incident with one of Jerry Lee's wives who died mysteriously at his house in the 80's. There was a big Rolling stone article on the story and there was a quote from the sheriff saying something to the effect that Jerry Lee could do what ever he wants without being charged in the state of Mississippi. Kind of puts a different spin on his nickname.

There was an infamous case of a western swing star from the 50's who brutally murdered his wife, his name was Spade Cooley. At least he went to jail for his crime.

Then of course there are plenty of musicians who have reputations as being very difficult and unpleasant people to work with. I'm thinking of people like Van Morrison and Paul Simon. I read Dr. John's auto-biography many years ago, and he had some choice comments about working with Van on 'A Period of Transition'. Apparently, Van was extremely difficult to work, firing Ray Parker, Jr for some stupid reason which forced the Doctor to play guitar on the sessions and I seem to remember the Doctor suggesting that if he didn't respect Van's musical talents so much he would have likely cut him. literally cut him with a knife.

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brown eyed girl

Warning...brown eyed girl is on a roll again so if not interested just scroll on by, scroll on by.....

Cathy Smith...Some aspects of her life I cannot relate to and I don't condone. I was fortunate that my Ma always stressed education. Not surprising as she skipped two grades herself. So no matter what experimentations in my life; I always had my education to fall back on and was never dependent on anyone. Cathy Smith's life was much more than accommodating men...Also we are referring to the late fifties and sixties here. It wasn't until the mid-seventies that women were really exposed to many possibilities....just as the Black Lives Matter movement is about blacks just want the same rights and respect and opportunities as their white brothers...Not more rights, not more respect, not more opportunities. Women wanted the same rights and respect and opportunities as the men in their families and the men in the world at large. However, as Alexis de Tocqueville has taught us...How can we have equality of opportunity when we don't have equality of condition??????? I'm also very frustrated that even my own brother who is the same age as Virgil is so surprised when.....The last time I saw him before the Pandemic it happened again where he reminded me of Niccolò Machiavelli and I called him on it and his response....How do you know about him? Uhhhh....My minor was in Political Science that's how I know about him. Or my PHD cousin...If I comment on something he questions it whereas if my brother says the same thing...Oh it must be true. It is true that my brother is super smart you know the kind....You ask him a question about history of any kind and he doesn't reply with a one line answer oh no you get a whole treatise on the topic. It's absolutely amazing how he just has to hear or see info once and it's locked in forever. I have different intelligences.....So then I asked him did you tell our cousin that I'm stupid or something as my brother always told me that when we were growing up.....I see this look on my brother's face like oh, oh....She's calling me out on something....but I was surprised as he said, no I just told him that you're annoying at times. I find myself annoying too so I was cool with his assessment.....;-D

In high school the boyzzz took industrial arts and the girls learned all about home economics. My teacher told us that even though we might want to have dreams and venture out into the world outside the home that we still needed to know how to cook, sew, take care of children. Well, in my life the two men I live and lived with....Excellent cooks and could take care of a household while I was the main earner. They earned money outside the home as well but their world was more precarious as one was in construction and one is a photographer/teacher. My work was always stable and came with benefits and pension. With Cathy Smith...The boyzzz loved to play with her but they did not respect or take her seriously. Some men's sense of entitlement...Even Dylan more than once reminds us that a woman's place is in the home. The women's movement fought for CHOICES IN A WOMAN'S LIFE. Raising children and taking care of a household is fine if that is your choice. Raising and nurturing children in particular....is the most sacred and should be valued the most in society no matter which sex but mostly it still falls upon women. So many of my female colleagues told me that by the time they took care of everyone they were only able to relax with wine by the time midnight rolled around. They are the real heroes....When the women's movement struggled with issues related to the politics of the household.... It wasn't in the cards for me for many reasons to have my own children but I nurtured children in the school system. Sometimes I failed them just as caregivers...We all did the best we could with the tools we had. In the school system it is so demanding because you have to navigate with the different personalities and skill levels of your students and then the personalities of their parents and their own issues as I had parents who were bi-polar, homeless, single-parent household, etc. Vice-Principal who is pressured by the Principal to meet certain standards and on and on and on. Everyone has an opinion because everyone went to school. Yeah, you try it. The other person I lived with came on a school trip. On purpose I gave him some challenging kidzzz to supervise as he thought my work was not as difficult as I had shared with him. We were at our Science Centre and yes although I had a group of my own I kept a keen eye on him....lol....I observed that he was running around trying to keep up with them and....He never doubted again why I was exhausted every day as these kidzzz were anywhere from 3-12 years old. Even Virgil who teaches at the College level doesn't have to deal with behavioural issues...His students want to be in his classes as they pay to be in these classes but....Occasionally when they challenge him or are obnoxious or admit to him that they are only in the class as their parent told them they have to be there....Well, all of a sudden he's so stressed out! Yes, welcome to my world as we don't have any say who walks into your classroom. Some years I had students who lived in a Women's Shelter or they were children of alcoholics, or they disclosed their own sexual abuse which I had to report pronto!! You have to be a caregiver, comedian, entertainer, facilitator of all kinds including conflict resolutions...All of this and I still I loved it for the first 14 years. After our political protest for two weeks gradually my energy was being zapped as I was becoming more and more demoralized. The year where I taught all the grades drama/dance, vocal music and gym and resource....One of my best years in many ways....same as the year where I had two students who had Asperger's Syndrome which is on the Autism spectrum.....Wow...Children for the most part enrich your life as those of you who are parents here know very well and yes....I am sure some of you had many challenges with some of your children as well. As for Cathy Smith...I do have compassion for her...She did have dreams....What I observed when female musicians became famous and acquired wealth....Some of them played with the boyzzz as well.....Power of fame....power of fortune.....And then there are the women like Rhianna and Janet Jackson who were drawn to men who were billionaires as they were tired of always having the most money in the relationship......

"Though she is remembered for her non-musical associations with performing artists, it’s easy to neglect the fact that Cathy Smith also had a burning desire to perform. It was around 1976 that she found work as a backing singer for folk musician Hoyt Axton.

Axton’s personal life was in a downward spiral at this point on account of his substance addiction, but his association with Cathy still yielded some musical merit. She co-wrote his chart hit “Flash of Fire,” but their association was not a long-lasting one. She soon found a much more lucrative line of business".

Dunc...Touche! The "Black Arrow" footballer was Gil Scott-Heron's father! How was he treated by the fans? I'm thinking of the black footballers who are treated to monkey noises directed at them. Some of our black hockey players also.... :-(

Pat B...Maybe check out Libraries? If no luck I can lend you mine. Paul G lent me one of the books on The Hawk. I sent it back to him and later found my own copy in a used music store that Bill M frequents.

Ben...I really like the song I Believe I Can Fly by RR Kelly. When I am at my lowest it really lifts my spirits. We knew about his thing for very young women...but when the women themselves started speaking out and giving us details about the "dark room"...These young women did not consent to the degrading perversions of this artist. When I saw Whitney Houston's funeral...I respect her career and have a few songs downloaded....RR Kelly was there too singing in her honour even though everyone apparently knew about his "other life"...He was protected by the music industry because he made money for them. Gospel singer Yolanda Adams did a great cover as well. And then Dylan with Sara just before she had enough was when apparently Bob hit her and yet he's the one who hit her. As a survivor...Really difficult...Sometimes when I listen my Dylan CDS, it's the very first thing I think about and other times.....Same with Marley...Love his as a musician...not sure if anyone will ever come close to what he lived and represented to the world...the world....to anyone who has felt oppressed....women as a social group have been oppressed...domestic violence one in five of us and I know of one man who is a survivor....most men cannot disclose when it happens to them and I know at least four who are survivors of sexual abuse....One was abused by a big brother....The group who is supposed to be a brother to those who don't have fathers...One who had a gay friend and the friend made unfounded assumptions....One who did some modelling....Again assumptions were made as not all male models are gay....obviously but these men are not millenials....One but....I remember writing a poem about the visual artist I was with for nine years on and off one line...He could give to humanity but not to a single individual....

The Band/The Band GB...Where is the diversity re "race", sexuality, even gender?? Well Robbie had "Take Your Partner By The Hand". I have a partner too..... ;-D

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Bill M

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b.lee

Subject: Gil Scott Heron

BEG, can't say I've delved deeply into Gil Scott, but remember him from the day. I seem to recall seeing a film segment, possibly in b&w, from back then. Rapping before Rap was a 'thing'. But Gil was not quite prophetic. The Revolution, it seems, will be televised. From multiple angles. What's the word?

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Norm J

Subject: Behavour

I have been saying that for years Ben. Some people are more interested in the actions like you read on National Enquirer.

As I have said before in Nick Tosches book "Country The Biggest Music in America" there is a whole chapter dedicated to Jerry Lee. One chapter is entitled "Stained Panties and Coarse Mataphors". This is from the 40's and 50's. These guys were tame. Digging into personal lives has never had anything to do with the music. Good example of crazy is Guy Terrifico.

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Ben

Come on folks, many other musicians were behaving in similar ways as Levon and Richard during these years. I'm sure we could very quickly come up with a list of our favorite musicians who behaved terribly in their personal lives. How about Miles Davis and Jerry Lee Lewis to start. Were they renowned for treating their wives and girlfriends well? Certainly, not.

Can we listen to and enjoy music without focusing on the personal lives of the artists who created the music? That's a question for each of us to answer, but for myself the answer in most cases is yes.

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Peter V

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Dunc

Subject: Gil Scott Heron

Ah, but did you know that Gil Scott Heron’s dad was the first black player to play for Celtic, BEG.

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Pat B

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Wallsend

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Lisa

Pat, it's really not that great a book ... I found mine years ago in an antique store in New Westminster, for $3 ... I just checked Abebooks and my gosh! the prices start at $45 and go to $375!!!

It's not particularly well written and is kind of ... self-serving is the best way I can put it. She portrays herself as the injured party throughout, which she often was, I guess. But I'm glad she's found some peace in Maple Ridge (of all places) after a life with so much turmoil. Just about the first thing I ever posted here years ago was a defense of her, actually - she really was treated pretty shabbily by various Band members.

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Pat B

Another example of the author's strange lack of curiosity: Richard snorts heroin before the SNL appearance. "A doctor administered a shot to counteract the effects, yet Manuel was not in good shape." I mean, c'mon.

Ben, the description of the machinations that led to the reunion encompass all of two paragraphs and seem to rest on Harold Kudlets suggestion to do so. The author flatly states that "Levon also included the Cate Brothers Band" which to me, at least, belabors the obvious. There is also Levon's "8 sounds better than 5". The sourcing for this segment is practically non-existent and includes a gig at University of Chicago--supposedly the second one after Joyous Lake--that I don't believe happened.

Anytime she quotes John Donabie, the narrative picks up. A lot from our old friend Butch Dener too.

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Peter V

A rat done bit my sister Nell

And whitey’s on the moon

Her face and arms began to swell

But whitey’s on the moon

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brown eyed girl

Levon Helm and The Band[edit]

"Smith became notorious in the Belushi case, but her association with celebrities went back at least 20 years prior to her confession in the National Enquirer. Her earliest acquaintance was with Levon Helm, who later joined the Band, in 1963.[5] In his autobiography, Helm recalls that Smith first met him in Hamilton, Ontario.[6] Helm, with friend and bandmate Rick Danko, was in a band called the Hawks at the time (see Ronnie Hawkins). At one point, the musicians were in Toronto facing a drug bust.[7]

Smith has been connected to the Band's famous song, "The Weight" (1968).[8] Smith says in Rock and Roll Toronto: From Alanis to Zeppelin (1997),[9] that Richard Manuel offered to marry her, but she refused.[8] Nevertheless, she continued to tour and party with Helm, Danko, and Manuel through the 1960s, and at one point became pregnant with a child known as "the band baby," as its paternity was unclear.[10] She later had an affair with Gordon Lightfoot. After the affair ended, Smith returned to Helm and the circle whose members made up The Band.[citation needed]"

These days, Cathy Smith’s life is one of suburban peace and quiet. She lives in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, and for her, the past is a very long time ago. Although you wouldn’t know it just looking at her, around thirty years ago she was one of the most notorious women in show business.

But long before those days, long before the drugs, the homicide and the jail sentence, she was a common or garden groupie. Her first high profile relationship was with the musician Levon Helm. Levon would eventually make a name for himself in the legendary group The Band. But when he met Cathy he was still a struggling journeyman with a band known as The Hawks.

That was 1963, and by the time The Band had formulated and begun to gather some momentum, Cathy Smith was still very much on the scene. Thanks to a successful gig as the backing band for newly electrified Bob Dylan, The Band was on the cusp of mainstream success.

Cathy was still touring with them and partying hard. It was in the late ’60s that she became pregnant with what was then known as “the band baby.” The reason? No one could say for sure just who the father was, though they knew it was one of the band.

Cathy Smith – “The Weight”

Richard Manuel, the pianist, offered to marry her but she graciously declined. At that point in her life, Cathy was not cut out for monogamy. She was a larger than life character leading an outrageous rock ‘n’ roll lifestyle. She has even been immortalized by a brief mention in the lyrics to The Band’s biggest hit, and one of the greatest rock songs of all time, “The Weight.”

It was the early ’70s when Cathy Smith started working for Gordon Lightfoot. Lightfoot was and still is one of Canada’s premier singer-songwriters. His work in the folk-rock genre is nothing short of legendary. A testament to the enduring quality of his music comes from the fact that he has been covered by the likes of Elvis Presley, Johnny Cash, and Bob Dylan. Accolades don’t come much more prestigious than that.

In the early ’70s, Lightfoot was a married man, but that didn’t stop him from engaging in a fiery affair with Cathy. The relationship was tempestuous, to say the least, and brought out a fiercely jealous streak in Lightfoot. He is reported to have fired his opening act, The Good Brothers, after catching them flirting with Cathy Smith backstage.

But the affair was doomed from the start and quickly headed downhill. Lightfoot was drinking heavily, while Cathy’s substance abuse had escalated significantly too. It seemed that while Lightfoot’s career was taking off, his personal life was sliding into the sewer. One physical altercation resulted in a broken cheekbone for Cathy. This was an affair that was destined to end very badly indeed.

Lightfoot’s biggest hit, “Sundown,” is said to be a raw and personal account of his extramarital liaisons with Cathy, and the jealousy that ensued from them. It is a song of paranoia, obsession and tormented love that resonates strongly to this day. In 1974, it reached number one in the US Billboard charts, Lightfoot’s only song to do so. It remains an enduring hit, though its personal associations are no doubt still troubling.

Cathy Smith and Keith Richards. Throughout the duration of their relationship, Gordon Lightfoot remained a married man. But by the time he and Cathy Smith split up, Gordon’s wife had called time on their marriage too. There’s a bitter irony to the fact that the peak of his commercial success also brought what was then the most expensive divorce settlement Canada had ever seen.

After her split from Lightfoot, Cathy drifted back to Levon Helm and The Band. They continued to tour, and she followed them around the world. By then it was the mid-1970s and The Band were bona fide rock legends. They made a guest appearance on the hit comedy show Saturday Night Live in 1976, and that was when she met a young comedian named John Belushi. Little did either of them know, but they were to have a shattering effect on each other’s lives.

Though she is remembered for her non-musical associations with performing artists, it’s easy to neglect the fact that Cathy Smith also had a burning desire to perform. It was around 1976 that she found work as a backing singer for folk musician Hoyt Axton.

Axton’s personal life was in a downward spiral at this point on account of his substance addiction, but his association with Cathy still yielded some musical merit. She co-wrote his chart hit “Flash of Fire,” but their association was not a long-lasting one. She soon found a much more lucrative line of business.

By the tail end of the ’70s, Cathy was a full-blown opiate addict and pusher. She had relocated to Los Angeles and established herself as a drug dealer to the stars, couriering all manner of substances for the likes of Keith Richards and Ronnie Wood of the Rolling Stones."

BWNWILos Angeles... :-D

Lisa! I guess I'm the only one here who knows the music of Gil Scott-Heron....

Pat B.... Thanks to a former GB poster I do have Cathy Smith's book. She was looking for love in all the wrong places. It happens to the best of us unfortunately.

Westie... I don't do drugs like Advil and such. I'm high on music...and nitrous oxide every three months. :-D

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Ben

Pat, It sounds like this author hasn't done a very thorough job in research. I'm not that interested in the basement tapes period. That's been quite documented. Although it's unfortunate that it's not described accurately. I'm more interested in any new information regarding the reformed Band. That period has been less well documented. Any explanation for hiring the Cate Bros to replace Robbie or the rumors about Albert Lee or Richard Thompson that you mentioned a few weeks ago.

Some interesting anecdotes about Don Felder and the Eagles. I haven't read his book or any of the other books on the Eagles, so I don't have much of an opinion about his issues with Frey and Henley. I enjoy the music of the Eagles, they were very talented guys, but their music doesn't mean nearly as much to me as The Band or any of my other favorites. I recently saw an episode of Documentary Now called 'Blue Jean Committee' which is about was a fictitous 70's band based partially on the Eagles. It's very funny, I'd highly recommend it. anyone

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Wallsend

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Pat B

I've said my piece on the Fued. The author makes no attempt to rectify the credits on MFBP against Levon's argument about the collective songwriting nature of the group. Levon constantly lobbies for Garth to be listed as a songwriter, yet Garth has famously insisted he wasn't a songwriter, respected the songwriters for what they could do, and regarded his role in the group a something entirely different. I guess that conundrum never piqued the author's curiosity.

What I did learn was that Levon was indeed upset with RR before 1983 but not enough to say anything in public about it. There are some hints of a child support case in the mid-80's and there is a single terse sentence that RR was not invited to participate in the reunion. She doesn't source this. Again, I believe this period is the real source for Levon's anger, and there are folks who could have addressed what went on between Levon and RR at this time.

I would have thought the Garth Brooks thing would have merited a mention. Hard to believe the author didn't know about it or regarded it as unimportant.

The author is a drummer and her analysis of Levon's playing is very good. I don't know that a normal reader would be able to follow her somewhat technical analysis. She also extols Levon's ability to play and sing at the same time. Now I'd have no trouble arguing that Levon is my favorite singing drummer, but a whole helluva lot of great singers play instruments at the same time at the same level, including Levon on mandolin, guitar, and bass. I realize people make a big deal about Levon's playing and singing, but that doesn't seem to be that unique a thing. I realize that's a quibble.

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Lisa

Did you know that almost all ginger tabbies are male? I don't know why this is so, but it is. Also they have a reputation for being very amiable and friendly (FU notwithstanding) ...

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Norm J

Subject: The age of Netflix documentary

The enthusiasm of reading the books is leaving me. I still read some but I've got so many books in my library I haven't got to when I stand in front of those library shelves looking at them it tires me out.

For years I was a great fan of Wilbur Smith. The South African man who wrote so many great novels that are very long. 600+ pages. I have quite a collection of them. I used to get into those books and go 'till 2 or 3 in the morning. Now I pick up the book and I'm lucky if I get 5 pages done before I'm asleep.

BWNW! How is LA treating you? You must stay busy we don't hear much from you any more. Have you been trampled by the masses recently.

Bill, Kevin J and BEG. How are things going for you folks out there with this pandemic really. I ask because on the news things still look pretty difficult. Trying to get things opened up and people working looks like it's some chaos getting things to work. It doesn't affect us too much here really as we seldom go out to eat. Sometimes there is a line up at the grocery store but we have our senior's hour in the morning and we rarely go to the store here anyway. I go once a month to the super store in Campbell River and get most everything we need. Susan has the hardest part of it. The facility where she works out every day has been shut down since this started. Also the swimming pool. Her and a group of her ladies have taken to walking laps on the track up at the high school. I work on my boats and in my garden so there is no change for me.

Some of you will get a kick out of this. I have this big ginger cat named Flynn I acquired from my daughter. After a few years now as cats are this entire house is his. At the outside edge of my desk is a big long window. Soon after we moved into this house a year ago he right away found how the sun comes thru' that window about 10 until 2. He lays on the back side of my monitor in the sun on my desk. Now he has taken to very quietly walking around through all my pictures and stuff on my desk and laying down right in front of me and right on my mouse. I ask him to move he just looks at me with this fuck you look on his face.

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Joe Frey

Subject: Levon"s book

I am a big fan of biographies, especially about historical figures. Its amazing how the lens can change when looking at the same event. A good example is Manchester's Churchill's volumes versus Nigel Hamilton's works comparing FDR and Churchill as military leaders.

Manchester, as I recall, sometimes paints FDR as naive with respect to military matters and Hamilton does the exact opposite.

Good scholarship triangulates many sources to piece together a factual understanding of an event or character. However, interpretation then can draw an analysis in different directions among historians.

Obviously, there will be many, many common events that Levon's book and OWB and Testimony will share.

Let's see how the interpretations compare. Out in the US on August 26th.

Joe

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Peter V

It's released late September in the UK. I ordered a copy, but from what I've read on the net it sounds extremely one-sided. Still, I'll give it a chance.

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Joe Frey

Subject: Levon: From Down in the Delta to the Birth of The Band and Beyond

There are some positive comments about Sandra Tooze's new biography of Levon on Amazon. Looking forward to its release.

Joe

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BWNWILos Angeles

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Bill M

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Norm J

Subject: The Believer Bob Carpenter

Bill, here is one of the ones Bob wanted me to record. This is a great song and Bob does a great job. It's funny this fellow who has put this to youtube has a bit of a nice note he has explained how he came by this. He has put pictures to the song and wouldn't you know one really nice shot is a tug with a ramp barge much like mine pulling away.

Put a lump in my throat. Bob Carpenter was areal gentleman, soft, quiet and sincere. The kind of fellow you enjoy being around.

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Norm J

Subject: The cassette

Bill it wasn't a produced cassette as you would buy. It was just like a work cassette.

I think that brown eyed girl is on drugs. Her eyes were pretty wobbly the last time I looked at her :-)......:-).....ooooh my.

You talk about things you have posted! none of us could ever read them all!!! We'd never get anything else done.

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Pat B

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Pat B

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JQ

I couldn’t find the beginning of the disagreement - what’s the story? I’m not a fan at all and I would encourage their proponents to remember that popularity and quality don’t always intersect. Sometimes they do though: Beatles and Levis come to mind.

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Lisa

Has anybody been watching Laurel Canyon? Part 2 airs tonight. Talk about a trip down Memory Lane - sure brings back a lot of memories.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Right you are Westie. WTF? I'm blaming it on this Covid-19 which has been giving me a foggy brain and messing me up!
Henley and Felder sharing? I better reread book and get back to you sometime. I even have the double DVD History of The Eagles as well......Time to take a break from posting about The Eagles. Yiiiiiikes!

"Visions" from One of These Nights (Don Felder & Don Henley)
"Too Many Hands" from One of These Nights (Felder & Randy Meisner)
"Victim of Love" from Hotel California (Felder, Henley, Glenn Frey, and J. D. Souther)
"Hotel California" from Hotel California (Felder, Henley, and Frey)
"The Disco Strangler" from The Long Run (Felder, Henley and Frey)
"Those Shoes" from The Long Run (Felder, Henley and Frey)
Eagles song featuring Felder on lead vocal[edit]
"Visions" from One of These Nights

I may have posted this one before as my brain is fried today....I really like it as it reminds me of my fave Van and his bandmates playing on a bus going to another gig....

Amy Helm & The Handsome Strangers perform "Acadian Driftwood" (The Band) in the van on the roads of Quebec, Canada!

Amy Helm - vocals / percussion
Daniel Littleton - vocals / guitar
Byron Isaacs - vocals / bass ukelele
David Berger - harmoniu

We live as we dream.
Alone
Unknown

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brown eyed girl

In an ancient mystic nation that is torn, riding through the eye of the storm. The official music video for the song "Eye Of The Storm" by Pablo Dylan.

Dag...If by chance you can find Pablo Dylan's rap On Top Of The World so that the Canadians can hear. When I checked I cannot access it here. Not sure how I downloaded it years ago. :-D

If you want to destroy a woman.
Marry her.
Marilyn French

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Norm J

BEG if you look on song writing credits Don Felder cowrote 6 songs with Eagles. His albums after eagles has more. In his musicians who worked on his solo albums Timothy Schmitt Eagles bassist worked with him along with many other musicians.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Dylan’s Grandson Pablo (Jessie Dylan's son) Explains Why He Went From Hip-Hop (Top Of The World no longer plays here but maybe in US and Europe? to Folk-Rock
He’s just 23, but Pablo Dylan already says he wants to be “the biggest star in the world”
By ANDY GREENE
MARCH 25, 2019

Norm...All I meant is that Don Felder creates guitar licks as he did for Hotel Cali...He is not a writer as Levon isn't and The Wailers weren't. Their stories are similar in that the main writer/s receive most of the money because of the way the system is set up....I guess it's a form of systemic...Don stood up to Henley and Frey and paid a huge price as they wouldn't allow him back into the band. Total respect for Felder. Unfortunately, by the time he returned home his partner was so used to not having him home...She didn't need him home anymore.

Being different forces you to be an original.
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brown eyed girl

Hey Lisa and bass_lee......I used The String Quartet Tribute To Bob Dylan Compilation Various Artists, Vitamin String Quartet to explore dance movement/dance stories with the kidzzz. I never told them what the songs were about as I wanted them to be as free as possible to feel the music and explore their own interpretations and then share with each other.

Last 5 This Morning on Shuffle

Eddie Money (former police officer ...Save A Little Room In Your Heart
Garbage...Only Happy When It Rains
Pablo Dylan...Dylan's Grandson started rapping here and apparently now has gone Country Norm!)...Top Of The World
Pitbull...featuring Marc Anthony...Rain Over Me (When this song was playing in a Habana, Cuban taxi...I asked if the driver could turn it up!)
Serena Ryder...What I wouldn't Do (only track I have of hers Bill M)....Actually at TLW...Big time Bill. Big time Bill...was about the Bill M who posts in The Band GB.

jan h...Good to see that you posted Robbie and MacLean article that I posted here on November 13/19

Dag and Kevin J...I also have Musician Magazine September 1987...The Debut of Robbie Robertson The Band's Leader Comes Back Strong

On World
One Prayer

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Norm J

Subject: Bob Carpenter

Bill some where back in my mind I seem to recall you and I discussing Bob long ago. He lived in Gibsons after moving west. I played music with him a few times. Some where back in a cabinet of cassettes I have kept is a cassette he gave me I think around 1982 or so. It as some of those songs on it you referred to. He wanted me to record either one or two I don't quite remember. I'll have to see if I can find it.

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Norm J

Subject: Eagles

BEG I have seen Don Felder's book years ago. Never got around to reading it all. Watched hours of interviews, and read many articles. I am more inclined to believe much of what Don Felder has to say. There is a video where Don Felder explains how he wrote the music for Hotel California. He was on the beach when he was 22 with an acoustic guitar noodling around and the music came to him. He went home and recorded it on an old reel to reel he had so he wouldn't forget it. In another video Don Henley explains how driving down the freeway coming into LA there is the bright light in the sky of the city which motivated his first lines. "On a dark desert high way...........up ahead in the distance I saw a shimmering light.

Looking at the wealth of those guys, Don Felder had two law suits for about 50 million each. They settled for an undisclosed amount. He is worth about 60 million so he didn't go hungry, however Don Henley is reportedly worth 250 million so he certainly got the lion's share.

As I understand it if all the reports are true, Randy Meisner and Bernie Leadon just walked away and early in the game and although they had shares in Eagles Ltd just let them go and got nothing but the money they earned. So Randy Meisner has about a mere 19 million.

The crazy life of that business is shown in some of the drug crazed life of some. Chuck Negron of Three Dog Night I watched on some show way back when. He had started giving speeches in high schools and colleges on drugs. He is supposed to have blown 50 million on drugs and partying and ended up broke. It's hard to imagine.

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Peter V

Subject: Some People (1962)

A further 1960s retrospective, SOME PEOPLE from 1962. Directed by Clive Donner, and featuring Kenneth More. The real stars are the five young Bristol kids, played by Ray Brooks, David Hemmings, Angela Douglas, Anneke Wills and David Andrews. It’s unusual for 1962, as it’s full colour, filmed on real Bristol locations and while it revolves around music, it uses actors rather than pop stars (and supplies music from The Eagles … the UK band … and Valerie Mountain, neither of them stars. Yet the soundtrack EP was a major hit. It was sponsored by the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme to show how kids lives could be changed, but the didactic bit is subservient to the main story.

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Jonathan Katz

““One time I had Rick Danko from the Band tell me that I sound desperate when I sing, and that I should never allow myself to not sound desperate.” Excerpt From A Memoir of Recording and Discording with Wilco, Etc. Jeff Tweedy This material may be protected by copyright.

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Bill M

Subject: wheels within wheels

After posting about Bob Carpenter's "Gypsy Boy", I decided to play another of his songs that were on YouTube. Looking at the comments, I learned that Carpenter's sister is the mother of Serena Ryder, a big singer here, if not elsewhere. (Like Amy Helm, Emmylou Harris, etc., she does a duet on Blackie and the Rodeo Kings' "Kings and Queens" album).

In the '60s, Serena Ryder's father, Glen Sorzano, was a member of the Debonairs, a Caribbean-Canadian band that had a huge local hit with "Steel Men" in 1962. (We talked here about this six months or so ago.) The leader, Dave Martins, left and formed the Tradewinds, also with Sorzano, who had an enormous hit in the Caribbean with "Honeymooning Couple". Martins told me it was based on an old cabbie joke. Old because he'd heard it from his brother-in-law, six or seven years before. He was very surprised when I told him that it dates back the the 1890s, if not earlier. (I knew this only because I happened to have just read author Joyce Cary's reminiscences of his childhood back then - and he mentions it.)

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Bill M

Subject: Buddy Cage

I looked on the back of singer-songwriter Bob Carpenter's only LP and noticed that Buddy Cage was on a couple of songs. Here's one of them, "Gypsy Boy", which was subsequently recorded by Billy Joe Shaver. The Shaver is great, with lots of mandolin, but the original is spooky-brilliant. Nothing but stringed instruments - Paul Armin and Ben Mink on violins, Buddy Cage on steel, producer Brian Ahern on 12-string and Skip Beckwith on bass.

The album, "Silent Passage", was recorded by Ahern over a period of three years, '71-'74, I suppose a pet project to do something with a great, unrecognized talent. Some of the later tracks have Emmylou and LA session guys, but this particular track would have been done in '71, when Buddy was one of Ahern's usual gang in Toronto (for Anne Murray recordings and the like). Armin was in Lighthouse, and Ben Mink (later very successful from his work with kd lang) was doing bits and pieces around Toronto. Beckwith was an old musical buddy of Ahern's from their days in Halifax.

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brown eyed girl

Lisa again!
The very first Gil Scott-Heron poem/song) I heard. I was in University and whoever knew his music was in our club automatically.

'B' Movie (Intro, Poem, Song) · Gil Scott-Heron
Reflections ℗ 1981 Arista Records

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brown eyed girl

Hellooooo Lisa! I love Gil Scott-Heron!! He is a brilliant writer who comments and critiques about the reality of many people. Mr. Maximus, his partner and I saw the Doc years ago at one of our revue Theatres. I remember I was for some reason really hungry so I bought quickly and brought in a middle eastern wrap from a nearby restaurant. I know that you're not supposed to....doesn't stop me. As a matter of fact I always bring in my own popcorn, etc. Not just because I'm a frugalista but because I'm a foodie and don't like what's available in the Theatres. Here's one of my other faves because of the message, the spacey groove....
Keep posting!! It's just you and me....and the boyzzzz. ;-D

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brown eyed girl

"The need for change is long overdue... and it is here. Finally. Toronto Raptors players, coaches, executives and staff, along with MLSE Chairman Larry Tanenbaum, deliver a powerful message of hope and love."

Toronto Raptors
I Can't Breathe

I Can't Breathe
brown eyed girl
Women's Lives Matter
Let's All Breathe Together

Heaven and Hell: My Life in the Eagles (1974-2001) Paperback – April 1, 2009

"The Eagles are the bestselling, and arguably the tightest-lipped, American group ever. Now band member and guitarist Don Felder finally breaks the Eagles’ years of public silence to take fans behind the scenes. He shares every part of the band’s wild ride, from the pressure-packed recording studios and trashed hotel rooms to the tension-filled courtrooms, and from the joy of writing powerful new songs to the magic of performing in huge arenas packed with roaring fans."

Hey Norm check out book as I couldn't put it down.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Talk Sexism, Equality in New Doc...Highly recommended.
“I ask no favor for my sex,” Supreme Court Justice says".....

“All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.”

haso...Sure you can obtain my email via Norm?

Peter...I am really enjoying any film with Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland...especially if Mickey is either playing drums or piano. Also I was reminded today when we saw Ava Gardner in The Sun Also Rises...Both of us read the book in school...at different times of course....I want to see more of her films. I have no idea why I sold her autobiography. Sometimes I just downsize too much....lol

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BONK

Hey Kevin. How are you? Yes, I'm trying to be careful but I think I've had enough.

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jh

Subject: The amazing adventures of Toronto’s greatest songwriter

Extensive article/interview from Toronto Life magazine, first published in October 2019, now available on-line.

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Bill M

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Peter V

However, this is the ORIGINAL Eagles, a band from Bristol UK in 1962!

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Norm J

Subject: Take it to the Limit

This song was Eagles first million seller. Randy Meisner started writting the song and got Glen Frey to help him finish it. This concert in Washington in 1977 was the best this song was ever done.

In another concert later Randy had the flu and was strung out on drugs and he wouldn't do the song. He knew he couldn't do the high ending is why Glen freaked on him. It was their million seller and Glen was just using Randy. Watch Glen in this video. He's just about getting his rocks off listening to Randy. He just wanted everyone to make his show.

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Norm J

Subject: Don Felder

To say that Don Felder's story is the same as Levon Helm's is nuts. Nothing the same. Don Felder wrote music that had nothing to do with anyone and he proved it. He didn't just whine like Levon did (just as when he quit the Band the first time). That's a stupid comparison. Don Felder was fired by Glen and Don. Except that he owned shares in "Eagles". You can't fire a share holder. You have to buy their shares (which cost about $100,000,000).

For any one to say the Eagles had no talent, then how did they write some of the greatest songs ever that have lasted through time. They sold more albums than anyone else in the USA. That's really a no talent. Some of the best musicians. Randy Meisener was every bit as good a bassist as Rick Danko.

Some of the comments made here sometimes are either just plain uninformed or for the purpose of "great debate"

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haso

Subject: Post

Damn, Angelina (or as Norm says, Evangelina, only I think that's him channeling LH and Emmy Lou from the TLW studio sessions), I'm tangential to your hollering out "Whipping Post" w/ Kevin... just hoping it was you: "Play all Night". Just kidding, only Virgil, Peter or Norm would be the right age demographic for that ultra-famous holler (at least to Allman Bros aficianados). Almost like "Judas", just an entirely different vibe.

Would you be talking Gregg's memoirs or EC's? I've not read, or otherwise, EC's but have lent out "Not my Cross to Bear" at least twice.

Great rework of the classic physics equation. Also enjoyed your story of the prep school kid... went to one myself (my parents worked there so it was free), met a lot of "landed gentry" types; as did our boy, at an even more "exclusive" spot. Fortunately, he ultimately didn't "get above his raisin'", as Ricky Skaggs warns.

Sounds like you must teach ESL or such like, another reason perhaps to converse off-line. Anyway, that "Racist Friend" YouTube particularly interests me. Not just the lyrics, but the choice of brass from the horn section. Might one of those even be the high school or peck horns that John Simon played on the brown album? Definitely different than the standard trumpet/trombone duality.

Not sure that I'm qualified to comment on Mr. Hyden's list that Kevin puts us onto. Other than Peter's probably "dead balls accurate", but many in the 30 to 45 year old crowd doubtless hold Mr. Cobain in higher regard, than we might. Though I'll dive in enough to say, I might have moved Fillmore East, Little Feat to lower #'s and snuck in RofA somehow.

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Lisa

From 1971. I heard this on CBC this afternoon, and it yanked my attention away from what I was doing. Timely and prescient. Of course, it IS being televised, and good thing too - visual proof. Thought you all would appreciate it too.

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brown eyed girl

....and one more to honour another Eagle. Soooooo much talent in this band. Anyone who says that they suck or they don't have any talent....
Be quiet so I can listen to them and not you. ;-D

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brown eyed girl

.....Oh and of course I was also sooooooo disappointed to see The Eagles and not see and hear Randy Meisner hit those high notes!! Unfortunately I read that Glen Frey would really let you have it if you missed those notes. Yiiikes he was..... :-(

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brown eyed girl

Finally saw The Eagles at Air Canada Centre during my sabbatical year off. Of course I knew that I would be really disappointed that Don Felder would not be present this time but it was my only chance. At least Bernnie Leadon would be there. If you read Felder's memoir...same story as The Wailers, Levon Helm....

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brown eyed girl

George Harrison and Billy Preston!

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Kevin J

Still one of the funniest lines ever uttered at a rock show and a perfectly polite response to the cloth-eared fans who had thought the great man had already started his show !

Above reference to Ravi Shankar, of course and the fans at MSG for the Concert for Bangladesh.

My strongest memory of that show - and it has been a couple of decades since seeing it - was just how relaxed and confident George Harrison was on stage and that his playing and singing were great. A far cry from almost all other live performances of his that would follow where he always seemed most uncomfortable......I had remembered Dylan looked good but was a bit out of tune, though I might be wrong on that as it has been a while. I still love Before the Flood as Dylan’s best live and I also love his 1978 live shows. Pat B once posted a truly stunning live version of Tangled Up in Blue from Paris in 78. .”Startling” I think he called it and it was.

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Peter V

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Kevin J

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brown eyed girl

So...What do ya do when you're in quarantine while everyone else is out either enjoying this beautiful day or out connecting with everyone on the streets of their city? I think Norb has a photo of me protesting for students back in the day. Toef has one when I had punky hair in University....What's up Toef???? I sent him a CD a mixed brown eyed girl one and he told me not to send it as he won't receive it as someone would steal it in Algeria and sure enough he received a post card from NYC from me but no CD.....I sure hope the thief loved my music selections.......

I am sorting my books for children. Every shelf I have my books sorted by genres...Music, Poetry, Cookbooks, Children, Health, Art, Photography, Literature, Politics. I thought I'd share some of my all time fave books I have for children and that maybe some of you might be interested if you have your own children or maybe you're a Grandpa or Grandma...I actually called them my Pop and my Baba. Or maybe you don't have your own children but you're a special Uncle or Aunt. Here goes...

A Caribbean Dozen Poems From Caribbean Poets

The Big Book For Peace Poems and very short stories

Jelly Belly is my fave of many...Canadian Dennis Lee

One Love...Cedella Marley...Based on the song by Bob Marley adapted by Cedella Marley...(One of my classes made their own books to take home.)

One parent who taught Early Childhood Educators gave me this book as a gift...Take A Deep Breath...Little lessons from flowers for a happier world...Allison Scotland..."My Garden taught me...that we can all live together."
She also gave me this one too. I taught her daughter in JK, SK and grade 1...Three years of total bliss...She was a gifted child who was kind to everyone.
Only One You..."There is only one you in this great big world. Make it a better place."...Linda Kranz...

I did yoga with my classes as well as having a yoga club...The ABCs of Yoga for Kids...Teresa Anne Power
A Child's Garden Of Yoga...Baba Hari Dass A Child's Garden Of Yoga

I found this one in NYC about a boy in Paris, France beautiful photography...The Red Balloon...A. Lamorisse

The True Story Of The 3 Little Pigs...A.Wolf As told to Jon Scieszka...My Ma couldn't read English when I was really young but she told me stories and one of them was about the big bad wolf even across the Atlantic Ocean. This is a must read for everyone to learn that just because you hear constant repetitive stories about a big bad wolf or Robbie and Levon and brown eyed girl and....Always two sides....

When I taught the Jr. Grades I read to them these Zen books that another parent gave me as gifts who was a lawyer. She gave me The Three Questions and I bought the other two as they are special because most of us weren't taught to be zen like....
Zen Ties...Jon J Muth

Zen Shorts...Jon J Muth

The Three Questions...Jon J Muth

Romeo and Juliet...Illustrated by Margaret Early

All the Angelina books...First one was Angelina Ballerina...was the very first one I bought during intermission at the Sony Centre where I saw my all time fave ballet...Onegin. (few times now) It was during my University days that I had a subscription to ballet and dance. Like Robbie; I exposed myself to many types of visual and performing arts. It was also the time I met the visual artist who I became engaged to at 31 and Virgil the photographer in my forties. Both of them taught me a lot about how to see everything different in life. In my fourth year at the University of Toronto I took a Photography and Sociology course where we had to read Berger's Ways Of Seeing. My first love would have been to become a Visual Sociologist but there were only two schools....University of Montreal but I'm not fluent in French and Columbia...I am not driven enough to find ways to afford tuition and everything else. And unlike Virgil's niece who obtained a Scholarship to Harvard; I'm not an A student. I only received A's if I really liked course material. My strength was my work experience. My second choice teaching worked out just fine.

Tom Doesn't Visit Us Anymore...Maryleah Otto..."Sensitive story that introduces the concerns surrounding child sexual abuse. For youngsters under six years of age."

Come Sit By Me...Margaret Merrifield M.D...."Dedicated to all the children who have or will have HIV/AIDS"

Princess Smartypants...Babette Cole

Prince Cinders...Babette Cole

Child Of The Sun...A Cuban Legend Retold by Sandra Arnold

Tyrone The Horrible...Hans Wilhelm..."Tyrone the Horrible is the world's first bully. Tyrone hurts and teases little Boland dinosaur until Boland dinosaur outsmarts the big bully and teaches him a hot lesson." ;-D

Lon Po Po A Red Riding Hood Story from China...Ed Young

The Dream Eater...Japanese Story by Christian Garrison

Three Gold Pieces...Greek story by Aliki..Three Life lessons
Feelings...Aliki
Manners...Aliki

A Snow Child...Freya Littledale...A Russian Folktale...Any book by this writer who retells many stories is a must

The Boy Who Grew Flowers...Jen Wojtowicz

The book that set me on my journey exploring chants with children was Butterscotch Dreams....I became the chant on chant on babylon teacher.

Sometimes I would read a novel to the class and the one that is the absolute best for my own learning and for the students was The Tale Of Despereaux....Kate DiCamillo...I showed the film to the kidzzz but nooooo.....You have to read the book. Biggest lesson....Forgiveness....When my Ma passed I phoned someone and said that I forgive you. The other person said thank you. My Ma could never forgive this person and it destroyed her and I took on her burden my whole life. This time with the help of mindfulness meditation, group therapy, individual therapy and support of my friends who became my family during my darkest days...... I finally stopped a family feud.....It was the best thing I ever did.....Why my Aunt Sophie is so important to me is that when I called her for help even though I removed myself from all relatives during this Fffffff......She just embraced me as if I was still 19 years old when I left home by the Grand River.....no questions asked as she knew what family really meant. We all need those special people in our lives, don't we?

Hi Peter. I just saw your post. How could I have forgotten another highly recommended film?!
Greece’s Yorgos Lanthimos...The Favourite.

Also I would highly recommend The Farewell....written and directed by Lulu Wang. Just sayin'. I told Virgil about my list as he was doing chores...His Mama trained him well...His skill set is out of this world in and outside the home. Of course like all of us we all have areas to develop.....Yiiiikes I sure do! We're all a work of progress....Anyway, he said why just new films?! However he wants to see Ford Versus Ferrari as he photographed the Indie back in the day for some company in Toronto. In general he's rather watch films at home. I can go both ways as I like to see films at the nearby Theatres. Of course now.....

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Peter V

I have a few to catch up on. Originally, I only reviewed films I saw on a proper full-size screen at the cinema. Then for the 60s Retrospectives I reviewed from TV … broadcast, DVD or Blu-ray because how else are you going to see them? JoJo Rabbit is only about the second where the question has come up of reviewing from DVD. I probably won't (though I'm going to watch it again soon so might change my mind) because I have a large stack of 60s ones to do. Also there's other stuff - we watched Days of Heaven (1974?) last night, but just for peace of mind, I might stick to "60s or New". I'm also holding back on reviewing streamed plays (partly because I saw nearly all of them live anyway).

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brown eyed girl

Good Afternoon Peter! Here is a list of some films and Docs I saw last year at the movie theatres that you might want to review or not. A few of the theatres I can walk to easily but yes, I noticed that not many people were attending before the Pandemic really hit.

Parasite (highly recommended)
The Farewell
Knives Out (highly recommended)
Booksmart
The Last Black Man In San Francisco
Spider-Man Far From Home
The Lion King
A Beautiful Day In The Neighbourhood (highly recommended)
Bombshell (highly recommended)
Marianne and Leonard -Words of Love (highly recommended)
Dylan -Rolling Thunder Review (highly recommended)

haso...400 Years Bob Marley and The Wailers. I did have a Bob Marley poster in my classroom when I was teaching vocal music and drama and dance. I also had a poster of Bob Dylan, Robbie Robertson, Garland Jeffreys and....Johnny Cash giving us the finger...and of course...The Band. I found that one that was on the cover of Time Magazine with Crabgrass while we were walking in the West Village of NYC and stopped by a music shop. He noticed a Robbie EP What About Now and I bought that one too. Hoping that all the protesters all over the world today are peaceful and that everyone is safe and feels energized to continue with the struggle for everyone's humanity. I am still in quarantine so I can only witness from the sidelines.......

I am repeating this formula as it surely applies today. I was exposed to this fabulous formula at a work Mapping workshop which was to help us decide whether we wanted to make a career change. For the first 14 years of my career...I loved my work because it was never boring and I was learning all the time. I was able to use my own creativity and of course...I exposed every student to the music I loved. Some of them already knew some of the music because of their parents and some of them exposed me to the music of their own cultures. Yes my work was very demanding in many ways and at times I took breaks from the GB. The highlight for me was always...always...when my students called me Mom by accident. When the Conservative Harris government came into power we put up a fight before they implemented many changes which took away from my love of my daily work. We protested for two weeks without pay or benefits because it was an illegal strike. We lost two weeks of pay because we were so against the changes to our educational system but sometimes you do what you gotta do...

E=MC2...Energy equals Motivation Commitment and Clarity.

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Peter V

Me too so far. I was wondering whether to do a review, but there are so many I thought what's the point? While these early 60s films sometimes have very little on line about them.

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Roger Woods

Subject: Film of the year - Jo Jo

PV - Jo Jo Rabbit is my film of the year. Incredibly moving and very funny.

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Peter V

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Pat B

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brown eyed girl

The Wailers feat. Skip Marley (Cedella Marley's son) , Farruko, Shaggy & Cedella Marley

– ONE WORLD, ONE PRAYER

3,178,759 views
•Premiered May 21, 2020

Dag! Many thanks once again for the Dylan, Mick Taylor, Robbie Shakespeare and your fave...Mark Knopfler. Thank you! :-D

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brown eyed girl

...and on a more positive vibe. Here's K'NAAN once again. Speaking of daddies...This song is in honour of the father I never knew as I was an infant when he passed. Ma always talked with pride that he was a footballer in the old country. Marley's son Damian better known as Jr. Gong is here kickin' it too.

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brown eyed girl

...And here is my absolute favourite song by The Specials! When I was living in a Women's Co-Op while I was in undergrad as it was very inexpensive...However, I didn't have any say about who my housemates would be. I first lived with four other women...Later I was in a two person unit and there's a story for another day...So my housemates...a teenager so I knew there were obvious problems at home, another one had schizophrenia, another one tried to commit suicide one night. We just had a talk with her as she was so distraught that her younger boyfriend was leaving her and still...not long after we woke up to blood all over the walls and when I can't cope with something I just go totally blank. I just looked at the wall and didn't feel anything until much later. The other woman kept bringing her boyfriend over and they were really obnoxious. She attended a private school and I don't do well with anyone who thinks they deserve to be entitled just because of their social class. So one late very late night I had enough. I placed my speaker close to the wall because her bedroom was beside mine and I just blasted this song through the walls! She never said anything to me the next day but shortly after she was evicted. I guess daddy no longer paid her rent.

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brown eyed girl

The Specials - Racist Friend, 1984

"Formed in 1977 in Coventry (UK) with locals and African/Jamaican descendants, their music combines a ska and rocksteady beat with punk's energy and attitude. Lyrically they present a "more focused and informed political and social stance" than most other ska groups. This hit is taken from their 3rd album "In the Studio", released in 1984."

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Peter V

The Everly Brothers were a huge influence on The Beatles as Paul McCartney always said. I loved seeing them on the "Wings of A nightingale" tour when Don apologised that Paul's song was twice as long as they normally did. It was hit after hit at high speed.

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brown eyed girl

Oops! I meant this one first with Jeanne Beker and John Roberts from MuchMusic and The Police Picnic in Oakville, Ontario...I was there with friends. Just sayin'. I never appreciated Killing Joke and Canadian Nash The Slash....not really. The Police, Iggy Pop and The Specials...Yessssss!

The Police / Iggy Pop / The Specials / Killing Joke / Nash the Slash

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brown eyed girl

Canadian John Roberts via Toronto's MuchMusic via of CNN via of Foxxxxx Fake News. He married an American Krya Phillips....He was here in 1981 and I was there too with my friends. One of the groups has a song that is needed now called Racist Friend.

Ilkka...I overdo it with the dots but basically I use them as an ellipsis. If I am feeling a lot of emotion which is usually as I'm like Richard Manuel...We feeeeel things deeply......when I'm expressing myself I tend to to go overboard and use more than three dots.

Thanks for your concern Ilkka. I'm a fighter so I am doing well. We even received good news today as Virgil is negative! It's bad enough that he has to remind me that he wears the same size jeans as he did in University...If he would have been diagnosed positive...He has to iso now until June 23 which is two days before his 69th birthday...and I'm still contagious until Monday...Since I'm the younger one I had to do all the grocery shopping but he does all the cooking and chores while I am recovering. Yesterday he made a shrimp pasta. Today it's grilled chicken burgers with rapini. Just sayin'..He's already making a list of all the things I have to do next week if no new symptoms arise. I guess I'll be his faithful servant...just until he recovers of course.

Kevin J!...I was the one who yelled out Whipping' Post. I did see The Allman Brothers at Eric Clapton's Guitar Festival perform this song? Did I tell you that I was there by myself and many others??!! I even bought his memoir when Chapters shut down on John Street half price. I immediately went to the section on Cher.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Tango

When did you invite your partner to a tango? I bet it was (too) long ago. - Here is my former student (NOT from the school I mentioned before!) singing genuine Finnish tango. It is different from Argentinian tango which is played in 78 rpm. Finnish tango is played in 45 rpm or even in 33 rpm when drunk.

Heidi is also a music journalist. She has written a book of Swedish rock-artists. Two of my former students - among others - tell about their lives. I don't have the guts to read this book: MAYBE THEY DON'T MENTION _MEEEEE_?!

Just Google: Heidi Kaarto Mä annan sut pois

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Norm J

Subject: Roberta Battaglia - Shallow

Every one needs to hear this little 10 year old girl from Ontario who gets a golden buzzer. Voices like this in children are rare. You have to love her and her emotion.

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brown eyed girl

Peter V...Years later I would watch weekly The Everly Brothers show....Also Dean Martin. Here is my absolute fave then and now. Was that a photo of your enchanted backyard that K sent yesterday?!! :-D

"This beautiful clip of the Everly Brothers was filmed on their UK tour in 1960 with Buddy Holly's Crickets as the backup band, less than a year and half after the plane crash that took Holly's life.:

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Peter V

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Bill M

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Peter V

Subject: Everly Brothers: Rising Sun

There's a new Everly Brothers 3 CD set, "Down In The Bottom: The Country Rock Years". It's based around three albums, The Hit Sound of …, Sing and Roots. I already had Roots, but there is a bunch of bonus tracks on each CD.

The Hit Sound is 1966 and recorded with The Wrecking Crew in LA. It's mainly rock classics, but they also covered House of The Rising Sun. Frankly, the vocals (Don lead) are overwrought and not up to Eric Burdon, but the backing fascinates me. They're following The Animals arrangement, but the guitar (the sleeve mentions Glen Campbell), bowed acoustic bass (Ray Pohlman) and drums (Hal Blaine) are significantly better. It's the organ I noticed. Pat B would know, but I'd say it was Hammond rather than Alan Price's Vox Continental, and whoever played it felt challenged to compete. The usual keyboard players were Larry Knechtel and Leon Russell, but I think of piano first for both. It doesn't say who played it. Larry Knechtel is mentioned as playing on the album.

Check it out.

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Music in school for blinds - a reminiscense

In my youth I searched a job in a school for blind kids. This man got the job and this is the song he wrote about his life in this particular school. It is about how a blind kid takes his hand. I believe they gave the job to the right guy, after all! (I got a job in a school for students with mental illness instead, and now we both have been growing old...) This is a beautiful song in this difficult time. - Just Google: Dave Lindholm Pieni ja hento ote

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NorthWestCoaster

Subject: Dots

A lot of dots in Brown Eyed Girl's posts lately. I stopped my counting on 268 dots after a migraine attack. - Oh well, maybe I should get me a life . . . or death.

All the best to you and your love ones.

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Peter V

Has anyone seen the film JoJo Rabbit? I’d say two of the best uses of anachronistic music in years. It opens with The Beatles ‘Komm, gib mir deine hand’ – the German version they recorded themselves, and ends with Helden by David Bowie, his own German version of Heroes. We were so knocked out with the film that when it ended, we watched the last 30 minutes again.

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haso

Subject: beg

Angie: a lot to think about on your lengthy commentary about the original sin (401 years and counting) of my "fair country". Not at all sure that it is "fair", that's more a euphemism borrowed from 2 brothers hereabouts that used to make car repairs interesting on our Public Radio. I agree, I'm just happy you found Playing for Change, whenever you did. I didn't know, until Norm's post, that the site (PfC) went back that far.

How many sad things are there right now... countless I'm quite afraid to say. ALL time sad for anyone (back to Socrates and the like) to see a "democracy" devolve into a banana republic. Shipping in essentially para-military forces from such as riot patrol of the Texas Bureau of Prisons, dressing them in black, unmarked: is that not classic Pinochet, Somoza, Mugabe, Milosavic, etc. etc.?

Otherwise, keep getting better beg-friend; and glad you haven't lately "took off time from posting"/also glad you've got the magical door key. You know if they gave it to Norm we'd end drowning up in Merle, Waylon, Dwight Yoakim; well maybe that'd be ok come to think of it, 'long as we can swim a little. (Listening to some '65 Butterfield while I type, so that's where I'm coming down right now... "Blues w/ a Feeling", there's a sentiment for the current state of affairs.)

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Dag B.

Subject: Infidels sessions, Power Station, NYC 1983

Two unreleased videos, "Don't Fall Apart On Me Tonight" and Licence To KilL" Featuring Sly & Robbie, Mick Taylor, Mark Knopfler, and Alan Clark from Dire Straits.

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Kevin J

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Kevin J

Just watched Gregg Allman on David Letterman from January 1982. He had been sober for a while and while that didn’t last his performance of “Melissa” while sitting on the couch will last forever.

Thank you, BEG for those Infidels memories.......Bob looked so young yet at the time I wouldn’t have thought that.

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brown eyed girl

And for the completists of Sweetheart Like You video...

Clydie King on keyboards was secretly married to Dylan and they had a child together.

Lowell 'Sly' Dunbar...drums (as Sly Dunbar) on recording from Bob Marley and the Wailers.

Mark Knopfler ....music producer: guitar on recording with Mick Taylor but Carla Olson guitar on video.

Robbie Shakespeare from Bob Marley and The Wailers on recording and video. ... bass guitar

Wild Geese

You do not have to be good.
You do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the ocean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.

Mary Oliver
Dream Work, Grove Atlantic Inc.
1986 & New and Selected Poems, Beacon Press, 1992.

Landmark...Thank you for your concern. Hopefully just one more week of quarantine if no new symptoms arise. I'm so glad, I'm glad, I'm glad that you are continuing to feel better. Very sorry that you had to go through so much in your own journey. I guess you miss the racetracks? ;-D

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brown eyed girl

Kevin J...Featuring Carla Olson with Bob Dylan on video - Sweetheart Like You

Norm...As I thought you must have found the site before I did but because you don't have access to the magical door yet.....Also I took off time from posting many times since I began posting. To Clarify......I don't care who found the site.....I am so happy when others find sites or music and share with our hood......My point was that you and haso kept telling me about the site as if I never found it. That's about it...... ;-D

Many thanks to Canadiana Bill M and Jan H via of Dag...I have the 12" and my sleeve of Tears Are Not Enough only has the small photos and no photo of Richard Manuel. I found this recording at a Thrift Store out of town in a shopping cart outside the store with other recordings and books. The Store always leaves items out for free.

NBA Guard....Malcom Brogden....Articulate...Has an MA and gorgeous and a privileged NBA player who goes out of his way to push for social change....I've posted about him before.....Indiana Pacers "Important for us to stay outraged." Thank you for stepping up! We need another and many more sports stars and musicians who show up instead of merely tweeting in their mansions and worrying about their brands....Remember people like Mohammed Ali......This is the time and maybe our one chance when real social change can take place.....Sing it again!

The oppression of one
Is the Oppression of all

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Norm J

Subject: Little things mean a lot

On my news on yahoo this morning an article with pictures. Police officers on bicycles who were sent to guard the trump international hotel in Washington, all in a line took a knee in front of the crowd of protesters. Amid cheers from the crowd of protesters one officer gave the crowd a thumbs up while another gave a protester a hand bump. Maybe some relationship healing can start.

BEG, "Stand by me" was not the first PFC video I linked, but I don't recall how long ago it was Jan locked up the links. However for a long time before that I linked many songs. I started watching the PFC videos in 2009, just after I moved to Powell River for a few years. Mark Johnson had started that movement in 2002.

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Bill M

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Dag B.

Subject: Tears are not enough

Richard is in the photo on the sheet music.

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Kevin J

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Bonk

Hey BEG. Thanks for the shout out. That was a good nite except for me missing Paul do that song.

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brown eyed girl

Hellooooo haso.....Hello Bonk......For sure, if you're ever in TO I will probably be around but don't know about Virgil. There's always Mr. Maximus to fill in. Maybe his partner will join us too. My family and relatives don't understand this friendship but it works for all of us. The last person I met was Bonk. Mr. Maximus came with me as Virgil had to work and he really likes Paul James. Their sons know each other.

Hi Bonk. If you would have stayed longer with your friends; Paul played the best Maryanne I ever heard!!!! The whole Club went nuts. And then he came over to talk with us because they know each other. The woman on stage with Paul is his significant other. I felt a bit uncomfortable because Paul has met Mr. Maximus' partner.....so......I don't know what he thought.....I certainly wasn't the other woman. I've seen Paul's first wife at a west end Festival....maybe at the Junction.....bright red hair....I lived in that area during first term of my career.

I tried to find when I first posted about Playing For Change. I did find in 2015 a post mentioning it. I think I first saw PFC via MuchMoreMusic....music channel here. Now it could be that Norm saw it earlier but never posted anything because he doesn't have access to the magical door. I just asked for permission. I learned many years ago that if you really want something you just have to ask and let the chips fall where they may.

Yes! It really is a small world here in the GB once you really get to "know" someone. It takes a long time to really know someone and you have to have interactions off GB in "real" life. I met many people because I wanted to have a real experience and it's so great when you hang with them in their city or in the same city. Calm did not tell me until a year after we chatted and laughed with the boyzzzz in the Chat Room....She wanted to check me out I guess and make sure I wasn't just interested in getting to know her because she actually knew Robbie as a classmate. Her partner and I will be in touch soon. He's a real sweetheart. Thanks Bill M for giving condolences to him in the GB. I never even saw that she had passed here. Her partner sent an email to me but it was in my Junk Box and I rarely check there. Once I found out.....I needed time to process so didn't post anything......She was never interested in meeting any men from the GB. She would always say let them fantasize......LOL......I've always had male friends because I can talk about music and sports so.......And at the time........Never thought I'd give anyone a real chance after Mr. South America......One day someone came into this GB and said that I was only here to pick up men. It would have been great if I did meet someone but I wasn't ready to meet anyone really.....still recovering from very unhealthy relationship which almost cost me my life....Anyway, it really hurt me.......made me feel just terrible.......This GB at times is like group therapy as we project all of our stuff onto each other at times.

Racism/Classism.....You definitely learn it.....but for some reason I rejected what I learned at home. It's not that my extended family were racists; they were ignorant as they grew up in another country where everyone at that time was white and everyone was baptized with the same religion. One time Grandpa picked me up from school and I was walking with a South Asian boy. As soon as he got out of the car Grandpa made it clear that he would never be in that car again. Another time....not sure if I shared this one but it's also sooooooo vivid in my mind......even at four to eight years old....My Ma and I took the train to visit relatives from my paternal Grandma's side in Rochester, NY. First I couldn't believe that you had to put money in a slot in order to get into a washroom stall....I think Americans say bathroom, restroom more? Then we're waiting for a taxi. At first I couldn't figure out why Ma was being so picky as to the driver who would take us to our relatives. Well, she was waiting for a white driver! She didn't say a word.....but children don't need words. We watch, we listen and then store the experience in our memory......These relatives lived in the suburbs and had a large home and had adopted three children. My mother worked in a factory so we had enough money for some things but not enough to have our own home. I even had to share a bedroom with my Ma until my brother moved out......Everytime we returned to Canada it was the same hassle from Customs......They couldn't believe that my two female cousins had given me so much clothing in excellent condition. My Ma had to plead with them that she didn't buy any clothing......They were all gifts. I never felt any shame or depraved in this area but once a classmate made me feeeeeel so......When he said that I was lower-class because our house on the same street wasn't as large as his. It took every ounce of me not to retaliate....I knew I could hurt him but in those young days I didn't........... We all have a story......Some like to share and others pride themselves on their anonymity.....It's all good......I hope.......Good night. :-D

Each morning we are born again.
What we do today is what matters most.
Buddhist

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brown eyed girl

Hi Kevin......I have always appreciated and admired Mick Taylor's such fluid and tasteful guitar playing. I know you really like Jeff Beck and yes.....He's so brilliant technically....and the clip I previously posted with Jeff and Rod.....Now that's the kind of guitar playing I really like as he's really feeling it......Hence why I love Robbie's guitar playing so much as he's an emotional guitar player......Now with Mick Taylor he's technically brilliant, and his playing is like honey on whatever.......I could listen to his playing all day long. He started with The Stones at around 20.....There was a halo of a kind surrounding him.....He just glowed.....and although he admits in interviews as having had fun with the boyzzzz......I guess he had that gene.....Mick did not have it. I also think it helps if you're a control freak....Mick could do tons of coke but was not interested in H like Robbie was not interested. I had it around me once and wasn't interested in the least.

I cannot remember the year I saw Mick Taylor solo at Heaven? Yonge/Bloor in the Hudson's Bay. I remember who I was with......I do remember that the venue was very dark and the vibe was quite dark if you catch my drift....Robbie talks like that too.....must be a Grand River thing. I checked online but I couldn't find this particular venue with Mick. Could I have the wrong name? It was a Disco Club before. ;-D

"Apolitical Blues" - Little Feat with Mick Taylor - Extended Version

"Here, we have the very rare teaming of two truly amazing guitar players, Mick Taylor three years removed from The Rolling Stones and Lowell George fronting Little Feat.
Ronnie Wood was a much better than decent guitarist, but when you hear Taylor here, it's obvious what the Stones lost when he quit the band.
This also shows off, in my opinion, two of the three best slide guitar players ( in addition to Ry Cooder) of the past 40 years.
I used the audio from the album release of the shorter version of this track which you can find on the digital version of "Waiting for Columbus" up through the end of Taylor's initial solo, then we switch over to the mix from the video."

No matter how far wrong you've gone, you can always turn around.
Gil Scott-Heron

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Kevin J

BEG....one of my absolute favourite Rolling Stones songs....gorgeous all around and Mick Taylor shines....oh how they missed him. He was a mess when he left the band so I do hope you caught him when all was ok.......I still remember the late night DJ saying that Mick Taylor was on BD’s “Infidels” album just before he started paying side one late one night back in 1983.....I just knew that everything that followed was going to be ok...and it sure was. Thank you!

Norm.....you are right...things are so absurd that if the consequences weren’t so deadly it really would be funny.....I watched “Gladiator” last night and just as the Emperor realized his son Commodus was unfit to rule and would destroy the empire.....It’s a crying shame that not enough people in the US figured that out about Trump before they elected him.

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Norm J

Subject: The Haggard Boys

Good choice Evangelina. I have watched that video of the Haggard boys many times. One of my favourites.

Kevin, honestly now if you watched Blazing Saddles and the behaviour of Mel Brooks as governor, Trump's actions are the same. He should have Pres. written in big white letters on his back. Problem is, this is not funny in any way.

Pence would never make a Harvey Corman.

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brown eyed girl

Ben Harper saw them when he was 12 years old while I was a decade older.....
Someting is happening everywhere today in the world.........

We sick an' tired of your bullshit game
To die and go to Heaven inna Jesus name
We know when we understand
Almighty God is a living man
You fool some people sometimes, yeah
But you can't fool all the people all the time
So now we see the light
We gonna stand up for our rights

Get up, stand up
Stand up for your rights
Get up, stand up
Don't give up the fight
Get up, stand up
Stand up for your rights (yeah)

You Can't Blame The Youths...Featuring Peter Tosh +Rastaman Chant + Get Up Stand Up...Featuring Bob Marley - THE WAILERS / (Capitol Studios 1973)

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brown eyed girl

For Kevin J....... I saw him at a small club at Yonge and Bloor real up close and personal and at a huuuuge venue with the boyzzz. He's my other favourite guitarist. A musicians' musician!

Peter and Dag (if Jan H sent photos your way).....Could someone please tell me why my copy of Tears Are Not Enough does not have a photo of Richard Manuel on sleeve?

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brown eyed girl

For Norm. Well, I guess we'll all have to hang with you on your new boat then. Heads up....Kevin likes boxed wine and beer....not sure which kind. I will bring ginger beer and maybe......We're all different.....Bob Marley Louuu, Van, Garland, Robbie solo...... are coming as well......just sayin'. ;-D

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Ronnie Villeneuve

Subject: THE BAND Anew

THE BAND Anew. The Ultimate Peace of Body Mind & Spirit can, I believe, only come from a Brother & Sisterhood of likeminded musicians. Their experience of making harmony from a combination of musical notes & lyrics can bring about a peaceful spirit which can motivate the coming together of bodies & minds into the necessary actions of Peacemakers needed to seed a garden of lasting Peace before it can “Give Peace a Chance” to bloom. The Band Anew with its many friends can become the absolute best Canadian attempt at such a task. Be GREAT! It is so much better than just being good. Ciao Bye Ronnie V.

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Norm J

Any real president (not an imposter) would have stood before his people and condemned these resent acts by law enforcement and would be law enforcement, (a used to be cop who wasn't even allowed to arrest any one because he failed testing for non violent procedure) lets his son red neck trigger happy idiot shoot a young black man jogging 3 times.

No he thinks he's Jimmy Swaggert and stands there with a bible. His motto "do unto others before they do unto you". How can any sane person understand the thinking of that abnormal thing.

BEG you wouldn't want to see my tug now for sure. It's 3 and a half years since I sold it and retired. The company I sold it to really wanted my barge. It's a big barge that I spent a lot of money on putting in good condition. I also spent about $200,000 on my tug. They wanted me gone as I took to much business away. They had a couple of different morons operating my tug. It would come in with damage broken equipment and big dints from hitting it with the barge. Now it sits at the dock here in Port Hardy painted the most horrible color and going to rust looking very sad.

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Kevin J

“I can’t run no more/ With that lawless crowd/ While the killers in high places/ Say their prayers out loud/ But they’ve summoned, they’ve summoned up/ A thundercloud/ And they’re going to hear from me.” - Leonard Cohen

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Blackout Tuesday: To protest George Floyd's death, music industry will pause Mick Jagger, Peter Gabriel and Quincy Jones are among those vowing to pause business as usual and work for racial justice. Spotify will add a silent track to some playlists.

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brown eyed girl

Victoria Williams and Lou Reed "Crazy Mary"

I downloaded this song a long time ago but today is the first time I am watching them together. Please excuse Louuu's neon jacket here......What was he thinking here? lol......When I first posted in this GB; for some reason I always mixed up Victoria Williams with Lucinda Williams....probably because I didn't know either at the time. It was Liz? from Rochester in the GB who kept reminding me......different women!

Ok Norm....I see that the tutoring by haso and Glenn has improved your grades! I always knew you were a hard worker......but that doesn't mean I'll be working on your tugboat......Ah, I ain't gonna work on Norm's tugboat no more.....I'll just sit on the boat and watch the river flow..........

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Norm J

Subject: A little Colin James

About the best cover of Into The Mystic save for maybe Joe Cocker. Can't finish my varnishing today raining........

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Norm J

Subject: A little Colin Linden

Just finished my home work......worked all night.....I'm old.

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Bill M

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Bill M

I was at the 1985 Band show at the Diamond Club in Toronto. While I don't recall anything about Colin's group opening, I do have a clear memory of Colin sitting by himself on some steps inside the club, clearly waiting for Band guys to emerge from the dressing room. I first saw him play in the late '70s, playing acoustic blues in a folk club. By 1980, when I'd chat with him at Kop's Records (when it was at Queen and Coxwell, near where Colin lived), he was still hanging with his great mentors - David Wilcox and Amos Garrett - he was really getting into Robbie Robertson's old Toronto guitar style. He wanted to be that Robbie, he told me - and who could blame him. A mutual friend had made him a tape of Robbie with Hawkins, and also some of the other local worthies playing in his style - Fred Keeler, Bobby Starr, Larry Leishman, Domenic Troiano, et al. Nevertheless, when he first appeared with his own group, he sounded more like Elvis Costello than anyone else.

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Mike Nomad

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brown eyed girl

Whispering Pines...Colin Linden

Ok here's a shorter version Norm. Just like school; I always had to make accommodations. ;-D

THE BAND, “REMEDY”, AND “EVERYBODY SLIDES”

South at Eight, North at Nine was licensed by Deluge owner Randy Labbe to the French label Sky Ranch for European distribution. When the latter label began work on an anthology of slide guitar playing, they naturally asked Labbe for a track from Linden. Still smitten with the work of the Band, Linden chose to record an instrumental version of Robbie Robertson and Richard Manuel’s “Whispering Pines.” It had always been a track that Linden had felt a deep-seated affinity for, so much so that he and his wife had worked out a similar version that they played at their wedding.

It was always one of my favourite songs,” affirms Linden. “It has such a beautiful melody and, of course, I couldn’t sing like Richard Manuel but I thought it would be a really nice melody to play on slide.”

The Sky Ranch record was eventually titled Everybody Slides and released in 1994. Two years later, Rykodisc licensed the record for North America.

“Whispering Pines” had been recorded in 1992. A year later the reformed Band issued Jericho. It was the first album they had recorded since 1977’s Islands. It was also the first album the group had attempted without the songwriting, production and guitar playing chops of Robbie Robertson. To the surprise of many skeptics, Jericho was superb, evoking the essence of a number of roots American musics at every turn. The leadoff track on the disc and the first single to be pulled from the album was Linden’s “Remedy.” The song received substantial radio play and ended up reaching #6 on the Canadian CAR listings, providing the Band with their highest chart placement ever.

We are all sleepwalkers
We only see the things
We want to see
We dream in colours,bpaint each other
Black and White

Dream Walker

haso...I will respond later tonight or tomorrow. Hugs..... :-D

I just realized didn't Lil used to end her posts to a certain someone with hugs? If so, I'm not copying Lil. I'm the hugging type. Also, Critter and I will be in touch soon. Hopefully he has contacted you as I lost many emails when I bought my first laptop. Perfect timing too as educators received a freebie....Beats Headphones.

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JQ

Hey Bob - welcome back, I hope you stick. How’s RoseAnn been keeping?

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Norm J

Subject: Over Whelming

Beg!!! Have a heart will you.....I'm not reading all that. This is too much home work yer giving.

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brown eyed girl

LEVON, RICK, GARTH & “WHEN THE SPIRIT COMES”

"Fate being what it is, as Linden and Whynot were putting the finishing touches on the Immortals album, the group was booked to open up for the reconstituted Band at the Diamond Club in Toronto. That night Linden got a chance to meet three of the original members, Rick Danko, Garth Hudson and Levon Helm. In the summer of 1987, Linden met Danko once again at the Edmonton Folk Festival.

“At that point I was listening to nothing but the Band’s music,” attests Linden. “I was just completely entrenched in what they were doing. I was getting ready to do When the Spirit Comes and I said to Rick, ‘Do you ever work on other people’s records?’ He said, ‘Well, you know sometimes I do.’ He was a little tentative about it because he thought I meant playing bass. Then he said, ‘But I love to sing on my friend’s records.’ I said, ‘Well do you think when we get time to make a record, could I send you something?’ He said, ‘Absolutely!’”

Not one to let such an opportunity pass by, shortly thereafter, Linden sent some tapes to Danko’s home in Woodstock. As luck would have it, Danko fortuitously had a gig scheduled in Toronto right when Colin was getting ready to do over dubs on the When the Spirit Comes LP.

Danko and Linden immediately clicked in the studio, the former ending up singing backup vocals on three songs that made the original album, “Thy Will Be Done,” “I Know Her” and “When the Spirit Comes,” plus two outtakes that are available on the present CD edition of the album, “Chest Fever” and “Put it in the Ground.”

As Linden mentions in his brief notes on the When the Spirit Comes CD, the main guitar figure of the title song owes a lot to Son House. Danko provides harmony throughout the performance and takes a lead vocal turn on verse three. Two weeks later, Linden headed down to Woodstock to get Garth Hudson to overdub some of his trademark organ filigree. The net effect makes the track sound like some long lost Band-outtake. While various alternative radio outlets picked up on the wondrous beauty of “When the Spirit Comes,” “Miles Away from You” was a modest hit on the rock charts. Meanwhile, the album received staggering good reviews in the rock press and Colin Linden’s solo career began to move into ascendancy.

The difference between the Immortals album and When the Spirit Comes was like night and day. While the former felt somewhat forced, the latter bespoke of an aesthetic that was much more grounded in roots American musics filtered through several years of musical maturity developed night after night, gig after gig. “A lot of it was because I realized I don’t sound good glossy,” reflects Linden. “It’s not flattering to what I do. It’s like wearing a white suit for me. That was something that John Whynot and I, when we made When the Spirit Comes, were really conscious of. I remember John and I talking about it. We said, ‘Let’s make a record like a cedar box, not like a crystal chamber.’ That’s exactly what we thought of and, in a lot of ways, it was the basis of the production style that both us have mined to a large degree since.”

RICHARD BELL, JOHN DYMOND, PRODUCING ALBUMS, & THE BRUCE COCKBURN BAND

When the Spirit Comes was released by A & M in 1987. That same year Linden signed a publishing deal with Warner Chappell and he began to do a lot more producing for the likes of Mendelson Joe, Morgan Davis, Jackson Delta and Hans Thessink. In November 1989 John Whynot elected to move to California. Coincidentally, a month later keyboardist Richard Bell moved to Toronto, more than ably filling the vacancy left in Linden’s band by the departure of Whynot. A former member of Ronnie Hawkins’ Hawks, Bell had also played in Joplin’s Full Tilt Boogie Band and would soon join a late period edition of the Band. Aesthetically in the same head space as Linden, eleven years later he is still a vital cog on Linden’s records and in live gigs.

With Bell playing the 88’s, Linden became much more interested in playing live and began once more working a lot of blues tunes into his set. “I felt with Richard in the band,” confirms Linden, “immediately there was this new element that really revitalized things.”

Linden seemed bolstered on all fronts and When the Spirit Comes represented a quantum leap in Linden’s songwriting and singing skills. In both departments, Bruce Cockburn seems to have had a substantial influence. While Cockburn’s influence rears its head at a number of points, it is most pronounced on “Two Halves of a Whole,” “There Goes the Neighborhood” and the bonus CD track “I Was in Chains.”

In 1991, as Linden’s solo and production careers moved into full swing, he received a phone call from Bruce Cockburn asking him if he wanted to play in his band. “That really changed my life in a gigantic way. I was hugely honoured,” Linden declares. Cockburn next asked Linden who else he would like in the band and, of course, Colin suggested Richard Bell and bassist John Dymond, both of whom were now part of his regular band. Linden would go on to work the road with Cockburn for the next three-and-a-half years, playing guitar on two albums, before becoming the veteran singer-songwriter’s co-producer, working behind the board on Cockburn’s subsequent three records, The Charity of Night, You Pay Your Money and You Take Your Chance and Breakfast in New Orleans, Dinner in Timbuktu.

THE BAND, “REMEDY”, AND “EVERYBODY SLIDES”

South at Eight, North at Nine was licensed by Deluge owner Randy Labbe to the French label Sky Ranch for European distribution. When the latter label began work on an anthology of slide guitar playing, they naturally asked Labbe for a track from Linden. Still smitten with the work of the Band, Linden chose to record an instrumental version of Robbie Robertson and Richard Manuel’s “Whispering Pines.” It had always been a track that Linden had felt a deep-seated affinity for, so much so that he and his wife had worked out a similar version that they played at their wedding.

It was always one of my favourite songs,” affirms Linden. “It has such a beautiful melody and, of course, I couldn’t sing like Richard Manuel but I thought it would be a really nice melody to play on slide.”

The Sky Ranch record was eventually titled Everybody Slides and released in 1994. Two years later, Rykodisc licensed the record for North America.

“Whispering Pines” had been recorded in 1992. A year later the reformed Band issued Jericho. It was the first album they had recorded since 1977’s Islands. It was also the first album the group had attempted without the songwriting, production and guitar playing chops of Robbie Robertson. To the surprise of many skeptics, Jericho was superb, evoking the essence of a number of roots American musics at every turn. The leadoff track on the disc and the first single to be pulled from the album was Linden’s “Remedy.” The song received substantial radio play and ended up reaching #6 on the Canadian CAR listings, providing the Band with their highest chart placement ever.

I rebel. Therefore we exist.
Albert Camus

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brown eyed girl

Last 5 on Shuffle

Paul Simon and James Taylor...Wonderful World
Annie Lennox with Eurythmics...When Tomorrow Comes (one more week of Quarantine)
Kate Bush...Hounds of Love
Etta James...I'd Rather Go Blind
Tony Joe White...Did Someone Make A Fool Out Of You

Tony Joe White & Eric Clapton - "Did Somebody Make A Fool Out Of You" from TJW's album Uncovered (2009). "Clapton's voice remains characteristically modest on this song yet his guitar work--measured and full of emotion--proves what you don't play is as important as what you do play." Remind you of another guitar player? ;-D

bob w....1...2....3...4....5....6....7....8....9....10....

Virgil and I would like to thank you very much for posting about Sunday's weekly Arts Show at 9:00 AM on CBS. We watch it religiously.

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Bill M

Kevin J: David wouldn't have left it behind - so we can be sure that the soundtrack improved markedly with his arrival.

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Kevin J

Nice thoughts on David P........Thank you, Bob W and really good to see your name on the screen as well.......I like to think that the “last 5” and other variations on recently enjoyed music that many of us post here quite regularly are a tribute of sorts to David P.......and I sure hope whoever got his record collection has treated it well.

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Bill M

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bob w.

Thinking of David today on what would have been his 70th birthday. You are missed, old friend.

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Peter V

Subject: 52 Years (to the tune of Bob Marley's 400 Years)

It was only a week or so ago that I reviewed Medium Cool from 1969 (Re-linked above). That has real footage of the 1968 demonstrations in Chicago mixed in with the story. That all went down FIFTY-TWO years ago. And nothing has changed. Watching the African-American reporter being arrested, I recalled in Medium Cool, the police told the NBC camera truck to go. Waited. Then charged the peaceful demonstrators with truncheons.

When they attacked demonstrators in the park, we hear this on the film:

"Look out, Haskell! This is real!"

Haskell Wexler was filming the real events in the park and the warning was genuine.

Having said that, I thought the demonstrations in London and Berlin on last night's news veered towards "recreational demos" as the USA is not going to take a blind bit of notice of what anyone else says, because they haven't in fifty-two years.

A few years back if anyone had said the world would be suffering Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump and Boris Johnson simultaneously I would have fallen over laughing in disbelief.

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Kevin J

........and...and....just looked this up - the Mighty New York Times described the film back in 2007 as "a thoroughly reprehensible, satisfyingly violent entertainment about men and guns and things that go boom."......Has there ever been a more perfect description of a “B movie” ?

.....and in unrelated news...to do with Canada’s once mighty newspaper ...thank you, Bill M.....that does explain some things.

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haso

Subject: racism

Angelina: let it roll, "man". I'm glad Norm isn't "scared" anymore. I just find you, like many of the char-acters (to quote M. Rebenack) here, fascinating. And if my spouse and I ever find our way to Toronto, hope to meet up w/ you.

As far as PfC, doesn't matter to me how you found it, just glad you did; me too: as I think I related here once, it was my fundamentalist, mega-church sister-in-law, that 1st sent PfC to our email. A bit surprising, in retrospect. Probably before I found the GB. I know I spent a good year or 2 just reading every little thing Jan has in the Library before I clicked on the GB. And probably mixed in the Davis/LH book and Hoskyns prior to the GB as well.

Anyway, the PfC version of W/NMT is the one that includes Bono, Marley, my favorite PfC guy (Jason Tamba) and particularly the mixed (Catholic/Protestant) youth choir from Omagh, No. Ireland.

Agree completely on Hendrix/Watchtower.

I'll let Glenn speak for himself, as we've come to communicate off GB-line. Thanks, tangentially, to comments from Jeff Alexander quite a while back, Glenn and I found that we'd attended the same, very small college north of St. Louis, Mo. and in fact that he had worked there when my brother and sister-in-law did, possibly knew my parents and had lived in a rental house on the outskirts of the campus that a high school friend of mine had earlier in the mid '70's. I guess it shows the unique small world that is the GB... now I read from an instructor (of some note) from Toronto, a radio DJ from the same, a renaissance man from southern England, and a retired tugboat captain (for god's sakes).

I so appreciate your commentary on racism. Nothing wrong w/ some passion or "wearing [stuff] on your sleeve". Although generally Barack was just called our 1st Black President, he in fact was bi-racial, a term fairly frequently used here in the States. Reading your lines, I felt like I was back on Facetime w/ our son from about 2 hours before, when he just went OFF on our current "leaders" (were that they actually were). Also well-justified. My grandkids are bi-racial and we couldn't be happier that he and his Nigerian-American wife (if one has to characterize) celebrated 11 years of marriage yesterday. I find it interesting that even former NYPD Commissioner Bratton refers now to the original sin of "America" and it's 400-year history. About Goddamn time, w/ only one planet to live on, that this species figure out how to live.

Sleep well, hugs back to you.

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Bill M

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brown eyed girl

Jimmy Cliff...Many Rivers To Cross

Thank you Norm! I taught You Can Get It by Jimmy Cliff to the kidzzzz. They enjoyed the song so much that they inspired me to organize a school concert JK-G6 called POSITIVE VIBRATIONS.
The very first school I attended in Toronto....The Harder They Come featuring Jimmy Cliff was shown in one of my Sociology classes. One summer I ended up seeing Jimmy Cliff by Lake Ontario where I would also see Peter Tosh solo as well. Always great shows as they feel what they are singing about. Definitely some advantages to being of a certain vintage as Bumbles would say.

Just for today
I will let go of anger
Just for today, I will let go of worry
Just for today
I earn my living honestly
I show gratitude to all living things

Unknown

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Norm J

Subject: The Cold Light of Day

I just finished supper Kevin and the realization over and over again turns your stomach. Just remember if you are a black man below that Mason - Dixon line.....don't go jogging.

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brown eyed girl

Bob Marley Live 80...Last Year...HD "No Woman No Cry - Zion Train"

Featuring American Al Anderson on guitar

I found Bob Marley and The Wailers on my own just by switching on the TV the very first year I was in Toronto to attend school. I think the very first song I heard was Trench Town Rock. If some of my friends did not know the music of The Band; they all knew Marley's music. Even Virgil is a fan. The former jazz musician turned Engineer really disliked reggae. However, he respected that reggae hit me deeply and because I wouldn't back down to his elitism; he gave me a pass. ;-D

Hi Kevin. I thought I'd lighten things up with that review. I was at that The Band Tribute with Virgil on the second night with Maud performing. I asked Virgil if he could remember the show as he clearly remembers that he really disliked the Tribute to Rick Danko in Simcoe.....He couldn't remember TLW Tribute really well but he thought in general it was ok. Mr. Maximus always really enjoyed The Band related shows much more so whenever he was available with his partner or solo....

The Guest House

This being human is a guest house
Every morning a new arrival.

A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.

Welcome and entertain them all
Even if they're a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of its furniture.

Still, treat each guest honourably.
S/he may be clearing you
out for some new delight.

The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

Say I Am You: Poetry Interspersed with Stories of Rumi and Shams
Translated by John Mayne and Coleman Barks, Maypop
1994

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Kevin J

Speaking of fools..... no bigger one than Brad Wheeler.....an embarrassment to the once great Globe and Mail......his comments on Tom Wilson are just a slice of how clueless he almost always is.

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brown eyed girl

Soulful Waltz tribute didn't quite rock
BRAD WHEELER
PUBLISHED NOVEMBER 25, 2006

We Shall Be Released:

"Colin Linden of Blackie and the Rodeo Kings laid it out clear and early, declaring at the outset that the evening's concert was not about recreating anything, but about playing the music that they loved. The audience had just viewed clips on a pair of side-stage television monitors of The Last Waltz, Martin Scorsese's documentary of The Band's lavish farewell at San Francisco's Winterland Ballroom, a concert of hyped significance that was held on America's Thanksgiving Day in 1976 -- three decades earlier. The Band, a curious outfit of four Canadians and one American who backed Ronnie Hawkins and Bob Dylan and invented roots-rock, had decided after 16 years of playing dive-bars and music halls to pull themselves off the road. The Winterland show was a bountiful sendoff that involved chandeliers, ballroom dancing and 220 turkeys at the front of the house, with endless lines of cocaine out back. "Rock 'n' roll's last supper," according to the man who threw the party, legendary promoter Bill Graham.

To mark the 30th anniversary of that performance, Linden and his Rodeo King associates Tom Wilson and Stephen Fearing invited a cast of fellow Canadian musicians to Glenn Gould Studio, where a pair of recorded-for-radio concerts (Wednesday and Thursday) loosely followed the Winterland program (musically, mind you -- there was no buffet).

The Rodeo Kings were the hub group, just as The Band was 30 years before. Were the vocal harmonies as affecting as the Band's? Of course not, but they were more than serviceable. Keyboardist John Whynot, drummer Bryan Owings, bassist John Dymond and a horn section complemented the trio. Special guests came and went, usually staying for one song at a time. So after a joyous version of Life Is a Carnival and a reading of Neil Young's Helpless by Ichabod Crane doppelganger Fearing, Toronto blues-romantic Paul Reddick came onboard for Mystery Train, reprising the Winterland role of singer/mouth-harpist Paul Butterfield. The rockabilly was indecisive, no fault of Reddick. Confident Dione Taylor, a Saskatchewan pastor's soulful daughter, was the correct choice to sing The Weight.

The overarching mood of the show was troublingly commemorative. The performance was not a rock 'n' roll concert as much as it was a celebration and recording of one. Wilson's heroic aping of Van Morrison's winning Caravan was crowd-pleasing, yet bothersome. Wilson was too wide-eyed, too pleased, too relieved that he had made it to a place anywhere near Morrison. A crowd member yelling out "Van the man!" was not so much wishful thinking as it was near-sighted misunderstanding.

The required swagger was supplied by singer-songwriter Kathleen Edwards, who surprised with fiddling (when it was audible; sound levels over the evening were not precise) and a commanding presence. Before singing hillbilly-sweet on Evangeline, she instructed guitarist Linden to slow down as he counted in the rhythm. Edwards seemed undaunted, as did Luke Doucet on the romping jaunt of Ophelia, when he traded guitar riffs on equal footing with Linden, no slouch.

The night's blue ribbon, though, went to the only man who was actually at Winterland all those years ago. Garth Hudson, a puzzling character with an obtrusive white beard of cotton candy, sat in for a good chunk of the second set, starting with a jazzy piano soliloquy and ending a few songs later on the voluminous encore number Chest Fever, with its phantom-of-the cathedral organ intro. Thing is, with one Hudson you get the other; the off-Broadway emoting of wheelchair-bound wife Maud hijacked It Makes No Difference, the Band's harmony showcase and most stunning mourn.

Nepotism, then. The Band -- whose fathers were blues, country, R&B, rockabilly, and black and white gospel -- sired an extended musical brood, and some of the offspring were present to pay tribute at Glenn Gould. It was a thoughtful gesture, though issue could be taken with the patriotic subtext.

The notion that The Band belongs to Canada is nationalistic delusion. They cut their teeth on Toronto's Yonge Street, but all their Big Moments were south of the border. They played American music; they fell in love with the country; they wrote The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down.

Canadians can love The Band, but they can't have them, no matter how many parties they throw in the group's honour.

Highlights of We Shall Be Released air this afternoon on CBC Radio One (1 o'clock ET) and tomorrow on CBC Radio Two (2 p.m.) and CBC Radio One (8 p.m.).

Nico and the Velvet Underground
Femme Fatale

Please don't confront me with my failures
I have not forgotten them

Nico from the VU

Entered at Mon Jun 1 02:31:37 CEST 2020 from (24.114.81.5)

Kevin J

“How many deaths will it take 'til he knows/ That too many people have died?”

.....for many.....no amount would matter....and don’t think for a minute that ignorant fools like Tiger Woods will spend one second thinking about George Floyd the next time they yuck it up and tee it up with the county’s most dangerous racist..... they won’t and nothing will change for the better.

Oh....the happier days of the Trump reign when children at the border were being separated from their parents and PUT IN CAGES..... but, hey , the stock market was at record numbers...and no one had yet imagined that 100,000 deaths could be spun into a “good news” story by Fox News....”American Exceptionalism” anybody?

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